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[02:25:28] <rtyler> GAHHHHH
[02:25:42] <rtyler> kohsuke: I think we might need to start a "100 papercuts" project for Hudson
[02:25:57] <kohsuke> Sure, go ahead.
[02:26:06] <kohsuke> Good for prioritizing.
[02:26:38] <kohsuke> What's the issue at hand?
[02:26:48] * rtyler continues to hate bugzilla
[02:26:56] <rtyler> there's just a bunch of little things that irritate me :P
[02:27:16] <kohsuke> That's not good.
[02:27:16] <rtyler> multiconfiguration projects: can't use axis with slashes in them for example
[02:27:30] <rtyler> Adding abuild step ,at least in opera, jumps to the top of the page
[02:27:39] <rtyler> bunch of others
[02:27:54] <rtyler> I tend to notice them, and STFU about them because filing tickets is so onerous
[02:28:04] <rtyler> and I'm lazy, of course :)
[02:28:10] <kohsuke> No, those are good points
[02:28:44] <kohsuke> Slash in axis value is somewhat non-trivial, but Opera issue is probably an easy bug
[02:28:46] <kohsuke> Let me see
[02:29:10] <rtyler> kohsuke: it's more a matter it seems of values not being properly urlencoded when generating lihnks
[02:29:29] <kohsuke> URL encoding actually doesn't help because of the way servlet works
[02:29:31] <rtyler> kohsuke: can you create a project for 100 paper cuts? Perhaps that'd be a good hackathon project for me :P
[02:29:37] <kohsuke> I need to escape it into some other things.
[02:30:06] <kohsuke> "a project" ?
[02:30:16] <rtyler> looking at the report page now
[02:30:21] <rtyler> can you define an "issue type"
[02:30:22] <rtyler> ?
[02:30:40] <kohsuke> I think a good thing to do is to decide a keyword to put on those issues
[02:30:52] <kohsuke> So maybe a Wiki page that describes the effort would be in order.
[02:31:00] <rtyler> ah
[02:31:32] <kohsuke> It should have some guideline to avoid having every issue marked, too.
[02:31:50] <kohsuke> You might know of some other projects that do this, that we can copy the template from.
[02:32:09] <rtyler> yeah, the idea comes directly from ubuntu
[02:32:10] <rtyler> https://launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts
[02:32:23] <rtyler> they have a good criteria for profiling bugs as "paper cuts"
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[02:32:46] <kohsuke> Good. Can you create a Wiki page?
[02:32:50] <rtyler> yes
[02:32:58] <rtyler> how does one use a keyword on this bloody report page
[02:33:22] <kohsuke> I'll creqte the query URL
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[02:34:12] <kohsuke> '100papercuts' would do as a tag?
[02:35:24] <rtyler> sure
[02:38:58] <rtyler> well? :P
[02:39:40] <kohsuke> http://hudson-ci.org/100papercuts
[02:39:59] <kohsuke> I nominated one bug to make sure it works
[02:40:40] <rtyler> how do you nominate a bug?
[02:40:45] <rtyler> or can you only do that after filing?
[02:40:54] <kohsuke> by adding '100papercuts' to the 'status whiteboard' section
[02:41:17] <kohsuke> if you go to issue #3933 you'll see it
[02:41:37] <rtyler> right, you can't do this from the enter_bug page
[02:41:38] <rtyler> GAH
[02:41:48] * rtyler starts a bugzilla 10000 paper cuts project as well
[02:41:53] <kohsuke> :-)
[02:42:11] <kohsuke> Yeah, this is bit odd
[02:44:04] <rtyler> http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/HundredPaperCuts
[02:44:07] <rtyler> is that enough?
[02:45:54] <rtyler> Forbidden
[02:45:55] <rtyler> You don't have permission to access /nonav/issues/xml.cgi on this server.
[02:45:57] * rtyler sighs
[02:46:05] <rtyler> fucking java.net
[02:51:30] <mrooney> kohsuke: did you have any idea why a DirectoryBrowserSupport might eat javascript in an iframe?
[02:52:28] <rtyler> it's probably because you haven't RSVPd yet
[02:52:34] <mrooney> oh that might be
[02:52:36] <mrooney> where do I RSVP?
[02:52:54] <rtyler> http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/BayAreaMeetup
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[02:53:14] <kohsuke> rtyler: try removing /nonav
[02:53:39] *** rtyler changes topic to "http://hudson-ci.org | Paste: http://hudson.pastebin.com || Logs: http://echelog.matzon.dk/?hudson || Twitter: http://twitter.com/hudsonci || Bay Area Meetup! http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/BayAreaMeetup"
[02:54:12] <rtyler> kohsuke: that doesn't do it for me
[02:54:15] <rtyler> still 403
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[02:54:31] <rtyler> I was just going to embed the RSS of the list into the wiki page
[02:54:33] <rtyler> whatever I guess
[02:54:41] <mrooney> ta-da!
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[02:55:06] <kohsuke> Oh, let me try
[02:55:31] <rtyler> YAY
[02:55:40] * rtyler gives mrooney a shiny medal
[02:55:55] <kohsuke> How did you even get RSS from the query?
[02:56:13] <rtyler> I assumed that's what they meant by XML
[02:56:25] <kohsuke> No, it's not
[02:56:40] <kohsuke> And I know why xml.cgi doesn't work
[02:56:50] <kohsuke> they disabled it because they thought it's adding too much load to the system.
[02:57:35] <rtyler> ha
[02:59:05] <kohsuke> Is java.net down?
[02:59:20] <rtyler> I'm still using it
[03:00:07] <rtyler> at least the issues bit
[03:00:52] <kohsuke> OK, it's just really really slow
[03:01:22] <rtyler> kohsuke: https://hudson.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1179 I nominate this as a paper cut
[03:01:25] <rtyler> what say ye?
[03:01:38] <kohsuke> Sounds good
[03:02:02] <rtyler> FWIW, using criteria: "the presence of which makes Hudson more difficult or less pleasant to use,"
[03:03:54] <rtyler> I'm going through some of these ENHANC issues, some noticable things in here that have bugged me :P
[03:04:30] <rtyler> something along these lines: https://hudson.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=1181
[03:04:37] <rtyler> although I'm not sure if that's the right solution
[03:06:04] <rtyler> kohsuke: do you mind if I cross post this to users@ and dev@?
[03:06:46] <kohsuke> please go ahead
[03:07:20] <kohsuke> tell them we only accept the first 100 bugs so better hurry :-)
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[03:10:42] <mrooney> oh hudson mailing lists, I need to join these
[03:11:02] <rtyler> FAIL
[03:11:04] <rtyler> ;D
[03:17:26] <rtyler> done and done
[03:18:46] <rtyler> kohsuke: there's a shit ton of bugs open O_O
[03:18:52] <kohsuke> yes
[03:18:57] <rtyler> GET BACK TO WORK! ;)
[03:19:09] <rtyler> there's gotta be a hundred paper cuts here, easy
[03:19:36] <kohsuke> We should also ask people to volunteer to fix them
[03:19:49] <rtyler> feel free to follow up ;)
[03:19:55] <rtyler> I made the developer point in the mail
[03:20:25] <rtyler> I think if some of them you sat down and added a comment or two saying
[03:20:33] <rtyler> "yeah, this should be aroudn $here or $there"
[03:20:51] <rtyler> then that will help folks get involved that don't want to grok the whole bloody tree ;)
[03:21:21] <rtyler> even just files involved with what makes pieces tick is immensely useful
[03:21:26] <rtyler> for the casual types like meself ;)
[03:25:39] <kohsuke> yeah, I'd be happy to do that.
[03:27:27] <rtyler> bbiab, need to ride home from the office
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[06:55:47] <Lewisham> has anyone got any experience with crap4j?
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[07:06:29] <Lewisham> oh, I got it
[07:06:31] <Lewisham> yay, it works!
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[18:27:35] <johannes1> HI, i try to run the latest hudson war under tomcat6.018 (not the tomcat from the repository, i downloaded my self and its working under fedora 11) and ubuntu with jdk 1.6.0_07-b06, but i when i try to open hudson on the browser, i get his exception:
[18:27:35] <johannes1> java.lang.NullPointerException 	hudson.security.csrf.CrumbFilter.getCrumbIssuer(CrumbFilter.java:38) 	hudson.security.csrf.CrumbFilter.doFilter(CrumbFilter.java:45) 	hudson.security.HudsonFilter.doFilter(HudsonFilter.java:153) note The full stack trace of the root cause is available in the Apache Tomcat/6.0.18 logs.
[18:29:43] <johannes1> this is the full excetion form the logs:
[18:29:43] <johannes1> SCHWERWIEGEND: Servlet.service() for servlet Stapler threw exception
[18:29:43] <johannes1> java.lang.NullPointerException
[18:29:43] <johannes1>  at hudson.security.csrf.CrumbFilter.getCrumbIssuer(CrumbFilter.java:38)
[18:29:43] <johannes1>  at hudson.security.csrf.CrumbFilter.doFilter(CrumbFilter.java:45)
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[18:31:03] <johannes1> can someone help me?
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[18:34:12] <johannes1> http://hudson.pastebin.com/m199d9058
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