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[01:17:17] <beoba> hey, how do i get the bot to ignore unknown commands rather than spam the channel every time someone says ".." (prefix is set to ".")
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[01:30:33] <Hagabard> well
[01:30:36] <Hagabard> for starters
[01:30:42] <Hagabard> you could not have it report dumb errors to channel
[01:31:19] <Hagabard> @config supybot.reply.error.inPrivate
[01:31:20] <supybot> Hagabard: False
[01:33:57] <Hagabard> but then again
[01:34:03] <Hagabard> he'd have to be here to read that
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[01:45:41] <aa_> jemfinch: pong
[01:53:55] <beoba> pester pester: anyone have any idea for disabling the "THATS AN UNKNOWN COMMAND" spam?
[01:54:25] <supybot> <Strike> @config search whenError
[01:54:26] <supybot> <supybot> Strike: There were no matching configuration variables.
[01:54:29] <supybot> <Strike> @config search error
[01:54:30] <supybot> <supybot> Strike: supybot.reply.error, supybot.reply.error.detailed, supybot.reply.error.inPrivate, supybot.reply.error.withNotice, supybot.reply.error.noCapability, and supybot.replies.error
[01:54:40] <supybot> <Strike> @config help supybot.reply.error.withNotice
[01:54:42] <supybot> <supybot> Strike: Determines whether the bot will send error messages to users via NOTICE instead of PRIVMSG. You might want to do this so users can ignore NOTICEs from the bot and not have to see error messages; or you might want to use it in combination with supybot.reply.errorInPrivate so private errors don't open a query window in most IRC clients.  (Current value: False)
[01:54:46] <supybot> <Strike> @config help supybot.reply.error.inPrivate
[01:54:48] <supybot> <supybot> Strike: Determines whether the bot will send error messages to users in private. You might want to do this in order to keep channel traffic to minimum. This can be used in combination with supybot.reply.error.withNotice.  (Current value: False)
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[01:55:24] <supybot> <Strike> I'd set both of them, it makes things nice
[01:59:45] <beoba> but it'd be great if it just ignored unknown commands completely
[02:00:54] <supybot> <Strike> so instead of knowing if the bot isn't responding at all you just assume you're entering in the command wrong?
[02:01:12] <jamessan> @config search whennotcommand
[02:01:13] <supybot> jamessan: supybot.reply.whenNotCommand
[02:01:16] <jamessan> done
[02:01:19] <jamessan> set that to false
[02:01:27] <supybot> <Strike> yeah but I hate that setting and think it's stupid :p
[02:01:48] <supybot> <Strike> I mean it's useful for some plugins :)  but in general people are looking for a specific response when they ask the bot something
[02:02:03] <supybot> <Strike> so to just not respond or give guidance when they ask incorrectly is just stupid in my opinion
[02:02:47] <jamessan> yeah, but that's what he wants
[02:03:15] <supybot> <Strike> just voicing my opinion :)
[02:07:09] <beoba> the prefix is set to .
[02:07:15] <beoba> so .. = HI IM A FUCKING BOT
[02:07:24] <jamessan> yeah, and?
[02:07:46] <jamessan> you can change the prefix if it's inconvenient
[02:07:58] <supybot> <Strike> yeah, . is a horrible choice
[02:08:07] <beoba> the other primaries are filled by other ones :o
[02:08:14] <beoba> ! is channel services, @ is another bot
[02:08:15] <jamessan> you have that many bots?
[02:08:16] <supybot> <Strike> consolidate bots
[02:08:27] <beoba> we fuck around with them a lot
[02:08:27] <wols_> the bot unknown command whine is just as annoying as . is horribl
[02:08:28] <wols_> e
[02:08:30] <supybot> <Strike> so use ~
[02:08:33] <beoba> we have this one ugly_ which is awesome
[02:08:34] <jamessan> $, %, ^, *, lots of other choices
[02:08:43] <aa_> I like ?
[02:08:48] <aa_> like asking a question
[02:09:11] <supybot> <Strike> aa_: I don't ask my bot to do stuff, I *TELL* my bot to do stuff
[02:09:19] <beoba> hah
[02:09:44] <aa_> strike: haha! you know your supy better than I knw mine :D
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[04:32:43] <jemfinch> jamessan: let me think for a bit about your question...
[04:38:58] <jemfinch> jamessan: your first commit to the cvs repository was March 24, 2003.
[04:39:32] <supybot> <Strike|laptop> coming up on 3 years :o
[04:39:47] <jemfinch> you committed for a few weeks, then stopped until august, and you've committed consistently since then.
[04:40:03] <Hagabard> hm
[04:40:07] <jemfinch> @praise cvs log
[04:40:08] * supybot pats cvs log on the back
[04:40:13] * jemfinch needs to make sure SDF supports that.
[04:40:15] <Hagabard> i never committed anything
[04:40:29] <Hagabard> but i wonder how long i've been using supy.  hmm.
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[05:03:56] <jamessan> jemfinch: yeah, I did the same thing a couple minutes after I asked you
[05:04:12] <jamessan> now I just need to think about how to describe my supybot work on my resume
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[05:37:31] <beoba> .unix spell waht
[05:37:40] <beoba> .spell waht
[05:37:45] <beoba> oops
[05:37:46] <beoba> right
[05:37:47] <beoba> @spell waht
[05:37:50] <supybot> beoba: what
[05:38:00] <beoba> @unix spell wsdfk
[05:38:03] <supybot> beoba: Error: The spell command timed out.
[05:38:06] <beoba> @unix spell wsdfk
[05:38:07] <supybot> beoba: Possible spellings for "wsdfk": SD, SF, SK, sf, SWAK, Edik, SDI, Stark, Stefa, stack, staff, stake, stark, steak, stick, stiff, stock, stoke, stork, stuck, stuff, JFK, SPF, stalk, stank, stink, stunk, Swift, Swink, swank, swift, sift, soft, Sufi, sack, safe, seek, sick, soak, sock, sofa, suck, Salk, Sask, sank, sedge, sedgy, silk, sink, sulk, sunk, adj, stifle, stag, AFDC, DJ, SJ, (1 more message)
[05:38:33] <beoba> @config search spell
[05:38:34] <supybot> beoba: supybot.commands.defaultPlugins.spell, supybot.plugins.Filter.spellit, supybot.plugins.Filter.spellit.replaceLetters, supybot.plugins.Filter.spellit.replacePunctuation, supybot.plugins.Filter.spellit.replaceNumbers, supybot.plugins.Unix.spell, and supybot.plugins.Unix.spell.command
[05:38:42] <beoba> @config plugins.unix.spell.command
[05:38:42] <supybot> beoba: /usr/bin/aspell
[05:38:49] <beoba> same for me..
[05:38:54] <beoba> *groan*
[05:42:18] <jemfinch> jamessan: describe it however it looks best, I'll support you :)
[05:45:36] <jamessan> jemfinch: well, I don't know how to describe it best
[05:47:15] <jamessan> remember, I'm not the descriptive type person
[06:24:31] <jemfinch> jamessan: what job are you applying for?
[06:25:15] <jemfinch> jamessan: whatever aspects of your work on Supybot can most easily be spun to your advantage in whatever job you're applying for, put those down.
[06:25:30] <jemfinch> you've done maintenance programming, documentation, redesign, plugin authoring, training, etc.
[06:31:46] <Inc> damn usc lost
[06:32:08] <Inc> jemfinch, how do you make pool1366.cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net
[06:32:14] <Inc> that person get voiced
[06:32:18] <Inc> that's there hostmask
[06:32:23] <Inc> but the pool part changes
[06:32:27] <Inc> so how do I do that?
[06:32:56] <jemfinch> Inc: the answer is easily found either in RFC 2812, or in your wallet (for my consulting fees :-P)
[06:33:13] <Inc> lol
[06:33:16] <Inc> no seriously
[06:33:26] <Inc> is it !channel capability add *!* at pool1366 dot cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net
[06:33:28] <Inc> err
[06:33:35] <Inc> wait wait
[06:33:38] <Inc> no !hostmask add pool1366.cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net
[06:33:46] <Inc> but the passwword after the hostmask
[06:34:54] <jemfinch> Inc: I was being serious :)
[06:35:16] <Inc> for a simple question of how do add a hostmask bleh
[06:35:49] * Inc bugs jamessan
[06:36:00] <Inc> or stram
[06:36:25] <Inc> jemfinch, basically whats the wild card supposed to be in there or what's the thing to replace to poool part
[06:36:56] <jemfinch> Inc: RFC 2812.  You can read, right?
[06:37:08] <Inc> rfc 2812?
[06:37:10] <Inc> that's that
[06:37:18] <jamessan> @google lucky rfc 2812
[06:37:19] <jemfinch> yup.  All your answers are there.
[06:37:21] <supybot> jamessan: http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2812.html
[06:37:27] <Inc> ah
[06:38:08] <jamessan> jemfinch: dev job.  the current one I'm looking into would be working on a netlines parser for a company that does circuit simulation
[06:38:18] <jemfinch> netlines?
[06:39:10] <jamessan> pretty sure that's what the guy said
[06:39:45] <jemfinch> what is it?
[06:39:52] <Inc> ahah so it's a *
[06:40:05] <jemfinch> certainly not the "8:jemfinch," strings, right?
[06:40:23] <jemfinch> @len foo
[06:40:23] <supybot> jemfinch: 3
[06:40:55] <jemfinch> @alias add netstring "format join \"\" [len $1] : $1 ,"
[06:40:56] <supybot> jemfinch: The operation succeeded.
[06:40:59] <jemfinch> @netstring jemfinch
[06:41:00] <supybot> jemfinch: 8:jemfinch,
[06:41:03] <jemfinch> @netstring foo bar
[06:41:05] <supybot> jemfinch: 7:foo bar,
[06:41:07] <jamessan> I'm going to be talking to him more about it, but I just want this stuff for my resume in general
[06:41:21] <jemfinch> ok.  Then I'd list all the things I noted :)
[06:41:39] <jemfinch> user/developer training and support, design, coding, etc.
[06:46:13] <Inc> 23:46 -moo0:#arcane-dev- Inc: Error: "shutdown" is not a valid command.
[06:46:41] <jamessan> and?
[06:46:53] <Inc> isn't shutdown to turn it off
[06:46:56] <Inc> or its it quit
[06:46:58] <Inc> I forget
[06:47:13] <jamessan> obviously it isn't shutdown
[06:48:42] <beoba> quit works
[06:51:29] <Inc> ok
[06:53:18] <Inc> quick question since my http is down for some reason.
[06:53:25] <Inc> what's the export python path
[06:53:31] <Inc> it's in the install doc at supybot.com
[06:53:58] <jamessan> and in the install doc on your system
[06:55:54] <jamessan> jemfinch: ah, I think it was netlists he was talking about. that makes a lot more sense
[06:57:45] <jemfinch> what are netlists?
[06:58:02] <jemfinch> Inc: if you know what document it's in, why are you asking us?
[06:58:16] <jemfinch> why do you respect our time so little?
[06:58:57] <Inc> I do
[06:59:01] <Inc> respect your time
[06:59:40] <jamessan> jemfinch: a way of describing circuit layout
[07:01:39] <jemfinch> ah.
[07:01:54] <jemfinch> Inc: if you respected our time, you wouldn't ask us questions when you know where to look for the answer.
[07:03:35] <jemfinch> Inc: We're often willing to help people /pro bono/ when they respect our time, but when a user consistently disrespects our time by asking questions that are easily answered by Google or by references we refer him to, or even (astoundingly) by references which he already knows exist and answer his question, we can say very little more than: pay our consulting fee if you want answers.
[07:07:01] <jemfinch> @relay nicks
[07:07:03] <supybot> jemfinch: oftc (4): @Strike, @supybot, +sifu, DannyB; (not in #supybot on gimp)
[07:07:05] <jemfinch> @seen Grantbow
[07:07:05] <supybot> jemfinch: Grantbow was last seen in #supybot 43 weeks, 0 days, 9 hours, 14 minutes, and 9 seconds ago: <Grantbow> somone from telus.net was running a bot in here with almost my name?  that's odd.
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[07:20:08] <Inc> jemfinch, realized that I just stated avove http was down.
[07:20:15] <Inc> and if it was up I'd go get it myself
[07:20:22] <Inc> if you don't want to it's fine
[07:28:41] <Inc> question there is one serious problem I having everytime I tend to restart the bot
[07:28:47] <Inc> it loses uers
[07:30:44] <jamessan> then you've done something wrong because there's no reason that it would just randomly lose users.
[07:31:34] <Inc> hmmm
[07:31:34] <Inc> ok
[07:31:41] <Inc> well another problem
[07:32:12] <Inc> ok I have the guy "harman" register .
[07:32:24] <Inc> he registers I do
[07:32:24] <Inc> 00:30 <Inc> !channel capability add harman voice
[07:32:25] <Inc> 00:30 -moo0:#arcane-dev- Inc: The operation succeeded.
[07:32:45] <Inc> he cycles still no voice
[07:33:45] <jamessan> http://supybot.com/documentation/plugins/automode for when you figure out how to get to a web page
[07:33:46] <supybot> Title: AutoMode Supybot Website (at supybot.com)
[07:33:57] <Inc> ic
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[07:35:24] <Inc> the problem I have had with automode
[07:35:38] <Inc> is that the people who aren't registered get deoped
[07:35:40] <Inc> and stuff
[07:36:22] <jamessan> *shrug* I don't use it
[07:36:48] <Inc> yeh well there's no alternative to auto voicing of my users
[07:36:56] <Inc> who register
[07:37:08] <jamessan> sure there is. write your own plugin
[07:37:29] <Inc> neh
[07:37:50] <Inc> but jamessan the problem I'm having is it works with all other users but this dial up user
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[07:40:13] <Inc> ok so the person does
[07:40:27] <Inc>  !hostmask add *!* at * dot cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net yourpassword
[07:40:37] <Inc> it says *!* at * dot cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net
[07:40:41] <Inc> error *!* at * dot cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net
[07:40:48] <jamessan> @help hostmask add
[07:40:48] <supybot> jamessan: (hostmask add [<name>] [<hostmask>] [<password>]) -- Adds the hostmask <hostmask> to the user specified by <name>. The <password> may only be required if the user is not recognized by hostmask. If you include the <password> parameter, this message must be sent to the bot privately (not on a channel). <password> is also not required if an owner user is giving the command on (1 more message)
[07:40:51] <jamessan> read the help
[07:40:54] <Inc> oh
[07:40:55] <jamessan> you're using it wrong
[07:40:56] <Inc> ok
[07:41:01] <Inc> yeh I forgot name
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[07:41:53] <Inc> 00:41 <Inc> !hostmask add harman *!* at * dot cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net
[07:41:54] <Inc> 00:41 -moo0:#arcane-dev- Inc: Error: *!* at * dot cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net
[07:42:48] <jamessan> are you going to paste the rest?
[07:43:45] <Inc> that's all there was
[07:45:05] <Inc> jamessan, ?
[07:45:06] <jamessan> I find that unlikely
[07:45:27] <Inc> I'm serious
[07:45:33] <Inc> I can give you an example
[07:45:44] <Inc> you want to join like #Supybot111399284 or something
[07:45:45] <jamessan> the bot recognizes you as the owner?
[07:45:47] <Inc> and I can show you?
[07:45:57] <Inc> jamessan, yup
[07:46:09] <jamessan> %hostmask add jamessan *!* at * dot cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net
[07:46:10] <j4mesbot> jamessan: The operation succeeded.
[07:46:17] <jamessan> like I said, I find that unlikely
[07:46:19] <Inc> odd
[07:46:23] <jamessan> %hostmask remove jamessan *!* at * dot cvx4-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net
[07:46:23] <Inc> look let me show you
[07:46:24] <j4mesbot> jamessan: Error: That operation cannot be done in a channel.
[07:47:32] <jamessan> #supybot-bots
[07:47:52] <Inc> I'm there
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[09:19:37] <mesut> hi all
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[15:55:29] <Bklyn> How can I see which plugin a command is being handled by?
[15:55:40] <Bklyn> sort of like "which" at a shell prompt
[15:56:10] <jamessan> the plugin command
[15:56:44] <Bklyn> hrm, ok I guess the module that implements that isn't loaded
[15:57:05] <Bklyn> 09:56 <b0t> Error: "plugin" is not a valid command.
[15:57:14] <TFKyle> its in the Plugin plugin
[15:57:36] * Bklyn thinks he's stumbled into an Abbott and Costello routine
[15:57:49] <jamessan> heh
[15:58:02] <Bklyn> hm, ok but what if something is (say) a MoobotFactoid?
[15:58:46] <jamessan> then it's not a command
[16:00:50] <Bklyn> right
[16:01:13] <Bklyn> but there's no way to know where an arbitrary !foo is implemented then
[16:01:30] <jamessan> yes, there is
[16:01:33] <Bklyn> I guess you can do it by process of elimination, plugin foo and if that fails its probably a factoid
[16:01:35] <jamessan> !plugin foo
[16:01:41] <Bklyn> but if foo is a factoid
[16:01:43] <jamessan> if that says the command doesn't exist, then it must be a factoid
[16:01:47] <Bklyn> right
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[21:37:37] <chadash> ImportError: No module named supybot ????
[21:38:36] <jamessan> you have a local install and didn't set your PYTHONPATH like INSTALL tells you to
[21:44:21] <chadash> jamessan, close,...;)  The install was assuming a path that didn't exist and like an idiot I was blindly following w/o having first confirmed path structure...but your response solved it all for me...so far, thanks! ;)
[21:46:45] <chadash> okie!  in the wizard it's asking where I want to put directories...are these absolute paths or relative?  (i.e. do I need to specify '/home/<username>/...' in the path being asked for?)
[21:47:40] <supybot> <Strike|work> absolute paths work, otherwise it'll be relative to the working directory of the bot
[21:48:09] <supybot> <Strike|work> so if you're always going to start it from the same spot, relative ones are fine, but if you want to make sure the logs are always in the same spot no matter where you start the bot from, use absolute paths
[21:48:26] <chadash> thanks
[21:49:06] <supybot> <Strike|work> no problem :)
[22:00:23] <chadash> okay, stuck in the wizard at What plugin would you like to look at?....how do I move on?
[22:04:07] * chadash feels trapped
[22:04:36] <supybot> <Strike|work> did you tell it you wanted to load a plugin?
[22:05:25] <chadash> I've loaded several
[22:05:44] <chadash> but now it's sitting at its list...
[22:06:04] <chadash> I've loaded all the ones I was interested in
[22:06:18] <chadash> if you say no, the plugin still displays in the list
[22:06:38] <chadash> ...so I guess unles I load 'em all I'm gonna stay here awhile, eh?
[22:07:46] <chadash> trying to put any other sort of input in results in a 'Sorry, that response was not an option.' message
[22:08:18] <chadash> DOH!
[22:08:20] <chadash> nm
[22:08:26] * chadash feels very small
[22:15:53] <supybot> <Strike|work> heh, figure it out?
[22:15:59] <supybot> <Strike|work> I had to step away for a bit (stupid work)
[22:28:58] <chadash> heh
[22:36:38] <chadash> okay...I am in a funk trying to figure out how to add a user...any hints?
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[22:39:41] <supybot> <Strike|work> @help register
[22:39:42] <supybot> <supybot> Strike|work: (register <name> <password>) -- Registers <name> with the given password <password> and the current hostmask of the person registering. You shouldn't register twice; if you're not recognized as a user but you've already registered, use the hostmask add command to add another hostmask to your already-registered user, or use the identify command to identify just for a (1 more message)
[22:39:48] <supybot> <Strike|work> tar dar
[22:41:14] <beoba> i added that gamesurge script to the site, if anyone wants to stick it onto the list
[22:41:31] <beoba> are there any other large lists of plugins other than the ones on http://supybot.com/supybot-plugins ?
[22:41:45] <supybot> <Strike|work> beoba: did you submit it for publishing?
[22:41:48] <beoba> might also be worth mentioning that the "Qstat" plugin on there is using the old plugin format
[22:41:57] <beoba> no idea, i just put up a page and uploaded the appropriate crap
[22:43:43] <supybot> <Strike|work> beoba: what's your username on the site?
[22:43:49] <beoba> beoba.
[22:43:56] <beoba> http://supybot.com/Members/beoba/GameSurge
[22:43:57] <supybot> Title: plugin_view Supybot Website (at supybot.com)
[22:44:44] <supybot> <Strike|work> see the top right where it says "visible"?  change that to "submit" (I think)
[22:44:54] <supybot> <Strike|work> or publish maybe
[22:45:31] <supybot> <Strike|work> and do the same for the release
[22:45:45] <supybot> <Strike|work> and let me know when you've got that done :)
[22:45:59] <beoba> done on both
[22:46:28] <supybot> <Strike|work> cool, thanks
[22:49:09] <supybot> <Strike|work> I'm going to publish them for you so that it shows up in the plugin list
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[22:51:43] <beoba> mmk
[22:51:48] <beoba> no rush, was just curious how that worked
[22:52:46] <supybot> <Strike|work> well, basically any plugins in the "published" state show up there, but only site admins (myself, jemfinch, and jamessan) can approve things for publication
[22:53:20] <jamessan> which is a PITA, if you ask me
[22:53:26] <jamessan> but Strike likes it
[22:54:24] <beoba> good idea in long run
[22:54:47] <beoba> maybe put a paragraph in the plugin list saying "want to be listed here? do this: ..."
[22:55:01] <supybot> <Strike|work> and as long as I like it and check up on it, it doesn't matter if it's a PITA :p
[22:55:18] <aa_> I think I can too, or maybe once could, or something
[22:55:31] <supybot> <Strike|work> ah maybe
[23:17:34] <beoba> how recently was the plugin arch changed to its current edition?
[23:19:07] <supybot> <Strike|work> 0.80.x I think
[23:19:16] <supybot> <Strike|work> check the changelog/relnotes
[23:23:32] <beoba> before i do this myself, does anyone happen to know if the relay plugin supports only going one way? (in other words, spying on an arbitrary channel)
[23:23:51] <supybot> <Strike|work> not that I know of
[23:24:03] <supybot> <Strike|work> though you could always just lobotomize it in that channel
[23:24:45] <beoba> does it require that both channels be the same name?
[23:24:56] <supybot> <Strike|work> yes
[23:25:04] <beoba> oh, then i'll be hacking it anyway then
[23:25:08] <supybot> <Strike|work> though obviously your own plugin would not
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