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[01:48:01] <appel> anyone here?
[01:50:09] <appel> nvm
[02:57:50] <jonkri> nite all :)
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[03:16:20] <cracoucas83> hi everybody
[03:16:32] <cracoucas83> I need to compile a dll for JNI use
[03:16:42] <cracoucas83> can someone explain me what compiler to choose?
[03:24:04] <jezek2> mingw32
[03:24:17] <jezek2> what dll is it? can you use JNA instead?
[03:24:33] <cracoucas83> I tried it but mingw produce something I can not use with java
[03:24:40] <cracoucas83> only visual studio works
[03:24:54] <cracoucas83> but the dll produced is not 100% compatible on all windows
[03:25:03] <cracoucas83> what is JNA?
[03:25:53] <jezek2> hm didn't have problem with mingw32 & JNI
[03:26:09] <jezek2> https://jna.dev.java.net/
[03:26:15] <cracoucas83> ok so can I send you the tiny cpp file and you can try compiling it for me
[03:26:38] <jezek2> I'm not on windows right now :)
[03:26:57] <cracoucas83> ok can I have your msn to keep in touch ?
[03:27:31] <jezek2> nope (also I don't have a msn ;)
[03:27:48] <jezek2> try pasting it into http://pastebin.com/
[03:27:53] <jezek2> maybe there is some error I can spot :)
[03:28:09] <cracoucas83> the dll works ok with Visual studio
[03:28:14] <cracoucas83> but I am going to paste
[03:28:39] <cracoucas83> http://pastebin.com/5TEmN7Q4
[03:28:43] <cracoucas83> here is the cpp
[03:29:21] <cracoucas83> and the .h
[03:29:22] <cracoucas83> http://pastebin.com/hqBeEwyH
[03:29:56] <jezek2> hmm
[03:30:01] <jezek2> what command do you use for compiling
[03:30:03] <cracoucas83> http://pastebin.com/UYbjW8P0 the cpp again
[03:30:10] <cracoucas83> with mingw?
[03:30:15] <jezek2> yeah
[03:30:20] <cracoucas83> g++
[03:30:26] <cracoucas83> and it produces a big dll
[03:30:31] <cracoucas83> I want something small
[03:30:38] <cracoucas83> something around 5 kB
[03:32:00] <jezek2> try this http://www.mingw.org/node/41
[03:32:39] <jezek2> hm big dlls, I think that's normal
[03:32:42] <cracoucas83> are you sure gcc can compile c++ ?
[03:32:47] <jezek2> yes it can
[03:33:00] <cracoucas83> ok let me try
[03:33:20] <jezek2> so it works under visual studio but having some compatibility problems across windows versions?
[03:33:44] <jezek2> I've read that VS is best for windows and mingw not so much good on it
[03:34:44] <cracoucas83> yes I have some compatibility problem
[03:35:04] <jezek2> any details?
[03:36:02] <cracoucas83> on some xp platforms I get unstaisfiedlinkerror
[03:36:12] <cracoucas83> but on most XP it works good
[03:37:01] <jezek2> which one
[03:37:15] <jezek2> maybe it just uses newer C runtime which is not present on that XP systems
[03:37:17] <cracoucas83> I do not know I tried with many xp home
[03:37:23] <cracoucas83> some have problemes
[03:37:49] <jezek2> it should print which library it's causing I think :)
[03:37:58] <jezek2> or maybe not
[03:38:36] <jezek2> anyway try searching the dll file content for ".dll" and see if there is msvcr90.dll or something like that
[03:39:02] <cracoucas83> I do not how to do it
[03:39:12] <cracoucas83> anyway I will ask someone to compile it for me
[03:39:23] <jezek2> or try compiling the C runtime statically
[03:39:45] <cracoucas83> what do you mean ?
[03:40:24] <jezek2> seems you don't know much about compiling :)
[03:40:34] <cracoucas83> exact
[03:40:59] <jezek2> try looking into compile and/or linking options for your project in visual studio
[03:41:07] <jezek2> if there is option to statically link C runtime
[03:41:11] <cracoucas83> I tried all options
[03:41:20] <cracoucas83> but when I change something
[03:41:30] <cracoucas83> the dll is not working anymore
[03:41:34] <jezek2> well
[03:42:12] <jezek2> changing things without knowing what they do and not analyzing it precisely won't help you in progress
[03:42:34] <cracoucas83> I am looking for an expert
[03:43:57] <jezek2> yeah, but you would need to find someone else as I'm not doing this actively (don't use windows for development, never ran visual studio other than some ancient version long time ago, etc ;)
[03:44:34] <cracoucas83> okwell thank you for your help
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[12:15:45] <lwjglbot> lwjglforum: Re: LWJGL and Android <http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,2818.msg17999.html#msg17999> || Re: LWJGL and Android <http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,2818.msg17998.html#msg17998> || Re: LWJGL and Android <http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,2818.msg17997.html#msg17997>
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[14:45:52] <lwjglbot> lwjglforum: Re: LWJGL and Android <http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,2818.msg18000.html#msg18000>
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[15:20:11] <delt0r> MatthiasM: any big changes to TWL lately?
[15:20:35] <MatthiasM2> delt0r: saw the chat demo?
[15:21:05] <delt0r> yea
[15:21:43] <MatthiasM2> I'm currently working on the theme editor again to make it a bit easier to use
[15:22:12] <delt0r> Kool--3rd party tools for the game...
[15:22:25] <delt0r> I don't really understand the skinning cominity
[15:22:25] <MatthiasM2> ?
[15:22:37] <delt0r> but they are popular
[15:23:14] <delt0r> so anyone wants to do a skin/theme they use your editor...
[15:23:15] <MatthiasM2> the theme editor is not for the players of your game - it's for you to make designing the look&feel easier
[15:23:32] <delt0r> thats what you think ;)
[15:23:52] <delt0r> tbh i having used the theme editor yet
[15:24:02] <delt0r> having havn't
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[15:35:41] <delt0r> MatthiasM2: the theme editor is freking out with mouse clicks a bit
[15:41:09] <MatthiasM2> ??
[15:43:32] <delt0r> Sorry it was my bug
[15:43:40] <delt0r> I use synergy with the laptop
[15:43:55] <delt0r> and the mouse cable was touching the mouse pad...
[15:45:58] <lwjglbot> lwjglforum: Re: LWJGL and Android <http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,2818.msg18002.html#msg18002> || Re: LWJGL and Android <http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,2818.msg18001.html#msg18001>
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[16:06:42] <MatthiasM2> heh
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[16:58:46] <appel> hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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[16:59:33] <appel> :>>>>>>>>
[16:59:39] <appel> good late day morning
[17:16:03] <lwjglbot> lwjglforum: Re: LWJGL and Android <http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,2818.msg18003.html#msg18003>
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[19:21:39] <purestrain> hi; i asked several month ago about a problem with by second monitor; no further progress on why lwjgl always disables my second screen?
[19:21:55] <purestrain> its getting quite annoying :-(
[19:22:10] <kappaOne> purestrains its fixed
[19:22:22] <kappaOne> grab the latest nightly build of lwjgl
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[19:22:49] <purestrain> \o/
[19:23:38] <purestrain> wow, continous integration ?
[19:23:44] <kappaOne> next release of lwjgl 2.4 should out soon to, it'll be part of that but if you need it now, use the nightly build
[19:24:00] <kappaOne> *should be
[19:26:03] <purestrain> can i just replace the libraries of existing games ?
[19:26:47] <kappaOne> hmm, you should be able to
[19:27:01] <kappaOne> unless they are using a really old version of lwjgl with different api
[19:27:45] <purestrain> hoooray !!!
[19:28:01] <MatthiasM2> purestrain: LWJGL 2.3 removed support for non direct buffers
[19:28:41] <MatthiasM2> so if the game used an older version it will not work with the 2.3+ if it uses non direct buffers
[19:30:24] <purestrain> what was the reason for my problem ? is there a bugtracker i can watch ?
[19:30:45] <kappaOne> theres a lengthy post about it on the lwjgl forums
[19:30:56] <kappaOne> some else also had the problem
[19:31:03] <kappaOne> and they created a fix for lwjgl
[19:31:36] <kappaOne> read http://lwjgl.org/forum/index.php/topic,3225.0.html if your interested
[19:33:35] <purestrain> nice, very nice... now i can actually start using java monkey engine
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[20:45:07] <void256> where the f*ck is kev!
[20:46:41] * MatthiasM2 slaps void256
[20:46:43] <MatthiasM2> hi
[20:47:14] <void256> hi matt
[20:47:24] <void256> how's that other gui doing? xD
[20:47:56] <MatthiasM2> there is only one - and that is doing fine - take a look at the new demo
[20:48:30] <void256> the new demo of the only opengl gui evar is still work in progress and I look at it all of my free time right now =)
[20:48:34] <void256> link?
[20:48:53] <MatthiasM2> http://twl.l33tlabs.org/demo/chatdemo.jnlp
[20:49:56] <void256> matt
[20:50:01] <void256> can I be honest?
[20:50:04] <void256> :o)
[20:50:17] <MatthiasM2> ?
[20:50:37] <void256> it's quite nice but why does it look so damn ugly? :)
[20:50:50] <void256> it reminds me of some very old unix window manager
[20:50:51] <MatthiasM2> void256: because it should be simple
[20:50:52] <void256> :)
[20:50:55] <void256> yes
[20:50:58] <void256> simple is good
[20:50:59] <MatthiasM2> eg minimal amount of XML etc
[20:51:06] <void256> sure
[20:51:16] <void256> but just a little bit more style?
[20:51:18] <void256> PLEASE
[20:51:19] <void256> :)
[20:51:37] <MatthiasM2> you are free to add more :)
[20:51:44] <void256> as I said it's really nice otherwise
[20:51:52] <void256> text selection and stuff
[20:52:00] <void256> in the input field
[20:52:02] <void256> looks nice
[20:52:03] <MatthiasM2> just download the source and use the theme editor and your favorite image editing tool
[20:52:10] <void256> :)
[20:52:21] <void256> I would like to do it but I have no time :)
[20:52:55] <void256> I need to finish a gui demo with lots of style
[20:52:58] <void256> and with snow
[20:52:59] <void256> :)
[20:53:27] <void256> it's basically finished but I need to add a couple of pages of description because it is a nifty gui demo AND tutorial
[20:53:32] <void256> and it will kick ass
[20:53:34] <void256> :D
[20:54:30] <void256> und das meine spagetthi sosse versaltzen ist, hilft irgendwie auch net richtig
[20:54:32] <void256> xD
[20:55:23] <MatthiasM2> hab heute Cocos-Kuchen gebacken :)
[20:55:43] <void256> oh geil
[20:55:45] <void256> fotos?
[20:55:47] <void256> :)
[20:55:49] <void256> oder schon weg?
[20:57:21] <MatthiasM2> fast weg - sieht wie nen normaler Kuchen aus - nur etwas luftiger
[20:57:46] <void256> ich hab hier nen rezept das geht mit puddinf
[20:57:48] <void256> *pudding
[20:57:56] <void256> mal gucken, ob ich das gleich finde
[20:58:52] <void256> 4 eier
[20:58:54] <void256> 1 tasse öl (kleine tasse)
[20:58:55] <void256> 1 tasse zucker (kleine tasse)
[20:58:57] <void256> 4 packungen puddingpulver
[20:58:58] <void256> 1 tüte vanillezucker
[20:59:00] <void256> 1/2 tüte backpulver
[20:59:02] <void256> einfach alles verrühren .. und in eine topfkuchen form.. fertig ist er wenn nichts mehr an nem zahnstocher klebenbleibt beim rein stechen
[20:59:03] <void256> bei 190 grad oder so
[20:59:05] <void256> :)
[20:59:06] <void256> opengl kuchen
[20:59:09] <void256> \o/
[20:59:11] <void256> xD
[21:00:32] <MatthiasM2> heh
[21:04:28] <NoobFukaire> fudderwhacken!
[21:05:01] <void256> gesundheit!
[21:05:03] <void256> :D
[21:30:10] * void256 slaps glass
[21:30:25] <glass> boo
[21:30:33] <void256> (it's hopefully kev  .. if you are not mr. kev glass please excuse)
[21:30:48] <glass> i'm not kev :)
[21:30:52] <void256> hi kev, how's it going?
[21:31:01] <void256> I don't believe your mr. glass
[21:31:03] <void256> :)
[21:31:09] <glass> i'm just someone who recently started to get intrested on some desktop opengl programming
[21:31:20] <NoobFukaire> kev when did you move to finland
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[21:31:25] <void256> [21:34:23]	<void256>	I don't believe your mr. glass <--
[21:31:30] <void256> finland?
[21:31:32] <void256> uhm
[21:31:38] <glass> hehe
[21:31:44] <void256> [21:35:01]	===	glass <glass at ip242 dot otanner5.opintanner.fi> ?Lassi K?
[21:31:46] <void256> OMG
[21:31:47] * glass is http://www.flickr.com/photos/glasslife/
[21:31:52] <void256> I'm so sorry dude
[21:31:53] <void256> xD
[21:32:01] <glass> hehe
[21:32:20] <glass> finland is cold, so i wouldn't recommend kev moving here either
[21:32:27] <NoobFukaire> lapland
[21:32:43] <void256> http://www.kevinglass.com/index.php?page=about
[21:32:45] <void256> uhm
[21:32:49] <void256> is this kev?
[21:32:53] <void256> #new page?
[21:33:12] <NoobFukaire> wtf
[21:33:23] <void256> yeah
[21:33:30] <void256> that's how I look right now
[21:33:32] <void256> <-- WTF
[21:33:41] <void256> there is even no link to slick2d on that page
[21:33:43] <void256> o_O
[21:34:17] <void256> oh
[21:34:19] <void256> nice
[21:34:21] <void256> he has ICQ
[21:34:26] <NoobFukaire> nice
[21:34:27] <void256> THAT WAS A MISTAKE KEV
[21:34:29] <void256> :D
[21:34:45] <void256> let's see if he's online :)
[21:35:14] <glass> hehe
[21:36:24] <void256> I just added him on MSN, ICQ and Yahoo
[21:36:25] <void256> :>
[21:39:35] <void256> and now I wait
[21:39:44] <void256> that he blocks me on all three
[21:39:46] <void256> ^^
[21:40:55] <kappaOne> void thats a really old web page
[21:41:03] <kappaOne> well before slick2d existed
[21:41:16] <kappaOne> probably the reason why theres no reference to it
[21:41:26] <void256> oh
[21:41:28] <void256> ^^
[21:41:31] <void256> haven't seen it
[21:41:36] <void256> that's odd
[21:41:46] <void256> probably because I never googled him before xD
[21:43:35] <kappaOne> theres also http://www.groovyrobot.com incase you missed it :)
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[21:45:03] <ZeuPiark> hello
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[22:14:25] <void256> opengl 4.0?
[22:14:29] <void256> matt?
[22:14:40] <void256> what's the deal with gl 4?
[22:14:42] <void256> :)
[22:14:53] <NoobFukaire> it won't matter for a while
[22:15:04] <kappaOne> just brings opengl update with directx 11
[22:15:13] <kappaOne> *update = up to date
[22:15:23] <void256> geometry generation?
[22:15:53] <kappaOne> hardware tessellation and compute shaders
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[22:19:01] <kappaOne> still be years before theres enough hardware there for the masses to use opengl 3
[22:20:22] <void256> :/
[22:20:31] <void256> iPhone 4 probably? =)
[22:20:51] <kappaOne> that'll likely still be stuck on opengl es 2.x
[22:21:15] <void256> there's probably no es 3.0 / 4.0 yet too, yep
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[23:21:21] <appel> hi
[23:21:25] <MatthiasM2> lo
[23:22:20] <void256> apple rocks
[23:22:28] <void256> not sure about appel
[23:22:30] <void256> hi
[23:22:32] <void256> xD
[23:22:38] <MatthiasM2> void256: you got it wrong
[23:22:44] <appel> :)
[23:22:51] <MatthiasM2> appel rocks - not the other way around
[23:22:57] <appel> yesterday
[23:23:00] <appel> at work
[23:23:04] <appel> I was Steve Jobs
[23:23:12] <void256> realtiy distortion field?
[23:23:12] <appel> something like a custome party
[23:23:14] <void256> ^^
[23:23:18] <void256> WTF?
[23:23:19] <void256> xD
[23:23:25] <appel> everyone on my floor were Steve Jobs
[23:23:42] <appel> blue jeans, black turtleneck shirt
[23:23:49] <void256> so, now I'm SCARED
[23:23:51] <void256> >_<
[23:23:58] <appel> another floor was KISS
[23:24:01] <void256> iPad each?
[23:24:03] <void256> :P
[23:24:09] <appel> they won :(
[23:24:16] <appel> it was a contest
[23:24:18] <void256> ^^
[23:24:22] <MatthiasM2> lol
[23:24:24] <appel> like Hawaiin shirt day
[23:24:29] <appel> lol
[23:24:31] <void256> where do you work?
[23:24:32] <void256> ^^
[23:24:38] <appel> iceland telecom
[23:24:39] <MatthiasM2> next is pirate day?
[23:24:44] <appel> rarrr ya
[23:24:45] <appel> :D
[23:25:07] <void256> telecom is crazy (probably everywhere true ^^)
[23:25:15] <appel> it was ok though :)
[23:25:20] <appel> everybody had fun
[23:25:33] <appel> felt like being back at kindergarten
[23:25:59] <MatthiasM2> :)
[23:26:40] <appel> managers were dressed up as women
[23:26:49] <appel> i did not recognize half of the people
[23:26:49] <MatthiasM2> lol
[23:26:56] <MatthiasM2> made photos?
[23:27:03] <appel> i dont have any
[23:27:08] <MatthiasM2> maybe better
[23:27:35] <appel> i swear, the product owner for the television was wearing a skirt
[23:27:52] <appel> he's almost 60 years old
[23:28:29] <appel> something like this wouldn't happen in other countries :) lol
[23:29:08] <NoobFukaire> was it a kilt?
[23:29:21] <NoobFukaire> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Black_watch_kilt.JPG
[23:29:36] <MatthiasM2> heh
[23:30:41] <appel> no
[23:30:50] <appel> http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41Z2UBulSFL.jpg
[23:31:03] <void256> nice
[23:31:07] <void256> that is yur boss?
[23:31:09] <void256> :D
[23:31:17] <MatthiasM2> lol
[23:31:24] <appel> their department were doing a Queen theme
[23:31:27] <appel> as in Freddy Mercury
[23:31:45] <void256> crazy people over there
[23:31:47] <void256> xD
[23:32:06] <appel> another department changed their entire floor to a disco room
[23:32:23] <appel> nuts
[23:32:40] <void256> why was this?
[23:32:42] <void256> some holiday?
[23:32:48] <appel> "cleaning day"
[23:32:52] <appel> lol
[23:32:53] <void256> iceland goes nuts day or something?
[23:32:55] <void256> xD
[23:33:08] <appel> cleaning day and a custome party
[23:33:19] <appel> first time
[23:33:26] <appel> 2-3 days notice
[23:33:56] <appel> awards were given for best cleaning (or most progress) and best costume
[23:34:02] <appel> good way to mix something boring with something fun
[23:34:23] <appel> our department won the cleaning award :>
[23:34:32] <appel> something like a dozen departments
[23:34:56] <appel> i think it was because i cleaned up my desk =X
[23:35:15] <MatthiasM2> haha
[23:35:41] <void256> ;)
[23:41:18] <appel> bahh
[23:41:22] <appel> anyone use eclipse?
[23:41:28] <MatthiasM2> no
[23:41:32] <MatthiasM2> :P
[23:41:32] <kappaOne> yes
[23:41:34] <kappaOne> :)
[23:41:44] <void256> yes of course
[23:41:46] <void256> :)
[23:41:49] <NoobFukaire> YES
[23:41:56] <NoobFukaire> I liked eclipse so much I married it
[23:41:56] <kappaOne> stupid question :)
[23:42:02] <kappaOne> it should be anyone not using eclipse :)
[23:42:06] <appel> When I comment code with /* and */  and then format the document ctrl+shift+f .. the commented code goes fubar
[23:42:30] <MatthiasM2> looks like a good tool ....
[23:42:32] <appel> it puts * in front of every line, and wraps the lines
[23:43:04] <appel> and there's no way to remove the commenting but to remove it line-by-line
[23:43:18] <appel> ctrl+shift+7 doesnt do the trick
[23:43:19] <NoobFukaire> ctrl+shift+/
[23:43:43] <appel> nope
[23:43:49] <appel> it just adds //
[23:44:02] <NoobFukaire> it adds /* */ if it's a multiline selection
[23:44:33] <appel> nope
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[23:44:59] <NoobFukaire> what kind of funky eclipse are ye using?
[23:45:44] <appel> just standard stuff
[23:46:05] <appel> galileo?
[23:46:44] <appel> oh well, no matter
[23:46:59] <NoobFukaire> well two things: A) eclipse keeps a model of the history of the document so undo should always work (works fine here) and B) standard shortcuts should work???
[23:47:24] <NoobFukaire> the eclipse document model is really cool but complex
[23:48:04] <appel> i've already uncommented the code, so no problem. but it's still annoying sometimes
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[23:50:04] <void256> B)
[23:50:09] <void256> is a cool smiley her
[23:50:11] <void256> B)
[23:50:15] <void256> *here
[23:50:36] <MatthiasM2> void256: using a smiley with sunglasses doesn't make you any cooler
[23:50:54] <void256> damn
[23:51:09] <MatthiasM2> try dry ice
[23:51:12] <void256> [23:54:23]	===	B) Erroneous Nickname
[23:51:13] <void256> damn
[23:51:15] <void256> :>
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