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[01:23:50] <joakime> latest hudson.war in-app update doesn't startup.  - http://paste2.org/p/311591
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[02:36:04] <rtyler> kohsuke: still lurking about?
[02:36:10] <kohsuke> yes
[02:36:14] <rtyler> fired up my Mac slave at home for the first time in a while...
[02:36:46] <rtyler> http://hudson.pastebin.com/m2b0af58c
[02:36:53] <rtyler> this is with the 1.313 agent, upgrading now
[02:38:25] <kohsuke> I'd check the master side of the log file
[02:40:10] <rtyler> http://hudson.pastebin.com/d73c74ea2
[02:40:11] <rtyler> yeah, odd
[02:40:18] <rtyler> why's it showing up server side o_O
[02:40:20] <rtyler> with a client error
[02:41:02] <kohsuke> I guess you could argue about it, but generally Hudson does everything in the master.
[02:42:26] * rtyler can't tell if that's an invitation or not ;)
[02:44:39] <rtyler> admc: ping
[02:45:05] <kohsuke> Maybe I could have the master send one last command to the slave to print out why it's cutting the connection.
[02:45:39] * rtyler is just giving you a hard time FWIW :)
[02:47:27] <rtyler> kohsuke: there's no reset password function is there?
[02:47:32] <rtyler> with the built in auth
[02:47:39] <admc> rtyler: sup
[02:47:41] <kohsuke> I believe there is.
[02:48:14] <rtyler> oh weird, my login was failing because I had the "remember me" button ticked
[02:48:41] <rtyler> admc: care to set up a Windows VM for the avocado Hudson instance?
[02:48:58] <rtyler> admc: my next version of Cheetah is going to have proper Windows support , but I've not a way to test or create packages
[02:49:15] <admc> what do you want it called
[02:49:28] <rtyler> admc: onion
[02:49:52] <rtyler> kohsuke: I appreciate the direct link to the slave.jar on the slave node page onw btw :)
[02:50:12] <rtyler> admc: FWIW kb@ doesn't care
[02:50:20] <admc> cool
[02:50:24] <rtyler> I already have papaya running our Windmill/Hudosn jobs
[02:52:02] <admc> copying
[02:52:28] <rtyler> admc: does your slave VM image contain mingw?
[02:52:55] <admc> nope, but I have cygwin installed, so it won't be hard to add
[02:53:35] <admc> you mean you dont wanna use the .net compiler?
[02:53:58] <rtyler> relying on MS compilers is lame
[02:54:01] <admc> :)
[02:54:20] <rtyler> admc: http://gist.github.com/142234
[02:55:11] <admc> not bad
[02:55:37] <admc> having someone else do the work never hurts
[02:55:45] <rtyler> he offered
[02:55:49] <rtyler> I lack windows boxens
[02:56:15] <admc> ah, yeah that turns out to be a problem when testing your code in windows :/
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[11:19:21] <madsdyd> Hi all. I am looking for advice in speeding up the loading of the hudson views. So far we have removed the "weather", but still, loading a view with approx. 50 projects, take up to 5 seconds. Any advice on how to improve the response times in the GUI?
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[11:22:10] <dirkD> how does Hudson determine the "estimated remaining time"?
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[12:29:08] <madsdyd> Hi all. I am looking for advice in speeding up the loading of the hudson views. So far we have removed the "weather", but still, loading a view with approx. 50 projects, take up to 5 seconds. Any advice on how to improve the response times in the GUI?
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[13:02:11] <root> hello guys
[13:02:14] <root> anyone here
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[13:02:20] <Guest95113> i have a question regarding hudson
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[13:03:18] <Netherlands> my hudsons keeps on failing when building the software
[13:03:25] <Netherlands> it says failed with status 137
[13:03:49] <Netherlands> can someone please help me
[13:27:55] <dirkD> is the wiki down?
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[13:57:11] <madsdyd> dirkD does not seem so
[13:58:59] <dirkD> madsdyd: hmm.... i can telnet it fine
[13:59:17] <dirkD> but when using a web browser it just keeps loading
[14:00:10] <dirkD> nvm, it's coming back slowly
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[15:19:42] <dirkD> i am trying to 'compile' a .hpi from the sources of bzr-hudson, how to do that?
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[15:40:03] <madsdyd> Hi there. Is there a way to create a view in the gui, that shows all currently failing builds?
[16:53:53] <madsdyd> damn
[16:54:14] <madsdyd> Is there a way to NOT having hudson sort the projects in queue in alphanumeric state?
[16:54:41] <madsdyd> It sort of makes it hard to control the build order of projects that trigger a number of other projects.
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[16:58:25] * madsdyd thinks the build queue would appear to suck
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[17:50:41] <madsdyd> how do people implement nightly builds in hudson?
[17:50:57] * madsdyd wonders if that use case is less common than he thought
[17:52:17] <decriptor> madsdyd: I just have a job that is scheduled for 6 my time I think
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[18:52:32] <madsdyd> decriptor: how about deps?
[18:52:51] <madsdyd> and, do you clean them first?
[18:53:09] <madsdyd> I have the problem that every thing gets build multiple times, and fails the first couple of times.
[18:53:34] <madsdyd> Or rather: I have a job that adds them all to the queue in the right order, but the queue appears to order them alhabetically(!!!) which breaks my builds
[18:56:18] <glass-eye> if I have a trigger of one build that causes a parameterized build to start, can I set the values for the parameters somehow?
[18:56:57] <abayer> http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Parameterized+Trigger+Plugin?
[18:57:00] <abayer> http://wiki.hudson-ci.org/display/HUDSON/Parameterized+Trigger+Plugin rather
[18:57:05] <abayer> ? shouldn't be in the URL. =)
[18:57:31] <glass-eye> thanks
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[18:58:05] <decriptor> madsdyd: my stuff just builds as it comes in right now.  And then my nightly grabs all the successful builds and publishes them
[18:58:38] <glass-eye> hmmm, I'm guessing this won't work with the join plugin
[18:59:04] <glass-eye> I'll just create multiple jobs
[19:05:04] <madsdyd> decriptor: I have about 50 projects, and multiple internal dependencies.
[19:05:22] <madsdyd> and, it kind of makes me mad that the queue seems to reorder modules
[19:05:37] <madsdyd> because it bases its decision on stuff that is not current
[19:05:39] <decriptor> I don't have that many hard deps
[19:05:53] <madsdyd> can I tell hudson to change the state of a build?
[19:06:00] <decriptor> though I do have to build/compile the compiler in order to build/compile our project :)
[19:06:09] <madsdyd> decriptor: hehe, yes
[19:06:28] <madsdyd> so, you would probably be annoyned if hudson decided to build the projects before the compiler.
[19:06:32] <madsdyd> Which is sort of what I am
[19:06:37] <madsdyd> (annoyed)
[19:06:48] <decriptor> not really
[19:07:01] <madsdyd> ?
[19:07:05] <decriptor> if something changes or we patch the compiler we just run that
[19:07:21] <decriptor> the only reason we build the compiler is because we are following trunk
[19:07:36] <madsdyd> yes, I understand that, but in my case, I need to clean out everything as part of the nightly build. So, the compiler is sort-of not present
[19:07:43] <decriptor> so 99% of the time we don't need to patch it
[19:07:44] <madsdyd> if hudson decides to reorder the projects
[19:08:06] <decriptor> madsdyd: you could create a job that cools everything in order
[19:08:10] <decriptor> that would probably work
[19:08:15] <madsdyd> cools?
[19:08:18] * madsdyd is very interessted
[19:08:22] <madsdyd> I do have the order
[19:08:26] <decriptor> there are urls in hudson that you can hit that triggers all kinds of things
[19:08:34] <madsdyd> cools?
[19:08:45] <decriptor> kohsuke: what is the url for the job triggers?
[19:08:50] <decriptor> (if that made sense :)
[19:08:54] <madsdyd> I have used a single job that triggers the jobs in the right order
[19:09:03] <decriptor> madsdyd: oh
[19:09:11] <madsdyd> however, hudson happily reorders the jobs in the queue...
[19:09:11] <decriptor> that's what I'd do then
[19:09:22] <madsdyd> It appears it reorders the jobs
[19:09:27] <decriptor> oh I see what you are saying... you could add a delay to them
[19:09:31] <madsdyd> based on some sort of internal "I know what you want/need"
[19:09:37] <madsdyd> the grace period?
[19:09:40] <madsdyd> delay?
[19:09:42] <decriptor> yes no
[19:09:43] <madsdyd> please keep talking
[19:09:45] <madsdyd> :-)
[19:10:12] <decriptor> so, if you use a shell script, you could schedule the job, sleep X seconds, do the next etc
[19:10:25] <madsdyd> decriptor: not really.
[19:10:35] <madsdyd> because, when the job is done
[19:10:35] <decriptor> won't fly? :
[19:10:37] <decriptor> :(
[19:10:41] <madsdyd> it will trigger other jobs
[19:10:43] <decriptor> ho
[19:10:44] <decriptor> oh
[19:10:46] <madsdyd> and hudson will reorder them
[19:10:51] <decriptor> you have build triggers setup
[19:10:55] <madsdyd> yes.
[19:11:04] <madsdyd> We have like 5 levels of deps
[19:11:09] <madsdyd> + externals
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[19:11:20] <madsdyd> (that is, software we did not write our selves)
[19:11:42] <decriptor> madsdyd: gotcha
[19:11:59] <madsdyd> I basically want to be able to "buildstrap" a bunch of interdependent projects, but hudson sort of gets in the way, when it reorders the projects in the queue
[19:12:15] <madsdyd> I have tried to find docs on how/why it reorders in the queue, but so-far have been unable
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[19:13:43] <decriptor> madsdyd: that seems odd that it reorders it
[19:13:50] <madsdyd> decriptor: Indeed!
[19:13:55] <decriptor> kohsuke would know more about that I think
[19:14:03] <madsdyd> I might be mistaken, however, it does *sure* seems like it reorder alpha
[19:14:08] * madsdyd needs to prepare diner
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[19:20:20] <ldsjohn316> it was doing that for me, reordering all my stuff
[19:20:40] <ldsjohn316> I sovled it by having each layer of dependencys only trigger one thing
[19:21:03] <ldsjohn316> so if you had 3 things that depend on 2 things, like A B and C depends on D and E
[19:21:15] <ldsjohn316> I have E trigger D, wich Triggers A B and C
[19:21:44] <ldsjohn316> A B and C all randomly decide what order to build in
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[19:56:28] <madsdyd_dinner> ldsjohn316: so, you did not find a way to stop it from reordering?
[19:56:35] * madsdyd_dinner is still eating, btw
[20:49:57] <rtyler> om nom nom nom
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[21:40:37] * madsdyd_dinner pokes rtyler
[21:40:50] <madsdyd_dinner> "help! I've fallen and I can't get up"
[21:50:02] <madsdyd_dinner> Anyone know basic information about when, why and how Hudson reorders jobs in the queue?
[21:59:34] * madsdyd_dinner cries softly into his keyboard
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[22:04:19] * madsdyd_dinner thinks this is really his problem: http://www.nabble.com/-Issue-2736--New---Triggered-builds-have-inefficient-build-order-for-Maven2-projects-td21051662.html
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[22:44:08] <madsdyd_dinner> or this
[22:44:12] <madsdyd_dinner> https://hudson.dev.java.net/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=2072
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[22:57:33] <rtyler> wait
[22:57:34] <rtyler> what
[22:57:37] <rtyler> huh?
[22:57:41] <rtyler> WHAT'S GOING ON HERE
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[23:03:04] <madsdyd_work> rtyler: it seems to me, that hudson in the queue, reorders my jobs as it feels like
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[23:03:16] <madsdyd_work> Which makes it really hard to implement a "bootstrap" ordering
[23:03:33] <madsdyd_work> At least if hudson thinks all the status'es are green/blue
[23:05:17] * madsdyd_work is giving up for today
[23:06:33] <rtyler> madsdyd_work: perhaps an email to dev@
[23:20:01] <madsdyd_work> rtyler: yes, but I found these bugs, and it seems there is no readily available solution & I am leaving on three weeks vacation tomorrow, so I'll follow up on it when I get back. Just wanted to have this running while I was away.
[23:20:39] <rtyler> madsdyd_work: you should definitely jot down your notes before you leave
[23:20:44] <rtyler> lest you forget all your hard work ;)
[23:21:12] <madsdyd_work> rtyler: btw: do you know of a way to speed up the display of views? We have removed the "weather", which improves things somewhat, but it is still quite slow with 50-100 projects.
[23:21:27] <rtyler> madsdyd_work: MORE CPUS!
[23:21:33] <madsdyd_work> rtyler: not to worry, I autogenerate the configs from a script, and the script contains all my findings.
[23:21:34] <rtyler> (read: no)
[23:21:39] <madsdyd_work> rtyler on the web interface?
[23:21:42] * madsdyd_work checks
[23:22:30] <rtyler> Manage > System Configuration > [x] Enable Flux Capacitor
[23:22:44] <madsdyd_work> its got 4 amd 2Ghz to play on
[23:22:57] <madsdyd_work> and its not doing anything
[23:23:02] <madsdyd_work> thats the master
[23:23:06] <rtyler> madsdyd_work: it's more than likely the disk access
[23:23:11] <rtyler> Hudson is storing this data in XML files IIRC
[23:23:12] <madsdyd_work> The slaves are running on 8 cores
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[23:25:07] <madsdyd_work> rtyler: does this mean anything to you: /dev/mapper/plan_home on /home type xfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,logbsize=256k)
[23:25:10] <madsdyd_work> xfs?
[23:25:39] * madsdyd_work worries that this is actually SAN mounted
[23:25:53] <madsdyd_work> thanks for pointing that out, I'll try to move it to something else tomorrow
[23:29:44] <rtyler> xfs! people are really using xfs!?
[23:33:54] * madsdyd_work is embarrassed
[23:33:56] <rtyler> madsdyd_work: is it really on the san?
[23:34:02] <madsdyd_work> Its not my server! Somebody gave it to me
[23:34:05] <madsdyd_work> ...
[23:34:09] <madsdyd_work> it *might* just be
[23:34:10] <rtyler> sketchy
[23:34:18] <madsdyd_work> we have a lot of stuff on SAN
[23:34:29] <madsdyd_work> somebody might have decided that this was a suitable place to put it
[23:34:40] <madsdyd_work> I'll look into it tomorrow.
[23:34:43] <madsdyd_work> Thanks for helping out
[23:34:47] <rtyler> tomorrow?
[23:34:50] <rtyler> quitter!
[23:34:56] * madsdyd_work hands rtyler another fancy medal
[23:35:04] <rtyler> YAY
[23:35:13] <madsdyd_work> well, it is 23:38 here, and my kids will be jumping up and down on me in about 5.5 hours
[23:35:40] <madsdyd_work> Also, it seems our VPN cisco concentrator has become drunk, and refuses to carry my vpnc for more than 5 minutes at a time
[23:35:51] <rtyler> openvpn FTW!
[23:35:52] <ldsjohn316> I hate cisco vpn
[23:36:07] <madsdyd_work> ldsjohn316: lets make a facebook group!
[23:36:17] <ldsjohn316> I dont use facebook
[23:36:22] <rtyler> actually, anything other than IPSec can suck my <EXPLITIVE DELETED<
[23:36:26] <madsdyd_work> ldsjohn316: i was kidding... :-)
[23:36:30] <ldsjohn316> I run my own blog, and dont post in that often enough
[23:36:32] <ldsjohn316> :-D
[23:37:12] <madsdyd_work> rtyler: oh, things would be different, if I had my way at work. Lots of things are good though, but some things just sucks so bad it makes it hard to breathe. This fucking cisco concentrator is one of them
[23:37:23] <madsdyd_work> Oh well, gotta sleep before I get a cardiac arrest.
[23:37:25] <madsdyd_work> night all
[23:37:46] <ldsjohn316> would you be handcuffing that cardiac?
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[23:43:46] <maxb> Hi, how can I arrange for a java system property to be set in the maven agent JVM that hudson launches?
[23:46:09] <maxb> ah.... MAVEN_OPTS configurable per build.... is there any way to do that for the entire node?
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