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[00:00:31] <njbartlett> ijuma: Yeah it was cool. David Pollak turned up, he showed some liftweb stuff. Then we got into a deep discussion of monads :-)
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[00:00:48] <njbartlett> ijuma: A small number of the Bay FP folks were there
[00:00:51] <ijuma> njbartlett: hehe
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[00:05:32] <Hiro2k> Hello I am interested in participating in the Google Summer of Code
[00:05:54] <Hiro2k> Who are the administrators that I should get in touch with?
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[00:07:14] <njbartlett> Hiro2k: I think you can contact Wayne Beaton
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[00:09:42] <Hiro2k> njbartlett: Thanks
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[00:10:50] <njbartlett> Hiro2k: ?????????:-)
[00:12:37] <Hiro2k> What does that mean? haha
[00:12:54] <benny`work> :D
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[00:13:18] <njbartlett> Hiro2k: Oh well, I got it wrong? Serve me right for trying to be smart.
[00:13:44] <Hiro2k> No I meant I don't speak Japanese :p
[00:13:53] <Hiro2k> I'm currently on vacation in Japan :)
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[00:17:00] <benny`work> njbartlett, don't believe in hostnames )
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[00:17:44] <v1rtuous> hey all
[00:17:54] <njbartlett> Ah well, the name "Hiro" seemed a good clue as well
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[00:29:42] <qbert> I need to develop an RCP app, anyone have some good links to tutorials / references ?
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[00:37:39] <Zerone> n8 *
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[00:43:38] <ryanzec> is there any reason why eclipse uses so much more memory on linux(ubuntu) than on window?
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[00:44:45] <qbert> ryanzec: gtk ?
[00:45:15] <ijuma> ryanzec: are you using a 64-bit version by any chance?
[00:45:27] <ryanzec> hahaha, yea i am using 64-bit
[00:45:47] <ryanzec> is that the issue?
[00:46:03] <ryanzec> or one possible cause
[00:46:06] <ijuma> ryanzec: yeah, the 64-bit jvm uses a lot more memory
[00:46:13] <ijuma> i can't say for sure, but it's very likely
[00:46:32] <ijuma> ryanzec: how much more is it taking?
[00:48:01] <ryanzec> well on startup, it uses about the same around 40MB(from memery heap feature).  after about 8 hours on window it might be 55MB/60MB bo ton 64-bit linux it can be any around 120MB-160MB
[00:49:26] <ijuma> that seems about right then. The 64-bit vm uses more memory because references are twice as large, but also it uses the -server JIT instead of -client. The -server is more aggressive when it comes to allocation than -client
[00:49:34] <ijuma> and there's no -client for 64-bit yet
[00:49:40] <ijuma> although there will be for jdk7
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[01:36:32] <malibu> Anyone here familiar with subclipse?
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[03:13:56] <rawblem> howdy =]   eclipse pde keeps building my plugin with 1.6 compiler instead of 1.5.  Any ideas where I change this?  I swear I've changed like 5 places already
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[03:44:04] <jlpp> Anyone: is there are recommended approach for getting eclipse with WTP to deploy war files to the embedded Tomcat (catalina base) rather than eclipse's normal behavior of copying the exploded web directory structure?
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[03:46:28] <Romain> Hi there
[03:46:36] <Romain> I need some help
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[03:47:03] <xhr1t> how do i regenerate my plugin data?
[03:47:16] <drizoh2008> is there a WYSIWYG plugin for editing html files visually in eclipse?
[03:48:03] <Romain> I am debugging a project, there are missing libraries
[03:48:21] <Romain> import net.sf.acegisecurity.Authentication; is not recognized
[03:48:38] <Romain> do you know where I should download the required files?
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[03:56:47] <jlpp> romain: search google for acegi
[03:56:58] <Romain> I already searched google
[03:57:06] <Romain> I download all the packages
[03:57:18] <Romain> and import jar in my project
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[03:57:31] <Romain> but I am beginner so maybe I made something wrong
[03:57:39] <jlpp> did you try inspecting the contents of the acegi jars to see if you can find the Authentication class?
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[04:02:54] <jlpp> does anyone here use eclipse/wtp/tomcat?
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[04:07:16] <ivan> what's the equivalent of emacs' M-x occur in eclipse?
[04:07:36] <ivan> where you get an output of lines matching your search in a temporary buffer
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[04:28:57] <Romain> In fact I downloaded the acegi security packages
[04:29:14] <Romain> and make my project dependent from all the jars it contains
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[04:29:28] <Romain> I don't know if I was right to do that
[04:29:42] <arooni> this is my elcipse.ini file: http://pastie.caboo.se/168591
[04:29:48] <arooni> and eclipse ist aking forever to startup
[04:29:52] <arooni> and crashing often
[04:29:54] <arooni> can someone help me to fix it
[04:32:33] <arooni> anyone?
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[05:13:02] <rcjsuen> qbert: There is an rcp ~faq I think, that might be of some use.
[05:13:02] <KOS-MOS> Please see the FAQs http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs
[05:13:10] <rcjsuen> And there's an article on eclipse.org i think
[05:13:41] <rcjsuen> arooni: Does it take forever to start on a fresh workspace? Does it crash if you use Eclipse Classic?
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[07:03:26] <Romain> who knows acegi security?
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[08:00:51] <Rayaken> hi, i got a problem that the line position of the cursor in my own editor is not shown anymore in the statusline. it worked as i plainly used my editor (extends AbstractDecoratedTextEditor) but now i wrapped it up inside a formeditor and now the line position is not showing anymore. any idea how to fix this?
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[08:19:54] <dinochopins> Happy easter day everyone
[08:23:44] <Rayaken> hi
[08:24:19] <dinochopins> hi rayaken
[08:24:46] <Rayaken> i got a problem that the line position of the cursor in my own editor is not shown anymore in the statusline. it worked as i plainly used my editor (extends AbstractDecoratedTextEditor) but now i wrapped it up inside a formeditor and now the line position is not showing anymore. you know how to fix this?
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[08:54:48] <dinochopins> can we create a snippet template code in Eclipse ?
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[09:03:00] <Rayaken> do u mean something like in Preferences->Java->Editor->Templates
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[09:04:10] <dinochopins> Rayaken, yes it is. Thanks ;)
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[09:15:52] <pulpfiction> how do i install a plugin from a zip?
[09:16:04] <pulpfiction> just unzip it on the eclipse's folder?
[09:20:15] <Rayaken> there are several ways of installing a plugin. extracting it in the eclipse folder is one way. Help->Software Updates -> Manage Configurations is another way
[09:25:50] <pulpfiction> ok, but from the software updates it seems i couldn't get the latest version of wst
[09:26:06] <pulpfiction> so i downloaded the zip and tried to add as an extension
[09:26:20] <pulpfiction> but eclipse complains it couldn't find a .hidden file
[09:26:26] <pulpfiction> inside the eclipse folder
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[09:36:16] <Rayaken> never heard of a .hidden file
[09:36:29] <Rayaken> but i am no expert with plugins
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[10:21:05] <pounard> hi
[10:21:12] <pounard> I have a tricky situation
[10:21:24] <pounard> i have a big project in my eclipse workspace
[10:21:44] <pounard> which have many folders which are SVN working copies
[10:21:57] <pounard> but not from the same svn server
[10:22:11] <pounard> can i tell eclipse i want just a folder of my project to be svn managed ?
[10:23:44] <pounard> which plugin can do this ?
[10:26:19] <dominikg> pounard, there are 2 eclipse plugins that offer subversion support: subclipse and subversive .. but afaik you can only share a project in one repository... if you need different repositories, you need to break your project structure into one project per repo at least... you can still use project dependencies to link them
[10:27:08] <pounard> ok
[10:27:25] <pounard> that's not really good for me to do this, but i'll try
[10:27:26] <pounard> thanks
[10:27:56] <pounard> my working environnement is built from many scripts which assemble many pieces together
[10:28:08] <pounard> so i have many different folders to be manged with svn
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[10:31:37] <jink> Sounds messy. :)
[10:31:49] <pounard> noo it's not :)
[10:31:58] <pounard> power of web apps
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[10:40:16] <Rayaken> hi, i got a problem that the line position of the cursor in my own editor is not shown anymore in the statusline. it worked as i plainly used my editor (extends AbstractDecoratedTextEditor) but now i wrapped it up inside a formeditor and now the line position is not showing anymore. any idea how to fix this?
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[10:44:18] <ilm> hi
[10:44:55] <ilm> using eclipse 3.3.1 for a svn project (not using any svn plugins in eclipse), and i got a big problem trying to filter out the .svn folders in the output directory
[10:45:42] <dinochopins> is sun's hotspot a replacement for jdk ?
[10:45:53] <ilm> thought i solved it by specifying .svn in Filtered Resources, but that doesn't seem to work. because i'm on linux or .svn is a whole directory  ?
[10:46:01] <dinochopins> and if so... what is the license for redistributing it ?
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[10:51:10] <Guest33979> hello there. i am new to eclipse and downloaded the java and the c++ package. how do i merge them to have on eclipse for every language?
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[10:56:57] <dominikg> Guest33979: use one installation as a base, go to help -> software updates -> find and install
[10:57:50] <dominikg> it will open the update manager, you can use the europa discovery site to install other plugins (like cdt or jdt)
[10:58:22] <dominikg> if you are new to eclipse, i'd recommend you read the workbench user guide (help -> help content) to get an idea of how eclipse works
[10:59:11] <dominikg> and article about advanced managing of eclipse installations: ~manage
[10:59:11] <KOS-MOS> Manage your Eclipse environment - http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-ecl-manage/
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[11:14:24] <Guest33979> thanks. like i understood, the only thing i have to do is to copy the content of the plugin and feature directories e.g. from eclipse-c++ to eclipse-java. then i can remove eclipse-c++ and rename eclipse-java to eclipse because i can now program java AND c++ with one eclipse program
[11:14:57] <Hattori> hello, i installed jars of packages found http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/drops/R3.0/S-3.0M5-20080218021547/ but i realized that those were for a newer version of eclipse.. is there a way to remove them? i didn't save the configuration before that..
[11:16:49] <Guest33979> but i do not understand, why there are seperate eclipse packages on http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/, e.g. one für java, one for c++
[11:17:32] <Guest33979> what is the difference of the classic edition to the others?
[11:18:52] <Rayaken> hi, i have a treeviewer and a context menu for the tree. now i want another plugin to contribute an action which will be executed on a double click on an item. how do i set things up for this?
[11:21:21] <dominikg> Guest33979: do NOT copy the content of one distribution into the other... (it may work, if its the exact same build id, but is errorprone)
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[11:24:39] <dominikg> the different distributions are offers for developers... some do java, some do c ... the classic package is the 'original' eclipse sdk, its useful if you develop eclipse plugins ... in your case use either the java or c distribution and add the other language plugin to that. If you are new to eclipse, i recommend you use the update manager. Its not perfect, but gets you going a lot faster than manually adding removing plugins on the file s
[11:26:47] <dominikg> Hattori, check the plugins/ and features/ directories of your eclipse installation and delete all jars that belong to the newer version. (keep a backup in case you delete too many). after deleting, restart eclipse wth -clean
[11:28:12] <Guest33979> i am a little bit confused...
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[11:31:21] <dominikg> Guest33979. you only need to install (unzip) eclipse once... i suggest you start with 'eclipse for java developers' from www.eclipse.org/downloads
[11:31:48] <dominikg> after you installed and started it, use the update manager to add cdt
[11:31:53] <dominikg> ~update-manager
[11:31:53] <KOS-MOS> Never used Update Manager? - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#Where_can_I_get_project_XYZ.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#What_is_the_Update_Manager.3F
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[11:45:52] <Hattori> dominikg: they are a lot and how can i know any of them doesn't overwrite previous ones?
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[11:46:29] <dominikg> there is a version id in each filename?
[11:46:54] <Hattori> is it?
[11:47:00] <Hattori> ok, will try later. thanks
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[12:53:05] <xoqa> what features does eclipse have that vim doesn't? what are some ways it can make me more productive?
[12:53:59] <rcjsuen> That's a pretty open ended question.
[12:54:26] <rcjsuen> It also depends on what you do in Vim and what plug-ins you have.
[12:54:36] <dominikg> indeed.. and i'd say you can't even compare them because vim is more of an editor while eclipse is a platform / ide
[12:54:36] <rcjsuen> There are many Eclipse plug-ins just like there are many Vim plug-ins.
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[12:54:43] <rcjsuen> And of course, they all have varying degrees of maturity.
[12:57:19] <dominikg> and there are plugins to use vim features in eclipse and vice versa.. ~searchplugins vi
[12:57:37] <dominikg> ~searchplugins vi
[12:57:38] <KOS-MOS> Try searching for plug-ins: http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/modules.php?name=search&action=search&q=vi - http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/search.jsp?query=vi
[12:57:38] <rcjsuen> dominikg: oh, those "commands" don't work in an embedded scenario
[12:57:48] <rcjsuen> or "commands with arguments"
[12:58:21] <dominikg> just noticed it, makes sense, because how'd you know here the arguments end :)
[12:58:25] <xoqa> thanks for responses :)
[12:58:56] <dominikg> already back home rcjsuen?
[12:58:59] <rcjsuen> xoqa: np, let us know if you have a more narrow question ;)
[12:59:10] <rcjsuen> dominikg: I was back in Canadian soil on late Tuesday.
[12:59:29] <rcjsuen> dominikg: I'm at my brother's place right now though since it's Good Friday so we have no-school (3-day weekend).
[12:59:43] <rcjsuen> catching up on emails finally since after i came back on Tuesday
[12:59:49] <rcjsuen> i had an assignment due wed and two tests on thurs ;)
[13:00:25] <dominikg> ouch...
[13:00:48] <rcjsuen> dominikg: I brought some textbooks with me so I did some reading/studying on the plane :)
[13:01:01] <rcjsuen> which is probably more than i'd do at home because i'd be distracted by IRC :D
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[13:03:04] <dominikg> hehe.. i finally got a week off now. (btw. in germany, easter is 4 days off (fr+mo are official holidays) :P
[13:03:18] <rcjsuen> ah
[13:03:25] <rcjsuen> my brother doesn't get off work and I don't get off school
[13:03:30] <rcjsuen> maybe it is a bank holiday tho? I'm not sure
[13:03:31] <rcjsuen> oh well
[13:05:06] <dominikg> i'm gonna start doing some plugin dev (at least until tuesday) you don't happen to have some pointers on ecf features/bugs that'd make a good starting point?
[13:05:54] <rcjsuen> Most of the easy ones have patches already I think, although maybe not.
[13:06:24] <rcjsuen> let's see now
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[13:08:29] <rcjsuen> dominikg: Are you good with SWT?
[13:08:51] <rcjsuen> actually, even for this one i'm not sure how to fix lol ;)
[13:09:52] <dominikg> no, not really. i did some hello  world stuff but thats it...
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[13:10:47] <rcjsuen> most of our bugs are either UI or networking-related (which would require quite some familiarity with said networking code)
[13:12:14] <amitev> is there a colaboration package for eclipse?
[13:12:25] <rcjsuen> Collaboration package?
[13:12:35] <amitev> yes
[13:12:39] <rcjsuen> You mean like those "Eclipse for Java Devs" packages?
[13:13:05] <amitev> take a look here: http://collab.netbeans.org/
[13:13:08] <amitev> something like this
[13:13:11] <rcjsuen> No.
[13:13:16] <rcjsuen> ^I've seen that video before.
[13:13:22] <rcjsuen> i mean
[13:13:22] <amitev> okay, thx.
[13:13:25] <rcjsuen> there's nothing at Eclipse.org
[13:13:29] <rcjsuen> there might be 3rd party plug-ins :)
[13:13:34] <rcjsuen> actually, there probably is
[13:13:36] <dominikg> what about jazz?
[13:13:38] <amitev> i'll search
[13:13:39] <rcjsuen> there's either a plug-in or rcp
[13:13:50] <rcjsuen> dominikg: Jazz doesn't do _that_ kind of collaboration.
[13:13:54] <rcjsuen> dominikg: That video is code review.
[13:13:59] <amitev> yes
[13:14:04] <rcjsuen> dominikg: Unless they added that feature since I used Jazz in the summer ;)
[13:14:06] <amitev> i need it for code review
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[13:14:22] <dominikg> oh ... i remember there is a plugin that does it (free to use, but closed source)
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[13:14:24] <rcjsuen> i know there are shared editing plug-ins anyway
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[13:14:41] <rcjsuen> oh snaps now i forgot what i was going to tell nitind about
[13:14:48] <rcjsuen> ah yes, a shared editor on Mac
[13:15:08] <rcjsuen> Pookzilla: Have you used SubEthaEdit?
[13:15:28] <Pookzilla> nope
[13:15:41] <rcjsuen> how odd
[13:15:43] <rcjsuen> or maybe not
[13:15:49] <rcjsuen> how often do people really edit a document at the same time ;p
[13:15:53] <amitev> dominikg: do you remember the plugin name?
[13:17:28] <Pookzilla> rcjsuen: that's what google documents are for
[13:17:34] <dominikg> not really, but it'll come...
[13:17:48] <rcjsuen> amitev: http://www.devx.com/enterprise/Article/31658/0/page/1
[13:18:12] <rcjsuen> amitev: there's a shared editor in ECF, which i guess you could also use to code review
[13:18:14] <rcjsuen> but it's rather primitive
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[13:19:15] <Rayaken> i got a problem that the line position of the cursor in my own editor is not shown anymore in the statusline. it worked as i plainly used my editor (extends AbstractDecoratedTextEditor) but now i wrapped it up inside a formeditor and now the line position is not showing anymore. you know how to fix this?
[13:19:24] <dominikg> amitev, i think it was polarion fasttrack and its advanced commit feature i remembered: http://www.polarion.com/products/svn/fasttrack.php
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[13:20:17] <amitev> dominikg: thx.
[13:20:28] <amitev> rcjsuen: jupiter is what i need
[13:21:33] <rcjsuen> jupiter?
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[13:21:40] <rcjsuen> that does sound familiar
[13:21:55] <rcjsuen> oh that was what i sent you
[13:21:56] <rcjsuen> lol
[13:22:00] <rcjsuen> sorry, i didn't really read the article ;)
[13:22:05] <rcjsuen> to be quite honest
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[13:23:16] <FlaPer87> hey guys, does any of you use subeclipse?
[13:23:24] <dominikg> <-
[13:23:30] <rcjsuen> me
[13:23:35] <rcjsuen> but only for primitive operations
[13:23:44] <rcjsuen> so my opinion doesn't really count
[13:23:50] <FlaPer87> ok, is it possible to see the commit logs with subeclipse?
[13:24:03] <dominikg> team -> show history
[13:24:06] <rcjsuen> Team > Show History
[13:24:15] <FlaPer87> i mean, if someone does a commit and set a log message, how can i see that log message when i do a svn update
[13:24:18] <FlaPer87> ok
[13:24:20] <FlaPer87> thanks
[13:24:20] <FlaPer87> :-D
[13:25:07] <dominikg> and if you are really curious, you can use 'show annotation' on files...
[13:26:16] <FlaPer87> dominikg hmm, let's see
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[13:33:08] <rcjsuen> Rayaken: hm, does the PDE's souce editor show it?
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[13:36:51] <rcjsuen> dominikg: i'm having a hard time finding non-UI bugs
[13:36:59] <rcjsuen> dominikg: Maybe Pookzilla has something you can do :)
[13:37:44] <Pookzilla> I haven't done laundry in a week
[13:38:39] <rcjsuen> what a noble cause
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[13:39:56] <Pookzilla> sorry , I'm still waking up
[13:40:01] <Pookzilla> what's he looking for?
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[13:40:49] <rcjsuen> Pookzilla: easy bugs
[13:40:55] <rcjsuen> Pookzilla: but dominikg is not that familiar with SWT
[13:41:22] <Pookzilla> does he want SWT bugs or any bugs or?
[13:41:49] <rcjsuen> well, let's see what he says, maybe he went afk ;)
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[14:04:41] <Hattori> current configuration problems: WTP Web Page Editor (2.0.0.v200801241417-3-29oA55S5A5J) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.jst.jsf.common.ui (1.0.0)", or compatible.
[14:04:45] <Hattori> how can i fix it?
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[14:13:16] <Hattori> nobody know where to get that plugin?
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[14:13:52] <rzec> is there a setting to remove any spaces/tabs at the end of a line when saving?
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[14:24:45] <Hattori> current configuration problems: WTP Web Page Editor (2.0.0.v200801241417-3-29oA55S5A5J) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.jst.jsf.common.ui (1.0.0)", or compatible.
[14:24:48] <Hattori> how can i fix it?
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[14:47:25] <rzec> where is the log file stored for errors for eclipse?
[14:48:34] <rzec> every time i try to error a file java tells me a stack error overflow has occured, anyone know what might cause this?
[14:49:10] <rzec> no every time but is happening every 4-5 second while i am editting
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[14:52:28] <ecfuser10177> ?
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[14:53:58] <greifen> here?
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[14:54:27] <greifen> herr
[14:54:39] <dominikg> Hattori, use the update manager , there is a button 'select required' on the right
[14:55:18] <chris_hat_irc> hello everybody. I have been sitting with that problem since 4 hours: I am creating a RCP-View. When I create a Text-widget and setSize everything works. As soon as I put that Text-Widget in a Layout, the size gets lost to a standardlength of 9 digits. Can anybody help me?
[14:55:18] <dominikg> be sure you expand all nodes on the left, or it won't find everything (known bug, fixed in the next version)
[14:57:01] <dominikg> Pookzilla, i got some days of and want to start contributing to eclipse. i havn't done much plugin dev jet tho, so i'm looking for some easy stuff that helps me get started.. i don't have a problem with digging throuhg docs and apis, but for starters i'd like it to not be too complex :)
[14:57:10] <dominikg> *day of
[14:57:14] <dominikg> *off
[14:57:57] <dominikg> ~tell rzec about logs
[14:57:58] <KOS-MOS> rzec: Looking for your Eclipse logs? The workspace log should be located at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. From within Eclipse, try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[15:00:14] <chris_hat_irc> Is it possible to give a text-widget a fix length in a form? Can it be, that there is only stuff like "fill_horizontal", etc possible?
[15:00:33] <chris_hat_irc> in a layout, sry
[15:00:49] <greifen> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[15:01:51] <Hattori> dominikg: it doesn't select anything. and the error stay there and no "next" button available while error stay there
[15:03:22] <dominikg> ok. an easy way to get the latest wtp with all requirements is to download the JEE distribution from www.eclipse.org/downloads  extract it in a new directory and point it at your old workspace
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[15:06:38] <masterflexor> When making comparisons of source code by right clicking on a folder on the file explorer and selecting: Compare With > Base from working copy -- is it possible to have syntax highlighting in the comparisons?
[15:07:00] <masterflexor> The file types that I'm comparing are of type '.tpl', which are really HTML files.
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[15:09:41] <mhaller> chris_hat_irc: : yes, you can give w width_hint on GridLayout eg. you canhave multiple layouts in a form. a form is not tight to a specific layout (manager)
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[15:10:36] <mhaller> masterflexor: no, syntax highlighting is not supported (yet?)
[15:10:59] <masterflexor> mhaller, thanks (darn)
[15:12:07] <chris_hat_irc> mhaller: thanks!
[15:12:32] <mhaller> chris_hat_irc: you're using GridLayout?
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[15:14:21] <chris_hat_irc> mhaller: With the GridLayout it is working (GridData.widhtHint). But I want tu use the TableWrapLayout, and the TableWrapData doesn't support such a function
[15:16:31] <mhaller> chris_hat_irc: you aren't grouping your input fields into Composites before adding them in a top composite having TableWrapLayout?
[15:17:21] <chris_hat_irc> Not at the moment. But I would like to in the future. In Example "Password:" and a Password-Text-Widget
[15:17:33] <chris_hat_irc> mhaller: means label and a text
[15:20:07] <mhaller> chris_hat_irc: usually, you're using multiple layouts and for such form-style things like Label:Inputfield you'll probably use the GridLayout anyway
[15:20:46] <chris_hat_irc> mhaller: Oh I understand what you mean. Give the hint to a Composite with a gridlayout, which contains the label and a text. Then add the composite to a Tablewrap?
[15:20:58] <rzec> the crashing seems to have stopped but here is the log file for anyone who might want to help me find why it was crashing http://pastebin.com/m5f895d8f
[15:21:55] <chris_hat_irc> mhaller: that works fine!
[15:22:01] <mhaller> chris_hat_irc: :)
[15:22:51] <chris_hat_irc> mhaller: The 4-hours-trip has an end.
[15:22:56] <chris_hat_irc> mhaller: thanks a lot
[15:24:52] <Hattori> dominikg: is there a clever way to know where to download a specific plugin? like org.apache.xerces.feature for example?
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[15:30:05] <dominikg> Hattori, the update manager has a 'select required' button and the projects download pages list required plugins/downloads
[15:30:38] <Hattori> dominikg: it doesn't select anything. and the error stay there and no "next" button available while error stay there
[15:33:14] <dominikg> try restarting eclipse with -clean first. The problem is, if your current configuration is invalid, th UM may refuse to work. A fresh installation (like i suggested before) would be faster than fiddling around requirement issues one by one...
[15:33:15] <robot_jesus> Do Forms have tooltips ?  I need a tooltip with an image and structured text, will I need to write a custom widget
[15:35:07] <dominikg> Hattori, most of your settings are stored in the workspace, so they do not get lost if you open your old workspace with the new eclipse installation
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[15:40:15] <chris_hat_irc> how do i dynamically break texts in a gridlayout?
[15:40:33] <chris_hat_irc> texts in labels oder in checkboxes
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[15:40:42] <chris_hat_irc> or do i need an other layout for that?
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[15:52:23] <tsrepadmin> Hi, could anybody tell me where to get the ITextEditor class?
[15:53:17] <jink> Google, first hit.  org.eclipse.ui.texteditor.ITextEditor
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[15:55:00] <tsrepadmin> jink: yes i know, but where can i find the plugin files to install?
[15:55:30] <tsrepadmin> I'm searching for somethng like a list of available plugins
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[15:55:52] <tsrepadmin> and don't find it on www.eclipse.org
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[15:58:03] <robot_jesus> ~plugins
[15:58:03] <KOS-MOS> Look for plug-ins at the Eclipse Plug-in Central (http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/) and EclipsePlugins (http://eclipse-plugins.info)
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[15:58:32] <tsrepadmin> ah, okay. thanks
[15:59:12] <robot_jesus> your welcome
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[16:04:01] <tsrepadmin> robot_jesus: cannot find it there: org.eclipse.ui.texteditor @ search : no results
[16:05:05] <robot_jesus> ITextEditor is in the base eclipse package, why are you looking for that class inparticular ?
[16:05:16] <robot_jesus> actually im not sure where it is, I would guess its in core
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[16:05:55] <tsrepadmin> because I test a plugin which I downloaded, and this plugin needs ITextEditor
[16:06:27] <tsrepadmin> (plugin development)
[16:08:06] <tsrepadmin> And the import fails, therefore I guess it's not in the core ;-)
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[16:18:25] <robot_jesus> ctrl-shift-O needs to work for static imports also :S
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[16:25:01] <seanmh> Anyone around that can help with BIRT?
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[16:29:59] <robot_jesus> with this room you just have to ask and come back or check the logs
[16:30:02] <robot_jesus> if itis slow that is
[16:30:27] <ijuma> robot_jesus: you can use static import content assist favourites for some stuff
[16:31:15] <robot_jesus> favourites ?  are you british :P ?
[16:31:49] <robot_jesus> what is static import content assist favorites ?
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[16:32:26] <ijuma> robot_jesus: you know, preferences has a filter mechanism. You can type it there and you will see ;)
[16:32:39] <ijuma> robot_jesus: and I am not British, but I live in the UK
[16:33:44] <njbartlett> robot_jesus: It's not just the UK that spells it "favourite", either.
[16:35:21] <robot_jesus> ijuma: thanks
[16:35:29] <robot_jesus> I need to start using filters more
[16:35:30] <ijuma> np
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[16:41:46] <CVirus> is it okay to rm -rf ~/.eclipse/org.eclipse.sdk.ide ?
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[16:44:32] <tsrepadmin> robot_jesus: Ctrl-Shift-o just deletes the imports not found
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[16:45:38] <tsrepadmin> but the imported classes obviusly are still in use
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[16:46:08] <weltlin1> hi there ...
[16:46:13] <robot_jesus> ctrl+shift+o also imports all the needed imports if you have unresolved symbols
[16:46:28] <robot_jesus> I didnt know it dleteed them also :)
[16:46:43] <robot_jesus> sweet
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[16:46:46] <rcjsuen> CVirus: You'd have to ask your distro.
[16:46:56] <rcjsuen> The original Eclipse from eclipse.org does not use .eclipse
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[16:47:06] <rcjsuen> at least, it is rare/unlikely
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[16:47:52] <ijuma> ctrl-shift-O is "Organize imports" so it removes redundant ones and adds missing ones
[16:47:55] <tsrepadmin> robot_jesus: i just found out, that i already have the plugins nstalled, but they weren't in the build path
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[16:48:37] <ijuma> rcjsuen: his did the exam go?
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[16:48:51] <weltlin1> i'm tryin to compile some c++ stuff with eclipse 3.3.2, but it don't works with headers like #include <vector>, only #include <vector.h> ... i've tried to add the include dirs to the project properties, but that hasn't worked too ... any idea?
[16:48:55] <rcjsuen> ijuma: You mean how?
[16:49:07] <robot_jesus> tsrepadmin: cool :)
[16:49:10] <CVirus> rcjsuen: thanks
[16:49:26] <rcjsuen> ijuma: Not too well. But I performed well on one of my papers, so hopefully that'll give me a good "buffer" ;)
[16:49:33] <tsrepadmin> robot_jesus: thx for help
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[16:50:24] <ijuma> rcjsuen: yes, that's what I mean. What I wrote made no sense ;)
[16:50:35] <ijuma> rcjsuen: I see, good luck with that
[16:52:27] <rcjsuen> thx
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[17:07:04] <ijuma> rcjsuen: do you know how the build path project dependency works? I thought it would just look in the output folder for the classes, but for Scala projects I have to actually add the output folder manually
[17:07:08] <ijuma> rcjsuen: any idea why?
[17:11:21] <rcjsuen> ijuma: I thought it just looked at the .classpath file of the other projects too.
[17:11:30] <rcjsuen> but for jars you might need to set it to reexport if you know what i mean
[17:11:47] <ijuma> jars work fine, this is for the actual project source
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[17:12:38] <ijuma> it's actually more confusing, some parts seem to work fine (no errors in Problems View), but others do not (e.g. editor shows errors and once it does organize imports it removes valid imports)
[17:12:49] <ijuma> and _then_ there are errors in the Problems View
[17:13:02] <ijuma> if I add the class folders manually then it works completely fine
[17:13:03] <ijuma> weird
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[17:13:32] <rcjsuen> hm
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[17:28:07] <pombreda> ijuma: are those plugins or regular java/scala projects
[17:28:09] <pombreda> ?
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[17:28:59] <ijuma> pombreda: regular
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[17:30:06] <pombreda> ijuma: are scala projecst also jdt projects?
[17:31:00] <ijuma> pombreda: they have the java nature
[17:31:08] <ijuma> but not the builder I think
[17:31:16] * ijuma checks the builder
[17:31:44] <ijuma> yeah, no java builder
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[17:40:51] <pombreda> that could possibly be an issue. the indexes might be attached to the builder bist ?
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[17:45:50] <ijuma> pombreda: Good point. Maybe it delegates it to the java builder of a dependent project, but does it itself when it's a class folder dependency
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[17:58:30] <pombreda> ijuma: just a hunch, but worth trying to add a java builder
[17:58:43] <pombreda> ijuma: the output folders are for the builder afaik
[17:58:46] <pombreda> not the nature
[17:58:51] <ijuma> pombreda: yeah, i am trying that now, but there's a reason why I removed it :)
[17:58:52] <pombreda> but i may be wrong
[17:58:57] <ijuma> it conflicts with the scala builder
[17:59:03] <pombreda> ah!
[17:59:05] <ijuma> so things are cleaned twice, etc.
[17:59:14] <pombreda> it kinda sounds wirds to ahve one without the other though
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[18:03:42] <ijuma> pombreda: yeah, it means that you can't have mixed projects
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[18:04:25] <ijuma> pombreda: but Sean said that he was not able to get them both to work together. The java builder would happily overwrite the scala builder output and such
[18:04:52] <ijuma> i'd be happy if the scala builder made its classes available in the same way as the java builder, but apparently not
[18:05:57] <pombreda> ijuma: unless you trick the java builder and scala builder to use different output folders?
[18:06:01] <ijuma> i think the easiest thing seems to be to customize the maven eclipse plugin (command-line one) to write the classpath specially so that the output folders are included (maven is used in this project)
[18:06:21] <ijuma> pombreda: i have no idea how to do that :)
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[18:07:48] <pombreda> ijuma: disable build auto
[18:07:59] <pombreda> ijuma: add jdt nature + builder to project
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[18:08:50] <pombreda> in project proeprties, set output for java to bin-java in build path/source tab
[18:09:16] <pombreda> assuming there is a way to set the outpyt folder for scala to something else
[18:09:22] <pombreda> set it to scal-bin
[18:09:22] <ijuma> pombreda: that's the problem :)
[18:09:28] <ijuma> it just shares the same dialog
[18:09:36] <pombreda> ah
[18:09:40] <pombreda> failure
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[18:09:51] <ijuma> hmm
[18:09:58] <pombreda> sharing the same output fodler for 2 builders that waan arule the world is bad forms
[18:10:05] <ijuma> yeap
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[18:10:08] <pombreda> *wanna
[18:10:26] <ijuma> i guess i could configure each source folder to have a specific output folder
[18:10:27] <ijuma> hmm
[18:10:39] <slango> is there a way to get Subclipse Commit and Update as Toolbar buttons in the PHP perspective (or any given perspective)?
[18:12:05] <ijuma> but still, there's no way to say which one is for which builder
[18:12:58] <ijuma> slango: i think so
[18:13:10] <ijuma> have you tried right-click toolbar and customize perspective?
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[18:16:59] <slango> ijuma, yes, but apparently I'm stupid, because I have no idea how to use that
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[18:18:07] <ijuma> slango: eclipse is probably stupid ;)
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[18:19:45] <ijuma> slango: did you go to the Commands tab and click on SVN?
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[18:20:30] <ijuma> it seems like you get a menu for SVN operations, but only checkout in the toolbar
[18:20:34] <ijuma> that's a bit odd
[18:23:13] <rcjsuen> ls
[18:23:14] <rcjsuen> whoops
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[18:24:08] <slango> ijuma, I don't even seem to have a commands tab?
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[18:24:58] <ijuma> slango: did you do right-click toolbar and customize perspective? What is your eclipse version?
[18:25:15] <slango> ijuma, sorry, I'm there
[18:26:07] <slango> well, having it in the toolbar is better than nothing, though still not ideal
[18:27:00] <ijuma> slango: you could file a bug report
[18:27:20] <ijuma> slango: but why do you need that anyway? Isn't it as easy to right-click project -> team and operation you need?
[18:27:25] <ijuma> personally i rely on the synchronize view
[18:27:30] <ijuma> that's even easier imho
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[18:28:24] <chris_hat_irc> hello all. Can anybody tell me, how i get the rcp-javadoc into my RCP-Version von Eclipse?
[18:28:52] <slango> ijuma, dunno... I'm working on an in-house project with a two man team, and I'm making very, very frequent commits.
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[18:29:29] <slango> and, though it's almost certainly a bad idea, I am using SVN to syncronize with my testing server as well
[18:29:59] <slango> so commit/update are far more frequent than they normally should be
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[18:30:19] <ijuma> i just don't see how the toolbar makes it faster
[18:30:35] <ijuma> but that's probably because i have the synchronize view always open in my set-up
[18:32:11] <Pille456> Hi. I've a little problem with eclipse fedora. im using fedora 8 (64bit) with eclipse and icedtea. everytime i try to run a program (e.g. "hello world") it returns "Error: Could not find the main class.
[18:32:11] <Pille456> Error: A JNI error has occurred, please check your installation and try again". Any ideas?
[18:33:55] <rcjsuen> Pille456: Better talk to the Fedora guys.
[18:34:02] <rcjsuen> Or get Eclipse from eclipse.org.
[18:34:05] <rcjsuen> and use a supported jre
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[18:35:35] <Pille456> i tried it from eclipse.org, without effect. supported jre could be hard. i cant install suns java...
[18:36:20] <rcjsuen> Define "can't"
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[18:36:55] <Pille456> hmm - i installed it and it was working but then eclipse did not do anything
[18:37:02] <rcjsuen> "did not do anything"?
[18:37:03] <rcjsuen> Hang?
[18:37:30] <Pille456> hmm, no, error was something like: int: f4240
[18:38:04] <rcjsuen> never heard of that one
[18:38:43] <Pille456> yeha, therefore i was "happy" to have an error, which was more known
[18:39:39] <rcjsuen> So what happened
[18:39:41] <rcjsuen> one day you started Eclipse
[18:39:44] <rcjsuen> and it just stopped working?
[18:40:44] <Pille456> no. a few weeks ago i switched from windows to fedora. then i installed eclipse and the errors started
[18:41:16] <rcjsuen> <Pille456> hmm - i installed it and it was working but then eclipse did not do anything
[18:41:16] <rcjsuen> i'm referring to that ^
[18:42:31] <Pille456> ah ;) okay. my first installed of eclipse did not work at all (it did not even start). so i reinstalled it and then it started. so i defined a workspace and started a new project
[18:42:44] <Pille456> with new class and the whole stuff
[18:42:58] <Pille456> installation*
[18:43:34] <chris_hat_irc> how do I get the swt javadoc into my eclipse?
[18:44:52] <chris_hat_irc> or any javadoc of a plugin
[18:45:38] <mohbana> chris_hat_irc, i'd like to know aswell
[18:46:43] <rcjsuen> chris_hat_irc: You mean javadoc or source code? They're two different things.
[18:47:39] <chris_hat_irc> rcjsuen: the javadoc. at the moment i have to look in the online api and that is time-wasting.
[18:48:04] <rcjsuen> so you want to look at it from Help > Help Contents?
[18:49:09] <rcjsuen> Or are you talking about in content assist
[18:49:40] <chris_hat_irc> rcjsuen: at the moment I only see the functions and attributs of an i.e. RCP form object. But I want to know, what that does. My Eclipse is telling me: "Note: This element has no attached javadoc...".
[18:50:03] <rcjsuen> then it wants javadoc/source attached
[18:50:27] <chris_hat_irc> rcjsuen: how do a attach it?
[18:50:46] <rcjsuen> you get the source
[18:50:47] <Pille456> thanks rcjsuen ;) I dont know what happend, but i "played" a bit with run options and now it worked ;)
[18:50:47] <rcjsuen> hit F3
[18:50:51] <rcjsuen> click 'Attach the source'
[18:50:54] <rcjsuen> or whatever that button is
[18:50:57] <rcjsuen> and attach a zip file / whatever
[18:51:09] <chris_hat_irc> where do i get the zip-file?
[18:51:38] <rcjsuen> I think the SWT website says something about that.
[18:51:52] <rcjsuen> I just have the Eclipse SDK, which has it already, so that's never been a problem for me.
[18:52:02] <mohbana> is it better to attach the source/javadoc
[18:52:34] <rcjsuen> up to you, there's no real difference afaik
[18:53:25] <mohbana> chris_hat_irc, can you post the link if you find it ive been looking for it aswell
[18:53:40] <Pille456> little question: how can i build my project? just to test if everything works fine
[18:53:56] <chris_hat_irc> rcjsuen: i have the RCP-Version of eclipse and don't understand why it is a problem for me :-/
[18:54:43] <rcjsuen> chris_hat_irc: i guess that doesn't have hte source code
[18:54:59] <rcjsuen> altho technically it should http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php
[18:59:22] <chris_hat_irc> i can't find it... neither on the swt site, nor with searching for it
[18:59:38] <rcjsuen> on the site it tells you how to dev with SWT
[18:59:43] <rcjsuen> and tells you how to checkout the projects from CVS
[18:59:46] <rcjsuen> that doesn't really count I s'pose
[18:59:47] <rcjsuen> but anyway
[18:59:53] <rcjsuen> there area lso individual swt downloads
[18:59:56] <rcjsuen> those might have javadocs, i dunno
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[19:03:02] <mhaller> someone got the URL to the latest splashscreen bitmap?
[19:03:15] <pombreda> mhaller: the psd file?
[19:03:37] <mhaller> pombreda: splash.bmp would be ok too, cant find the CVS url
[19:03:42] <pombreda> mhaller: http://easyeclipse.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/easyeclipse/easyeclipse/easyeclipse/org.nexb.easyeclipse.releng/branding/readme.txt
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[19:03:53] <pombreda> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.platform/EclipseSplash_3.2.psd
[19:03:58] <pombreda> for 3.2 psd of the bmp
[19:04:06] <pombreda> same loc for the splash
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[19:06:02] <pombreda> spalsh.bmp
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[19:06:31] <mhaller> ah got it thanks
[19:06:44] <pombreda> the previous rev was : http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.platform/splash.bmp?revision=1.31
[19:06:45] <pombreda> :-D
[19:06:52] <pombreda> for one nightly build at least
[19:06:57] <pombreda> or some vanity build of sorts
[19:07:02] <pombreda> :-D
[19:07:11] <mhaller> lol :)
[19:07:16] <cichlasoma> hi. is it possible to transferr all the eclipse settings from one mashine to another one with eclipse newly installed?
[19:07:54] <mhaller> cichlasoma: copy the configuration/ folder ?
[19:08:36] <cichlasoma> :-) thanks, i will try it...
[19:11:24] <pombreda> cichlasoma: export the prefs on one import on the other is safer
[19:11:29] <pombreda> but you will get only the prefs
[19:11:46] <pombreda> copying the config folder is dangerous unless you know what you do
[19:12:03] <mohbana> where are all the settings for Prefs -> General -> Appearance kept? i.e. the fotns etc
[19:13:47] <pombreda> mohbana: most likely in the workspace/.metadata some places such as:
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[19:14:58] <cichlasoma> pombreda: i´ve coppied the whole configuration directory, and unfortunetaly, i get heaps of errors when trying to start eclipse again... :-(
[19:15:26] <pombreda> cichlasoma: sure
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[19:15:30] <pombreda> of course dude!
[19:15:42] <pombreda> LOL
[19:15:43] <pombreda> sry
[19:15:53] <pombreda> I said it was dangerous, unless you know what you do
[19:16:08] <pombreda> mhaller: thou shall now help cichlasoma :-D
[19:17:05] <mhaller> cichlasoma: whoops
[19:17:28] <mhaller> cichlasoma: well, than you should probably try the export prefs thingy first.
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[19:18:48] <cichlasoma> pombreda: (unfortunetally, i read just the first line of your answer... i´ve got what i deserve... :-)
[19:19:05] <pombreda> mohbana: most likely place is  <worspace>/.metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.ui.workbench/workbench.xml
[19:19:22] <pombreda> cichlasoma: no worries.
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[19:19:32] <pombreda> cichlasoma: exit eclipse
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[19:20:05] <pombreda> then in the configuration area keep only: config.ini
[19:20:08] <pombreda> delete the rest
[19:20:08] <cichlasoma> pombreda i´d have to start first..
[19:20:15] <pombreda> that will resotire mostly a clean eclipse
[19:20:23] <pombreda> *restore
[19:20:28] <cichlasoma> it doesn´t start
[19:20:30] <pombreda> mostly that is
[19:20:47] <mhaller> omg what did I do
[19:21:12] <pombreda> :-D
[19:21:14] <pombreda> :-DD
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[19:22:25] <cichlasoma> i guess, reinstalling eclipse wouldn´t be the worst idea..
[19:23:18] <pombreda> yep
[19:23:31] <pombreda> cichlasoma: but deleteing the bits as explained above will work too
[19:24:03] <pombreda> cichlasoma: in the configuration area keep only: config.ini ,  delete the rest
[19:24:46] <pombreda> mohbana: but that is not something you want to temper with either :-P
[19:25:04] <pombreda> mohbana: unless you know what you are doing too :-P
[19:26:43] <cichlasoma> one uninstalls eclipse just by deleting its folder?
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[19:29:19] <pombreda> cichlasoma: mostly
[19:29:22] <pombreda> with care
[19:29:25] <masterflexor> in eclipse 3.3.2, where can I set the file endings to unix mode?
[19:29:32] <pombreda> make sure you doi not have a workspace store there
[19:29:37] <pombreda> which is unlikly
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[19:30:05] <pombreda> masterflexor: File/convert line delimter to -> unix
[19:30:46] <pombreda> and prefs/general/workspace/new text file delimiter
[19:31:08] <masterflexor> pombreda, ah. Thanks
[19:31:12] <pombreda> that will take care of the current state and future state
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[19:31:55] <pombreda> masterflexor: this can also be ste on a project by prioject in a project properties/resource
[19:32:25] <pombreda> masterflexor: and when done that way guarantees that the settings willl be shared in the VCS you sue with the rest of the team
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[19:33:25] <chris_hat_irc> someone questioned me about the swt source: http://www.eclipse.org/swt/faq.php#swtsource
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[19:44:42] <robot_jesus> is there a way to configure eclipse so that refactoring occurs across projects, would a working set do that ?
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[19:45:09] <rcjsuen> Shouldn't it do it already?
[19:45:15] <rcjsuen> When I rename a class all references gets renamed.
[19:45:25] <rcjsuen> Although that's not really "refactoring" per se but anyway.
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[19:46:31] <robot_jesus> hmm let me test
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[19:54:16] <pombreda> robot_jesus: unless there are no references /deps between projects
[19:54:24] <pombreda> imn which case refactoring would not knwo
[19:55:27] <ijuma> rcjsuen: how is it not refactoring? :)
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[19:56:33] <rcjsuen> ijuma: well, i meant it in terms of rearranging code pull up / push down etc
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[19:58:50] <jfalvarez> hey, question, I'm trying to in stall "Target Management Service Discovery" on Aptana, but Apatana removes the org.eclipse.jsch.core from their package, so I copy this file to the Apatana plugins folder, but seems like Aptana doesn't recognize that package, is there a way to rebuild plugins list on Eclipse or something ?
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[20:01:22] <masterflexor> pombreda, Right now the line delimiter is set to Default, but it doesn't mention what default is. Do you know?
[20:01:22] <pombreda> jfalvarez: eclipse -clean
[20:01:36] <pombreda> masterflexor: default is platofmr default
[20:01:42] <jfalvarez> pombreda: cool, thx, I'll try
[20:01:55] <masterflexor> pombreda, cool. I'm on Linux, so it should be Unix.
[20:02:01] <masterflexor> pombreda, sweet.
[20:02:06] <pombreda> :-)
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[20:06:00] <jfalvarez> hum doesn't work, stupid Aptana
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[20:07:09] <rzec> is there a way to have eclipse strip any trailing spaces/tabs when save from end of lines?
[20:07:42] <rzec> is there any way to have the project file not inside the folder where the code it?
[20:09:05] <pombreda> jfalvarez: where did you put the jsch jar? uin plugins?
[20:09:12] <pombreda> *in the plugins folder?
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[20:09:25] <jfalvarez> pombreda: yes
[20:09:26] <pombreda> rzec: anyedit
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[20:10:25] <pombreda> rzec: linked folders
[20:10:43] <pombreda> for answer to 1 and 2 respectively
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[20:11:39] <pombreda> jfalvarez: aptana is known not to play by the rules :-P
[20:11:46] <jfalvarez> indeed
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[20:12:09] <jfalvarez> i just need sftp support but i not going to pay 99dls for that
[20:12:11] <jfalvarez> :D
[20:12:15] <pombreda> :-D
[20:12:23] <pombreda> jfalvarez: there is aslo eclipsesftp
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[20:12:35] <pombreda> but dsdp tm should work fine imho
[20:12:47] <pombreda> try to intsall aptana on top aof a full eclipse sdk
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[20:12:52] <jfalvarez> well the zend studio for eclipse use Target Management Service Discovery
[20:13:00] <jfalvarez> nice plugin, sftp, shell, etc
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[20:13:12] <pombreda> jfalvarez: and fwiw I still have that project to fork apatan there:
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[20:14:04] <pombreda> http://cocorails.ortg and http://bananapeel.org
[20:14:34] <pombreda> jfalvarez: I just did not have enough time to put out a build
[20:14:44] <pombreda> but that is a reasonably recent EPL'ed patana
[20:14:46] <jfalvarez> nice
[20:14:48] <pombreda> aptana
[20:14:56] <pombreda> in fact the last EPL'ed aptana
[20:15:03] <pombreda> help is welcomed
[20:15:12] <jfalvarez> cool
[20:15:15] <pombreda> that is right on the bottom of p[riority stack for me
[20:15:22] <pombreda> *right now
[20:15:23] <pombreda> for me
[20:16:04] <pombreda> jfalvarez: but teh code is there ready :-P http://teretere.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/teretere/trunk/
[20:17:24] <jfalvarez> nkice
[20:17:28] <jfalvarez> *nice
[20:18:40] <ijuma> pombreda: what is at the top?
[20:18:47] <pombreda> jfalvarez: and also includes the sftp support http://teretere.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/teretere/trunk/banana/trunk/plugins/com.aptana.ide.syncing/ before i became commercila
[20:19:07] <pombreda> ijuma: at the top.... is atm many customer projects
[20:19:15] <pombreda> ijuma: and always easyeclipse
[20:19:21] <ijuma> pombreda: sounds good
[20:19:35] <eidolon> hey folks, any idea why a project i'm working on no longer has "Run packaging..." as an option to automatically invoke ant build on packaging_build.xml ?  any way to re-enable it?  (i have to go to my packaging_build.xml script by hand now, and right click, run as, ant build....
[20:19:41] <ijuma> pombreda: have you worked out if/how p2 will affect easyeclipse?
[20:19:47] <pombreda> ijuma: I have that funny inclination to spend more time with paying customers
[20:19:51] <eidolon> note, i was using easyeclipse 1.mumble, i've moved to using europa.
[20:19:59] <ijuma> pombreda: unbelievable!
[20:20:00] <ijuma> ;)
[20:20:10] <pombreda> ijuma: :-)
[20:20:20] <pombreda> eidolon: :-) fair enough
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[20:20:32] <pombreda> cannot polease every one all the times
[20:20:35] <pombreda> *please
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[20:21:17] <ijuma> some people prefer it hard instead of easy :)
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[20:21:28] <pombreda> ymmv :-P
[20:21:40] <pombreda> ijuma: about p2, yes
[20:22:02] <pombreda> there are 2 sides: one getting rid of features, whichj should be easy since we generate those
[20:22:03] <ijuma> pombreda: cool
[20:22:21] <pombreda> there are 2 sides: second the installer is still something not handled by p2
[20:22:35] * eidolon waits til ya'll are done geeking :)
[20:22:40] <pombreda> :-D
[20:23:08] <pombreda> ijuma: that is p2 is not able to bootstrap itself
[20:23:18] <pombreda> no natives
[20:23:32] <pombreda> hence you need java
[20:23:35] <ijuma> eidolon: i don't know why there's no "Run packaging..." is not there, but you can assign a shortcut for "Run Last External Tool" or something like that
[20:23:41] <pombreda> therefore an installer still makes sense
[20:23:46] <ijuma> eidolon: which is better than right-click, etc.
[20:23:48] <eidolon> ijuma, errrr.  okay.  how?  :)
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[20:24:25] <ijuma> eidolon: go to keys in preferences, and make sure to show not used keybindings
[20:24:41] <eidolon> hang on.
[20:24:42] <ijuma> eidolon: then type some of the words in the filter
[20:24:44] <eidolon> heh
[20:24:46] <eidolon> hang on :)
[20:24:46] <ijuma> pombreda: i see
[20:25:22] <eidolon> aha.  i can just do alt-r+e<enter>
[20:25:24] <eidolon> that works fine.
[20:26:03] <ijuma> great
[20:26:12] <pombreda> ijuma: ijuma the other thing is that having a pass downalod + install (even in a p2 context) still makes sense
[20:26:33] <pombreda> and updates can after that be p2 installed
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[20:27:40] <ijuma> pombreda: indeed, I was curious if it made things easier or your process was already pretty good as is.
[20:27:49] <ijuma> pombreda: do you guys use pack200?
[20:27:56] <pombreda> not yet
[20:28:07] <pombreda> bandwidth is still manageable
[20:28:14] <ijuma> ok
[20:28:15] <pombreda> even with 200GB /day
[20:28:27] <pombreda> and 6 Tb/month
[20:28:48] <ijuma> one of the nice things about the p2 installer is that it handles the pack200 thing for apps that are more sensitive to size (e.g. rssowl)
[20:28:49] <pombreda> and injecting any post proedcssing in installation is a source of brittleness potentially
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[20:28:58] <ijuma> pombreda: 6TB, not bad ;)
[20:29:41] <pombreda> ijuma:  but in the end, yes p200 is the way to go, and seems to have shown it can deliver stable enough on a large scale for sure
[20:30:44] <masterflexor> Is there a shortcut to go to the next line and add a semicolon at the end of the current line? Shift+Enter almost does it, but it doesn't add the semi-colon :(
[20:31:03] <ijuma> ;
[20:31:06] <ijuma> oops
[20:31:13] <pombreda> lol
[20:31:15] <ijuma> what about just ; followed by enter?
[20:31:28] <ijuma> if you're using the smart mode, it adds it to the end right?
[20:31:30] <pombreda> yes that is the support key combination
[20:31:39] <pombreda> *supported
[20:31:42] <pombreda> ;+enter
[20:32:16] <pombreda> actually the key combo is a bit more complex: end+;+enter
[20:32:29] <pombreda> that is the offcila one
[20:32:35] <masterflexor> ijuma, Eclipse already has code completion. If you were to do it manually (which I'm currently doing) you have to navigate to the end, add the semicolon and enter.
[20:32:40] <pombreda> masterflexor: sry for being an arse :-)
[20:32:48] <ijuma> masterflexor: not here
[20:32:56] <ijuma> i simply type ";" and then <enter>
[20:33:00] <ijuma> eclipse does the right thing
[20:33:07] <masterflexor> pombreda, you helped me ealier. You can get away with it this time :)
[20:33:11] <ijuma> but I am using the smart semi-colon mode
[20:33:18] <ijuma> for jdt
[20:33:47] <masterflexor> ijuma, it doesn't work for me.
[20:33:54] <masterflexor> ijuma, I'm using PDT
[20:34:03] <ijuma> masterflexor: ok, that's a different matter :)
[20:34:10] * ijuma doesn't use PDT
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[20:34:21] <pombreda> and I use phpeclipse
[20:34:23] <masterflexor> ijuma, it uses the same editor, doesn't it?
[20:34:27] <ijuma> masterflexor: nope
[20:34:32] <pombreda> masterflexor: not exactly
[20:34:42] <masterflexor> ah. Darn.
[20:34:56] <jfalvarez> masterflexor: is DT fine ? I mean, Aptana have greate things
[20:35:04] <jfalvarez> *PDT
[20:35:20] <pombreda> jfalvarez: use phpeclipse
[20:35:26] <masterflexor> I'm switching from vim. Having so manuver my hands so far from the home row is not that cool.
[20:35:45] <masterflexor> jfalvarez, yeah, PDT is working sweet. I've been only using it for 2 days, though.
[20:36:02] <jfalvarez> hahaha me too, gVim + WinSCP, my master IDE for Windoze +o(
[20:36:08] <masterflexor> jfalvarez, you need a pretty recent version of Java and Eclipse, though. Like, cutting edge versions.
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[20:36:30] <pombreda> masterflexor: try http://vimplugin.sourceforge.net/wiki/pmwiki.php or weirder that: http://eclim.sourceforge.net/
[20:37:08] <jfalvarez> masterflexor: I have PDT, but I don't see something like drag and drop html buttons and things like that, like Zend Studio for Eclipse
[20:37:23] <jfalvarez> PDT doesn't have that kind of things right ?
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[20:37:40] <jfalvarez> Aptana have it :'( and jQuery support
[20:37:42] <jfalvarez> :'(
[20:37:43] <masterflexor> jfalvarez, I don't think so. I think is just for editing source code.
[20:38:12] <masterflexor> pombreda, thanks for those links!
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[20:40:37] <masterflexor> pombreda, You're right. eclim is weird! Eclipse inside Vim?
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[20:40:55] <pulpfiction> does anyone have the eclipse icon in a svg format?
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[20:41:54] <jammanbo> Simple one: I use Aptana/RadRails. Some rails tasks require binaries that have been installed in weird locations. Where do I go to tell Eclipse to look in those paths for the binaries?
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[20:47:55] <pombreda> pulpfiction: the closest would be psd afaik
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[20:49:26] <toste> hey
[20:49:34] <toste> i am trying to install eDatabase plugin
[20:49:44] <toste> it says Requested operation cannot be performed because it would invalidate the current configuration. See details for more information.
[20:49:44] <toste>   EclipseDatabase (1.9.7.20070709) requires feature "org.apache.xerces.feature (2.8.0)", or compatible.
[20:50:15] <jfalvarez> heheh i hate Aptana people now :\
[20:50:18] <toste> but i do have xerces :/
[20:50:37] <usuario_2__> hi
[20:50:47] <toste> org.apache.xerces_2.8.0.v200606131651
[20:50:47] <usuario_2__> what is used to make uml diagrams in eclipse?
[20:50:56] <toste> EMF
[20:51:01] <toste> eclipse modeling framework
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[20:51:13] <toste> but there is omondo, eUML2, together
[20:51:30] <usuario_2__> um
[20:51:31] <toste> posedion
[20:51:51] <masterflexor> toste, is poseidon eclipse based?
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[20:52:07] <robot_jesus> they have an eclipse plugin
[20:52:18] <usuario_2__> what is recommended?
[20:52:29] <toste> omondo or eUML2
[20:52:45] <masterflexor> toste, emf is not good?
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[20:53:00] <usuario_2__> thanks toste :)
[20:53:10] <toste> well, yeah, but there is no code generation
[20:53:49] <masterflexor> toste, I see. Thanks for the info.
[20:53:53] <toste> anyways, i am actually looking for a good plugin to do : database modeling -> ddl generation
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[20:54:50] <toste> there is azzurri clay, but i think i have to buy a license for oracle :(
[20:56:23] <pombreda> toste: closest as open source would be http://dbschemaviewer.sourceforge.net/
[20:56:26] <pombreda> but old
[20:56:58] <pombreda> and DTP visual sql query builder may help there too
[20:57:01] <pombreda> not 100% sure
[20:57:49] <toste> bah, ill end up using rational rose :(
[20:58:30] <pombreda> actually you neeed http://amateras.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/fswiki_en/wiki.cgi?page=AmaterasERD
[20:58:50] <pombreda> toste: that should make it
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[20:58:56] <pombreda> amateras is in general AWESOME
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[20:59:21] <tsrepadmin> hi, could anybody explain me this error: org.eclipse.jface.text.BadLocationException
[20:59:26] <tsrepadmin> please?
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[20:59:48] <pulpfiction> pombreda, i found it :) http://www.bearfruit.org/blog/2007/08/09/eclipse-svg-icons
[20:59:51] <tsrepadmin> ~badlocationexception
[20:59:53] <Alkarian> hi
[21:00:48] <pombreda> tsrepadmin: BadLocationException
[21:00:58] <pombreda> tsrepadmin: ~BadLocationException
[21:01:05] <pombreda> http://help.eclipse.org/help33/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/jface/text/BadLocationException.html
[21:01:15] <pombreda> a bug
[21:01:30] <toste> wow, great, thanks !
[21:01:47] <pombreda> :-)
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[21:08:23] <jfalvarez> bye
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[21:12:07] <tsrepadmin> pombreda: thx, and any ideas how to debug what is throwing this Exception ;-) ?
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[21:29:58] <pombreda> tsrepadmin: set a breakpoint on Java exception fileter on that one
[21:30:02] <deufrai> hi all. I'm looking for some help regarding CDT4 on Eclipse 3.2.2
[21:30:14] <pombreda> I think it needs 33 ?
[21:30:24] <deufrai> yeah, sorry, misstyped it
[21:30:26] <deufrai> 3.3.2
[21:31:05] <deufrai> I would like to change the 'new class' dialog behaviour. So default names for .h .cpp files don't start with an uppercase letter
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[21:36:41] <tsrepadmin> pombreda: i can set breakpoints abstract way???
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[21:38:54] <rcjsuen> tsrepadmin: what the hell is "abstract way"? o.O
[21:39:20] <tsrepadmin> abstract programming
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[21:39:59] <tsrepadmin> so if you set an breakpoint, which stops the compilerprocess everytime there is fired a BadLocationException, this is abstract
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[21:40:57] <rcjsuen> you can set exception breakpoints, yes
[21:41:11] <tsrepadmin> where?
[21:41:12] <rcjsuen> i don't know what you mean by "stop the compiler process" though
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[21:41:28] <tsrepadmin> interpreter, not compiler :-)
[21:41:39] <benny`work> tsrepadmin, breakpoint view, first action from right
[21:41:42] <rcjsuen> in the Breakpoints view i believe
[21:43:26] <tsrepadmin> I found it, but it takes no effect
[21:44:04] <tsrepadmin> maybe i need more sources
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[21:45:13] <rcjsuen> Don't you have a stack trace anyway?
[21:45:18] <rcjsuen> You could try in a simple hello world I s'pose.
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[21:46:40] <tsrepadmin> Yes I have a stacktrace, but I still need to know what's happening there
[21:47:12] <rcjsuen> I mean, can't you go to where the exception is being thrown and just put a breakpoint there?
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[21:47:32] <tsrepadmin> I develop a plugin and get this badlocationexception because there is an Action named wrong I guess, but I cannot find out without debugging more deep
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[21:48:01] <tsrepadmin> I set a breakpoint there, but the real "throwing" is at a place where i don't have the sources
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[21:48:07] <tsrepadmin> will download them
[21:48:14] <rzec> pombreda: so i could store all my project in one folder(with a folder for each project) and link code directory home?
[21:48:23] <rcjsuen> Action named wrong?
[21:48:33] <rcjsuen> BadLocationExceptions have nothing to do with IActions.
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[21:57:54] <tsrepadmin> rcjsuen: well but the error comes after this breakpoint: 		insertAction = new InsertSnippetAction();
[21:58:07] <rcjsuen> oh
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[21:58:12] <rcjsuen> I guess InsertSnippetAction is something special
[21:58:15] <rcjsuen> i thot it was some generic Action
[21:58:21] <tsrepadmin> class InsertSnippetAction extends Action {
[21:58:22] <rcjsuen> ~api InsertSnippetAction
[21:58:23] <KOS-MOS> No javadocs found for class 'InsertSnippetAction'.
[21:58:37] <rcjsuen> tsrepadmin: Well, whatever that class is must be doing something in its own constructor then.
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[21:59:10] <tsrepadmin> org.eclipse.jface.actions.Action
[21:59:31] <rcjsuen> I mean InsertSnippetAction's constructor.
[21:59:53] <tsrepadmin> InsertsnippetAction has no own contructor. Itt just overrides the "run" method
[22:00:20] <rcjsuen> what is this InsertSnippetAction
[22:00:38] <rcjsuen> pastebin your sdtack trace
[22:01:43] <rcjsuen> org.eclipse.jface knows nothing about org.eclipse.jface.text so I find it highly unlikely that Action is throwing BadLocationExceptions.
[22:02:07] <tsrepadmin> http://pastebin.com/m209ad9bc
[22:02:32] <tsrepadmin> org.eclipse.jafce.text is an own project
[22:02:57] <benny`work> lol
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[22:03:26] <rcjsuen> The error looks like it's something totally different.
[22:03:31] <rcjsuen> java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.eclipse.jface.text.BadLocationException
[22:03:52] <rcjsuen> It can't find a class, which isn't related to an Action.
[22:04:11] <rcjsuen> Sounds like your classpath is borked.
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[22:04:32] <tsrepadmin> borked?
[22:05:15] <masterflexor> Has anyone here used the viPlugin? at www.satokar.com
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[22:05:22] <rcjsuen> screwed / whatever
[22:05:27] <tsrepadmin> ah
[22:05:45] <tsrepadmin> well, but wouldn't there be errors in the code shown then?
[22:05:58] <kernfreak> does eclipse have a gui designer, googled for it with mixed results?
[22:06:14] <masterflexor> would it be extremily difficult to create a  new keybindings for editing source code to emulate vim?
[22:06:24] <rcjsuen> tsrepadmin: This is a runtime probably (as you can imagine).
[22:06:48] <rcjsuen> you wrote that view yourself, right?
[22:06:52] <rcjsuen> com.whatever
[22:07:07] <masterflexor> Where could I start looking at something like that?
[22:07:30] <tsrepadmin> com.wahtever?
[22:07:40] <tsrepadmin> oh yes
[22:07:44] <benny`work> tsrepadmin, check your launch config and include jface.text
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[22:08:11] <tsrepadmin> but it is at the moment just a plugin someone put in the internet as a tutorial.
[22:08:18] <rcjsuen> yes, what benny`work said is another potential problem
[22:08:20] <tsrepadmin> so normally it should work
[22:08:51] <rcjsuen> well, in times like these either a) the tutorial wasn't thorough enough or b) you missed a step
[22:10:01] <tsrepadmin> i did the whole tutorial for learning, and after that i deletend my source and downloaded the final from the tutorial (because there are some more functions, not really related to plugin dev)
[22:12:00] <kernfreak> anyone know what ui framework eclipse uses
[22:12:34] <rcjsuen> kernfreak: by ui framework you mean like Swing?
[22:12:45] <kernfreak> swing, swt ect
[22:12:58] <rcjsuen> kernfreak: it uses swt, as you'd imagine
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[22:16:56] <masterflexor> Is it possible to get a list of files that I've modified withing my project and be able to click on them to open them
[22:17:16] <rcjsuen> wha
[22:17:18] <masterflexor> Something like a filter that showns only modified files in the file explorer
[22:17:20] <rcjsuen> how do you define "modified"
[22:17:26] <rcjsuen> You mean against SCM?
[22:17:35] <masterflexor> rcjsuen, again subversion.
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[22:18:22] <masterflexor> rcjsuen, it's pretty cool. The file explore shows '>' along directories and files that have been modified, so it's half way there.
[22:18:46] <benny`work> masterflexor, team > synchronize
[22:18:46] <rcjsuen> I don't think what you want is possible.
[22:18:49] <rcjsuen> Mylyn kinda does it
[22:19:04] <rcjsuen> 'Synchronize' view kind of works
[22:19:12] <rcjsuen> but then you'd see diffs i think instead of opening the file on double-click ;p
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[22:20:01] <usuario_2_______> Anyone using a Continuous Integration System in conjunction eclipse?
[22:20:31] <usuario_2_______> I'm trying TeamCity
[22:20:34] <masterflexor> Synchronize is not really what I'm looking for.
[22:20:43] <masterflexor> Is for files that I've changed locally.
[22:21:07] <benny`work> usuario_2_______, using ci but only with a little plugin to show me the status of the builds. if you need a big solution take a look at jazz.net
[22:21:20] <masterflexor> If for, let's say, I change 100 files, close eclipse, and then open it again. It's tough to browse through the files again.
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[22:21:38] <rcjsuen> masterflexor: Use Mylyn then I s'pose.
[22:21:53] <rcjsuen> this "i lost my context" thing sounds like you want Mylyn
[22:22:17] <masterflexor> oh, I'ver nerver heard of Mylyn.
[22:23:27] <pombreda> "(1:48:01 PM) rzec: pombreda: so i could store all my project in one folder(with a folder for each project) and link code directory home?" -> yes
[22:23:45] <pombreda> possibly
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[22:25:54] <masterflexor> Is eclipse's internal browser based on Firefox code, by any chance?
[22:27:07] <kernfreak> about swt, is there gui builder for eclipse?
[22:27:20] <rcjsuen> ~tell kernfreak about gui
[22:27:20] <KOS-MOS> kernfreak: Looking for a Java GUI designer plug-in for Eclipse? Go take a look at the *free* Visual Editor (http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE), Instantiations' *commercial* WindowBuilder (http://www.instantiations.com/windowbuilderpro/), and/or Jigloo (http://www.cloudgarden.com/jigloo/) , which is *free for non-commercial use*.
[22:27:43] <rcjsuen> kernfreak: and there are some other commercial solutions i believe
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[22:27:51] <rcjsuen> masterflexor: It uses Firefox on Linux
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[22:29:03] <masterflexor> rcjsuen, wow, so that browser that's displayed like another window is in fact Firefox? That's friggin awesome!
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[22:29:26] <rcjsuen> I don't know what you mean by "another window" necessarily, but okay ;)
[22:29:57] <masterflexor> rcjsuen, in a tab, like a php-editor , or a java editor
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[22:30:27] <rcjsuen> yes, that is Firefox
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[22:31:05] <masterflexor> rcjsuen, is it what I have installed or does it come with eclipse?
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[22:31:52] <rcjsuen> It uses whatever you have.
[22:32:00] <rcjsuen> No Eclipse doesn't come with Firefox/Mozilla.
[22:32:05] <rcjsuen> That'd make things rather large I s'pose.
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[22:32:35] <masterflexor> rcjsuen, omg, That's amazing to me. I'm soooo loving this. I can belive it found it by itself.
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[22:39:46] <jammanbo> Does anyone know how to set the PATH that eclipse searches for binaries???
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[22:41:12] <rcjsuen> jammanbo: ./eclipse -vm /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02/bin/jvaa
[22:41:14] <rcjsuen> jammanbo: ./eclipse -vm /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02/bin/java
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[22:41:19] <rcjsuen> is probably what yu're looking for
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[22:50:54] <FlaPer87> does any of you use xdebug?
[22:52:48] <masterflexor> rcjsuen, do you happen to know if mylyn supports MySQL's Eventum as a task connector?
[22:53:14] <rcjsuen> masterflexor: No idea really, I am not a mylyn user.
[22:53:22] <rcjsuen> I think they have some info on the wiki
[22:53:27] <masterflexor> rcjsuen, thanks
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[22:56:47] <spackest> howdy, just wondering how I can hook when my eclipse app exits?  something analogous to IStartup
[22:58:06] <rcjsuen> i think there's some workbench listener or something
[22:58:11] <rcjsuen> you can try to listen to preShutdown or something
[22:58:14] <rcjsuen> ~javadocs
[22:58:19] <rcjsuen> ~javadoc
[22:58:20] <KOS-MOS> The Eclipse Platform APIs are at - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/index.html
[22:58:48] <rcjsuen> ~api IWorkbenchListener
[22:58:48] <KOS-MOS> org.eclipse.ui.IWorkbenchListener - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/ui/IWorkbenchListener.html
[22:59:26] <spackest> looks great, thanks
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[23:36:43] <pombreda> all you osgi experts out there...
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