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[00:16:29] <Back2Basics> I have 2 computers (for the moment)  both with Eclipse (because it rocks or course) I'm trying to transfer the workspace over to the other machine (pc->mac warning) I can't seem to just copy the folder structure and have eclipse (on the mac) recognize the files as part of the workspace.  What else can I do (import... doesn't seem to cover this scenario)
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[00:18:45] <DHowett> Is the text editor in eclipse provided by swt?
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[00:19:04] <DHowett> Or is it some other class. I ask because everything but said editor seems to work.
[00:20:33] <nitind> DHowett: The widget is, it's "StyledText."
[00:20:51] <nitind> DHowett: How does it not work?  ~info
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[00:21:50] <nitind> Back2Basics: You should be able to import them as existing projects, but sharing them between the workspace in something like CVS would work better.
[00:23:21] <DHowett> Opening the text editor with any file causes eclipse (3.3.2) to crash. I've built it with/for sun's jdk 1.6 and 1.5, deleted my confuguration, changed workspaces and projects, and it still crashes "in native code" (in fgets.. the only things that changed between it working and it not working are; jdk upgrade from 1.6.0-04 to 1.6.0-05.
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[00:29:20] <Back2Basics> nitind: Thank you: I just found a subsection of the "export..." section to be useful because of what you said.  I just don't see a reason to figure out (creating, manipulating) a cvs just for this.
[00:29:28] <pombreda> A customer asked me a funny question... they would want to protect their eclipse-based product with a license key .... :-\
[00:29:38] <pombreda> any idea or anyone doing this?
[00:29:47] <pombreda> 99% of teh coed i do is open source :-)
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[00:31:51] <Back2Basics> is it distributed for linux?
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[00:35:19] <Back2Basics> Then you could use the pgp's with a symmetric cypher.  Set the password in some ini file.  then the application would be limited to linux and only nations that you could export cryptography to.
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[00:47:48] <pombreda> Back2Basics: distributed on linux/windows/macosx
[00:48:13] <pombreda> :-)
[00:48:18] <Back2Basics> DOH!
[00:48:19] <pombreda> nice funny idea though
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[01:09:52] <rcjsuen> pombreda: Doesn't PyDev Extensions use a key?
[01:10:10] <rcjsuen> and that viplugin has the annoying 10 second popup i guess that might work ;p
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[01:16:53] <d_a_carver> pombreda: I've seen that OxygenXML use llicense key protection to keep it from activating if you don't have a valid license key, not sure how they are doing it though.
[01:17:49] <rcjsuen> A naive person like me would just think they start throwing exceptions in start(BundleContext) and stop it that way.
[01:18:16] <rcjsuen> But that would be too easy.
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[01:25:20] <d_a_carver> pombreda: http://jigsaw-license-manager.jigsaw-software.qarchive.org/
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[02:00:53] <khussein> I want to be able to add some items to the intellisense in eclipse. Does anyone have any links or resources or maybe can help me where/how can I do that?
[02:01:43] <benny`work> khussein, it's in help.eclipse.org :)
[02:02:02] <benny`work> khussein, and depending where you want to add items :)
[02:02:50] <khussein> What do you mean by where I want to add items?
[02:03:09] <khussein> When you write an object name followed by a dot?
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[02:07:33] <benny`work> khussein, so you're talking about java :(
[02:07:35] <benny`work> :)
[02:07:37] <benny`work> i mean :)
[02:08:01] <khussein> Oh yeah.. sorry for the default assumption :)
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[02:09:54] <khussein> Anyone worked with intellisense development before?
[02:13:19] <njbartlett> khussein: I think IntelliSense is a Microsoft trademark. In Eclipse we just call it completion.
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[02:14:55] <khussein> njbartlett: OK - I am googling it now .. but I'd appreciate it if someone can refer me to resources where I can learn how to modify/edit in it
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[03:01:34] <rcjsuen> khussein: What exactly are you trying to add
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[03:04:53] <khussein> rcjsuen: I generate classes dynamically and I want this generated classes to be available in the code completion list for developers.
[03:05:16] <rcjsuen> you'd need those classes on your build path i guess
[03:05:24] <rcjsuen> Things don't just magically show up (as you can imagine).
[03:06:42] <khussein> I am not talking about compilation. I am talking about editing.
[03:06:56] <rcjsuen> yes, I'm aware of that
[03:07:19] <rcjsuen> these generated Java classes need to be on your project's build path for them to appear in the list of proposals
[03:07:20] <khussein> I don't have any problems compiling these classes. However, how can I show these classes along with their fields into the code completion list
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[03:07:37] <rcjsuen> They need to be on your project's build path, is what I'm trying to get at.
[03:07:44] <khussein> Is there a prgramatical way to add something to the porposals?
[03:07:59] <rcjsuen> Are you building some plug-in?
[03:08:04] <khussein> yes
[03:08:08] <rcjsuen> But yes there are APIs to manipulate a project's classpath.
[03:08:49] <khussein> Is there any other way other than manipulating the project's classpath?
[03:09:11] <rcjsuen> Wouldn't a programmatic way be using the APIs...?
[03:09:17] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure I follow.
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[03:11:55] <khussein> No I meant another way still using APIs but not touching the classpath
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[03:12:23] <rcjsuen> I think there are extension points, I'm not sure.
[03:15:00] <khussein> Well, there must be extension point, I am just not sure which ones.
[03:15:07] <nitind> There are extension points to contribute to JDT proposals, check out org.eclipse.jdt.ui.javaCompletionProposalComputer .
[03:15:14] <rcjsuen> They're usualy quite descriptive.
[03:15:17] <rcjsuen> Well, there you go.
[03:15:52] <nitind> khussein: But if you're generating classes for your users to actually use, you should just add them to the project somehow/somewhere on the Build Path.
[03:16:55] <rcjsuen> Agreed.
[03:16:58] <khussein> nitind: thanks for the pointer. The generated classes it abit more complex than normal classes. But, anyways .. thanks guys. .. I'll look at this
[03:19:14] <khussein> When I try to create an extention to org.eclipse.jdt.ui.JavaCompletionProposalComputer, I just can't happen to find it in the list
[03:19:19] <khussein> Am I missing something?
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[03:19:43] <nitind> khussein: Are you starting with the Eclipse SDK download, not just the Platform SDK or a non-SDK download?
[03:19:48] <rcjsuen> Just creating an extension in the plugin.xml doesn't do anything.
[03:19:58] <rcjsuen> when you say "it"
[03:20:03] <rcjsuen> are you referring to the extension
[03:20:06] <rcjsuen> or things in the ctrl+space list
[03:20:09] <nitind> Presumably in the PDE list.
[03:20:18] <khussein> Nevermind .. I found it. I had to uncheck "show only extention point from the required plug-ins"
[03:20:51] <rcjsuen> er, well, you should add org.eclipse.jdt.ui and probably other jdt plug-ins to your MANIFEST.MF file
[03:21:05] <khussein> Yup .. doing that now
[03:21:07] <nitind> jdt.core most likely will be required.
[03:23:06] <khussein> You guys rock thanks :)
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[03:28:00] <Laserbeak43> hello guys
[03:28:09] <rcjsuen> Laserbeak43: Hi
[03:28:16] <Laserbeak43> is there a collaborative text editing feature or plugin for eclipse?
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[03:31:43] <Laserbeak43> i found something called saros
[03:31:58] <Laserbeak43> is there anything else? the website seems to be down
[03:33:25] <rcjsuen> you can try searching for ~plugins
[03:33:26] <KOS-MOS> Look for plug-ins at the Eclipse Plug-in Central (http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/) and EclipsePlugins (http://eclipse-plugins.info)
[03:33:36] <rcjsuen> There's something from ~ecf but not very mature.
[03:33:37] <KOS-MOS> Take a look at the Eclipse Communication Framework - http://www.eclipse.org/ecf/
[03:36:13] <Laserbeak43> http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Web_Links-index-req-viewlink-cid-1157.html
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[03:36:20] <Laserbeak43> this looks like it might be what i want
[03:37:58] <rcjsuen> One of the things with XCDE is that they change Eclipse's internal code.
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[04:04:22] <Laserbeak43> rcjsuen: change eclipse's internal code?
[04:04:40] <rcjsuen> if you look at their website's installation instructions you'll understand
[04:05:16] <Laserbeak43> is that a problem for someone who doesn't usually use eclipse anyway?
[04:06:52] <`m0> Hello, is there a way to incorporate ant to a project?
[04:07:39] <`m0> For instance in NetBeans, when I say create new entreprise application, and I point to the project path, it automatically views the build.xml and automatically configures all the dependency and ant like settings
[04:07:43] <`m0> Can I do the same with Eclipse?
[04:08:19] <rcjsuen> Laserbeak43: Not sure what you mean by that. There's probably nothing life-threatening about it.
[04:09:02] <Laserbeak43> what about it concerns you? cause i don't notice anything yet
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[04:10:57] <rcjsuen> Laserbeak43: Namely, if I hit bugs, I don't know if it's there problem or Eclipse's problem.
[04:11:07] <Laserbeak43> not to get off subject, but how hard is it to make syntax highlighting for a specific microprocessor's ASM language?
[04:11:10] <rcjsuen> It also may not play nice with third-party plug-ins
[04:11:13] <rcjsuen> etc etc etc
[04:11:20] <rcjsuen> because they may have changed the code in some way
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[04:11:22] <rcjsuen> so on and so forth
[04:11:28] <Laserbeak43> ahh i see
[04:11:36] <rcjsuen> you get the idea
[04:11:36] <Laserbeak43> hmmm i'll have to keep that in mind
[04:13:48] <Laserbeak43> i honestly don't think what i'm doing in eclipse will be that important or even detailed enough for it to matter atm
[04:13:54] <Laserbeak43> but thanks for the advice
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[04:48:55] <nmatrix9> rcjsuen, you got a internal web browser working in eclipse?
[04:49:03] <rcjsuen> I haven't tried recently.
[04:49:05] <pombreda> d_a_carver: rcjsuen: thanks for the licensing keys tips. I checked around and there are open source alternatives (sic) such as : https://truelicense.dev.java.net/
[04:49:06] <rcjsuen> but my javadoc hovers work
[04:49:08] <rcjsuen> so i'm guessing yes
[04:49:47] <pombreda> nmatrix9: I do have one too: embedded firefox on windows and mac too
[04:49:52] <pombreda> :-P
[04:50:22] <pombreda> rcjsuen: I guess there might even drm open source implementations :-D
[04:50:23] <nmatrix9> pombreda, : )
[04:50:48] <ijuma> lol
[04:50:51] <nmatrix9> cUnhandled event loop exception
[04:50:52] <nmatrix9> No more handles (java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-mozilla-gtk-3349 or swt-mozilla-gtk in swt.library.path, java.library.path or the jar file)
[04:50:53] <ijuma> open-source license key library!
[04:51:14] <pombreda> nmatrix9: that is the typical error you get on linux for some Firefox config issue
[04:51:16] <nmatrix9> keep getting this for myeclipse install, apparently I can't use the internal borwser
[04:51:22] <ijuma> nmatrix9: you're on linux?
[04:51:28] <nmatrix9> ijuma, yes
[04:51:33] <ijuma> you need to set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[04:51:36] <pombreda> ijuma: weirdly enough one customer wanted to do that :-)
[04:51:37] <nmatrix9> pombreda, any docs I can read to resolve this
[04:51:47] <ijuma> nmatrix9: swt faq ;)
[04:51:52] <pombreda> ~swt
[04:51:53] <nmatrix9> ijuma, to what?
[04:52:02] <pombreda> ~linux
[04:52:05] <ijuma> ~browser
[04:52:10] <nmatrix9> : /
[04:52:13] <pombreda> ~brother
[04:52:18] <pombreda> ~firefox
[04:52:21] <pombreda> ~father
[04:52:22] <nmatrix9> ~oh brother
[04:52:31] <pombreda> KOS-MOS: where art thou?
[04:52:32] <ijuma> nmatrix9: http://www.eclipse.org/swt/faq.php#browserlinux
[04:52:41] <nmatrix9> ijuma, thanks
[04:52:48] <rcjsuen> ~hi
[04:52:48] <KOS-MOS> Welcome to #eclipse! If you have a question, just go ahead and ask. :) Or, type ~faq for a link to the Frequently Asked Questions. If you have errors or logs to paste, use a ~pastebin. If you have screenshots to share, see ~imagebin.
[04:52:49] <ijuma> nmatrix9: np
[04:52:56] <rcjsuen> pombreda: It's called, "Those aren't macros"
[04:53:26] <ijuma> rcjsuen: maybe a link to the swt faq is in order?
[04:53:27] <rcjsuen> ~add swt-faq Please take a look at SWT's FAQ page - http://www.eclipse.org/swt/faq.php
[04:53:28] <KOS-MOS> The new keyword "swt-faq" has been stored. In the future, you can ask me about "swt-faq" and I will respond.
[04:53:33] <ijuma> rcjsuen: thanks :)
[04:53:36] <rcjsuen> I thought I added one, but I guess not.
[04:53:40] <rcjsuen> o hwell
[04:53:45] <rcjsuen> Nothing that can't be fixed ;)
[04:53:54] <rcjsuen> ijuma: Actually, you have add/remove rights too.
[04:54:12] <ijuma> rcjsuen: cool thanks. I had forgotten how to add things and since you were here anyway ;)
[04:54:22] <ijuma> of course, ~add is pretty obvious in hindsight ;)
[04:56:28] <nmatrix9> ijuma, what is the native code library?
[04:56:32] <Laserbeak43> can i create custom syntax highlighting in eclipse?
[04:56:43] <nmatrix9> Where the runtime-library-path is the absolute path to the directory containing the native code library?
[04:56:55] <rcjsuen> Laserbeak43: No.
[04:57:02] <rcjsuen> Laserbeak43: not through some magic file like Vim anyway
[04:57:10] <nmatrix9> ah ok SWT libraries
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[04:57:20] <Laserbeak43> how would it be possible?
[04:57:35] <Laserbeak43> make a proposal to the eclipse devs?
[04:58:04] <Laserbeak43> or would i have to make a plugin?
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[04:58:30] <ijuma> nmatrix9: it's where your firefox is located
[04:58:38] <ijuma> nmatrix9: what distro do you use?
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[04:58:45] <nmatrix9> ijuma: centos
[04:58:48] <nmatrix9> centos 5
[04:58:51] <rcjsuen> There's probably an enhancement request opened already for custom highlighting like Vim does...possibly.
[04:58:59] <ijuma> nmatrix9: and firefox is installed?
[04:59:00] <rcjsuen> Laserbeak43: the other way would be to, yes, write your own plug-in
[04:59:03] <ijuma> 32-bit or 64-bit?
[04:59:09] <nmatrix9> ijuma, yes both
[04:59:31] <Laserbeak43> hmmm i should look for tutorials on writting your own eclipse plugin
[04:59:37] <ijuma> nmatrix9: both 32-bit and 64-bit firefox? What about eclipse? 32-bit or 64-bit?
[04:59:46] <nmatrix9> ijuma, 64 bit
[05:00:32] <ijuma> I've asked a few questions and I don't know which ones you answered anymore. ;) Anyway, you need a browser for the same bitness as your eclipse
[05:01:03] <nmatrix9> ijuma, I have 32 bit and 64 bit firefox installed, and Iam using 64 bit eclipse
[05:01:13] <ijuma> in theory, it should pick it up automatically from /etc/gre.d/, but if it doesn't then you can set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH to point to either /usr/lib/firefox<version> or /usr/lib64/firefox<version>
[05:01:16] <nmatrix9> ijuma, ok
[05:01:59] <nmatrix9> ijuma, ah ok like set LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$LD_LIBRARY_PATH:/usr/lib64/firefox<version> ? then export
[05:02:01] <ijuma> ls /usr/lib64/firefox* should give an answer
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[05:02:12] <ijuma> nmatrix9: well, you need to set the real version
[05:02:29] <nmatrix9> ijuma, ?
[05:02:32] <ijuma> it's supposed to be a real folder
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[05:02:44] <ijuma> <version> is a placeholder
[05:02:47] <nmatrix9> ijuma, you mean the firefox folder yes I know
[05:02:52] <ijuma> ok, cool
[05:03:39] <ijuma> btw, I'd recommend using 32-bit eclipse too if you don't want to use almost twice as much memory
[05:04:27] <nmatrix9> ijuma, got plenty of memory no problem on this machine
[05:04:46] <khussein> Alright guys, I got it done. It is actually very easy. All what you have to do is to create a class that extends JavaCompletionProposal. Create a class that extends JavaCompletionProposalComputer. Few lines of code to add the new proposal into the proposal list.
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[05:05:51] <ijuma> nmatrix9: so do I, but I still prefer not to waste. ;) Not to mention that the 32-bit VM is usually faster _and_ 64-bit eclipse gets a lot less testing.
[05:06:21] <ijuma> on second thought, maybe we need more people using it to fix the last point
[05:07:26] <nmatrix9> ijuma, : )
[05:08:28] <nmatrix9> only folder in /usr/lib64/firefox-1.5.0.12/
[05:08:28] <nmatrix9>  is updates
[05:10:52] <ijuma> nmatrix9: /usr/lib64/firefox-1.5.0.12/ is what you want
[05:10:58] <ijuma> here are some .so files in there right?
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[05:11:18] <Mythril> So does anyone here use the aptana plugin?
[05:11:30] <nmatrix9> Mythril, too unstable
[05:12:14] <nmatrix9> ijuma, damn I think I may have unstalled it a while back
[05:13:15] <ijuma> nmatrix9: install it back then ;)
[05:14:05] <Mythril> nmatrix9: Stability or no; the thing has a nagware button it just plops into the lower right
[05:14:13] <Mythril> and I can't figure out how to get rid of it
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[05:14:34] <nmatrix9> Mythril, uninstall aptana?
[05:14:39] <ijuma> lol
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[05:14:51] <ijuma> aptana has nagware now?
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[05:15:40] <nmatrix9> ijuma, for some reason firefox 64 bit no longer in yum repository
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[05:16:42] <ijuma> nmatrix9: that's impossible :)
[05:17:03] <ijuma> well, I don't use centos5, but if you told me that firefox 32-bit was missing I might believe you
[05:17:16] <ijuma> firefox 64-bit missing for a 64-bit distro doesn't make sense
[05:17:41] <ijuma> nmatrix9: maybe it's installed already?
[05:17:59] <nmatrix9> ijuma, Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64);
[05:18:05] <nmatrix9> I think this is it
[05:18:21] <ijuma> that's the 32-bit version
[05:18:42] <nmatrix9> damn
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[05:19:55] <nmatrix9> ijuma, Iam serious it's no longer in my yum repositories
[05:20:02] <nmatrix9> I know cause I use to do updates for it
[05:20:42] <ijuma> nmatrix9: what does rpm -qa "firefox*" say?
[05:21:06] <nmatrix9> firefox-1.5.0.12-9.el5.centos
[05:21:13] <nmatrix9> ijuma, ^
[05:21:38] <nmatrix9> I only see firefox for i386
[05:21:39] <ijuma> so, just a single line?
[05:21:44] <nmatrix9> yup
[05:22:01] <ijuma> ok, that does indeed mean that you only have one installed
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[05:24:30] <nmatrix9> ijuma, ok what about this option
[05:24:32] <nmatrix9> Copy the SWT library to a directory that is already on the Java library path. For example, the jre/bin directory.
[05:24:48] <nmatrix9> ijuma, copy the swt library itself drop it in my jre folder
[05:24:55] <ijuma> eh?
[05:25:01] <ijuma> how does that help?
[05:25:10] <ijuma> the point is that you need firefox to embed a browser
[05:25:19] <ijuma> if it doesn't exist, no browser
[05:25:39] <nmatrix9> ok
[05:26:11] <ijuma> nmatrix9: what's the URL for the yum repo?
[05:27:01] <nmatrix9> ijuma, I don't know more like repositories I was using yum gui
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[05:30:57] <nmatrix9> ijuma, attempting yum install firefox-1.5.0.12-7.el5.centos.i686.rpm
[05:30:59] <ijuma> nmatrix9: http://mirror.centos.org/centos-5/5.1/updates/x86_64/RPMS/firefox-1.5.0.12-14.el5.centos.x86_64.rpm
[05:31:07] <ijuma> so, it does exist ;)
[05:31:28] <nmatrix9> hell I'll try that
[05:31:34] <ijuma> you want to do "yum install firefox"
[05:31:45] <ijuma> don't specify the version and yum will get the latest
[05:32:31] <ijuma> nmatrix9: out of curiosity, why are you running centos in a dev machine?
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[05:33:06] <nmatrix9> ijuma, running centos 5 on a workstation
[05:33:21] <nmatrix9> ijuma, for stability was running fc 8 before
[05:33:34] * ijuma is not convinced
[05:33:43] * nmatrix9 shrugs
[05:34:09] <ijuma> things like firefox 1.5, that's so ancient
[05:34:27] <ijuma> not to mention that it can't even find it ;)
[05:34:28] <nmatrix9> ijuma, yeah I know
[05:34:59] <nmatrix9> ijuma, Iam actually using ff 2.0.0.*
[05:35:12] <nmatrix9> downloaded the binary directly from mozilla website
[05:35:26] <nmatrix9> ijuma, brb
[05:35:39] <ijuma> imho centos is only decent for servers
[05:36:01] <ijuma> especially when you consider things like hardware support and such
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[06:03:49] <arooni> anyone know how to turn OFF auto complete in radrails (eclipse)?
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[06:23:25] <nmatrix9> ijuma, centos has good hardware support in my opinion
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[06:23:56] <ijuma> nmatrix9: not as good as the consumer distros because they have more recent kernel releases
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[06:26:03] <nmatrix9> ijuma, Error: Missing Dependency: firefox = 1.5.0.12-9.el5.centos is needed by package firefox-devel
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[06:27:12] <ijuma> nmatrix9: I am out for the night. You should sort out your yum repos or just use a consumer distro imho. Later.
[06:27:24] <nmatrix9> ijuma, ok thanks later
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[06:55:51] <Bala> hi
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[07:18:40] <phoenix> hi all, this is phoenix.
[07:18:55] <phoenix> i am curious to know how the "java structure compare" works in eclipse?
[07:19:25] <phoenix> could some help in pointing me to the correct direction?
[07:20:02] <phoenix> i am new with IRC. take no offense if i make mistakes :)
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[07:21:34] <phoenix_java> hi all,
[07:21:51] <phoenix_java> any info on "java structure compare" - how it is implemented by eclipse?
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[07:36:16] <phoenix_java> anyone there who could help me with java structure comapre in eclipse ? need pointers to how it is implemented
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[08:52:29] <phoenix_java> anyone knows how the "java structure compare" works in eclipse?
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[09:47:06] <litrik> HI all
[09:47:26] <litrik> Has anybody tried to install the new 3.4M6 SDK using "equinox.p2.installer-3.4M6" ?
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[09:53:04] <phoenix_java> exit
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[09:53:29] <litrik> I choose a directory in the installer and after 10 seconds it says: SDK installed but nothing was downloaded/installed
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[09:56:37] <AMorozov> Hi!
[09:57:02] <AMorozov> How to define a literal constant in CDT (4.0.x)  ?
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[09:58:37] <AMorozov> I need a constant pointing to some path.the original C code looks lke#define A_CONSTANT "/var/lib/some"
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[09:59:59] <AMorozov> is it possible to define such a preprocessor symbol for the project?
[10:01:44] <AMorozov> Currently the problem is that eclipse/CDT looses quotes ( " ) around symbol value, and everything breaks obviously.
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[10:03:33] <AMorozov> Anybody home?
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[10:03:40] <J-jayz-Z> hi guys
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[10:04:01] <J-jayz-Z> I've got a problem, installing symfoclipse
[10:04:36] <J-jayz-Z> Got the following error message: PDT Feature (1.0.1.v20071210-79-78E7QYGHEPYPG) requires feature "org.eclipse.wst (2.0.0)", or compatible
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[10:05:22] <J-jayz-Z> is there a way to reinstall or update org.eclipse.wst?
[10:06:36] <J-jayz-Z> ok, next question
[10:06:40] <J-jayz-Z> someone here?
[10:06:41] <J-jayz-Z> :D
[10:07:36] <AMorozov> J-jayz-Z: actually it looks like everybody who could answer asleep. Only pathetic loosers like us awoke :-)
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[10:09:33] <AMorozov> J-jayz-Z: I would suggest you to install only "compatible" things, or maybe tried to upgrade your eclipse installation via Help -> Software updates -> Find and Install menu option
[10:10:25] <J-jayz-Z> AMorozov: I knew these feature
[10:10:31] <AMorozov> But I also installed eclipse just few days ago and probably don't know about all potential problems and workarounds.
[10:10:38] <J-jayz-Z> AMorozov: but I'm using easyeclipse for php development
[10:10:58] <J-jayz-Z> AMorozov: there are some ... conflicts or something else with pdt and so on
[10:11:32] <J-jayz-Z> AMorozov: had to reinstall PDT again manually for solving some requirements
[10:12:07] <J-jayz-Z> hmm, google helps not. These error message is never posted as "main-problem"
[10:12:47] <J-jayz-Z> damn, symfoclipse seems to be a needable plugin for me :-\
[10:13:13] <AMorozov> Well, probably you need to talk with people who knows exactly how to solve your particular problem. Or just try to use all those "auto-upgrade" features and hope they work :-)
[10:13:29] <J-jayz-Z> AMorozov: still did it
[10:13:57] <J-jayz-Z> AMorozov: but easyeclipse is flying out of the roll - or looks like
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[10:16:32] <J-jayz-Z> [x] Deinstall easyEclipse for PHP
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[10:47:35] <alexanderbienz> Can anyone recommend a good HTML/CSS plugin apart from Aptana please?
[10:48:20] <J-jayz-Z> alexanderbienz: pdt includes a nice editor component for this
[10:49:05] <alexanderbienz> sounds interesting, however it's a php bundled plugin, I'd rather something more front-end orientated
[10:49:07] <alexanderbienz> like WTP
[10:50:13] <J-jayz-Z> ah, you know wtp
[10:50:16] <J-jayz-Z> ever used?
[10:50:28] <alexanderbienz> yes, I feel it falls just short of teh mark
[10:50:29] <J-jayz-Z> found this site for web development: http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/index.php
[10:50:44] <alexanderbienz> yep, that's the one
[10:51:18] <alexanderbienz> I think PDT uses the WTP tools
[10:51:52] <J-jayz-Z> alexanderbienz: yes, but changes the editor component a bit
[10:52:34] <alexanderbienz> ah
[10:52:35] <J-jayz-Z> alexanderbienz: more usable code completion, better syntax highlightning (in php, don't know if the css/html one is also better)
[10:52:57] <J-jayz-Z> but the css and html/xhtml code completion is very nice
[10:53:49] <J-jayz-Z> But I must add - only read the changelogs and articles about wtp. never used
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[10:59:25] <J-jayz-Z> alexanderbienz: If you found something interesting, maybe you can tell me? I'm also working as a web developer, using eclipse. nice plugins are always welcome ...
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[11:01:20] <J-jayz-Z> damn ...
[11:01:56] <J-jayz-Z> Got the following error after clicking "Find and Install..." and select the symfoclipse installation: Current configuration problems
[11:02:31] <alexanderbienz> symfoclipse?
[11:02:57] <J-jayz-Z> yes, a eclipse plugin for the symfony command line
[11:03:00] <J-jayz-Z> *an
[11:03:03] <alexanderbienz> oh I see
[11:03:09] <alexanderbienz> I'm going to take a look at WTP
[11:03:18] <alexanderbienz> they've made quite a few changes since I last looked
[11:03:41] <J-jayz-Z> ok, maybe you can tell me your experience some time ...
[11:03:56] <J-jayz-Z> Enough to do for getting these ***** plugin work ...
[11:04:21] <alexanderbienz> yep, will do
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[11:13:05] <J-jayz-Z> alexanderbienz: thanks
[11:13:09] <Xenon75> Hi everybody. Does anybody know how to refresh quick assist/autocompletion caches? I have installed 3.4M6 and I have no more quick-assist feature even for the simpler things. 3.4M5 works fine, so I think it's something related to caches/cache data format incompatibility or whatever. (I did a clean all/rebuild workspace but no luck :( )
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[11:22:31] <alexanderbienz> J-jayz-Z: WTP seems pretty good, it's simple but effective
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[11:24:23] <philk__> hmmm installed the new M6 and all the XML highlighting is gone...
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[11:27:53] <J-jayz-Z> alexanderbienz: is the html/css code completion working fine?
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[11:57:44] <fatbob> are questions about debugging in PDT likely to get answers here?
[11:58:03] <J-jayz-Z> fatbob: still ask, you'll see ;)
[11:58:04] <benny`work> fatbob, you can try :)
[11:58:26] <J-jayz-Z> someone knows, of which package "org.eclipse.emf.common (2.2.0)" is part of?
[11:58:40] <J-jayz-Z> WST Web Services UI (2.0.2.v200802150100-791ECIAufYO9BlarnPCFGewtZiN1) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.emf.common (2.2.0)", or compatible
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[12:00:30] <fatbob> i've got pdt and xdebug in xampp setup, and debugging as PHP Script works, however Debug As > PHP Web Page only seems to work on pages that require a POST/GET - a direct URL just passes through without catching breakpoints.. ?
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[12:03:37] <JOSF> Does anyone know, what that means, if I have each and every module in the configuration manager twice ? I know it means, that my config is hosed, but what can I do to find *where* it is hosed ?
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[13:06:47] <ducbian> Is there a way to force the new Europa maintenance release of the CDT to scan a projects .h and .cpp files for code complete stuff? Mine seems to have stopped even though content assist is on.
[13:12:10] <ducbian> Ah, found it - it's in the indexer.
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[13:31:08] <J-jayz-Z> http://ssi-design.de/screenshot.png - any ideas?
[13:34:53] <nitind> J-jayz-Z: Any info?  Which Eclipse version are you starting with?  Is EMF already installed?
[13:38:17] <J-jayz-Z> nitind: 3.3.2 - don't know about emf. What is this for a plugin? Same name online or read out of the context from the error msg?
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[13:49:27] <Gatestone> I may be stupid but with Ubuntu Gutsy and Eclipse I can't get the samples from the net, the C/C++ tutorials seems broken, and I don't know how to import my hello_world.c + Makefile. Any help? let's start by importing my hello_world.c and Makefile from the one directory they are in. How do I do that?
[13:50:32] <paulweb515> Gatestone: do you have a C/C++ project first?  If not, you might use File>New>Other ... there might be a "new project from makefile"
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[13:50:48] <paulweb515> Gatestone: if you already have a C++ project, then maybe under File>Import...
[13:51:03] <amitev> hi all
[13:51:11] <amitev> is there a way to export the key settings
[13:51:12] <amitev> ?
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[13:51:47] <rcjsuen> ~tell J-jayz-Z about pdt-install
[13:51:48] <KOS-MOS> J-jayz-Z: Trying to install PDT? See http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/Installation
[13:51:49] <Gatestone> Shoudl I choose managed make or standard nake for new project I am creating?
[13:52:14] <rcjsuen> Xenon75: Does it work on a new workspace?
[13:52:57] <rcjsuen> fatbob: you could try the pdt newsgroup
[13:53:05] <Gatestone> And that will create a new project, should I then File/Import files to it, or what?
[13:53:06] <J-jayz-Z> KOS-MOS: sure, pdt is installed
[13:53:13] <J-jayz-Z> KOS-MOS: like wpt and wst
[13:53:37] <J-jayz-Z> KOS-MOS: found an plugin, which called emf, i'm on the installation now
[13:53:42] <Xenon75> rcjsuen: Yes, it does
[13:53:43] <J-jayz-Z> maybe it works, try now
[13:53:44] <Gatestone> But File/Import only offers to import "C/C++ executables" for me....?
[13:53:57] <rcjsuen> Xenon75: check your content assist preferences
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[13:55:58] <Gatestone> Ok, I imported a "file system" and got my files hello.c and Makefile there. But it still says
[13:55:59] <Gatestone> make: *** No rule to make target `all' when I try to build. I have a target "all" in the Makefile.
[13:56:20] <Xenon75> rcjsuen: what should I look for exactly?  It seems to be ok
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[13:56:54] <rcjsuen> Java > Editor > Content Assist > Advanced I think
[13:56:56] <rcjsuen> or something like that
[13:57:00] <rcjsuen> look for check boxes
[13:57:01] <rcjsuen> either in CA
[13:57:02] <rcjsuen> or in Adv
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[13:58:57] <Xenon75> rcjsuen: bingo. in "advanced" many things were unchecked
[13:59:02] <Xenon75> rcjsuen: thanks!
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[14:17:19] <matt1s> Is there a reason that the reported max heap size I get is 64M, but I'm specifying 1024M as maximum?
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[14:18:38] <ijuma> matt1s: we need more information
[14:18:41] <ijuma> ~memory
[14:18:41] <KOS-MOS> Having memory problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
[14:18:45] <ijuma> that may be useful
[14:18:55] <J-jayz-Z> oh my godness ...
[14:19:14] <J-jayz-Z> still installed nearly 50 plugins for getting symfoclipse work ...
[14:19:36] <ijuma> J-jayz-Z: btw, KOS-MOS is a bot ;)
[14:20:15] <J-jayz-Z> ijuma: lol
[14:20:20] <J-jayz-Z> ijuma: really? :D
[14:20:29] <ijuma> yeah
[14:20:30] <J-jayz-Z> ijuma: some good coder in the background ;)
[14:20:33] <ijuma> ~help
[14:20:33] <KOS-MOS> Looking for help? Go look at the FAQs first - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:FAQ You may also want to try asking for help on the newsgroup. http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups Still no luck? Just ask the question! To help us help you, please provide information about your system, see ~info. For a list of the commands I provide, please see ~list.
[14:21:12] <ijuma> J-jayz-Z: he's here
[14:21:20] <ijuma> ~tell J-jayz-Z about rcjsuen
[14:21:24] <rcjsuen> J-jayz-Z: I'm not sure if there's anything special about programming an application to send arbitrary messages to a channel, but okay ;)
[14:21:38] <ijuma> ~about
[14:21:39] <KOS-MOS> I am an IRC bot written by rcjsuen with help from the #eclipse community using the ECF bot framework. See http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_bot for more details.
[14:21:42] <ijuma> ah
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[14:21:53] <ijuma> njbartlett: fierce blog post ;)
[14:22:00] <rcjsuen> fighting words
[14:22:29] <philk_> hmmmm content assist fuer JDT does not work anymore in 3.4M6
[14:22:35] <njbartlett> ijuma: Hehe, it's time to talk tough ;-)
[14:22:36] <philk_> i have not cleared my workspace of course
[14:22:40] <J-jayz-Z> ah, lol
[14:23:00] <J-jayz-Z> I havn't seen your command on step before :D
[14:23:13] <ijuma> njbartlett: yeah. It's funny because I was thinking the exact same thing a few days about the several promises from the spec lead that were never followed through
[14:23:31] <philk_> njbartlett: whats the blog post you talk about here?
[14:23:32] <ijuma> he always says, "X will happen soon. stay tuned."
[14:23:33] <njbartlett> ijuma: Yup. And he always seems to be on holiday!
[14:23:34] <ijuma> and that's that
[14:23:43] <matt1s> ijuma: thanks, I'm looking at it now. This applies to Eclipse on Windows though, I'm using Zend's version of eclipse on linux
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[14:24:10] <ijuma> matt1s: the memory issues should be cross-platform
[14:25:01] <st3-f> hi all. i am currently trying to get glassfish running from within eclipse. the problem i am having is that eclipse cannot publish to the server, due to a NullPointerException, has anyone experienced the same issue?
[14:25:19] <ijuma> njbartlett: Also, I think he worked on webstart before, that doesn't inspire me with much confidence. I think webstart is a good idea, but the implementation...oh my
[14:25:36] <njbartlett> philk_: http://neilbartlett.name/blog/
[14:26:01] <matt1s> ijuma: I tried to change the amounts from commandline when starting eclipse, but other applications terminated instead heh
[14:26:14] <ijuma> other applications terminated?!
[14:26:33] <rcjsuen> er
[14:26:56] <matt1s> ijuma: yeah, firefox and thunderbird exited when I set the memory limits too high
[14:26:59] <philk_> njbartlett: thanks
[14:27:14] <ijuma> matt1s: how much memory do you have?
[14:27:48] <matt1s> ijuma: 2GB
[14:27:59] <ijuma> matt1s: and how much are you giving to eclipse?
[14:28:10] <matt1s> ijuma: 1GB
[14:28:12] <my007ms> i have project a ready can i import it into Eclipse
[14:28:46] <ijuma> matt1s: that's weird to be honest, but maybe you can try a bit less and see if it helps
[14:28:49] <matt1s> ijuma: But it doesn't reflect on the max heap size though. I'm kind of wondering if it's reading the .ini file at all
[14:28:55] <ijuma> in theory, the other apps should fit in 1GB
[14:29:06] <ijuma> matt1s: are you using a distro eclipse?
[14:29:06] <J-jayz-Z> yeah
[14:29:09] <J-jayz-Z> plugin is installed
[14:29:10] <ijuma> or from eclipse.org?
[14:29:15] <J-jayz-Z> after ~ 50 depencies
[14:29:16] <matt1s> ijuma: no I'm using Zend's flavour of eclipse
[14:29:23] <J-jayz-Z> thanks for your help all ;)
[14:29:30] <ijuma> ok, I don't know if they do anything special
[14:30:04] <matt1s> ijuma: They do something. Should it be possible to hook onto the Eclipse process with jstack?
[14:30:47] <ijuma> matt1s: if you're using java 6, just use jconsole
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[14:30:55] <ijuma> i haven't tried jstack
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[14:31:34] <ijuma> but then again, I am not sure what you're trying to find out, jconsole gives a bunch of useful information
[14:31:59] <matt1s> ijuma: It looks like they bunde eclipse with their own JVM
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[14:32:25] <matt1s> s/JVM/JRE
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[14:32:50] <m0`> Hello, how can we integrate Ant into our EJB project?
[14:32:58] <ijuma> matt1s: I see
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[14:36:20] <ijuma> http://www.eclipse.org/org/press-release/20080401_nextgen.php
[14:36:28] <ijuma> just like magic ;)
[14:38:34] <m0`> Anyone knows how? my ant script has alot of stuff, I would like to integrate that to the eclipse environment
[14:38:55] <m0`> I see a bunch of dependency errors, but that build.xml should resolve them.
[14:39:30] <m0`> In netbeans, all I do is include that build.xml to the project properties and I see no errors and I could compile it
[14:39:48] <m0`> But in eclipse, many dependency errors, so I have to goto command prompt and run the ant script
[14:39:53] <benny`work> ijuma, lol
[14:40:01] <ijuma> m0`: have you tried import?
[14:40:16] <m0`> import the dependencies?
[14:40:18] * ijuma seems to recall an import from ant
[14:40:26] <ijuma> but to be honest, i've never used it
[14:40:52] <m0`> hmm
[14:41:27] <ijuma> m0`: basically netbeans build system is based on ant, while eclipse's is not. You need something to import the data from the ant script
[14:41:45] <m0`> Yea
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[14:42:19] <ijuma> I wonder if I imagined the import from ant thing, benny`work do you know anything about this?
[14:42:47] <m0`> i downloaded the jee europa winter now to see if that will make a diff
[14:43:02] <benny`work> would be interesting which errors you see
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[14:43:52] <m0`> let me run it again
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[14:45:43] <matt1s> ijuma: It was using java 5, but I symlinked the bundled jre to the system jre instead and it's now using Java 6. Strange thing though, is that I can't connect to the process with jconsole
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[14:47:16] <ijuma> matt1s: what happens when you try to connect?
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[14:47:43] <ijuma> I've tried many things with eclipse and it has always worked
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[14:48:04] <ijuma> one quirk is that the process name is not shown in jconsole's list of processes
[14:48:05] <level09> hi, how do I change the default workspace path ?
[14:48:18] <rcjsuen> level09: just use File > Switch Workspace
[14:48:26] <rcjsuen> and the next time it should use that
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[14:50:11] <level09> i'm using pdt, so I should normally set a workspace path to be in my server's root right ?
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[14:51:49] <matt1s> ijuma: It just tells me that it couldn't connect to the process
[14:52:03] <matt1s> ijuma: Yeah, I identified the process by the PID instead
[14:52:57] <ijuma> matt1s: weird
[14:53:04] <matt1s> ijuma: I'm wrapping the binary Eclipse file in a shell script now and going to try and pass some command line arguments to the JVM instead and see if I can force it to up memory limit
[14:53:42] <ijuma> matt1s: worth a shot.
[14:54:00] * ijuma always use shell scripts to launch eclipse
[14:54:37] <matt1s> Does -Xms / -Xmx / -Xmn affect the mamximum heap size?
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[14:56:34] <m0`> ijuma: it says Project is missing required library
[14:57:03] <m0`> ijuma: and when I run the build.xml it says build fail from ant
[14:57:29] <ijuma> matt1s: -Xmx but it has to be after -vmargs
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[14:57:46] <ijuma> and if it's in eclipse.ini, each argument should be in its own line
[14:57:52] <m0`> benny`work: is there a import from ant?
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[14:59:03] <N6REJ> morning folks, I"m very confused about how workspace/prjects etc... all interplay... what is the difference between "new project from wizard" and checkout in workspace?
[14:59:06] <matt1s> ijuma: It's both in Eclipse.ini (ZendStudio.ini here) and I've added it to the end of the shell script that I'm wrapping eclipse in.. no luck though. I even tried to set bogus values, but I don't get any errors, so I'm fearing it might not read it at all
[15:01:33] <ijuma> matt1s: hard to say what's going on, if you could maybe get the launch command, that would maybe give some clues
[15:01:45] <ijuma> ps or a task manager should give that info
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[15:02:43] <N6REJ> can anyone please clear this up?  I know its a noob question but somehow I keep getting things messed up.
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[15:07:21] <benny`work> m0`, it "detailled" error message would be helpful :)
[15:07:37] <benny`work> m0`, i just think that the required ant tasks are not the class path of your launch configuration
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[15:08:15] <benny`work> N6REJ, new project creates a new project from scratch while checkout means that it creates a new project based on a project in CVS/SVN
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[15:08:56] <m0`> benny`work: Project 'dev-6_3-branch' is missing required library: 'thirdparty/commons-httpclient.jar'		dev-6_3-branch	Build path	1206993716646	26069
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[15:09:15] <matt1s> ijuma: I have tried, but ps doesn't show the process tree down to java, and I can't figure out any other way to find it either
[15:09:29] <N6REJ> benny`work: i think the last one is what I want.  I have a mydocuments/JForge which is my workspace, in there I want all of the projects I have on Jforge.  I already have uploaded the files to the svn.
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[15:09:58] <N6REJ> benny`work: i just discovered there is a php builder, but I don't know a thing about it... my builder i'm using is causing lots of problems.
[15:09:59] <benny`work> m0`, there you have it. you need to put the commons-httpclient.jar on the classpath so ant can find it
[15:10:03] <m0`> benny`work: But they are all included in the ant script
[15:10:26] <m0`> benny`work: if I goto command prompt and do ant build.all, it works fine
[15:10:34] <m0`> benny`work: if I include that ant script to netbeans, it works fine
[15:10:39] <benny`work> m0`, but also i nthe launch configuration? open the ant launch config and check the tabs
[15:11:05] <m0`> benny`work: in the project properties?
[15:11:07] <ijuma> matt1s: ps aux | grep java ?
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[15:12:35] <benny`work> m0`, when you launch an ant file eclipse creates a launch configuration for you (see Run | external tools). there you can setup classpath etc
[15:13:04] <matt1s> ijuma: is it possible to start eclipse with a 'java -jar ...' command?
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[15:13:35] <m0`> benny`work: oh crap I realized that the class path has a backward slash for this library ;x eclispe doesn't recognize back slash
[15:13:50] <m0`> other ide's did, let me try making them forward slash
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[15:15:31] * N6REJ can't figure out why he's having so much trouble understanding something that should be simple
[15:16:05] <ijuma> matt1s: is it with the old launcher, but the new launcher makes thing more complicated. I am not familiar with that, so you'll have to ask someone else or google for it
[15:16:50] <matt1s> ijuma: hm.. Zend comes with a startup.jar, but trying to start it only exits without any errors
[15:17:11] <benny`work> N6REJ, what has the builder to do with project creation?
[15:17:22] <matt1s> ijuma: and ps doesn't show any java processes, just the ZendEclipse binary
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[15:18:27] <ijuma> matt1s: right, and doesn't that include a bunch of parameters?
[15:18:44] <N6REJ> benny`work:  Thats the whole problem, I'm not sure... I create my project, get it into the dir structure I want, and then when I run my builder its incorporating everything in the trunk including the .svn and such which it should not  Once I had it set up perfectly but then I "upgraded" eclipse and it messed up everything and ever since I can't get it back the right way
[15:19:06] <matt1s> ijuma: nope, nothing, just the path to the binary file and nothing else
[15:19:09] <N6REJ> benny`work: i'm missing some very basic concept and RTFM isn't making it any clearer
[15:19:33] <benny`work> N6REJ, what do you mean with "you'e running the builder" ??
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[15:19:43] <N6REJ> benny`work: let me show you
[15:20:10] <N6REJ> benny`work: although I just learned this morning there is a php builder included in eclipse but I don't know anythinga bout it... but let me show you.
[15:20:18] <ijuma> matt1s: zend sucks? ;)
[15:20:27] <ijuma> matt1s: seriously now, try googling for zend memory eclipse
[15:20:34] <ijuma> maybe there's some info
[15:20:58] <matt1s> ijuma: I have, and none of the hits have helped me :-l I'll give it another go though
[15:21:10] <benny`work> N6REJ, no there is none included. i think you're using PDT or phpeclipse right?
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[15:21:27] <N6REJ> benny`work: yeah i'm using PDT
[15:21:33] <benny`work> ok
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[15:22:59] <N6REJ> benny`work: ok if you look here http://pastebin.com/m17063192 you'll see the instructions... and here.. http://pastebin.com/m6a532979 is the config file
[15:23:52] <benny`work> N6REJ, and what has this J!Build to do with eclipse?
[15:24:50] <N6REJ> benny`work: somehow i'm not putting it into eclipse properly everytime because like I said, i've only gotten it to work properly one time, and I know they guy that wrote it and its not him, its something i'm "dooing"
[15:25:00] <N6REJ> s/dooing/doing/
[15:25:28] <N6REJ> maybe I'm not explaining myself properly :(
[15:25:44] <benny`work> N6REJ, i don't get the point. is that a specific plugin or something? i don't see the relation between eclipse and that j build doesn't work
[15:25:51] <benny`work> ijuma, do you get it?
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[15:26:43] <N6REJ> benny`work: let me think how to explain it better
[15:26:44] <ijuma> benny`work: nope, and I am not going to try ;)
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[15:28:30] <N6REJ> I think the problem is I'm not understanding how to use that in eclipse without it compiling everything into the packages.
[15:29:09] <ijuma> eclipse works best if you don't fight it
[15:29:11] <N6REJ> benny`work: when I say everything I mean this last time it even brought EVERYTHING in the workspace into the pacakge
[15:29:22] <ijuma> so, use projects in a workspace, etc.
[15:29:34] <N6REJ> ijuma: are you talking to me?
[15:30:18] <ijuma> yes and no. I didn't read things carefully enough to know exactly what your problem is, just responding to the "without it compiling into the packages"
[15:30:38] <N6REJ> ijuma: yeah I'm not trying to fight eclipse .... least not intentionally
[15:30:55] <benny`work> ^^
[15:31:27] <matt1s> ijuma: I just found an article on Zend that explains how to install Zend Studio For Eclipse as a plugin instead of downloading their version. Think I'll try that instead so I can base it off a vanilla installation
[15:31:35] <matt1s> ijuma: thanks for your help!
[15:31:44] <ijuma> matt1s: yeah, that's usually better
[15:31:47] <ijuma> np, and good luck
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[15:31:57] <rindolf> Hi all!
[15:32:02] <benny`work> hi rindolf
[15:32:14] <rindolf> How do I do remote gdb debugging using Eclipse CDT?
[15:32:34] <benny`work> uh...
[15:32:36] <N6REJ> ijuma: if you look at http://www.n6rej.com/Noname.jpg you'll see my dir structure right now... which as far as I know is fine.
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[15:36:11] <benny`work> rindolf, i can't tell you. most the there are no cdt users in here. i think you'd better asking it on the cdt newsgroup
[15:36:12] <benny`work> ~cdt
[15:36:13] <KOS-MOS> Take a look at the C/C++ Development Tools - http://www.eclipse.org/cdt
[15:38:08] <N6REJ> ijuma: am I ok so far?
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[15:48:00] <N6REJ> ok, i've finally figured out the exact problem... for some reason the builder is including the .svn .settings, etc....
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[16:13:25] <matt1s> ijuma: The update manager is complaining it needs some dependencies, but even though I click "Select required" and some other packages get selected, it's still complaining
[16:14:09] <ijuma> matt1s: which ones in particular?
[16:14:24] <matt1s> org.eclipse.wst.xml_ui.feature
[16:14:59] <rindolf> benny`work: I think I found it - one can specify a gdb startup command file in the debugging options, and specify a target there.
[16:15:06] <rindolf> The target gdb command I mean.
[16:16:48] <benny`work> rindolf, ah great! good to know. it's just hard for me to answer such questions as i don't use cdt
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[16:18:01] <rindolf> benny`work: at least I think this should do the trick.
[16:18:06] <rindolf> benny`work: I'm not sure it worked.
[16:18:17] <rindolf> benny`work: you should also run gdbserver on the target machine.
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[16:23:03] <javahorn> any bot here ?
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[16:24:20] <ijuma> matt1s: have you included the europa update center?
[16:24:52] <nitind> javahorn: Why do you ask?
[16:25:14] <matt1s> ijuma: I hope so, but it doesn't look like the update manager is able to resolve the dependencies by itself. I'm doing everything manually, looks like it's working
[16:25:32] <nitind> matt1s: Try expanding the various categories on the tree.  There's a bug where it might not search for dependencies if you don't expand the tree of features completely.
[16:26:22] <matt1s> nitind: I have already done that, and it selects packages in the tree, but I still get missing dependencies error
[16:26:54] <nitind> Which ones?  And are you starting with a 3.3.x platform?
[16:27:11] <ijuma> it usually works for me (Select Required that is)
[16:27:54] <matt1s> nitind: two secs, I just installed some of it manually and had to restart eclipse
[16:28:06] <matt1s> nitind: I have Eclipse 3.2.2
[16:28:18] <benny`work> ~tell javahorn about yourself
[16:28:28] <benny`work> :p
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[16:29:36] <javahorn> benny'work you are bot ?
[16:30:15] <nitind> matt1s: Europa's atnd WTP 2.0 are meant to run on top of Eclipse 3.3.
[16:32:02] <nitind> javahorn: Is there a package declaration in the source file itself?
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[16:32:53] <amvapor> anyone know where I can change the default template for *.class.php files?
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[16:33:21] <nitind> amvapor: You've looked in the Preferences dialog?
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[16:34:04] <amvapor> yeah, I can change the default for *.php, but not for *.class.php
[16:35:15] <nitind> amvapor: Are *.class.php files recognizably something different, and supported by whatever you're using to write them?
[16:36:38] <amvapor> I believe so, I get a code template for *.class.php files that is different then *.php
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[16:38:34] <nitind> javahorn: Your Java project needs to be laid out with the right folder setup.  The package declaration in your source file needs to match the path relative to the source folder it's under.  And that means that if you're declaring a package, your file needs to be in a folder that matches it.
[16:41:39] <javahorn> ok, let me check. can package be declared within the source file ?
[16:41:52] <nitind> javahorn: They have to be if you going to use one.
[16:42:04] <numb_> In Eclipse (PDT) 3.3.0, in the Server config in the Run dialog I could specify where my files should be published on each run. In 3.3.1 it seems this has been replaced with "Server Path Mapping". Anyone know how this is supposed to be used?
[16:43:37] <javahorn> nitind, if a package explorer, for a project, shows a red cross , what does it signify ?
[16:43:52] <nitind> javahorn: Any number of things.  Check the Problems view.
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[16:44:32] <nitind> javahorn: And go through http://help.eclipse.org/help33/topic/org.eclipse.jdt.doc.user/gettingStarted/intro/overview.htm
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[16:52:30] <javahorn> nitind,one basic Q. can we simply put .java files(in notepad) and put it folder (say RoughString) and copy and paste under package explored.First , is it possible, second, will that create all the necessary paths ?
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[16:54:01] <benny`work> javahorn, you can do. just paste a class or bunch of classes and jdt will create a project for you
[16:54:16] <benny`work> with 3.4 you can also paste statements and it will create project, class and main method for you
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[17:00:15] <js23> hi everyone, can I ask for help? how do I create a local archive site?
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[17:02:07] <javahorn> benny'work, perhaps Europa does not support , drag and drop or copy and paste under Project Explorer to open a new project(with .java files) ?
[17:02:26] <benny`work> javahorn, you need to paste the stuff into the "Package" explorer
[17:02:30] <js23> hi paulweb515, I found a substitute solution: Extended VS Presentation plugin for Eclipse
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[17:04:51] <paulweb515> js23: a local site is either a set of directories or an archive  that has the site.xml at the top
[17:06:35] <javahorn> benny'work, it says "can not paste the clipboard  contents" .
[17:06:41] <javahorn> is there any  other way.
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[17:08:33] <js23> paulweb515: I am looking at the zipped file, I tried export>archive file, but the zipped directory is incorrect.
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[17:09:30] <js23> paulweb515: similar goes for deployable features (which doesnt pack the site.xml)
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[17:48:50] <mib_jxuc3mx6> i've placed them in /documents/sess121/src and /bin
[17:48:51] <qualidafial> mib_jxuc3mx6: your nick is hard to type
[17:49:14] <nitind> mib_jxuc3mx6: And the fully qualified class names are?
[17:49:30] <mib_jxuc3mx6> Account.class
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[17:49:49] <qualidafial> mib_jxuc3mx6: nitind is right--you need to ensure that Account is in the correct folder for its package
[17:50:18] <iarp> my package name is sess121 so i placed it in /documents/sess121/bin and /src
[17:50:51] <qualidafial> mib_jxuc3mx6: e.g. if the full class name is com.example.application.Account then you should place the file at /bin/com/example/application/Account.class
[17:51:13] <iarp> hang on
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[17:51:37] <iarp> C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\Sheridan\workspace\PROG10082
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[17:51:55] <FlaPer87> hey guys, is there any w3c validator for eclipse?
[17:53:05] <iarp> in PROG10082 i have /src and /bin and in /bin/sess121 is where i've placed the .class
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[17:53:48] <m0`> Hello, I created an Entreprise Java Application project, but how do I import my existing EJB source files including the Ant Script which includes all the dependencies and stuff
[17:54:43] <qualidafial> iarp: have you made sure that the /bin folder is not being clobbered by JDT on project cleanup?
[17:55:45] <iarp> i'm new to this program, so i've most likely neverdone a cleanup
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[17:56:08] <qualidafial> JDT does cleanup automatically
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[17:56:13] <iarp> oh ok
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[17:56:36] <qualidafial> iarp: if you go into Project Properties, then select Java Build Path, then click the Libraries tab,  you can add a separate class folder ("Add Class Folder") inside the project for .class files with no corresponding sources
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[17:56:46] <bobbytek2> Anyone using the testng plugin?
[17:57:01] <bobbytek2> just wondering if I can change the path of temp-testng-customsuite.xml
[17:57:09] <nitind> FlaPer87: No, but there is HTML validation.
[17:57:18] <bobbytek2> kinda annoying how it spits it out in the root of the project
[17:57:44] <iarp> qualidafial thank-you
[17:57:52] <qualidafial> iarp: got it?
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[17:59:15] <iarp> none of the build paths i add are staying, keep getting access denied
[17:59:59] <qualidafial> try adding the folder in package explorer first, then go back into project properties and add the existing folder as a .class folder
[18:01:15] <iarp> i have to change to wireless, i may get disconnect brb
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[18:02:55] <iapr> my old nicknames still in use
[18:03:04] <qualidafial> iapr: np
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[18:04:09] <iarp> ok, well somehow  in project explorer al my .java programs are not being listed
[18:04:39] <qualidafial> iapr: try prepending your messages with my nickname--if I'm away from the chat window I'll get a chime that somebody is talking to me
[18:05:00] <iarp> unsure how to do that
[18:05:05] <zx>  /whois iarp
[18:05:19] <zx> ar, I'm an irc newb today :)
[18:05:35] <iarp> lol all i remember how to do, is change my nick
[18:05:51] <jink> iarp: qu<tab> message here
[18:06:03] <iarp> qualidafial:  ah ok
[18:06:06] <jink> ^__^
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[18:07:05] <qualidafial> iarp: what folder did you add as the .class folder?
[18:07:18] <iarp> qualidafial:  both /src and /bin
[18:07:21] <matt1s> nitind: I figured it out. The *.ini file in the Eclipse folder needs to have the same name as the executable
[18:07:28] <qualidafial> iarp: that's why your sources are missing
[18:07:50] <iarp> qualidafial:  should only be under src?
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[18:08:14] <qualidafial> iarp: no, /src should not be a .class (binary) folder
[18:08:43] <qualidafial> iarp: add a new folder to the root of the project, say "/lib", then mark that folder in project preferences as a .class folder
[18:11:38] <iarp> qualidafial:  whenever i go to add the class folder all that shows up is PROG10082 -> src -> and both general and sess121, they don't go any deeper, i added the lib folder under sess121 but stil nothing
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[18:12:15] <qualidafial> iarp: when you add the lib folder as a .class folder, does it disappear in package explorer?
[18:12:38] <iarp> qualidafial:  it's not even listed
[18:13:11] <qualidafial> iarp: click the white down-arrow icon in the top-right of package explorer, and select "Filters.."
[18:14:12] <iarp> qualidafial:  nope
[18:14:57] <iarp> qualidafial:  i'm trying to figure out why .classpath isn't writeableby anything
[18:15:26] <qualidafial> iarp: have you ruled out filesystem permissions?
[18:15:38] <iarp> one second
[18:16:24] <qualidafial> iarp: try opening the Project Explorer view: Window -> Show View -> Other, General / Project Explorer
[18:16:30] <qualidafial> Your binary resources should show up there
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[18:18:52] <iarp> qualidafial:  now i see src, JRE System Library, bin, lib under the header PROG10082
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[18:20:21] <qualidafial> iarp: the Project Explorer view will give you a literal view of the filesystem, without reinterpreting the files with Java idioms
[18:21:08] <qualidafial> iarp: you should be able to create your file structure in Project Explorer, paste your .class file, and then be able to locate the class by Ctrl+Shift+T (find class) and typing "Account"
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[18:22:47] <setuid> Question: is it possible to stop Eclipse from constantly going out to try to find updates to plugins? We have eclipse and its plugins installed in a read-only fileysystem.
[18:22:54] <setuid> And so when it tries to go out and install plugins, it fails.
[18:23:49] <qualidafial> setuid: yes, it's in Window -> Preferences, Install/Update -> Automatic Updates
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[18:26:11] <jimcan> Hi all
[18:26:26] <zx> jimcan: howdy
[18:26:36] <setuid> qualidafial, We don't do Windows
[18:26:43] <setuid> er... wait, n/m ;)
[18:27:00] <jimcan> Is there a listener that allows me to determine whenever a file gets saved
[18:27:37] <jimcan> I noticed that there is an ISaveablesLifecycleListener
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[18:27:47] <jimcan> but where would I register that?
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[18:32:57] <ghais> hi, I have a folder containing .class files. Eclipse keeps complaining that it cannot resolve symbols from that folder. I have tried adding a class folder to the build path, placing the folder inside the src folder. I cannot seem to get it to work. Any advice?
[18:34:18] <ghais> I have even tried creating a jar file out of it, then adding it to the build path by adding an external jar.
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[18:35:33] <ghais> When i try a manual compilation 'javac *.java' with the folder containing the .class files as the top level I get no errors and everything seems to be fine, therefore it is not a syntax error on my behalf or anything of that sort
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[18:42:06] <Domenique> hi guys
[18:42:15] <Domenique> I have a quick question
[18:42:25] <Domenique> I'm developing an rcp application
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[18:42:38] <Domenique> and I've set the saveAndRestore option to true
[18:42:53] <Domenique> to save the window prefs and perspectives
[18:43:22] <Domenique> but I want to force that a certain perspective is automaticely shown when the program starts
[18:43:31] <Domenique> does anyone have any idea how to do this ?
[18:43:42] <Domenique> can I override a setting that he saves ?
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[19:09:14] <oledole> Q: I'
[19:09:17] <oledole> bah
[19:09:53] <oledole> Q: I'm trying to figure out what the best workflow is for using _and_ developing on Eclipse (and plugins) is. Can someone help me out?
[19:11:16] <oledole> Let's say I want to work on CDT, which Eclipse platform would I then use? CVS? Or any of the M-releases?
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[19:12:35] <ChrisRecoskie> oledole:  if you want to stay current, it's best to develop patches using what's in the CDT CVS... otherwise there may be too much churn for you right now and you could end up having to redo your patch to make it match what's in HEAD anyway
[19:13:55] <ChrisRecoskie> oledole:  HEAD of CDT I think is going to require platform's M6
[19:14:17] <oledole> ChrisRecoskie: okey, so my scenario is this: i develop c++ in my work, and want to use Eclipse with CDT. But, I also want to fix bugs i find in CDT.
[19:14:54] <ChrisRecoskie> i wouldn't suggest combining platform from HEAD and CDT as they are not kept in sync except after the platform does a milestone
[19:15:51] <ChrisRecoskie> oledole:  ok... I suggest then use a stable version for your day to day work, and when you want to fix a bug I suggest currently Platform M6 and CDT from CVS
[19:16:26] <oledole> ChrisRecoskie: okey, so i would then have a Ganymede M5 package of Eclipse for RCP/Plug-in Developers, use that to checkout HEAD of both platform and CDT, and then export that into a install that I would then use in my daily work
[19:16:27] <oledole> ?
[19:17:37] <oledole> or would i require platform and plugin-dev HEAD too, to develop platform HEAD and CDT HEAD?
[19:18:29] <ChrisRecoskie> oledole:  close.  I think you will have trouble if you use HEAD of both Platform and CDT.  Use Platform M6 and use that to get CDT from CVS.  Using HEAD of either for day to day work may be risky, but people do it.  It just depends on how much risk you are willing to take, in case someone introduces a bug.
[19:18:42] <ChrisRecoskie> really, it's up to you
[19:20:10] <oledole> i see your point. Okey, so Platform M6 + PluginDev M6 for checking out and working on CDT HEAD, which i then package into Platform M6 + CDT HEAD for my daily work?
[19:20:59] <ChrisRecoskie> that is a compatible setup, yes
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[19:21:28] <oledole> ChrisRecoskie: okey, cool :) Thanks!
[19:21:51] <ChrisRecoskie> oledole: no problem
[19:21:54] <oledole> ChrisRecoskie: So does that mean that CDT HEAD development is based on the latest M6? I won't risk having CDT code in HEAD that relies on Platform HEAD features?
[19:22:20] <ChrisRecoskie> oldedole: correct, we only sync up to the platform after each milestone, we don't track their HEAD day to day
[19:22:32] <oledole> ChrisRecoskie: perfect :D Are you a CDT dev?
[19:22:36] <ChrisRecoskie> yes
[19:23:24] <oledole> ChrisRecoskie: sweet. Hoping to give a helping hand once i get this thing set up. Thanks for your help again :)
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[19:23:34] <ChrisRecoskie> if you have trouble setting up the CVS ping me, the instructions on the wiki might be old
[19:24:05] <ChrisRecoskie> most stuff lives under org.eclipse.cdt/all
[19:24:39] <ChrisRecoskie> if you want to work on some of the more niche plugins then you might have to check those out from a different folder
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[19:25:06] <ChrisRecoskie> really we should have Team Project Set files for all these that people can just easily load :-(
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[19:26:55] <dominikg> ChrisRecoskie, maybe you can use p2 to offer installers that do it? (given that p2 supports cvs/svn backends, havn't had the time to read all about it jet)
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[19:28:01] <ChrisRecoskie> dominikg:  interesting.  We're only just starting to look at p2 so maybe that's something to keep in mind
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[19:30:24] <mohbana> are the majority of eclipse developers from canada
[19:30:45] <rcjsuen> depends what you mean by "Eclipse"
[19:30:52] <rcjsuen> a lot of the Eclipse _Platform_ team is in Canada (Ottawa), yes
[19:31:03] <rcjsuen> but JDT is mainly in Europe
[19:31:11] <rcjsuen> France and Zurich?
[19:34:02] <mohbana> ok france is showing alot of the bug reports aswell ... i was just wondering
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[19:39:19] <Zack1403> hey guys i am starting eclipse with -vmargs -Xmx1g and am still getting permgen errors.  I am really not running anything that kills that much memory.  Any ideas?
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[19:40:53] <nitind> ~permgen
[19:40:54] <KOS-MOS> Having permgen problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
[19:41:06] <nitind> Usually it happens with larger installs--lots of plug-ins.
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[19:42:35] <m0`> Hello , when I select my Ant Buildfile, it says Specified buildfile does not contain a javac task
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[19:42:47] <m0`> But in command prompt when I do ant build build.all, it works
[19:43:39] <nitind> m0`: So is there or is there not a javac task in the file?
[19:44:02] <m0`> I have a presetdef which tastkname is named javac
[19:44:24] <m0`> http://rafb.net/p/9cgDJG10.html
[19:44:52] <m0`> running ant from command prompt works, but I want it to work in eclipse
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[19:48:20] <m0`> Therefore my presetdef is used in the bottom for the compile target as javac.ns
[19:48:35] <m0`> I think eclipse doesn't recognize presetdef for java hence a bug?
[19:50:11] <Zack1403> mo: thank you for the heads up
[19:50:27] <Zack1403> m0`:^
[19:50:37] <m0`> for what?
[19:50:50] <m0`> :x
[19:51:05] <Zack1403> haha sorry i gave you nitind's credit!
[19:51:12] <Zack1403> nitind: thanks
[19:51:15] <Zack1403> :)
[19:51:16] <m0`> awesome!
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[19:55:01] <jelly-bean> does anyone know why Eclipse ALT+SHIFT+G or Open Declaration (F3) might not be working for a particular PHP project?
[19:55:35] <jelly-bean> i'm trying to view functions that are defined in the scope of the project but they aren't recognized--its like the project isn't being build/scanned or something
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[19:56:44] <nitind> m0`: Perhaps.
[19:56:51] <m0`> beh it still gives me this error " Specified buildfile does not contain a javac task"
[19:57:07] <nitind> jelly-bean: You're certain that you'r in a perspective where those actions are enabled for that language?
[19:57:51] <jelly-bean> nitind: well, yes because i use the same workspace and other PHP projects are working
[19:57:57] <m0`> I removed the presetdef, and I have the following http://rafb.net/p/nBrOMI49.html
[19:58:10] <m0`> still says does not contain a javac task
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[20:30:50] <N6REJ> got a fast question... I've got a local version of apache on my hd.  I want to add it to my project navigator so I can work on the installed version more easily then installing/unistalling the build each time... but I don't want it being in my svn.. how do I do this?
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[20:42:09] <dominikg> N6REJ, so you want your apache to serve static pages that you develop in a project?
[20:43:25] <N6REJ> dominikg: i think thats right... I have a project and I finally go it "built" right... all the orginization and such are correct... BUT, I'd like to add apache as a folder in the navigator, so that after I install the package the first time, I can just work from inside apache and then copy it back to my project as it develops.
[20:43:53] <N6REJ> like if I need to make some minor syntax fix or something I can just drill down through apache and see if that fixed anything
[20:44:25] <N6REJ> i don't think the pages are static though cause its a dynamic cms
[20:44:41] <N6REJ> well I guess my code is static during that one moment.
[20:45:05] <N6REJ> i'm messing with a registration plugin
[20:47:20] <dominikg> N6REJ, i don't get you... what exactly do you mean wiht apache? the apache httpd or maybe tomcat? in either case adding it as a 'folder' to the navigator won't work... you can use ~wtp to deploy, but that requires additional setup.. if you had a hard time to get your setup running and its local all the way, why don't you just serve the project directories?
[20:47:21] <KOS-MOS> Check out Eclipse's Web Tools Platform - http://www.eclipse.org/wtp/
[20:48:25] <N6REJ> KOS-MOS: i've already got xampp, phpmyadmin, mysql all that built into the eclipse package... do I still need this?
[20:48:39] <N6REJ> I thought I just needed to somehow integrate the apache folder
[20:48:58] <dominikg> N6REJ, KOS-MOS is just a bot that got triggered by my ~wtp
[20:48:59] <KOS-MOS> Check out Eclipse's Web Tools Platform - http://www.eclipse.org/wtp/
[20:49:12] <N6REJ> oh sorry
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[20:50:42] <N6REJ> dominikg: idk why I had such a hard time with eclipse... somehow i was "fighting" it.  Alot had to do with the build script i'm using, but like I said I finally got everything all worked out properly and just am scared if I "link" the apache folder in it will try to upload it to the svn
[20:51:20] <N6REJ> dominikg: other then that the web browser xampp all that eclipse already knows about... i might already have this plug-in installed idk cuase I bought it as a package
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[20:53:57] <dominikg> N6REJ, i got the impression that you're mixing a lot of things up... from what i've read i got the following: you are trying to run a project (something joomla related iirc) on a local webserver using a custom ant script enclosed in the project
[20:55:04] <N6REJ> dominikg: that sounds about right... let me show you more accurately....this is what I bought....http://www.joomlatwork.com/products/components/php_development_studio_pro_v3.0.html
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[20:55:44] <N6REJ> dominikg: in that I put my build script folder configuration, my svn project, etc.... so thats all existing in a workspace that is NOT the apache folder.
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[20:56:20] <N6REJ> dominikg: well I shouldn't say that... only my project files are not in the main eclipse program area.. apache and all that is as it was installed.
[20:57:24] <dominikg> N6REJ, you said you bought that product?
[20:57:51] <dominikg> did you try to get support there? i don't know it and can't tell if they do anything different...
[20:57:52] <N6REJ> dominikg: i konw how to make a new "joomla project" but I don't want that... I just want the joomla files to be accessible form inside my proejct... yeah... it has some customization built in to work more easily with joomla.  I think I overpaid though
[20:58:16] <N6REJ> dominikg: ok, yeah, john is slow on replying... I won't buy from him again.
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[20:59:06] <N6REJ> dominikg: answer me this... if I "Import" a linked file, does it become part of my svn?
[20:59:16] <N6REJ> or just a link in my workspace?
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[20:59:41] <dominikg> no, it does not become part of your svn repository unles you explicitly commit it
[21:00:01] <N6REJ> dominikg: ok!  thats all I needed to know I didn't want it trying to move joomla
[21:00:07] <dominikg> usually it will be copied into your workspace (or linked if you chose to link an external resource)
[21:00:17] <N6REJ> dominikg: i want it linked.
[21:01:11] <rcjsuen> m0`: Does it pick it up for an even simpler build file? Or maybe in a new workspace?
[21:01:47] <m0`> I changed the presetdef to javac and it picked up my 5 targets
[21:01:52] <m0`> Then it tells me to pick just one!
[21:02:00] <m0`> that is ridiculous :/
[21:02:19] <m0`> I need it to use all targets and I have about 5
[21:02:52] <m0`> netbeans makes all this simple, all I have to do there is select the build.xml and it sets up the project with no errors and uses ant to compile successfully
[21:03:07] <m0`> but I enojoy eclipse environment more , cooler
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[21:04:39] <dominikg> N6REJ, you can add links with project -> build path -> link source ... if that does not work, you can try to use native links inside your project... (be sure to back up your existing project in case you break something)
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[21:04:58] <N6REJ> dominikg: ok tyvm
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[21:05:16] <werty37> hi all. is there any plugin to use zend php framework with PDT?
[21:05:30] <nitind> werty37: It's based on PDT.
[21:05:59] <werty37> u mean zend php framework is integrated in PDT?
[21:06:39] <nitind> werty37: No, Zend Studio.  I guess if you want to use their framework, you'll need to check out their product.  Or ask PDT about it.
[21:06:49] <rcjsuen> I believe Zend's thing is built on top of PDT
[21:07:13] <werty37> i have configured zend debugger with PDT
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[21:07:30] <werty37> but i was wondering if there was any way to use zend php framework
[21:07:36] <werty37> with pdt
[21:07:42] <dominikg> m0` if all else fails, you could try to run the external ant from within eclipse via the external tool configuration .. i had my fights with eclipses ant integration aswell (hello custom tasks ;)).
[21:07:57] <nitind> werty37: Don
[21:08:09] <werty37> ?
[21:08:43] <nitind> werty37: Don't know, but is there any reason you've found so that you can't use it?
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[21:09:56] <werty37> well actually i havent tried it yet. just wanted other's opinion - if they had already been working with it
[21:11:24] <werty37> anyways lets see if it works out well . thanks
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[21:14:36] <m0`> dominikg: the messed up thing is that ANT is already setup to work, but eclipse doesn't know about dependencies that ant has
[21:14:41] <m0`> So everything messes up
[21:15:20] <rcjsuen> The Ant you use on your command line
[21:15:24] <rcjsuen> is not the same Ant you use in Eclipse
[21:15:47] <dominikg> m0`, i'm 99% sure you did that already but for that missing 1% ... did you configure the eclipse ant runtime in the preferences to include every dependency you need?
[21:16:20] <m0`> dominikg: how do I do that?
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[21:16:43] <dominikg> window -> preferences -> ant -> runtime
[21:17:19] <m0`> would that be for the whole eclipse?
[21:17:21] <m0`> not per projecT?
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[21:17:52] <m0`> where should I include my build.xml?
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[21:19:33] <dominikg> its not about your build.xml, thats fine inside your project... its about the ant environment eclipse provides... if you added anything to your commandline ant installation... you'll also need to add it there
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[21:21:59] <m0`> I have nothing in command line, all I do in command line is "ant build.all"
[21:22:09] <m0`> ant install
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[21:24:27] <darx> hi, how can I open a file with eclipse via the command line under linux. 'eclipse filename' doesn't work
[21:24:34] <rcjsuen> darx: Not possible.
[21:24:39] <m0`> I Will just configure external ant from ecliopse external tool config
[21:24:39] <darx> dang
[21:25:03] <rcjsuen> darx: You'd have to open Eclipse first.
[21:25:10] <rcjsuen> Then use File > Open...
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[21:26:11] <darx> rcjsuen: Firebug has an option to open pages with external editors. I was trying to set that up
[21:27:03] <darx> m0`: I just started using eclipse, I don't understand what you are saying.
[21:27:59] <rcjsuen> darx: I don't think he's talking to you, don't worry about it.
[21:28:04] <darx> cool
[21:28:13] <rcjsuen> There's a separate conversation going on.
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[21:31:39] <m0`> lol beauty of irc :D
[21:32:08] <m0`> goto any linux dist channel, you will see 30 diff conversations going at once sometimes
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[21:33:01] <Dashkal> Is there a simple (read: in-gui) way to force the java nature onto a project or do I have to fiddle with the .project file directly?
[21:33:24] <rcjsuen> Dashkal: No OOTB support.
[21:33:42] <Dashkal> rcjsuen: Directions to the appropriate channel?
[21:34:05] <rcjsuen> Dashkal: This _is_ the appropriate channel for the question you just asked.
[21:34:23] <rcjsuen> Dashkal: fyi by ootb i meant out-of-the-box
[21:34:32] <Dashkal> oops, my fail.
[21:34:34] <Dashkal> thank you
[21:34:43] <rcjsuen> So to answer the question, yes, you need to type it in yourself.
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[21:36:07] <Dashkal> Wanted to be certain.  I hate fiddling with files like that myself for fear of forgetting to update something related.
[21:39:23] <dominikg> darx, iirc aptana has support for firebug from within eclipse...
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[21:42:09] <rcjsuen> ijuma: o ye, I talked to Steffen, and they said they've had some requests about a user/identity/whatever thing in Mylyn too
[21:42:18] <rcjsuen> ijuma: said they're looking at it for 3.1
[21:43:06] <ijuma> rcjsuen: yes, I know
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[21:43:17] <rcjsuen> well then
[21:43:23] <rcjsuen> ijuma: you should've brought it up when we were talking about it then ;(
[21:43:30] <ijuma> well, I know that there have been requests, and that it was planned, but didn't know about 3.1 :)
[21:43:37] <ijuma> so, thanks, useful to know
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[21:43:57] <ijuma> rcjsuen: well, 3.1 is far away, right?
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[21:44:09] <rcjsuen> ijuma: prettty far
[21:44:16] <rcjsuen> i think their 3.1 is like 3.4.1
[21:44:20] <ijuma> rcjsuen: so, doesn't really change out conversation
[21:44:24] <ijuma> our*
[21:44:34] <ijuma> i am sure they'd enjoy if someone did it for the soc :)
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[22:00:28] <rcjsuen> Ians: Hi Ian, got both your emails, thanks for the help.
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[22:05:02] <ijuma> rcjsuen: lol, http://jroller.com/rss/eu
[22:05:19] <rcjsuen> eugene huh
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[22:05:43] <ijuma> rcjsuen: did you see the latest post?
[22:05:44] <ijuma> my link was incomplete
[22:05:54] <rcjsuen> it was an rss feed
[22:05:56] <rcjsuen> but yeah i see it
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[22:09:06] <jelly-bean> what is it called when Eclipse parses the .php files and shows a summary of the Classes, functions, etc. below each file that can be expanded in the PHP Explorer?
[22:09:27] <rcjsuen> jelly-bean: I think I know what you mean, but not sure what you are asking about.
[22:09:45] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure if really has a name. It's just the logical structure of the file.
[22:09:52] <rcjsuen> You could think of it as an "outline", I guess.
[22:09:54] <rcjsuen> just like the 'Outline' view
[22:09:58] <jelly-bean> right exactly
[22:10:01] <jelly-bean> well its missing :(
[22:10:06] <jelly-bean> and i dont know why
[22:10:23] <jelly-bean> it seems like this one particular project it isn't parsing that ... it works in other projects
[22:10:27] <rcjsuen> jelly-bean: did it work yesterday?
[22:10:29] <rcjsuen> oh, i see
[22:10:42] <rcjsuen> That project is probably missing a ~nature
[22:10:43] <KOS-MOS> Need to assign a nature to a project by hand? http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_manually_assign_a_project_Nature_or_BuildCommand.3F
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[22:12:00] <jelly-bean> wow i think you nailed it
[22:12:21] <jelly-bean> i wonder why that would be missing? the only thing different i did when creating the project was using the CVS browser to right-click > Check Out As...
[22:12:36] <rcjsuen> jelly-bean: well, when you check things out of CVS, Eclipse knows nothing about the project
[22:12:41] <rcjsuen> like just because i have a php file
[22:12:48] <rcjsuen> does that mean i want it treated as a php project?
[22:13:01] <rcjsuen> you can't expect it to scan the whole folder
[22:13:11] <rcjsuen> (wihch theoretically could have thousands of files)
[22:13:14] <rcjsuen> and then run "checks"
[22:13:19] <rcjsuen> to see what should be assigned
[22:13:22] <rcjsuen> if you catch my drift
[22:14:08] <jelly-bean> yep
[22:14:19] <jelly-bean> well thanks you saved me an 'all-niter'
[22:14:26] <rcjsuen> No problem.
[22:14:33] <rcjsuen> I believe there's a
[22:14:38] <rcjsuen> Check Out with New Project Wizard
[22:14:39] <rcjsuen> or something
[22:14:41] <rcjsuen> you could try using that next time
[22:14:53] <rcjsuen> Good luck.
[22:16:44] <jelly-bean> thanks
[22:16:49] <jelly-bean> i'll check it out
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[22:18:43] <thepenguin37> hi i have a java program including may strings how can i create language files for different langs.?
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[22:20:15] <rcjsuen> Sounds like you should google about resource bundles
[22:20:57] <thepenguin37> yes i know but there is a problm
[22:21:24] <thepenguin37> how can i use variables in strings with bundles
[22:21:41] <rcjsuen> This is a {0} and a {1}.
[22:21:48] <rcjsuen> Should be how it's done I believe.
[22:22:09] <zx_> JDT and PDE include externalization wizards
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[22:22:13] <d_a_carver> thepengui37: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/os-i18n/
[22:22:31] <thepenguin37> looking
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[22:25:03] <thepenguin37> rcjsuen: all ok but just you said eclipse plugin didnt create strings like with {0}
[22:25:38] <d_a_carver> thepenguin37: you can do it yourself just call the appropriate java Message constructor.
[22:26:16] <d_a_carver> thepenguin37: there is nothing stopping you from passing the international string with the {0} in it to the approriate java class to do the replacements for you.
[22:27:11] <thepenguin37> hmm i am looking for like this :(
[22:27:13] <nitind> thepenguin37: You use the ICU MessageFormat class taking the externalized string loaded in with the variable placeholders and the values at code execution runtime.
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[22:29:54] <thepenguin37> nitind: this one is looks pretty i will ry thanks
[22:32:01] <rcjsuen> zx_: Oh, I always thought they only interop-ed with NLS.
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[22:35:05] <mohbana> anyone here in charge of TeXlipse?
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[22:35:28] <benny`work> mohbana, just used a for some minor stuff but maybe i can help
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[22:58:50] <n_np> hey I have a great idea
[22:58:52] <n_np> how about
[22:59:08] <n_np> a way that we can use webspaces from ftp or http or any network location?
[22:59:15] <rcjsuen> webspaces?
[22:59:23] <n_np> i mean workspaces
[22:59:23] <n_np> sorreh
[22:59:27] <n_np> drinking some mean ass coffee here. . .
[23:00:27] <n_np> I was considering making a plugin for it that can do that
[23:00:36] <n_np> but then I realized its such a low level thing I might have to fork it
[23:00:41] <n_np> work directly on the source code! :s
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[23:01:04] <rcjsuen> I don't know how bad the lag will be.
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[23:03:18] <oisin> n_np:  start with Eclipse File System : http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/EFS
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[23:05:39] <n_np> hmmmm I see there is a partial implenentation of FTP
[23:05:40] <n_np> I would love to help
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[23:10:22] <oisin> n_np: next steps - get it, fix it, submit a patch ;)
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[23:23:06] <kaje1> Is there a way to make errors show up on the fly in the CDT kind of like they do in the JDT? I have to rebuild the project whenever I want to see what errors there are... I'd prefer it rebuild a file at least every time I save it...
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[23:28:59] <kaje1> Nevermind, I just found a solution in the FAQ's
[23:33:31] <kaje1> In the CDT, Source -> Find References does appear to be working. Anyone know what I need to do to set it up?
[23:34:00] <mescott> I'm having trouble getting the sample custom  ODA template driver plugin working
[23:34:24] <mescott> just getting an error about not being able to find the ODA driver helper
[23:34:43] <mescott> Apr 1, 2008 4:31:39 PM org.eclipse.birt.data.engine.odaconsumer.Driver getDriverHelper
[23:34:44] <mescott> SEVERE: Cannot get ODA data source driver helper.
[23:34:46] <mescott> org.eclipse.datatools.connectivity.oda.consumer.helper.OdaHelperException: Unable to load or instantiate the custom ODA driver class. (foo.impl.Driver) ;
[23:34:47] <mescott> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: foo.impl.Driver
[23:34:49] <mescott> 	at org.eclipse.datatools.connectivity.oda.consumer.helper.OdaDriver.loadDriverInstance(OdaDriver.java:230)
[23:34:50] <mescott> 	at org.eclipse.datatools.connectivity.oda.consumer.helper.OdaDriver.init(OdaDriver.java:177)
[23:34:53] <mescott> 	at org.eclipse.datatools.connectivity.oda.consumer.helper.OdaDriver.<init>(OdaDriver.java:93)
[23:34:54] <mescott> 	at org.eclipse.birt.data.engine.odaconsumer.Driver.getDriverHelper(Driver.java:93)
[23:34:56] <mescott> 	at org.eclipse.birt.data.engine.odaconsumer.DriverManager.getDriverHelper(DriverManager.java:87)
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[23:35:50] <mescott> the class does exist, of course
[23:36:04] <tilmann> kaje1: you probably need to add the necessary paths to the header files
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[23:50:39] <kaje1> thanks tilmann, I think I've figured out where to add it...
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[23:57:34] <mescott> ahhh, looks like my project isn't being built because of missing dependency on QTJava.zip  (what the heck?)
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