[00:00:12] <rcjsuen> ~tell moveax about php
[00:00:12] <KOS-MOS> moveax: Take a look at PDT (http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/) or PHPEclipse (http://www.phpeclipse.de)
[00:00:13] <rcjsuen> I guess we both made the same mistake.
[00:00:13] <benny`work> na na na nana :D
[00:00:13] <moveax> KOS-MOS: I'm currently yum'ing the eclipse-phpeclipse plugin
[00:00:14] <rcjsuen> Still, I wonder if some contribution is screwing it up.
[00:00:14] <rcjsuen> But nah, since the 'Close Project' action should be there and not something contributed by ADT.
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[00:00:15] <rcjsuen> moveax: I wouldn't get Eclipse from the distro personally. But I guess Fedora should be pretty good.
[00:00:15] <iowahc> njbartlett: np
[00:00:15] <rcjsuen> ~tell iowahc about clean
[00:00:15] <KOS-MOS> iowahc: Please try restarting Eclipse with the '-clean' argument. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_have_just_installed_a_plug-in_but_I_do_not_see_any_indication_of_it_in_my_workspace._What_do_I_do.3F
[00:00:17] <moveax> rcjsuen: it does the job nicely, the majority of the time. also, i probably don't/won't need to customise eclipse as much as you do
[00:00:18] <moveax> rcjsuen: i just need an ide for my "simple" php work
[00:00:19] <rcjsuen> moveax: Actually, I don't customize my Eclipse at all ;)
[00:00:40] <rcjsuen> But I do see what you mean :)
[00:01:27] <cmihai> Is there a parameter in the config file or some flag to tell eclipse to use a specified JDK instead of the one in PATH?
[00:01:52] <benny`work> cmihai, eclipse -vm <path>
[00:01:57] <rcjsuen> ~tell cmihai about vm
[00:01:57] <KOS-MOS> cmihai: To learn more about the Eclipse launcher / binary, see - http://www.eclipse.org/swt/launcher.html - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_Launcher - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/misc/launcher.html
[00:01:57] <cmihai> Thanks.
[00:02:09] <rcjsuen> Make sure you pass the path of the binary itself.
[00:02:15] <rcjsuen> Do not pass the path to a folder.
[00:02:22] <cmihai> Oh, that was my issue. Thanks.
[00:02:29] <rcjsuen> no prablemo
[00:02:41] <rcjsuen> ~launcher
[00:02:42] <KOS-MOS> To learn more about the Eclipse launcher / binary, see - http://www.eclipse.org/swt/launcher.html - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_Launcher - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/misc/launcher.html
[00:02:43] <moveax> how Eclipse is lovely.
[00:02:47] <rcjsuen> I guess I should probably change the macro of vm.
[00:02:48] <moveax> exactly what I wanted
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[00:03:52] <rcjsuen> ~set vm To start Eclipse with a specific Java VM, you should start Eclipse with the -vm argument. This should look something like 'eclipse.exe -vm C:\jdk1.5.0.6\bin\java.exe' or './eclipse -vm /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.03/bin/java'. Note that the path of the 'java' executable is being passed and _not_ a folder.
[00:03:53] <KOS-MOS> The keyword "vm" has been updated with the new reply in my database.
[00:03:53] <cmihai> Had a 64 bit JDK installed and a 32 bit Eclipse :-)
[00:03:57] <rcjsuen> ~vm
[00:03:58] <KOS-MOS> To start Eclipse with a specific Java VM, you should start Eclipse with the -vm argument. This should look something like 'eclipse.exe -vm C:\jdk1.5.0.6\bin\java.exe' or './eclipse -vm /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.03/bin/java'. Note that the path of the 'java' executable is being passed and _not_ a folder.
[00:04:00] <rcjsuen> Much better. :)
[00:05:06] <cmihai> Any way to make this default for just one Eclipse binary (something in config?) without having to use some script?
[00:05:22] <rcjsuen> ~eclipse.ini
[00:05:23] <KOS-MOS> Want to set startup flags for eclipse, like -vm, -vmargs, or -consolelog? Edit your eclipse.ini file. - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse.ini - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_run_Eclipse%3F#eclipse.ini
[00:05:39] <rcjsuen> cmihai: Make sure everything is on a different line.
[00:05:44] <rcjsuen> And obviously, -vm should go _before_ -vmargs.
[00:05:56] <cmihai> Ah :-)
[00:06:29] <cmihai> Hm.. didn't work :-)
[00:07:04] <cmihai> org.eclipse.platform
[00:07:04] <cmihai> 256m
[00:07:11] <cmihai> Weird paste. Sorry.
[00:07:28] <rcjsuen> See what I said above.
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[00:08:07] <rcjsuen> Reading it literally should clue you in on what's wrong.
[00:08:14] <eigma> does Eclipse 3.3.1.1 refactoring have a feature for transforming an enum field into a class hierarchy?
[00:08:27] <eigma> *enum type field
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[00:12:57] <tderflinger> hello!
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[00:15:03] <cmihai> rcjsuen, yeah, there were UNIX linebreaks my editor didn't show in the original .ini :-). That did it, thanks.
[00:16:13] <rcjsuen> cmihai: np, and yeah, i know what you mean, seen it at work :)
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[00:16:29] <rcjsuen> they really should have windows line breaks on the windows eclipse.ini :/
[00:16:36] <cmihai> Yeah :P
[00:16:50] <rcjsuen> cmihai: Maybe you could file a bu g:)
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[00:22:36] <cmihai> Well, nothing looks filed under config.ini windows or linebreak. I'll file a bug.
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[00:24:27] <cmihai> Bug 224814 has been added to the database :-).
[00:26:07] <rcjsuen> thx
[00:26:33] <smoog> are there any good "ftp publish" type plugins besides the "no longer active" ones on the main site?
[00:26:44] <rcjsuen> maybe ~tm can help you
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[00:27:50] <smoog> ~tm?
[00:28:20] <njbartlett> KOS-MOS: WAKEY WAKEY
[00:28:32] <zx|cafe> lagged
[00:28:36] <rcjsuen> I tried to query a bug earlier so it got lagged.
[00:28:41] <rcjsuen> so she got lagged
[00:28:44] <KOS-MOS> Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
[00:28:49] <rcjsuen> my god even i'm screwing it up :/
[00:29:10] <rcjsuen> there's been lag since Friday, I wonder why
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[00:30:39] <smoog> ugh
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[00:30:51] <smoog> I decided to search for updates on everything for fun, and it froze on one bad mirror
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[00:35:46] <smoog> is it bad to get an out of memory error lol
[00:38:29] <rcjsuen> That would be a 'yes'.
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[00:45:20] <ijuma> ~memory
[00:45:22] <KOS-MOS> Having memory problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
[00:45:26] <ijuma> smoog: ^
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[00:46:23] <smoog> neat
[00:46:36] <smoog> it was a specific thing that caused it though, not usual
[00:46:51] <smoog> it got the memory error after having trouble contacting a mirror for a really long time
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[00:53:19] <lnxnt> hello
[00:53:27] <rcjsuen> lnxnt: Hello
[00:53:50] <lnxnt> I have a huge problem...every time I mark 3 lines in eclipse editor and press ctrl+c for copy...my cpu runs 100%
[00:53:54] <lnxnt> and doesn't end
[00:54:05] <lnxnt> I restarted
[00:54:10] <lnxnt> I restarted os too
[00:54:20] <lnxnt> I switched and cleaned workspace
[00:54:26] <lnxnt> no change yet
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[00:58:03] <debrac> Hello all
[00:58:11] <debrac> Is there a way to set a library path in eclipse?
[00:58:40] <debrac> The command to run the program is LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./match:./SURF java myJavaStuff
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[01:02:27] <lnxnt> I can't copy any text it is horrible
[01:02:41] <lnxnt> maybe it is the ATF framework...
[01:04:59] <rcjsuen> debrac: change your launch config
[01:05:02] <rcjsuen> in the Environment tab
[01:05:07] <rcjsuen> you can mod/add/whatever your env vars
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[01:05:20] <cmihai> lnxnt, what version of Java are you running? :-)
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[01:06:03] <lnxnt> cmihai: 1.6.0_03 :)
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[01:19:34] <debrac> rcjsuen: Ok but it still gives me a "no surf in path" error
[01:19:37] <debrac> I set it to
[01:19:43] <debrac> Well... do I have to put the = ?
[01:19:52] <rcjsuen> er no
[01:19:53] <rcjsuen> at least
[01:19:54] <rcjsuen> i don't think so
[01:19:58] <rcjsuen> don't really recall the dialog offhand
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[01:30:16] <pist0l-fish> does anyone know of any good eclipse SWT GUI designers? Any ones that don't create a lot of overhead in the code they generate?
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[01:34:36] <paulweb515_> pist0l-fish: they're working on VE again, but I don't know what state it is in yet - http://www.eclipse.org/vep/ ... I think you need to get different builds to pick it up with Europa
[01:34:49] <paulweb515_> pist0l-fish: I've heard good things about Window Builder Pro (but that's commercial)
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[01:41:49] <jharr> pist0l-fish: I've been playing with VE, it's pretty slick. Just make sure you follow the installation instructions on the website
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[01:41:58] <pist0l-fish> thanks for the help guys :)
[01:42:03] <jharr> pist0l-fish: I'm using a beta release or something. Can't remember.
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[01:57:15] <rcjsuen> This is one weird bug.
[01:57:32] <rcjsuen> If I change a pref value and press ok, it gets saved
[01:57:48] <rcjsuen> if i switch to another page, back, then change and press ok, it doesn't get saved, and next time i open it's the default value again
[01:57:50] <rcjsuen> o.O
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[02:00:37] <njbartlett> How the hell does a 2.7Mb Quicktime movie compress down to an 850Kb ZIP file??
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[02:03:58] <pist0l-fish> because there may be a lot of repeated data?
[02:04:32] <njbartlett> pist0l-fish: But video encoding algorithms are supposed to do compression already
[02:04:52] <pist0l-fish> yeap
[02:04:57] <pist0l-fish> maybe quicktime's isn't very good
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[02:05:47] <rcjsuen> This bug is driving me nuts :(
[02:06:00] <pist0l-fish> I just added EMF, GE, and VE to my Eclipse and now I get this message when trying to compile and run a project: "IWAV0120E Launch failed: no java bean found"
[02:06:03] <pist0l-fish> can anyone help?
[02:09:01] <pist0l-fish> .....please?
[02:09:48] <rcjsuen> nm, I realized the problem, i was creating instance scopes elsewhere (on the other page i opened) and removing it, so it's deleting stuff
[02:09:55] <pist0l-fish> oh that's weird. It works now
[02:10:04] <pist0l-fish> ...hurray!
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[02:14:14] <ciri> Hey, I removed a jar from my project (project options -> build path -> libraries -> remove) and it's throwing a NoClassDefFoundError
[02:14:20] <ciri> does anyone know how to solve this?
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[02:16:18] <rcjsuen> ciri: That is what happens when you remove jars.
[02:16:27] <rcjsuen> Maybe you should...add it back.
[02:17:24] <ciri> i'm not using it anymore
[02:17:46] <ciri> did I remove it incorrectly?
[02:18:01] <njbartlett> ciri: The NoClassDefFoundError disagrees with you. I think you ARE using it, you just don't know it.
[02:19:18] <jharr> help
[02:19:36] <jharr> haha
[02:19:43] <jharr> sorry, playing with my irc client
[02:20:37] <jharr> I was trying to get help with the '/foreach channel' command
[02:21:32] <ciri> Hm I solved it by copying every file to a new project. I think it must've been a random glitch?
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[02:28:55] <jharr> is there a good (portable?) plugin framework out there?
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[02:54:07] <smoog> is it possible to change eclipses font size?
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[02:55:58] <AMcBain> How can I change the font size for Eclipse? I just can't find the setting.
[02:56:15] <smoog> ...
[02:56:17] <smoog> lol
[02:56:21] <smoog> <smoog> is it possible to change eclipses font size?
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[02:56:46] <AMcBain> Wow.
[02:57:09] <smoog> hehe
[02:57:48] <AMcBain> When I was on Linux (up until yesterday) the default font size in Eclipse was too large, then I return to Windows to find it a bit too small... :P
[03:01:22] <smoog> keke
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[03:01:30] <smoog> I just wanna make it a little small since i see it on a big screen
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[03:03:10] <AMcBain> Ah well down in our labs we have 4 large widescreen "headache monitors" where they installed the wrong drivers and thus are stuck to resolutions that either suck or suck worse. Some even position the screen so bad it gets cut off. They'll eventually upgrade everything to Vista (sad) but when they do, I hope they get the drivers right. Those screens *could* be useful.
[03:03:27] <smoog> AMcBain: I found it
[03:03:33] <AMcBain> Cool, where?
[03:03:45] <smoog> go in preferences, under appearance > colors and fonts
[03:03:54] <smoog> do basic > text font
[03:03:55] <smoog> and change that
[03:04:09] <AMcBain> Oh okay cool thanks.
[03:04:34] <smoog> np
[03:05:57] <AMcBain> The only thing I don't like is somehow my previous Windows install (before my Linux stint) had a really nice monospace font that everything defaulted too, and now I don't have it, so everything goes to Courior New. :-/ My interim solution is to use Bitstream Vera Sans Mono.
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[03:10:28] <rcjsuen> you could change your gtkrc file I guess
[03:10:29] <rcjsuen> look in the swt faq
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[03:11:38] <jharr> AMcBain: smoog: fyi, you can search in the prefs using the box at the top of the tree. It's handy, especially when you have way as many plugins as I do.
[03:12:01] <jharr> s/way//
[03:12:04] <smoog> jharr: I know, but there wasnt much to search for
[03:12:07] <jharr> ahh
[03:12:10] <smoog> I mean .. the color and appearances thing is there
[03:12:14] <AMcBain> I did, but I didn't think it was nested *inside* the way it was. That's why I missed it before.
[03:12:16] <smoog> but the actual thing to change is inside the box there
[03:12:24] <smoog> yeah exactly ... you have to guess which one it is in there
[03:12:30] <jharr> yeah...
[03:12:42] <AMcBain> Oh well, now I know where it is for the future :)
[03:12:48] <smoog> I just wanted to shrink my font 1 size to get more lines out of it on screen
[03:13:51] <jharr> it's all good, just wanted to make sure you knew ;)
[03:14:24] <AMcBain> Well I found that after I changed the font to Bitstream, I didn't have to increase the font size :)
[03:14:32] <AMcBain> jharr: well thanks anyways :)
[03:14:58] <jharr> Does someone make a collection of extended widgets? One thing I really liked when I worked with wx was the wxAui stuff
[03:15:29] <jharr> The preferences dialog that eclipse and Azureus use are nice.
[03:15:40] <jharr> primarily the ability to filter.
[03:17:25] <jharr> they had one called auiNotebook that allowed you to drag around and resize tabs
[03:17:38] <jharr> even split into split-screens
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[03:23:42] <AMcBain> widgets? Aww. Too bad this isn't JS, then I could insert a shameless plug. Hehe.
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[03:42:20] <exst_mhua> Using 3.4M5, Under the "about eclipse" it will show Eclipse Version: 3.3.0. Is this correct?
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[04:04:19] <rcjsuen> exst_mhua: I think that (bug) has been reported.
[04:05:09] <exst_mhua> rcjsuen, I see, thanks
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[04:06:59] <rcjsuen> exst_mhua: actually, i guess it's different https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=224788
[04:07:09] <rcjsuen> but 3.4M5 is pretty old
[04:07:13] <rcjsuen> it might've been fixed i s'pose
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[04:13:56] <exst_mhua> rcjsuen, as of  now 3.4M5 is still the latest stable build though
[04:14:08] <rcjsuen> exst_mhua: actually, the latest stable build is 3.3.2
[04:14:27] <rcjsuen> exst_mhua: in any case, latest stable build does not magically make it "not old"
[04:14:30] <rcjsuen> 3.4m5 was about six weeks ago or so
[04:14:51] <exst_mhua> I guess so
[04:15:09] <rcjsuen> feel free to file a bug tho
[04:15:17] <rcjsuen> i could be wrong
[04:16:48] <d_a_carver> nitind: bug 224819 - I addressed the XSL Tooling issue where the xml editor validation was reporting a false error as reported in bug 210413.   having the ability to adhoc contribute grammars for content assistance though would still be nice.
[04:18:49] <nitind> d_a_carver: True, but it won't be in this release.  We're at feature freeze and doing it correctly should also include UI so the end-user could do it.
[04:18:54] <ciri> ~jnlp
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[04:19:01] <ciri> woops wrong window :)
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[04:20:09] <xerophyt1> is there any bash scripting plugin for bash ?
[04:20:47] <d_a_carver> nitind: agreed...glad I found my work around for xsl tooling.
[04:23:44] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: so he got C# debugging going?
[04:23:58] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: Well, something happens anyway ;)
[04:25:01] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: as long as it doesn't fry the computer.  Any plans for Emonic on 3.4?
[04:25:19] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: We're supposed to release in "Spring", whatever that means.
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[04:25:38] <rcjsuen> Everyone's been on slow gears recently though.
[04:25:56] <nitind> Is it Eclipse-based or other?
[04:26:02] <rcjsuen> Of course, a download would be better
[04:26:03] <rcjsuen> i mean
[04:26:06] <rcjsuen> walking through 27 steps
[04:26:08] <rcjsuen> isn't very fun
[04:26:30] <rcjsuen> nitind: It's just some plug-ins.
[04:26:49] <nitind> rcjsuen: Then why not release at Ganymede?
[04:27:01] <rcjsuen> nitind: Because the team lead is obsessed with 3.2.
[04:27:25] <rcjsuen> And seems to refuse to "move on". We're not even at 1.0, I don't see what's the big deal.
[04:27:41] <rcjsuen> It's not like we have a lot of users (I don't think any third-party has filed bugs since I joined the team in July).
[04:28:21] <rcjsuen> If you mean, release in June, sure, we could do that I guess.
[04:29:24] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: you could try and bring it into 3.4 to see where the breakage would occur.  You'll know if you use something in 3.4 as soon as he complains that it doesn't work. :)
[04:30:12] <rcjsuen> I found a 3.2 / 3.3 breakage once because of the new FileStoreEditorInput thing.
[04:30:29] <rcjsuen> That bug was annoying (to ensure it worked on both versions).
[04:30:37] <rcjsuen> I think I was working on that bug in class >_>
[04:30:47] <d_a_carver> I'd go to 3.3/3.4 just to get paul's ui menu functionality.
[04:30:56] <rcjsuen> That's what I said, but
[04:32:00] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: switching over is a time consuming task and not fun, but going to handlers the code pretty much is the same once you get the approriate class from the HandlerUtil class.
[04:32:03] <rcjsuen> "Well, menus and commands are easier to do now and doesn't seem to require as much boilerplate code."
[04:32:12] <rcjsuen> "I think, this is not the point. If it is to write a view lines of code less against dropping one platform: The support of the platform wins - sorry."
[04:32:51] <nitind> Plus it really hamstrings our ability to make actions inheritable by content type.
[04:33:18] <d_a_carver> nitind: staying with or going to the new ui?
[04:34:08] <nitind> d_a_carver: I'm leaving it up to Amy to decide, but the messages that appear in the log when we do things the old way are kind of annoying.
[04:34:51] <d_a_carver> nitind: yeah..you do have more flexibilty with the handlers and definitions in the new ui....it works fairly well, and the patch I provided is in the latest code for the xml and sse editors.
[04:35:30] <nitind> d_a_carver: Sure, but don't I have to recontribute any handlers when I'm using a different editor, or otherwise find a way to activate the same context?
[04:35:59] <nitind> d_a_carver: Providing identical handlers for XML, JSP, DTD, CSS, and HTML is somewhat of a chore.
[04:36:10] <d_a_carver> nitind: nope, XSL gets the same handlers as the xml editor...because it falls under the xml content type and is using the xml editor.
[04:36:41] <nitind> d_a_carver: ok, and if you wanted to build a different multi-page XSL editor...?
[04:37:20] <d_a_carver> nitind: you can get the same items or you can have your editor contribute a specific context when it activates and have the handles specific to it look for that in or use the sse editor.
[04:38:21] <d_a_carver> nitind: so if the xml editor needs specific functionality on top of that provided by xsd, it could have it's own context type for the xml editor and the handlers/commands look for that to signal when they get activated.
[04:38:28] <nitind> d_a_carver: ok, but there's no inherent linkage between editing JSPs and XML, other than us wanting to reuse a log of those contributions.  So they might have to be recontributed to their own contexts.  And that's a lot of plugin.xml to write.
[04:38:38] <nitind> s/a log/a lot
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[04:38:56] <d_a_carver> nitind: it's not as bad as you think...you can generalize a lot of it.
[04:39:40] <d_a_carver> nitind: the advantage to me outweighs the pain from an adopters standpoint...if I wanted to do anything additional to the xml editor before I had to go in and change or add stuff to the internal code.
[04:40:00] <d_a_carver> nitind: an adopter can now go through and write their own plugin to contribute to the existing menus.
[04:40:04] <nitind> d_a_carver: Our action contributors weren't public API?
[04:41:11] <d_a_carver> nitind: don't think so.  Also if they were I would have had to extend, override, etc...just messy.   I prefer keeping allowing the plugin to contribute through extension points instead of writing api code for menus.
[04:43:07] <d_a_carver> nitind: it's just a different way of thinking about the ui is all.
[04:44:02] <d_a_carver> plus it gets all those necessary id's out in the open where adopters need them instead of buried in api code.
[04:47:17] <smoog> why is it that pdt seems to get REALLY SLOW if I type inside heredocs?
[04:47:29] <smoog> anywhere else, it's fine ... but when im changing a heredoc it gets slow as hell
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[04:50:13] <d_a_carver> smoog: probably sending lots of model synchs unnecessarly I would guess.
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[04:51:31] <d_a_carver> nintd: all of the classes for the MultiPage and Source editors in XML.UI are internal classes. makes it difficult as it stands now to extend the xml editor without the new ui if you want to avoid using internal classes.
[04:52:36] <nitind> d_a_carver: ok, but then how should we pick up your new contexts with the same class?
[04:53:55] <d_a_carver> nitind: the handler's is activated by the editor content, SSE currently sets a context when it starts.   So all of the commands in xml.ui look for either the xml editor context or the sse context, and if an editor starts up like XSD, it will get those commands automaticly.
[04:54:41] <d_a_carver> XSL gets all of the commands contributed by the xml editor...if you need to override a command you can provide your own handler for an existing command otherwise just use the one that is provided by default.
[04:55:36] <d_a_carver> Amy is talking about adding a similar item for the XML source editor like the SSE editor does for providing a context when it is activated that can be check specifically.
[05:00:25] <d_a_carver> nitind: if you take a look at the plugin.xml in the sse.ui you'll see a handler defintion that looks for the activeContext = org.eclipse.wst.sse.ui.structuredTextEditorScope
[05:01:43] <d_a_carver> you can set something similiar to tie items to a specific editor if you want, it just has to active it's Context and the command/handlers just need to check it to see if they need to activate on that context.
[05:05:18] <smoog> is it possible to change the font size and/or remove the icons on the tabs in eclipse? (so you can fit more icons on the screen without scrolling them)
[05:07:21] <rcjsuen> You mean in the toolbar?
[05:08:05] <smoog> uh under the toolbar
[05:08:06] <d_a_carver> smoog: you might want to check the stuff under General->Appearance in the preference page.
[05:08:07] <smoog> the tabs
[05:08:16] <smoog> I did, I didnt see that particular option
[05:08:33] <rcjsuen> didn't know you could remove those icons
[05:08:41] <rcjsuen> i don't really know what you mean by "scrolling" though
[05:08:54] <rcjsuen> unless you don't really mean scroll like a mousewheel
[05:08:57] <smoog> when you have a lot of files open, and it shows an arrow at the edge
[05:09:06] <smoog> so that you have to scroll through to see them all, or use the dropdown
[05:09:15] <rcjsuen> okay, so not like a scrollbar, right
[05:09:36] <d_a_carver> smoog if you have multi montiors you could always detach the editor and move it to it's own screen to get more space.
[05:09:42] <rcjsuen> you could consider using Ctrl+E
[05:09:50] <smoog> yeah but I dont wanna do that d_a
[05:09:54] <smoog> what's ctrl-e
[05:10:03] <rcjsuen> See for yourself.
[05:10:06] <smoog> I use one monitor for other stuff like irc, aim, etc
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[05:17:55] <d_a_carver> okay calling it a night...night.
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[06:12:26] <nmatrix9> why isn't eclipse server monitor synchronized with the actual application server???
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[06:30:04] <aditsu> hi, how can I prevent eclipse from crashing on jdk 1.6.0_05? it always dies when it starts
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[06:34:26] <nitind> aditsu: Have you made certain that it's starting with jdk 1.6.0_05?
[06:35:59] <aditsu> nitind: it worked fine on 1.6.0_03; haven't tried _04
[06:36:35] <aditsu> nitind: I also found http://blog.gleamynode.net/2008/03/workarounds-for-eclipse-crash-with-jdk.html but his second workaround doesn't work for me
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[06:47:20] <aditsu> oh well, back to 1.5 then :(
[06:48:55] <Zack1403> hey guys i am getting a java heap space error every time i try to startup a tomcat server.  it was just working and now not.  Any ideas?
[06:52:14] <Zack1403> ive changed my java_opts and my eclipse java jre parameters to up my heap siize with no luck
[06:53:23] <Zack1403> plus tried adding "-vmargs -Xms512m -Xmx1g" when running eclipse binary
[06:54:05] <aditsu> Zack1403: what does eclipse have to do with tomcat?!
[06:55:34] <Zack1403> aditsu: haha sorry, im running the tomcat through eclipse. the "run on server" stuff
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[06:55:59] <Zack1403> probably should have mentioned that :)
[06:56:33] <Zack1403> but tomcat starts up normally any other way
[06:56:49] <Zack1403> narrowed it down to an eclipse web tools issue
[06:56:57] <aditsu> Zack1403: well, I don't know how it does it, but I'm pretty sure it must launch a separate jvm for tomcat, in which case all the settings for the eclipse jvm are irrelevant
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[06:59:35] <Zack1403> ahh but then shouldnt i get the same error with a manual tomcat launch?
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[07:00:08] <aditsu> I don't know, depends how it launches tomcat
[07:00:39] <aditsu> gtg
[07:00:48] <Zack1403> oh alright thanks anyways
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[07:14:44] <aditsu> is there a way to specify a JRE_CONTAINER in a project's classpath, by giving only the major version number (e.g. java 5 or java 6), not the complete version?
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[07:29:47] <mrglinux> hi i have eclipse binary and i click on execute file to run ... how can i set eclipse when i click a php file open in eclipse??
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[07:33:01] <moveax> down to your desktop manager to open the file with eclipse and handle file-type associations/mapping
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[08:45:50] <xerophyt1> does anybody use eclipse 3.3 on the mac leopard
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[08:52:48] <njbartlett> xerophyt1: yes
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[09:11:39] <xerophyt1> njbartlett: do you have xdebug installed for php?
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[09:16:12] <njbartlett> xerophyt1: sorry no, i don't do php
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[09:21:45] <xerophyt1> njbartlett: do you use it for java ? .. i need for php, perl and python. .. i am scripting guy
[09:23:07] <njbartlett> xerophyt1: Yeah that's right. I don't use any of those languages.
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[10:05:14] <duryodhan21> hey, I am using Eclipse CDT on Linux . I just had a small question ... how do I find out what exact command eclipse uses when I click on run ? I can see the command it uses for compiling in the console but now what command it uses for execution....
[10:05:31] <duryodhan21> cos in my run dialog I have a number of settings like env variables etc. etc.
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[10:07:18] <duryodhan21> and setting the env variable in BASH doesn't seem to work that well ... the stupid stderr is not getting redirected ... :(
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[10:47:31] <chris_hat_irc> Is it possible to make a Databinding on a tree in eclipse SWT?
[10:47:46] <chris_hat_irc> I always get the error: Error creating the view. Widget [org.eclipse.swt.widgets.Tree] is not supported.
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[10:55:58] <misreckoning> Any solution for java OutOfMemory exception (Sun JRE 1.6)
[10:58:07] <jink> Get more mem (tm).
[10:58:15] <misreckoning> 1 GB not enough?
[10:58:27] <jink> Apparently not, for what you're doing.
[10:58:32] <jink> Unless you're doing it wrong. :D
[10:58:43] <misreckoning> well it is eclipse bugging actually
[10:59:03] <misreckoning> something regarding WTP
[10:59:19] <misreckoning> leaking too much freakin' memory
[11:01:58] <pschriner> misreckoning: how much memory to you asign as maximum in your eclipse.ini?
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[11:02:11] <misreckoning> 512
[11:02:22] <ijuma> ~memory
[11:02:22] <KOS-MOS> Having memory problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
[11:02:25] <ijuma> misreckoning: ^
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[11:02:33] <misreckoning> ok thanks
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[11:05:57] <misreckoning> looks like the first link is working...
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[11:33:01] <spuz> does anyone know where I can find the source code for the WST project?
[11:35:45] <benny`work> spuz, dev.eclipse.org
[11:42:10] <spuz> benny`work: hmm, I can't seem to find it anywhere. The source I'm looking for is for org.eclipse.wst.common.componentcore.internal.resources.VirtualComponent.java but I have no idea where to look
[11:44:21] <spuz> google doesn't seem to have indexed the source tree
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[11:49:52] <pschriner> spuz: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/?root=WebTools_Project
[11:50:19] <spuz> pschriner: yes, I found that page, but I can't see where that source would be located
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[11:55:48] <pschriner> spuz: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/common/plugins/org.eclipse.wst.common.modulecore/modulecore-src/org/eclipse/wst/common/componentcore/internal/resources/VirtualComponent.java?root=WebTools_Project&view=log via http://www.sagewire.org/webtools-eclipse/Source-code-orgeclipsewstcommoncomponentcore-346750.aspx :-) yes google is a big help
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[11:57:40] <pschriner> just why is search not enabled if some files are hidden this way "for legacy reasons"
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[12:01:57] <spuz> pschriner: thanks, still have no idea why Eclipse can't set this project property without blowing up
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[12:34:27] <Eaglecoth> hello
[12:35:10] <Eaglecoth> Is eclipse suitable for developing c , or is it just made for Java?
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[12:36:49] <tilmann> Eaglecoth: it is suited perfectly to C/C++ development
[12:37:00] <Eaglecoth> yes it does!  I just found a howto
[12:37:01] <tilmann> Eaglecoth: check out CDT
[12:37:13] <Eaglecoth> cool cool, I'm looking at it now
[12:37:25] <Eaglecoth> I love eclipse, I am so lasy and I always make typos =)
[12:37:35] <Eaglecoth> what language is eclipse itself made of ?
[12:37:54] <tilmann> Java mostly
[12:38:19] <tilmann> though there attempts to use other JVM-hosted languages
[12:38:26] <tilmann> +are
[12:39:26] <Eaglecoth> okok
[12:39:35] <Eaglecoth> cool cool
[12:39:45] <Eaglecoth> you're part of the developer team yourself?
[12:39:58] <duryodhan21> hey how can I find which command eclipse actually runs when I do ctrl+f11 ?
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[12:40:30] <tilmann> Eaglecoth: no, however I was working on an Eclipse plugin for quite some time (codecover.org)
[12:40:56] <tilmann> brb
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[13:35:21] <kovan> is there a way to make eclipse automatically highlight all the matches of the word under the cursor?
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[14:44:48] <rcjsuen> kovan: Not sure, JDT does it for "syntax" stuff.
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[14:53:35] <cbosdonnat> Hi all
[14:53:43] <rcjsuen> cbosdonnat: Hi
[14:54:10] <paulweb515> hi cbosdonnat
[14:54:36] <cbosdonnat> rcjsuen, paulweb515: hi
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[15:24:17] <Si-Coder> Hi. How can I install jdt plugin ?
[15:24:49] <rcjsuen> I think you need to use the Eclipse Projects update site
[15:25:06] <rcjsuen> Although if you were messing with webtools yesterday (I think you were), you probably already have jdt
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[15:25:50] <Si-Coder> for spring framework plugin I want only this jdt ( I try eclipse projects update site)
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[15:29:07] <Si-Coder> jdt isn't in the europa discovery site and in the Eclipse Projects update site :-/
[15:29:59] <rcjsuen> You mean they're not in either?
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[15:30:20] <Si-Coder> I've clicked select required and eclipse have selected some plugins from europa discovery site but it still waring me about jdt
[15:30:50] <Si-Coder>  Spring IDE Dependencies (only for Eclipse 3.2.x) (2.0.4.v200803111444) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.jdt (3.2.0)", or equivalent.
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[15:31:02] <rcjsuen> Maybe it only wants 3.2.x.
[15:31:08] <rcjsuen> You have Eclipse 3.3.x.
[15:31:37] <Si-Coder> yes but I can't click "finish"
[15:31:48] <rcjsuen> er
[15:31:53] <Si-Coder> becouse of this error
[15:31:58] <rcjsuen> Well, if it wants 3.2 and you have 3.3, it's obviously not going to let you proceed.
[15:32:41] <Si-Coder> heh ok
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[15:32:54] <Si-Coder> I'm going to download 3.2.x
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[15:32:58] <rcjsuen> Help > About Eclipse SDK > Plug-in Details
[15:33:00] <rcjsuen> whoops
[15:33:09] <rcjsuen> oh well
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[15:47:13] <njbartlett> Hi Oisin
[15:47:22] <oisin> njbartlett: hi!
[15:47:25] <rcjsuen> hi
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[15:52:29] <sledgeas> hello
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[15:53:38] <sledgeas> why does eclipse deform my nice string concatenation indentation?
[15:53:38] <sledgeas>         out.println("<div class='title'\n" +
[15:53:38] <sledgeas>                 "text here \n" +
[15:53:38] <sledgeas>         "</div>\n");
[15:53:38] <sledgeas> i'd like the "</div part to align together with "text here
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[15:55:14] <rcjsuen> sledgeas: Ctrl+Shift+F?
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[15:57:11] <sledgeas> ? it happens after i run Ctrl+I, but i don't like such indentation
[15:57:16] <sledgeas> rcjsuen: ^
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[15:57:34] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[15:57:38] <rcjsuen> I never use Ctrl+I.
[15:58:39] <sledgeas> rcjsuen: nothing to do with indentations happened when I have Ctrl+Shift+F1-12
[15:59:05] <ilm> hi, i want to prevent eclipse from copying the .svn directories  to the output folder. after doing an extensive googling i found several solutions for which i find this one ideal:
[15:59:33] <ilm> in preferences Java->Compiler->Building->Filtered Resources=.svn/ -> but it just doesnt work
[15:59:48] <ilm> any idea what i do wrong here ? i can't use subclipse to filter resources btw
[16:00:03] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+Shift+F, just Ctrl+Shift+F
[16:00:08] <rcjsuen> sledgeas: I'm not talking about the F# keys.
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[16:00:42] <sledgeas> yea, first i tried the `F' key,too
[16:00:43] <ilm> using eclipse 3.3.1 btw
[16:01:18] <rcjsuen> Although, tbh, Ctrl+Shift+F probably won't do what you want necessarily if you have some specific indentation needs.
[16:01:47] <sledgeas> yes, you're right
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[16:02:16] <sledgeas> i need to change how strings are indented with Ctrl+I, caus the code was of course written by not me :)
[16:02:29] <sledgeas> and is horribly [un]indented
[16:03:09] <sledgeas> and i could not find the possibilities of how the strings could be indented in preferences->Jave->Code Style->Formatter :(
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[16:08:08] <smoog> ayone know a way to remove the aptana message center widget from the ui?
[16:12:13] <pnehrer> zx, what is the most recent "live" pde build branch other than head?
[16:12:35] <pnehrer> I mean is anyone checking anything into R3_3_maintenance or R3_3_1_maintenance?
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[16:22:53] <Sal> ciao
[16:23:17] <Sal> is there a way to exclude dot starting files from the file explorer?
[16:23:37] <rcjsuen> you mean the Navigator?
[16:24:30] <rcjsuen> you can click the Navigator's down arrow (on its top right corner) and set a filter i think
[16:24:39] <Sal> oh, yes .. thanks
[16:24:55] <Sal> ah, i found the way to adjust that help problem i had yesterday
[16:25:11] <Sal> you can decide where to display help pages from the preference -> help
[16:25:12] <zx> pnehrer: I think we haven't tagged 3.3.2 yet
[16:25:38] <zx> pnehrer: but I'd look for the 3.4M5 version if you need the latest one... some people like to build off the i-builds too
[16:26:41] <pnehrer> yeah I guess that makes sense, thanks
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[16:37:15] <Sal> hey, is jseclipse good?
[16:37:23] <Sal> anyone here uses it?
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[16:38:58] <benny`work> Sal, we use it alot and didn't came across major problems
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[16:40:33] <Sal> does it have a debugger?
[16:40:57] <st3-f> hi everyone.
[16:43:18] <ilon_> where does eclipse log its output from apache tomcat when i have selected "use tomcat directory, take control over tomcat installation" or what the option is called
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[16:44:46] <rcjsuen> st3-f: hi
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[16:49:57] <ilon_> where can i find the accesslog for tomcat when i let eclipse take control of the tomcat installation?
[16:50:42] <zx> ilon_: I'm not sure, but I think the webtools newsgroup would be a good place to ask the question or at least search for an answer
[16:51:03] <ilon_> zx: will have a look, thanks :)
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[17:29:08] <ilon_> im having problems with eclipse overwriting my tomcat config every time i change it, where do i manipulate the log for tomcat thru eclipse?
[17:30:26] <ilon_> ok, found it
[17:30:30] <ilon_> damn annoying it is :P
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[17:35:38] <ivar> Hi guys! My Eclipsee has stopped finding the java source for my project :( I try to use CTRL-SPACE for auto-import of missing classes but it (without even trying it feels like) immediatly displays "No Default Proposals"
[17:35:53] <ivar> Any ideas on what can have happend?
[17:36:47] <CodeNinja> ivar, what build are you using, some of the builds from last week had problems with source lookup
[17:37:15] <ivar> I downloaded my eclipse last week, this sounds like it could be it
[17:37:19] <ivar> let me check which version
[17:37:33] <ivar> build id: M20080221-1800
[17:37:39] <ivar> v 3.3.2
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[17:38:09] <CodeNinja> oh, 3.3.2 builds, not the problem I'm talking about then
[17:38:34] <ivar> doh
[17:38:39] <ivar> I can't figure out what it could be :/
[17:38:57] <ivar> I've re-added the source on the java build path
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[17:43:25] <ivar> If I write "String ivar=new String(); ivar." then I don't get method suggestions... something must be majorly wrong
[17:44:25] <ijuma> ivar: agreed ;)
[17:45:00] <ivar> extremly frustrating, you work with the tool every day for 2 years, but still feel totally lost when these kinds of problems occur
[17:46:10] <st3-f> i am trying to build a SOA client with eclipse and I am looking for a free wsdl / service, does anybody know one? i want to show this to other students, writing my own service would probably work but i think it would be nicer to have a public service to show. maybe someone can help me!?
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[17:47:09] <oisin> st3-f: http://soap.amazon.com/schemas2/AmazonWebServices.wsdl
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[17:49:04] <st3-f> oisin: thx. will look into it. do you know if I need a special token for it to use it?
[17:49:46] <oisin> st3-f: yes, I think you do need to register with them and get a token that limits access to a couple of hundred requests a day or so
[17:50:04] <ijuma> ivar: look in the content assist preference
[17:50:12] <ijuma> ivar: specifically the "Advanced" node
[17:50:21] <st3-f> oisin: OK, thanks
[17:55:26] <nitind> ivar: Also, double-check that the JRE library is still on your build path.
[17:55:45] <ivar> nitind, if the JRE would be missing, would all other source lookup fail as well?
[17:56:04] <nitind> ivar: Just the ones that are in the JRE.
[17:56:21] <ivar> you know.. it's weird, cause it's as if it finds the source, cause there are no "lookup" errors when I enter the import statement and declare a variable.. but when I try to use the variable
[17:58:41] <ivar> hey! ijuma, thanks! seems like something had reset the content assist... when I looked in advanced there was almost nothing checked
[17:58:51] <ijuma> ivar: :)
[17:58:54] <ivar> silly, I didn't know that preferencepane existed :D
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[18:10:58] <st3-f> oisin: i used a different one, here:  http://ws.strikeiron.com/zipinfo3?WSDL    .... now i am having the problem: "No user identifier provided", when I try to use the sample jsps eclipse created.
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[18:11:26] <st3-f> maybe i am too dumb, but i can't find where i can give 'it'  a user name or such.
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[18:22:08] <oisin> st3-f: I see there is a concept of a RegisteredUser and UnregisteredUser in the schema
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[18:23:20] <Zack1403> hey all,
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[18:24:18] <oisin> st3-f: you will need to find the method that is being called and check the schema for the input soap message
[18:24:44] <oisin> st3-f: in this schema there is most likely a piece which indicates where this user information should be
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[18:25:02] <Zack1403> i am having an issue where whenever i try to run an app on my tomcat server (through eclipse), i get a heap space error.  I have tried adding more mem to my default VM arguments with no luck (-Xms256m -Xmx1g).  any ideas?
[18:25:13] <st3-f> oisin: i did a search in eclipse and couldn't find anything fitting to license-info etc.
[18:26:02] <oisin> st3-f: do you know what method is being invoked by the client?
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[18:26:32] <st3-f> oisin: for the username? no. can't find it.
[18:27:02] <st3-f> oisin: I will keep looking though, shouldn't be too hard to find I guess. Don't want to bother you with beginner questions
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[18:27:54] <oisin> st3-f:  np - you see the user identifier could be something that is required by strikeiron, who host the service, or by the actual service itself, where it is an 'artificial' username that is meant to represent a sample person
[18:28:07] <oisin> st3-f: that's the first thing to discover...
[18:29:14] <st3-f> oisin: that method should be somewhere in the project that eclipse created, right?
[18:30:57] <oisin> st3-f: the method lives on the server, but there should be some thing in the client-side code which is calling the method. It's difficult from a distance here - you mentioned jsps previously, perhaps the jsp you are visiting has the information
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[18:33:08] <oisin> st3-f: I must go offline now, I'm afraid, best of luck with the debugging....
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[18:35:25] <smoog> anyone else notice/have a fix for this - with PDT, if I type anywhere else, it's fairly quick .. but if I type in a heredoc it's slow as hell
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[18:49:40] <aib42> Hi, I have multiple CDT projects that share sources. Multiple build configurations (server build excludes "client" dir and v.v.) is bugged - now I'm trying to create a non-project common "folder" and putting client/server/shared sources under that, but I can't create a folder on its own. What do you suggest?
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[18:51:51] <Zack1403> hey sorry everyone sorry i got disconnected, did i get a response from before?
[18:52:39] <joachimm> Hello, I want to extend the java syntax so that a certain method is marked (IMarker) if it is given the wrong string as input, is there an extension point I can use?
[18:54:54] <ijuma> Zack1403: you need to change the server settings
[18:55:10] <Zack1403> ijuma: through catalina_opts?
[18:55:19] <Zack1403> oh oh server settings in eclipse
[18:55:28] <ijuma> sorry
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[18:55:50] <ijuma> Zack1403: did you add it to the VM args of the launch config?
[18:56:04] <Zack1403> ijuma: yes thats the first thing i tried
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[18:56:25] <ijuma> Zack1403: and you're sure it's not a permgen error?
[18:56:26] <Zack1403> i then added -Xms256m -Xmx1g as parameters to the eclipse binary
[18:56:28] <ijuma> (you mentioned heap)
[18:56:31] <dmead> has anyone had any luck getting the cdt to do code folding?
[18:56:43] <dmead> i can't seem to find docs on how to deal with it
[18:56:43] <paulweb515> joachimm: you might have to add your own builder that runs after the java builder
[18:56:50] <ijuma> Zack1403: the eclipse binary is not relevant because tomcat is launched under a different VM
[18:56:51] <dmead> and the prefernces window doesn't turn it on
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[18:57:11] <Zack1403> ijuma: yea its giving me a heap space error.  one sec ill post the stack trace
[18:58:11] <Zack1403> ijuma: http://pastebin.com/m6db29a56
[18:58:22] <joachimm> paulweb515: thanks.
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[18:59:40] <paulweb515> joachimm: once you get an IMarker there, you can provide your own quickFixes easily using  jdt extension points
[19:00:29] <aib42> Is there a way to get some kind of hierachy in the Project Explorer pane? I'd really like to have an folder that contains two projects, and possibly more stuff. I want the filesystem structure to mirror this, as I have two projects that share code.
[19:01:29] <joachimm> paulweb515: I am mostly interrested in the squiggly lines underlining errors though, I have not implemented quickfixes yet.
[19:01:52] <ijuma> Zack1403: it doesn't look to me like you changes the Xmx in the right place. Where did you do it?
[19:02:25] <paulweb515> aib42: traditionally, a top level workspace dir is a project and I don't think they can contain other projects (although that changes occasionally)
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[19:03:01] <paulweb515> aib42: A common practice is to either 1) refactor common code into a library project or 2) have it exist in one and use linked resources to see it in the other
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[19:03:59] <Zack1403> perferences -> java -> installed jres  -> 1.6 edit -> default VM arguments: -Xms256m -Xmx1g
[19:04:18] <Zack1403> ^for ijuma
[19:04:49] <ijuma> Zack1403: Ok, that's not really what I was talking about, I was talking about the server page, there's a link to change the launch configuration
[19:04:51] <aib42> paulweb515: That first thing makes sense. Is there an easy way to open/switch workspaces, as I would with different projects in the same namespace?
[19:05:03] <rcjsuen> aib42: File > Switch Workspace
[19:05:04] <ijuma> Zack1403: although one wonders why those settings are not applied there too
[19:05:57] <paulweb515> aib42: once you have them set up, there's File>Switch Workspaces to easily flop between them ... I don't do it often
[19:06:07] <aib42> aha.
[19:06:12] <aib42> sorry, I'm still new to eclipse.
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[19:06:35] <rcjsuen> It depends on your workflow I guess. I have multiple workspaces, some people only have one. *shrugs*
[19:06:45] <aib42> trying to find out how these things are done... I don't want to mention the name, but a workspace is like a VS solution then?
[19:07:11] <rcjsuen> Can't you have two VS solutions open at a time in VS?
[19:07:12] <aib42> only one was going well for me until I needed this arrangement of projects that share code
[19:07:25] <aib42> rcjsuen: only with multiple instances of VS running
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[19:07:29] <Zack1403> ijuma: oh i see i didnt modify server runtime.  do i add to the vm arguments -Xms256m -Xmx1g?
[19:07:33] <rcjsuen> Ah, I thought you could have two, I guess not.
[19:07:46] <rcjsuen> As you can tell, I've never really used VS ;)
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[19:08:12] <aib42> I envy you.
[19:08:22] <rcjsuen> aib42: Well, I only write Java code, so
[19:08:23] <ijuma> Zack1403: it's up to you :) -Xms is not necessary, and the -Xmx is what you want as the max, it depends on how much memory you have and how big your web app is
[19:08:54] <aib42> The CDT was what made me do the switch... for personal projects, anyway
[19:09:29] <aib42> if only it could run gdb on Win32 too...
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[19:10:10] <zx|cafe> not sure what Wascana offers you (http://wascana.sourceforge.net/)
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[19:12:07] <aib42> What's "Copy Settings->Working Sets" in the Workspace Launcher (change Workspaces) dialogue
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[19:17:49] <paulweb515> aib42: AFAIK it's a way to transfer some preferences from an existing workspace to a new one when creating the new one from the launcher
[19:18:11] <aib42> certainly looks like it, but I wonder what...
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[19:23:40] <aib42> zx|cafe: Wascana looks like it's a bundled installer for what I already have on my system (and probably more). I'll look into it, thanks.
[19:24:10] <zx|cafe> aib42: it's run by the CDT lead so I'm sure it does all the hard work of setting the CDT up to work on windows
[19:25:50] <aib42> Then it's highly possible that the same bug regarding running gdb on Win32 exists there as well. (Sorry for not expanding on this earlier, but it's that gdb doesn't run on paths with a space in them)
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[19:26:35] <aib42> With that said, how hard would it be to fix something like that? I'm a total newbie to Eclipse -- I guess I'd have to get CDT and eclipse-dev sources
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[19:31:37] <aib42> ok, I've found what "Copy Working Sets" does... it creates a broken workspace :/
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[19:41:28] <my007ms> hello i am very new in Eclipse i need use it to develop C program
[19:41:37] <my007ms> where is the place i can start reading from
[19:42:08] <aib42> I've found that CDT is pretty straightforward to install and use. I'd welcome some references too, though :)
[19:42:45] <my007ms> heheh
[19:43:05] <my007ms> hey aib42
[19:43:17] <my007ms> u was in C channel :)
[19:43:24] <my007ms> yes i install it now
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[19:45:23] <aib42> yup :)
[19:45:28] <aib42> having CDT problems of my own
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[19:47:11] <dinoh84> Hi i have a jar file referenced as an external library in my eclipse project. However,  I still cannot reference any classes in it.  How do i properly add jar file resources to a project?
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[19:50:07] <dinoh84> have fun at class and i'll see you in a bit
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[19:51:40] <Rayaken> hi, i got a little problem. i use a formeditor with one formpage and one AbstractDecoratedTextEditor. now the input position, etc is not showing in the statusline. any ideas?
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[19:56:22] <pombreda> [ANN] all the deadline for project proposal submissions for the Eclipse Summer of Code @ Google  has been extended... http://tinyurl.com/233j4x  which means you have one more week to join in !
[19:57:13] <paulweb515> dinoh84: is it a java project or plugin project?
[19:57:54] <level09> does eclipse pdt have any wysiwyg editor for web pages ?
[19:59:39] <dinoh84> paulweb515 it is a Java project
[20:00:03] <paulweb515> dinoh84: so you went to the java build path and added it as an external jar?
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[20:01:14] <dinoh84> yes, i can see all of the jars under the "referenced libraries" tab
[20:01:31] <pombreda> level09: no, but we are working on such wysiwyg html editor in the http://eclipse.org/atf project
[20:01:42] <pombreda> and there is one of rJSF in the jsf project
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[20:03:58] <level09> pombreda,thnks, i'll take a look
[20:04:15] <pombreda> level09: nothing available yet
[20:04:28] <pombreda> and the atf one will not be php specific
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[20:17:30] <infocomp> hi
[20:18:03] <zx|cafe> howdy
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[20:24:43] <Rayaken> can anybody show me the direction where to look how to implement a horizontal ruler above my editor area?
[20:26:58] <paulweb515> Rayaken: AbstractDecoratedTextEditor is the class that implements a vertical ruler
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[20:29:29] <Rayaken> yes. a vertical one. but i need a horizontal one where i can mark the positions where the user should enter some source code.
[20:31:18] <paulweb515> Rayaken: you wanted a direction ... check out that code and adapt it ... if you wanted code that already did it, you should have asked.
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[20:32:41] <Rayaken> ok. so implementing a horizontal one is like implementing a vertical one. i'll check AbstractDecoratedTextEditor for the ruler. thanx
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[20:34:29] <Domenique> hi there
[20:34:42] <zx|cafe> howdy
[20:35:16] <Domenique> I'm developing an eclipse rcp application but I want to translate it to other languages ( dutch ) is there an easy way to do this ?
[20:35:47] <Domenique> I've tried installing the language pack, but it's for 3.2.1 and i'm building against 3.3.2
[20:36:00] <zx|cafe> babel.eclipse.org contains some translations
[20:36:01] <Domenique> and ofcourse it doesn't seem to work :)
[20:36:07] <zx|cafe> translations are becoming community drive now
[20:36:26] <IHK> hi, i have just installed eclipse 3.3 unstable for linux amd64, but when i start it, i get a huge error report from eclipse, and in console i can see it says "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: org/eclipse/equinox/launcher/Main (Unsupported major.minor version 49.0)" anyone knows what i need to do to make it work? upgrade my jre? or?
[20:36:46] <IHK> since there's no stable for amd64 of version 3.3 :)
[20:36:56] <Domenique> IHK : your using the wrong version of java jvm
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[20:37:20] <IHK> which should i use?
[20:37:31] <Domenique> I suppose you want to go for 1.5
[20:37:39] <Domenique> java 5 that is :)
[20:37:49] <Domenique> an make sure it's the one from sun
[20:37:58] <Domenique> not gcj or blackdown
[20:38:07] <Domenique> I found them slower then sun's
[20:38:24] <IHK> dev-java/sun-jre-bin this one i suppose?
[20:38:48] <IHK> version 1.6.0.05
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[20:39:14] <Domenique> yup
[20:39:20] <Domenique> that 1.6
[20:39:23] <Domenique> which is fine aswell
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[20:39:35] <IHK> 61 meg :|
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[20:40:36] <Domenique> make sure you have the sdk aswell
[20:40:43] <Domenique> if you want to actually compile java too
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[20:41:10] <IHK> well i got 3.2 working, so i suppose i atleast have that part :)
[20:43:19] <IHK> oh.. lol it's enough to use the one i already had, the jdk just because it were set to blackdown by default..
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[20:51:34] <Rayaken> for those who have interest in formeditors: for multipageeditors there is a different interface for the editoractionbarcontributor than for the normal editor (and those who can read the docs are really blessed =)
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[20:56:40] <[Made]TrU_ChAoS> Is there anyone in here who uses RSE FTP?
[20:56:55] <[Made]TrU_ChAoS> currious if anyone has found a way to set a port other than 21
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[20:59:57] <IHK> do anyone know what i need to install in order to install eUML?
[21:00:21] <IHK> from what i figured out i needed EMF, that also needs tons of things :S
[21:00:33] <IHK> but not sure if i should maybe use something else..
[21:01:01] <IHK> since there's tons of errors with their product..
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[21:05:32] <shiva> I need to create a folder and files during project creation. When I try to create a folder I get Workspace lock exception. What is the workaround..?
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[21:10:03] <mohbana> does eclipse automatically update the project from cvs?
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[21:12:42] <benny`work> mohbana, you need to sync it yourself (project right click, team, synchronize)
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[21:17:21] <acee1234> is there a way to get eclipse to run the code under a command prompt window?
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[21:20:17] <acee1234> dead channel?
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[21:28:36] <njbartlett> acee1234: Nope
[21:30:08] <acee1234> alright
[21:30:15] <acee1234> back to jcreator then
[21:30:29] <njbartlett> acee1234: I meant, nope it's not a dead channel.
[21:30:55] <acee1234> I see.
[21:31:10] <njbartlett> acee1234: If you want Eclipse to run code under a command window, you can simply launch it as an external process
[21:31:28] <acee1234> how can that be done with java?
[21:32:14] <njbartlett> acee1234: It depends on your OS. What are you using, Windows?
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[21:33:06] <acee1234> XP Ubuntu and SUSE
[21:33:32] <acee1234> a general solution for linux would be nice
[21:33:58] <njbartlett> acee1234: Ah. Well I guess you need to launch xterm with a command to execute. I don't use Linux I'm afraid so I won't be able to give you the details.
[21:34:19] <acee1234> alright
[21:34:26] <acee1234> thank you
[21:35:18] <njbartlett> np, sorry I can't be more help
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[21:46:25] <mo> hi everyone. do you think it would make sense to have a system-wide navigator-view in eclipse? it could be use to e.g. to change workspaces quickly or to import folders/archives from filesystem. i'm asking because i'm not sure if i should propose such a contribution as my gsoc-project..
[21:47:23] <rcjsuen> Doesn't TM let you browse the local file system
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[21:49:34] <tmccrary> Does eclipse have a save dialog plugin/bundle/feature ?
[21:49:40] <tmccrary> for use when building plugins
[21:49:48] <mo> rcjsuen: never heard of that. i was looking around about this and only found the commercial ecsplorer-plugin..
[21:49:53] <rcjsuen> ~tm
[21:49:59] <rcjsuen> tmccrary: File > Export?
[21:50:52] <tmccrary> I meant more of saving a document in my plugin, but you made me realize its all built in
[21:50:57] <tmccrary> i'm tired :)
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[21:52:20] <rcjsuen> Saving a document in your plug-in?
[21:52:29] <rcjsuen> Well, when you export you can include files in the jar, if that's what you mean.
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[21:55:47] <tym_the_enchante> Hi, can any one help with a cdt setup problem please?
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[21:59:46] <rcjsuen> tym_the_enchante: a) it's better to just ask the question, b) you could try the ~cdt-faq or c) the cdt newsgroups
[22:00:14] <mo> rcjsuen: so you think this doesn't make sense...?
[22:01:05] <rcjsuen> mo: Hard to say. Maybe you can build on top of what TM already offers.
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[22:01:24] <tym_the_enchante> rcjsuen: ok thanks. I'll check the newsgroups in case google has missed anyting then come back here if no joy.
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[22:01:30] <rcjsuen> mo: I suggest you at least look at their thing and see what they offer.
[22:01:58] <mo> ~tm
[22:01:59] <rcjsuen> mo: Showing you did your research on other similar "solutions" will give mentors a better opinion of you.
[22:02:18] <rcjsuen> www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
[22:03:12] <mo> rcjsuen: well, time is curt until deadline... i just thought about this yesterday and i thought this might be a good proposal.
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[22:05:19] <rcjsuen> right
[22:05:25] <rcjsuen> Well, feel free to submit it.
[22:05:25] <rcjsuen> The mentors will probably contact you if they have something to say.
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[22:08:14] <BadHorsie> hey i have a question, can eclipse connect to an SSH server to get a current php project and update files and all or do i need some other plugin?
[22:08:56] <rcjsuen> There's no such support OOTB.
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[22:09:34] <BadHorsie> out of the box? :P
[22:09:47] <rcjsuen> Yes, that's what I mean.
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[22:10:13] <BadHorsie> how about subclipse? is it stable/intuitive?
[22:10:26] <rcjsuen> What does Subclipse have to do with SSH
[22:10:41] <rcjsuen> unless you mean svn+ssh://
[22:11:00] <rcjsuen> In any case ,I use Subclipse, works fine for me.
[22:11:00] <rcjsuen> All I do is checkout / commit / diff, nothing "complex"
[22:11:13] <BadHorsie> well i'm trying to take a look at alternatives
[22:11:29] <rcjsuen> Well, for Subversion support there's Subclipse and Subversive.
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[22:11:42] <BadHorsie> we have an SVN repository that we can grant access to, i'm in linux and i don't know what alternatives i have for a windows user
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[22:13:17] <BadHorsie> which one do you recommend the easiest between subclipse and subversive?
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[22:17:46] <rcjsuen> BadHorsie: *shrugs* I've only used Subclipse.
[22:18:30] <benny`work> BadHorsie, you could also use dsdp/tm use "include" an folder over ssh into your workspace to work with it.
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[22:18:46] <benny`work> BadHorsie, you'd need to give it a try as not all editors support it yet
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[22:34:49] <BadHorsie> ok, thanks a lot guys
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[22:42:14] <infocomp> good night
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[22:49:23] <mib_w7anfy> is there a way to update or add package source without having to recreate the project?
[22:51:02] <mib_w7anfy> i copied (overwrite) over the updated source files with files with the same directory structure and got the error message "resource is out of sync with the file system"
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[22:51:51] <tmccrary> refresh the project
[22:51:54] <mib_w7anfy> the .java files are exactly the same names and directory structure, with a few updates
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[22:55:07] <mib_w7anfy> tmccrary that worked; refresh lets me see the source but now there are a bunch of errors that no one else reported
[22:55:30] <mib_w7anfy> is there a best practice method for updating source?
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[22:57:10] <tmccrary> svn?
[22:57:30] <tmccrary> You may want to do a rebuild after the refresh
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[22:57:57] <tmccrary> Eclipse incrementally recompiles the source somehow, it works great most of the time. But when you do something weird it can cause problems.
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[23:12:39] <mib_w7anfy> tmccrary ok thanks for you help
[23:14:19] <Zack1403> hey guys anything i do in eclipse causes ad java heap space error.  Any ideas on how i can trouble shoot this?
[23:14:47] <tmccrary> you'll want to increase the jvm heap size
[23:15:06] <Zack1403> tried through a couple different means
[23:15:22] <Zack1403> added after binary, and tried adding in jre args
[23:15:38] <tmccrary> it can be a little picky
[23:15:41] <tmccrary> you have to use power of two sizes
[23:15:52] <tmccrary> What parameters did you use?
[23:16:17] <tmccrary> I would do something like -Xms256m -Xmx256m
[23:16:33] <Zack1403> ahh ill try that one sec
[23:17:50] <mib_w7anfy> tmccrary what's weird is that the project ran ok before i hit refresh... i'm not sure what rebuild means, but doesn't it build the project each time it's run?
[23:18:05] <mib_w7anfy> i mean, it ran even though i was getting the out of sync error
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[23:18:31] <tmccrary> eclipse doesn't know there are changes to the files until you hit refresh
[23:18:38] <tmccrary> I'm not sure what was going on ;)
[23:20:03] <Zack1403> tmccrary: still getting the error but i thought it was everything i did but its actually when trying to publish to tomcat.  Anything specific for that?
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[23:20:53] <ijuma> mib_w7anfy: no, it does not build everytime it's run
[23:21:05] <ijuma> mib_w7anfy: it builds after each file is changed
[23:21:18] <ijuma> when you hit refresh, it helps eclipse notice external changes
[23:21:41] <tmccrary> Zack1403: I know I needed to increase the heap size for the wtp plugins or eclipse would crash
[23:21:54] <Zack1403> yea same thing here
[23:22:07] <ijuma> when you do an update, if it's from inside eclipse then this change _should_ be noticed, but from outside the workspace, then you need to refresh manually or enable automatic refresh
[23:22:35] <Zack1403> tmccrary: but adding -Xms256m -Xmx256m to the jre args should do the trick?
[23:23:04] <tmccrary> yeah
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[23:26:15] <Zack1403> tmccrary:  that doesnt look like its doing it.  It not like its spinning its wheels until it runs out of memory, its just instantly saying java heap space
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[23:28:15] <tmccrary> Zack1403: Maybe it's tomcats jvm that needs the heap increase?
[23:29:20] <DHowett> 3.3.2 crashes in native code when I open java files in my project, and I have no idea where to start fixing the issue. The only java-related change to my system was the upgrade from sun-jdk 1.6.0_04 to 1.6.0_05 . . .
[23:29:58] <Zack1403> tmccrary: tried catalina_opts with no luck.  A normal tomcat startup works fine though.  This is very close to a fresh install.  Only one tomcat project
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[23:33:23] <DHowett> Huh. it breaks when i open ANY file that the editor would be used for ...
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