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[00:18:38] <hrad> what should I do when project ships with a lot of classpath entries including particuler jars ?
[00:20:09] <hrad> should I manually rewrite .classpath to include the directories the jars are in ? because in properties > build path : when I remove them from Libraries section, the state will recover and it will be the same
[00:20:41] <hrad> I never know how to deal with this situation
[00:21:07] <briandealwis> hrad: is this a plain Java project?  Or are you seeking to turn it into a plugin?
[00:21:58] <hrad> briandealwis: plain java project
[00:22:28] <hrad> liferay src 5.2.3 is like this...don't know what is the reason for such a classpath
[00:23:38] <briandealwis> and what's the problem with using Properties -> Build Path -> Library?
[00:25:43] <hrad> I just would like to know the way of converting the classpath where is like 150 entries " <classpathentry kind="lib" path="lib/development/activation.jar"/> " to something like <classpathentry kind="lib" path="lib"/>
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[00:26:19] <hrad> from settings, not manually by modifying the .classpath file
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[00:27:04] <briandealwis> So are you trying to auto-discover the 150 jar files, rather than add them by hand?
[00:31:31] <hrad> when there are 150 entries like this
[00:31:45] <hrad> there is 150 jars in the project explorer
[00:31:59] <hrad> <classpathentry kind="lib" path="lib"/>  seems like nonsense
[00:32:26] <hrad> only way I came up with is create a user library and add those jars in there
[00:33:29] <hrad> is this the way it should be ?
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[00:35:47] <briandealwis> I didn't know you could do that <cpe kind="lib" path="lib"/> and have JDT resolve the jars.
[00:36:08] <hrad> it doesn't work :)
[00:36:20] <briandealwis> Ah, I see ? too bad.
[00:36:36] <briandealwis> You can use the new-plugin-project-from-jars to explode jars into a single project.
[00:36:38] <hrad> actually it worked
[00:37:02] <hrad> but there was some unexpected behavior
[00:37:16] <briandealwis> Does it hide the individual jars?
[00:39:02] <hrad> yes, but there was a problem with resolving some classes, don't know why
[00:39:21] <hrad> but the user library worked perfectely
[00:39:52] <hrad> I just don't know if it should be done like that
[00:46:02] <briandealwis> hrad, it seems suspicious that it works ? I can't see how to create an equivalent entry from the UI.  You might want to file an enhancement against JDT to ask that they provide official support for it.
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[00:51:44] <conan> I'm trying to use springdm to do some testing. I'm geting a PluginConversionException. equinox is creating some eclipse_config dir (I don't see \5\1 in the resulting dir) Could not find a META-INF/MANIFEST.MF, plugin.xml or a fragment.xml in C:\dev\drools\trunk2\org.drools.spring-dm\eclipse_config\org.eclipse.osgi\bundles\5\1\bundlefile.
[00:51:47] <briandealwis> hrad, in the meantime you can use filters: on the Package Explorer, select the view menu -> Filters and then exclude "Libraries in Project".
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[00:53:01] <hrad> briandealwis: cool, thank you...that's handy
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[01:06:23] <diogo_79> hi guys
[01:06:42] <deSilva> diogo_79, hi!
[01:06:42] <diogo_79> i am having a trouble width xdebug
[01:07:12] <diogo_79> when a trying to debug it hangs on 57%
[01:07:23] <diogo_79> the web page lauches the url is correct
[01:07:31] <diogo_79> but i cannot debug
[01:07:47] <diogo_79> any idea
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[01:12:26] <nitind> diogo_79: Possibly try in http://eclipse.org/forums/eclipse.tools.pdt .  Such questions rarely get answers here.
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[01:42:04] <[-jon-]> hi, has anyone managed to get svn working with eclipse?
[01:42:31] <rcjsuen> I know people that use Subversion. So someone out there has.
[01:42:40] <[-jon-]> I keep getting errors when committing =\
[01:42:52] <[-jon-]> with ISVNProgressMonitor
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[01:45:21] <[-jon-]> I would have thought svn would have been in the default eclipse package =\
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[01:47:12] <briandealwis> [-jon-]: this might help: http://www.eclipse.org/forums/index.php?t=msg&goto=500429&
[01:47:43] <[-jon-]> wow briandealwis
[01:47:46] <[-jon-]> google fails me :(
[01:48:04] <[-jon-]> oh nevermind, I saw that
[01:48:05] <briandealwis> "eclipse isvnprogressmonitor errors" did the trick for me!
[01:48:10] <NoobFukaire> I use svn, subversive (the official one)
[01:48:17] <NoobFukaire> works great anymore, used to be a PITA
[01:48:24] <[-jon-]> it seems confusing
[01:48:56] <[-jon-]> NoobFukaire: would you mind listing what addons you actually have?
[01:49:08] <[-jon-]> maybe me not understanding what incubation / mylyn are is my problem
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[01:52:37] <NoobFukaire> you want the SVN team provider in "Collaboration" which is part of the gallileo release
[01:53:10] <[-jon-]> so I can uinstall the mylyn one?
[01:53:32] <NoobFukaire> yeah, unless you want to integrate task management with it
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[01:54:26] <[-jon-]> and what about the connectors?
[01:57:04] <NoobFukaire> SVNKit is a pure java connector, it's slower but should just work
[01:57:15] <NoobFukaire> with JavaHL, you need native libraries installed on your system for it to work
[01:57:47] <[-jon-]> oh
[01:57:49] <[-jon-]> I looked
[01:58:00] <[-jon-]> the default list of addons has an old version of subversion
[01:58:26] <NoobFukaire> I'd go with SVNKit, it will just work
[01:58:36] <NoobFukaire> make sure the right one is selected in preferences->team->svn
[01:58:57] <[-jon-]> I thought I had the latest version
[01:59:08] <[-jon-]> but I guess that the default repo is old :(
[01:59:12] <[-jon-]> hopefully that will fix it
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[01:59:42] <NoobFukaire> with SVNKit, I don't believe you need subversion installed on your machine
[02:00:17] <[-jon-]> you said use SVN kit?
[02:00:30] <[-jon-]> what does "pure java" mean? the language it was written in?
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[02:00:43] <[-jon-]> I wouldnt imagine something like that would be language dependent in eclipse itself
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[02:05:03] <rcjsuen> [-jon-]: something like "what" exactly
[02:05:46] <[-jon-]> nevermind, it was a stupid question
[02:06:09] <[-jon-]> I saw "pure java" and wasnt sure if that meant it only supported java code syncing (which is a retarded assumption) or if it were coded in java
[02:06:13] <NoobFukaire> you can use the svn team provider with type of files or data
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[02:06:38] <NoobFukaire> SVNKit itself is written in java but can be used with any kind of project
[02:06:47] <NoobFukaire> *any type of files or data
[02:06:49] <NoobFukaire> sorry :)
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[02:49:19] <[-jon-]> is there any way to get eclipse to provide the functionality for php that it does for java? =\
[02:50:53] <NoobFukaire> yeah, basically
[02:50:56] <NoobFukaire> install PDT
[02:50:59] <[-jon-]> PDT?
[02:51:07] <NoobFukaire> it's in the gallileo update site
[02:52:11] <[-jon-]> it is installed
[02:53:08] <[-jon-]> do I need to install anything seperately?
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[02:54:41] <deSilva> My menu item selection listeners makes my code hard to read. I was thinking of breaking out, and thereby subclassing, the SelectionListener definitions but then I would have to add constructors to them so any variables they need are available (since they wouldn't be anonymous classes anymore)? How do people usually go about this?
[02:59:21] <deSilva> was my question at all parseable? :)
[03:01:29] <rcjsuen> if my listeners are too complicated then I just suck it up and make them their own (inner?) classes and/or split them up into multiple methods so it's readable
[03:02:09] <deSilva> rcjsuen: I think they make the containing code less readable
[03:02:29] <rcjsuen> what are you referring to when you say "they"
[03:02:55] <deSilva> the selectionlisteners
[03:03:27] <rcjsuen> well it's the standard java observer pattern
[03:03:31] <rcjsuen> if you're annoyed by the two methods
[03:03:41] <rcjsuen> you could just instantiate an anonymous SelectionAdapter instead
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[03:05:06] <deSilva> hmm
[03:05:49] <[-jon-]> eclipes isnt telling me any errors or suggesting anything for php. is this supported for php?
[03:06:10] <deSilva> ok, that gets rid of widgetDefaultSelected if I don't actually need it?
[03:06:31] <rcjsuen> deSilva: well, it has its own empty implementation
[03:06:45] <rcjsuen> which just means that empty method doesn't have to be in _your_ code cluttering it up
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[03:10:45] <deSilva> right, that makes my selectionlisteners somewhat shorter. say I still would like to break them out, I would have to provide appropriate non-trivial constructors for them to get access to any variables they might need?
[03:11:19] <rcjsuen> Pretty much.
[03:12:25] <deSilva> or I suppose I could factorize what widgetSelected() actually does
[03:12:45] <deSilva> that + togheter with SelectionAdapter should make it a lot more readable
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[03:23:49] <mgaffney> Hello, I'm trying to do some simple SDL tutorials in eclipse. When I run from the command line on ubuntu 9.10 things work fine. When I run from eclipse I get the following and it doesnt run http://pastie.org/817555
[03:24:03] <mgaffney> this is C++ under the CDT
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[03:30:27] <manster> hey guys anyone here had success seting up the facebook-java api? please help. i have been strugling to do this for weeks
[03:30:36] <manster> there is no readme included in the package. i dont know where all the files are supposed to go within my project. so many crucial details just not even touched on
[03:31:16] <nitind> Have they no place to discuss this with other users of facebook-java?
[03:31:38] <manster> well i'm using eclipse
[03:31:45] <manster> specifically the gwt for eclipse
[03:32:11] <manster> and the question i'm asking tracsecnds too many groups for me to leave it out of here
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[04:29:39] <[-jon-]> when I try to change a property for a svn-checked out project I amg etting Core Exception when storing project properties
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[04:56:39] <armhy> anybody use eclipse for embedded dev? I am trying to figure out how i can view all my processor's hardware registers? any clues would be helpful.
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[04:57:25] <marcosRz> anyone using openjdk?
[04:57:35] <marcosRz> seriously is working really bad
[04:57:41] <marcosRz> I'll go back to sunjdk :(
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[05:26:12] <muri_one> is this an appropriate place for cdt questions?
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[05:47:55] <fannagoganna> yes i use openjdk
[05:47:57] <fannagoganna> it works fine
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[06:22:38] <sebersole> so are patch files with a "### Eclipse Workspace Patch 1.0" header a standard diff ?
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[07:21:04] <trev> Anybody around to answer a question?
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[07:21:22] <nitind> ~ask
[07:21:22] <Arbalest> If you have a question, just ask, don't ask if you can ask a question. Skip the "meta-questions" like asking whether anyone uses X also as a precursor to check whether anyone can help you with a problem you have with X. Just ask the real question you have about X.
[07:22:17] <trev> I've edited a file with eclipse, but now I can only view the parts that have been changed in eclipse and vim, but not gedit.  Any ideas as to why?
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[07:26:39] <nitind> Sounds like a gedit bug.  Did you reopen gedit after saving in Eclipse/vim?
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[07:27:36] <trev> i made the edit in eclipse months ago, and was just poking around with gedit and bluefish today
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[07:28:03] <trev> Neither of those two will display the parts that changed
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[07:31:55] <trev> Same deal with notepad through wine
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[09:55:39] <Speedy1> www.search2.net
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[10:01:36] <Kudd> I love how pdt is unstable as hell
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[10:18:58] <Lewoco> Is it possible to link a folder (outside the project path) into the project using a relative path?
[10:19:47] <Lewoco> I tried specifying the path using ..\.. but the resulting link didn't work at all.
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[10:27:07] <philk__> does the Equinox EventAdmin impl logs sent events?
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[11:09:49] <rumpsy> how to install FDT in eclipse 3.3
[11:10:20] <rumpsy> i added a remotesite to remotesite to install, but its end with error
[11:10:36] <rumpsy> i added a remotesite  to install, but its end with error
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[11:15:09] <hkais> hello all
[11:15:23] <hkais> anyone here who uses CDT and a UnitTesting Framework inside?
[11:15:35] <hkais> if so which plugins do you use?
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[11:26:44] <muri_one> does cdt do a better job of looking up symbols than ctags?
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[12:19:12] <Lindzey> how do I resolve condition in assignment errors
[12:19:13] <Lindzey> ??
[12:21:32] <rcjsuen> I'm not even sure what that error means
[12:21:37] <rcjsuen> i suggest you put your code in a ~pastebin
[12:21:38] <Arbalest> Please paste the relevant information onto a pastebin. The submission will then generate a URL, please copy/paste the generated URL back to the channel - http://www.pastebin.cz/ - http://papernapkin.org/pastebin/home - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[12:21:44] <rcjsuen> it's not even clear what programming language you're using at the moment
[12:24:51] <Kudd> :D
[12:25:24] <rcjsuen> muri_one: You can ask CDT questions here or on the forums.
[12:33:08] <Lindzey> it is related to https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=272936 and http://help.eclipse.org/help33/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.jdt.doc.user/reference/preferences/java/compiler/ref-preferences-errors-warnings.htm
[12:33:40] <Lindzey> I am using eclipse for PHP which means if ( $a = 1 ) is legal in PHP but gives a warning in eclipse
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[12:36:58] <dieck> hi! when I use javas Integer.parseInt() in eclipse 3.5.1, this may throw a NumberFormatException, but eclipse does not hint it, nor offers to insert throw or try/catch, as with other Exceptions. and no, there is no throw or try/catch set for this statement
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[12:37:36] <rcjsuen> dieck: Read up on runtime exceptions for the Java language.
[12:38:38] <jink> It works just fine, realy.
[12:38:41] <jink> really*
[12:39:08] <jink> Just select the line with the Integer.parseInt() or the block you want to wrap, then surround with -> try/catch
[12:39:29] <jink> Gives me a try/catch block with a NumberFormatException.
[12:40:43] <jink> Aah, ok, sure.  rcjsuen is right.  You won't get warnings about RuntimeExceptions.
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[12:46:13] <fist> hey guys, i had some strange problems so i did "project -> clean" .. and now eclipse does not compile the files anymore
[12:46:22] <fist> always running into: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:
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[13:05:39] <abracadabra> Hi, I mostly program c# in visual studio but I have started to program a bit in java recently aswell and I choosed to use eclipse as it seems like a great tool. one little question though. If I have a file with a class and try to make another class in the same file, not inside the other class, just two standarlone classes. Eclipse says "The Public type MyClass must be defined in it's own file.
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[13:06:03] <abracadabra> but when I downloaded sample code which has several classes inside the same file it doesn't complain at all. why is this?
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[13:06:59] <Rayaken> remove the public from the class line
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[13:07:19] <bcave> hi
[13:07:58] <rcjsuen> fist: Do the .class files exist physically on disk?
[13:08:30] <abracadabra> Rayaken it worked. so the only class to have public is the class with the same name as the file, am I right?
[13:08:30] <bcave> is birt in eclipse updates site?
[13:08:45] <rcjsuen> bcave: I'm pretty sure it is.
[13:08:47] <Rayaken> abracadabra: yes
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[13:09:05] <abracadabra> thanks
[13:10:49] <bcave> ta rcjsuen
[13:10:58] <bcave> anyone install CLIF plugins by any change?
[13:11:01] <bcave> s/change/chance/
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[13:17:51] <abracadabra> one quick question. why does java methods start with a low-case letter like toString when in c# you write ToString. is there some places where methods start with a capital letter in java?
[13:17:59] <abracadabra> or why is that?
[13:18:33] <rcjsuen> abracadabra: Naming conventions.
[13:18:43] <rcjsuen> A Java developer could ask the same thing why do C# methods start with a capital letter.
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[13:21:16] <abracadabra> rcjsuen yeah that is true. I just thought if there where some smart answer to it like in java "something something does this insteed of in c# which does this...thats why"
[13:21:38] <abracadabra> rcjsuen thanks for the answer now I know it's just a name convention
[13:21:53] <rcjsuen> I mean, you could use capitals if you want, up to you.
[13:24:31] <abracadabra> rcjsuen yeah but I rather follow the java way of doing it. not that big of a deal I was just curious. since the languages are pretty much the same in syntaxes etc
[13:28:06] <bcave> abracadabra: because C# is Microsoft and java is sun
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[13:30:09] <hell> doew anyone use mylyn web template with redmine?
[13:32:00] <hell> i get an login screen
[13:32:21] <hell> instead of page with issues, in "new query"
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[13:50:52] <philk_> which JUnit bundle should I use for unit tests in Eclipse 3.x? I have org.junit(3.8.2), org.junit(4.8.1), org.junit4(4.7)
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[14:06:19] <deSilva> I have a sashform with two parts, the first contains a Tree and the second contains a label. Now I want to replace the label with an image (png) for which I have the URL. How do I do that?
[14:08:38] <rcjsuen> Doesn't Label have a method to set an image
[14:10:31] <deSilva> oh yeah! let me investigate how to create the Image object
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[14:19:23] <deSilva> that worked, but it's not big enough. How do i add scrollbars?
[14:23:42] <paulweb515> philk_: if you can use the 4.x version, go for it.  org.junit4 is what we shipped before we "fixed" the automated test framework, org.junit 4.8.1 is what we ship after we fixed it
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[14:24:36] <rcjsuen> deSilva: A Label is not a Scrollable. I suppose you could use try using a Composite or a ScrolledComposite.
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[14:25:12] <philk_> paulweb515: yes it works great. Even when testing OSGi bundles
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[14:34:27] <abracadabra> when having a class like for example Car with some methods like start engine etc. what is most likely the toString method will do with such an object?
[14:34:44] <abracadabra> write out all the data members values of that object?
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[14:34:58] <abracadabra> oh sorry wrong channel should be in java
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[14:48:07] <philk_> it would be nice if the workbench would persist some settings like code templates and such not in the workspace but the installation area of Eclipse. Everytime I fire up a new workspace I have to change all settings again
[14:48:39] <philk_> also things like the installed JREs
[14:53:10] <philk_> whats eMoose?
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[15:21:42] <bcave> im installing a plugin that requires xerces, birt, emf and wst
[15:21:51] <bcave> is xerces there by default?
[15:22:36] <philk_> paulweb515: i see that some code of the Workbench does not call IMenuService.releaseContributions when creating a MenuManager with contributions. Is not not required?
[15:22:42] <rcjsuen> it should just be brought in by the provisioning system
[15:22:55] <philk_> paulweb515: : or is that done when the menu manager is disposed?
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[15:31:17] <multiHYP> hi peeps
[15:31:36] <bcave> :/
[15:31:57] <bcave> ive copied plugins into my plugins dir and restarted eclipse, but not registering the plugin, think its a dependency problem
[15:32:06] <bcave> where can i find a log?
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[15:35:42] <paulweb515> philk_: it depends on which part is doing the call ... if the MenuManager exists forever, then there wouldn't be a releaseContributions
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[15:37:16] <philk_> paulweb515: i believe it was the default menuContribution that I saw doing that
[15:38:01] <philk_> who can help with databinding here? My cell editor does not react on text changes and therefore never gets "dirty" to update its model
[15:38:39] <philk_> http://pastebin.com/m26b29ec8
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[16:27:02] <philk_> rcjsuen: how can I make my TrayDialog resizable?
[16:27:20] <rcjsuen> probably by extending it and overriding the style bit i guess
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[16:28:18] <philk_> rcjsuen: yes. setShellStyle()
[16:30:10] <philk_> how come, once I selected some entry in the table i can no longer deselect it by clicking somewhere else in the table?
[16:31:03] <rcjsuen> Isn't that the same in Windows Explorer
[16:31:25] <rcjsuen> Guess not.
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[16:34:58] <philk_> rcjsuen: uhm no... you can always deselect items
[16:35:10] <rcjsuen> Yes, I observed it in Explorer.
[16:35:26] <rcjsuen> Altho for trees it seems to not be possible
[16:35:32] <rcjsuen> at least, not in explorer
[16:35:52] <rcjsuen> altho in explorer i still see the outline
[16:35:56] <rcjsuen> altho it's no longer highlighted in blue
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[17:12:27] <philk_> rcjsuen: how would you feed CopyTo some initial pastebin urls? Using a DefaultScope() or an InstanceScope()?
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[17:15:34] <rcjsuen> well one's a default and one's the workspace metadata prefs, i believe
[17:16:04] <philk_> rcjsuen: right... I could have a PreferenceInitializer that sets up some default values either in the InstanceScope or in the DefaultScope
[17:16:24] <philk_> just so that the "Reset to default" in the preference page would work as expected.
[17:17:12] <philk_> rcjsuen: or just not support that feature and put all initial copyto targets in the instance scope
[17:17:22] <rcjsuen> well
[17:17:28] <rcjsuen> you could just remove the apply/defaults buttons from the pref page
[17:17:36] <rcjsuen> i don't imagine a lot of people pressing "defaults" on that pp myself
[17:17:40] <philk_> rcjsuen: yes
[17:18:33] <philk_> thats the easiest one for now to do.
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[17:25:23] <smoky> Hey all, I have just exported an OSGi product and none of the bundles start automatically. The project works in Eclipse. The export includes ds. Any ideas?
[17:30:19] <briandealwis> smoky: I'm not an expert, but have been fighting similar issues over the last couple of days.  This is an Eclipse-based product, right?  Are you including org.eclipse.equinox.simpleconfigurator?  Or what does your config.ini look like?
[17:31:51] <smoky> it uses Equinox so yeh :)... http://pastebin.com/d3e0649ac
[17:33:00] <smoky> @briandealwis: The setup part always seams tricky
[17:33:10] <briandealwis> :-)
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[17:33:28] <atula> how do I remove a plugin?
[17:33:39] <briandealwis> smoky: I don't see any SWT or GUI-like plugins there.  Is this Swing-based?
[17:34:05] <briandealwis> smoky: you don't have an application listed.
[17:34:17] <smoky> yeh, line 19, & 20
[17:34:35] <smoky> when I do start 1 2 3 .... etc it all works fine
[17:34:46] <smoky> just DS doesn't seam to be starting the bundles
[17:35:06] <atula> just delete the .jar files and folder from eclipse plugin folder ?
[17:35:46] <atula> yeah that did it
[17:35:51] <atula> not sure if it's safe/clean though
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[17:36:18] <smoky> @atula: you might get some left over data.. But hopefully not much
[17:36:28] <atula> hopefully :)
[17:36:30] <briandealwis> smoky: so I'm flailing out of my depths here, but I'd only expect DS to start bundles in response to a request.
[17:37:24] <smoky> DS should look at each bundle for a service-component.. Within that config file it describes what the bundle expects
[17:37:51] <smoky> it all works when running in Eclipse..
[17:38:39] <briandealwis> Are you running from clicking the debug or run icons from your .product file?
[17:38:50] <smoky> exporting then running the exe
[17:39:00] <briandealwis> I meant when running from within Eclipse.
[17:39:44] <smoky> I see.. the product doesn't work within eclipse.. The manual startup setup I made works.. And the product is based off that
[17:42:22] <briandealwis> I wonder if you had your gui app marked to auto-start.  You can set the auto-start in the product -> configuration.
[17:43:09] <philk_> rcjsuen: hmmm the preference initializer is always called...
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[17:56:47] <Hect> hi!
[17:57:20] <Hect> There's a bundle A that needs bundle B, then there's bundle B that needs A
[17:57:39] <Hect> how could I solve this situation? Eclipse is complaining about cycle references
[17:57:55] <rcjsuen> well, the most obvious way would be to split a new bundle C
[17:58:15] <rcjsuen> or you could tell the tooling to stop complaining, i believe you can tone down the warning/error in the prefs
[17:59:04] <Lindzey> I am using eclipse for PHP which means if ( $a = 1 ) is legal in PHP but gives a warning in eclipse. how do i resolve this
[18:01:44] <briandealwis> lindzey: I don't use PHP, but there may be a preference to downgrade the warning.  Look in the preferences for the PHP tooling for something like "Errors/Warnings".
[18:04:25] <Kudd> again the same question about php? lol
[18:07:46] <Lindzey> k thanks briandealwis
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[18:09:36] <Lindzey> underneath Preferences > PHP itself or, im not seeing it
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[18:12:00] <simion314> hi, what tools can i use for swing in eclipse? a nice designer easy to use
[18:12:28] <briandealwis> lindzey: it was just a guess.  I'd expect it to be under Preferences > PHP somewhere.  You can use the search filter to try to narrow it down (e.g., "warnings")
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[18:15:25] <marcosRz> hello
[18:16:29] <marcosRz> guys I'm getting this error "Build path specifies execution environment CDC-1.0/Foundation-1.0. There are no JREs installed in the workspace that are strictly compatible with this environment." I've googled but didn't found on how to fix that
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[18:17:27] <rcjsuen> http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Execution_Environments
[18:17:28] <rcjsuen> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Execution_Environment_Descriptions
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[18:22:20] <simion314> i found many plugins for swing designer for eclipse and i need a sugestions what to use? the best free eclipse swing plugin
[18:22:27] <marcosRz> rcjsuen, so I need to install phoneME or soemthing like CDC compatible?
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[18:23:16] <rcjsuen> http://eclipsesource.com/blogs/2009/11/18/compile-errors-ee/
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[18:25:10] <marcosRz> rcjsuen, thanks very much :)
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[18:31:31] <rcjsuen> marcosRz: Doesn't really matter. If you use the EE files then it should just handle the problems for you.
[18:31:52] <marcosRz> cool
[18:32:02] <marcosRz> I'm checking out / learning the ECF src code ;)
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[19:05:15] <simion314> i can't find where do you remove plugins in eclipse from the menu
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[19:19:04] <briandealwis> simion314: do you want to remove menu items?  (If so, look at Window -> Customize Perspective)
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[19:23:48] <gangil> how can I search for keywords in gthe whole project in eclipse
[19:23:49] <gangil> ?
[19:23:57] <gangil> I am working with galileo
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[19:25:35] <simion314> briandealwis: no, i searched for some swing plugin, found one,install it from Help-> Install new Software  but i found out that is not free, i want it removed
[19:26:34] <briandealwis> simion314: You can rollback to a previous configuration from About -> Installation Details -> Installation History.
[19:26:59] <briandealwis> A checkpoint is made every time you install new features
[19:27:30] <gangil> ^
[19:29:27] <rcjsuen> gangil: I guess you want Ctrl+H
[19:29:38] <nitind> gangil: Have you checked the Search menu's "File" option?
[19:31:56] <gangil> thanks :)
[19:32:02] <gangil> solved
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[19:40:10] <armhy> anybody use eclipse for embedded development?
[19:40:33] <armhy> i'm interested in making a plugin to display the peripheral registers on my device during debug.. how might i go about doing that?
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[19:51:47] <Ganang> hi friends! one question, and i am not sure if i can do it. I use Texlipse to write my texts in latex. I love the plugin, however one thing is annoying. I wanted to write the text, and get it justified.The text alignment makes difficult for me to read the texts.Does anyone know how to overcome this problem?
[19:52:51] <Ganang> of course, once gets compiled, everything is fine. What i mean is that i wanted to align the text correctly, while editing
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[20:06:28] <Emil> what kind of packages do i require from cygwin to use it with eclipse for c programming?
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[20:19:09] <nemo> Ok. So.  Why is it I can't uninstall subclipse?
[20:19:22] <nemo> I've tried both as root (in case I installed it there) and as myself.
[20:19:34] <nemo> it isn't installed as a package...
[20:19:43] <nemo> yet is visible to both root and user. hrm
[20:19:53] <nemo> can I forcibly remove it from filesystem?
[20:20:05] <nemo> w/o screwing things up too much I mean?
[20:21:00] <briandealwis> nemo: You can rollback to a previous configuration from About -> Installation Details -> Installation History.  A checkpoint is made every time you install new features
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[20:21:40] <briandealwis> ganang: I never noticed such an option with TeXclipse when I used it.  I'd recommend filing an enhancement request with the project.
[20:22:40] <Ganang> briandealwis: Thanks for your answer. Well at least for me makes some difference, for better reading before compiling it.
[20:22:59] <Ganang> briandealwis: maybe i send a message
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[20:47:47] <nemo> briandealwis: bit confused why I can't remove it though. also, if I do that, I presumably have to reinstall everything added past that point
[20:50:18] <briandealwis> Ah, I forgot: from the Installation Details, the first tab ("Installed Software") allows you to uninstall particular features.
[20:50:25] <nemo> yeah
[20:50:32] <nemo> only it didn't allow me to uninstall it. even as root
[20:50:41] <nemo> went to /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins
[20:50:44] <nemo> and moved out subclipse
[20:50:49] <nemo> going to see if things still work
[20:51:03] <briandealwis> Make sure you run with '-clean' too
[20:52:50] <nemo> mm
[20:53:12] * nemo crosses fingers
[20:54:39] <nemo> agh
[20:54:45] <nemo> subclipse is still listed (uninstallable)
[20:54:51] <nemo> and now subversive has vanished...
[20:55:08] <nemo> I mean, it is installed, shows in plugin list, just doesn't seem to be doing anything.
[20:57:10] <nemo> yep. if I rolled back I'd lose everything
[20:57:12] <nemo> !@#$
[20:58:51] <briandealwis> nemo: That kind of surgery really isn't supported any more.  You can create a new Eclipse install and pull out features from your old install:   http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_i_copy_plugins_between_eclipse_installations_with_p2.3F
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[20:59:40] <nemo> eclipse plugins have always ended up resulting in my doing a complete clean install
[21:02:22] <nemo> ah well
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[21:12:25] <dnlrg> hi, anyone using eclipse on debian squeeze?
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[21:26:38] <Kud> is there any way to disable secure master?
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[21:27:04] <Kud> storage*
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[21:35:12] <rcjsuen> dnlrg: Taking a poll?
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[21:41:26] <NetTalk> how may i connect to ftp(which allows me to make live webproject´s file)with eclipse?
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[21:46:38] <nitind> Kud: Off hand I'd say no, but why?  All of the supported VMs offer the necessary bits for it to work.
[21:47:29] <nitind> NetTalk: DSDP's Target Management project's Remote System Explorer could do that. ~tm
[21:47:29] <Arbalest> Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
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[21:50:47] <NetTalk> <nitind> hello nitiñd
[21:51:28] <NetTalk> could u please give me a link of following plugin ???
[21:52:21] <nitind> NetTalk: http://download.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/updates/3.1/
[21:52:46] <NetTalk> thanks buddy
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[22:00:59] <armhy> this is a sucky eclipse discussion... lotta people here but no talky
[22:01:06] <armhy> theres got to be a better chan
[22:01:07] <armhy> ?
[22:01:40] <rcjsuen> armhy: I don't think there's any other IRC channels.
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[22:02:01] <rcjsuen> Or rather, there are other Eclipse-related channels but this one has the most people by far.
[22:02:14] <nitind> armhy: Better would be very subjective.  What exactly are you looking for?
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[22:03:03] <armhy> i'm doing embedded development and i'm interested in making a plugin to display the peripheral registers on my device during debug.. how might i go about doing that?
[22:04:05] <nitind> Im not sure IRC is the right context for such an involved and complicated question (at least if you want to proprely integrate into the Variables view using the Debug frameworks).
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[22:06:18] <NetTalk> RSE CDT Remote Launcher (1.0.1.v20061215a-----1G955G797Eo) requires feature "org.eclipse.cdt".
[22:06:32] <nitind> NetTalk: Then don't install that feature.
[22:06:32] <NetTalk> I m having this following error message
[22:06:42] <nitind> NetTalk: Assuming you have no use for CDT anyway.
[22:07:17] <NetTalk> then what should i do ?
[22:07:24] <NetTalk> could u please help me abit more
[22:08:07] <rcjsuen> Seems like you selected too much stuff
[22:08:11] <rcjsuen> try going back and unchecking some stuff
[22:08:16] <nitind> NetTalk: Is there anything that just has "FTP" in its label?  That's probably all you need to select.
[22:08:32] <NetTalk> ok, let me check
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[22:17:16] <NetTalk> after successfully updated, now i m having an error "Problem Opening perspective 'org.eclipse.rse.ui.view.SystemPrespective'"
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[22:20:07] <briandealwis> nettalk: What does your log say?
[22:23:31] <NetTalk> just simply having following error while trying to open perspective
[22:26:49] <rcjsuen> That's usually a non-fatal error.
[22:27:00] <rcjsuen> At least, the workbench will continue to function.
[22:27:27] <dnlrg> hi rcjsuen. Nope, I have some issues with Eclipse 3.5 SR1
[22:28:20] <nitind> dnlrg: But is it specific to Lenny?
[22:29:35] <NetTalk> havent found any error else
[22:29:39] <NetTalk> ?
[22:30:22] <dnlrg> I didn't try with lenny, I'm using testing aka squeeze
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[22:31:20] <nitind> dnlrg: Forget the Debian part of this for now, what issue are you having?
[22:31:24] <rcjsuen> You may get more mileage if you elaborated on what these "some issues" actually are.
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[22:34:06] <dnlrg> yeah sorry about that. I'm using eclipse with pdt, and the new projects window doesn't respond to mouse clicks, i have to use tab+enter to opereta
[22:34:41] <nitind> dnlrg: You've tried setting the GDK_NATIVE_WINDOW variable as indicated in the channel faq?
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[22:41:16] <dnlrg> nitind, it works fine with GDK_NATIVE_WINDOW=true. Thank you very much. I'm sorry, i didn't read faq before
[22:41:59] <Kud> is there someone here who uses eclipse at home and at work?
[22:43:16] <nitind> Possibly lots.  Taking a poll?
[22:43:42] <Kud> no, the thing is i'm bored to change my settings at home and at work
[22:43:51] <Kud> and i'd like to have something like "weaver" (mozilla)
[22:43:54] <Kud> but for eclipse
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[22:53:51] <briandealwis> kud: I use a laptop, but different eclipse versions, so a weaver solution sounds nice.  For now I just export my preferences & detail formatters whenever I make a change, and reload them periodically.
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[22:58:49] <nitind> bored?  weaver?  what?
[22:59:33] <nitind> Kud: Move as many settings into your projects as you can, then.
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[23:00:14] <KWhat_Work> anyone know why my color is not displaying when viewing an xml document
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[23:02:14] <Emil> having some problems getting cygwin and eclipse working. installed the newest eclipse, cdt and cygwin. all im getting is 'launch failed. binary not found' and an inclusion error. why does this have to be so hard?
[23:02:29] <KWhat_Work> and where does the perspective table store is settings.,
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[23:04:27] <nitind> KWhat_Work: Is it recognized as an XML document?  Are you opening it in the XML Editor?
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[23:05:00] <KWhat_Work> nitind: im right clicking open with -> text edior
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[23:05:12] <nitind> KWhat_Work: That's not the XML Editor.  That's the plain text editor.
[23:05:37] <KWhat_Work> ohh there we go, i wanted the soruce view not design view
[23:05:52] <miglo> hello, I've problems with eclipse under linux. cannot create java proc
[23:05:59] <miglo> projects
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[23:06:37] <nitind> miglo: You have JDT installed?  If Eclipse was installed using a packaging system like yum, you might not have it.
[23:07:20] <miglo> nitind: I have downloaded a tar.gz archive directly from eclipse.org
[23:07:36] <nitind> miglo: Which one, exactly?
[23:07:55] <miglo> I have some error messages on the console about gconf and dbus-launch
[23:08:37] <miglo> Build id: 20090920-1017
[23:08:47] <nitind> miglo: No, the *file name*.
[23:09:37] <miglo> eclipse-java-galileo-SR1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[23:10:18] <nitind> miglo: ~info , and can you elaborate on "cannot create java projects"?
[23:10:18] <Arbalest> Please state a) your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), b) operating system (Windows, Linux, OSX, etc.), c) your Java runtime environment (please verify by checking your ~logs or in the about dialog's ~jre section. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), d) your Eclipse version, and e) where did you get Eclipse from (eclipse.org, distro repository, etc.).
[23:12:12] <miglo> uf, a lot of information. I think that the generated error log contains all of this.
[23:14:38] <nitind> miglo: Why not start with elaborating on what's not working?
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[23:16:05] <miglo> nitind: when the appropriate "create project" dialog is open nothing happens when I click on the "next" or "finish" button
[23:16:35] <rcjsuen> ~gtk218
[23:16:35] <Arbalest> Buttons in dialogs not working? Is the tree in the install dialog empty? Are you using GTK+ 2.18? See here for more details - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Eclipse_buttons_in_dialogs_and_other_places_are_not_working_for_me_if_I_click_them_with_the_mouse._I_also_cannot_see_anything_in_the_tree_when_I_try_to_install_updates._What.27s_going_on.3F
[23:21:19] <dnlrg> miglo: try SR2
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[23:22:57] <manster> hey guys how do i add jdk to my jre project libraries
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[23:23:09] <manster> all it allows me to do is to add a jre
[23:23:21] <manster> there seems to be no option to add a needed jdk
[23:23:36] <rcjsuen> in your installed jres pref page, add whatever you want
[23:23:36] <manster> and i need to compile my jsp files
[23:23:54] <manster> it says its already added my jdk
[23:24:08] <manster> when in actuallity all thats there is the jre files
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[23:26:13] <nitind> manster: All its looking for are jar files.  The executables don't matter there.
[23:26:59] <nitind> manster: To compile your JSP files, you need the correct servlet APIs.  Those usually come from your server.
[23:27:17] <manster> yes i have that setup
[23:27:28] <manster> nitind, i'm using open jdk
[23:27:43] <manster> nitind, within the open jdk directory i only find a jre folder
[23:28:02] <nitind> manster: No, you add the main JDK folder itself.  The "jre" folder in a JDK isn't something to pick.
[23:28:31] <manster> nitind, yes and then eclipse just describes it as a jre library once i add it
[23:28:55] <manster> nitind, not jdk lib like i want
[23:29:25] <rcjsuen> what do you mean "describe it as a jre library"
[23:29:25] <nitind> manster: And what we're trying to get you to understand is that it doesn't matter.  You have the necessary libraries for your runtime environment.
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[23:30:46] <manster> nitind, oh okay. yes my server has all the libs i need. i was just confused about why eclipse wouldnt label it jdk
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[23:38:36] <RSWD> Is there a way to get Eclipse to change which files are open when you change perspectives?
[23:38:57] <rcjsuen> RSWD: No, there is no support for that out-of-the-box. The API is technically there.
[23:39:16] <RSWD> rcjsuen: Is there a plugin for this already, or would I have to write my own?
[23:39:27] <rcjsuen> No idea. I do not have this need so I never investigated.
[23:39:42] <RSWD> It's not a need, it's more of a want.
[23:39:43] <RSWD> But hey.
[23:40:09] <RSWD> Thanks
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[23:53:59] <miglo> it's not that all of the buttons are not working, only the 'next' and 'finish' buttons of this 'create java project' dialog won't let me continue to create entirely the desired project :(
[23:54:32] <briandealwis> miglo: are the buttons enabled or greyed out?
[23:54:38] <rcjsuen> miglo: did you look at what Arbalest said above?
[23:54:48] <miglo> they are enabled
[23:55:16] <miglo> cpu arch: x86, os: linux, jre: OpenJDK 6.0-b17, eclipse: eclipse-java-galileo-SR1-linux-gtk, 20090920-1017, from www.eclipse.org/downloads, gtk-version: gtk2.0-binver-2.10.0
[23:55:27] <briandealwis> miglo: have you checked your log for tracebacks?
[23:57:01] <miglo> do you mean such an error log like 'hs_err_pid4923.log'?
[23:57:07] <briandealwis> miglo: I mean tracebacks occurring in response to clicking on the buttons?  (or are the dbus messages occurring in response)
[23:57:16] <dnlrg> miglo: did you try with export GDK_NATIVE_WINDOWS=true?
[23:57:43] <miglo> dnlrg: no, but will try it now
[23:58:45] <dnlrg> i have the same problem using sr1 with pdt and that solve the problem
[23:59:21] <miglo> hm, whenever I quit eclipse I'm getting the following: A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment
[23:59:31] <dnlrg> also i tied eclipse sr2 rc2 and seems that the problem is fixed

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