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[00:04:52] <roby> Found my answer here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_Tomcat_FAQ#If_I_start_my_Tomcat_server_and_try_to_display_Tomcat.27s_default_page.2C_why_do_I_see_a_directory_listing_or_404_error_page.3F
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[00:17:37] <ekuleshov> is anyone familiar with org.eclipse.ui.navigator.CommonViewer ? I am having troubles to make this class pickup action contributions declared in navigator content extension points.
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[00:18:09] <Stevezau> i'm having a weird problem.. I've created a simple class that has "public static void main(String[] args) {" which just prints out some text.. When i hit the run button in eclipse it gives java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: main which dosent make sense.. it was working a few days ago
[00:18:14] <Stevezau> also.. i've made changes to some of my classes but when i hit run it seems to be running the old code.. it there a way to clean the older complied classes up?
[00:18:33] <rcjsuen> Stevezau: You can try Project / Clean.
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[00:18:58] <rcjsuen> ekuleshov: Best to just go ahead with the question.
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[00:19:12] <rcjsuen> ekuleshov: And I assume you've checked the CNF blog entries already.
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[00:19:54] <ekuleshov> rcjsuen: that was the question. and do you mean Michael Elder's blog?
[00:20:16] <rcjsuen> ekuleshov: I mean, more like elaborating on your problem.
[00:20:19] <ekuleshov> rcjsuen: the problem is that cnf is in an editor and not in a view, so it is created programmatically
[00:20:35] <Stevezau> rcjsuen, yeah i tried that.. but it's still doing the same thing
[00:20:47] <rcjsuen> ekuleshov: And yes, I meant Michael's blog.
[00:21:02] <ekuleshov> rcjsuen: it just doesn't pickup popup contributions to the menu and I am still wondering how it supposed to be contributed
[00:21:10] <rcjsuen> Stevezau: You might want to try deleting your bin/ folder and see what happens.
[00:21:23] <Stevezau> rcjsuen tried that as well
[00:21:30] <ekuleshov> rcjsuen: so Michael's blog don't have that issue, because is uses cnf in a view
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[00:21:44] <Stevezau> http://pastebin.ca/929722  -  thats the class, its tiny.. it should work
[00:21:53] <rcjsuen> Stevezau: Did you try on another workspace?
[00:22:04] <Stevezau> rcjsuen.. ill give it a go
[00:22:04] <Stevezau> 1 sec
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[00:23:36] <Stevezau> rcjsuen same thing..
[00:23:46] <rcjsuen> ekuleshov: So your code works if you make a view instead?
[00:23:58] <rcjsuen> Stevezau: Sounds like you have bigger problems.
[00:24:33] <rcjsuen> Stevezau: Open your Run dialog, and delete all launch configurations (I'm talking about your new workspace), there should only be one.
[00:24:43] <Stevezau> rcjsuen tried that as well
[00:25:07] <rcjsuen> Stevezau: Right-click on your file, Run As > Java Application
[00:25:12] <Stevezau> I did install subclipse yesterday, perhaps that done something.. ill try another version of eclipse
[00:25:29] <ekuleshov> rcjsuen: can't make a view. it is a worm based editor with bunch of other stuff in it
[00:25:54] <Stevezau> rcjsuen, hey that worked!
[00:26:19] <ekuleshov> rcjsuen: it seem like menu initialization isn't right and there isn't any example around how to do that on programmatically created CommonViewer
[00:26:26] <rcjsuen> ekuleshov: I guess you can't change the viewer's input for the views.
[00:27:32] <Stevezau> rcjsuen any idea why it works if i right click > run as
[00:27:45] <ekuleshov> rcjsuen: same input is shown in the Project Navigator view and actions do appear there just fine. this CommonViewer instance does show the content ok, but popup menu isn't picking up actions from the content providers
[00:27:46] <Stevezau> and not by clicking the run button
[00:28:28] <rcjsuen> Stevezau: Not really, I have some guesses but they're not really relevant to the behaviour you're seeing.
[00:29:07] <rcjsuen> ekuleshov: I thought you just said it can't be a view.
[00:29:31] <Stevezau> rcjsuen sorry i lied.. its not working.. i clicked on the wrong .java file
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[00:30:14] <rcjsuen> Stevezau: Delete all your launch configurations and click on the right one this time.
[00:30:24] <ekuleshov> rcjsuen: right. I can't move this CommonViewer widget to a view, but it uses same models as Project Navigator.
[00:30:54] <Stevezau> rcjsuen thats what i done, same problem
[00:30:59] <rcjsuen> ekuleshov: ah
[00:31:06] <rcjsuen> Stevezau: This is on the new workspace?
[00:31:56] <Stevezau> rcjsuen sorry on the old one.. it works in the new workspace
[00:32:14] <rcjsuen> Stevezau: Didn't you say <Stevezau> rcjsuen same thing.. :x
[00:32:15] <Stevezau> not workspace.. a new project.. within the same workspace
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[00:32:29] <Stevezau> rcjsuen i did.. i stuffed up
[00:32:31] <rcjsuen> Okay, let's get this straight.
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[00:32:40] <rcjsuen> a) you didn't try on a new workspace, b) you tried on a new project, c) it works on the new project
[00:33:10] <Stevezau> so in 2 of my existing projects it wont work.. I created a new project in the same workspace and it works
[00:33:15] <Stevezau> rcjsuen yes.
[00:34:29] <Stevezau> so it seems there is a problem with the project(s)
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[00:35:18] <rcjsuen> You could try to debug this further, or give up and just copy the projects to a new project.
[00:36:38] <Stevezau> rcjsuen, i removed my java lib from the project then readded it.. it seems to be working now
[00:37:40] <Stevezau> BUT!... I changed the class then hit run again.. its running the old code now..
[00:37:56] <Stevezau> its as if its not re-compiling the class
[00:38:21] <rcjsuen> Go to your project's properties, builders
[00:38:23] <rcjsuen> screenshot
[00:38:51] <Stevezau> hmmm sec.. think its one of my user libs
[00:39:51] <Stevezau> yep, if i add one of my custom user lib's it starts to play up.. I'll check our that user lib
[00:41:43] <Stevezau> rcjsuen, was a problem with the user lib.. i recreated the library and it seems to be working now
[00:41:46] <Stevezau> thanks for your help
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[01:01:29] <Zerone> ello rcjsuen :)
[01:01:37] <rcjsuen> hi
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[01:08:16] <yojimbo> hey
[01:08:35] <yojimbo> I'm looking for an eclipse plugin which would generate class diagrams
[01:08:42] <yojimbo> with the links between classes
[01:08:46] <yojimbo> any hint?
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[01:17:58] <jonkri> how do i move a project from one workspace to another? i moved the directory containing the project to the other workspace but it doesn't show in the package explorer list
[01:18:07] <jonkri> i want to keep revision history etc
[01:18:31] <rcjsuen> jonkri: revision like Local History from Compare / Replace With
[01:19:16] <nitind> jonkri: Your best bet is to start using a team server like, CVS or SVN, and just checking out the same project in the new workspace.
[01:19:50] <jonkri> rcjsuen: yes, where is that kept?
[01:19:57] <jonkri> nitind: ok
[01:21:01] <jonkri> nitind: can eclipse work with svn?
[01:21:13] <jonkri> rcjsuen: if they are not in the project folder, i mean
[01:21:52] <rcjsuen> jonkri: that's in the .metadata folder
[01:22:16] <jonkri> in the .plugins directory?...
[01:22:25] <rcjsuen> jonkri: let me put it anot her one
[01:22:31] <rcjsuen> another way
[01:22:53] <jonkri> (i'm not trying to do this now, i'm just curious)
[01:22:56] <rcjsuen> you can't just copy/paste it
[01:23:06] <jonkri> i know :) or i assumed so :)
[01:23:09] <jonkri> thank you for your help
[01:23:15] <jonkri> now, can eclipse work with svn directly?
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[01:23:53] <yojimbo> you mean a plugin?
[01:24:30] <jonkri> yes, if not included
[01:25:26] <yojimbo> there are two I know
[01:25:31] <yojimbo> subversive and subclipse
[01:25:39] <jonkri> anyone you can recommend? :)
[01:25:44] <jonkri> s/anyone/one
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[01:29:53] <rcjsuen> jonkri: i know people that uses one and some the other
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[01:32:14] <jonkri> rcjsuen: i just read in the faq that one of the primary reasons of using subclipse seemed to be that it's more like the cvs plugin so that it will be more familiar to cvs users
[01:32:25] <jonkri> rcjsuen: but i havn't worked with that plugin so, i think i'll go with the official one
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[01:42:59] <rcjsuen> jonkri: I use Subclipse myself anyway.
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[01:53:50] <FunPhantom> hi, i deleted a project named 'hulk', then when i try to create it again it says: C:\xampplite\htdocs\hulk overlaps the location of another project: 'hulk' Can anyone help me ?
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[02:13:43] <mib_5tkkb5wd> eclipse noob here, wondering what the best database plugin is.....and how the jdk 6 java db works with eclipse
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[02:14:17] <zx|espresso> mib_5tkkb5wd: I'd check out www.eclipse.org/datatools
[02:14:32] <mib_5tkkb5wd> ty
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[02:20:51] <Yaroslv1> How can I create a JRE_CONTAINER? My problem is that I'm synchronizing .classpath with teammate, and we have different JRE containers in the classpath
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[02:29:05] <mib_5tkkb5wd> zx|espresso uh, so the DTP platform/plugin includes a database?
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[02:35:45] <rcjsuen> Yaroslv1: It's best to set your .classpath file to point to an EE, that'd probably be better.
[02:36:06] <Yaroslv1> what's EE?
[02:37:19] <FunPhantom> i'm getting error: C:\xampplite\htdocs\hulk overlaps the location of another project: 'hulk' Can anyone help me ?
[02:38:02] <rcjsuen> ~tell Yaroslv1 about ee
[02:38:05] <rcjsuen> ~tell Yaroslv1 about wiki EE
[02:38:05] <KOS-MOS> Yaroslv1: Check out this wiki article - http://wiki.eclipse.org/EE
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[02:42:26] <rcjsuen> Yaroslv1: What does your .classpath file look like?
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[02:44:31] <yojimbo> any1 knows a nice plugin to generate class diagrams and thigns like that?
[02:44:42] <Yaroslv1> http://pastebin.ca/929834
[02:45:16] <rcjsuen> Yaroslv1: So it looks like you're using Java 6
[02:45:24] <rcjsuen> So in Window > preferences > java > installed JREs > Execution Environment
[02:45:35] <rcjsuen> you should set check your jre in the JavaSE-1.6 section
[02:45:38] <rcjsuen> then edit your project's properties
[02:45:42] <rcjsuen> the Java Build Path under libraries
[02:45:45] <rcjsuen> and edit the jre entry
[02:45:50] <rcjsuen> to point at an Execution Environment instead
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[02:47:17] <Yaroslv1> Where will this library be specified in workspace/project files?
[02:47:43] <rcjsuen> Eh?
[02:47:49] <rcjsuen> Rephrase / elaborate / something.
[02:47:59] <nitind> Yaroslv1: the project's .classpath, most likely, using a special key that the JDT understands means a certain JRE in the preferences.
[02:48:17] <rcjsuen> your         <classpathentry kind="con" path="org.eclipse.jdt.launching.JRE_CONTAINER/org.eclipse.jdt.internal.debug.ui.launcher.StandardVMType/JRE 1.6.02"/> will be changed
[02:48:38] <rcjsuen> to something like <classpathentry kind="con" path="org.eclipse.jdt.launching.JRE_CONTAINER/org.eclipse.jdt.internal.debug.ui.launcher.StandardVMType/JavaSE-1.6"/>
[02:48:41] <Yaroslv1> I mean, how can I guarantee that my teammates will not get "unknown library" instead of "unbound classpath container" if I switch to Library?
[02:48:54] <rcjsuen> Yaroslv1: Well, your teammates are having conflicts already. >_>
[02:49:32] <zx|cafe> ya, please use BREE's (Execution Environments)
[02:49:34] <rcjsuen> I guess if you set default JRE container (however you do that, I forgot), there won't be any conflicts at the project settings level.
[02:49:35] <rcjsuen> BUT
[02:49:43] <rcjsuen> That's stupid, so, don't.
[02:49:49] <zx|cafe> In Eclipse 3.4, we are making this easier
[02:49:56] <Yaroslv1> for this to work, does there have to be library with exact same name on both machines?
[02:50:03] <zx|cafe> All plug-in / fragment projects will get a BREE associated with them on creation
[02:50:05] <rcjsuen> Yaroslv1: No, that's the point.
[02:50:14] <rcjsuen> n omore 'JRE 1.6.02' or whatever you have
[02:50:15] <zx|cafe> Yaroslv1: no, there just needs to be a VM that meets that requirement of say J2SE-1.4
[02:50:22] <rcjsuen> it's a "special key" per nitind
[02:50:57] <Yaroslv1> ah, I see
[02:51:19] <rcjsuen> see above, that xml element that i pasted ^
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[02:53:50] <yojimbo> so no1 knows a plugin to generate class diagram with eclipse?
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[03:13:33] <yojimbo> other question
[03:13:43] <yojimbo> how do you update from eclipse 3.2 to 3.3 ?
[03:13:59] <yojimbo> in my find and install, it goes up to 3.2.X
[03:14:02] <yojimbo> but not 3.3.
[03:14:04] <zx|cafe> I say the easiest way is to keep your workspace... but simply unzip 3.3 into another directory
[03:14:06] <rcjsuen> you download Eclipse 3.3, unzip to new workspace, point to your owrkspace
[03:14:13] <zx|cafe> and reuse your workspace
[03:14:19] <zx|cafe> ya, what rcjsuen said
[03:14:36] <rcjsuen> er
[03:14:41] <rcjsuen> unzip to a new directory
[03:14:47] <rcjsuen> NOT on top of your 3.2 installation
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[03:18:10] <yojimbo> oh oki
[03:18:28] <yojimbo> could I delete 3.2 folder without any problem?
[03:19:09] <rcjsuen> well, if you don't need it again, feel free to delete it
[03:19:57] <yojimbo> if I still have my workspace
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[03:20:10] <yojimbo> I guess I could delete it then
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[03:32:51] <yojimbo> that's interesting
[03:33:02] <yojimbo> it opened a pretty old project I did more then a year ago
[03:33:13] <yojimbo> and all the other projects aren't in my package view :o
[03:34:05] <yojimbo> ha
[03:34:05] <yojimbo> no
[03:34:10] <yojimbo> launched the wrong workspace lol
[03:34:21] <yojimbo> good to see I have some garbage projects left then :p
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[03:38:06] <yojimbo> thx
[03:38:07] <yojimbo> bye
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[03:43:45] <rahul_> how can I get multiple selections of ICompilationUnit elements? I don't see any method on ISelectionService that lets me do that?
[03:44:08] <rcjsuen> rahul_: You get the selection
[03:44:12] <rcjsuen> then check if its an IStructuredSelection
[03:44:17] <rcjsuen> I'll leave the rest as an exercise to you.
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[03:45:03] <rahul_> rcjsuen, I get that, but I want to get multiple selections from the view not a single selection
[03:45:22] <rcjsuen> rahul_: Mm, did you look at IStructuredSelection's methods?
[03:45:31] <rcjsuen> ~api IStructuredSelection
[03:45:31] <KOS-MOS> org.eclipse.jface.viewers.IStructuredSelection - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/jface/viewers/IStructuredSelection.html
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[03:49:01] <rahul_> rcjsuen, thanks, I see there is an iterator() and toArray(), i will try those. Appreciate then help
[03:51:00] <rahul_> *the
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[05:16:00] <f0ster> is this the official eclipse channel
[05:16:58] <nerdboy> as official as things get around here...
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[05:17:11] <f0ster> lol
[05:20:38] <nitind> Yes, yes it is.
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[05:23:32] <jamescarr> hey
[05:23:43] <jamescarr> is the junit runner availble in some standard plugin lib?
[05:23:59] <jamescarr> I want to use it's reporter
[05:28:04] <jamescarr> wrjgtbwkfdjblkfdwjb
[05:28:50] <jamescarr> HELP GODAMMIT!!!
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[05:34:35] <nitind> jamescarr: It's somewhere in the SDK, but no one seems to be around *right now* to give you pointers.
[05:35:15] <nerdboy> he's in a happy place right now
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[05:39:48] <jamescarr> lol.. I'm in an angry place. once I find it, I am going to blog it with the title "Junit eclipse plugin source"
[05:40:03] <jamescarr> because a google for that doesn't turn up jack shit that's relevant
[05:52:38] <francis4> jamescarr: there is a junit plugin that's in the SDK.  That's not what you want?
[05:52:42] <rcjsuen> It's probably in the "org.eclipes.jdt.junit" plug-in?
[05:53:16] <jamescarr> thats it
[05:57:44] <rcjsuen> jamescarr: If you write Eclipse plug-ins, in the future, setting a breakpoint in ViewPart would get you what you want.
[05:58:11] <rcjsuen> Since once the JUnit view gets created it'll hit that breakpoint, then you can climb the stack frames and see the code.
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[06:38:26] <Aditya> hey... Can anyone tell me how to enable auto complete for C/C++ code in eclipse?
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[07:23:09] <nmsclera> can anyone tell me why a this script (on the beforeOpen event) would fail when specifying a parameter, but fail when specifying the empty string or when NullValue is chosen in BIRT, it works? :: http://www.pastebin.ca/930030
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[07:24:20] <nmsclera> rather the inverse -- when NOT specifying "" or Null Value, it works.. otherwise I get SQL syntax error
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[07:31:55] <gionnyboss> can somebody please point me to a tutorial to develop c++ applications using autotools with eclipse, please?
[07:32:10] <gionnyboss> I can't understand how I can get started with autotools and eclipse
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[07:53:09] <gionnyboss> I think I got it.
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[08:55:48] <amitev> where is the dictionary eclise is using?
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[09:03:36] <jpospychala|away> amitev: it's in org.eclipse.jdt.ui plug-in, why you ask?
[09:04:15] <amitev> there are missing words there, is there a way i can request these words to be added there?
[09:05:58] <jpospychala|away> sure you can
[09:06:24] <jpospychala|away> first see, maybe there are already requests like you want here: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=%5Bspell+checking%5D&classification=Eclipse&product=JDT&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywor
[09:06:25] <jpospychala|away> ds=&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=
[09:06:47] <jpospychala|away> then open new bug
[09:08:09] <amitev> thank you
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[10:01:35] <philk__> are there any tutorials about ManagedServiceFactory out there?
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[11:13:28] <Sp4rKy> hi
[11:13:41] <Sp4rKy> is it possible to generate php5 code from omondo plugin ?
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[11:19:57] <redspike> j #centos
[11:20:01] <redspike> opps sotty
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[11:23:33] <gionnyboss> I am using CDT plugin to write C++ applications. My problem is that I don't get autocompletion for other libraries that I added. Is there a way to tell Eclipse that it should include other libraries to use for autocompletion, please?
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[11:26:25] <dean|work> Hey folks. Quick question. I'm using eclipse, with PDT and svn plugins. For whatever reason, althoug hthe files are on my file system, .htaccess files are not showing up in the file explorer
[11:26:30] <dean|work> on the left pane where i can see project files
[11:26:37] <dean|work> Any ideas why this is happening. Google is yielding no results
[11:30:30] <Carnage\> dean|work: To what view refers "File explorer"?
[11:30:42] <dean|work> Project Explorer, sorry
[11:31:23] <Carnage\> There is no active filter hiding them, right?
[11:32:31] <Sp4rKy> Is it possible to generate php5 code from any uml plugin ? (especially omondo)
[11:35:56] <dean|work> i found it
[11:36:03] <dean|work> it was under filters
[11:36:08] <dean|work> blocking .* all
[11:36:19] <dean|work> now my .project files are showing though, need to figure out how to hide them
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[11:45:00] <BenoitH> Hi ! I try to install subversive, but i can't install SVN connectors, I have to install this librairy : JavaHL 1.4.5 Win32 Binaries, where can i find this librairy please ?
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[13:05:19] <wild_oscar> greetings
[13:05:22] <wild_oscar> how does one upgrade JUinit in Eclipse?
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[13:12:53] <s88> hi all
[13:13:33] <mhaller> wild_oscar: i dont think you can update junit on its own, you would need to grab an updated junit eclipse plugin
[13:15:04] <s88> My Eclipse is hosting on windows, and I have a background program in Linux will output by xterm. I used xwin32 to redirect the xterm on my windows before. Does it possible to embedded the xterm in eclipse?
[13:15:47] <wild_oscar> not even if you update the jars?
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[13:17:23] <mhaller> wild_oscar: could work. extract the plugin jar, replace the junit.jar and repack it or use extracted plugin folder. check that jar filename (if its different) is updated in manifest.mf, too
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[13:34:09] <wild_oscar> well, I'll stay with junit3 for the time
[13:34:54] <wild_oscar> mhaller: by the way, concerning Junit in eclipse
[13:35:11] <wild_oscar> aren't assertTrue messages shown in junit test?
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[13:39:55] <rcjsuen> when they fail it tells me
[13:40:01] <rcjsuen> I don't know what you mean by "shown"
[13:40:12] <rcjsuen> unless you mena assertTrue(x, "x is not true");
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[13:42:02] <philk__> are there any tutorials about ManagedServiceFactory out there? I am not sure how to use it.
[13:42:19] <philk__> or if it is even applicable for my use-case
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[13:43:12] <wild_oscar> rcjsuen: oh, I see
[13:43:21] <wild_oscar> messages are only shown on failure
[13:43:47] <rcjsuen> I rarely use messages myself *shrugs*
[13:43:58] <rcjsuen> I only do that for fail()
[13:45:16] <philk__> I wanna create OSGi services on the fly if someone requests them... like getService(SomeService.class, "(someprop=value)"); And the factory just creates this SomeService if it does not exists already using the someprop to decide how to register it.
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[13:48:32] <flaper87> hy guys
[13:48:44] <flaper87> i'm trying to run eclipse pdt standalone
[13:48:49] <flaper87> i'm getting this error
[13:48:50] <flaper87> http://pastebin.com/m58376c5c
[13:48:59] <flaper87> does any one knows how to fix it?
[13:49:21] <flaper87> i need to get eclipse working
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[13:51:50] <rcjsuen> could be a bug, or could be gcj >    at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(libgcj.so.90)
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[13:54:24] <gionnyboss> how can I get autocompletion work for additional libraries with CDT (C/C++) plugin, please? It autocompletes correctly when I use standard C++ library, but I added now library boost and autocompletion does not work.
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[14:47:39] <vknecht> hi
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[14:53:11] <SamuraiDio> hi
[14:53:20] <SamuraiDio> does someone there uses the subversive plugin?
[14:53:40] <rcjsuen> SamuraiDio: I'd suggest just asking the question.
[14:53:49] <SamuraiDio> that was a question
[14:53:56] <SamuraiDio> well, then...
[14:54:39] <rcjsuen> SamuraiDio: Are yo utaking a poll?
[14:54:43] <SamuraiDio> i just installed suversive plugin, but it has not in the svn connector preference. so it does not detect my current svn metadata, and i cant share a project
[14:55:12] <SamuraiDio> any idea?
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[14:56:32] <dandre> is there a way to automatically deactivate a task in mylin when I set its state as completed
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[15:08:44] <rcjsuen> dandre: You might want to ask ekuleshov.
[15:09:38] <dandre> ok
[15:09:59] <dandre> ekuleshov: Hi, is there a way to automatically deactivate a task in mylin when I set its state as completed ?
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[15:13:45] <SamuraiDio> i usually use Ctrl+PgUp/PgDown to change among the editors i have opened, but the Javascript Editor (part of WST) uses it for a diferent function, and i cant find the keybinding to change. how can i change that?
[15:14:04] <rcjsuen> SamuraiDio: You mean it moves between the inner tabs?
[15:14:10] <SamuraiDio> yeah
[15:14:35] <SamuraiDio> but the javascript editor use the key for a 'preview with' option
[15:15:06] <rcjsuen> Well, I don't know what that 'Preview With' thing is.
[15:15:13] <rcjsuen> But you can't change the behaviour of it moving within the inner tabs
[15:15:33] <SamuraiDio> rcjsuen, ahh, sorry, its an bellow tab to preview
[15:15:56] <SamuraiDio> this tabs are under the javascript editor tab
[15:19:36] <rcjsuen> There are some bugs open about this and I think some work might be going in for 3.4, I don't know the details though.
[15:20:42] <SamuraiDio> hmm... ok, thanks
[15:21:36] <rcjsuen> I wouldn't cross my fingers though, it's been like this for a while.
[15:21:51] <rcjsuen> And if there was an easy fix I'm sure the Platform would've done it already.
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[15:26:57] <SamuraiDio> rcjsuen, i dont think that preview tab is useful, i would like to just get rid of it
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[16:34:24] <Kako> hi, how can i switch from easyeclipse to eclipse without loosing all my settings?
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[16:35:50] <mib_ujewm1dw> is there a substantial difference in performance among database plugins for eclipse?
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[16:40:48] <mib_ujewm1dw> anyone have an opinion on optimal database tools for eclipse?
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[16:49:21] <mib_ujewm1dw> hey, anyone else see that tumbleweed blow by? lol
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[16:50:26] <zx> the best free option as far as I know is eclipse.org/datatools (DTP)
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[16:52:02] <mib_ujewm1dw> thanks!
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[17:03:32] <nitind> Kako: Just use the same workspace.  How well the settings are retained depends on whether you use the same plug-ins that EasyEclipse includes.
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[17:10:24] <mib_ujewm1dw> is there a way to add a project to eclipse through svn? eg, some site has source code available through svn "svn checkout http://[...]" how can i add that project to eclipse and keep it automatically updated?
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[17:11:30] <benny`work> mib_ujewm1dw, eclipse.org/subversive
[17:11:39] <zx> mib_ujewm1dw: There are two main Eclipse SVN plug-ins... google for "Subversive" or "Subclipse"
[17:11:40] <benny`work> mib_ujewm1dw, or tigris.org -> subclipse
[17:12:07] <benny`work> benny`work, (i prefer subclipse over subversive but just as a hint)
[17:12:40] <benny`work> zx, didn't you go on vacation? get out and shutdown your box for a week!
[17:13:19] <zx> benny`work: I'm back
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[17:16:19] <ijuma> benny`work: you're giving yourself a hint that you prefer subclipse over subversive? ;)
[17:17:20] <benny`work> ijuma, ah damn...i really hate this bug in xchat that you have yourself as nick completition...happend several times the last weeks
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[17:29:07] <mib_ujewm1dw> benny`work tyvm
[17:29:35] <benny`work> mib_ujewm1dw, i really should learn all those internet acronyms :)
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[17:34:27] <mib_ujewm1dw> bluh... does eclipse have a plugin manager, like jedit?
[17:34:49] <mib_ujewm1dw> or do you just download every plugin, copy it over......
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[17:37:09] <Schnee> mib_ujewm1dw: Open your eyes ;) Help -> Software Updates -> Find and install..
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[17:38:35] <mib_ujewm1dw> Schnee ok, new procedure to me. i thought maybe it was handled like jedit where all available/supported plugins explicitly listed
[17:39:12] <Schnee> mib_ujewm1dw: dont know if such a listview exists - that was the way it works for me :)
[17:39:48] <benny`work> Schnee, mib_ujewm1dw Help -> Software Updates -> Configure :)
[17:40:04] <benny`work> Schnee, but to install new plugins, go to "find and install"
[17:40:24] <Schnee> okay :)
[17:42:07] <mib_ujewm1dw> so if an install/update site is referenced at eclipse.org we can trust it completely?
[17:44:24] <mib_ujewm1dw> http://www.infoq.com/news/2007/10/mylyn says mylyn was integrated in eclipse 3.3 - does that mean i have to include the optional subclipse integration for mylyn 2.0.0?
[17:44:49] <mib_ujewm1dw> i'd rather not break my eclipse install!
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[17:47:49] <dandre> ekuleshov: Hi, is there a way to automatically deactivate a task in mylin when I set its state as completed ?
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[17:49:01] <iElectric> hey, how do i clear console with a key?
[17:52:57] <CodeNinja> iElectric, There is currently no way to clear the console with a key, you can file a bug against platform debug if you would like
[17:53:31] <robot_jesus> that would be nice
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[17:53:55] <iElectric> I've read that on mailing lists, well thanks anyway :)
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[17:56:36] <rcjsuen> SamuraiDio: If you don't like it, you could try filing a bug.
[17:59:33] <rcjsuen> ~tell mib_ujewm1dw about remove-deps
[17:59:53] <rcjsuen> Looks like I lost that macro.
[18:00:05] <rcjsuen> mib_ujewm1dw: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_not_install_a_plug-in.27s_extraneous_dependency_when_I.27m_in_the_Update_Manager.3F
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[18:01:00] <rcjsuen> ~add remove-deps Wondering why you have to install another plug-in? Maybe you don't actually have to! See http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_not_install_a_plug-in.27s_extraneous_dependency_when_I.27m_in_the_Update_Manager.3F
[18:01:01] <KOS-MOS> The new keyword "remove-deps" has been stored. In the future, you can ask me about "remove-deps" and I will respond.
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[18:11:38] <dotsintacks> is there an easy way to install a dark color scheme?
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[18:23:05] <zx> dotsintacks: I don't know of anything off the top of my head... I'd probably google around as I know people who prefer dark schemes for their eyes
[18:23:27] <robot_jesus> eww i hate the dark colors
[18:23:38] <dotsintacks> zx: there's a radrails specific one
[18:23:58] <dotsintacks> zx: but I didn't find any eclipse ones
[18:24:00] <dotsintacks> :(
[18:27:41] <zx> dotsintacks: maybe you can be the first that blogs about it... it should be possible to set something up in preferences and save those
[18:28:18] <dotsintacks> lol I just have work to do but after coming back from textmate its...difficult hehe
[18:35:13] <pombreda> Kako: how to switch from easyeclipse  to eclipse without loosing your settings, that was your question :-P
[18:35:35] <pombreda> Kako: join me back on #easyeclipse and I'll answer there
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[18:41:41] <mib_bjjr7zb8> is there a preferred irc channel for eclipse rcp development?
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[18:42:58] <ijuma> mib_bjjr7zb8: this is the one
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[18:44:01] <mib_bjjr7zb8> k, thanks... just read zx's post of mibbit and figured i'd find an irc channel to idle in :)
[18:44:20] <zx> mib_bjjr7zb8: you're in it
[18:44:32] <zx> mib_bjjr7zb8: IRC + newsgroups are your best bet
[18:44:46] <njbartlett> zx: I tried mibbit at work... it's blocked already
[18:45:07] <zx> njbartlett: bastards, I guess you have to resort to old school SSH tunneling ;)
[18:45:16] <njbartlett> zx: Tried that already
[18:45:35] <njbartlett> Got myself a warning from the computer security incident response team
[18:45:40] <njbartlett> Second time I do it, I'll be fired
[18:45:44] <zx> njbartlett: I have a feeling you either work for the govt or the financial industry
[18:45:45] <zx> :)
[18:45:46] <ijuma> "computer security incident response team", haha
[18:46:01] <njbartlett> The latter
[18:46:07] <njbartlett> I wouldn't work for the government, the pay is shit
[18:46:10] <zx> yap, wouldn't surprise me
[18:46:47] <ijuma> the financial industry on the other hand...
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[18:47:56] <mib_ujewm1dw> Requested operation cannot be performed because it would invalidate the current configuration. See details for more information.
[18:48:37] <mib_ujewm1dw> Data Tools Platform Model Base (1.5.2.200802201) requires feature "org.eclipse.emf (2.2.0)", or later version.
[18:48:46] <mib_ujewm1dw> anyone know what this means?
[18:49:00] <mib_ujewm1dw> i have latest eclipse
[18:49:03] <ijuma> you need to install emf like it says :)
[18:49:12] <ijuma> it should be available through europa
[18:49:50] <ijuma> zx: soon 50% of the channel will consist of nicks starting with mib_
[18:50:04] <ijuma> zx: I hope you're happy ;)
[18:50:55] <mib_ujewm1dw> ijuma so it doesn't screw things up if i just add all those plugins from the update sites, say, from the "eclipse project updates" site?
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[18:51:09] <mib_ujewm1dw> because it looks like those are older versions of eclipse
[18:51:25] <mib_ujewm1dw> i was wondering if that's also the case with other "update sites"
[18:51:53] <ijuma> mib_ujewm1dw: as long as you use the right update center you're fine. If you're using eclipse 3.4M5, then use the Ganymede one. If you're using Eclipse 3.3.2, then use Europa
[18:53:40] <mib_ujewm1dw> ok ty
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[18:54:45] <ijuma> np
[18:55:15] <pombreda> hey if you are using a lot the eclipse XML, CSS, HTML and CSS editors, you may want to vote for those enhancement requests:
[18:55:16] <pombreda> ~221696
[18:55:16] <pombreda> ~221697
[18:55:17] <KOS-MOS> Bug 221696 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=221696 - Web Tools / wst.sse / unspecified - All / All - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee: wst.sse-inbox at eclipse dot org - Format on save
[18:55:18] <KOS-MOS> Bug 221697 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=221697 - Web Tools / wst.sse / unspecified - All / All - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee: wst.sse-inbox at eclipse dot org - Shared settings such as formatting
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[18:59:18] <mib_ujewm1dw> wow there are soooo many "plugins/updates" with broken dependencies.....are there any pre-configured versions, like easyeclipse - that are highly recommended by the community?
[18:59:51] <mib_ujewm1dw> i just wanted a java ide with database devel tools
[19:00:53] <ijuma> mib_ujewm1dw: You can click "Select required" and it finds all of them for you
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[19:06:48] <mohbana> is -date workspacepath meant to override my current workspace path?
[19:07:02] <mib_ujewm1dw> ijuma "An error has occurred. See error log for more details.java.lang.NullPointerException"
[19:07:13] <mib_ujewm1dw> whenever i try to run updates
[19:07:31] <ijuma> mohbana: -data
[19:07:41] <philk__> whats the equivalent for ServiceTracker? ExtensionTracker seems not
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[19:08:06] <mib_ujewm1dw> and now it won't let me remove the subclipse update site
[19:08:09] <ijuma> mib_ujewm1dw: as you can imagine, that's not supposed to happen ;)
[19:08:42] <mib_ujewm1dw> when i added subclipse, it added 2 entries
[19:08:53] <mib_ujewm1dw> one of them i couldn't remove
[19:09:30] <pombreda> mib_ujewm1dw: being an easyeclipse maintainer, I would highly recommend easyeclipse, but then again I am biased :-D
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[19:10:18] <ijuma> pombreda: just a little bit ;)
[19:10:27] <pombreda> :-P
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[19:10:47] <mib_ujewm1dw> pombreda easyeclipse is the best way to go for beginners?
[19:10:59] <pombreda> ijuma: have you noticed that sublicpse is not releasing binaries anym,ore, btw?
[19:11:30] <pombreda> mib_ujewm1dw: the best is always relative, but it has been designed to help eclipse newcommers get something all-in-one quickly
[19:12:38] <ijuma> pombreda: it isn't? I thought it's because it requires javahl 1.5 and subversion 1.5 is still not final
[19:12:45] <pombreda> mib_ujewm1dw: I will be happy if you give it a shot. the server java distro si probably what you want.
[19:13:10] <ijuma> it would make sense not to publish it too widely atm
[19:13:19] <mib_ujewm1dw> pombreda that includes some kind of db support?
[19:13:22] <pombreda> ijuma: possibly then, I am just surprised that no binaries were dropped since last August. not even mielstones, despite they work actiavley and have tagged some in svn
[19:13:47] <mib_ujewm1dw> i just need java + derby or some kind of db
[19:14:28] <ijuma> pombreda: http://subclipse.tigris.org/subclipse_1.4.x/changes.html
[19:14:32] <pombreda> mib_bjjr7zb8: yes it includes db support with the eclipse data tools, including derby . the alternative could be to use the expert java distro and add the quantum plugin for a simpler stuff
[19:14:49] <ijuma> pombreda: needs a username + password
[19:14:53] <ijuma> to access the update site
[19:15:24] <mib_ujewm1dw> pombreda ummm even if i'm no expert?
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[19:15:42] <pombreda> ijuma: aha! I had missed that. but a username +pass sucks badly
[19:15:56] <pombreda> mib_ujewm1dw: even if you are no expert :-P
[19:16:33] <ijuma> mib_ujewm1dw: that is the point, easyeclipse is about making it easy for anyone, no matter the expertise level ;)
[19:17:17] <ijuma> pombreda: that username + password thing is weird
[19:17:34] <pombreda> ijuma: try gues and no pass
[19:17:39] <pombreda> *guest
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[19:17:57] <pombreda> ijuma: I woudl not say it any better :-)
[19:18:15] <ijuma> pombreda: that works, but then it gives an "item not found"
[19:18:24] <pombreda> mib_ujewm1dw: and ifg it does not work you can also slap me with a dead trout here
[19:18:32] <ijuma> ah
[19:18:33] <ijuma> that makes sense
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[19:18:40] <ijuma> the last tag is not yet done
[19:18:44] <ijuma> but the previous one works
[19:18:54] <pombreda> ijuma: not really those are supposed to be SVN experts, and their svn config is kinda weid :-D
[19:19:03] <pombreda> *weird
[19:19:15] <ijuma> pombreda: i mean that "item not found" makes sense. Requiring a guest account is lame, i agree :)
[19:19:22] <pombreda> yes
[19:19:22] <ijuma> but i think that's a collabnet problem
[19:19:25] <ijuma> all their sites have it
[19:19:30] <ijuma> including java.net
[19:19:37] <ijuma> (which runs on collabnet)
[19:19:46] <pombreda> yep somehow that collabnet thingy is a problem for sure
[19:19:46] <getBoa> Hey fellas, Does eclipse3/Europa have any struts plugin ?
[19:19:47] <ijuma> and I agree with you... SVN experts should do better :)
[19:20:20] <pombreda> getBoa: there was Strusts support with easystruts then strutsbox. none work with europa anymore
[19:20:45] <pombreda> getBoa: your best bet atmn is ametras: http://amateras.sourceforge.jp/cgi-bin/fswiki_en/wiki.cgi?page=StrutsIDE
[19:21:10] <pombreda> which has aa new drop that supports 3.3
[19:21:25] <getBoa> I'll have a look
[19:21:56] <pombreda> getBoa: I ship an previous version with easyeclipse, but not yet 33 support.
[19:22:07] <pombreda> so get it straight from the project there
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[19:22:44] <getBoa> pombreda: not yet or this project's gone ?
[19:23:32] <pombreda> getBoa: easyeclipse does not yet have the new amateras released 3 weeks ago. i willl. amateras 205 for strust works with 33 :-)
[19:23:43] <mib_ujewm1dw> pombreda why is the easyeclipse distro an exe and not a zip? just curious
[19:24:02] <ijuma> mib_ujewm1dw: because it includes a self-running installer (i would guess)
[19:24:42] <pombreda> mib_ujewm1dw: becasue it has an installer and unsinatller. it keeps track of one registry entry to it knows where it is installed, and can be used as a default when installing new plugins with installers
[19:24:46] <mib_ujewm1dw> pombreda thanks for the help... i think ee server java is the right one (fingers crossed)
[19:25:10] <pombreda> mib_ujewm1dw: you can get support on #easyeclipse if needed :-P
[19:25:17] <mib_ujewm1dw> ty
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[19:25:56] <getBoa> pombreda: StrutsIDE supports Struts 1.2... What about 1.3.8 ?
[19:26:24] <pombreda> getBoa: you'll have to ask the authors there :-)
[19:26:47] <getBoa> lol
[19:27:09] <mohbana> can someone take a look at this and tell why eclipse is refusing to start
[19:27:10] <mohbana> http://pastebin.com/d74a56a47
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[19:27:31] <getBoa> pombreda: How long have you been working with struts ?
[19:27:32] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: I thought you work "alone".
[19:27:36] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: Or the site that you were working at?
[19:27:55] <nitind> mohbana: Is /usr/bin/java a 1.5 non-gcj VM?
[19:28:05] <mohbana> nitind, its icedtea
[19:28:13] <pombreda> mohbana: do you have a 64 bits eclipse version installed, and a 64 bits Sun jvm ?
[19:28:13] <rcjsuen> pombreda: Is Save Actions abstracted out?
[19:28:32] <pombreda> rcjsuen: is 3.4? dunno
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[19:28:41] <mohbana> pombreda, yes
[19:28:43] <rcjsuen> pombreda: Thought your RFEs were regarding that
[19:28:47] <rcjsuen> since you wanted format on save
[19:28:48] <ijuma> mohbana: /usr/bin/java -version
[19:28:52] <rcjsuen> so i thot it was abstracted to Platform levle
[19:29:07] <pombreda> rcjsuen: if they are that would be awesome
[19:29:12] <mohbana> http://pastebin.com/m508b6df1
[19:29:23] <rcjsuen> IcedTea indeed.
[19:29:40] <rcjsuen> mohbana: You can a) file a bug to IcedTea, or b) get a supported JRE.
[19:29:58] <pombreda> bbiam
[19:29:59] <ijuma> mohbana: you could also look for a hs_err file
[19:30:00] <mohbana> it was working fine till i upgraded my icedtea, because the older version wasn;t working with azureus
[19:30:03] <rcjsuen> A is always nice, I'm sure they'd love that :)
[19:30:19] <ijuma> that would tell you how the vm crashed
[19:30:28] <ijuma> maybe this is that same bug that exists in jdku4
[19:30:43] <rcjsuen> ~.~
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[19:35:07] <mohbana> ./eclipse -data new-w
[19:35:08] <mohbana>   --- this should point it to a new workspace right?
[19:35:27] <paulweb515> mohbana: to the "new-w" workspace
[19:36:52] <robot_jesus> anyone want to see my new race car :)
[19:37:09] <robot_jesus> http://mccall.smugmug.com/gallery/3855853
[19:37:18] <rcjsuen> mohbana: It will start Eclipse pointing at the new-w folder in your current directory.
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[19:41:55] <mohbana> strange pointing it to a new workspace fixed the error
[19:43:02] <mib_ujewm1dw> anyone use the mark dexter eclipse tutorials? this guy's awesome.....even an idiot like me can understand him
[19:44:16] <mib_ujewm1dw> is there another tutorial series anyone recommends for beginners?
[19:45:25] <rcjsuen> mib_ujewm1dw: I've only heard about his tutorials, never gone through them myself.
[19:45:28] <dominikg> mib_ujewm1dw: help -> help contents contains some tutorials / first steps ... especially the workbench user guide and the jdt user guide are worth a read if you just started using eclipse
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[19:46:13] <dominikg> they contain screenshots and iirc there are some cheat sheets aswell (step by step walkthroughs)
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[19:46:45] <wild_oscar> when you create a JUnit for a specific class, you can choose which methods you want to test.
[19:47:08] <wild_oscar> is there a quick way to add more method testing after the creation of the junit class
[19:47:09] <wild_oscar> ?
[19:47:28] <rcjsuen> dominikg: true, the tips section is quite good
[19:47:33] <rcjsuen> although i probably forgot 80% of those tips
[19:47:34] <rcjsuen> but whatever
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[19:48:20] <dominikg> wild_oscar: don
[19:48:24] <dominikg> 't think so
[19:49:03] <ijuma> wild_oscar: type "test" and then ctrl+space
[19:49:18] <ijuma> select the first option
[19:49:23] <ijuma> i think it can't get easier than that :)
[19:50:05] <wild_oscar> yeah
[19:50:10] <wild_oscar> well, it's something ;)
[19:50:13] <wild_oscar> thanks anyway
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[19:50:35] <ijuma> np
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[19:51:51] <mib_ujewm1dw> bluh whats the big diff between callisto, europa, ganymede? other than mass, avg radius of curvature,...
[19:52:04] <nitind> They're alphabetized.
[19:52:25] <rcjsuen> nitind: well how about that
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[19:52:30] <rcjsuen> i never thought of it that way
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[19:53:05] <mib_ujewm1dw> jupiter has enough moons to get most of the alphabet......but about eclipse, any big deal to a devel?
[19:53:44] <nitind> mib_ujewm1dw: They're the annual releases, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4, etc., with a number of project doing their releases at the same time.
[19:54:11] <mib_ujewm1dw> ty
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[19:56:49] <mib_ujewm1dw> anyone actually read the licensing agreement with easyeclipse distros?
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[19:57:33] <mib_ujewm1dw> like, must i give my soul to satan if i install easyeclipse?
[19:57:50] <dominikg> mib_ujewm1dw: no, you have to give it to pombreda ;)
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[19:57:53] <mib_ujewm1dw> or something in fine print or swedish that i dont comprehend?
[19:58:05] <mib_ujewm1dw> lol ok well in that's fine
[19:58:19] <jottinger> okay, maybe this is a dumb question.. but how do I tell eclipse to package a project as a jar in a plugin? (i.e., myplugin uses classes from myproject; I want myproject to be packaged as part of the plugin.)
[19:58:27] <ijuma> mib_ujewm1dw: it's only for a certain about of time though
[19:58:56] <nitind> jottinger: I don't think that'll happen automatically, but why not just make that other project a plug-in as well?
[19:59:16] <jottinger> nitind: because the other project has base classes for the activation process.
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[20:00:36] <jottinger> I have a BundleActivator that does a lot of little simple things to save me work; until Spring DM doesn't suck, this seems like a valid alternative... as long as the classes can exist in the plugin's classpath.
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[20:04:14] <jottinger> osgi is really nice in potential but in practice it's a PITA. :(
[20:06:39] <jottinger> nitind: what's the "best approach" to doing osgi services/bundles?
[20:09:48] <pombreda> mib_ujewm1dw: this is a simple open source license. there is one for easyeclipse, and each open source plugins is under its own license. no tricks or gimmciks.
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[20:15:14] <nitind> jottinger: That's a pretty vague question, but my vague answer in response would be to make them all bundles.
[20:16:15] <jottinger> nitind: well, that's what I'm doing - but activation is a pain for each bundle
[20:16:46] <jottinger> I mean, it's not HARD - but very repetitive
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[20:18:16] <pombreda> anyone with pde-build experience with non-java plugins? they seem to be treated differently than java plugins the featch phase and forgotten in the generated assemble script
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[20:21:39] <IanLiu> Hello there. I am using Eclipse3.2 CDT to make some OpenGL programs. The point is I am not getting completion/tips from those libraries. What should I do to get them?
[20:21:55] <nitind> jottinger: oh?  why?
[20:22:07] <jottinger> why is it repetetive?
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[20:24:01] <phoenixz> Hi there, my X session just crashed and now I can not start eclipse anymore, giving me an "An error has occured, please check the log file" message.. When I check the log there is a huge load of.. information, which is not very clear on what problem eclipse is having..
[20:24:17] <phoenixz> is it possible for eclipse just to give me a plain and very clear message on what is wrong?
[20:25:09] <phoenixz> Or, maybe somebody here could tell me why eclipse won't start anymore because of an X crash?
[20:25:23] <dominikg> phoenixz, possibly it did, its maybe just not clear to you...
[20:25:27] <dominikg> ~logs
[20:25:28] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[20:25:31] <dominikg> ~pastebin
[20:25:32] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
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[20:26:18] <nitind> jottinger: Sort of, if A requires B, B will do its startup and then A will (neither of which are intended to be large amounts of work).
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[20:26:35] <dominikg> post the part from the last startup only (there is a block about eclipse and java version, just scroll up from the end of the log)
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[20:27:36] <jottinger> nitind: it's the registerservice stuff that I'm trying to abstract out
[20:28:01] <jottinger> i.e., I have a base class, and subclasses are specialized only in that they have some configuration data bout WHICH services to start up
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[20:28:22] <phoenixz> dominikg> could you then check this?   http://rafb.net/p/C1HgaN66.html
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[20:28:39] <phoenixz> or anybody, could you take a look at http://rafb.net/p/C1HgaN66.html and tell me why eclipse suddenly won't start up anymore?
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[20:29:38] <phoenixz> dominikg> since eclipse has all log times wrong (it says 19:26 today, but its 13:29...) I don't really even know if Im sending you the correct part of the log
[20:29:53] <rcjsuen> phoenixz: rename your logs, start eclipse, get that new log file
[20:30:11] <rcjsuen> anyway, looks like your workspace got hosed
[20:30:56] <phoenixz> sorry for the sarcasm here but..  I can't work like this.. Eclipse really looks great but its ALWAYS having problems.. There is not a single program here that comes even near eclipse in problems with starting up.. its like playing friggin russian roulette, just hoping that it will work..
[20:31:09] <dominikg> phoenixz java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/eclipse/core/resources/IContainer sounds like something is wrong the the classpath of the vm that runs eclipse..
[20:31:14] <phoenixz> now there is an X crash and again, eclipse is dead.. where is the logical reason for this?!
[20:31:19] <nitind> phoenixz: Yes, which JRE are you using?
[20:31:22] <dominikg> any chance you are on ubuntu and use eclipse from its repo?
[20:31:25] <phoenixz> dominikg> nothing has changed, everything is the same...
[20:31:39] <rcjsuen> I'll bet you can start Eclipse on a non-existent workspace.
[20:32:02] <phoenixz> dominikg> yeah, already fixed that problem long time ago.. I was using eclipse 30 minutes ago.. all was okay, and then X crashed, and now eclipse won;t start...
[20:32:43] <rcjsuen> try
[20:32:48] <rcjsuen> ./eclipse -data /path/to/something/else
[20:32:50] <rcjsuen> that starts, right?
[20:32:55] <dominikg> i agree with rcjsuen
[20:33:01] <ijuma> lol
[20:33:07] <ijuma> that's not very helpful though
[20:33:16] <rcjsuen> From the error, it looks like the workspace is corrupted.
[20:33:17] <phoenixz> non existing workspace? you mean the basic working directory? its there, it was there, its still there..
[20:33:19] <rcjsuen> Or how should I put it
[20:33:22] <ijuma> getting a workspace hosed on a crash is quite nasty
[20:33:23] <rcjsuen> the workspace's "tree"
[20:33:33] <rcjsuen> ijuma: Well, I want to confirm that at least.
[20:33:34] <phoenixz> fixed.. I moved the .metadata directory to something else and it starts again..
[20:33:44] <phoenixz> now, I just have to re-configure all of eclipse, *again*
[20:33:53] <ijuma> rcjsuen: sure
[20:33:58] <rcjsuen> phoenixz: Well, that confirmed my suspicion anyway.
[20:34:21] <rcjsuen> phoenixz: You could try deleting .metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.core.resources/.root/
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[20:34:42] <rcjsuen> ijuma: but yeah, workspace recovery is not very good at the o.e.c.resources level
[20:35:04] <ijuma> what about -clean?
[20:35:08] <ijuma> does that help at all?
[20:35:11] <rcjsuen> I remember this happening a few weeks ago, someone deleted some file.
[20:35:22] <rcjsuen> I don't remember which one exactly, but it was in the o.e.c.r place somewhere.
[20:35:35] <rcjsuen> ijuma: I don't think so, but it is worth a try.
[20:35:37] <rcjsuen> ~tell phoenixz about clean
[20:35:38] <KOS-MOS> phoenixz: Please try restarting Eclipse with the '-clean' argument. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_have_just_installed_a_plug-in_but_I_do_not_see_any_indication_of_it_in_my_workspace._What_do_I_do.3F
[20:35:40] <phoenixz> rcjsuen> Just a "would be nice" then for the eclipse crew.. fix that!! its very very not funny having to spend 10% of my development time on trying to keep eclipse running..
[20:36:21] <phoenixz> rcjsuen> okay, let me try that.. I'll remove the new .metadata dir, put back the other one (the bad one) and restart it wtih -clean
[20:36:28] <rcjsuen> phoenixz: There's probably a bug already, but you could feel free to file another one.
[20:36:31] <ijuma> phoenixz: fwiw most people don't have the problems you're having with the core distribution (there are plenty of plug-ins that cause eclipse to be less than stable though)
[20:36:35] <rcjsuen> phoenixz: If clean doesn't work, try what I said above. ^
[20:37:11] <rcjsuen> Or maybe the guy deleted the .safetable folder, hm
[20:37:16] <ijuma> hard crashes can cause problems in many apps, however
[20:38:38] <phoenixz> rcjsuen> well, the -clean option didnt work
[20:38:46] <rcjsuen> Should talk to Szymon or z4z4 some time and see what's the proper way.
[20:39:11] <rcjsuen> phoenixz: try moving the .root and/or .safetable folder out then
[20:39:19] <phoenixz> I'll try so..
[20:39:20] <rcjsuen> (or deleting if you're feeling adventurous)
[20:39:35] <phoenixz> rcjsuen> Im working on a copy of the .metadata file
[20:39:40] <phoenixz> directory, sorry
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[20:40:59] <rcjsuen> There's also that one another way.
[20:41:06] <rcjsuen> ~list
[20:41:07] <KOS-MOS> Check out the list of available messages and commands I provide - http://ecf.eclipse.org/~rcjsuen/messages.html - http://ecf.eclipse.org/~rcjsuen/commands.html
[20:41:16] <rcjsuen> now what was that macro ~.~
[20:41:29] <rcjsuen> Guess I lost it during one of my updates.
[20:42:05] <phoenixz> rcjsuen> well.. none of that works.. I'll just remove the .metadata dir and start over, at least then I can continue my work\
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[20:42:26] <rcjsuen> phoenixz: Do you have a .snap file?
[20:42:38] <ryanzec> can anyone help me setup php on eclipse, i have a question about it
[20:42:42] <rcjsuen> Actually, you should just destroy the core.resources and import your projects then if you're going to "start over".
[20:42:44] <rcjsuen> phoenixz: see http://letsgetdugg.com/view/Recovering_a_corrupt_Eclipse_workspace
[20:43:40] <ijuma> rcjsuen: talked to robogeek about that jdk6u4 problem. He said he'd look into it
[20:43:53] <rcjsuen> ijuma: whoever that is, but grrrrrrrrrrrreat ;)
[20:44:05] <ijuma> rcjsuen: do you still have that eclipse bugzilla reference?
[20:44:14] <rcjsuen> no, but i can try and find
[20:44:21] <rcjsuen> mmmmm
[20:44:35] <ijuma> rcjsuen: that would be useful :)
[20:44:47] <rcjsuen> ~214092
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[20:44:49] <KOS-MOS> Bug 214092 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=214092 - Platform / Resources / 3.3.1 - PC / Linux - RESOLVED / NOT_ECLIPSE / major / - Assignee: platform-resources-inbox at eclipse dot org - regular JVM crash in org.eclipse.core.internal.dtree.DataTreeNode.forwardDeltaWith
[20:44:54] <phoenixz> rcjsuen> I'll try that one too then.. it be nice not having to loose my configuration...
[20:45:15] <rcjsuen> phoenixz: I am 99% sure the resources plug-in is the problem.
[20:45:41] <rcjsuen> ~tell phoenixz about 151075
[20:45:42] <KOS-MOS> phoenixz: Bug 151075 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=151075 - Platform / Resources / 3.2 - PC / Windows 2000 - NEW / normal / - Assignee: platform-resources-inbox at eclipse dot org - ObjectNotFoundException on startup after crash
[20:45:45] <rcjsuen> Here's your chance to get yourself heard.
[20:46:05] <ijuma> rcjsuen: thanks
[20:46:38] <phoenixz> rcjsuen> looks like that fixed it.. let me see if I can reimport my projects correctly
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[20:47:25] <phoenixz> rcjsuen> fixed! ahw, thanks a lot! life saver this one :)
[20:47:37] <phoenixz> rcjsuen> really, thanks!
[20:48:34] <rcjsuen> phoenixz: You can thank me by commenting on the bug.
[20:50:11] <phoenixz> rcjsuen> @ the link you just gave me? https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=151075
[20:50:30] <rcjsuen> yes, that
[20:50:36] <orbisvicis> is it possible to write php locally and preview remotely ?
[20:51:05] <phoenixz> rcjsuen> will do so, first have to register though
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[20:52:50] <rcjsuen> ~add recover-workspace Did you just experience a crash and Eclipse is now refusing to start? Are you seeing strange things in your logs with ObjectNotFoundExceptions complaining about missing tree elements? See http://letsgetdugg.com/view/Recovering_a_corrupt_Eclipse_workspace and ~151075
[20:52:51] <KOS-MOS> The new keyword "recover-workspace" has been stored. In the future, you can ask me about "recover-workspace" and I will respond.
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[20:54:49] <orbisvicis> ...without doing the whole sftp - eclipse - firefox thing
[20:56:28] <ijuma> rcjsuen: have you been using the p2 builds?
[20:57:04] <rcjsuen> ijuma: was tlaking to yjob and friends on #equinox-dev just now
[20:57:08] <rcjsuen> ijuma: Gonna start now I s'pose
[20:57:19] <ijuma> rcjsuen: cool
[20:57:52] <rcjsuen> ijuma: why do you ask?
[20:58:06] <ijuma> rcjsuen: was just curious if there was anything interesting there ;)
[20:58:21] <rcjsuen> ijuma: Well, I don't really use plug-ins :x
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[20:59:07] <ryanzec> is there a channel for the php plug?
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[21:02:49] <rcjsuen> ijuma: btw, about that Combo bug we were talking about yesterday, looks like it doesn't happen on win32
[21:03:00] <ijuma> rcjsuen: doesn't surprise me
[21:03:02] <rcjsuen> well, assuming it really is a bug
[21:03:11] <rcjsuen> i dunno whether modify events hsould be fired or not, but anyway
[21:03:17] <rcjsuen> either way, behaviour isn't the same on all platforms ;)
[21:03:27] <ijuma> rcjsuen: i mean, it probably would not be there if it happened on win32 ;)
[21:03:45] <rcjsuen> hehe
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[21:05:12] <Naker> I'm getting countless "mi_cmd_var_create: unable to create variable object" when debugging c++ projects on vista. Does it happen to anyone else?
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[21:06:35] <Naker> It only happens when Stepping into using F5... and not on every line.
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[21:13:33] <dajudge> hey all :)
[21:14:50] <dajudge> now the real fun starts - how would I read the java compiler compliance settings for a JDT project?
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[21:16:21] <rcjsuen> dajudge: Set a breakpoint in JavaBuilder and see what the builder does when you run Project / Clean?
[21:16:42] <IanLiu> What should I do to make Eclipse CDT provide completion and code tips for my included files?
[21:16:51] <dajudge> rcjsuen: just browsing the source of JDT's compliance property page
[21:17:14] <rcjsuen> dajudge: If that's what you meant by 'read', then that's an easy task.
[21:17:42] <dajudge> rcjsuen: with "read" i mean determining this setting from another plugin at runtime
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[21:18:32] <rcjsuen> well, that should take you no time once you look at the pref page's code :)
[21:18:53] <dajudge> rcjsuen: i guess my question is: would it be somewhat good style to use JDT's preference store along with the right constants to read those settings?
[21:19:12] <rcjsuen> That's what I would do.
[21:19:18] <rcjsuen> Might as well use their constants.
[21:19:30] <dajudge> that was a quick one really! thanks! :)
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[21:36:25] <bitshuffler_> hello
[21:37:01] <bitshuffler_> did anyone succeed in connecting to subversion 1.4.4 from eclipse 3.3.2 via subclipse 0.7?
[21:38:12] <bitshuffler_> i should add that it works just fine with eclipse 3.3.1.1
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[21:45:50] <Pluxxx> what does src mean when Im in the navigator? whats supposed to be in the src ?
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[21:46:20] <rcjsuen> Pluxxx: I think you walked "In" a folder possibly
[21:46:24] <rcjsuen> Pluxxx: maybe give us a screenshot?
[21:46:33] <Pluxxx> erhm, its a folder
[21:46:38] <Pluxxx> but whats supposed to be in the folder ?
[21:46:47] <robot_jesus> its where you keep your 'source' code
[21:46:52] <Pluxxx> ahh
[21:47:05] <Pluxxx> k, thx
[21:47:12] <robot_jesus> its a common java naming convention to have java/src, java/lib, java/config
[21:48:21] <Pluxxx> yeah, I thought so, but I couldnt see that it stands for source :P
[21:48:40] <Pluxxx> that solved my question
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[22:16:47] <mohbana> hey guys i've fixed my problem :), what do you guys use for building swt apps.  i am going to attempt to do my first in it
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[22:18:32] <robot_jesus> i use SWT
[22:18:42] <arooni> i'm getting: java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: Java heap space  when trying to open a .rb file with radrails plugin (from aptana)  ... what should i do?
[22:18:54] <robot_jesus> up the memory limit
[22:19:11] <robot_jesus> rcjsuen: whats the trigger for that factoid ?
[22:19:14] <rcjsuen> if you can't even open one file, sounds like you might have other problems
[22:19:23] <rcjsuen> i'd try opening one file on an empty workspace and see if that happen
[22:19:25] <rcjsuen> happens
[22:19:27] <rcjsuen> ~memory
[22:19:28] <KOS-MOS> Having memory problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
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[22:19:36] <Zerone> ello :)
[22:19:48] <arooni> my eclipse.ini and problems: http://pastie.caboo.se/162504
[22:19:55] <arooni> i've already adjusted my eclipse.ini
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[22:20:41] <mohbana> what do you recommend for building and swt gui?
[22:20:52] <robot_jesus> mohbana: you mean a GUI designer ?
[22:20:56] <mohbana> yes
[22:21:20] <ijuma> arooni: I am sorry to say, but I don't think anyone here will be able to help you more apart from saying increase your Xmx even more
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[22:21:36] <rcjsuen> arooni: you could try the one project one file in new worksapce thingi said
[22:21:38] <arooni> ijuma, to what level?
[22:21:39] <ijuma> arooni: are you running the latest aptana version?
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[22:21:47] <arooni> ijuma, yes i just upgraded today
[22:21:52] <robot_jesus> mohbana: swt-designer looks nice, you can try before you buy
[22:22:12] <robot_jesus> theres also a free one ( don't know the name , ) but Im not sure how good it is, it was lacking when I tried it
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[22:22:19] <ijuma> arooni: try what rcjsuen said. If that doesn't work try 1024m
[22:23:09] <ijuma> rcjsuen: do you recall if a capital 'M' is the same as 'm'?
[22:23:34] <robot_jesus> mohbana: but SWT is setup nicely for programatic development with it, you might try doing it that way first, then try the RAD's
[22:24:13] <ijuma> rcjsuen: "<robogeek> fw, the responsible manager replied they believe it's a dup of 6659207 access violation in CompilerThread0  ..and.. 6661016 Segmentation fault while compiling java code in eclipse  .. they'll update the bug, and possibly a fix in 6u10"
[22:24:39] <rcjsuen> 6u10 lol
[22:24:42] <rcjsuen> "fw"?
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[22:25:25] <Zerone> ello rcjsuen :)
[22:25:31] <ijuma> rcjsuen: fw is just someone's nick. Don't take update numbers that literally ;)
[22:25:38] <rcjsuen> Zerone: hi
[22:25:56] <rcjsuen> ijuma: heheh
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[22:25:56] <ijuma> rcjsuen: https://jdk6.dev.java.net/6uNea.html
[22:26:03] <ijuma> that's 6u10
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[22:28:27] <arooni> is there a possibility that the existing workspace is bad and is leaking memory?
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[22:29:29] <ijuma> arooni: who knows, but that's why rcjsuen asked you to try on a new workspace
[22:29:50] <arooni> i dont know how to open with a new workspace
[22:30:05] <rcjsuen> File > Switch
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[22:36:57] <LAVILA> anybody tryed to open resources within jars within a java web start deployment?? I am having a lot of problems with this, I need some example coed
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[22:37:17] <LAVILA> all this in a RCP app
[22:38:06] <arooni> now i cant even start eclipse :( java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread
[22:38:35] <arooni> any ideas?
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[22:41:30] <robot_jesus> re-install eclipse :) ?
[22:41:45] <arooni> oh noes
[22:41:46] <arooni> really?
[22:42:02] <robot_jesus> install it in a different directory and see if it works
[22:42:11] <robot_jesus> how long have you had your current distro ?
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[22:42:19] <XinTaaH> question, i'm using eclipse C++ development tool and i need to start the program like 3 times until the progress bar in the splashscreen appears and the program runs
[22:42:30] <XinTaaH> anyway knows whats up?
[22:42:33] <XinTaaH> anyone
[22:42:44] <arooni> robinr, forever; i did install eclipse 3.3 separately as ubuntu only has eclipse 3.2
[22:42:49] <ijuma> arooni: "eclipse -data <emptyDir>"
[22:43:07] <ijuma> arooni: where <emptyDir> is an empty directory
[22:43:39] <arooni> ijuma, same error
[22:44:14] <arooni> what blew up?  :(
[22:44:26] <ijuma> arooni: your Xmx is too high
[22:44:30] <ijuma> arooni: what is it atm?
[22:44:46] <arooni> ijuma, i itried -Xmx1024m and -Xmx512mb
[22:44:49] <arooni> i mean m
[22:44:59] <ijuma> arooni: ok, try reducing your MaxPermGen
[22:45:05] <ijuma> i mean MaxPermSize
[22:45:10] <ijuma> make it 160m
[22:45:10] <arooni> right now its 512m
[22:45:17] <arooni> what should Xmx be at?
[22:45:27] <ijuma> try Xmx1024m still
[22:45:34] <ijuma> see if that helps
[22:45:35] <arooni> same error :(
[22:45:59] <ijuma> arooni: try 768m again?
[22:45:59] <arooni> Error occurred during initialization of VM
[22:45:59] <arooni> java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: unable to create new native thread
[22:45:59] <arooni>         at java.lang.Thread.start0(Native Method)
[22:45:59] <arooni> \
[22:46:07] <arooni> ijuma, for which ?  Xmx ?
[22:46:11] <ijuma> yes
[22:46:30] <arooni> same error
[22:46:39] <ijuma> that's weird
[22:46:56] <ijuma> arooni: do you have another eclipse open perhaps?
[22:47:09] <ijuma> something is taking a lot of your memory causing the VM to fail
[22:47:17] <arooni> ps -lA | ack eclipse  => nothing
[22:47:28] <arooni> my version of eclipse in /usr/bin/eclipse still works (but its 3.22)
[22:47:38] <ijuma> arooni: what if you replace eclipse with java in your ps?
[22:48:51] <arooni> ijuma, nothing; but if i run /usr/bin/eclipse i guess it works
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[22:49:15] <arooni> whoever wrote the aptana plugin should be fired
[22:49:19] <ijuma> lol
[22:49:26] <nitind> Aptana is not just one plug-in.
[22:49:29] <arooni> ok i think i'll stay at version 0.80
[22:49:36] <arooni> and i'll wait for them to release 1.0
[22:49:43] <arooni> 0.93 seems buggy and terrible
[22:49:49] <arooni> any problem with staying with eclipse 3.22?
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[22:50:37] <rcjsuen> "problems" like most people can't help you because they don't use 3.2.x, not having latest bug fixes
[22:50:44] <rcjsuen> the usual deal with using software that's old
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[22:56:49] <mohbana> how can i set the @author var that is used by javadoc?
[22:57:03] <rcjsuen> mohbana: check the preferences, the templates
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[22:58:41] <MontyCarleau> Hey all, in Eclipse, when the build path says "Excluded: **" does that mean that everything is being excluded?
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[23:05:41] <paulweb515> MontyCarleau: which tab?
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[23:06:37] <MontyCarleau> Source
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[23:07:54] <paulweb515> I think ** means everything, I think they use that like in ant
[23:08:11] <paulweb515> MontyCarleau: for example, you can say com/examples/**/*Test.java
[23:08:12] <MontyCarleau> So does that mean it excludes everything?
[23:08:23] <paulweb515> That would be my guess
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[23:09:51] <arooni> can you upgrade 3.2.x to 3.3 without re downlaoding eclipse
[23:09:54] <arooni> form eclipse's site
[23:09:57] <rcjsuen> arooni: Negative.
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[23:11:16] <mohbana> is there anyway using the same key in a LinkedHashMap<K,V>?
[23:11:21] <mohbana> as in repeated key
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[23:12:05] <oregano> Hi
[23:12:56] <oregano> ive a Problem, after i installed a svn plugin eclipse dosnt sugget me any names of a method anymore if i type e.g. $_object->
[23:13:09] <oregano> anyone has an idea why?
[23:13:18] <rcjsuen> ~tell oregano about nature
[23:13:19] <KOS-MOS> oregano: Need to assign a nature to a project by hand? http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_manually_assign_a_project_Nature_or_BuildCommand.3F
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[23:14:07] <oregano> Sorry dont understand, my english is not the best
[23:14:21] <rcjsuen> oregano: read the link, assign a php nature to your project, the end
[23:14:27] <rcjsuen> assuming you are using PDT not phpeclipse
[23:15:07] <oregano> yes pdt
[23:15:37] <oregano> also the comments /** dosnt autocomplete anymore ;(
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[23:16:39] <oregano> have it write the lines in every project?
[23:18:21] <rcjsuen> say what now
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[23:20:05] <oregano> dosnt work
[23:22:10] <rcjsuen> oregano: Does your project have a pdt nature?
[23:22:30] <oregano> dont know sorry
[23:22:58] <rcjsuen> oregano: see the link above
[23:22:59] <oregano> i juck created a php project ;)
[23:23:03] <rcjsuen> and check your project's .project file
[23:23:14] <rcjsuen> oregano: on your newly created php projects content assist doesn't work you mean?
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[23:23:55] <robot_jesus> rcjsuen: what did you think of my new track car
[23:24:18] <rcjsuen> robot_jesus: I don't know anything about cars, you're asking the wrong guy.
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[23:25:51] <robot_jesus> just say you like it and we'll move on :P
[23:28:15] <oregano> i get it :D tx
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[23:34:05] <mohbana> how can i get eclipse to try to import all classes i reference
[23:34:30] <mohbana> as in when ive finsihed doing HashMap mp = ... it should import it for me
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[23:45:44] <robot_jesus> mohbana: ctrl+space
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[23:45:52] <robot_jesus> will auto import it for you if you let it complete it
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[23:52:06] <paulweb515> mohbana: and you can use CTRL+SHIFT+O to do them all at once
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[23:54:25] <mohbana> paulweb515, thanks
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[23:57:20] <robot_jesus> wow thats awesome
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[23:58:07] <ijuma> actually you can set it up to organize imports on save
[23:58:22] <rcjsuen> I used to do that
[23:58:23] <ijuma> that makes ctrl-shift-o less necessary
[23:58:42] <rcjsuen> well, I guess I still could
[23:58:42] <rcjsuen> just that i always need to clean my patches
[23:58:46] <rcjsuen> since not all projects have project-level settings, blargh
[23:58:50] <ijuma> rcjsuen: if the configuration is the same..
[23:58:53] <ijuma> ah
[23:58:56] <ijuma> rcjsuen: file a bug :)
[23:59:14] <rcjsuen> I'll have to
[23:59:21] <rcjsuen> I hate cleaning up imports everytime I make a patch
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