[00:00:46] <briandealwis> Dark-Magician: have you been able to get the other examples to work?
[00:01:18] <Dark-Magician> Well the top example is default in the docshare plugin
[00:01:29] <Dark-Magician> I had not attemped any other examples
[00:01:38] <briandealwis> Dark-Magician: stupid question, but you're certain you have the docshare plugin in your launch configuration, right?  And you're certain it's being loaded and installed?
[00:01:56] <Dark-Magician> Yes, it does work for .txt
[00:02:10] <Dark-Magician> and I have tested that with the remote computer
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[00:03:29] <briandealwis> Dark-Magician: sorry, you've exhausted my miserable set of questions.  Sounds like you should file a bug against ECF.
[00:03:56] <Dark-Magician> There was a forum entry of someone like 'I got it!' and they dropped off the flat earth without explaining how...
[00:04:19] <Dark-Magician> for specifically pydev
[00:05:17] <Dark-Magician> Following that example I'm sure I the ContextID correct, but I think my <dynamic class="" id=""> must be wrong
[00:06:18] <briandealwis> Dark-Magician: the dynamic class looks to be fixed.  The id looks like it can be a random string.
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[00:10:38] <briandealwis> Dark-Magician: what contextId are you using?  I have an old version of pydev installed, and it uses org.python.pydev.ui.editor.scope
[00:11:27] <Dark-Magician> Using the current Pydev, and Alt-Shift-F1 I get: org.python.pydev.editor.PythonEditor.EditorContext and #PyEditContext
[00:13:51] <Dark-Magician> Maybe it isnt the PyEditContext..
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[00:16:10] <rcjsuen> Dark-Magician: Did you try using the string in front of the # symbol?
[00:16:32] <Dark-Magician> ?
[00:16:55] <rcjsuen> org.python.pydev.editor.PythonEditor.EditorContext
[00:17:20] <Dark-Magician> Yea I used that in one, like the example at the wiki showed
[00:17:51] <Dark-Magician> Pretty much C/Ped the wiki, and replaced the 2 locationURI
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[00:18:49] <Dark-Magician> erm, CP'd the topone for #PyEditContext and the lower one for org.python.pydev.edi...
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[01:28:00] <Dark-Magician> Well I don't know why its not including at all...
[01:32:40] <rcjsuen> Dark-Magician: Maybe you should post your plugin.xml content back to the forum thread and see if others know what's going on.
[01:33:26] <Dark-Magician> Yea, I'll go do that ^^
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[02:40:56] <Dark-Magician> Would people believe it a safe idea to post the XML entry within the forum post?
[02:41:16] <nitind> why not?
[02:41:27] <Dark-Magician> Forum rules, I don't know
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[02:43:29] <rcjsuen> well just don't post proprietary code and then come back and complain :)
[02:44:11] <Dark-Magician> Nah, nothin proprietary, just trying to link these 2 editors xD
[02:44:37] <Dark-Magician> Plus if it leads to a solution for Pydev users the community betters :D
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[03:42:46] <NormHome> is there any way to tell which version of eclipse i downloaded for mac? i.e. 32 vs 64 bit, carbon vs cocoa
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[03:42:51] <NormHome> i can't remembe r :)
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[04:19:36] <FauxFaux> NormHome: ldd </linux answer>
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[04:22:20] <NormHome> FauxFaux: good call, mac's equivalent is otool, which shows i'm running coca
[04:22:23] <NormHome> err, cocoa
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[07:20:28] * FauxFaux arrrghs at Eclipse being nuts.  It can't decide if this enum is declared or not, despite it being in the same package.  Been doing it on and off on different machines for a while.
[07:20:51] <FauxFaux> Code goes all red and refuses to compile, but no problems are reported and it runs fine.
[07:23:51] <FauxFaux> s/compile/complete/
[07:24:00] <progesterone> Question: Mouse click is not responding on some buttons like 'Next' and 'Add' in the dialogue box. How can I diagnose it?
[07:24:17] <FauxFaux> ~ progesterone faq
[07:24:24] <FauxFaux> progesterone: ~faq
[07:24:24] <Arbalest> Please see the FAQs http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs
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[07:24:35] <FauxFaux> Hint: It's gtk being poo.
[07:25:47] <progesterone> FauxFaux I've googled, and I don't think the solution will be in FAQ.
[07:26:05] <FauxFaux> Unlucky.
[07:26:55] * FauxFaux waits for it to load so he can check nobody has removed it. :
[07:27:18] <FauxFaux> Eclipse buttons in dialogs and other places are not working for me if I click them with the mouse. I also cannot see anything in the tree when I try to install updates. What's going on?
[07:29:27] <progesterone> FauxFaux huh ... are you getting very similar problem?
[07:29:44] <FauxFaux> progesterone: No, that's copied from the FAQ. :P
[07:30:35] <progesterone> FauxFaux Where is it in FAQ?
[07:30:53] <FauxFaux> I'd've thought you'd've been able to find it given the title...
[07:31:07] <FauxFaux> Did you not try opening the above URLs?
[07:31:59] <progesterone> FauxFaux I swear I did.
[07:32:38] <FauxFaux> If it's actually returning different content for you than it is for I then that's certainly an interesting situation worthy of investigation!
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[07:35:28] <progesterone> FauxFaux Oh I found what you're saying. I thought IRC_FAQ is for FAQ regarding using IRC and so I opened everything except that one. :P
[07:35:52] <progesterone> FauxFaux Thanks a lot.
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[11:36:15] <charnel> Hi Anyone used the BlackBerry JDE Plug-in for Eclipse in Ubuntu ? Does it work ?
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[12:24:45] <sebrock> After I ran updates my subclipse does not work anymore
[12:24:51] <sebrock> although it worked fine before...
[12:25:24] <erdal> did you try -clean?
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[12:25:40] <sebrock> I'm on a mac. It complains about JavaHL. Any clues, as I said it worked before update and should work after. I havnt changed any libraries.
[12:25:51] <sebrock> clean?
[12:26:00] <erdal> i see
[12:26:14] <erdal> you have to provide/install a svn connector
[12:26:22] <erdal> or select another
[12:27:17] <erdal> first, have a look at the "SVN Connectors" tab on the preferences pages (Team > SVN)
[12:27:49] <sebrock> It worked before update, I havnt changed anything of that
[12:28:12] <sebrock> I'll check hold on
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[12:28:42] <erdal> the update might have invalidated the settings
[12:29:14] <sebrock> this is what shows on a popup: http://www.pastebin.ca/1831658
[12:29:39] <sebrock> but as I have not removed anything they should still be installed as it worked before update
[12:30:13] <erdal> subversive provides a list of installed svn connectors, not sure how subclipse handels this
[12:32:34] <sebrock> I changed the interface and now it's not complaining anymore
[12:32:39] <sebrock> seems to work
[12:32:42] <sebrock> thanks for the help
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[12:36:50] <MaximLevitsky> Is it possible to tell eclipse to index external header/source directory, so it will find references to functions declared there?
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[12:49:36] <MaximLevitsky> Or in other word, how to make indexer see external include files, other that these in /usr/include ?
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[12:56:43] <MaximLevitsky> nobody?
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[13:02:01] <MaximLevitsky> thanks
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[13:05:25] <gnot> hi all. i was wondering if it is possible to create a template of a project which will contain a basic structure of directories and files.
[13:05:38] <gnot> i am very new to eclipse
[13:07:25] <gnot> as i see it i have to create the structure outside eclipse and then do an import. Sorry if what i ask is obvious, but i ve spent quite some time while trying to figure this particular thing out
[13:08:34] <erdal> why do you have to create the structure outside?
[13:09:15] <gnot> erdal: i cannot find a way to create it within eclipse.
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[13:09:32] <erdal> there is no "New > Folder"?
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[13:16:11] <gnot> erdal: sorry i don't see how this can help me achieve what i need :/
[13:16:59] <erdal> you can create directories and files using the New > Folder|File context menu
[13:17:00] <gnot> to give you an example:
[13:17:36] <rcjsuen> FauxFaux: fun convo you had with progesterone
[13:18:00] <gnot> i need to create a django project. i need to setup some templates which i will be able to use from the New-> wizzard.
[13:18:35] <gnot> so that all the needed files are created with the project creation. if it can do variable substitution, it would be great too
[13:19:07] <gnot> currently i do this with a custom script. All i ask is if it is possible to do from within eclipse
[13:19:32] <erdal> you are asking for some kind of scripting within eclipse?
[13:20:52] <erdal> you could integrate your custom script by calling it using the "External Launcher", i guess
[13:21:23] <erdal> sorry, it is called "External Tools"
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[13:30:07] *** rcjsuen changes topic to " Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org) - Eclipse 3.5.2 and Galileo SR2 have been released! Eclipse 3.6M5 (201001291300) and Helios M5 has been declared! Check the FAQ for solutions to your Eclipse-related issues at http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ and blog about all things Eclipse at http://www.planeteclipse.org/"
[13:30:24] <rcjsuen> FauxFaux: Maybe this slight topic change will compel people to read the FAQ instead of not clicking on it.
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[13:31:51] <gnot> erdal: thanks. that might be the solution, but i am not sure yet. anyway this is not a big problem for me, but it would be nice if there was a straightforward method to create project templates in eclipse/pydev
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[13:33:00] <rcjsuen> gnot: No there is no project templating support from Eclipse. I cannot speak for PyDev.
[13:33:09] <rcjsuen> This gets asked about once a month I guess.
[13:37:36] <gnot> rcjsuen: thanks. would PDE (http://www.eclipse.org/pde/) be of any help with this task?  For example, i found this document: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-eclipse-pde/?S_TACT=105AGX01&S_CMP=LP    Could this be the solution?
[13:38:40] <rcjsuen> that's not really what you want
[13:38:48] <rcjsuen> that's for building Eclipse plug-ins
[13:39:00] <gnot> rcjsuen: ah ok :)
[13:39:11] <rcjsuen> for generating simple plug-in projects
[13:39:15] <rcjsuen> for ppl to get started
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[13:48:07] <HARIBABU> CDT: how can i set enumratedOptionValue command programatically (option -> enumaratedOptionValue)
[13:49:23] <nullix> hi all, sorry to bother you. i have problems with eclipse 3.4.2 where all my java projects have no builder anymore "Missing builder or.eclipse.jdt.core.javabuilder". It might be related to fedora core 11 update but i am not sure.
[13:50:02] <nullix> those projects were working for month previously, so something changed in eclipse-wide configuration
[13:50:26] <nullix> project were working yesterday ...
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[13:57:45] <gnot> erdal, rcjsuen: thanks for  the info. see ya
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[13:59:57] <rcjsuen> nullix: you either a) have problems with your .project files and/or b) have problems with your Java tooling
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[14:07:10] <nullix> rcjsuen: i thing i screwed my eclipse environment when trying to install an old plugin for tapestry support, i will reinstall eclipse
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[14:41:40] <giul> I'm having a weird crash with org.eclipse.swt, JVM segfaults on a simple "new Image(display, path)"
[14:41:46] <giul> here's the crashlog: http://pastebin.com/THa99btU
[14:41:51] <giul> anybody have a clue?
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[14:43:41] <rcjsuen> Nope
[14:43:54] <rcjsuen> I suggest you make a small snippet, make a Display, make an Image, see if it crashes?
[14:44:18] <giul> no, it doesn't, it displays other images before than that
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[14:45:05] <giul> on a different window though
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[14:45:30] <giul> but it shouldn't have anything to do with that, I guess
[14:46:14] <rcjsuen> "other images" is not the same as that one image though, no?
[14:46:17] <rcjsuen> Is it always the same image that dies?
[14:47:00] <giul> no, it crashes on every image I give
[14:47:19] <giul> but still, Image depends only on the display (and I checked that's ok) and on the path
[14:47:29] <giul> so I'm kinda lost
[14:49:24] <rcjsuen> so what you mean is
[14:49:31] <rcjsuen> at some point in your application when rendering an image, it dies
[14:49:42] <rcjsuen> as you claim other images are rendered appropriately
[14:49:44] <rcjsuen> so this is completely random
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[14:50:24] <giul> it's not really random as it crashes always on the same point, no matter what image I tell him to load
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[14:51:33] <giul> but before than that point it loads other images (through the same display) just fine
[14:52:08] <rcjsuen> You could try using a different constructor so SWT doesn't ask GDK to load the file from disk.
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[14:57:30] <giul> I tried loading the image through an InputStream and passing the stream to the Image constructor
[14:57:33] <giul> in this way it works
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[14:59:22] <rcjsuen> well then
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[15:00:36] <giul> doesn't really make sense though, I can just assume it's a bug somewhere deep in SWT/GTK :)
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[15:11:54] <illio> I need to include a services folder in a .jar so that ServiceLoader can use the jar .. Is it possible to make Eclipse export a jar with this structure for me?
[15:12:15] <rcjsuen> I don't see why not.
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[15:12:44] <illio> rcjsuen, how would one go about doing that?
[15:12:52] <rcjsuen> Can't you do that through the export wizard?
[15:13:27] <illio> Normally when exporting to jar, you just choose the class and get the option of creating your own Manifest file.. I couldn't find anything that looked like creating the structure for the ServiceLoader
[15:14:16] <illio> rcjsuen, Oh I think I know how to do it :-) Gonna test that..
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[15:37:22] <paulweb515> illio: you should just be able to create the equivalent directories for the services
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[15:42:13] <illio> I can create the directory "services" fine, but when exported it doesn't get placed inside META-INF as it should.. it gets placed in the root ...
[15:43:36] * rcjsuen didn't think people ever put additional folders into META-INF/
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[15:46:23] <hAnton> Hello !
[15:47:08] <hAnton> I'm in some kind of trouble here, i'm using RSE to connect to my FTP and so modify my files directly on the ftp, the thing is, I made a new FTP connexion, specifying my host (mediaplan.ovh.net), and he ask for my login/passwd
[15:47:38] <hAnton> it work, the connexion say ok, but then, it's not listing AT ALL the files on my ftp, I have some "My Home" "Root"
[15:47:45] <hAnton> And it's "Pending..." to list -_-
[15:47:50] <hAnton> What am i doing wrong ?
[15:47:51] <hAnton> thanks
[15:48:39] <briandealwis> illio: this may be a stupid question, but you did place your services folder inside META-INF in your project, right?
[15:50:14] <illio> briandealwis, yes.. but it throws it the same place anyway.. no matter if I let it be in the META-INF folder or not
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[15:52:46] <illio> Wuhu .. made it work. Apparently the error was with what some guy in #java said.. He said to add the folder to the build path.. If I do that it doesn't work.. As long as I don't do that, the export JAR wizard figures out it needs to take META-INF with it and places everything correctly
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[16:03:37] <hAnton> No one for my FTP/RSE problem ? =s
[16:17:02] <briandealwis> hAnton: I've never heard of RSE :-( so this is pretty generic steps.  Can you get a file listing using other FTP clients (e.g., web browser, command-line ftp client)?  Can you change whether the RSE FTP uses passive or active mode?
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[16:28:50] <flyff> hi
[16:29:27] <flyff> I just installed c/c++  eclipse
[16:29:40] <flyff> I have a problem in running my code
[16:29:58] <flyff> the problem seems with my include statement
[16:30:23] <flyff> does anyone know why this occurs ??
[16:30:29] <flyff> help me please
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[16:39:06] <bltNoTomato> i'm havign difficulty installing PDT. I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 with 3.5.1 Eclipse. I'm also unable to install web tools
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[16:46:23] <briandealwis> flyff: more details would help.  What is "running my code"?  compilation errors?  Have you checked your include paths?  Have you checked the ~cdt-faq?
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[16:46:37] <briandealwis> Ok, my shortcut-fu is lacking: http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT/User/FAQ#I_installed_a_new_version_of_my_compiler_but_old_include_paths_of_old_compiler_are_still_there_under_.22Paths_and_Symbols.22_in_project_properties._I_cannot_get_rid_of_them.21_What_do_I_edit_to_remove_the_old_paths_by_hand.3F
[16:48:02] <briandealwis> bltNoTomato: ditto: what are your difficulties?  Have you checked the FAQ?  (http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ)
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[16:52:00] <flyff> check include paths ?
[16:52:03] <flyff> what does it mean ?
[16:52:27] <flyff> should I create a folder called include to put libraries ?
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[16:53:17] <bltNoTomato> briandealwis, thanks. Ilooked over that again. I've been trying to follow these directions: http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/Installation#Eclipse_3.5_.2F_Galileo_.2F_PDT_2.2
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[16:54:48] <bltNoTomato> I've added both locations and tried the install part. it's failing saying i need dependancies
[16:54:55] <flyff> I got this error message
[16:54:56] <flyff> **** Build of configuration Default for project helloworld ****
[16:54:56] <flyff> (Cannot run program "make": Launching failed)
[16:55:42] <briandealwis> bltNoTomato: which dependencies?
[16:55:58] <briandealwis> flyff: read over the rest of the CDT FAQ, specifically looking for "make"
[16:57:25] <bltNoTomato> briandealwis: http://pastebin.com/wLpKBQq0
[16:57:39] <rcjsuen> bltNoTomato: How did you install Eclipse
[16:57:43] * rcjsuen guesses from the repos.
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[16:58:06] <bltNoTomato> rcjsuen, using apt-get (running ubuntu 9.10)
[16:58:14] <flyff> where is CDT FAQ ?
[16:58:15] <xbb> hello
[16:58:16] <rcjsuen> bltNoTomato: Do you even have the Galileo site in your combo box
[16:58:22] <rcjsuen> ~cdt-faq
[16:58:23] <Arbalest> Looking for all of the answers related to CDT, or just most of them?  Check out the mighty CDT-FAQ (http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT/User/FAQ).
[16:58:31] <bltNoTomato> rcjsuen, no it's not in there
[16:58:45] <flyff> what's combo box ?
[16:58:50] <xbb> is it possible to change text field's tooltip to a custom one?
[16:59:33] <briandealwis> xbb: Text.setToolTipText(String)
[16:59:47] <rcjsuen> bltNoTomato: That'd probably explain why it can't find the dependencies.
[16:59:48] <xbb> brendan0powers, sorry I mean the way it looks
[16:59:56] <rcjsuen> at least, so i would like to think
[17:00:00] <briandealwis> flyff: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combo_box
[17:00:27] <flyff> omg
[17:00:53] <flyff> I don't need combo_box. problem I have is that I cannot run codes...
[17:01:25] <rcjsuen> flyff: I was talking to bltNoTomato when I was talkign about combo boxes and was in no way addressing your issues.
[17:01:41] <flyff> :|
[17:01:58] <bltNoTomato> rcjsuen, how should I have installed it then? can I add it under Available Software Sites?
[17:02:09] <briandealwis> flyff: it sounds like your dev environment isn't set up.  The CDT FAQ has a set of questions and answers to ensure the base compilation tools are there.  In your case, it sounds like make can't be found.
[17:02:12] <rcjsuen> bltNoTomato: Yes, you can add it to the list. Presumably similar to what those screenshots were telling you.
[17:02:14] <flyff> Do I need MinGW t run my c++ codes ?
[17:02:26] <rcjsuen> flyff: Well, you need a compiler, and some build tool.
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[17:02:42] <flyff> I installed MinGW and it works I think.
[17:02:43] <flyff> but
[17:02:55] <rcjsuen> briandealwis: As to why your macro failed, there's an outstanding bug (I would know I wrote the code), so ~cdt-faq???? won't work, you can't have trailing punctuation or whatever
[17:02:59] <flyff> I've got this problem
[17:02:59] <flyff> **** Build of configuration Default for project helloworld ****
[17:02:59] <flyff> (Cannot run program "make": Launching failed)
[17:03:24] <briandealwis> rcjsuen: ah, thanks.
[17:03:51] <briandealwis> rcjsuen: is there a list of the macros?
[17:04:01] <rcjsuen> there was but not anymore
[17:04:01] <rcjsuen> er
[17:04:03] <bltNoTomato> rcjsuen, what link? the link I tried (http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/) doesnt work
[17:04:04] <rcjsuen> well, there is, kind of
[17:04:07] <rcjsuen> you'd have to look in CVS
[17:04:23] <rcjsuen> bltNoTomato: That won't work because it's not the Galileo site. ;) The site is listed in the FAQ you can grep that.
[17:04:35] <briandealwis> flyff: see specifically http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT/User/FAQ#I_get_the_error_.27Build_error_.28Exec_error:_Launching_failed.29.27
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[17:05:07] <rcjsuen> briandealwis: This lists some of them. Yes, I realize it's hard to read. http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.ecf/applications/kosmos/bundles/org.eclipse.ecf.presence.bot.kosmos/messages.properties?root=RT_Project&view=markup
[17:05:11] <flyff> Program file not specified
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[17:05:17] <flyff> it says
[17:05:18] <flyff> Program file not specified
[17:05:24] <rcjsuen> perhaps "hard" doesn't really reflect the damage it does to one's eyes
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[17:06:01] <briandealwis> Ouch! :-)
[17:06:19] <rcjsuen> briandealwis: well you can tell Java java.util.Properties to parse it i guess ;)
[17:06:31] <rcjsuen> it used to be properly formatted but that pg is no longer up
[17:06:37] <rcjsuen> (i mean there was an html version)
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[17:08:45] <flyff> I looked the FAQ and
[17:08:55] <flyff> there is no solusion on it
[17:09:36] <briandealwis> flyff: you tried opening a command window and running 'make'?  What happens?
[17:10:36] <flyff> what do you mean
[17:10:45] <philk_> how can I use a DS factory component with ConfigAdmin?
[17:11:03] <flyff> should I install CDT 6.0.2 even though I am using C/c++ only galileo ?
[17:11:18] <flyff> anyother plug-ins I need to install ?
[17:11:41] <rcjsuen> flyff: as in, open up cmd.exe, type 'make', what happens?
[17:11:50] <flyff> when I create a c++ project, include folder is automatically created and many files in it
[17:11:57] <flyff> wait
[17:12:42] <flyff> make is not recognised as an internal or external command
[17:13:08] <flyff> ,operable  program or batch file.
[17:13:15] <briandealwis> flyff: if you're using the Eclipse IDE for C/C++ developers, then you have the CDT installed already.  Your problem is that your build tools (MinGW) aren't being found in your PATH.
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[17:13:31] <flyff> OK
[17:13:44] <flyff> should I look at the paths ?
[17:14:04] <briandealwis> flyff: yup.  And you'll need to restart Eclipse for it to reload those values.
[17:14:52] <flyff> those values ?
[17:14:58] <briandealwis> flyff: PATH
[17:14:58] <flyff> values in the PATHS ?
[17:15:05] <flyff> ok
[17:15:35] <briandealwis> flyff: Changes to the environment are only picked up when a program first starts.  If you change PATH, you need to restart any programs that need to use it.
[17:16:01] <briandealwis> flyff: you might want to check out some of these tutorials: http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT/User/FAQ#Are_there_complete_HowTos_for_setting_up_the_CDT.3F
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[17:19:29] <flyff> should I look at 'system variables' or 'user variables' ?
[17:20:24] <flyff> I put ;C:\MinGWbin
[17:20:26] <flyff> but
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[17:20:36] <flyff> it doesn't work
[17:20:41] <bltNoTomato> rcjsuen, thank you. it's installing finally. took a long while to get it updated
[17:21:11] <briandealwis> flyff: dunno, I don't use windows.  Find the one with PATH, add it, and remember you need to restart your cmd.exe too to use the new PATH value
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[17:23:06] <flyff> should I reboot the computer ?
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[17:29:54] <flyff> omg.I reboot , but it stiall doesn't work
[17:30:07] <flyff> **** Build of configuration Default for project helloworld ****
[17:30:07] <flyff> (Cannot run program "make": Launching failed)
[17:30:25] <flyff> All I want is to run my HELLOWORLD.CPP
[17:30:31] <rcjsuen> Does it work from the command line?
[17:30:45] <flyff> how do I run it ?
[17:31:03] <rcjsuen> Didn't you just try to run it, say twenty minutes ago, when I asked you to?
[17:31:13] <flyff> did you ?
[17:31:15] <flyff> OH
[17:31:15] <rcjsuen> When I said "Does it work", I was asking about Make
[17:31:24] <flyff> what's Make ?
[17:31:26] <rcjsuen> <briandealwis> flyff: you tried opening a command window and running 'make'?  What happens?
[17:31:29] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> flyff: as in, open up cmd.exe, type 'make', what happens?
[17:31:39] <flyff> I answered
[17:31:54] <flyff> 'make' is not recognised as in ..............
[17:32:04] <rcjsuen> And I'm asking, did you try now, after you rebooted
[17:32:17] <flyff> internal or external command, operable proram or batch file
[17:32:26] <flyff> I did on eclipse
[17:32:37] <flyff> doesn't work
[17:33:47] <briandealwis> flyff: please follow this tutorial: http://max.berger.name/howto/cdt/cdt.jsp
[17:33:52] <flyff> why every machine/ program codes are against me :(
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[17:34:16] <rcjsuen> It would be wise to get used to that feeling. :)
[17:35:12] <briandealwis> flyff: that tutorial notes that mingw isn't sufficient.  It proceeds step by step and includes installing the full set of tools you'll require.
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[17:36:05] <flyff> is msys needed for me ?
[17:36:13] <briandealwis> yes
[17:36:35] <flyff> !!
[17:36:38] <flyff> what is that
[17:36:53] <briandealwis> Google is your friend
[17:37:01] <flyff> :|
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[17:38:49] <Bisu[Shield]> what does it mean when an icon has a red ! with it from svn
[17:39:06] <Bisu[Shield]> and where is documentation so i wont have to ask in the future
[17:39:27] <rcjsuen> Documentation, hopefully, would be under the 'Help' menu. But I've never used Subclipse/Subversive.
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[17:52:46] <flyff> I really did know how complex to set up C++
[17:52:53] <flyff> WT.
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[18:03:02] <flyff> still doesn't work
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[18:05:58] <bltNoTomato> how can I add another extention type to be viewed like .php in the editor?
[18:06:21] <rcjsuen> ~content-type
[18:06:21] <Arbalest> How do I open my own file types in the WTP/PDT editors? http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_FAQ#How_do_I_use_my_own_filename_extensions_in_the_XML_editor.3F_It_only_works_correctly_if_a_file_ends_with_.xml.
[18:07:47] <bltNoTomato> rcjsuen, thanks
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[18:09:03] <flyff> **** Build of configuration Default for project helloworld ****
[18:09:03] <flyff> make all
[18:09:03] <flyff> make: *** No rule to make target `all'.  Stop.
[18:09:11] <flyff> MAKE works
[18:09:13] <flyff> but
[18:09:27] <flyff> when I run my HELLOWORLD.CPP. I GOT THE MESSAGE ABOVE
[18:09:33] <flyff> HELP ME
[18:09:37] <flyff> pls
[18:09:48] <briandealwis> flyff: does your makefile have an "all" target?
[18:09:56] <flyff> what is that ?
[18:10:01] <flyff> what is makefile ?
[18:10:12] <flyff> what does it make ?
[18:10:26] <briandealwis> flyff: google make and find a tutorial.  you have much to learn!
[18:10:51] <rcjsuen> I thought CDT generated makefiles but I could be wrong.
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[18:20:09] <rgrunber> as far as i know, if you create a new C/C++ project (file -> new -> c/c++ project), the makefile generation should be taken care of.  from there you should be able to just right click on the project then run as -> c/c++ application
[18:22:34] <flyff> how it says
[18:22:35] <flyff> **** Rebuild of configuration Debug for project hello ****
[18:22:35] <flyff> **** Internal Builder is used for build               ****
[18:22:35] <flyff> Nothing to build for hello
[18:26:18] <flyff> in fact there are tons of things to build for hello !!
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[18:27:03] <rcjsuen> Maybe there's nothing to build because the project has already been built.
[18:27:26] <flyff> then why it doesn't print out 'hello world'
[18:27:34] <flyff> display*
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[18:30:35] <rcjsuen> If you run the program from the command line does it work?
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[18:34:40] <flyff> how do i do that ?
[18:34:52] <flyff> what form is it after compled ?
[18:34:56] <flyff> complied ?
[18:35:03] <flyff> binary ?
[18:35:12] <rcjsuen> Yes, C++ compiles to binary.
[18:37:14] <flyff> .exe right?
[18:37:32] <flyff> I don't have any .exe files on the folder where hello.cpp file is on
[18:37:53] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure if it puts it there.
[18:38:05] <rcjsuen> You should check the project more thoroughly and see if it's there.
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[18:43:36] <flyff> !!
[18:43:50] <flyff> guys
[18:44:00] <flyff> when we create a new project
[18:44:35] <flyff> should we choose Executable ->EMpty project?
[18:45:58] <flyff> I got 'Empty project' and 'hello world c++ project' under Executable project type
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[18:46:39] <flyff> what's ansi-style ?
[18:47:20] <rcjsuen> A standard.
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[18:48:23] <flyff> what's hellow1.o file
[18:48:28] <flyff> exetension is o
[18:49:27] <rcjsuen> These generic questions are more suited for the ##c++ channel.
[18:50:41] <FauxFaux> rcjsuen: Snigger.
[18:51:59] <flyff> rcjsuen
[18:52:03] <flyff> thank for your help
[18:52:05] <flyff> and
[18:52:19] <flyff> braindealwis
[18:52:28] <flyff> but
[18:52:35] <flyff> I still have tons of questions to ask
[18:54:50] <flyff> what's Toolchains ?
[18:55:31] <paulweb515> flyff: enter is not punctuation.  Please don't press your Enter or Return key until you've finished typing your question, sentence, or idea.  It is annoying to see that and hard to follow.
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[18:55:59] <paulweb515> (courtesy of javabot)
[18:56:03] <flyff> what are the differences between 'empty project' and 'hello world C++ project' in the project type ? when I create a new project
[18:56:42] <paulweb515> flyff: in theory, the hello world one has enough stuff filled in to compile the hello world source files it also provides
[18:59:50] <flyff> ok. if I choose 'empty project' what things should I add to its setttings? when I choose 'empty project' and try to complie a simple code, it doesn't even work
[19:02:07] <flyff> wait. I will show you actual screen
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[19:07:53] <flyff> does anyone know sites that I can put my .jpg files into ? so that it gets a unique URL that everyone can see
[19:08:02] <flyff> I know one for codes but
[19:09:49] <rcjsuen> ~imagebin
[19:09:50] <Arbalest> Please upload your screenshots online and then paste the link back to the channel - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://www.freeimagehosting.net/ - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
[19:10:21] <flyff> thanks
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[19:11:03] <flyff> http://imagebin.org/88355
[19:11:05] <flyff> here you go
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[19:12:14] <flyff> these are 2 are when I choose 'empty project' and ' hello world c++ project'. 1st and 2nd one on the screen shot respectively
[19:12:55] <rcjsuen> why don't you just use the hello world one
[19:13:32] <flyff> isn't it inconvinient to use the hello world one every time I create a project?
[19:13:55] <flyff> and wondering does everyone have the same one I have ?
[19:14:00] <rcjsuen> If things are preset, I don't see why I wouldn't just use it
[19:14:37] <flyff> I mean, when you want to start a new project, do you use Hello world one and modify ?
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[19:17:45] <flyff> thanks rcjsuen
[19:17:49] <flyff> I am off to my home
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[19:24:53] <nhak> is it true that eclipse give out errors when we use #define to define some constants (in C or C++), because that will be done only by compiler ?
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[19:24:57] <bubbles|> hi
[19:25:19] <bubbles|> does eclipse have a "find usages" feature? (look for usages of a certain method in a project)
[19:28:23] <rcjsuen> bubbles|: Ctrl+Alt+H, for Java
[19:29:57] <bubbles|> no way over the menu bar?
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[19:30:42] <rcjsuen> Not sure. You can do it thru right-click I believe.
[19:30:46] <nhak> is it true that eclipse give out errors when we use #define to define some constants (in C or C++), because that will be done only by compiler ?
[19:30:52] <nhak> any suggestions ?
[19:31:01] <bubbles|> i didn't see anyhting with right-click :\
[19:31:14] <bubbles|> btw, why is eclipse so much faster than netbeans?
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[19:31:41] <rcjsuen> bubbles|: Right-click on the method > Open Call Hierarchy      Ctrl+Alt+H, I see it anyway.
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[19:32:08] <bubbles|> ah, ok - "call hierarchy" thanks
[19:32:51] <DeathRayDragonLu> so -- trying to create a new svn repo on a pc
[19:32:56] <nhak> someone here use eclipse to code C ?
[19:32:58] <DeathRayDragonLu> via a server
[19:33:09] <DeathRayDragonLu> \\server\svnrootfolder
[19:33:26] <DeathRayDragonLu> it builds it out, but then i'm having trouble checking it out
[19:33:32] <DeathRayDragonLu> any ideas?
[19:33:37] <DeathRayDragonLu> or is this just crazy, ha
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[19:52:52] <DeathRayDragonLu> actually i figured out that if i map a network drive, that works
[19:53:52] <briandealwis> nhak: I don't use CDT to do C/C++ development, but I'm 99.999% certain that CDT would not consider #defines as a compiler error.
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[20:37:17] <toulmean> hey everybody, how do I define my own execution environment ?
[20:37:39] <toulmean> I would need to just extend JavaSE-1.6 with a few packages coming from the jvm
[20:38:02] <toulmean> I would need that in PDE: I understand it is possible to pass extra packages at runtime.
[20:39:22] <rcjsuen> Those files are defined in some magic OSGi bundle I believe. zx might know.
[20:39:56] <zx> why do you want to define your own EE?
[20:39:57] <rcjsuen> toulmean: look in org.eclipse.osgi
[20:40:17] <zx> are they truly some special packages that you have come up with on your own?
[20:40:23] <rcjsuen> toulmean: scroll down http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.equinox/framework/bundles/org.eclipse.osgi/?root=RT_Project
[20:40:25] <rcjsuen> well my work here is done
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[20:44:13] <zx> toulmean: there's an extension point... org.eclipse.jdt.launching.executionEnvironments
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[20:44:31] <zx> toulmean: generally, when most people think they need to create an EE they don't so I'm curious to know what the case is
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[22:17:53] <shingoki> I'm just trying to get the hang of AST stuff, can I get the return type of a "MessageSend"?
[22:20:42] <shingoki> Also, am I missing something or are there basically no javadocs in the AST stuff?
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[22:24:42] <psst> Is there any way to tell JSDT where to find included javascript libraries (e.g. dojo)?
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[22:30:57] <nitind> included?
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[22:35:08] <nitind> psst: The JavaScript Libraries property page for the project should let you control what JSDT knows about for that project.
[22:35:29] <psst> nitind: thanks, I will look at that.
[22:38:56] <psst> That seems to have done something: my errors are different.
[22:39:47] <psst> nitind: Do you know how I can also tell JSDT about my variable called "dojo"?
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[22:41:06] <mateothegreat> i need to speed up my development on laptop lol .. what would be a processor for an ideal eclipse environment? the i5 or i7?
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[22:42:12] <mateothegreat> this 'i' crap has got me throwed off heh
[22:42:15] <heinz> mateothegreat: something built in 2020
[22:42:19] <heinz> scnr
[22:42:24] <mateothegreat> ;/
[22:42:35] <mateothegreat> my quad core desktop runs eclipse like it ain't nothin
[22:42:47] <mateothegreat> but man when i travel, my development draggggggsss =x
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[22:44:39] <psst> mateothegreat: what OS?
[22:44:47] <ZeuPiark> hello
[22:44:55] <nitind> psst: No, the way that "dojo" is contructed is pretty custom.  It'd need plug-ins.
[22:45:08] <shingoki> There must be some kind of docs for the AST stuff somewhere, otherwise how does anyone new ever learn it?
[22:45:40] <mateothegreat> psst: windows based
[22:45:46] <mateothegreat> hmm .. i could put some *nix on it
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[22:45:53] <nitind> shingoki: There's DOM AST and there's the compiler's internal AST.  Which are you in?
[22:46:03] <mateothegreat> i see some info on the i7 being quad core (for mobile)
[22:47:01] <shingoki> the internal one I think
[22:47:30] <shingoki> yup internal. I'm trying to work out what's up with TypeReference and TypeBinding, but there aren't any javadocs and I can't google anything either :)
[22:47:36] <psst> mateothegreat: I found that my 2007 Intel Core Duo ran eclipse just fine on OSX, and pretty well in a single-core Windows VM
[22:47:55] <psst> mateothegreat: (because I didn't have *anything* else happening in Windows)
[22:48:43] <psst> mateothegreat: And these were big, bloated IDEs built on Eclipse 3.0?3.2
[22:48:56] <mateothegreat> yea, i formatted today .. and there is iltereally nothing on it BUT eclipse + flex builder
[22:49:10] <psst> mateothegreat: you don't run firefox? IE?
[22:49:18] <mateothegreat> well of course, firefox for debugging
[22:49:24] <psst> mateothegreat: mail program?
[22:49:27] <mateothegreat> nope
[22:49:57] <psst> mateothegreat: surely it runs pretty slick now?
[22:50:03] <ZeuPiark> bye
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[22:50:09] <mateothegreat> negative :(
[22:50:16] <mateothegreat> i even setup a new workspace
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[22:50:22] <mateothegreat> and 1 by 1 re-imported my projects
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[22:50:28] <mateothegreat> something ain't right lol
[22:50:38] <psst> nitind: hmm.  So no-one ever uses JSDT for dojo without a bunch of misleading errors?
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[22:53:45] <shingoki> I have no idea at all how to find out what the difference is between a TypeReference and a TypeBinding, or what they do
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[22:54:25] <shingoki> I just want to take a FieldDeclaration, check that it is a certain base type, then get the parametric type from it
[22:55:21] <nitind> psst: IBM has plug-ins in its products for Dojo, but they're not free.
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[23:00:12] <psst> nitind: oh?
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[23:00:46] <psst> nitind: do you know of a plugin for RAD?
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[23:01:11] <nitind> psst: It's already in RAD 7.5.  It's a project facet you have to enable.
[23:02:14] <psst> nitind: aha.
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[23:13:11] <psst> nitind: hmm, I added that facet thing.  Also found this screencast: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/attachment.cgi?id=109012 Still scratching my head.
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[23:14:32] <psst> nitind: well, I added the "Javascript Toolkit" facet.  PErhaps that wasn't the one you meant
[23:15:40] <nitind> psst: There's another one specific to Dojo.
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[23:17:02] <psst> nitind: maybe I didn't install that bit.  It was a *hug* download and I scrimped on some optional things, IIRC
[23:17:07] <psst> *huge*
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[23:18:03] <psst> nitind: do you know what level of dojo it supports? If it is <1.3 I'll stop looking
[23:19:07] <nitind> psst: Not off the top of my head.  I don't think it's that version specific though.
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[23:20:19] <psst> nitind: back to XL download for me then ;)
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[23:21:28] <psst> nitind: thanks for the help
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[23:22:59] <toulmean> zx: oh iot
[23:23:13] <toulmean> zx: oh it's not so much that we need a new EE
[23:23:33] <toulmean> zx: we need to have the current one we use accept a few more packages from the VM and leave us alone.
[23:23:42] <toulmean> that or we stop trying to use a EE
[23:24:01] <rcjsuen> not use an EE
[23:24:04] <rcjsuen> sacriledge
[23:24:06] <nitind> madness!
[23:24:19] <psst> um...what's an EE?
[23:24:32] <rcjsuen> actually think I spelt that word wrong
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[23:24:40] <rcjsuen> Right, no 'd'.
[23:24:49] <psst> there's no 'd' in EE
[23:24:56] <rcjsuen> ~tell psst about Execution Environments
[23:25:02] <rcjsuen> ~tell psst about wiki Execution Environments
[23:25:02] <Arbalest> psst: Check out this wiki article - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Execution_Environments
[23:26:00] <psst> hmm, that says "you should seek to use the smallest EE possible" ? so surely no EE at all is as small as it can get?
[23:26:09] * psst may be missing something here
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[23:32:54] <zx> toulmean: can you be more specific about your problem?
[23:33:13] <toulmean> zx: sure!
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[23:34:00] <toulmean> zxs: so my problem is: I have a bunch of classes that depend on com.sun.media.jai.codecimpl.JPEGCodec
[23:34:06] <toulmean> zx: ^^
[23:34:20] <toulmean> zx: that and other oldies from the same package
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[23:35:31] <toulmean> zx: the package is not available in orbit
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[23:35:47] <zx> toulmean: are you getting access restriction issues?
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[23:35:55] <toulmean> zx: yep
[23:36:11] <toulmean> zx: so the workaround for runtime is to add this argument:
[23:36:30] <toulmean> com.sun.media.jai.codecimpl.JPEGCodec
[23:36:34] <toulmean> oops
[23:36:45] <toulmean> zx: -Dorg.osgi.framework.system.packages.extra=com.sun.image.codec.jpeg
[23:37:01] <toulmean> sorry the correct package in the sun JVM is com.sun.image.codec.jpeg
[23:37:21] <toulmean> zx: however PDE cannot be set to have those extra packages on the EE
[23:37:36] <toulmean> zx: that's about it.
[23:41:16] <zx> toulmean: you could fool PDE in saying that it's OK
[23:41:25] <zx> toulmean: add an access rule to the .classpath
[23:42:02] <zx> toulmean: http://pastebin.com/BAxCG40e
[23:42:08] <zx> toulmean: something like that should make the problem go away
[23:42:20] <zx> toulmean: the error does mean something as not all VMs may have that particular package
[23:42:27] <toulmean> zx: yes.
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[23:42:38] <toulmean> zx: We know and we acknowledge the problem.
[23:42:53] <zx> toulmean: well my solution will work for you if you're willing to accept that risk
[23:42:54] <toulmean> zx: however we also are in control of the production env
[23:43:07] <toulmean> zx: and we deploy the VM ourselves
[23:45:25] <toulmean> zx: ok thanks it worked
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[23:47:21] <xenaxon> hello, how can I make my eclipse sincronise my ftp folder with my local folder
[23:50:17] <nitind> Why not just mount the ftp folder into your workspace?  ~tm
[23:50:17] <Arbalest> Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
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