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[00:06:58] <CIA-38> jeremyhu at macports dot org * r64314 /trunk/dports/devel/xulrunner-devel/Portfile:
[00:06:58] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64314
[00:06:58] <CIA-38> xulrunner-devel: bump to 1.9.2
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[00:14:31] <mpbot> krunk- is jameskyle and maintainer of mp4v2-dev, py26-pymvpa, py26-spyder, and atlas (of 28 total)
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[00:51:20] <CIA-38> portindex at macports dot org * r64315 /trunk/dports/ (PortIndex PortIndex.quick):
[00:51:20] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64315
[00:51:20] <CIA-38> Total number of ports parsed: 6646
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[00:57:46] <rgov> is there any plan in the roadmap so that if i build a universal variant of something, and its dependenceis are not universal, that it will recompile the dependencies universal?
[01:02:01] <jmr_mp> yes
[01:06:10] <rgov> is it going to remain written in tcl :)
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[01:09:26] <toby> there's no reason it has to stay in tcl
[01:09:31] <toby> i'm in favor of moving to objc actually
[01:09:51] <toby> we sort of pretend to support non-Mac OS X platforms, but realistically...
[01:10:02] <toby> that said, it's a lot of work and nobody's willing to do it
[01:12:14] <jmr_mp> depends what "it" is
[01:12:43] <toby> true
[01:13:07] <toby> honestly, replacing various components with C on a piecemeal basis wouldn't be that bad
[01:13:12] <jmr_mp> yep
[01:13:14] <toby> rewrite would be hard though :P
[01:13:22] <toby> registry2.0 is all C, yeah?
[01:13:31] <jmr_mp> mostly
[01:13:44] <toby> i haven't really been paying attention, other than noticing you've been making it actually work
[01:13:48] <jmr_mp> it's also not great code :P
[01:13:51] <toby> yeah well
[01:14:01] <rgov> not to get into a scripting language debate, but a lot of string manipulation and so on seem bad for C
[01:14:04] <toby> more or less scary than filemap.c?
[01:14:12] <toby> rgov: that's why i'm in favor of Obj-C
[01:14:20] <toby> NSString gives you enough power, imo
[01:14:20] <jmr_mp> probably less scary, but worse written
[01:14:44] <toby> or hell, even CFString
[01:14:50] <toby> although CF is a major pain in the ass, heh
[01:15:12] <jmr_mp> there really isn't that much string manipulation involved
[01:15:38] <jmr_mp> except via the whole tcl "everything is a string" thing
[01:16:02] <toby> tcl's string manipulation is a nightmare for that very reason :P
[01:16:08] <jmr_mp> yes
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[01:25:44] <rgov> anyone have success building launchd before?
[01:25:52] <rgov> i know its more for #macosforge but its always dead in there
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[01:34:10] <rgov> ah it fails hard for spaces in path names
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[01:51:05] <_wms> rgov: I'm always in #macosforge, but its not the right place to ask about launchd. Ask on launchd-dev at lists dot macosforge.org
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[02:00:52] <rgov> _wms: are there known problems building it? i'll see if i have any luck then talk to the mailing list
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[02:01:32] <_wms> rgov: you'll probably get stuck on quarantine.h or some other header. It has been a while since I tried.
[02:01:45] <rgov> yeah libbsm is missing
[02:02:05] <_wms> oh that one is open source
[02:02:12] <rgov> the quarantine thing is missing if you build from xcode, so i figured i'd do darwinbuild
[02:02:31] <rgov> honestly, none of the macosforge projects build in vanilla build environments :-P
[02:02:37] <_wms> it'll still be missing, darwinbuild doesn't have any magic for that
[02:02:58] <_wms> darwinbuild does
[02:03:05] <_wms> the rest I'm not responsible for
[02:03:08] <rgov> its questionable why they make some things open source in the first place, e.g., ld64 can't be built, because it requires libunwind which is not open
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[02:04:16] <mpbot> mf2k_mp is Frank (macsforever2000) and maintainer of kst, fastcap-wr, py26-serial, and py26-pyqwt (of 8 total) and is in Boulder, CO; local time is Mon 18:07 MST
[02:04:39] <_wms> We make source available for several reasons, but being able to easily build the OS for yourself is not one of them. Its just too hard and not worth it.
[02:04:58] <_wms> (not worth it meaning not enough people really care)
[02:05:10] <rgov> i'm not intending to build the whole OS
[02:05:17] <_wms> the lack of libunwind is annoying, I agree. I cannot comment further.
[02:05:23] <rgov> understood
[02:06:23] <rgov> i am trying to patch launchd, is all
[02:06:33] <rgov> i figured rather than doing a binary patch i would have more success building it
[02:06:36] <rgov> i was mistaken :)
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[02:08:47] <rgov> are you wsiegrist on trac?
[02:15:29] <toby> what are you trying to do to launchd?
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[02:17:52] <rgov> it has protections to stop me from switching sessions from a launchdaemon
[02:18:15] <rgov> i'm gutting that so that my VM can be set up for debugging the windowserver
[02:18:29] <rgov> (i.e., i'm doing horrible, twisted things to your operating system)
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[02:25:00] <CIA-38> takeshi at macports dot org * r64316 /trunk/dports/science/nco/Portfile:
[02:25:00] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64316
[02:25:00] <CIA-38> nco: returns error when netcdf +netcdf4 is not installed
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[02:42:13] <toby> rgov: you're doomed
[02:42:38] <rgov> i'm doomed/
[02:42:39] <rgov> ?
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[02:47:12] <toby> yes
[02:47:15] <toby> totally doomed
[02:48:04] <rgov> why so
[02:48:04] <_wms> totally
[02:48:38] <_wms> rgov: yes, I am wsiegrist
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[02:53:05] <rgov> i'm permitted to mercilessly destablizing my operating system for fun and profit
[02:53:23] <almonds> http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2010/03/cyber-war-hype/
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[04:06:39] <CIA-38> jmr at macports dot org * r64317 /trunk/base/src/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
[04:06:39] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64317
[04:06:39] <CIA-38> add flat->sqlite receipt conversion, fix receipt_sqlite::entry_exists_for_name, fix reg2 uninstall --follow-dependents
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[04:30:50] <wolfboy22> what's the best way to change periods to underscores in Tcl (to change a period-delimited version string to an underscore-delimited one)?
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[04:42:41] <jmr_mp> wolfboy22: string map
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[04:48:59] <wolfboy22> jmr_mp: so something like: set und_version [string map {. _} ${version}]
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[05:00:49] <jmr_mp> wolfboy22: right
[05:18:55] <CIA-38> ricci at macports dot org * r64318 /trunk/dports/devel/qscintilla/Portfile:
[05:18:55] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64318
[05:18:55] <CIA-38> dropping maintainership
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[05:51:17] <CIA-38> portindex at macports dot org * r64319 /trunk/dports/ (PortIndex PortIndex.quick):
[05:51:17] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64319
[05:51:17] <CIA-38> Total number of ports parsed: 6646
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[06:20:39] <CIA-38> rmsfisher at macports dot org * r64320 /trunk/dports/devel/iso-codes/Portfile:
[06:20:39] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64320
[06:20:39] <CIA-38> devel/iso-codes upgraded version from 3.13 to 3.14
[06:21:44] <CIA-38> rmsfisher at macports dot org * r64321 /trunk/dports/archivers/unrar/Portfile:
[06:21:44] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64321
[06:21:44] <CIA-38> archivers/unrar upgraded version from 3.9.8 to 3.9.9
[06:23:29] <CIA-38> rmsfisher at macports dot org * r64322 /trunk/dports/audio/ncmpcpp/Portfile:
[06:23:30] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64322
[06:23:30] <CIA-38> audio/ncmpcpp upgraded version from 0.5.1 to 0.5.2
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[06:51:20] <CIA-38> portindex at macports dot org * r64323 /trunk/dports/PortIndex:
[06:51:20] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64323
[06:51:20] <CIA-38> Total number of ports parsed: 6646
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[09:09:23] <Ionic> http://netstat.root24.eu/munin/Root24/Root24-if_eth0.html :)
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[11:02:17] <dade`> hi
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[11:53:50] <tishammer> i'm having some problems with selfupdate from 1.8.1 to 1.8.2 on snow leopard: /usr/local/include/curl/curlrules.h:134: error: size of array '__curl_rule_01__' is negative
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[12:07:24] <uebera||> tishammer: That's because you likely installed 3rdparty apps under /usr/local. Move them out of the way.
[12:08:46] <uebera||> (Macports uses /opt/local)
[12:12:46] <uebera||> exit
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[12:12:57] <uebera||> sorry, wrong window... ;)
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[13:20:35] <CIA-38> stromnov at macports dot org * r64324 /trunk/dports/python/py26-gevent/Portfile:
[13:20:35] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64324
[13:20:35] <CIA-38> py26-gevent: update to 0.12.2
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[13:51:23] <CIA-38> portindex at macports dot org * r64325 /trunk/dports/PortIndex:
[13:51:23] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64325
[13:51:23] <CIA-38> Total number of ports parsed: 6646
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[15:11:03] <tishammer> uebera||: i'm using /opt/local/
[15:15:22] <jmr_mp> obviously not exclusively
[15:15:24] <jmr_mp> http://echelog.matzon.dk/logs/browse/macports/1267225200
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[15:49:02] <mpbot> krunk- is jameskyle and maintainer of py26-pynifti, py26-pywavelets, mp4v2-dev, and backuppc (of 28 total)
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[16:31:14] <mpbot> mf2k_mp is Frank (macsforever2000) and maintainer of fasthenry-wr, fastcap-wr, kst, and py26-pmw (of 8 total) and is in Boulder, CO; local time is Tue 08:34 MST
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[16:39:22] <macen> anyone know of a way to get sshfs 2.4 through macports?
[16:39:29] <macen> current is 2.2
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[16:42:17] <macen> 2.2 doesn't support /etc/fstab, hence is kind of pointless
[16:42:38] <macen> unless you want to start mounts after every reboot
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[16:46:08] <CIA-38> singingwolfboy at macports dot org * r64326 /trunk/dports/lang/jython/ (Portfile files/):
[16:46:08] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64326
[16:46:08] <CIA-38> Updated jython to 2.5.1
[17:03:26] <CIA-38> jmr at macports dot org * r64327 /trunk/dports/x11/mowitz/Portfile:
[17:03:26] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64327
[17:03:26] <CIA-38> mowitz: whitespace, modeline
[17:04:21] <jmr_mp> macen: port edit sshfs
[17:05:08] <macen> jmr_mp: what and simply change the version number?
[17:05:22] <jmr_mp> and checksums, and probably update the patches
[17:05:50] <macen> meh
[17:06:02] <jmr_mp> well, you did ask :P
[17:06:38] <macen> ha :p
[17:06:41] <macen> k thanks anyway
[17:07:42] <jmr_mp> you can always file a ticket requesting the update if there isn't one already
[17:10:27] <macen> jmr_mp: where?
[17:11:09] <jmr_mp> http://guide.macports.org/#project.tickets
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[17:14:10] <CIA-38> jmr at macports dot org * r64328 /trunk/dports/x11/mowitz/Portfile:
[17:14:10] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64328
[17:14:10] <CIA-38> mowitz: fix master_sites (#23896), remove unnecessary flags
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[17:43:43] <daju> coming from a yum background is there a way for me to see how many megs a 'port install' will have to download before pulling the trigger?
[17:46:18] <_wms> daju: no
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[17:47:28] <_wms> daju: it would be a nice feature though if you feel like writing some patches :)
[17:51:23] <CIA-38> portindex at macports dot org * r64329 /trunk/dports/ (PortIndex PortIndex.quick):
[17:51:24] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64329
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[18:14:15] <LinuxDoc> hello
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[18:15:39] <LinuxDoc> i have some problems with the program "mp3splt-gtk" it compiles fine and runs, but it is not possible to connect to gstreamer-player to play mp3 files
[18:16:41] <LinuxDoc> must i do something with gstreamer ?
[18:17:23] <LinuxDoc> it shows in the console, that it is missing "audio-mpeg"
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[18:48:31] <CIA-38> breskeby at macports dot org * r64330 /trunk/dports/devel/griffon/Portfile:
[18:48:31] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64330
[18:48:31] <CIA-38> version bump to 0.3
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[19:51:19] <CIA-38> portindex at macports dot org * r64331 /trunk/dports/ (PortIndex PortIndex.quick):
[19:51:20] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64331
[19:51:20] <CIA-38> Total number of ports parsed: 6646
[19:51:20] <CIA-38> Ports successfully parsed: 6646
[19:51:20] <CIA-38> Ports failed: 0
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[20:17:48] <dash> howdy. someone want to help me understand why qt4-mac and kdelibs3 conflict?
[20:18:05] <dash> i'd like to have both qbzr and kcachegrind installed
[20:18:28] <dash> i'm relatively unfamiliar with ports; is this just impossible?
[20:19:55] <dports> I don't use them myself, but does that just mean you need to install qt4-mac before kdelibs3?
[20:20:42] <dash> I don't know
[20:20:55] <dash> it says "Unable to execute port: Can't install qt4-mac because conflicting ports are installed: kdelibs3"
[20:21:44] <dports> I think I remember hearing that the conflict is only one-way
[20:22:14] <dash> hm. not being experienced with ports, that just sounds nonsensical. :)
[20:23:31] <dports> Sure does, doesn't it?
[20:28:34] <jmr_mp> not really, it's a build-time conflict
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[21:06:01] <Ionic> Hmm... shit, OS X has no NFSv4 support...
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[21:23:37] <CIA-38> jmr at macports dot org * r64332 /trunk/dports/python/py26-sphinx/Portfile:
[21:23:37] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64332
[21:23:37] <CIA-38> py26-sphinx: update to 0.6.5
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[21:48:59] <CIA-38> jmr at macports dot org * r64333 /trunk/base/src/port/port.tcl:
[21:48:59] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64333
[21:48:59] <CIA-38> fix action_location when using reg2
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[21:51:13] <CIA-38> portindex at macports dot org * r64334 /trunk/dports/PortIndex:
[21:51:13] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64334
[21:51:13] <CIA-38> Total number of ports parsed: 6646
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[22:28:39] <_wms> jmr_mp: if my mail to -dev doesn't make sense, let me know.
[22:29:23] <jmr_mp> _wms: it does, but if I'm not mistaken you have to escape underscores if you use LIKE?
[22:29:45] <jmr_mp> I think COLLATE NOCASE is what I want after a bit more reading
[22:31:24] <_wms> You might be able to use ESCAPE to make the underscores not glob anything
[22:34:01] <_wms> jmr_mp: or just upper/lower case both sides of the comparison
[22:34:17] <jmr_mp> _wms: COLLATE NOCASE appears to do the trick :)
[22:35:45] <_wms> jmr_mp: you put that in the CREATE statement?
[22:35:50] <jmr_mp> yes
[22:35:59] <_wms> cool, never saw that before
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[22:40:42] <CIA-38> jmr at macports dot org * r64335 /trunk/base/src/cregistry/sql.c:
[22:40:42] <CIA-38> http://trac.macports.org/changeset/64335
[22:40:42] <CIA-38> define name column in registry2 db as case insensitive
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[23:38:08] <eTiger13> i cant get pgadmin3 to install on snow leopard. it cant find PostgreSQL in its folder even though its there
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[23:57:10] <eTiger13> i cant get pgadmin3 to install on snow leopard. it cant find PostgreSQL in its folder even though its there. any help?
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