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[00:51:30] <SuperRoach> hello there
[00:51:59] <SuperRoach> Has anyone had any success installing sql explorer? or can recommend a plugin for sql goodness
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[01:01:55] <nitind> SuperRoach: Is the SQL Explorer part of the Data Tools Platform?
[01:03:02] <SuperRoach> not that i know of, nitind, i'll check
[01:04:40] <SuperRoach> http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Web_Links-index-req-viewlink-cid-684.html I'm not sure going by the reference link
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[01:23:35] <SuperRoach> anyone? trying to install the sql explorer plugin. It appears it's url is empty
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[01:31:05] <SuperRoach> how do I restart eclipse with the clean option?
[01:32:06] <mef> in evil way ?
[01:32:11] <mef> flash eh workspace
[01:32:18] <mef> but im not sure
[01:33:58] <SuperRoach> that done it :)
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[02:27:34] <rcjsuen> ~tell SuperRoach about clean
[02:27:34] <KOS-MOS> SuperRoach: Please try restarting Eclipse with the '-clean' argument. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_have_just_installed_a_plug-in_but_I_do_not_see_any_indication_of_it_in_my_workspace._What_do_I_do.3F
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[02:45:49] <Copter> Hi :p
[02:45:51] <Copter> Anyone knows how can I open 2 console windows in eclipse? Like 1 for client and 1 for server?
[02:47:20] <rcjsuen> wha
[02:47:55] <Copter> I have 2 objects in eclipse, each has a main. and a run configuration. 1 client 1 server. I wanna run them simultaniosuuly
[02:47:56] <Copter> :p
[02:48:17] <Copter> instead of opening 2 command prompts and compiling and running on each
[02:48:51] <ijuma> i wonder about that actually
[02:48:54] <ijuma> is it possible?
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[02:49:34] <ijuma> Copter: you can certainly have many console windows. I don't know if you can have them _visible_ simultaneously
[02:50:10] <ijuma> rcjsuen: do you know?
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[02:52:08] <rcjsuen> i think so
[02:52:13] <rcjsuen> you should be able to make a new console view
[02:53:10] <zx|cafe> sure you can plug into the console in many interesting ways
[02:53:28] <rcjsuen> i don't have eclipse open to check
[02:53:32] <ijuma> i don't mean programmatically
[02:53:48] <ijuma> when i open a new console view, it just uses the already open one
[02:54:16] <rcjsuen> nope
[02:54:17] <rcjsuen> i get two
[02:54:28] <rcjsuen> i can get asw many as i want
[02:54:31] <nitind> ijuma: With New Console View, the action from that dropdown local toolbar menu? I get two as well.
[02:54:33] <rcjsuen> and pretty sure this has been there since 3.2 at least
[02:54:45] <ijuma> weird
[02:54:48] * ijuma tries again
[02:55:01] <ijuma> ah
[02:55:02] <ijuma> doh
[02:55:10] <ijuma> Copter: there's your answer ;)
[02:55:57] <Copter> im srry still cant find it :P
[02:56:47] <Copter> oh
[02:56:48] <Copter> found
[02:56:49] <Copter> !
[02:56:50] <Copter> thx
[02:57:45] <Copter> But now the same output is shown on 2 consoles :p
[02:57:57] <Copter> I guess what I want is to bind one console for each object and its main
[02:58:30] <Copter> is it possible?
[02:58:30] <ijuma> Copter: just launch your application and it will allocate a console
[02:58:41] <Copter> ijuma: yea but it allocates both it seems
[02:58:52] <ijuma> Copter: but you can choose which one is visible on each
[02:59:09] <ijuma> i don't know if you can do binding, but you can make do with manually choosing imho
[02:59:34] <ijuma> but then I have always used a single console. I didn't even know you could have two separate console views :)
[03:00:01] <Copter> Well I went to run configuration and theres allocate console v/x button there
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[03:06:20] <real0ne> there is a pyhton or ruby p?ckage for eclipse?
[03:09:12] <rcjsuen> You mean plug-ins?
[03:11:30] <real0ne> yes:)
[03:12:43] <rcjsuen> Google would be able to answer that one easily.
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[03:14:36] <nitind> There are several choices for both, Pydev and DLTK's Ruby support come to mind.
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[03:43:54] <cleone> i have this errore when i install pydev
[03:43:56] <cleone> Pydev Mylyn Integration (0.3.0) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.mylyn (2.0.0.v20070627-1400)", or later version.
[03:46:03] <rcjsuen> ~tell cleone about remove-deps
[03:46:03] <KOS-MOS> cleone: Wondering why you have to install another plug-in? Maybe you don't actually have to! See http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_not_install_a_plug-in.27s_extraneous_dependency_when_I.27m_in_the_Update_Manager.3F
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[03:49:24] <cleone> Pydev Mylyn Integration (0.3.0) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.mylyn (2.0.0.v20070627-1400)", or later version.
[03:49:33] <cleone> i have this errore
[03:49:50] <rcjsuen> cleone: Did you look at the link?
[03:49:57] <cleone> yes
[03:50:05] <cleone> but that isn't what i have
[03:50:12] <rcjsuen> cleone: Take a screenshot then
[03:50:26] <cleone> http://fr.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programmation_Python_Python_avec_Eclipse
[03:50:31] <cleone> when i make that
[03:50:35] <rcjsuen> And it wasn't really necessary for you to repeat the same sentence ;)
[03:51:00] <rcjsuen> Screenshots
[03:52:29] <cleone> where can i upload it?
[03:52:34] <rcjsuen> ~imagebin
[03:52:34] <KOS-MOS> Please upload your screenshots online - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
[03:54:13] <cleone> http://imagebin.org/14916
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[03:54:46] <rcjsuen> cleone: It's the same thing
[03:55:05] <cleone> so what i should do?
[03:55:17] <rcjsuen> cleone: The link explains it with pictures.
[03:55:26] <rcjsuen> While the plug-ins in question aren't identical, the steps are the same.
[03:57:56] <cleone> http://imagebin.ca/view/JwbgZ9K.html
[04:00:18] <cleone> rcjsuen
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[04:02:07] <rcjsuen> what is that screen
[04:02:23] <rcjsuen> cleone: What did the link I gave you say
[04:02:51] <cleone> http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_not_install_a_plug-in.27s_extraneous_dependency_when_I.27m_in_the_Update_Manager.3F
[04:03:07] <rcjsuen> cleone: yes, what did the link say
[04:03:24] <rcjsuen> "2. Expand the section by clicking on the arrow. Keep expanding until you see everything and then tick off the "additional dependencies" that you don't want."
[04:03:27] <rcjsuen> Did you click on the arrow?
[04:03:36] <rcjsuen> http://imagebin.org/14916
[04:03:38] <rcjsuen> There's an arrow
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[04:04:11] <cleone> How do I not install a plug-in's extraneous dependency when I'm in the Update Manager?
[04:04:32] <rcjsuen> The screenshots in that link make it pretty clear.
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[04:04:56] <rcjsuen> click on the arrow, and you should see other stuff
[04:05:04] <rcjsuen> then look at the screenshots, and you will see they are checkboxes
[04:05:06] <rcjsuen> so you uncheck them
[04:05:12] <rcjsuen> I don't know what else to say.
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[04:20:35] <cleone> rcjsuen ruby
[04:20:45] <cleone> i can't install it
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[04:20:49] <cleone> rdt
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[04:21:48] <rcjsuen> that's pretty vague
[04:23:22] <cleone> what daoes that mean rcjsuen
[04:23:40] <rcjsuen> as in, you haven't given us enough information
[04:23:52] <cleone> ok
[04:23:57] <cleone> wait plz
[04:23:57] <rcjsuen> that's like me telling you "my program doesn't work"
[04:24:07] <rcjsuen> you obviousloy can't help me if you know nothing
[04:24:07] <cleone> ^^
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[04:26:51] <cleone> http://imagebin.org/14919
[04:27:07] <cleone> rcjsuen http://imagebin.org/14919
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[04:28:44] <d_a_carver> cleone: looks like their site is having a problem or their update site isn't working right.
[04:29:24] <cleone> d u have any other good site?
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[04:30:30] <d_a_carver> cleon: There recommendation is to get the plugins in zip format and unzip them into your eclipse plugin folder. http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=50233
[04:31:51] <d_a_carver> cleon: you'll want to unzip to the directory where you have eclipse installed, and restart with a -clean option.
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[04:33:06] <max_at_hibernate> anyone here going to EclipseCon ? Anyone maybe even know a bit about the constraints of the smallt alks ? :)
[04:34:00] <max_at_hibernate> I forgot if smalltalks allows demo's or it all has to be slides on preconfigured machines ? eclipsecon no longer have their submission page where this were written previously.
[04:34:36] <d_a_carver> I'm giving a small talk and know it's 10 minutes max I believe.
[04:35:14] <max_at_hibernate> yes i know that part ;) but can i hook up my own laptop or not...thats basically the question ;)
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[04:37:06] <d_a_carver> I think you can use your own laptop...at least I didn't read anything before hand...I plan to get there at least 30 minutes before hand to see what is going on.
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[04:37:26] <nitind> You must use your own laptop.
[04:37:52] <d_a_carver> hope they have linux friendly...projectors...:)
[04:38:25] <max_at_hib> ah ok - then i can do what i want.
[04:39:13] <max_at_hib> and i always do preso's from my windows box...less fuzz ;) (but I do know that we did several presentations last year from linux boxes so shuold just work fine)
[04:39:30] <nitind> You should have gotten an email on the 11th.
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[04:40:31] <nitind> About there not being power strips during the short talks.
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[04:47:21] <max_at_hib> nitind, not even for the speaker ?
[04:47:36] <max_at_hib> nitind, anyway probably wont matter.
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[04:50:43] <d_a_carver> yeah, I remember seeing that email come in along with the other 300 or so I got that same day. :)
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[04:58:11] <AlphaOmega> whats a good plugin for viewing db tables?
[04:58:18] <AlphaOmega> viewing/editing
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[09:25:38] <philk_> can i provide code in a fragment that gets executed when the fragment is activated?
[09:25:51] <philk_> something like a bundle activator for fragments?
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[09:51:37] <jpospychala> philk_: i haven't heard of any way to do that. fragment can't have an activator
[09:52:24] <philk_> jpospychala: thanks! I guessed so. So I have to put platform specific code into my host-bundle, which is quite ugly.
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[09:53:32] <jpospychala> if you own host bundle, maybe from within it's activator you could find out fragments and activate them?
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[10:19:37] <ahriman`wrk> hi, can anybody answer me about MPI in eclipse?
[10:20:30] <ahriman`wrk> how to integrate InfiniBand support in my MPI build?
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[10:34:59] <philk__> jpospychala: the fragment contains only platform specific libs (for win32) since two of those libs depend on each other I have to preload one of them using System.loadLibrary(). This works great so far. But the code to load it is in the platform independend host bundles activator. I hoped I could move this code to the fragment
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[11:21:41] <philk_> is there a FTP server bundle somewhere implemented already?
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[11:38:00] <philk_> how come setting Bundle-RequiredExecutionEnvironment to J2SE-1.4 Eclipse says the container on the classpath is not a perfect match?
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[11:46:18] <nitind> philk_: Is it actually a 1.4 JRE?
[11:47:14] <philk_> nitind: nope, I have 1.5 and 1.6 installed
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[11:47:32] <philk_> but marked the 1.5 as the one to use for EE 1.4
[11:47:41] <philk_> better install a 1.4 one, right?
[11:47:55] <nitind> philk_: You got it. The best match is always the real thing.
[11:48:16] <philk_> how can I add the http://www.osgi.org/xmlns/scr/v1.0.0 to the XML Catalog so that I get content assist?
[11:49:49] <nitind> philk_: The document must still refer to the grammar somehow, but there's an extension point, org.eclipse.wst.xml.core.catalogContributions, to let you map that URI to an actual file.
[11:50:02] <nitind> Or at least an entry in your bundle.
[11:51:22] <philk_> nitind: so that schema should be included in a bundle actually?
[11:51:37] <nitind> philk_: Yes, were you under the impression that it didn't need to be?
[11:52:23] <philk_> nitind: yes I thought I can just hand Eclipse a URL where it fetches the Schema from and caches it.
[11:52:48] <nitind> philk_: It'll already do that, is the URI you mentioned not the correct URL?
[11:52:56] <philk_> nitind: I just need it during development, not during runtime
[11:53:20] <philk_> nitind: the URI is correct, where do I enter it in the preferences?
[11:53:33] <nitind> philk_: There's an XML Catalog preference page.
[11:53:35] <philk_> nitind: i am at /xml/XML Catalog
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[11:54:04] <philk_> nitind: there I have a bunch of Plugin Specific Entries and and empty User Specified Entries
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[11:54:33] <nitind> philk_: Push the Add button.
[11:54:47] <philk_> nitind: now I click "add..." and it opens a dialog that I not know what to enter
[11:55:02] <philk_> nitind: Location http://www.osgi.org/xmlns/scr/v1.0.0, but what about Key Type and Key?
[11:56:24] <nitind> philk_: I'm not sure, I've never really used it.
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[12:08:41] <philk__> nitind: managed to add it... correct URL is http://www.osgi.org/xmlns/scr/v1.0.0/scr.xsd
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[12:14:48] <philk__> I wonder if I have to have both the JDK and the JRE installed? Wouldn't be the JDK enough?
[12:15:22] <nitind> philk__: Sure.
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[12:17:59] <philk__> nitind: sure would be enough or sure need both? :)
[12:19:08] <nitind> philk__: The JDK is enough as it's usually a superset of the JRE.
[12:21:01] <philk__> nitind: thought so... why then Sun wants me to install the JRE during a JDK installation?
[12:21:15] * nitind shrugs, "you'd have to ask them"
[12:22:01] <safak> hi everyone
[12:22:12] <safak> why is bidirectinal plugin dependency not allowed ?
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[12:23:49] <canatella> hi
[12:23:57] <nitind> Because it begs the question of why they're not just one plug-in. And it's sloppy design.
[12:24:13] <canatella> is there a way to tell the compiler to avoid compilling some files ?
[12:24:39] <nitind> canatella: Which compiler?
[12:25:25] <canatella> java
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[12:25:43] <nitind> canatella: Not that I know of, other than not putting them under a Source folder.
[12:28:45] <chris_hat_irc> how can i add ui.forms to my eclipse? I Just copied the jar file to the plugins-folder of my eclipse IDE and target eclipse and added the jar to my dependencies of my projekt. There is no Error marked in my IDE. But when i start my App i get a runtimeexeption. Even if I do not execute the Funktions, that contain ui.forms-methods.
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[12:29:08] <chris_hat_irc> if i remove the dependencie, everything is working fine
[12:29:19] <chris_hat_irc> except the view with the form of course
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[12:29:56] <jpospychala> chris_hat_irc: maybe you need to run your IDE with -clean to let it know that plugins cache should be rebuilt
[12:30:03] <nitind> chris_hat_irc: If you're developing a plug-in, you add it to the plug-in manifest (MANIFEST.MF), not modify the build path yourself.
[12:30:35] <alexmart> Hi, when I try to run Eclipse on OpenSUSE 10.3 I receive this error message : JVM terminated. Exit code=1
[12:30:35] <alexmart> /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-cacao-0.97/jre/bin/java
[12:30:35] <chris_hat_irc> yes i did so
[12:30:59] <alexmart> oh my god, i'm sorry
[12:31:23] <alexmart> sorry for the paste :-s
[12:32:00] <nitind> alexmart: You probably need a 1.5 JRE, but you should also check if there's a /usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-cacao-0.97/bin/java file to use instead (no jre in the path).
[12:32:33] <chris_hat_irc> nitind: i have run my ide with the -clean param. But there is no improvement.Maybe i have got the wrong jar-version of the ui.forms?
[12:32:37] <safak> nitind: because, one plugin is legacy and the other new ;)
[12:32:54] <nitind> chris_hat_irc: That was not what I suggested.
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[12:34:14] <chris_hat_irc> nitind: sry, that paste... I already added it to my dependencies. But my application only starts, when i remove it from there
[12:34:40] <chris_hat_irc> i have the rcp-binary as my target eclipse. Why isn't ui.forms not included?
[12:35:18] <nitind> chris_hat_irc: Because anyone can add or remove plug-ins from the supplied RCP target themselves.
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[12:36:47] <chris_hat_irc> Is that the right plugin: org.eclipse.ui.forms_3.3.0.v20070511.jar ? I copied to my plugins folder of IDE/Target Eclipse
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[12:37:48] <chris_hat_irc> i am using eclipse 3.3.2
[12:38:05] <rcjsuen> philk__: FTP server bundle?
[12:38:14] <alexmart> nitind : I have 1.5 JRE , and the java file in cacao-0.97 directory..
[12:38:49] <rcjsuen> philk__: Are you on Windows?
[12:39:03] <rcjsuen> canatella: You need to exclude them from the build path.
[12:39:51] <rcjsuen> chris_hat_irc: Did you actually change your launch configuration though?
[12:40:20] <philk__> rcjsuen: yes on Windows... looking for a Java implementation of a FTP Server that is already bundled
[12:40:23] <chris_hat_irc> rcjsuen: the launch of my IDE with -clean ? yes
[12:40:42] <rcjsuen> chris_hat_irc: no, not talking about the ide, talking about your rcp app
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[12:40:58] <rcjsuen> chris_hat_irc: Eclipse already has o.e.ui.forms, you should not have to copy them around.
[12:41:08] <rcjsuen> philk__: It asks you to install a JRE because it's talking about the system itself.
[12:41:11] <nitind> alexmart: cacao-0.97 isn't a supported JRE / class library.
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[12:41:15] <rcjsuen> philk__: as in, to add it to %PATH% and such
[12:41:31] <nitind> rcjsuen: It's the RCP target.
[12:41:54] <rcjsuen> hm, i thot RCP had forms
[12:42:25] <chris_hat_irc> rcjsuen: I couldnt import org.eclipse.ui.forms.*; until i copied the jar the the pluginsfolder
[12:42:39] <rcjsuen> oic, I guess not
[12:42:41] <philk__> rcjsuen: i hope it doesnt mess with my path settings...
[12:42:42] <chris_hat_irc> rcjsuen: yes i added forms to my dependicies in my manifest
[12:42:58] <rcjsuen> chris_hat_irc: I'm talking about your launch configuration.
[12:42:59] <philk__> RCP target does *not* include forms...
[12:43:15] <rcjsuen> philk__: Well, if you didn't tell it to instlal a system JRE, it shouldn't I guess.
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[12:43:59] <chris_hat_irc> rcjsuen: thanks a lot ;)
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[12:44:12] <rcjsuen> Eh?
[12:44:35] <chris_hat_irc> rcjsuen: in the launchconfiguration the ui.forms wasn't activated.
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[12:44:49] <chris_hat_irc> rcjsuen: i thought, it is enough, if i cpy it to my jar
[12:45:18] <nitind> chris_hat_irc: Were you manually specifying the bundles before?
[12:45:22] <paulweb515> chris_hat_irc: that won't update an pre-generated launch config
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[12:45:54] <chris_hat_irc> nitind: no
[12:46:06] <chris_hat_irc> paulweb515: yes i know that now
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[12:46:34] <paulweb515> chris_hat_irc: if you created an RCP app and used the "launch" link on the overview page, it manually sets the bundles you need in your launch config
[12:48:56] <chris_hat_irc> paulweb515: good to know, i tried the "play button" of eclipse
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[13:20:28] <lazymanc> hi, i've been using eclipse with PDT for php development for a while, but i'd like to do a fresh install
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[13:21:24] <lazymanc> is there an eclipse package that just contains the core functionality (i.e. no java bits)
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[13:21:43] <dcorbin_work> Eclipse is regularly hanging on me. I'd like to take a thread dump, but I clearly am doing it wrong. This is on Linux. Anybody know how?
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[13:24:59] <nitind> lazymanc: PDT supplies an "all-in-one" from their download page that sounds exactly like what you want.
[13:26:06] <lazymanc> nitind: i've seen this but will it behave exactly like a standard eclipse package when it comes to adding other plugins like aptana / subclipse?
[13:26:26] <lazymanc> or does it remove the ability to use other perspectives etc
[13:28:27] <nitind> lazymanc: It's still Eclipse in terms of the platform, which means other plug-ins should run and there's no supression of perspectives or other contributions. But I've never tried that exact mix.
[13:28:45] <lazymanc> nitind: ok thanks, i'll give it a whirl
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[14:21:37] <JViz> does anyone know where i can find more color schemes for eclipse colorer?
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[14:33:14] <rcjsuen> ~tell dcorbin_work about deadlock
[14:33:15] <KOS-MOS> dcorbin_work: In a deadlock? http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/How_to_report_a_deadlock
[14:33:39] <dcorbin_work> Thanks
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[14:54:38] <safak> hello
[14:54:51] <rcjsuen> safak: Hi
[14:56:47] <safak> what is the difference of starting a plugin with "launch an eclipse application" in the plugin.xml web style form..;) ... and starting it as a "product". Yesterday I had difficulties including one plugin in the other because of cyclic dependencies but today I have learned that the needed plugin was referenced fromt he product instead of plugin.xml dependencies.
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[15:14:05] <safak> no idea ? ;)
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[15:17:39] <mk> I'm using subeclipse, I've pulled into a new project, but now I have the full file structure in explorer view, but only two folders in package view, and nothing else. how to fix?
[15:18:15] <rcjsuen> Eh?
[15:18:27] <rcjsuen> My first guess is that packages / output folders are being hidden.
[15:18:34] <rcjsuen> mk: Please take a screenshot.
[15:18:44] <rcjsuen> Project Explorer next to Package Explorer
[15:18:46] <mk> I click the little + on the side of my new project, and there are only two subfolders, nothing else at all
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[15:19:17] <mk> nav folder looks perfectly normal
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[15:20:18] <mk> did you still want the screen?
[15:20:23] <mk> how could I unhide?
[15:20:32] <rcjsuen> "unhide"?
[15:20:47] <rcjsuen> Yes, I still want the screenshot.
[15:21:55] <amitev> hi all
[15:22:07] <amitev> what's the idea of eclipse externalization tool?
[15:22:32] <paulweb515> amitev: to allow different languages in the UI
[15:23:21] <paulweb515> amitev: it'll take many of your strings and replace them with the correct calls (to ResourceBundle or NLS, depending)
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[15:26:48] <mk> http://aycu28.webshots.com/image/47827/2004308937769059214_rs.jpg
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[15:27:44] <rcjsuen> mk: did you try closing/reopening the project or refreshing?
[15:27:53] <mk> yep
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[15:28:16] <mk> before I closed it I had more folders available in pack view, but not all of them
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[15:30:25] <safak> how can I skip a frame in debug mode?
[15:31:11] <rcjsuen> F6?
[15:31:18] <rcjsuen> Assuming I'm reading "frame" correctyl.
[15:31:55] <safak> rcjsuen: the blue white striped thing (by default)
[15:32:17] <rcjsuen> F6
[15:32:22] <safak> ok thx
[15:33:23] <safak> well that does step over the statement actually
[15:33:45] <mk> safak, it should
[15:33:46] <nitind> F7.
[15:34:10] <nitind> Or perhaps Run to Line.
[15:34:31] <mk> you could also set a breakpoint?
[15:34:35] <rcjsuen> either F5, F6, or F7
[15:34:39] <rcjsuen> "skip" is likely F6 or F7
[15:34:54] <ijuma> or you can use ctrl-shift-alt click if you have the interesting method in sight
[15:34:55] <rcjsuen> cuz you sure ain't skipping anything with F5 ;)
[15:35:10] <rcjsuen> ijuma: that trick is awesome
[15:35:17] <ijuma> rcjsuen: yes :)
[15:35:21] <rcjsuen> Ctr+R is cool too
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[15:37:11] <mk> why would a folder not be shown in pack view?
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[15:38:03] <rcjsuen> mk: primary reason is if they're set as an output folder
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[15:41:45] <mk> http://aycu13.webshots.com/image/46932/2005123383880093939_rs.jpg
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[15:51:23] <mk> checked out one of the subfolders, jnalib, as a project instead and it works now
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[17:16:07] <emantos> hi guys, anybody has an idea why even if i add org.eclipse.ui as a required plugin, i still don't get a reference to IFileEditorInput even if its on org.eclipse.ui package
[17:16:10] <emantos> ?
[17:17:03] <philk__> how you wanna uset IFileEditorInput? Can you find it when you press ctrl+shift+t
[17:18:10] <emantos> actually, i wanna cast my IEditorInput to a IFileEditorInput ,.. can't find it with ctrl - shift - O
[17:18:28] <emantos> also can't find it with ctrl-shift-T
[17:18:58] <paulweb515> emantos: you need to include the plugin that provides IFileEditorInput
[17:19:04] <paulweb515> you can find which plugin a class is in: http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/FAQ_How_do_I_find_a_particular_class_from_an_Eclipse_plug-in%3F
[17:20:03] <emantos> hmmm .. i assumed that its in org.eclipse.ui since that is its package according to the javadoc
[17:20:14] <emantos> ok, will search for that
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[17:21:43] <bowwow> I am tryiing to update to PDT on ubuntu but its not working
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[17:25:38] <Jedirl> Hello!
[17:25:59] <Jedirl> Anyone uses Eclipse for WSDL creation? I don't know how can I create a Soap 1.2 WSDL with it
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[17:29:37] <Jedirl> ... or could anyone suggest a mailing list where to make that question?
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[17:30:43] <rcjsuen> emantos: it is in o.e.ui.ide
[17:31:00] <rcjsuen> Package names don't always correspond 1-to-1 to the bundle's name.
[17:31:11] <emantos> rcjsuen , thanks ,.. ic. that's a new info for me
[17:31:11] <emantos> :D
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[17:33:36] <Jedirl> :(
[17:35:04] <philk__> jedirl: try the eclipse newsgroups
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[17:46:22] <philk__> Is it allowed to use unicode characters in the bundle-name?
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[17:52:39] <paulweb515> philk__: :-) it's theoretically possible ... isn't java UTF-16 by default?
[17:53:38] <paulweb515> philk__: displaying them, however, might be a problem (I recently got caught out because someone embedded a é in a Java comment
[17:53:40] <philk__> paulweb515: Well, if java is UTF-16 by default why are properties files ASCII then?
[17:54:08] <paulweb515> philk__: UTF-8 was written in such a way that ASCII is a subset
[17:54:27] <paulweb515> philk__: AFAIK you can embed \u3059\u1207 ... etc in properties files
[17:54:30] <tromey> yeah
[17:54:35] <philk__> paulweb515: I would prefer Java would parse properties files as UTF-8 though
[17:54:41] <zarath76_> hey guys, I'm starting to use the Eclipse editor a lot, especially for Python code. So far the only feature I'm missing from XEmacs is the ability to reformat comments, for instance nicely word-wrap a block of comments. anyone heard of this capability in eclipse?
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[17:58:13] <philk__> paulweb515: embedding \u encoded text is fine but a hell to edit. Eclipse should provide a way to let me edit in UTF-8 and save it in ASCII...
[17:59:02] <zarath76_> eclipse should let you edit in UTF-8 no? that is automatically ASCII if you use characters less than 127
[17:59:11] <zarath76_> and if you use other chacters, then it's not ascii
[17:59:18] <paulweb515> philk__: AFAIK you can set the encoding for a file to UTF-8 and then edit it that way
[18:00:01] <paulweb515> on linux the default encoding is UTF-8 ... But on windows it seems to be ISO-8895-1
[18:00:12] <zarath76_> you can change the default encoding
[18:01:39] <philk__> but will it be automatically \u encoded if the character is above 127?
[18:02:00] <philk__> I have changed the encoding of all my files to utf-8 already. First thing I do when I open Eclipse first time :)
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[18:02:52] <zarath76_> philk__, I jumped in late on what you're trying to do, so I'm not sure. You simply cannot store chars >127 in an "ASCII" file... if you do that, then it's by definition no longer ASCII
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[18:03:07] <MicW> hi
[18:03:33] <paulweb515> philk__: no, it will embed the chars if you are already in UTF-8 mode (and can type them)
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[18:04:01] <MicW> whe i write a plugin that needt to store properties to a project, how should i do this? acessing the filesystem or are there classes which i can use for this?
[18:04:03] <philk__> zarath76: I was ranting about the Java properties files being limited to ASCII chars only
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[18:04:22] <philk__> MicW: Can't you attach properties ot IProject?
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[18:05:06] <MicW> you mean as "persistent property"? then it's stored with the workspace, not with the project
[18:07:01] <rcjsuen> ~api ProjectScope
[18:07:02] <KOS-MOS> org.eclipse.core.resources.ProjectScope - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/core/resources/ProjectScope.html
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[18:13:29] <MicW> hey, great
[18:13:37] <MicW> can i use xml as storage?
[18:14:00] <MicW> hm,but... it's also ok as property file
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[18:15:03] <MicW> IProject project=getProject(); ProjectScope scope=new ProjectScope(project); IEclipsePreferences prefs=scope.getNode(Activator.PLUGIN_ID);
[18:15:21] <MicW> is that right to get a store for my plugin where i store ma project properties?
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[18:18:14] <rcjsuen> If my memory is correct, yes.
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[18:21:43] <MicW> great, thanks a lot
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[18:28:02] <MicW> i'd like to use FieldEditorPreferencePage for my property page but this relies on IPreferencesStore which is not compatible with IEclipsePreferences. how can i solve this? imlement my own store wrapper?
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[18:34:26] <scjp_> hello everybody
[18:34:40] <scjp_> is there anyway that i can make the fullscreen for my-eclipse
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[18:58:01] <robot_jesus> scjp_: unfortunately no
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[19:07:48] <zx> scjp_: I don't know about MyEclipse, but fullscreen support is in Ecilpse 3.4
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[19:08:39] <zx> scjp_: http://mea-bloga.blogspot.com/2008/02/full-screen-your-rcp-applications.html
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[19:38:45] <b0b0tiken> hello. is there an eclipse-con channel ?
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[19:40:49] <IsmAvatar> i've recently started having trouble exporting my project as a JAR
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[19:41:55] <IsmAvatar> I follow the JAR Export until the last window, when it asks for the Main class
[19:41:55] <IsmAvatar> I click Browse, and nothing is listed
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[19:44:43] <IsmAvatar> I used to have no problem, but now I've started to run into all kinds of eclipse trouble
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[19:48:22] <robot_jesus> Id like to have a key that brings up ALL shortcuts for the current editor / perspective im in, wouldnt any one else like that ?
[19:48:45] <robot_jesus> IsmAvatar: does your JAR have public static void main () ?
[19:49:27] <IsmAvatar> yes. I have a class called LGM with a public static void main(String[] args)
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[19:49:44] <IsmAvatar> it's been that way for 3 years, and it'
[19:49:48] <IsmAvatar> 's been working for 3 years
[19:50:08] <IsmAvatar> until I had a problem a couple months ago
[19:50:44] <IsmAvatar> I renamed the project then, and it solved the problem. Now the problem rose up again, and renaming the project has only been a temporary fix
[19:51:23] <IsmAvatar> it works for 1 jar build, and then stops working
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[19:52:45] <IsmAvatar> I've also run into a problem where the Package Explorer keeps getting out of sync with the filesystem
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[19:53:35] <zx> robot_jesus: CTRL+SHIFT+L
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[19:55:10] <robot_jesus> is that perspective / editor aware ? Will that bring up PDT's shortcuts as well ?
[19:55:21] <rcjsuen> ~keys
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[19:55:22] <KOS-MOS> For a list of available key bindings press Ctrl + Shift + L. To configure your key bindings, see Window > Preference > General > Keys. See also http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#What.27s_the_key_for_....3F
[19:55:30] <rcjsuen> robot_jesus: I think it is.
[19:55:39] <robot_jesus> wow sweet, ok then :)
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[20:00:49] <gilead> breadcrumb navigation is fantastic :)
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[20:01:13] <robot_jesus> IsmAvatar: weird, the one time I kept having problems with eclipse it turned out to be the phpeclipse plugin -- are you running any plugins ?
[20:01:30] <IsmAvatar> yes, several. I actually am having plugin issues
[20:02:15] <IsmAvatar> i don't have the phpeclipse plugin, but i'm using CDT, Subclipse, Mylin, and CheckStyle
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[20:03:37] <IsmAvatar> the RCP Patches have configuration problems
[20:04:08] <IsmAvatar> which made it difficult to update my plugins a couple weeks go
[20:04:10] <IsmAvatar> ago*
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[20:04:46] <IsmAvatar> No plug-in: "com.ibm.icu34.data.update" included at runtime.
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[20:05:30] <khussein> Hey guys, does anyone know if there is an IRC channel for AspectJ?
[20:05:44] <IsmAvatar> I also attempted to disable my subclipse plugin, and it told me to restart eclipse. I did, and subclipse was still enabled, but had a configuration problem
[20:05:45] <kaje1> Can anyone tell me the difference between the two modeling tutorials at the start of Eclipsecon? One is "An introduction to Model-driven-development using Eclipse Tools" and the other is "Introduction to Model Driven Engineering using Eclipse Frameworks"
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[20:07:00] <IsmAvatar> I then disabled Checkstyle, and restarted eclipse. Subclipse no longer had a problem, but was enabled again. Checkstyle then had the configuration problem
[20:07:27] <robot_jesus> hrmms
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[20:09:43] <IsmAvatar> when I tried to update a couple weeks ago, what I wound up doing was uninstalling all items with configuration trouble
[20:09:54] <IsmAvatar> and updating those
[20:10:08] <IsmAvatar> but it looks like the problem has come back
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[20:13:25] <IsmAvatar> i'm also not sure that I want to repeat that process right now, as I'm on 56k
[20:13:46] <IsmAvatar> not to mention, how can I be certain the problem won't just come back again in 2 weeks
[20:19:00] <IsmAvatar> there's actually 6 items with configuration trouble
[20:19:21] <IsmAvatar> RCP Patches 2 and 3 complaining about No plug-in: "com.ibm.icu34.data.update" included at runtime.
[20:19:35] <IsmAvatar> RCP Patch 1, No plug-in: "com.ibm.icu36.data.update" included at runtime.
[20:20:34] <IsmAvatar> Platform 3.2.1 patch wants org.eclipse.update.core
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[20:21:29] <IsmAvatar> RCP 3.2.1 patch wants org.eclipse.swt.win32.win32.x86, org.eclipse.swt, and org.eclipse.osgi
[20:21:50] <rcjsuen> IsmAvatar: You might want to move on to Eclipse 3.3.
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[20:21:56] <IsmAvatar> and Java Dev Tools 3.2.1 performance patch wants org.eclipse.jdt.core
[20:22:35] <IsmAvatar> Help > About Eclipse says "Eclipse SDK Version 3.3.1.1"
[20:22:52] <rcjsuen> IsmAvatar: How did you install Eclipse 3.3.1.1 then
[20:23:56] <IsmAvatar> I don't recall, it's been a while. I think I unzipped it into its own directory.
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[20:24:32] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure if there's any way to save your current configuration.
[20:24:39] <rcjsuen> Especially when it's complaining about 3.2.1.
[20:24:50] <freak_> hello i have a problem using eclipse and tomcat
[20:24:52] <freak_> The Tomcat server configuration at \Servers\Tomcat v6.0 Server at
[20:24:52] <freak_> localhost-config is missing. Check the server for errors.The Tomcat server configuration at \Servers\Tomcat v6.0 Server at
[20:24:52] <freak_> localhost-config is missing. Check the server for errors.The Tomcat server configuration at \Servers\Tomcat v6.0 Server at
[20:24:52] <freak_> localhost-config is missing. Check the server for errors.
[20:25:36] <IsmAvatar> Most of my settings of interest are stored on an SVN server, so I wouldn't be too concerned if I lost the current config
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[20:27:02] <freak_> i want to start it first time, in which dic eclipse searches the config?
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[20:28:30] <IsmAvatar> I'm guessing I should do a fresh Eclipse install
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[20:29:54] <IsmAvatar> it looks like I installed Eclipse 3.3 overtop of 3.2
[20:30:07] <IsmAvatar> that's probably why I'm having the problem >.<
[20:30:08] <rcjsuen> IsmAvatar: That appears to be the case from your errors.
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[20:36:15] <MicW> how can i get the location where my current plugin is installed?
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[20:38:06] <IsmAvatar> what's the difference between "Eclipse IDE for Java Developers" and "Eclipse Classic 3.3.2"?
[20:38:21] <rcjsuen> ~tell IsmAvatar about compare
[20:38:21] <KOS-MOS> IsmAvatar: Wondering what the difference between all those Eclipse packages are? See http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php
[20:38:48] <IsmAvatar> ty
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[20:52:05] <nitind> MicW: org.osgi.framework.Bundle.getLocation() might be it (your Activator/Plugin instance can return its Bundle), but the better question is what's it going to be used for?
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[20:52:33] <MicW> i have a application server launching plugin which has some tomcats bunded with
[20:52:38] <MicW> bundled
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[21:25:17] <konigsberg> What kind of concurrency guarantees does the Eclipse Filesystem have for two threads that attempt to write a file at the same time?
[21:25:27] <konigsberg> (eg file.setContents?)
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[21:28:50] <nitind> konigsberg: I don't think the interface mentions it, but they're using org.eclipse.core.resources.IResourceRuleFactory.modifyRule(IResource), one at a time.
[21:28:53] <matt__> I'm trying to find a way to more easily export a .war, right now, I have a web project, then I choose export -> war -> select destination -> ok all of the things I select are always the same, it seems like I'm just missing the automated way to do this
[21:29:02] <matt__> any thoughts?
[21:29:40] <konigsberg> nitind, thanks. So that means I can get rid of the object lock surrounding my specific file write operation. I look forward to meeting you (and everyone else) next week.
[21:31:08] <nitind> konigsberg: Yes, you absolutely don't want to need a secondary lock around that. Therein lies the path to deadlock.
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[21:31:46] <konigsberg> nitind, I know, i know. *sigh*
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[21:32:11] <linxeh> matt__: ant ?
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[21:34:53] <nielsle> When I try to start eclipse-gcj (Debian/sid) I get java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org.eclipse.ui.internal.ide.IDEWorkbenchAdvisor
[21:35:08] <rcjsuen> ~tell nielsle about gcj
[21:35:09] <KOS-MOS> nielsle: GCJ is not officially supported by Eclipse as a Java runtime environment. Please talk with your distribution's packaging team and/or the GCJ team for assistance. To run Eclipse with a different JVM, see: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I_just_installed_Eclipse_on_Linux.2C_but_it_does_not_start._What_is_the_problem.3F
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[21:41:37] <matt__> linxeh: yeah, I was thinking about that but I haven't really used that too much and don't have a script written up
[21:42:13] <matt__> linxeh: do you know of any standard .war building ant scripts or a good place to start with that in mind?
[21:43:48] <matt__> or any suggestions about seeing how eclipse does it from the export... menu item? if I could see that (it's probably just ant) maybe I could just use that
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[21:44:39] <Eli-> anyone knows how can i upgrade eclipse 3.2 to 3.3 under linux ?
[21:44:58] <rcjsuen> Eli-: You download the new version, extract it to a fresh folder.
[21:45:02] <rcjsuen> ./eclipse
[21:45:02] <rcjsuen> the end
[21:46:46] <Eli-> ok... im dling
[21:47:57] <Eli-> another question that i wanted to ask, im using fresh install of kubunto, and i had probs with the compile/makefile processes using the CDT plugin in eclipse, was there another thing i had to install for using that?
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[21:51:44] <linxeh> matt__: a war is just a jar called .war, with a WEB-INF directory containing your jars and deployment descriptors. all your ant script target needs to do is copy everything into a build directory, then create a jar of that directory called "foo.war"
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[21:52:23] <linxeh> matt__: I don't use any packaging stuff in eclipse, everything I do needs to be built from ant / maven anyway for other developers and deployments, so I just use that
[21:52:49] <matt__> linxeh: yeah
[21:53:24] <matt__> linxeh: I just don't really know the syntax for ant and am already learning some other stuff right now, was trying to avoid adding that to the list of things to do research about right now :-)
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[21:53:49] <matt__> linxeh: but, maybe I'll just have to suck it up
[21:54:29] <matt__> linxeh: I figured this was just something that was out there that I could grab real quick w/o having to spend a bunch of time on it
[21:55:28] <linxeh> possibly :) you can set up a packaging template or something I guess, but I've not used it
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[21:56:12] <matt__> any reference to a boilerplate war (or jar I guess) builder ant script?
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[21:58:11] <rzec> how can i do a search for all files in a project for PHP?
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[22:02:18] <Eli-> rcjsuen: if i installed the old ver of eclipse via adept, where did it install it to?
[22:02:57] <rcjsuen> Eli-: maybe in /usr/lib/
[22:02:59] <rcjsuen> somewhere
[22:03:02] <rcjsuen> *shrugs*
[22:03:05] <rcjsuen> I use Gentoo
[22:03:37] <Eli-> yes its there, thanks
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[22:07:10] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Sent you an email.
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[22:13:05] <linxeh> Eli-: locate / updatedb / find are you friends :)
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[22:31:06] <EvilGuru> Can someone tell me how I can increase the max memory limit under Linux? I have tried -vmargs but was told it was unknown
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[22:36:54] <Eli-> wtf, i upgraded to Eclipse Europe and now in C++ files it all the code is in plain black (w/o marks), any idea anyone?
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[22:37:38] <d_a_carver> ~tell EvilGuru about vm
[22:37:39] <KOS-MOS> EvilGuru: To learn more about the Eclipse launcher / binary, see - http://www.eclipse.org/swt/launcher.html - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_Launcher - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/misc/launcher.html
[22:39:03] <EvilGuru> d_a_carver: The Windows/dll stuff is not really helpful
[22:39:32] <EvilGuru> I have followed what others have used with success for 3.2, but passing -vmargs -Xmx2048M causes a launcher error
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[22:43:05] <d_a_carver> ~os
[22:43:29] <d_a_carver> Doh...EvilGuru what version of linux, 64bit or 32bit?
[22:43:40] <EvilGuru> 64-bit
[22:43:53] <EvilGuru> I have more than enough memory (8GB)
[22:44:33] <d_a_carver> EvilGuru and you are sure that you have the 64 bit version of eclipse running with a 64bit java 1.5 or java 1.6 jre (not gcj).
[22:45:04] <EvilGuru> I am
[22:45:19] <d_a_carver> EvilGuru what happens if you lower the size of the -Xmx2048M to something smaller?
[22:45:21] <EvilGuru> However, even $ eclipse-3.3 -vmargs -Xms512M fails
[22:45:46] <EvilGuru> the error at the terminal is "unregcognized option: -vmargs"
[22:46:07] <d_a_carver> Hmmm....I'm launching on 32bit linux with the following: eclipse -vm /home/dcarver/jrockit-jdk1.5.0_12/bin/java -vmargs -Xms256m -Xmx256m -XXallocPrefetch -XXallocRedoPrefetch
[22:46:17] <d_a_carver> which works fine.
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[22:50:02] <EvilGuru> Right, fixed it. The Gentoo bunch changed the arg passing
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[23:22:12] <Gumm1> hi
[23:24:12] <gilead> hi Gumm1
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