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[00:03:56] <erdal> anyone knows whether it is ok to use anySimpleType to map to java's Object in a xml xsd?
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[00:30:06] <m0nkfish> how do i change the font size of the sidebar?
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[02:20:57] <eber83> Hey all!
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[02:21:25] <eber83> I'm writing a toolchain plugin and the makefile generation is anything but perfect
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[02:21:56] <eber83> I'm getting $(USER_OBJS) twice in the final linking command/line
[02:22:52] <eber83> has anyone else had issues before? multiple variables/targets being used?
[02:31:51] <eber83> ah, think I found it
[02:32:09] <eber83> had "additional input"s in the input type
[02:32:39] <eber83> which included USER_OBJS
[02:32:41] <eber83> w00t
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[03:06:30] <niriven> Hello, i am looking to get information about what classes implement certain interfaces or extend abstract classes. I am trying to go through the the package fragments and the IJavaElements, however i dont see this information in there (JDT), cana nyone help?
[03:06:55] <rcjsuen> from an IType you can get its super types, no?
[03:07:24] <niriven> tried that, let me try again :)
[03:11:24] <niriven> rcjsuen, there we go, thanks.
[03:11:45] <niriven> rcjsuen, You are always a big help :)
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[03:12:58] <rcjsuen> niriven: What did you do wrong in the first place then?
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[03:13:33] <niriven> rcjsuen, i just didnt know what method to call in IType, i guess i could have looked harder :-0
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[05:22:19] <SaEeDIRHA> hi
[05:22:23] <SaEeDIRHA> hi, i have been trying to learn QT in C++ using Eclipse IDE
[05:22:28] <SaEeDIRHA> can someone please help me or refer me to good tutorial please?
[05:22:41] <SaEeDIRHA> i have problem when i want to "Build project"
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[05:54:01] <idea4good> i am trying to configure Jboss 5 AS on galileo
[05:54:16] <idea4good> it says  Missing classpath entry D:\jboss-5.1.0.GA\jboss-5.1.0.GA\bin\bin\run.jar
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[06:41:26] <zayka> hi!
[06:42:02] <zayka> i cant emerge eclipse-sdk cause of error "eant failed"
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[06:42:17] <zayka> where can i get eclipse-sdk-3.5.1.tbz2 ?
[06:43:13] <zayka> i want to try binary package
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[09:52:59] <xonix> Hi, i have looked under window prefences but not found what i search. How can i mark the open/closed bracket  in another color ? gray is to bright
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[09:53:22] <jink> They're black here...
[09:54:32] <jink> Anyway, open up the preferences, and type "color" in the search field.  Anything related to color will show up in bold.
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[09:55:57] <jink> xonix: Java -> Editor -> Syntax coloring -> Element -> Java -> Brackets
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[10:00:29] <jink> xonix: This is where you say: "Thanks, that's what I was looking for!"
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[10:00:42] <xonix> jink: thank you ;)
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[10:01:10] <jink> :P
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[10:41:34] <philk__> paulweb515_: is there a default Properties command, that will display Properties dialog? And to which Interface my objects must adapt to trigger the properties command to be enabled/active?
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[10:43:55] <philk__> I have an extension point declared that PDE refuses to accept. Its named "rapi4j.ui.advisor.actions". If i change the name to "rapi4j.ui.advisor.action" then PDE stops complaining, although in the schema the EP is still named "rapi4j.ui.advisor.actions". Thats really strange
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[10:47:00] <philk__> in which newsgroup I can ask questions about p2 updates? Every time I update the I-Build it leaves old plugins in the config and that completly destroys my run configurations. Then I have 2 same plugins selected (different version). Source code attachments do not work anymore, cause JDT picks up the old plugin and not the new one. Am I supposed to run a -clean after each update?
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[11:04:44] <philk__> about my EP issue: http://pastebin.com/m52325de2
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[11:22:06] <indietrash> how did you change tabs again?
[11:22:34] <indietrash> aha... nvm. :)
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[11:56:52] <paulweb515_> philk__: the default properties command is org.eclipse.ui.file.properties, AFAIK
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[11:57:23] <paulweb515_> philk__: if the current part doesn't already provide a handler, then the default handler is looking for a StructuredSeleciton
[11:58:47] <philk__> paulweb515_: and what interface do the items of the SS need to implement?
[11:59:55] <paulweb515_> philk__: none ... AFAIK it's the property pages that say what their enablement is, and can use core expressions
[12:00:03] <paulweb515_> bbiab
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[12:21:51] <philk__> paulweb515_: "control" menuContributions can only be created inside toolbars?
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[12:47:28] <noroute> hello. Is there a state-of-the-art way to build Eclipse plugins using Maven? I have a PDE project and I imported the eclipse jars using the maven eclipse plugin and "to-maven" which puts all plugins of eclipse into a local repository (using Eclipse 3.5.1), but the dependencies don't work out (the generated pom declares dependencies (apparently from the manifest files) which are off, often only by minor version numbers). Fixing by hand is not an op
[12:47:29] <noroute> since there are so many jars...
[12:52:56] <philk__> noroute: from what I have read, you better avoid Maven alltogether and use something like ant4eclipse
[12:53:26] <philk__> noroute: with Maven you will most likely end up in a configuration hell
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[12:55:04] <noroute> philk__: hmmm, I tried to avoid writing a lot of code (ant files) for building.
[12:55:54] <noroute> philk__: including testing, deployment to a CI server, etc.
[12:56:11] <noroute> philk__: but you may be right
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[13:08:46] <murray> hi, i want to create an instance of the class FileEditorInput in a RCP application.. what is the required plugin?
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[13:33:54] <rcjsuen> ~tell murray about findclass
[13:34:00] <rcjsuen> whoops, or not
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[13:35:47] <murray> help bot not working?
[13:36:24] <rcjsuen> in the wiki there's a page about how to find the bundle of a class
[13:36:35] <murray> ok
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[13:37:01] <deSilva> rcjsuen, why is only platform, equinox, jdt, and pde listed at http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/S-3.6M4-200912101301/eclipse-news-M4.html ? where should I go to read about what changed for other projects in m4, for example, what changed for wtp?
[13:37:35] <rcjsuen> deSilva: well, that downloads pg is just for the SDK, so we only list the SDK stuff, you'd have to check the wtp website to see their N&N
[13:37:43] <rcjsuen> it might be on a wiki
[13:37:46] <rcjsuen> i think CDT puts theirs on the wiki
[13:38:03] <deSilva> ok thanks
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[13:42:19] <philk__> hmmm the menuService contribution framework does not allow me to find out the specific class that implements a contribution, as it is all proxied now :(
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[13:45:17] <philk__> rcjsuen: to implement a context menu entry for java source files in the project tree I would register menuContribution that is visible when the underlying element is IMethod or something like that... any idea where the "Copy Qualified name" is implemented?
[13:45:38] <rcjsuen> probably using actions/actionSets
[13:46:44] <rcjsuen> org.eclipse.jdt.internal.ui.actions.CopyQualifiedNameAction
[13:49:33] <philk__> rcjsuen: ah, ok... thanks I was looking for a handler
[13:49:51] <rcjsuen> philk__: the words JDT UI and handler rarely go in the same sentence
[13:51:28] <philk__> rcjsuen: hehe :)
[13:52:52] <philk__> rcjsuen: I want to code the "copy to pastebin" extension finally
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[13:53:14] <rcjsuen> hah
[13:54:13] <philk__> rcjsuen: so I think it would be good if one could copy IResource and ITextSelection to pastebin
[13:54:49] <philk__> rcjsuen: and the pastebin URL would be in the clipboard then
[13:55:00] <rcjsuen> ah i see what you mean
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[13:55:48] <philk__> rcjsuen: now I have to find out, how to get the textual content of an IResource
[13:56:08] <rcjsuen> you can use the text apis
[13:56:15] <rcjsuen> and get an idocument
[13:56:34] <rcjsuen> look for I*Buffer*Manager
[13:57:08] <rcjsuen> just noticed that spells out ibm -_-
[13:57:37] <philk__> :)
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[13:59:11] <philk__> rcjsuen: and I can get a IFileBuffer from an IResource?
[13:59:27] <rcjsuen> from an ifile get its path
[13:59:33] <rcjsuen> then use the manager to connecy
[13:59:35] <rcjsuen> connect
[14:00:04] <rcjsuen> org.eclipse.core.filebuffers.ITextFileBufferManager.getTextFileBuffer(IPath, LocationKind)
[14:02:03] <philk__> rcjsuen: understood... and the manager I get from where?
[14:02:10] <rcjsuen> philk__: it's a singleton
[14:02:29] <rcjsuen> actually i guess that doesn't answer your question
[14:02:54] <rcjsuen> but i'll just leave you with that hint for the time being ;)
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[14:03:15] <philk__> rcjsuen: sure, I will find it
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[14:11:56] <philk__> rcjsuen: actually TextFileBufferManager is not a singleton
[14:12:35] <rcjsuen> philk__: Well, it's not a class for you to instantiate -> org.eclipse.core.filebuffers.ITextFileBufferManager.DEFAULT
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[14:13:27] <philk__> rcjsuen: ah, of course. My crappy install does not show source attachment and javadoc anymore
[14:13:32] <philk__> rcjsuen: thanks to p2
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[14:38:49] <lestat> hi all
[14:40:04] <lestat> i'm trying to use ESAPI in my java project, so i created a lib folder, drag and drop ESAPI.jar in it, right-click it => add to build path, but when i try to use classes from this jar file, i get a ClassNotFoundError. Any idea what i could do wrong ?
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[14:45:35] <rcjsuen> So I guess it compiles fine but at runtime it's broken?
[14:47:10] <lestat> yes
[14:47:27] <lestat> rcjsuen: any idea ?
[14:48:18] <rcjsuen> try deleting your launch configurations and generating new ones
[14:48:55] <lestat> rcjsuen: from my exaplanation it seem i'm doing the right stuff ?
[14:49:32] <rcjsuen> I suppose, it sounds okay if you can compile anyway.
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[15:06:50] <EricInBNE> rcjsuen, anywhere i can download a 3.5.2 beta package from?
[15:07:19] <rcjsuen> EricInBNE: from the SDK's downloads page you can get the RCs
[15:07:52] <EricInBNE> i couldnt find it...looking again
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[15:09:58] <EricInBNE> rcjsuen, it shows me the helios builds but not the 3.5.1 SR2 RCs
[15:10:10] <rcjsuen> EricInBNE: where are you looking exactly
[15:10:20] <EricInBNE> http://eclipse.org/downloads/
[15:10:32] <rcjsuen> go to the clasisc section
[15:10:35] <rcjsuen> and go to other downloads
[15:11:57] <EricInBNE> rcjsuen, will that work with update sites?
[15:12:09] <rcjsuen> Rephrase that / elaborate?
[15:12:20] <EricInBNE> can i treat it like 3.5.1
[15:13:38] <rcjsuen> it's a maintenance release, so yes, that is the idea
[15:14:05] <EricInBNE> rcjsuen, would I be better off going to Helios? my eclipse experience on ubuntu is maddening, even with the hack that is reccomended.
[15:14:26] <EricInBNE> last time I tried Helios, IIRC I couldnt get old plugins to work.
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[15:14:49] <rcjsuen> EricInBNE: well, the 3.5.2 maintenance builds includes some of the gtk+ fixes
[15:16:28] <EricInBNE> I just realised if I get this maintenance build going I will be able to dump KDE
[15:16:29] <EricInBNE> yay
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[15:23:25] <philk__> rcjsuen: just copied a java file content to pastebin from the IDE... need to polish the code a bit and then put it up to git
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[15:23:43] <rcjsuen> philk__: Cool. The Text APIs work out okay?
[15:25:11] <philk__> rcjsuen: yes, they do work just fine.
[15:26:22] <philk__> rcjsuen: is the DS bundle always running in Eclipse 3.5?
[15:26:28] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[15:27:54] <EricInBNE> wow this new eclipse feels so much tighter
[15:28:10] <EricInBNE> see how it is when i get finished installing my plugin soup
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[15:31:24] <philk__> rcjsuen: what? I love DS and it would be nice if it would be running by default
[15:31:39] <rcjsuen> philk__: I shrugged as in "I do not know the answer to your question".
[15:32:11] <philk__> rcjsuen: ah :)
[15:32:14] <rcjsuen> Surely by now you should be used to me being clueless ;)
[15:32:44] <rcjsuen> It's either I know something inside-out, or I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about. :)
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[15:33:51] <lestat> rcjsuen: i'm not sure to understand your suggestion about launch configuration, i just select the class i want to start, and clic and "run as"->"run on server"
[15:34:11] <rcjsuen> lestat: Oh, I assumed you were running a Java application, I guess not.
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[15:34:19] <rcjsuen> You are running on tomcat/websphere/whatever.
[15:34:24] <lestat> yes
[15:34:28] <rcjsuen> Your project's classpath != the server's classpath
[15:34:51] <lestat> mm interesting
[15:35:04] <rcjsuen> You'd have to let Tomcat know about those jars.
[15:35:14] <rcjsuen> I don't know if that can be automated or not. I don't do Java EE stuff.
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[15:38:37] <Plouj> hi
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[15:39:33] <Plouj> how do I import/create or just start using a project from a git repository in Eclipse 3.4? Should I create an empty eclipse project first and then git clone into there or should I git clone and them somehow create an eclipse project from that?
[15:40:37] <rcjsuen> Both steps sounds like the same thing to me.
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[15:46:47] <sleon> hi
[15:47:07] <sleon> what should i do if i want to add a right click listener to the table header?
[15:47:17] <sleon> to a specific column in table header
[15:47:22] <sleon> eclipse 3.4
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[15:47:42] <sleon> is there a way of doing that?
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[15:49:08] <rcjsuen> use a mouse listener and then just check the event's widget maybe?
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[15:50:55] <sleon> rcjsuen: the problem is that the mouse listener on column is not triggered
[15:51:11] <sleon> the question is why it is not triggered
[15:51:16] <rcjsuen> well if i right-click on the problems view's table headers it seems to work (on XP)
[15:51:17] <sleon> i mean the tablecolumn
[15:51:27] <rcjsuen> tho maybe that's a different mechanism
[15:51:36] <sleon> thx for the tip checking code
[15:51:39] <sleon> rcjsuen: eclipse 3.5?
[15:51:54] <rcjsuen> I'm using last week's weekly build actually :3
[15:52:10] <sleon> rcjsuen: it does not work here
[15:52:21] <sleon> rcjsuen: right click on the table header does not show anything
[15:53:01] <rcjsuen> i just tried it on 3.5.1, no problems on XP
[15:53:04] <sleon> rcjsuen: i could backport 3.5 to 3.4
[15:53:15] <sleon> ok, i tryed it with 3.4.1
[15:53:21] <sleon> and i must use it
[15:54:37] <sleon> hmm
[15:55:32] <sleon> then i have a general understanding question: TableColumn inherits from widget
[15:55:45] <sleon> and it has a support for adding an arbitary listener
[15:55:50] <sleon> so why is it not triggered?
[15:55:56] <sleon> how is this possible?
[15:56:07] <sleon> or how to see how the listener mechansim works?
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[15:59:14] <rcjsuen> I suggest you try asking on the SWT forums.
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[16:01:15] <sleon> rcjsuen: debugging swt now
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[16:04:26] <paulweb515_> philk__: right
[16:04:39] <paulweb515_> control menu items are created in toolbars
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[16:13:13] <Poundo> can I step from breakpoint to breakpoint while using eclipse PDT and xDebug. The green resume arrow in the debug view just jumps to the end and ignores breakpoints
[16:14:53] <rcjsuen> in theory that should work, at least, it does for Java debugging anyway, I don't know if there's a bug with the php tooling or not tho
[16:16:07] <Poundo> well that tells me it is the right button. I can't even find help docs that describe what it should do
[16:17:08] <rcjsuen> deSilva: Did you find the wtp N&N?
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[16:28:22] <sleon> rcjsuen: the Table implementation of my swt version does not support sending MouseUp or MouseDown event to tablecolumn
[16:28:28] <sleon> i looked up swt code
[16:28:38] <sleon> so one solution would be maybe to upgrade swt version
[16:28:40] <rcjsuen> you mean your 3.4.x?
[16:28:44] <sleon> yes
[16:29:06] <sleon> the question is if the swt version is backwards compatible or not
[16:30:06] <paulweb515_> sleon: SWT API is pretty stable ... if your code works on 3.4.x it would (should :-) work fine on 3.5.x and 3.6.0
[16:30:33] <sleon> it is other way around
[16:30:36] <rcjsuen> since a TC is not a Control
[16:30:43] <sleon> will the swt code from 3.5 work on 3.4
[16:30:44] <rcjsuen> i suppose there is no guarantee that mouse events will be sent to a TC
[16:31:00] <sleon> i read that 3.5 support table column menues
[16:31:02] <sleon> :D
[16:31:07] <sleon> that implicates sending mouse events
[16:31:12] <sleon> ;)
[16:32:27] <rcjsuen> it's possible it's sending it to the entire Control
[16:32:31] <rcjsuen> (i.e. the Table)
[16:32:40] <sleon> correct
[16:32:42] <rcjsuen> in any case, it is not reasonable to expect that code that works in a newer version will work in an older version
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[16:32:52] <rcjsuen> bug fixes + new features
[16:33:16] <sleon> so i could simulate it
[16:33:38] <sleon> catch mouse event , compute which column was clicked
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[16:33:57] <sleon> based on the table header height information and column widths
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[16:34:07] <sleon> i try it
[16:34:08] <sleon> :D
[16:34:55] <benste> hi, tried to install pydev but end up with the following error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/367651/
[16:35:01] <benste> need help instaling it
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[16:38:12] <RenatoSilva> Is Dani Megert here? https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=261716
[16:38:44] <sleon> RenatoSilva: i am prepared to take his Lotto prize
[16:38:55] <rcjsuen> RenatoSilva: No, he doesn't hang out on IRC.
[16:39:16] <rcjsuen> If you have questions, you can just ask him on the bug.
[16:39:16] <RenatoSilva> sleon: do you keep in touch with him/her?
[16:40:05] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: that would be a big, unnecessary discussion, I believe he/she may have misunderstood my patch
[16:40:23] <rcjsuen> Then you need to explain it to him.
[16:40:31] <rcjsuen> Explaining to him in person (IRC) or on the bug, seems like the same thing
[16:40:32] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: so we'd clarify things here and he/she'd refactor his comment
[16:40:53] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: not the same thing, think of TIME
[16:41:14] <rcjsuen> Where did Dani misunderstand?
[16:41:28] <philk__> rcjsuen: any idea how I can get the IJavaElement at the current ITextSelection?
[16:41:29] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: think of how many *days* *this* talk we're having right now could take there at the bug tracker :)
[16:42:03] <rcjsuen> philk__: uh, not really, i think there are methods in IBuffer or something...tho that might just get you the entire char[]
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[16:42:21] <benste> guys, someone can help me with this plugin installation ?
[16:42:37] <RenatoSilva> sleon: Lotto prize?
[16:42:48] <rcjsuen> this talk would not be happening on the bug because I imagine you would not just say "Dani you misunderstood me" and leave that as your comment
[16:42:57] <rcjsuen> as i would think you would elaborate further
[16:43:51] <PuffTheMagic> i am using eclipse on a mac for the first time and i am wonder where i would find the equivilant of ~/.eclipse
[16:44:33] <PuffTheMagic> does anyone know?
[16:45:42] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: I *believe* he/she misunderstood, because *I* actually don't get what he/she's saying there. So before documented discussion, I'd like one undocumented with him/her only to clarify things
[16:46:21] <rcjsuen> RenatoSilva: What don't you understand from his comment?
[16:46:46] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: I could tell you what I don't understand there, but it'd be better to talk with Dani, wouldn't it? Or do you know him/her and can talk with him/her about this
[16:46:57] <Poundo> I found the documentation and the debug resume arrow should do what I expected but does not. Is there a process to log a possible bug?
[16:47:07] <RenatoSilva> someone please tell me the gendle
[16:47:09] <rcjsuen> Poundo: yes, use ~bugzilla
[16:47:09] <KOS-MOS> Eclipse Bugzilla - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/
[16:47:21] <Poundo> thanks!
[16:48:21] <rcjsuen> I agree it is better to talk to Dani. Thus, I am suggesting you comment on the bug. Otherwise you could raise your points here and maybe others can fill you in where possible.
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[16:49:29] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: well ok, but you need to read the patch
[16:49:43] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: and preferably apply it and try it out
[16:50:24] <RenatoSilva> * gender
[16:51:08] <rcjsuen> To me the only thing I'm unclear about from his comment would his first "handle switching case".
[16:52:57] <rcjsuen> philk__: the copy qualified name action doesn't shed any hints?
[16:53:36] <philk__> rcjsuen: they use internal classes
[16:53:38] <rcjsuen> in the worst case scenario you could iterate over all members and check their source ranges i suppose
[16:55:06] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: the 1st item? yes, unclear to me too.
[16:55:24] <rcjsuen> if it's only one thing then just ask on the bug ~.~
[16:55:52] <RenatoSilva> no it's not, also:
[16:55:59] <RenatoSilva> "show the compare dialog which allows to copy/merge the changes (we could   even open the compare editor instead of showing the dialog)"
[16:56:20] <RenatoSilva> diff from compare editor to dialog?
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[16:56:54] <RenatoSilva> maybe he/she means implement the compare handler?
[16:57:22] <rcjsuen> well, the contents are different, so it should show a diff
[16:57:24] <rcjsuen> either using a compare editor
[16:57:27] <rcjsuen> or using a dialog
[16:58:03] <rcjsuen> right now it seems you just open three dialogs
[16:58:20] <rcjsuen> which i'm surprised even works because that's three modal dialogs
[16:58:30] <RenatoSilva> so it seems both you and Dani neither read the patch _and_ the comments, nor tried the patch out :P
[16:58:56] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: it's written in the docs of the patch that that's just a prototype
[16:59:06] <rcjsuen> I definitely didn't try it. I will admit that.
[16:59:15] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: that patch is a *base* to start working
[16:59:22] <rcjsuen> RenatoSilva: "The prototype patch needs to be finalized before we can continue on it.
[16:59:22] <rcjsuen> " That's Dani's first comment.
[16:59:32] <rcjsuen> it's a prototype, i think we all can see that
[16:59:38] <rcjsuen> and he puts out things that needs to be improved on
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[16:59:49] <rcjsuen> prototype -> needs work -> final
[16:59:52] <rcjsuen> seems like a logical progression to me
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[17:01:19] <rcjsuen> You can be mad at me if you want but it's clear from Dani's comment that he acknowledges it is a prototype patch.
[17:01:26] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure what the problem here is.
[17:02:57] <RenatoSilva> the whole patch is NOT a prototype, the patch is targeted at defining the basic infra-structure which will allow the implementation of the desired comparison
[17:03:19] <RenatoSilva> guess why I din't implement myself? lack of expertise/time :P
[17:03:50] <RenatoSilva> so I left the specific work to someone more experienced with compare components
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[17:04:20] <RenatoSilva> so one by one
[17:04:28] <RenatoSilva> "also handle the case when switching from a non-Eclipse editor where a change    was made to the Eclipse editor" --> no idea what this means
[17:05:04] <philk__> why is AbstractTextEditor.getSourceViewer protected?
[17:05:45] <RenatoSilva> "show the compare dialog which allows to copy/merge the changes (we could   even open the compare editor instead of showing the dialog)" ---> I didn't implement the actual comparison because *I don't know how*
[17:06:25] <RenatoSilva> "Also, we don't need to allow to select the handler. The extension point should specify that the last one wins (see org.eclipse.ui.texteditor.ConfigurationElementSorter)." -->
[17:07:47] <RenatoSilva> no idea why the last one, but I just thought that there may be different handlings in the future other than comparison, so the user would need to choose between them
[17:08:20] <RenatoSilva> for example, a plugin could contribute a handler, and it would be automagically listed as a new option in the dialog
[17:08:46] <RenatoSilva> default options would be 2: a) ovewrite filesystem anyway b) open compare view
[17:10:27] <RenatoSilva> but a plugin could add a new option to there (unfortunately I can't think of any example). But yes, maybe only compare view is enougth, it could ask overwrite anyway ? [Yes] [No, compare first] [Cancel]
[17:12:31] <RenatoSilva> " answer / getAnswer is not clear" --> new handlers have to define an answer to be added to that dialog with a radio button. For example, the compare handler would add "Compare the versions"
[17:14:12] <RenatoSilva> "OutOfSyncHandler doesn't provide any real implementation" --> of course, it's an abstract class, implementations are done by its subclasses :P "and hence that   should be internal and the API that needs to be implemented specified via   an interface" --> it's not an interface because it has basic functionality
[17:15:16] <RenatoSilva> "TFDP.getFileStore(Object) is not needed: instead, simply get the document    using IDocumentProvider.getDocument(editorInput)" --> do they really do the same thing? iirc, the former is to get the version from disk, the later to get the editor content, which is different at the moment
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[17:17:52] <RenatoSilva> "CompareOutOfSyncHandler must not be API" --> you mean use an "internal" package? ok, but remember it's just a prototype for test (because I have no expertise to create the actual implementation)
[17:18:36] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: I'll paste this on a pastebin and put the url there
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[17:21:45] <aikie> ok, now I have an UML class diagram model made in Eclipse, how do I turn it into code with Eclipse?
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[17:24:50] <RenatoSilva> I'm afraid with your fingers
[17:25:23] <RenatoSilva> don't know if eclipse generates code from uml
[17:25:41] <philk__> how can I get the body of a Java method programmatically? When I have a MethodDeclaration I would like to get the methods code
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[17:26:46] <fission6> when i got to add a site in new software window, nothing happens. i am trying to install pydev
[17:27:16] <RenatoSilva> I installed PyDev these days successfully in Galileo. Bad plugin btw
[17:27:40] <RenatoSilva> (although may be less worse than DLTK-Python)
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[17:28:17] <paulweb515_> fission6: ubuntu?
[17:28:23] <fission6> yea
[17:28:35] <Bisu[Shield]> is there a way to use the formatter to force { on a new line for itself?
[17:28:44] <paulweb515_> ~gtk218
[17:28:44] <KOS-MOS> Buttons in dialogs not working? Is the tree in the install dialog empty? Are you using GTK+ 2.18? See here for more details - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Eclipse_buttons_in_dialogs_and_other_places_are_not_working_for_me_if_I_click_them_with_the_mouse._I_also_cannot_see_anything_in_the_tree_when_I_try_to_install_updates._What.27s_going_on.3F
[17:28:46] <fission6> i just remebed about not being able to click enter i have to hit enter
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[17:29:30] <fission6> ok now i was able to enter the new software site but its not listing software
[17:31:21] <fission6> RenatoSilva: i was able to know add that update site but its not showing any packages i can install
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[17:32:40] <RenatoSilva> fission6: see pydev.org but iirc the right url is http://pydev.org/update
[17:32:52] <RenatoSilva> hmm no
[17:33:57] <Bisu[Shield]> hello?
[17:34:07] <RenatoSilva> fission6: the site says http://pydev.org/updates/, but that url gives you an weird message
[17:34:12] <Bisu[Shield]> and how do I force a new line after a control statement
[17:37:06] <fission6> well i dont get any message is my problem
[17:37:14] <fission6> it just sort of sits there when i select that site
[17:37:26] <RenatoSilva> access the url in your browser
[17:37:33] <RenatoSilva> it should return an xml
[17:37:42] <paulweb515_> Bisu[Shield]: what control statement?
[17:38:25] <fission6> hmm if you go there it gives you a dummy link and you're redirected?
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[17:39:36] <hceylan> Hello All, I have started the eclipse-emf, for modelling related discussion I invite everyone to the room.
[17:39:39] <hceylan> Thanks...
[17:39:47] <Bisu[Shield]> if while else etc
[17:40:01] <Bisu[Shield]> i like leaving plenty of new lines in my code
[17:41:21] <Bisu[Shield]> paulweb515_
[17:41:46] <RenatoSilva> fission6: I click in the redirection link, and get an weird xml, but the first url should give you the xml, the redirect should be automatic or rather the right xml should be there
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[17:42:26] <fission6> well now i am trying to install the zip
[17:42:35] <fission6> i dragged it into eclipse that isnt working either
[17:43:32] <RenatoSilva> into eclipse == dropins folder?
[17:44:13] <rcjsuen> RenatoSilva: to show the compare dialog, you use CompareUI, if you don't know how, well you find out by asking questions like you're doing now ;) not a problem
[17:44:20] <paulweb515_> Bisu[Shield]: just hit enter?  Or do you mean how do you change the formatter to do it?
[17:44:34] <paulweb515_> ~tell fission6 about dropins
[17:44:34] <KOS-MOS> fission6: To learn about how to use the dropins/ folder provided by p2, see here - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_p2_Getting_Started#Dropins
[17:44:43] <Bisu[Shield]> yes
[17:44:45] <fission6> i extraced in the dropin folder
[17:44:50] <Bisu[Shield]> i want to use the formatter to do it
[17:44:51] <fission6> i guess i need to restart eclipse
[17:45:00] <Bisu[Shield]> I am working on some terribly written code
[17:45:11] <Bisu[Shield]> and hoping to use the formatter to at least help me make leeway
[17:45:31] <paulweb515_> Bisu[Shield]: that's usually under Preferences>Java>Code Style>Formatter
[17:46:02] <paulweb515_> Bisu[Shield]: you can clone one of the existing ones and then edit it to suit
[17:46:11] <Bisu[Shield]> I am here Preferences > php > code style > formatter
[17:46:12] <paulweb515_> Bisu[Shield]: my advice is, don't do that, however
[17:46:19] <rcjsuen> RenatoSilva: If you don't have the expertise or time, that is fine too. Dani is just laying out what he feels/perceives are necessary to improve the patch. If you don't have the time to complete it. Well, some other person that finds that bug in the future might be able to work on it. Maybe Dani himself will have time later, I cannot say.
[17:46:22] <paulweb515_> Bisu[Shield]: oh, PHP?
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[17:49:17] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: ok ok, rigght. I just didn't understand some of his/her comments, it was like he/she didn't read/tried/understand some stuff, but ok, the link to irc talk is there
[17:49:50] <rcjsuen> well, that's what bugzilla is for, to have discussions and clarify things :)
[17:50:02] <RenatoSilva> I hope someone work on this in the future, unfortunately I don't have time right now to fix at least the basic things he/she said
[17:50:03] <rcjsuen> RenatoSilva: Anyway , to answer your earlier question, Dani is male.
[17:50:47] <RenatoSilva> oh thanks
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[17:59:19] <rcjsuen> philk__: getBody() doesn't work?
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[18:09:23] <philk_> rcjsuen: yes, getBody() does work, however it does not apply the formatter
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[18:30:04] <philk_> rcjsuen: hmm the Apache HttpClient seems to calculate the Content-Length wrong
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[18:34:55] <fission6> i have trying to add git to the software sites and it will not show any software to install, in fact none of the sites i add will s how software to install (test connection says the sites are available however)
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[18:39:07] <luisgrin> do someone has expereince with xtext?
[18:39:37] <fission6> how can i fix all these weird gtk issues with ubuntu & eclipse?
[18:39:59] <rcjsuen> fission6: The FAQ that KOS-MOS linked to earlier lists the bug numbers + workaround information.
[18:40:09] <fission6> ok ill review  thanks
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[18:55:00] <philk_> The AdapterFactory EP is useless, as it does not work for non-active bundles. I always run into this problem again, and again
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[19:03:31] <philk_> paulweb515_: when I want to provide an Adapter for IResource, ICompilationUnit and IMember do I have to define 3 AdapterFactories? Or should I define one, that has its adaptableObject to Object?
[19:13:14] <paulweb515_> philk_: AFAIK you have to do 3 (the best way to avoid conflicts in the adapter manager) but I'm not 100% sure ... I don't usually play in that space
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[19:19:09] <philk_> my context menu contributions disappear after I changed the selection, althought my eval expression for visibilty should still be valid
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[19:23:25] <philk_> paulweb515_: in the expression framework, can I first adapt an object to something and then further process the adapted object (using another expression)?
[19:25:16] <paulweb515_> philk_: yes, <adapt/> can take everything that <with/> can, including a further adapt (although that might be silly :-)
[19:27:35] <philk_> paulweb515_: well, I need first the activeMenuSelection to adapt to IResource and then I have my own factory, that can turn IResource into Copyable
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[19:29:09] <philk_> rcjsuen: I can copy from the source editor, and the package explorer to pastebin.com so far
[19:30:56] <philk_> rcjsuen: however, the texteditors formatter is not applied to the java code. So what gets copied looks a bit different than whats in the file actually.
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[19:54:16] <fission6> is there a way to automatically update my code base whenever there is a git push
[19:54:49] <rcjsuen> Highly unlikely.
[19:56:20] <fission6> how come all my folders have little images with a black background and a white Astrix
[19:56:39] <rcjsuen> means the system believes there is a change from your local copy to the remoe copy
[19:56:58] <fission6> how is that  possible if i just committed and pushed
[19:57:19] <rcjsuen> assuming you're talking about something like this http://2tbsp.com/system/files/eclipse_subclipse.png
[19:58:11] <fission6> yes
[19:58:32] <rcjsuen> well, assuming it means the same thing as the Subversion plug-ins, then...
[19:58:45] <rcjsuen> unless it's different in egit, but that would be annoying if it was different
[19:59:03] <rcjsuen> as that wouldn't be helping anyone
[19:59:05] <fission6> welll i don tknow how to get rid of it
[19:59:22] <fission6> this whole thing has me confused
[19:59:37] <fission6> i have a local copy, then something i commit to, then sometrhing i pushed to? is that the right flow
[19:59:37] <rcjsuen> probably by asking egit to override the local copy and retrieve the remote copy again, i guess
[19:59:49] <rcjsuen> I don't kno anything about Git, can't really help there.
[19:59:54] <fission6> ok
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[20:17:18] <fission6> how do i perform a git pull using egit
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[20:42:41] <fission6> is it possible to perform a pull with egit
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[20:52:11] <RenatoSilva> fission6: got pydev working?
[20:52:38] <spawnyd> fission6: pull does not work: http://wiki.eclipse.org/EGit/User_Guide/Remote#Pulling_.28merge_or_rebase.29_new_changes_from_upstream
[20:52:40] <fission6> yes i got it installed now but i am a little new to git, so i am trying to figure out how to push & pull files
[20:52:56] <RenatoSilva> fission6: if it's not possible to pull with egit, then it should be called a beta plugin
[20:53:32] <fission6> hmm ill review
[20:53:44] <RenatoSilva> what? pull is not supported???
[20:54:04] <fission6> i got pydev working and egit, but egit is a little "counter intuitive" in eclipse
[20:54:10] <spawnyd> RenatoSilva: not with egit/jgit
[20:54:11] <RenatoSilva> it's like saying Eclipse doesn't support CVS updates, aghh
[20:54:35] <spawnyd> CLI rocks anyway
[20:55:52] <fission6> ok but i guess commit and all that stuff works because thats just interacting with your local vc right?
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[21:06:20] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Cool, looks like that Cocoa drag/drop problem is going to be fixed in 3.5.2
[21:07:18] <njbartlett> RenatoSilva: egit IS a beta plugin! Though, I believe it does support pull/push
[21:07:42] <RenatoSilva> njbartlett: no see fission6's link
[21:08:39] <njbartlett> RenatoSilva: That's out of date
[21:10:38] <RenatoSilva> ah ok, sorry then
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[21:14:03] <_hansi> hep hep!
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[21:15:45] <_hansi> hm... just curious - anyone thinks it's possible to split up a java-file into multiple pieces (say having an inner class in a separate file), but still getting the same editor error correction suggestion etc.?
[21:16:39] <_hansi> fyi: i'm not crazy, i guess. but i'm curious if it was possible to use eclipse as a real replacement for the processing-ide (http://www.processing.org) while still maintaining their ease of use...
[21:17:45] <erdal> rcjsuen: is there a bug to track the npe in fast views?
[21:18:15] <erdal> ... a bug report ...
[21:20:43] <erdal> _hansi: there is a refactoring action for this
[21:21:00] <erdal> making inner classes super types
[21:21:37] <_hansi> erdal: no what i mean is actuall ripping out an inner class (even if it's a dependent one),
[21:21:47] <_hansi> put that in a seperate file.
[21:22:01] <erdal> i cant make a difference
[21:22:05] <_hansi> then, every time before the code gets compiled it puts the file back together
[21:22:11] <_hansi> like a preprocessor.
[21:22:16] <erdal> ah
[21:22:21] <_hansi> i know it sounds nasty and i'd never do that with java,
[21:22:29] <_hansi> but in the processing language it really makes sense,
[21:22:35] <erdal> java is not c :-)
[21:22:43] <_hansi> so i'm curious if it's easy to implement in eclipse
[21:22:47] <_hansi> erdal: ^ :)
[21:23:08] <erdal> though, it should be possible to make your own project builders
[21:24:16] <_hansi> that sounds like i good start, would i be able to split up the compiler results and "send them back" to the different editor windows?
[21:24:43] <_hansi> (sorry... never written an eclipse plugin, want to figure out whats possible before i start coding like a mad man...)
[21:24:52] <erdal> that is up to your 'project builder'
[21:25:29] <erdal> i have enever done that stuff before, but sounds doable :-)
[21:25:37] <_hansi> okay, so i'll read up on project builders then...,
[21:25:40] <_hansi> thanks for your help :)
[21:26:21] <erdal> _hansi: i guess you will have to get familiar with jdt as well...
[21:26:51] <_hansi> i love it how with eclipse everything turns into three letter codes
[21:27:08] <erdal> java development tools
[21:28:52] <_hansi> oh, just if you're curious: this how processing looks: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Processing-ide.png
[21:29:03] <_hansi> it's a pretty amazing way to get started with java development.
[21:29:29] <_hansi> you just press export and get an applet version and binaries for windows+linux+mac,
[21:29:42] <_hansi> it has tons of plugins like opengl, super-simple audio libraries,etc.
[21:29:57] <_hansi> i think this and eclipse could be best friends!
[21:31:59] <erdal> i am not sure if i would call that an 'ide'
[21:33:14] <_hansi> exactly, that's why i think it should be an eclipse plugin (or an app based on eclipse)
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[21:35:45] <d_a_carver> _hansi: bespin is probably better.  http://wiki.eclipse.org/E4/Bespin
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[21:37:57] <_hansi> d_a_carver: never heard of it,
[21:38:12] <_hansi> but it doesn't sound like a good idea to run an editor inside a browser,
[21:38:12] <_hansi> t
[21:38:20] <_hansi> this thing steals all my shortcuts :)
[21:40:11] <d_a_carver> _hansi: well, like it or not that seems to be the trend at the moment...move everything into the browser.
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[21:42:38] <erdal> it is not about whether it is good or not, it is about whether it fits your needs or not
[21:43:11] <_hansi> d_a_carver: yep, i know... even though i don't exactly get it (i admit it feels very different not having to install anything, no updates, etc.... but from a technical standpoint it seems just really weird)
[21:43:52] <rcjsuen> erdal: no, but you opened one now anyway
[21:44:02] <erdal> yes :-)
[21:44:05] <_hansi> erdal: yep, for now i prefer jdt+ custom project builders
[21:44:11] <erdal> i did not find one
[21:44:22] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: yeah, thanks for bringing it up, Neil
[21:46:35] <RenatoSilva> thanks all
[21:47:02] <RenatoSilva> rcjsuen: btw, https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=261716#c18
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[21:49:46] <rcjsuen> fission6: Yes I believe commit works anyway. I tried it a few months ago.
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[21:51:26] <rcjsuen> erdal: Anyway, it's been triaged to Eric I see. I'll try to take a look myself some time this week.
[21:53:45] <erdal> rcjsuen: ok
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[22:14:29] <philk_> any JDT developers here? How do I get an ASTNode from an org.eclipse.jdt.core.IMember?
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[22:18:10] <Sal> hello
[22:18:32] <Sal> can someone please help me install web tools on my flex ?
[22:18:44] <Sal> i need to use the code snippets that's in that plugin
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[22:23:52] <rcjsuen> erdal: I just talked to Eric (he's next to my office) and he'll give your launch config a go when he gets a chance.
[22:24:04] <erdal> ok
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[22:25:00] <rcjsuen> i just downloaded I0202-0800 and i'll give it a whirl here too
[22:26:08] <philk_> in which newsgroup can i report complains about p2?
[22:26:34] <rcjsuen> philk_: the equinox one
[22:26:40] <philk_> erdal: have you ever coded something in the JDT core?
[22:26:46] <philk_> rcjsuen: ok, thanks
[22:27:29] <philk_> rcjsuen: ok, one can pastebin from sourcecode now already. From the package explorer JavaElements not yet.
[22:27:43] <erdal> philk_: unfortunately, no
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[22:28:00] <Sal> WST Common UI (2.0.2.v200802150100-7C5EH3E9RvTVnirrspVz0bmP7g8d) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.draw2d (3.2.0)", or compatible.
[22:28:09] <Sal> where can i find that ?
[22:28:45] <rcjsuen> Sal: Sounds like you need to use the Callisto or Europa update site. Though I'm not familiar with those URLs.
[22:29:25] <Sal> I have the Europa Discovery tree in my update panel
[22:29:29] <Sal> is that what you mean?
[22:31:09] <rcjsuen> yeah that's what i meant
[22:32:34] <Sal> ok, got it
[22:32:45] <Sal> i just pressed the magic button "select required"
[22:32:49] <Sal> and it got solved
[22:33:00] <Sal> why don0t they put that as default
[22:33:10] <Sal> thanks
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[22:59:34] <sproaty> is there a way to make open files "unique" to a perspective? i.e. I want my python files open with pydev, and java with java perspective
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[23:03:00] <rcjsuen> erdal: It seems to me that you contribute a perspective extension that's a fast view?
[23:03:35] <erdal> yes
[23:03:42] <erdal> that is not allowed?
[23:04:35] <deSilva> Why don't I see the tree in the following program? http://pastebin.ca/1776284
[23:04:37] <rcjsuen> erdal: No, just trying to understand the problem. ;)
[23:04:44] <rcjsuen> erdal: I haven't got it setup yet (I"m back at home).
[23:05:04] <deSilva> The client area appears empty. getItemCount() returns 1. This is my very first SWT program btw, so it's bound to something really silly!
[23:05:07] <rcjsuen> deSilva: your Shell needs a layout
[23:05:13] <rcjsuen> That is all.
[23:05:17] <erdal> rcjsuen: i see
[23:06:22] <deSilva> aha. If I expect to have simply a menu bar, a status bar with the tree in between occupying the rest of the client area, I should go with gridlayout? right now I have simply the tree
[23:06:56] <rcjsuen> deSilva: your layout will not affect the menu bar
[23:06:59] <rcjsuen> status bar i'm not so sure
[23:07:11] <rcjsuen> But GridLayout should be fine.
[23:07:53] <deSilva> ok, now the tree appears. It looks really weird, let me add a few more items to it
[23:12:06] <deSilva> I guess it looks weird because the tree occupies such a small area of the client
[23:12:30] <deSilva> btw, it's a bit weird to me that you associate a child to its parent via the childs constructor!
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[23:15:17] <deSilva> hmm, how do I get javadoc for my swt items?
[23:18:09] <rcjsuen> I just let PDE take care of it.
[23:20:01] <deSilva> hehe, what does that mean?
[23:22:08] <deSilva> hmm, for a status bar you need something called jface?
[23:23:30] <rcjsuen> I make a plug-in project, add SWT as a dependency, and go with that.
[23:25:40] <deSilva> maybe I added the dependency improperly
[23:26:45] <sproaty> is there a way to make eclipse's UI not so "bulky" looking on GTK? most of my perspective's panels are just wide, I can only imagine running this thing on 1024x786
[23:27:40] <rcjsuen> you could write your own status line implementation if you wanted
[23:28:23] <rcjsuen> sproaty: there are some blog entries about getting trees and stuff to take up less white space via the .gtkrc and themes
[23:28:30] <deSilva> rcjsuen: I would just like a simple message line at the bottom, nothing fancy with multiple cells
[23:28:45] <rcjsuen> deSilva: well, you could just put your own Label down there if you wanted
[23:29:08] <deSilva> rcjsuen: let me try that, I don't want to go into JFace just yet
[23:30:10] <sproaty> rcjsuen, I just switched the eclipse 2.1 view and that seems nicer.
[23:30:56] <sproaty> like the tab's vertical height is at least 1/2 the default which is good
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[23:37:06] <deSilva> rcjsuen: should be using rowlayout instead of gridlayout?
[23:37:10] <deSilva> should I
[23:37:14] <rcjsuen> Not in my opinion, no.
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[23:38:38] <deSilva> I'm a bit unsure how I would make my label rest a button with its default, using the entire width of the client area and my tree taking up the rest of client area
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[23:46:16] <deSilva> ok, seems you use GridData
[23:46:25] <deSilva> let me see if I can get this to work
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[23:57:14] <deSilva> hmm, the label doesn't occupy the horizontal space I want it to
[23:58:27] <rcjsuen> deSilva: what are you trying to do

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