[00:00:11] <totic> How do I show the Java Heap?
[00:01:30] <totic> %cpu threads Memory
[00:01:30] <totic> 452 Eclipse federico 2.8 33 527.2 MB Intel
[00:01:43] <totic> dam copy paste..
[00:02:07] <briandealwis> totic: as I mentioned earlier: What full is your JVM heap (Preferences > General > Show heap status)?
[00:02:20] <totic> I clicked that, and apply
[00:02:27] <totic> didnt see anything happening because of it
[00:02:39] <rcjsuen> don't think so
[00:02:43] <briandealwis> It should be in your status bar at the bottom
[00:02:57] <briandealwis> totic: gotta run. sorry.
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[00:04:12] <philk_> rcjsuen: so every time one switches the workspace, all the targets he created for copyto are gone? Thats not very useful. Can I not persist to the installation location of eclipse?
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[00:05:52] <totic> How can I assign more memory to eclipse when I start it? like normal java programs you can do Java -VM1200M or something along those lines
[00:06:38] <totic> ok google did the trick
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[00:12:52] <rcjsuen> well if you use Platform.getInstallLocation() maybe
[00:12:57] <rcjsuen> you could check how the workspaces are persisted
[00:13:00] <rcjsuen> and use similar codde
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[00:21:00] <jclinton> Is there a way to get help on Java syntax by hitting a key while hovering over a Java keyword in source?
[00:21:41] <philk_> rcjsuen: ConfigurationScope looks fine
[00:21:54] <jclinton> F2 doesn't seem to open the language reference, for example, on some keywords.
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[02:03:00] <philk_> paulweb515_: how do I refresh my menu contribution in the main->edit menu? I do a ICommandService.refreshElements with my commands ID but the menu entry is not updated. Its implemented as a ContributionFactory and I would expect it is triggered to rebuild its menu?
[02:03:43] <paulweb515_> refresh elements only works against something that registers a UIElement
[02:03:58] <paulweb515_> philk_: and against a specific command id
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[02:06:38] <philk_> paulweb515_: hmmm so there is no way to refresh the main/edit menu?
[02:06:57] <paulweb515_> no, it wouldn't know where to begin
[02:07:21] <philk_> paulweb515_: does the main menu not register UIElement with the command service?
[02:08:06] <philk_> paulweb515_: I remember one could signal the change of a source (variable) and that trigger some refresh?
[02:10:05] <philk_> paulweb515_: the reason why i need that: My copyto plugin can be configured and new targets (pastebin.ca, pastebin.com) can be added in the preferences. After you have done that, the menu entry in the main menu should change from displaying only one entry to a submenu (if more than one target is defined)
[02:11:45] <philk_> is there a reason why things like the default encoding is not saved in the configuration area so that one would not have to set it up again and again for each workspace? It could be overwriten by workspace settings though
[02:16:13] <philk_> paulweb515_: how do I create an Expression for IContributionRoot.addContributionItem()?
[02:17:02] <paulweb515_> philk_: you subclass Expression
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[02:33:51] <philk__> paulweb515_: thanks, subclassing Expression works. So you have no idea how I could force a refresh of the main menu? It seems to be created very early during startup and then not changed. However certain items do change their state, depending on selection etc. So there is some listener work going on
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[02:48:21] <jgh40> hi
[02:48:49] <jgh40> i was wondering if someone could help me with something with the eclipse client? never have used it before, but I setup a svn server to be accessed via http
[02:49:05] <jgh40> i am trying to add a repository, and am having difficulties
[02:49:37] <jgh40> on unix I do this: svn co http://svn.myhost.com/svn/test
[02:49:42] <jgh40> and it works
[02:49:45] <paulweb515_> philk__: items (individual contribution items) can change their enablement
[02:50:07] <jgh40> i am trying to add this into the eclipse client, and was hoping someone could help
[02:50:07] <paulweb515_> philk__: when they come in through the menu contributions, the system changes their visibility
[02:51:21] <paulweb515_> philk__: but to have an item that later "turns into" a submenu with 2 items, basically you would have to add all 3, and make their visibleWhen clause opposites
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[02:52:07] <paulweb515_> philk__: either that, or provide a CompoundContributionItem which has to return its IContribuitionItems on every menu open (which gives you the change to return either 1 item or a MenuManager with 2 items)
[02:52:15] <paulweb515_> philk__: I'm not sure which would be best, though
[02:52:44] <philk__> paulweb515_: Hmmm CCI seems good enough
[02:53:03] <philk__> paulweb515_: at least it seems the easiest way to do.
[02:53:54] <philk__> paulweb515_: its a real shame that there are no other anchors to attach my menu in the JDT provided context menus
[02:56:33] <jgh40> can anyone help?
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[03:12:15] <philk__> paulweb515_: there is bug in the extension point doc for dynamic menuContributions i think. It says the class muss implement ContributionItem, when instead it must implement CompoundCI?
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[03:12:56] <philk__> paulweb515_: when I return my menuManagers items in the CCI like this: menuManager.getItems(); When is the menu managers dispose() called? or is that not required?
[03:13:43] <nmatrix9> anyone here use mylyn
[03:13:50] <nmatrix9> have problems creating a new category
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[03:27:14] <paulweb515_> philk__: ContributionItem is a 'widening' to allow you to place a single IContributionItem in place ... CompoundContributionItem is set up to fill in one or more IContributionItems when asked
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[03:30:54] <philk__> paulweb515_: ok, thanks! It works great now with CCI
[03:31:32] <philk__> paulweb515_: I still need a good anchor point for my menu in the JDT provided popups though. Can I set my before/after to group markers?
[03:32:28] <philk__> paulweb515_: JDT does something like "menu.appendToGroup(ICommonMenuConstants.GROUP_EDIT, action);" however, when I try to append to this "group.edit" from my menuContribution, my menu is not visible at all
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[03:52:34] <bobbytek3> is @value supported in eclipse's javadoc view?
[03:52:40] <bobbytek3> doesn't seem to be working
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[06:45:47] <kib0> anyone can point me to a way to control several commands from a handler ?
[06:47:05] <kib0> or a way to get the control id to make a switch or something like that?
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[08:03:28] <zoryk> anybody managed to install the android SDK onto ubuntu NBR ?
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[08:24:36] <aditsu> hi, I'm getting "org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: XPCOM error -2147467262", it seems to be mentioned in the FAQ but the information there looks obsolete
[08:24:42] <aditsu> what can I do about it?
[08:33:10] <aditsu> oh it seems to work now
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[08:49:05] <EnginA> no way to import project into SVN from within Eclipse ?
[08:49:35] <EnginA> a manual import looks like committing unnessary .metadata indices ?
[08:50:00] <EnginA> so if eclipse were to handle it, eclipse would know not to import .class and .index files
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[08:59:07] <DaleMox> hi, where can I set the indentation of a long annotation? it's currently at 4 spaces, and I want to move it to 8
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[09:00:21] <gagzilla> I'm running into a weird issue in latest eclipse on Ubuntu- everytime I close any dialog box, the whole app (eclipse) shuts down
[09:00:59] <gagzilla> anyone know if that is a known problem?
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[09:17:19] <FauxFaux> gagzilla: Loads of people have been complaining about ubuntu recently, no idea what it is.
[09:17:29] <FauxFaux> Assumably there's a bug.
[09:17:56] <gagzilla> so I just tried it on another machine and it works fine over there.
[09:18:06] <gagzilla> same setup
[09:20:23] <DaleMox> where can I set the indentation of a long annotation? it's currently at 4 spaces, and I want to move it to 8
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[09:42:38] <Element9> hi!
[09:43:55] <Element9> Can somebody help me. I'm new to Elipce and Java Enterpise, and I'm trying to compile a sample app.
[09:44:49] <Element9> I need to create a runtime profile, but the list of availabe profiles doesn't show "Java Application"
[09:45:34] <Element9> just Apache Tomcat, Generic server, HTTP Preview and J2EE Privew
[09:45:57] <Element9> I'm running "Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers"
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[09:51:34] <Element9> Ok, wrong 'create configurations' wizard. I found the right one. :)
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[10:22:46] <sclytrack> My Eclipse crashed and my project explore is empty.
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[10:22:54] <sclytrack> Although all the projects are still in the workspace directory
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[10:23:41] <havocologe> is there a way to change the default editor of files that have locked editors due to filetypes ?
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[10:36:49] <sclytrack> Found it
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[10:42:51] <nasir> i have copied the plugins which i have created into eclipse3.4/plugins folder, i have opened the workspace but my plugins are not seen in the plugin Details (help->about eclipse sdk)
[10:43:15] <sclytrack> ./eclipse -clean
[10:43:25] <nasir> i tried that
[10:43:33] <nasir> still no luck
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[10:46:06] <sclytrack> Does the plugin match the Eclipse 3.4 version
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[10:47:06] <nasir> yes!
[10:47:15] <sclytrack> What plugin did you install?
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[10:49:39] <nasir> these plugins or common plugins which we have implemented to extend the cdt implementation, morover these plugins we are using from so long as a product.these plugins can be seen if i have import into workspace then open another Eclipse instance
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[10:51:56] <sclytrack> Oh gosh, your more of a specialist than I.
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[11:08:07] <philk__> how can I add images to the content proposal items?
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[11:34:42] <DJGummikuh> Hey
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[11:34:53] <DJGummikuh> when will eclipse 3.6 be released?
[11:36:14] <philk__> DJGummikuh: summer I think
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[11:38:11] <uknown> hello, I have a problem, when I am trying to build a project of C++, it is not building the project, It does nothing? I am not getting what's wrong with me? can anyone help me?
[11:39:25] <DJGummikuh> thank you
[11:39:34] <DJGummikuh> because I usuually do the major updates
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[12:01:14] <uknown> help please :(
[12:06:04] <cantoma> guys, in CDT if I want to check the content of an array such as I do in gdb print array[0] on the fly. How can I do that using the Debug environment?
[12:09:16] <philk__> cantoma: I think not a lot of CDT users around here
[12:09:17] <jink> Can I selectively (i.e. on a per project basis) turn "Build Automatically" on or off?
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[12:11:41] <cantoma> philk__, Cannot join #cdt (Channel is invite only).
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[12:14:42] <cantoma> philk__, you see thinking of eclipse as a tool exclusive for JAVA is wrong. Maybe in 113 users here there is at least one with CDT experience.
[12:15:10] <acuster> Hey all. What approaches exist for editing i18n properties files in Eclipse? I know in netbeans they have a view with all the labels in separate columns, is there something equivalent in Eclipse? Thanks.
[12:15:34] <philk__> cantoma: that might be, be assured the CDT will answer you when they are around.
[12:16:20] <philk__> acuster: unfortunatly no. Its all done by hand. I think there is a l10n properties file editor in the incubator somewhere, but don't ask me where... its called ResourceEditor or so
[12:16:41] <acuster> thanks
[12:17:24] <philk__> acuster: i wish there would be better support for l10n in Eclipse.
[12:17:54] <DJGummikuh> while trying to update galileo, I get the following errors: oh seems to much
[12:17:55] <DJGummikuh> wait
[12:18:08] <DJGummikuh> No repository found at http://download.eclipse.org/releases/galileo/aggregate.
[12:18:25] <philk__> you can ignore that i think
[12:18:32] <DJGummikuh> I also get Transfer Exceptions
[12:18:33] <DJGummikuh> read time out
[12:18:39] <DJGummikuh> in short it fails to update
[12:19:12] <philk__> maybe you need to setup a new update site for Galileo... but I am not into that p2 stuff so much
[12:19:35] <DJGummikuh> p2?
[12:19:47] <philk__> DJGummikuh: thats the updater's name
[12:20:12] <philk__> DJGummikuh: try bugs.eclipse.org and search for p2. You will be surprised
[12:20:13] <DJGummikuh> I see
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[12:23:18] <DJGummikuh> any chance that the download.eclipse.org server really IS down?
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[12:24:44] <philk__> DJGummikuh: http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/http://download.eclipse.org
[12:25:15] <DJGummikuh> wtf nice page
[12:25:41] <DJGummikuh> seems our isp is messing around *sighs*
[12:27:52] <DJGummikuh> now wait... as it seems, the IP to which the dns posts is up but not the page
[12:28:58] <DJGummikuh> wow.. appearantly it's not down - just insanely slow
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[12:35:18] <DJGummikuh> is there a mirror for that?
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[12:35:32] <DJGummikuh> aah now it says "Access Forbidden"
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[12:40:19] <CaptainNuss> hi everyone. so, after reading the channel's FAQ, i found that the OSGi console may be of help solving my current problem. but even when i start eclipse 3.4 with the -console switch, i cannot seem to find the OSGi console. any suggestions?
[12:40:36] <CaptainNuss> i thought it must be listed in the console view, on the button that allows me to open a console
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[12:42:56] <rcjsuen> it's in the same terminal you opened eclipse
[12:43:06] <rcjsuen> and orthogonal to the 'Console' view in the Eclipse workbench
[12:44:59] <CaptainNuss> my terminal just shows the standard command prompt after starting eclipse. and the console view doesn't list the osgi console
[12:45:27] <CaptainNuss> is there any additional plug-in required for the osgi console to be available?
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[12:46:10] <rcjsuen> there should be a >
[12:46:15] <rcjsuen> tho additional stuff may have appeared
[12:46:20] <rcjsuen> you could try typing ss and see what happens
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[12:46:27] <rcjsuen> may also be dependent on what OS you're on
[12:46:33] <rcjsuen> not clear to me how it's handled on win32
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[12:54:10] <CaptainNuss> yeah, i already did that (typing "ss"). doesn't work on the command prompt, and as i said the console view doesn't list the osgi console
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[13:03:52] <DJGummikuh> 6is there a list of mirrors for the updater?
[13:04:09] <DJGummikuh> download.eclipse.org/eclipse/{whatever} just doesn't work for me
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[13:04:16] <DJGummikuh> slow as if I'm on a 300baud modem
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[13:28:58] <rcjsuen> acuster: There's a tool hosted at Babel tho I don't know if it's had a release yet.
[13:29:09] <rcjsuen> acuster: look for eclipse resource editor, or bundle editor, it was originally at SF
[13:29:22] <rcjsuen> cantoma: You could also try posting your question in the CDT forums.
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[13:31:10] <rcjsuen> CaptainNuss: As I previously noted, the OSGi console will not appear in the 'Console' view of your Eclipse instance.
[13:31:50] <CaptainNuss> rcjsuen: ah, i misinterpreted the word "orthogonal". plus, i've seen screenshots where the osgi console was in the console view
[13:32:07] <rcjsuen> CaptainNuss: Well, if I run an OSGi application then yeah it'll show up there.
[13:32:14] <rcjsuen> Not when you do './eclipse -console' though.
[13:32:44] <CaptainNuss> i see
[13:33:21] <rcjsuen> you have not stated what OS you are on yet I don't think
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[13:36:59] <CaptainNuss> oh, i'm sorry, i thought i had. i'm on windows xp
[13:38:19] <CaptainNuss> hm... i managed to get into the osgi console by starting the eclipse osgi bundle using "java -jar plugins\org.eclipse.osgi_3.4.3.R34x_v20081215-1030.jar -console", but that only starts the osgi system without any bundles loaded
[13:38:30] <rcjsuen> CaptainNuss: http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=84510
[13:39:13] <BearPerson> hm... doing an eclipse plugin, where's the recommended place to put icons?
[13:39:26] <BearPerson> I have some that I need to access both in code as ImageDescriptor and from plugin.xml
[13:39:30] <CaptainNuss> BearPerson: i put them in an icons folder in my plugins
[13:39:40] <CaptainNuss> BearPerson: that seems to be the norm, too
[13:40:09] <CaptainNuss> rcjsuen: that looks mighty interesting. the osgi console window opens inside a new console, it seems? doesn't do that on my installation
[13:40:12] <BearPerson> mmhmm - ImageDescriptor.createFromFile() wants a Class to build a relative path, though
[13:40:36] <CaptainNuss> neither with eclipse 3.4, nor with 3.5
[13:41:11] <BearPerson> on the other hand, if I put them into my source tree, ImageDescriptor.createFromFile() works, but then I can't nicely specify it in plugin.xml - either with src/ during testing, or without for deployment
[13:41:46] <CaptainNuss> BearPerson: you can use your plugin activator class to get at plugin resources
[13:42:18] <BearPerson> mmhmm - and consulting further javadoc indicates that class can be null, good
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[13:43:12] <CaptainNuss> BearPerson: take a look at the imageDescriptorFromPlugin method in AbstractUIPlugin
[13:43:37] <CaptainNuss> BearPerson: pass it your plug-in's id and a path relative to your plug-in's root, for instance "icons/myicon.gif"
[13:44:27] <BearPerson> *nod*, just spotted that one, thanks
[13:44:50] <CaptainNuss> you're welcome :)
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[13:45:57] <rcjsuen> CaptainNuss: yes it spawns a new cmd
[13:46:01] <BearPerson> I guess sometimes I just don't see the best-practice with all the methods around, I need more experience with this stuff
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[13:49:06] <CaptainNuss> BearPerson: i hear you... right now, i'd gladly rewrite the stuff i wrote four months ago when i started meddling with eclipse. if i just had the time... ;)
[13:49:46] <CaptainNuss> rcjsuen: interesting. well, then the issue becomes why it doesn't spawn a new window over here. do you happen to know which version of eclipse that screenshot was taken with?
[13:50:26] <rcjsuen> CaptainNuss: that was with a build from last week, and that's my computer
[13:50:32] <rcjsuen> CaptainNuss: but i also tried with 3.4.2 no problems
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[13:52:21] <CaptainNuss> rcjsuen: very strange. i'll download a fresh copy of 3.4 and try it with that
[13:59:17] <BearPerson> hm, IConsoleColorProvider is an awkward interface to implement
[13:59:46] <BearPerson> getColor() is supposed to return a Color, but is not neccessarily called from the GUI thread
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[14:26:20] <QaDeS|work> hiyes. does anybody know where to get SWT help?
[14:27:19] <QaDeS|work> ah, #eclipse-dev might be a better chan for this :)
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[14:30:42] <rcjsuen> QaDeS|work: Ask in here or the SWT forums.
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[14:35:50] <yann|work> I cannot locate an implementation of the osgi.preferences (or sclipse.core.runtime.preferences) service - where is it found ?
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[14:38:06] <paulweb515_> yann|work: are you setup to find classes from your target platform plugins?
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[14:42:13] <slavkada> hey guys... im using zend studio 7... and i noticed that it doesnt display the inherited function function
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[14:42:16] <slavkada> functions*
[14:42:34] <yann|work> oh, I realize those services are only provided at runtime - I was expected them to be available through ds
[14:43:06] <yann|work> more boilerplate to be written :(
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[14:48:05] <paulweb515_> yann|work: The eclipse SDK provides very few services through OSGi and even less through DS, at least that I've seen
[14:48:29] <paulweb515_> The p2 guys have worked at providing their engines and configurers through OSGi services
[14:48:32] <QaDeS|work> I'm trying to use RowLayout to create simple flow and stack layouts. alas, the composites don't seem to fill the window when I resize it. using the code from the examples at http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.swt.snippets/src/org/eclipse/swt/snippets/Snippet176.java?view=co
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[14:49:22] <philk_> yann|work: the preferences service runs in Eclipse core
[14:49:27] <philk_> yann|work: Equinox core
[14:49:44] <paulweb515_> QaDeS|work: does the snippet do what you expect, or does it not resize either?
[14:50:00] <philk_> yann|work: you can easily fetch it using a ServiceTracker or even better base your DS on it
[14:50:07] <philk_> yann|work: reference it, I mean
[14:50:49] <QaDeS|work> good question. actually I haven't tried it ;) leeme check
[14:52:52] <yann|work> philk_: yes, a servicetracker came through my mind, and is the "more boilerplate" I was refering to
[14:53:36] <yann|work> I suppose we can also use start levels for this, although I understand it is not as guaranted to work as it would with ds...
[14:54:40] <yann|work> isn't there any other option, which would ensure that the service provider is started before a bundle using it ?
[14:55:08] <yann|work> also, is there any reason why such services are not made available through ds ?
[14:57:13] <philk_> yann|work: whats the problem you need to solve? Startlevels are not supposed to direct the order in which services "know" each other.
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[14:57:53] <philk_> yann|work: just create a DS yourself that gets activated if there is a Preferences service available in the system. It does not matter when this service appears. As soon as it appears your DS will be active
[14:58:00] <paulweb515_> yann|work: they were added before DS became stable, and no one has gone back to change them
[14:58:37] <philk_> paulweb515_: it actually does not matter *how* the Preferences service, or any other service for that matter, comes into the system. Thats not a matter of DS or not.
[14:58:46] <philk_> meant to write to yann|work
[14:59:07] <philk_> yann|work: what are you trying to do?
[14:59:12] <paulweb515_> philk_: ah, OK (I was answering his "any reason" question :-)
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[14:59:49] <philk_> yann|work: I have several DS running here in the workbench myself. They react on IWorkbench becoming available
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[15:03:01] <yann|work> philk_: I'm just trying to use the Preferences services, and was hoping I could simply assume it was already available at any time after my bundle has started
[15:03:20] <philk_> yann|work: you can never assume such in OSGi
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[15:04:03] <philk_> yann|work: its not up to you to decide when a certain service comes up in the system. So you better design your dependencies so that a service can come and go at any time. Its actually not that difficult. Descripe what you want to do please
[15:04:08] <philk_> Describe even
[15:04:25] <yann|work> ah yes, DS just calls a callback - but then I know that when that callback is called I can just access the service
[15:04:37] <philk_> why does the Eclipse spellchecking does not know "tooltip"?
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[15:05:05] <philk_> yann|work: describe what you want to do with the Preferences services in your own DS
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[15:06:33] <QaDeS|work> actually, it does not :(
[15:06:39] <yann|work> philk_: I just want to have a PreferencesService available in a given bundle (well in many bundles, that's why simplicity matters), that allows me to ask for a pref's value without having to bother too much
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[15:08:07] <philk_> yann|work: just use InstanceScope() then
[15:08:11] <QaDeS|work> what I want is to be able to simply define flows and stacks so components appear horizontally _or_ vertically. any idea which layout might do that?
[15:08:24] <yann|work> unloading of the prefs service is probably not that much of an issue, but having to wait explicitely for the prefs service to be available before really starting the job seems awkward
[15:08:32] * yann|work looks
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[15:10:53] <philk_> yann|work: anyway... your bundles service would simple only start if the PreferencesService becomes available... I do not see the problem really. You declare in your DS XML that ref = PreferenceService, dynamic 1..1, bind=setPreferenceService and implement the protected void setPreferenceService(PreferenceService service) in your DS component...
[15:11:40] <philk_> yann|work: and you better not read yout the preferences in your bundle activator! Either you use DS or InstanceScope(). Skip the bundle activator!
[15:12:29] <philk_> yann|work: if you want Eclipse give you a nice IPreferenceStore you can use a ScopedPreferenceStore(new InstanceScope()) which will give you also default values.
[15:13:36] <paulweb515_> QaDeS|work: when your Shell changes size, you need to call layout on it do that it resizes everythinig ... at least AFAIK
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[15:14:27] <pmurias> how can i bind an action from a menu to a keyboard shorcut
[15:14:41] <QaDeS|work> ok, can I bind it to the window resize event?
[15:14:56] <pmurias> ideally i would like the keybord shortcut to run a shell script too
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[15:15:22] <pmurias> i want to automate deploying the j2me midlet to the cell phone
[15:16:22] <yann|work> and the ScopedPreferenceStore takes care about all the dependencies onto the Prefs service itself ?
[15:19:33] <paulweb515_> QaDeS|work: I don't see why not
[15:19:56] <paulweb515_> pmurias: if it has a command, you can bind it ... see Preferences>General>Keys
[15:20:27] <briandealwis> pmurias: I'm not aware of any way to do that within Eclipse, though others might have suggestions. I'd instead use a solution outside of Eclipse, like a keyboard launcher, to run a shell script. Or perhaps an ant task?
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[15:21:04] <yann|work> philk_: ah I see now where my tentative use of DS did not work - I just did not add all dependencies of the preferences bundle
[15:21:23] <philk_> yann|work: ok
[15:21:27] <philk_> yann|work: good luck!
[15:22:42] <pmurias> paulweb515_: it doesn't have a command there
[15:23:57] <pmurias> briandealwis: i could bind the key in the window manager , and i could figure how j2me builds the project from it's source
[15:24:00] <paulweb515_> pmurias: then you can't bind a key to it
[15:24:28] <paulweb515_> pmurias: is it something you've contributed, or you would just like to use
[15:24:42] <philk_> paulweb515_: how do I provide a quick menu (+ keybinding)?
[15:24:43] <paulweb515_> pmurias: the second best option is to use CTRL+3 and then type the Menu Item label
[15:25:26] <rcjsuen> QaDeS|work: you can listen for resize events, yes
[15:25:50] <paulweb515_> philk_: we do it for quick menus like Show In
[15:26:16] <philk_> paulweb515_: I know, is this already API? Last time I checked the QuickMenuHandler was internal
[15:27:14] <paulweb515_> philk_: that's different. That's the quickMenu command with a parameter, the locationURI to use for menuContributions
[15:27:45] <paulweb515_> philk_: i.e. you should be able to create your keybinding and use org.eclipse.ui.window.quickMenu and org.eclipse.ui.window.quickMenu.uri
[15:27:59] <philk_> paulweb515_: I will try, thanks
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[15:29:16] <yann|work> philk_: thanks for your help
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[15:29:47] <philk_> yann|work: you are welcome
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[16:07:08] <philk_> paulweb515_: why is my dropdown toolbar item not updated when the IDE boots up? I would like to change its tooltip, but it seems thats not possible? Only after the handler has been activated at least once?
[16:09:26] <paulweb515_> philk_: if you have no handler it won't update, and if you have a handler that hasn't been instantiated it won't update (AFAIK)
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[16:10:49] <philk_> talking of hitting the borders of lazy initialization... so my CopyTo button should list in its tooltip the last target service that was used
[16:11:22] <philk_> paulweb515_: the IDE run/debug toolbar items can display their "last" run in the tooltip... even after workbench restart
[16:12:25] <paulweb515_> philk_: AFAIK that's an actionSet WWPulldownDelegate and Run/Debug has a nasty habit of starting their plugin early
[16:12:48] <philk_> paulweb515_: ah I see. Ok, I will not go that route.
[16:13:35] <philk_> paulweb515_: then it would be nice to have some kind of persisting mechanism for UIElement... so that after the workbench fires up again, the tooltips are read from some storage
[16:16:46] <philk_> paulweb515_: I use ConfigurationScope to persist my "CopyTo" settings over workspace switches and to new workspaces. I would also like to cache some icons that "CopyTo" downloads from the Internet on the fly on the users computer. They are not important, so which location do you suggest?
[16:19:19] <paulweb515_> philk_: within one workspace is easy, just use your plugin state location. For multiple workspaces, though, I'm less sure. The configuration location would need to be writable, and it isn't in some cases
[16:23:49] <philk_> paulweb515_: thats true... How can I figure out if it is writeable?
[16:24:13] <philk_> paulweb515_: so I would have to provide a fallback anyway, in case I cannot persist to ConfigurationScope
[16:24:31] <philk_> paulweb515_: what does the IDE do, when it cannot save the workspace history? I think it just silently fails.
[16:26:41] <paulweb515_> philk_: well, in multi-user mode ConfigurationScope will write to your $HOME/.eclipse/... directory somewhere ... so for that user, it's not per workspace
[16:27:00] <paulweb515_> philk_: maybe the configuration location has a similar fallback mechanism
[16:27:46] <philk_> paulweb515_: but its ok to create new files at the location?
[16:27:51] <philk_> paulweb515_: if possible
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[16:48:30] <philk_> paulweb515_: how can I make separator only visible if there are items above it?
[16:49:17] <paulweb515_> philk_: I'm not sure ... if the sep is the first item in a menu, shouldn't it be invisible?
[16:49:20] <pmurias> paulweb515_: i'm just using mobile tools for java to write a midlet
[16:49:26] <paulweb515_> OK, gotta run
[16:50:19] <philk_> paulweb515_: ok, take care! Its the first but dynamic items above it (zero)
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[17:16:37] <pred2k3> hi, does anybody know of an eclipse uml plugin with sequence diagram support, where I can drag and drop methods and objects?
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[18:04:34] <Captain_Haddock> Hi, I'm pretty sure that in an earlier version of Eclipse, I was able to create "container" folders inside the workspace and create projects inside them. This now does not appear to be possible.
[18:04:37] <Captain_Haddock> Any idea why?
[18:04:53] <rcjsuen> sounds like "working sets"
[18:05:00] <NoobFukaire> I'm not sure what you mean, you can create containers as part of plugins?
[18:06:04] <Captain_Haddock> If my workspace was W:\eclipse , I would create something like W:\eclipse\Foo\Bar and while creating a project, I was able to create it inside W:\eclipse\Foo\Bar\MyProject.
[18:06:30] <Captain_Haddock> Now, I'm forced to use W:\eclipse\MyProject
[18:07:18] <Captain_Haddock> NoobFukaire: does that make sense?
[18:07:37] <NoobFukaire> ok, it's not what I was thinking about, but I don't remember being able to do what you're saying
[18:08:15] <NoobFukaire> like rcjsuen said, working sets will allow you to group projects in W:\eclipse however you want
[18:08:40] <rcjsuen> Captain_Haddock: Isn't that just a matter of unsetting the default location?
[18:09:32] <rcjsuen> I guess not.
[18:09:42] <Captain_Haddock> rcjsuen: Where do you mean?
[18:09:59] <rcjsuen> nm
[18:10:02] <Captain_Haddock> k
[18:10:02] <rcjsuen> my test failed, ignore what I said
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[18:13:41] <Captain_Haddock> Or perhaps, I should try to see if my primary issue is fixed rather than this workaround I'm using... My primary issue is that the main project is in repository A and the plugin project in repository B. Plugins from B need to be nested inside a plugins directory in A which Eclipse never liked.
[18:14:07] <Captain_Haddock> These are CVS repos and PHP projects.
[18:14:44] <briandealwis> rcjsuen, captain_haddock: it worked for me: in the new-plugin-project wizard, untick the default location, select browse, and create a folder wherever; in the new-java-project-browser, choose create project from existing source, select browse, etc.
[18:15:22] <rcjsuen> briandealwis: i have my ws in C:\rcjsuen\ecf-ws, i made a new folder C:\rcjsuen\ecf-ws\nested, then i made a new proj, unset default, set to C:\rcjsuen\ecf-ws\nested\test, it ended up creating C:\rcjsuen\ecf-ws\test
[18:16:13] <briandealwis> rcjsuen: oops, you're right: I mistakenly created it outside of my workspace folder. Weird.
[18:16:23] <rcjsuen> briandealwis: If it's outside there is no problem, yes.
[18:16:49] <briandealwis> captain_haddock: you can choose Import -> Import Existing Projects into Workspace and provide the root of the structure. It will recurse. I do that often, and it works fine even if within the workspace. So you could create the structure outside of Eclipse and then import it.
[18:17:49] <briandealwis> rcjsuen: it works for plug-in projects though
[18:18:18] <rcjsuen> the java proj wiz doesn't use the standard code
[18:18:57] <rcjsuen> I'll need to file a bug later.
[18:20:21] <Captain_Haddock> briandealwis: thanks. So, the projects live outside the workspace in terms of the directory structure, but are included in it?
[18:20:57] <briandealwis> No, they can live under the workspace if they're plugin projects
[18:21:45] <rcjsuen> technically it seems any proj would work
[18:21:51] <rcjsuen> just for the java case you'd have to do copy/paste work
[18:21:58] <briandealwis> And you can import a Java project too
[18:21:59] <rcjsuen> (since the wizard itself is bugged)
[18:22:03] <briandealwis> Right
[18:23:20] <Captain_Haddock> I'm just going to link everything with individual symbolic links :(
[18:24:28] <briandealwis> That shouldn't be necessary: I have several projects like:
[18:24:29] <briandealwis> workspace/
[18:24:29] <briandealwis> repo1/
[18:24:29] <briandealwis> plugin/
[18:24:29] <briandealwis> plugin/
[18:24:29] <briandealwis> repo2/
[18:24:29] <briandealwis> plugin/
[18:24:48] <briandealwis> The import wizard does the Right Thing
[18:24:52] <FauxFaux> Please don't spam.
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[18:31:08] <ExtremeDevilz> Hey Guys
[18:31:29] <ExtremeDevilz> I am coding a irc bot and I have no idea how to add a existing jar file as I need api :(
[18:31:35] <Captain_Haddock> briandealwis: Actually, based on your suggestion, I just created the structure outside the workspace and created project in there. I can now get away with just one symbolic link as before.
[18:31:38] <ExtremeDevilz> dont ask me to use netbeans it sucks
[18:32:30] <FauxFaux> ExtremeDevilz: Project settings. Java build path. Add jar.
[18:32:38] <ExtremeDevilz> <3
[18:32:40] <ExtremeDevilz> thanks
[18:32:55] <Captain_Haddock> briandealwis, rcjsuen, NoobFukaire: thanks for the assistance :)
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[18:47:00] <kronk2002de> hi @all
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[18:47:34] <kronk2002de> does anybody know where eclipse stores things like the last opened workspaces or the last open perspective?
[18:49:21] <rcjsuen> workspaces are saved in eclipse's installation folder
[18:49:25] <rcjsuen> perspective info is in your workspace
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[18:51:13] <kronk2002de> ah, thx rcjsuen - an you tell me the filenames where this information is saved in?
[18:51:39] <kronk2002de> i am trying to prepare eclipse environment for a training and would like to have it clean
[18:53:36] <rcjsuen> isn't that just a matter of having the installation then since the workspace doesn't matter
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[18:55:38] <kronk2002de> well, I provide the eclipse installation and workspaces
[18:56:35] <kronk2002de> but the paths will differ on the maschines the trainees will use
[18:58:00] <rcjsuen> the workspaces is in your configuration/ folder
[18:58:07] <rcjsuen> and the workbench layout is stored in the workbench.xml file
[19:00:16] <kronk2002de> thx rcjsuen
[19:00:21] <kronk2002de> you made my day ;)
[19:00:57] <rcjsuen> nothing a grep can't find
[19:02:45] <kronk2002de> damn windows I have to work with on this pc ;) but yeah, you are right :D
[19:03:30] <kronk2002de> have a great weekend ;) bye
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[20:45:49] <Mathuin> I use the Mach X programmer to flash my Microchip PICs. It's made by CCS and works with their software to provide in-circuit debugging support. Does anyone know if Eclipse can support the Mach X programmer for in-circuit debugging and/or flashing, and if not, how I might go about adding that functionality?
[20:48:06] <NoobFukaire> Mathuin: you'd need to write a set of plugins, you can use JNI (or better JNA) to access any native API that comes with it
[20:48:48] <Mathuin> NoobFukaire: Okay. Will I need a binary like Android uses adb ?
[20:48:57] <NoobFukaire> yeah
[20:49:09] <Mathuin> And what level of information will I need from CCS about the Mach X? "Everything"?
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[21:05:16] <ExtremeDevilz> Nights Guys
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[21:08:02] <philk_> paulweb515_: since which Eclipse version is DS includuded by default?
[21:09:26] <paulweb515_> philk_: I see it in 3.5.x, both in PDE and org.eclipse.equinox.ds_1.1.0
[21:09:34] <paulweb515_> I don't have a 3.4.x version of eclipse handy to check
[21:09:59] <paulweb515_> oh, I do
[21:10:05] <paulweb515_> philk_: it's not in 3.4.2 by default
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[22:07:53] <Traveler0> Hi, I run my program in debug mode... One variable which should not be modified is somehow modified somewhere, so I track this modification. I follow the program flow with the finest granularity. The variable is still changed and I have no clue where/how. Is there a way to put a "break point" on a variable so I get notified when it's modified? (telling by whom and where)
[22:09:53] <pnehrer> Toggle Watchpoint
[22:09:58] <pnehrer> Suspend on Modification
[22:14:10] <Traveler0> Worked :) Thank you very much!
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[23:43:53] <keyhack> With an EJB project, I've created a second Source Folder to put my JUnit tests under, and I'm trying to prevent Eclipse/JBoss plugin from generating the JAR file including the unit tests, any suggestions?
[23:45:44] <fanti> hello! is the checkstyle plugin shipped with the latest eclipse? or what's the difference between checkstyle plugin and the eclipse built in code style tool / formatter ?
[23:47:23] <rcjsuen> fanti: checkstyle does not come shipped with any download package from eclipse.org
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