[00:07:11] <rcjsuen> NoobFukaire: cool, i guess my explanation wasn't _too_ obscure
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[00:18:54] <thehurley> hello,
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[09:50:17] <matrium> Hi
[09:51:03] <matrium> I want to move a couple of resources in the workspace and wrote a workspace job for that
[09:52:39] <matrium> but there's always an  ResouceException thrown: http://nopaste.info/d72bccc8cf.html
[09:52:47] <matrium> but the resources are moved correctly
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[10:35:43] <hvrauhal> How can I set the height to a section so that it only gets that height when expanded?
[10:37:05] <hvrauhal> I've got a form with three sections, one at the top that contains constant size widgets, which works fine. Then under that I've got a section which I would like to contain a jfreechart chart made with jfreechart composite, and under that another section that contains the same data in a table.
[10:37:36] <hvrauhal> Now my problem is that I can't get the chart section to fold properly, leaving the space for the table..
[10:37:40] <hvrauhal> All these are in a gridlayout.
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[10:39:11] <hvrauhal> If I set the layout data for both the lower sections to new GridData(SWT.FILL, SWT.FILL, true, true);, they both consume half of the available space. But folding one does not make the other one consume the space.
[10:39:28] <hvrauhal> I've got expansionlisteners in the sections that call managedForm.reflow(true)...
[10:39:34] <hvrauhal> Any ideas?
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[11:25:06] <hell> hello. how i can use tomcat's runas/debugas in custom ant build project, like when i create dynamic web project?
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[12:10:11] <hell> so, what the right way, to communicate with eclipse 'natures', seems like i will compare and add needed settings in .settings by hands?
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[12:30:24] <hell> oh ok, i do the trick.
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[12:43:40] <rcjsuen> hvrauhal: At the end of the day it's still a grid. So there is no reason for the otherh alf to suddenly span two columns.
[12:44:06] <rcjsuen> hell: Yes, people just do the the diffing manually.
[12:44:51] <rcjsuen> actually, rereading your comment it sounds like they're both in the same column
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[13:13:58] <Hyppias> downloaded eclipse, unzipped in c:\eclipse. running eclipse.exe flashes the splash and exits immediately. What is wrong ? what must I do ?
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[13:16:45] <private_meta> Hyppias: tried starting it in the command promt to look if any errors are returned?
[13:17:28] <Hyppias> yes I did: nothing there
[13:18:31] <private_meta> how about starting with the parameter -consoleLog?
[13:18:36] <Hyppias> I got java 1.6.0_16. that OK ?
[13:18:56] <private_meta> should be, I had that one too
[13:19:20] <Hyppias> consolelog same thing: splash flash
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[13:20:23] <private_meta> aye, -debug, that's the one I meant - anything in there?
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[13:20:49] <Jaimie> Ive been using this page to help me start using cdt in eclipse: http://max.berger.name/howto/cdt/ar01s04.jsp#d0e450 but where he has the new c++ project i dont see it, ive tried resetting perpective but its not helped. can anyone help me with this please?
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[13:21:27] <rcjsuen> Do you see anything CDT related in the preferences?
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[13:21:42] <Jaimie> nope
[13:22:10] <private_meta> Hyppias: nothing in there?
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[13:22:15] <Hyppias> nope
[13:22:34] <private_meta> 64 bit OS?
[13:22:47] <Hyppias> i'm on 32
[13:22:52] <private_meta> hmm...
[13:22:53] <private_meta> weird
[13:23:17] <Jaimie> i tried to install it again but it tells me its already installed
[13:23:35] <private_meta> install what? java?
[13:23:52] <Jaimie> CDT
[13:23:58] <private_meta> ah
[13:24:01] <private_meta> different guy
[13:24:22] <private_meta> When trying to create a new project, what options do you see?
[13:24:50] <Jaimie> all the default java EE stuff
[13:24:57] <Jaimie> for ganymede
[13:25:26] <rcjsuen> Hyppias: Can you run java from the cli?
[13:25:42] <private_meta> Hyppias: yeah, what does java -version say?
[13:25:56] <Jaimie> no C stuff and nor do i see the android SDK that i should have too but also isnt appering
[13:26:00] <Jaimie> appearing*
[13:26:05] <private_meta> Jaimie: so you did install the ganymede version of cdt?
[13:26:19] <Jaimie> 3.5 yup
[13:26:24] <rcjsuen> 3.5 == galileo
[13:26:26] <rcjsuen> 3.4 == ganymede
[13:26:48] <Jaimie> no its gallileo
[13:27:00] <Jaimie> sorry my mistake
[13:27:09] <Jaimie> but yeah 3.5 and gallilieo
[13:27:45] <Hyppias> private_meta: I'll reset the machine... java from cli gives error during init.
[13:28:00] <private_meta> Hyppias: why not just reinstall java?
[13:28:18] <rcjsuen> i too am of the opinion that restarting won't help
[13:29:08] <private_meta> Well, restarting doesn't really hurt and you can cross off one more thing
[13:29:39] <rcjsuen> that is true
[13:31:50] <private_meta> Then again sometimes restarting does hurt... oh the memories
[13:33:46] <rcjsuen> Hyppias: Do you have multiple JRE installations?
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[13:35:10] <Hyppias> rcjsuen: no.
[13:35:29] <rcjsuen> well then
[13:35:58] <Hyppias> I get java/lang/NoClassDefFoundError
[13:35:58] <philk__> rcjsuen: hey, you implemented the IRC bot? Can I assume you have a little knowledge of ECF/IRC integration then? Would it be possible to add drop-support for text on the channels user list?
[13:36:14] <private_meta> Hyppias: When doing what exactly, starting Eclipse?
[13:36:41] <Hyppias> no, when I type "java" in cli
[13:36:54] <rcjsuen> philk__: "drop support"?
[13:37:00] <rcjsuen> Hyppias: for java.lang.Object, right
[13:37:02] <philk__> rcjsuen: drag&drop
[13:37:02] <private_meta> Hyppias: and "java -version"?
[13:37:19] <rcjsuen> philk__: you mean like select text and drag and drop on their name to /msg them?
[13:37:32] <Hyppias> java -version: same error
[13:37:43] <philk__> rcjsuen: yes
[13:37:51] <private_meta> Hyppias: Then it seems like A reinstall of Java has become quite a good idea by now
[13:37:56] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure if our UI code is setup for that.
[13:37:58] <philk__> rcjsuen: or prefix the text with the name
[13:38:08] <Hyppias> ok I do that
[13:38:32] <rcjsuen> but i mean yeah if someone wanted to add that feature it's doable
[13:38:40] <rcjsuen> that code is pretty hairy tho
[13:39:15] <philk__> rcjsuen: well i saw something like drop support on roster... whatever that is... otherwise I would just get the control under the cursor and find out if its a channel user list
[13:39:31] <rcjsuen> oh that
[13:39:41] <rcjsuen> taht only lists contacts
[13:39:48] <rcjsuen> channels do not get listed there (or its users)
[13:40:12] <rcjsuen> i'll rephrase, only actual IM protocols have that implemented, IRC (entirely chatroom-based, per se) does not
[13:40:53] <philk__> rcjsuen: I guess I would have to install ECF and see for myself first
[13:42:05] <philk__> rcjsuen: it would be a nice addition to "CopyTo" if you could just drag some file/text to a user and it would "copyto" it and then rather than putting the URL into the clipboard,it would paste it to the channel... but anyway, thats for future additions
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[13:48:25] <philk__> how would I monitor the system clipboard for certain TransferTypes?
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[14:16:10] <philk__> is it possible to persist printer dialog settings?
[14:22:08] <rcjsuen> i thot that was fixed in 3.6
[14:22:12] <rcjsuen> tho maybe that was some other bug
[14:22:35] <philk__> rcjsuen: i mean not its dimensions, but its settings for paper and such
[14:24:01] <rcjsuen> okay, maybe the bug i was thinking of was its dimensions
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[14:26:12] <C_Kode> Q: I have just installed Eclipse and I already have a project that was created with Eclipse, but the Open/Close Project are grayed out.  How do I open my project?
[14:26:21] <rcjsuen> import it
[14:26:56] <C_Kode> Thanks, I will look into that
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[14:30:56] <C_Kode> Hmm.  Importing a current project didn't work, but grabbing it directly from SVN did.
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[15:03:45] <amno> Hello.
[15:06:25] <rcjsuen> ~hi
[15:06:25] <Arbalest> Welcome! If you have a question, just ask, or take a look at our FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ :) Try typing ~faq to see more FAQs! If you have errors or logs to show, see ~pastebin. If you have screenshots to share, see ~imagebin. If you need to describe your problem, please provide some ~info about your setup. Please be patient when waiting for a response. Thank you and enjoy your stay.
[15:06:50] <l2trace99> ~faq
[15:06:50] <Arbalest> Please see the FAQs http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs
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[15:08:10] <amno> Should auto-completion for XML work out of the box if a valid XSD is given through a xmlns attribute?
[15:08:26] <amno> In the XML editor.
[15:09:21] <amno> I am using the current "Eclipse IDE for Java EE Developers".
[15:10:42] <hvrauhal> rcjsuen: Ok, finally got this thing to work, by adding an expansionlistener to the layoutdata of the foldable sections, so that they set the grabExcessSpace to false and back when expansion is modified.
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[15:12:15] <jhvdv> Hi all, I would like to know if I can use some kind of ResourceChangedListener in an RCP app.
[15:12:36] <rcjsuen> jhvdv: Sure, why not
[15:13:01] <jhvdv> rcjsuen: There's no project. The file lives on the file system...
[15:13:29] <rcjsuen> well, a resource listener is for resources managed for the workspace, so no you can't for random files
[15:13:46] <rcjsuen> I guess I'll have to retract my earlier statement.
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[15:14:41] <jhvdv> rcjsuen: Than there is no alternative than to poll and check for modification times myself?
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[15:16:29] <amno> How can I enable auto-completion for this XML file: http://pastebin.com/d2d6b7c33 (4 lines).
[15:16:30] <rcjsuen> Not that I know of anyway.
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[15:16:50] <jhvdv> Ok. Thanks for the quick response.
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[15:21:29] <amno> When is the prime time of this channel?
[15:22:09] <rcjsuen> amno: usually about now is prime enough, daytime in the Americas I guess
[15:24:29] <amno> Is it normal that this channel is dead?
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[15:25:28] <rcjsuen> there's not always something to talk about, so yes, it is perfectly normal
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[15:30:30] <amno> I added the XSD files to the XML Catalog: http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/community/tutorials/XMLCatalog/XMLCatalogTutorial.html. But auto-completion still doesn't work for this basic XML file: http://pastebin.com/d2d6b7c33. :-/
[15:30:42] <amno> Can't believe.
[15:33:42] <amno> Can Eclipse use the XML schema to provide some simple auto-completion for XML?
[15:34:05] <amno> I am not the only one who is using XML. Right?
[15:35:09] <rcjsuen> I've seen it done, that was in 2007 and I don't remember anything.
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[15:36:07] <amno> rcjsuen: Can you just copy http://pastebin.com/d2d6b7c33 into test.xml an test if you get any content assistance?
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[15:41:40] <rcjsuen> i get stuff, i don't know if it's right or not
[15:42:26] <amno> Can you auto complete <csv:reader/>?
[15:43:16] <rcjsuen> no
[15:44:25] <amno> But it is defined in http://www.milyn.org/xsd/smooks/csv-1.2.xsd.
[15:46:52] <amno> I feel so dumb.
[15:48:58] <amno> I even don't know if it is generally possible to have content assistance through an XML schema in the Eclipse XML editor.
[15:49:14] <amno> But we are now in 2010. Not 1999.
[15:49:46] <rcjsuen> As I noted above, I've used it before in 2007, so yes it's doable.
[15:49:54] <amno> But how?
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[15:59:36] <rcjsuen> amno: You could try asking on the wtp ~forums and see if someone can help you there.
[15:59:36] <Arbalest> http://www.eclipse.org/forums/
[16:01:44] <amno> rcjsuen: I found a thread on the Smooks mailing list: http://old.nabble.com/Smooks-xml-autocompletion-in-Eclipse-IDE-tt27424291.html#a27424291 I will try that. :-)
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[16:05:03] <amno> No way. I can't waste a whole day for this.
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[16:07:36] <feanorul> Is there a way to add an Action to the EditorArea where the minimize and maximize buttons are ?
[16:08:00] <rcjsuen> feanorul: Pretty sure no. At least, I highly doubt there is an API way to do that at the platform level.
[16:08:43] <rcjsuen> setting the top right control of the CTF might be what you're looking for but i'm not positive
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[16:09:20] <feanorul> Ok, ill look into that, thanks
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[16:14:44] <elb0w> is there a way to insert a collapse point
[16:14:50] <elb0w> like how I would collapse a function
[16:14:57] <elb0w> I want to do it on a html page
[16:15:31] <paulweb515> elb0w: it depends on the editor (but my guess is no for the html editor).  Only your help would be able to tell you for sure
[16:15:53] <elb0w> I assumed maybe it would be a global function
[16:15:54] <elb0w> for eclipse
[16:17:17] <rcjsuen> you mean randomly marking a block of text as being collapsible? don't think there's such a thing
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[16:17:55] <elb0w> would be nice
[16:17:55] <elb0w> :/
[16:17:56] <elb0w> k
[16:17:57] <elb0w> ty
[16:18:00] <paulweb515> elb0w: it depends on the editor ... The Java editor collapses methods, but AFAIK it won't allow you to insert arbitrary collapse points (there's a open bug about that :-)
[16:18:14] <elb0w> im using amateras for html
[16:18:15] <rcjsuen> indeed there's one against JDT
[16:18:23] <elb0w> cdt and java worked fine
[16:18:24] <elb0w> for me
[16:18:34] <elb0w> just hate html
[16:18:36] <elb0w> its so messy
[16:18:40] <elb0w> I dont want to look at everything
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[16:40:58] <nitind> elb0w: Feel free to use longer constructs when talking.  You'll have to check with Amateras if it allows code folding like that.
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[17:18:14] <philk__> paulweb515_: I would like to update my dropdown toolbar buttons tooltip/text depending on the current state its associated command has. Could I do that using the IUIElement and if so how would I find out to which command I am currently bound?
[17:18:42] <philk__> how do I add a menu after the "Copy" command entry in the (non-editor) popup menu? In the text editor popup its "after=copy" but in the other context menu (package explorer at all) this does not work
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[17:39:58] <dos000> howdy
[17:40:42] <dos000> how can i run ant scripts in eclipse using the already saved extssh password ?
[17:41:08] <dos000> i dont want to keep asking the pass again and again
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[17:55:18] <atpa8a> hello
[17:58:18] <atpa8a> how can i make a properties file available for all junit run configurations in a project[s]?
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[18:57:01] <paulweb515> philk__: If your dropdown toolbar contains CCIs then they are registered UIElements ...
[18:57:57] <paulweb515> philk__: the problem you're seeing in popup menus is that often the editors of views fill them in ... if the view doesn't bother to set an ID or command id, then you won't be able to target it
[18:58:59] <philk__> paulweb515: I would have thought that the editors over at Eclipse that designed the JDT UI views (Package Explorer, Outline) added the copy command with an ID
[18:59:55] <philk__> for instance the Outline View... does it add the copy/paste popup entries hardcoded (as actions) rather than using the new menuContribution finally?
[19:00:03] <paulweb515> philk__: they were written a long time ago, long before there was any reproducible ability to place actions
[19:00:46] <philk__> paulweb515: that makes it incredible hard to add new contributions to standard Eclipse view context menus
[19:00:48] <paulweb515> philk__: it hardcodes actions ... it's a pagebook view, and has a horrible record for targetting its contributions (I don't believe they're IDed, and so you couldn't add to them)
[19:00:58] <paulweb515> philk__: well, specifically to the outline view
[19:01:28] <philk__> paulweb515: ok, I will then add to "after=additions".. which is of course not where my "CopyTo" contribution belongs to
[19:02:04] <paulweb515> philk__: right ... that's not incredibly hard, just annoying and inconvenient ... I've yet to see anybody volunteer to re-write any of the legacy views
[19:02:04] <philk__> paulweb515: lets see if they at least define some group markers that I could use... the "Copy Qualified Name" action is placed right below the "Copy" command in all popups
[19:02:13] <philk__> paulweb515: I wonder how they achieved that
[19:05:19] <philk__> paulweb515: whats the class name of the OutlineView?
[19:06:03] <paulweb515> philk__: org.eclipse.ui.views.contentoutline.ContentOutline
[19:06:24] <paulweb515> ALT+SHIFT+F1 while you have a Java file open should give you page information as well
[19:07:21] <philk__> paulweb515: yes, I know the PluginSpy... I was looking for OutlineView in ctrl+shit+T :)
[19:08:59] <philk__> paulweb515: well, I do not see why it should not work... PageBookView calls: getViewSite().getActionBars()
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[19:10:22] <philk__> paulweb515: and this should include "global actions" such as copy... why do the IActionBar implementations not add those actions with their ID...
[19:15:04] <philk__> how can I find all references to "org.eclipse.jdt.internal.ui.actions.CopyQualifiedNameAction" in plugin.xml of the target platform?
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[19:20:21] <nitind> I usually start with grep.  Being internal, you're probably only interested in the plugin.xml of org.eclipse.jdt.ui.
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[19:26:13] <philk__> nitind: I thought there might be a way to grep inside the IDE
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[19:27:39] <nitind> philk__: Possibly add th entire platform into Java Search (Plug-ins view) and then search.
[19:27:48] <nitind> Never tried it myself.
[19:28:00] <philk__> nitind: does not work... tried
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[19:30:03] <Diverdude> Is it possible to debug mex-c files from eclipse?
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[20:11:12] <philk__> are Java threads native OS threads?
[20:11:24] <FauxFaux> On the majority of implementations, yes.
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[20:14:27] <NoobFukaire1> test
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[20:26:58] <karsan> when will 3.5.2 be released?
[20:27:06] <Kezzer> I don't suppose anyone knows how to import an existing project which wasn't set up as an eclipse project into Eclipse? It's a Ruby on Rails project using Aptana plugin
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[20:30:20] <d_a_carver> Kezzer: should be able to use Import Existing project if it was created by the eclipse Aptana plugin.
[20:30:38] <Kezzer> Nope, it wasn't unfortunately.  That's the predicament I face
[20:31:27] <d_a_carver> Kezzer: creata a General Project, and then use Import Filesystem.
[20:32:29] <rcjsuen> karsan: late Feb
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[21:07:55] <PferdOne> Unable to create variable object: http://i47.tinypic.com/m7qg7m.png - what is this? it's said to be resolved in v3.0.1, i'm on v3.5.1
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[21:12:23] <heinz> PferdOne: it's an error from gdb/MI
[21:12:46] <erdal> PferdOne: Fixed for CDT 3.0.1, i.e. that is not eclipse
[21:14:03] <PferdOne> heinz, erdal, thx
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[21:24:29] <conan> I'm strugglign to debug an OSGi app in eclipse. It keeps saying it can't find an imoprt, but you can see from the nopaste that the package is in the install.  http://pastebin.com/d630f1596
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[21:31:52] <harpoon1> Question - Why is it that when I copy a line of code using ctrl->c, it sometimes does not copy the whole line, only a portion of it?  I have become accustomed to presing the copy twice, but was curious about this...
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[21:37:34] <rcjsuen> harpoon1: What OS are you on
[21:39:03] <harpoon1> linux
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[21:40:34] <rcjsuen> there's a ccp problem described in the faq tho i dunno if that's the same problem
[21:42:07] <harpoon1> ok
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[22:05:26] <Zape> hi
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[22:06:23] <Zape> I have my laptop in service and I'm using a second machine meanwhile. I have the newest eclipse and epic, but I'm not able to open any project ?
[22:07:07] <Zape> 'open' and 'close' in the project menu are grey and not selectable
[22:07:40] <Zape> when I change my workspace to any of my workspaces, I can't see any files in Navigator or anywhere else
[22:07:59] <Zape> I'm able to open a single file, but it's just opened as it's own with it's absolute path
[22:08:12] <nitind> Zape: Those are other already-created Eclipse workspaces?
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[22:08:23] <Zape> yeap
[22:08:23] <rcjsuen> Sounds like a) you're pointing Eclipse at the wrong folder as a workspace or b) your resources metadata got hosed.
[22:09:07] <Zape> I have those '.metadata' directories and '.project' files but eclipse doesn't seem to recognize them ?
[22:09:23] <rcjsuen> does it look like your preferences are correct?
[22:09:25] <Zape> the project file just get's opened as an xml file
[22:09:26] <rcjsuen> are your views arranged properly?
[22:09:37] <rcjsuen> project file is just a file, you should expect it to be open as...just a file
[22:09:51] <Zape> I did open perspective "Perl" (epic)
[22:10:21] <conan> when creating the .jar plugin, why is it that eclips needs the build.properties? or it doesn't get recognised?
[22:10:26] <Zape> previously on my own machine, eclipse opened the project at that .project file, if I remember correct...
[22:10:34] <conan> why isn't that only a src scoped artifact?
[22:10:53] <rcjsuen> conan: well pde builds based on what's defined in the build.properties file
[22:11:11] <rcjsuen> if your file is incorrect in some way the jar will be wrong
[22:11:20] <rcjsuen> (like forgetting to include the icons/ folder, first-hand experience right here)
[22:11:52] <conan> rcjsuen: but the paths for build.properties once included in the jar are incorrect.
[22:12:06] <conan> rcjsuen: as it tells you where the src is, but obviously that path doesn't exist in the jar.
[22:12:24] <rcjsuen> not sure i follow
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[22:12:59] <conan> rcjsuen: there is one build.properties in the manifest editor I have to select it for both source and binary build information.
[22:13:31] <conan> so that build.properties has source.. = src/main/java/,\
[22:13:33] <rcjsuen> you mean src.includes and bin.includes?
[22:13:38] <conan> yes
[22:13:46] <rcjsuen> yes and what is the problem here exactly
[22:14:01] <conan> source.. = src/main/java/,\
[22:14:10] <conan> like that value, wouldn't have much relevancy for the binary build
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[22:14:26] <conan> org likewise output.. = target/classes/
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[22:15:55] <discodan> conan, the build.properties is not intended to be included in the binary result, as you said, it is all about the source and not relevant in a binary jar
[22:16:05] <briandealwis> discodan: I have a small PDE Build question.  I have an app that uses a single per-user database.  I'm trying to setup different per-platform defaults for osgi.instance.area (e.g., on MacOS X to use a directory under ~/Library/Application Support/). The easiest way seemed to be to provide a custom config.ini.  But none of the org.eclipse.equinox.simpleconfigurator goodness happens on a build (e.g., no configuration/org.eclipse.equinox.simpleconfigurat
[22:16:54] <discodan> briandealwis, are you doing a full p2 enabled build?
[22:17:16] <conan> discodan: unless you select the build.propertes in the bin.includes, it fails.
[22:17:39] <briandealwis> discodan: good question ? I'm not sure :-)  I don't have anything explicitly referencing p2 in my build.properties.  So I'm guessing "no".
[22:17:53] <briandealwis> discodan: (just started on learning PDE build on Friday)
[22:18:13] <discodan> briandealwis, you're just exporting your product from the UI then?  and checking the 'generate metadata' option?
[22:18:52] <discodan> conan, I came in late, I missed all the context for your problem
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[22:19:01] <briandealwis> discodan: no, I tried but it fails after churning for 30 mins with an OOME.  So I've setup a build.properties.  It works providing I don't provide a custom config.ini.
[22:19:05] <Zape> D'oh, I got it. I had copied a wrong workspace from my backup... *facepalm* still a strange behaviour, imo
[22:19:25] <conan> discodan: oh np. I'm just trying to debug why my app is failing to resolve deps. noticed I missed the build.properties inside of the .jar. so hoping it's that and rebuilding.
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[22:21:03] <Zape> having some sleep now, bye
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[22:21:45] <rcjsuen> Too bad, I was going to ask Zape what exactly was strange about the workspace being incorrect but oh well :o
[22:22:41] <discodan> briandealwis, it is a little advanced, but if you are using "p2.gathering=true" for your build (http://help.eclipse.org/galileo/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.pde.doc.user/tasks/pde_p2_builds.htm), then you can customize your p2 metadata using a p2.inf file (http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox/p2/Customizing_Metadata)
[22:23:26] <briandealwis> discodan: ok, I was going to have to look at that sooner or later anyways.
[22:23:54] <discodan> in cvs, dev.eclipse.org, /cvsroot/eclipse, /org.eclipse.releng.eclipsebuilder/eclipse/buildConfigs/sdk/builder/p2.inf is an example that sets the "osgi.instance.area.default" property for the mac to be different from the other platforms
[22:23:55] <briandealwis> discodan: I noticed that the e4 legacy workbench .product file has a <property name="eclipse.buildId" value="@qualifier"/> in its <configurations> clause.  Would that be a short-term approach?  I can't see anything in the product editor that allows setting such properties though.
[22:24:03] <briandealwis> ok
[22:25:05] <discodan> briandealwis, those <property/> elements work, the UI just doesnt have a way to set them, you can do them manually in the xml.  But I don't think you can do them per-platform
[22:25:46] <briandealwis> discodan: oh, of course.  Thanks for the pointers ? I'll go play some more.  Thanks for your help.
[22:27:46] <discodan> conan, for binary jars it is all about the manifest.  check the Bundle-Classpath header if the .class files are not being found.  Check the Import-Package and Require-Bundle if the bundle itself is not resolving
[22:28:41] <conan> discodan: http://pastebin.com/d630f1596 shows me checking stuff. says it can't find the package, yet it alos says it's exported.
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[22:29:13] <conan> this is hte thing I do dislike about OSGi, when things fail. debugging is very hard - bit like AOP.
[22:31:20] <discodan> conan, try "diag 66", I think org.mvel2 itself is not resolved, which causes transitive problems for org.drools.core
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[22:32:01] <conan> "diag 66"? n ot heard of htat command, got a url?
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[22:33:45] <discodan> cocan, looking for url.  you can type "help" in the console to get a list of commands, 66 is the bundle id of org.mvel2 which you can see when you did "bundle"
[22:35:14] <deSilva> Is SWT.SINGLE default for SWT Trees?
[22:37:25] <krbarnes> deSilva: yes
[22:37:38] <deSilva> thank you
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[22:43:42] <discodan> conan, best I could find is this: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-ecl-osgiconsole/index.html
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[23:06:02] <rcjsuen> deSilva: Personalyl I always set the style. Makes it more explicit and easier to read. Also helps newcomers to the code.
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[23:17:54] <ninefingers> Hi all, does anyone know how to set the defaults for a toolchain in CDT?
[23:19:09] <ninefingers> So that when I create a new workspace the defaults, e.g. gcc -Wall -pedantic, are set up?
[23:19:10] <philk__> rcjsuen: how to the PDE editors know when there is copyable content in the clipboard so that they can enable their menu items?
[23:19:21] <rcjsuen> Couldn't say.
[23:23:33] <philk__> rcjsuen: I have implemented a Generic Win32 Clipboard monitor, since the SWT Clipbord does not support notifications about content chnages
[23:24:14] <krbarnes> philk__: I think they just get the contents of the clipboard when building the menu.
[23:24:37] <philk__> krbarnes: i guessed so too, yes. However i need it to enable my always visible button
[23:25:17] <philk__> krbarnes: so I can now just register for the event "eclipseutils/ui/clipboard/monitor/swt/text" and will be notified when such changes appear
[23:25:20] <deSilva> rcjsuen: that's what I ended up doing!
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[23:48:10] <deSilva> sigh, I have sooo much code that needs to be done in ten hours
[23:48:37] <deSilva> for a proof-of-concept demo for my boss
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[23:56:15] <ninefingers> Is it not possible to set extra flags for gcc globally in CDT>
[23:56:17] <ninefingers> *?

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