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[00:13:10] <Lewisham> what's the group ID for plugins?
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[00:15:36] <Lewisham> guess it doesn't matter
[00:15:55] <calculus> ooo, that's interesting... hudson with project-based authorization does not allow anonymous to configure nodes if even the anonymouse user clicks on configure
[00:16:28] <calculus> it goes and prompts for a username/pass which defeats the point of anonymous
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[00:25:45] <Lewisham> kohsuke: I committed to https://svn.dev.java.net/svn/hudson/trunk/hudson/plugins/jdepend
[00:26:04] <kohsuke> This was the one whose Recorder doesn't show up in the config?
[00:26:18] <Lewisham> yeah, and it doesn't seem to work on Maven jobs either
[00:26:32] <Lewisham> https://svn.dev.java.net/svn/hudson/trunk/hudson/plugins/jdepend/src/main/java/com/cflewis/hudson/jdepend/JDependRecorder.java
[00:27:03] <Lewisham> so any light on either of those problems would be awesome
[00:27:52] <kohsuke> Checking out the code now.
[00:30:09] <kohsuke> I committed a fix
[00:30:15] <Lewisham> you are a legent
[00:30:17] <Lewisham> *legend
[00:30:42] <kohsuke> see the diff for details, but I'm curious where you picked up that convention
[00:30:51] <kohsuke> Do we need to fix some documentation out there?
[00:31:14] <calculus> I figured it out... configuring slaves requires adminstrator privs
[00:31:27] <calculus> even though there is an option to configure them separately
[00:31:51] <calculus> kohsuke: ^^ ideas?
[00:32:18] <kohsuke> Right, currently slaves don't have separate ACLs
[00:32:54] <calculus> but they have a configure checkbox in project-based authorization
[00:33:55] <calculus> a lot of this is probably moot if I can configure the swarm slaves plugin to work
[00:34:02] <kohsuke> I think I understand what you are saying
[00:34:22] <kohsuke> The slave configuration shouldn't require the ADMINISTER permission, because there's a separate one
[00:34:28] <kohsuke> OK, that sounds like a bug
[00:34:42] <calculus> Access Denied
[00:34:44] <calculus> guest is missing the Administer permission
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[00:35:15] <calculus> that was only after creating a guest account... anonymous with a checkbox there couldn't even get that warning
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[00:37:05] <Lewisham_> kohsuke: that convention was from the hpi:create archetype
[00:37:25] <kohsuke> Hmm
[00:37:45] <Lewisham_> which seems pretty out of date now
[00:38:11] <kohsuke> I thought it's updated --- maybe the doc points you to use an old version of the maven-hpi-plugin?
[00:38:30] <kohsuke> Oh no, you are right
[00:44:49] <calculus> no surprise, but a swarm slave running on the same box as the master is able to find the master, but my computer across the hall can't find it
[00:45:16] <kohsuke> is it on the same subnet?
[00:45:23] <kohsuke> the discovery is based on UDP broadcast
[00:47:50] <kohsuke> you can also explicitly specify the Hudson URL if that suits you
[00:48:01] <calculus> how much has to be the same, to be in the same subnet... first two sets match, the last two sets are different
[00:48:09] <calculus> oh, that may work better
[00:48:19] <kohsuke> subnet is your network mask
[00:48:54] <kohsuke> if your IP is 169.25.1.9 and subnet mask is 255.255.0.0, your subnet is 169.25.0.0
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[00:49:35] <calculus> then the two machines are on different subnets
[00:49:51] <kohsuke> That explains
[00:49:55] <calculus> so what is the url option?
[00:50:07] <kohsuke> Run it with --help to see them
[00:51:04] <calculus> "--help" is not a valid option
[00:51:28] <calculus> maybe -help
[00:52:01] <kohsuke> well, it's misleading but you do see the list of options when you run with --help, don't you
[00:52:16] <calculus> nope, both options tell me about -labels -name -description -executors and -fsroot
[00:52:29] <calculus> nothing about url
[00:52:36] <kohsuke> oh, oh
[00:52:38] <kohsuke> ah
[00:53:10] <kohsuke> OK, so I was wrong
[00:53:15] <kohsuke> we don't have the option to set the server
[00:53:20] <kohsuke> I thought I had it
[00:53:33] <kohsuke> Let me add that
[00:53:34] <calculus> can I have it? :)
[00:53:37] <calculus> wee
[00:53:55] <kohsuke> Are you doing a VM deployment or physical machine deployment?
[00:54:20] <calculus> hmm... VM might be easier in the long run, but for now it would be physical machine
[00:55:00] <calculus> basically someone can donate their cycles when they go home for the day
[00:55:33] <calculus> we need mainly windows slaves and I am not sure how the licensing would work for VMs
[00:56:16] <calculus> and we plan on using the auto-installing of tools
[00:56:24] <calculus> jdk and maven
[00:59:48] <kohsuke> can I send you the new jar offline so that you can sanity check before I release?
[01:00:02] <calculus> that would be fine
[01:00:23] <kohsuke> where should I send it?
[01:04:38] <kohsuke> just sent it.
[01:05:07] <calculus> downloading now
[01:06:06] <calculus> cool, I didn't even need to specify a port
[01:06:18] * calculus goes to check what the master sees
[01:10:52] <calculus> kohsuke: looks like all the options are working and the master can see the slave
[01:11:08] <calculus> at least on from my mac
[01:11:09] <kohsuke> good
[01:11:41] <calculus> now if we can get the auto-installer from windows to unix slave fixed this saturday, I am in business :)
[01:13:43] <kohsuke> Are you coming this Saturday?
[01:13:48] <calculus> I plan to
[01:13:56] <kohsuke> Good.
[01:13:59] <kohsuke> I'm sure we can get that one fixed
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[01:37:00] <Lewisham_> kohsuke: could you see any reason with the JDepend plugin as to why it won't activate with Maven projects?
[01:37:32] <kohsuke> Let me see
[01:37:47] <kohsuke> It should work
[01:38:18] <kohsuke> testing
[01:43:47] <kohsuke> It shows up for me
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[01:46:11] <Lewisham_> really?
[01:46:15] <Lewisham_> it appears in the config screen
[01:46:19] <Lewisham_> but it never outputs to the log
[01:46:31] <Lewisham_> or on the completed build page
[01:46:32] <Lewisham_> for me
[01:46:36] <Lewisham_> perform() never gets calleed
[01:47:46] <kohsuke> oh, I see, that's what you mean
[01:47:59] <Lewisham_> yeah, sorry, I wasn't clear
[01:48:00] <kohsuke> That's because you implement a deprecated perform method
[01:48:22] <Lewisham_> man, this hpi:create archetype gets worse and worse ;)
[01:48:31] <kohsuke> I really need to update it, yes.
[01:51:52] <Lewisham_> OK, rebuilding
[01:55:37] <Lewisham_> no change
[01:55:59] * rtyler waves
[01:56:41] <rtyler> abayer: funny that the new guy's first gripe is about java.net...
[01:56:41] * rtyler sympathizes
[01:58:17] <Lewisham_> oh wait...
[01:59:51] <Lewisham_> yayyyyyy
[01:59:53] <Lewisham_> it works
[01:59:55] <Lewisham_> \o/
[02:00:18] <Lewisham_> and that's the bug list finished!
[02:00:36] <kohsuke> good
[02:01:55] <Lewisham_> rtyler: what's your preferred way of pushing a git repo to the java.net SVN?
[02:02:52] <rtyler> I've never done it, I tend to pull stuff out of SVN, and never look back
[02:03:20] <rtyler> calculus: so where might you be coming to the meetup from?
[02:05:13] <Lewisham_> rtyler: sad face :(
[02:05:27] <Lewisham_> I guess I'll just do manual moves of the files to an SVN dir and check that in
[02:07:17] <rtyler> are you talking plugin stuff, or a git-svn repo?
[02:07:38] <Lewisham_> I've been developing my plugin in git
[02:07:43] <rtyler> kohsuke: guy just pinged me about directions to the slide office from the airport o_O
[02:07:45] <kohsuke> shouldn't git-svn dcommit work?
[02:07:53] <rtyler> kohsuke: only if you git-svn cloned it
[02:08:09] * Lewisham_ nods
[02:08:24] <kohsuke> you can git-svn clone and then rebase your current work against that, no?
[02:09:04] <Lewisham_> that's possible, if I don't mind losing my original commits
[02:09:09] <Lewisham_> I don't think I mind
[02:09:14] <Lewisham_> I'll have a go later
[02:11:57] <Lewisham_> the important thing is that the first RC for the plugin is now in the java.net SVN
[02:12:02] <Lewisham_> so now I feel like a real boy
[02:13:48] <Lewisham_> and now it's time to go home
[02:13:49] <Lewisham_> bye guys!
[02:14:04] <kohsuke> bye
[02:21:32] <calculus> rtyler: South Bay, Mountain View
[02:21:50] <calculus> plan is to go by train and walk the couple of blocks to there
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[02:36:37] <rtyler> wooot
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[03:03:56] <mrooney> kohsuke: I can't find a way to set SVN authentication info anymore, did that disappear in a Subversion SCM update?
[03:04:35] <mrooney> now builds just blow up because there is no authentication info for it to update with :[
[03:04:51] <kohsuke> If you go to the project configuration screen it'll ask you to enter a credential.
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[04:03:05] <jieryn-w> i really like the self-executing war feature you have -- i don't see the assembly where you make this happen though
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[04:04:18] <kohsuke> I hate Maven assembly plugin
[04:05:40] * jieryn-w too
[04:05:47] <jieryn-w> how does hudson make this happen, then?
[04:05:56] <kohsuke> maven-antrun-extended-plugin
[04:05:58] <kohsuke> I do it via Ant
[04:06:24] <jieryn-w> hudson/extras/executable-war ?
[04:06:36] <kohsuke> that's the code that we put in
[04:06:44] <kohsuke> the war packaging logic is in main/war/pom.xml
[04:08:11] <jieryn-w> <manifest><mainClass>Main</</
[04:08:30] <jieryn-w> and i also see maven-antrun-extended-plugin ok, reading
[04:09:32] <jieryn-w> this is awesome, kudos
[04:10:44] <kohsuke> Glad you liked it
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[10:49:35] <W_work> what do people do about CI dependencies? E.g. findbugs, checkstyle, jslint, etc.? Put them in subversion, and check out with every job that needs it? Install them on every Hudson node?
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[15:59:09] <W_work> I went with putting them in subversion, makes things easier when we upgrade
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[17:54:16] <jieryn-w> greetings - i'm using hudson 1.315 and all my projects are maven based
[17:54:25] <jieryn-w> there is an option to run deploy after a stable build is complete
[17:54:49] <jieryn-w> it only has one URL for the deployment repository manager though -- shouldn't there be two?? one for releases and one for snapshots?
[17:54:58] <abayer_> I've been thinking about that myself.
[17:55:00] <jieryn-w> i use nexus as my repo manager.. can anyone give me an example URL i should use?
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[17:55:31] <jieryn-w> or better still would be just to have options to run maven again
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[17:55:38] <jieryn-w> e.g.   mvn -P deployment deploy
[17:55:46] <abayer_> blerg. Sorry, missed that.
[17:55:55] <jieryn-w> eh?
[17:56:00] <abayer_> Got disconnected.
[17:56:03] <jieryn-w> or better still would be just to have options to run maven again
[17:56:05] <jieryn-w> e.g.   mvn -P deployment deploy
[17:56:35] <abayer_> Yeah, I, at first, was going doing that road, but it's problematic in some cases.
[17:57:24] <abayer_> For example, the promoted builds plugin lets you run the post-build deploy, but that won't work with running mvn deploy, since another build may have run, etc.
[17:58:05] <abayer_> I tend to think there should probably be snapshot and release deployment options. If you open an issue for this, I can try to get that added this weekend.
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[17:58:47] <jieryn-w> i dunno, i think the option should just trigger a fresh instance of mvn on that project's workspace
[17:58:53] <jieryn-w> i already have gone through the trouble of creating .m2/settings.xml updates for my deployment repository
[17:59:37] <abayer_> If that's what you want, your easiest option would then just be to use the m2-extra-steps plugin - that'll let you run an arbitrary Maven execution after your build finishes, assuming it meets the criteria you specify.
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[17:59:52] <jieryn-w> ok
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[18:10:14] <jieryn-w> abayer_: thanks for that information about m2-extra-steps
[18:10:23] <jieryn-w> this properly solves the issue
[18:10:27] <abayer_> np np. We should really fold that into the core Maven plugin.
[18:14:21] <jieryn-w> it's quite slick
[18:14:24] <jieryn-w> altho i think i found a bug :)
[18:14:47] <abayer_> I wouldn't go so far as to call it slick. It's more "Hey, look, I can copy what the Promoted Builds plugin does!" =)
[18:14:53] <abayer_> What's the bug?
[18:15:24] <jieryn-w> no matter what i set for my post-build action, it always defaults to (*) Run regardless of build result
[18:15:36] <abayer_> Hmmm.
[18:15:52] <jieryn-w> i actually do not want to run m2-extra-steps unless it was (*) Run only if build succeeds or is unstable
[18:16:07] <jieryn-w> i Configure my m2 hudson job
[18:16:09] <jieryn-w> save the changes
[18:16:12] <jieryn-w> and come back into Configure
[18:16:18] <jieryn-w> and it's reset to the 'regardless' choice
[18:16:53] <abayer_> Hmm indeed. I just tried that on my testbed and had no problems - lemme see if that was a bugfix I hadn't committed.
[18:19:23] <abayer_> ...yes, it was. Lemme get that released. =)
[18:20:33] <jieryn-w> you are awesome.
[18:20:40] <jieryn-w> =)
[18:20:45] <abayer_> No, I'm simply acceptable. =)
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[18:35:24] <abayer> It's not in the update center yet, but you can download it directly from https://hudson.dev.java.net/files/documents/2402/138901/m2-extra-steps.hpi.
[18:41:06] <jieryn-w> i don't use the update center anyway
[18:41:15] <abayer> Well, then you're set. =)
[18:45:24] <jieryn-w> seems all you did was update the pom?
[18:45:29] <jieryn-w> i have the full hudson tree in svn
[18:45:35] <jieryn-w> i didn't see any actual code changes :)
[18:45:52] <abayer> Yeah, I'd actually committed the change back in late May, but had forgotten to release it 'til now.
[18:49:14] <jieryn-w> i verify that works for me
[18:49:25] <abayer> =)
[18:49:59] <jieryn-w> thanks :)
[18:50:04] <abayer> np np
[18:51:23] <jieryn-w> ok - final question for a while :)
[18:51:41] <jieryn-w> is there an easy way to activate a particular maven profile when executing inside the hudson environment?
[18:51:50] <jieryn-w> w/out me coding any -P hudson manually
[18:52:01] <abayer> Not that I know of.
[18:52:14] <abayer> So, no, there's probably no easy way. =)
[18:52:54] <jieryn-w> maybe i should activate on env var defined, like HUDSON_HOME
[18:53:08] <abayer> That'd probably work.
[19:12:54] <calculus> is there a solution to sending settings.xml files to slave nodes from the main hudson instance
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[19:36:06] <kikov> hello... why the logout button of hudson doesn't work?
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[19:38:30] <calculus> ooo, how do I get the node names from http://myhudson/label/swarm/api/xml ?
[19:39:10] <calculus> the description field is actually the description of the slave node as opposed to its name
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[20:24:43] <kohsuke> calculus:  <node> needs to expose more information
[20:27:08] <kohsuke> done
[20:41:03] <mrooney> So I think after using maven 2.2.0 from apache my plugin released
[20:41:28] <mrooney> That was about 17 hours ago I think, I wonder when it will show up in Hudson
[20:41:56] <mrooney> although shouldn't there have been some sort of announcement in my RSS
[20:44:20] <jieryn-w> abayer: yo... got another bug :)
[20:44:26] <abayer> hooray!
[20:44:27] <abayer> =)
[20:44:47] <jieryn-w> abayer: well, maybe i shot myself in the foot but....
[20:45:12] <jieryn-w> m2-extra-steps "default" mvn executable is just unpath'd 'mvn' command
[20:45:22] <jieryn-w> i expect the default to be whatever i'm already using for the job
[20:45:59] <abayer> The m2-extra-steps stuff doesn't know anything about the m2 build itself - it's basically a freestyle project grafted onto the side.
[20:46:15] <jieryn-w> wait, does it reuse the same workspace??
[20:46:20] <abayer> Yes.
[20:46:39] <jieryn-w> i dunno
[20:47:00] <abayer> It knows anything that a freestyle project would know - but not Maven-specific things like what Maven install to run, etc.
[20:47:05] <jieryn-w> it would be good to link the m2-extra-steps builder to the one that is being used for the job where we're even allowing extra steps to execute
[20:47:23] <abayer> Yeah, I'm hoping we can get that integrated at the hackathon this weekend.
[20:47:31] <jieryn-w> ok cool
[20:47:59] <jieryn-w> having to update 2 'which maven to execute with' drop downs is a pita for 20+ projects
[20:48:09] <abayer> Ouch.
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[21:19:46] <jieryn-w> i want ot make a bunch of changes in batch to many jobs; can i simply run sed across all of the config.xml's for each job and then force hudson to update itself?
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[21:22:10] <jieryn-w> yes, it seems it is
[21:22:12] <jieryn-w> lovely :)
[21:28:06] <mrooney> haha, nice
[21:28:20] <mrooney> you can also POST project XMLs to Hudson IIRC
[21:28:23] <mrooney> including creating new projects
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[21:42:52] <calculus> thanks kohsuke
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[21:47:00] <duncanmv> [ERROR] svn: OPTIONS of 'https://svn.dev.java.net/svn/hudson/trunk/hudson': authorization failed: Could not authenticate to server: rejected Basic challenge (https://svn.dev.java.net)
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[22:14:49] <kohsuke> duncanmv: I believe it is an issue with --non-interactive
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[22:52:29] <onlyteo> hi ppl, anyone know where to find a good description of the cm synergy scm plugin?
[22:52:49] <onlyteo> been searching around for ages
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[23:02:36] <duncanmv> kohsuke: but I dont have a password :-)
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[23:07:04] <kohsuke> duncanmv: Are you trying to check out
[23:07:05] <kohsuke> ?
[23:07:49] <duncanmv> yes
[23:08:38] <kohsuke> try "guest" with empty password or something
[23:09:01] <kohsuke> I remember this has something to do with gnome-key-ring (or equivalent of OS X) and --non-interactive option interaction
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[23:11:43] <duncanmv> ah now it works
[23:12:55] <duncanmv> can I write a plugin using jruby? :-)
[23:18:37] <rtyler> GLWT :P
[23:18:48] <rtyler> duncanmv: at the hackathon I'm going to fuxor with Jython, you should too! :D
[23:19:00] <duncanmv> rtyler: I want to fix the git plugin
[23:19:10] <duncanmv> but I wonder why I am checking out whole hudson
[23:19:21] <duncanmv> I dont need that for a plugin I guess?
[23:19:44] <rtyler> I don't believe so
[23:20:58] <duncanmv> where can I browse the source of svn and git plugins?
[23:26:05] * rtyler points to the first link in /topic
[23:27:27] <calculus> for the multi-configuration jobs, is there a way to have it build on all nodes with a given label?
[23:27:52] <calculus> say I want to do the same build on all windows boxes
[23:29:24] <rtyler> calculus: are you coming saturday?
[23:29:32] <duncanmv> rtyler: it is not in the source xref :-(
[23:32:12] <calculus> rtyler: yes
[23:32:53] <calculus> oh someone wants me to RSVP
[23:33:03] * rtyler twiddles thumbs and looks innocent
[23:35:44] <calculus> done
[23:35:53] <rtyler> <3
[23:36:12] <calculus> is that what you were going to ask me to do?
[23:36:18] <rtyler> potentially
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[23:37:32] <calculus> I could have slacked another day
[23:56:57] <duncanmv> where is hudson/scm/SubversionSCM.java, can't find it
[23:57:30] <duncanmv> ah, I think I did

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