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[00:29:19] <antarus> bah pydoc doesn't much like the supybot modules...*grabs epydoc*
[00:29:55] <aa_> yay, people are hacking on the bot
[00:30:10] <antarus> er...yay/
[00:30:10] <antarus> ?
[00:30:11] <antarus> heh
[00:30:18] <antarus> I just want easily browsable docs ! :P
[00:30:19] <aa_> so, what are the future directions of Supybot? what is needed for 1.0 ?
[00:30:33] <aa_> antarus: how does pydoc fail?
[00:30:49] <antarus> Attribute error module has no attribute 'utils'
[00:30:59] <antarus> not sure what modules actually need to define for pydoc to work, so I don't really care ;P
[00:31:15] <antarus> epydoc will HTMLify it for me
[00:31:24] <aa_> just docstrings, which supybot has
[00:31:32] <aa_> antarus: so will pydoc,
[00:31:42] <antarus> Indeed that being the whole point ;P
[00:31:55] <aa_> well, no
[00:32:07] <aa_> pydoc has a few other output formats
[00:32:09] <antarus> pydoc can, but i like epydoc better ;P
[00:32:28] <aa_> that's the first good reason
[00:33:14] <aa_> epydoc is awesomely toilet in my opinion
[00:34:37] <antarus> why?
[00:34:59] <aa_> I just don't like it
[00:35:28] <aa_> it gains very little over pydoc in most cases, and you lose a great deal
[00:36:13] <antarus> lose...what?
[00:37:30] <aa_> there is no server, no plain text, no gui
[00:37:38] <aa_> it is heinously slow
[00:37:47] <aa_> and it forces you to generate html
[00:37:58] <aa_> and it is an absolute nightmare to extend
[00:38:32] * antarus already has a server and doesn't need plain text
[00:38:36] <antarus> gui = web browser
[00:38:51] <antarus> it has pdf and latex output as well
[00:39:06] <antarus> and I've never tried to extend it, but I would guess it's a PITA
[00:39:08] <antarus> most things are :/
[00:39:48] <aa_> well, anyway, in my opinion, while people convince themselves that software like this is "great" which they do, nothing will ever get better
[00:41:20] <aa_> the main problem with both is that they execute code
[00:46:26] <antarus> heh
[00:46:37] <antarus> great..partygoers are here..
[00:46:45] <antarus> no chicks though....yet..
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[02:00:29] <Inc> antarus, what this is supposed to do
[02:00:36] <Inc> is do !cap --programname
[02:00:41] <Inc> ok an example
[02:00:46] <Inc> !cap --xchat
[02:01:56] <Inc> it responds with. cap download located here www.somewhere.com/xchat-2-2.x.cap . or this is in the testing database type cap -g --db test xchat
[02:22:43] <antarus> Inc, is the supybot script running on a box with cap installed, so I can just query it?
[02:27:24] <Inc> what?
[02:27:30] <Inc> no it isn't
[02:27:41] <antarus> bah, why not :P
[02:27:45] <antarus> thats the easiest route ;P
[02:28:54] <Inc> heh.
[02:29:00] <Inc> because this is on a gentoo box lol
[02:29:05] <antarus> irony ;)
[02:29:18] <Inc> yes I know
[02:29:25] <Inc> I was pissed to but meh.
[02:30:20] <antarus> it's a lot easier to just add the cap binary to the gentoo system, even if it's only to grab the urls
[02:30:40] <Inc> hmmmm
[02:31:30] <antarus> otherwise you have to process some HTML or whatever, and it's just easier to run cap locally ;P
[02:31:37] <Inc> hmm
[02:31:46] <Inc> but cap the system won't run on gentoo
[02:31:55] <antarus> er...why not? :
[02:32:10] <Inc> because well I'm not sure of this but we made it for our system
[02:32:45] <antarus> where are the cap URL's stored?
[02:32:55] <antarus> maybe just store the cap data, and use a tool to grab it
[02:33:00] <antarus> local to the IRCbot
[02:34:26] <aa_> this amount of data is easily grabbed out of html
[02:34:44] <aa_> I think the bot comes with Beautiful Soup
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[03:08:28] <Inc> hmmm
[03:08:36] <Inc> aa_, it's php
[03:08:42] <Inc> caps.arcanelinux.org
[03:23:54] <aa_> ok, well if you can see it in a browser, you can get the information easily
[03:24:07] <Inc> yeh
[03:24:26] <Inc> I can probably get the guy who's on our dev team who makes the site
[03:24:36] <Inc> to make the whole capsule list exported to txt
[03:25:16] <aa_> yeah, or you could write a bot plugin in 5-10 minutes
[03:25:22] <Inc> heh
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[09:47:57] <Inc> I swear
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