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[01:01:44] <shwouchk> hi
[01:02:16] <shwouchk> I'm using eclipse to develop an embedded application, and I'm having trouble setting up a debug profile
[01:02:30] <shwouchk> I can use gdb in a console just fine
[01:03:01] <shwouchk> I connect to the target using openocd which acts as a gdb server
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[01:18:23] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Any thoughts on getting Eclipse to ignore .launch files?
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[01:26:49] <nitind> rename them?
[01:27:07] <njbartlett> nitind: Not possible
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[01:27:31] <njbartlett> You see, I'm using a version control system that keeps a clean copy of the repo inside its special metadata directory
[01:27:42] <njbartlett> Kind of like the .svn directory you get with subversion
[01:28:11] <njbartlett> So if I have a .launch file in my project, Eclipse picks up both the normal copy and the one inside the VCS directory
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[01:28:34] <njbartlett> Which is really bad because if I change the file inside the VCS directory, the VCS gets confused
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[01:29:57] <njbartlett> Now, I think this would happen with Subversion as well, because Subversion also creates a clean copy inside the .svn directory. But I think the Subclipse/Subversive plugins are able to hide it somehow
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[01:31:47] <EnterUserName> hi.. Can someone give me some help with adding oracle i've googeld and cant figure out what im doing wrong.
[01:31:54] <EnterUserName> erk adding oracle jdbc..
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[01:42:30] <EnterUserName> hello. Can i ask a question here regarding eclipse/java/jar files ?
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[01:52:07] <ekuleshov> can someone help me with classloading issues in plugin dependencies?
[01:53:17] <ekuleshov> I have a stax-api-1.0.1.jar that contains javax.xml.namespace.QName. this class works ok in Java 1.4, but on Java 5 it gives java.lang.LinkageError: Class javax/xml/namespace/QName violates loader constraints
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[01:53:43] <nitind> Isn't stax part of Java 5?
[01:54:32] <ekuleshov> nitind: yes. that is why it fail on Java 5, but I need this thing work on 1.4 and 5
[01:56:17] <nitind> ekuleshov: It might be solvable by Execution Environments and optional dependencies, but I don't really know.
[01:56:59] <njbartlett> It sounds like a problem caused by bootdelegation
[01:59:24] <ekuleshov> njbartlett: what does it mean?
[01:59:25] <njbartlett> But I assume you can't just turn off boot delegation? I guess it would work if the stax-api bundle refused to resolve on Java 5
[02:00:12] <njbartlett> ekuleshov: Well there's a property in OSGi called org.osgi.framework.bootdelegation. This is a list of packages where we always ask the parent classloader (ie the boot classpath) for a class before attemping to get it from the normal OSGi imports
[02:00:28] <njbartlett> ekuleshov: Eclipse by default sets that to *, ie all packages, mainly for legacy reasons
[02:00:34] <EnterUserName> Can someone help me.. ive added the JDBC oracle driver i my external jars and it works fine from Eclipse however when i use the create jar application and run it with java it says cannot find the oracle driver?
[02:00:35] <ekuleshov> njbartlett: ouch.
[02:01:08] <njbartlett> ekuleshov: So it sounds like part of the stax library is being defined by the boot classloader, but you're getting another part from your stax-api bundle
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[02:02:07] <njbartlett> ekuleshov: If you simply omit the stax-api bundle when on Java 5 and make your imports optional, does it work? If so, it should work if we find a way to stop that bundle from resolving on Java 5
[02:03:42] <ekuleshov> njbartlett: these classes are used at compile time, which is targeted to 1.4
[02:04:30] <shwouchk> anyone?
[02:05:36] <njbartlett> Hmm
[02:06:44] <njbartlett> Actually, maybe I'm talking bollocks
[02:09:09] <njbartlett> ekuleshov: Sorry to clarify, you want to use the stax-api bundle version of the API even when on Java 5?
[02:10:09] <ekuleshov> njbartlett: not really. it is just used by Apache xmlbeans component
[02:12:36] <njbartlett> ekuleshov: I see. Then I think the key is just to make sure we get the whole API from one place, rather than half and half. Either by turning off boot delegation, which means you get the version in your stax-api bundle, or by omitting the stax-api bundle at runtime on Java 5, which means you get the version from the JRE
[02:14:07] <ekuleshov> njbartlett: java 5 don't have stax classes. it seem like I need jar without them and then put qname class into some other bundle that would be used on 1.4 somehow
[02:14:49] <njbartlett> ekuleshov: Ah, I see! Sorry...
[02:15:36] <ekuleshov> njbartlett: talking out loud sometimes help to understand problem better. :-)
[02:16:31] <njbartlett> Indeed
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[02:22:14] <njbartlett> ekuleshov: Then... I think we should turn off boot delegation, if you have control over that. And make sure the stax-api bundle does NOT import javax.xml.namespace
[02:30:00] <ekuleshov> njbartlett: that one is not an orbit bundle...
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[02:49:26] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: 'fraid not
[02:50:09] <rcjsuen> EnterUserName: I think the jar you create doesn't have the oracle jar
[02:50:51] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: the problem is that you have one in .metadata and one in project/folder level and you want to ignore the workspace one right
[02:51:22] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Not exactly
[02:51:52] <shwouchk> I'm using eclipse to develop an embedded application, and I'm having trouble setting up a debug profile. I can use gdb in a console just fine. I connect to the target using openocd which acts as a gdb server
[02:51:54] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: i have one in Project/Foo.launch, and the other in Project/.blah/Foo.launch
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[02:52:15] <convivial> hello!
[02:52:22] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: you can't rename the one that's not in SCM, right
[02:52:23] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Where .blah is the VCS's metadata directory
[02:52:25] <convivial> I can't find eclipse
[02:52:30] <rcjsuen> ohhhhhhhh i see
[02:52:31] <convivial> it keeps saying europe
[02:52:44] <convivial> I can't understand the people in euriope :(
[02:52:46] <rcjsuen> convivial: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads
[02:53:08] <njbartlett> convivial: Actually we're from another planet
[02:53:52] <convivial> rcjsuen it stills says europe :(
[02:54:06] <rcjsuen> convivial: It _is_ Eclipse though...................
[02:54:38] <convivial> i can't speak europeaneaze
[02:54:54] <njbartlett> convivial: Europe != Europa
[02:55:14] <rcjsuen> convivial: The Eclipse in question is in English.
[02:55:24] <rcjsuen> And there is also no "European" language
[02:55:42] <convivial> i live in the usa, i feel weird running software from europe:(
[02:55:56] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Yes there is, it's called English ;-)
[02:56:00] <convivial> what happen to made in america?
[02:56:00] <rcjsuen> convivial: Actually, it's software from around the world because pepole all over the place contribute to it.
[02:56:12] <rcjsuen> convivial: Nothing happened, it was never tagged as "Made in America".
[02:56:27] <convivial> oh.
[02:56:32] <convivial> hmmm.
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[02:56:45] <convivial> do yuo think it is ok to run?
[02:56:46] <rcjsuen> Well I'm glad we got that sorted out.
[02:56:58] <rcjsuen> convivial: If I didn't think that I would've said so.
[02:57:00] <convivial> can I remove the europe splash screen?
[02:57:19] <rcjsuen> convivial: With some work probably, I don't bother myself.
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[02:57:29] <convivial> :(
[02:57:32] <convivial> this is said
[02:57:33] <convivial> sad
[02:57:35] <njbartlett> I call troll.
[02:57:43] <convivial> well, thanks.
[02:57:49] <convivial> I shall install ity :(
[02:57:55] <rcjsuen> convivial: What is so sad about it
[02:58:05] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: I raise you five.
[02:58:11] <convivial> rcjsuen I am use to usa being the best at everything
[02:58:20] <convivial> with microsoft and all
[02:58:26] <njbartlett> convivial: ROTFL
[02:58:30] <rcjsuen> convivial: See above, Eclipse has people from all over the world helping.
[02:58:31] <convivial> I feel funny running soemthing not ni the usa
[02:58:37] <rcjsuen> convivial: Yes, that includes both Americans and Europeans.
[02:58:47] <convivial> ok.
[02:58:51] <rcjsuen> convivial: Actually, a lot of things you are using probably isn't "Made in USA".
[02:59:02] <convivial> what about the nasa version?
[02:59:05] <convivial> is it as good?
[02:59:10] <rcjsuen> NASA...version?
[02:59:21] <njbartlett> convivial: I'm from England, so at this point I'm going to ask you to stop speaking English, because it wasn't made in America either.
[02:59:44] <convivial> oops, that NASA Lunar Eclipse
[02:59:45] <convivial> sorry
[03:00:01] <convivial> well, i'll give it a try
[03:00:09] <rcjsuen> You do that.
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[03:03:17] <njbartlett> convivial: FYI: Lunar eclipses are natural phenomena, they happen without any help from NASA
[03:04:03] <convivial> njbartlett they are made by NASA
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[03:04:19] <convivial> njbartlett NASA has the smartest people in the world
[03:04:23] <convivial> no one can beat them.
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[03:04:39] <benny`work> ?
[03:04:42] <convivial> are you guys terrorist or something?
[03:04:50] <njbartlett> convivial: Well they use Eclipse RCP so you may have a point
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[03:04:56] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: Agreed.
[03:04:57] <njbartlett> benny`work: Just a troll
[03:05:06] <benny`work> njbartlett, :p
[03:06:37] <shwouchk> I'm using eclipse to develop an embedded application, and I'm having trouble setting up a debug profile. I can use gdb in a console just fine. I connect to the target using openocd which acts as a gdb server
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[11:33:58] <shwouchk> I'm using eclipse to develop an embedded application, and I'm having trouble setting up a debug profile. I can use gdb in a console just fine. I connect to the target using openocd which acts as a gdb server
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[11:50:45] <safak> I have a process running in the background for 12 hours and it won't end 68% and I shut down and restart eclipse and it still runs
[11:52:43] <safak> Building workspace
[11:53:30] <ijuma> safak: do you use any plug-ins?
[11:53:35] <safak> yes
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[11:54:04] <safak> ijuma: the ajax toolkit framework
[11:54:52] <ijuma> i haven't used that, so can't help, but from my experience long running "building workspace" rarely happens with JDT alone
[11:55:24] <ijuma> most times it's caused by some other plug-in (a common example is that maven plug-ins)
[11:55:34] <safak> yes, that's true
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[12:02:23] <safak> can I stop the building workspace (cancelled) process ?
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[12:03:15] <safak> maybe clean the workspace ?
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[12:11:00] <dominikg> safak, if it is cancelled, it is stopped, right? clean workspace would cause a new build - workspace process
[12:12:06] <safak> dominikg: is there a command "clean workspace" somewhere ?
[12:12:27] <ijuma> yes, Build -> Clean
[12:12:37] <ijuma> oops
[12:12:40] <ijuma> Project -> Clean
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[12:12:46] <dominikg> project -> clean (theres an option 'all projects')
[12:12:51] <safak> ah ok
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[12:21:39] <Mega_byte> hi, anyone can help please? I'm using eclipse with zenddebugger, running a page debug "as php script", all variables are tracked but once I click on link on the page, there is no output... :/ the page works normally in the browsers, any ideas?
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[12:26:56] <codeRat> I have a problem with Ganymede M5. The autocomplete doesn't work "no proposals".
[12:27:14] <codeRat> Anyone knows what would couse this..
[12:29:16] <njbartlett> codeRat: Open Window -> Preferences...
[12:29:37] <njbartlett> codeRat: Go to Java -> Editor -> Content Assist -> Advanced
[12:30:15] <njbartlett> codeRat: Then ensure all the checkboxes in the upper table are checked. Click Ok and see if proposals are working again
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[12:30:50] <codeRat> Thank you :D
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[12:48:01] <mateusz_> Hi
[12:48:15] <mateusz_> I get the following error
[12:48:16] <mateusz_> /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/svg_loader.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[12:48:19] <mateusz_> with eclipse winter
[12:48:24] <mateusz_> while fall does work
[12:48:38] <mateusz_> svg_loader is 64bit
[12:48:49] <mateusz_> and I downloaded eclipse for x86_64
[12:48:55] <mateusz_> a bug?
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[12:52:07] <mateusz_> ANY HELP?
[12:52:36] <dominikg> mateusz_, where do you get that error?
[12:52:50] <mateusz_> dominikg: when I try to run eclipse
[12:52:55] <dominikg> popup on startup or logfile?
[12:52:56] <mateusz_> dominikg: fall works as before
[12:53:05] <mateusz_> dominikg: console
[12:53:57] <dominikg> hmm, did you run it with a 64bit vm / tried updating gtk?
[12:54:22] <mateusz_> dominikg: as I said eclipse x86_64 fall does work
[12:54:31] <mateusz_> all packages are amd64
[12:54:36] <mateusz_> also sun-java6 is
[12:55:18] <mateusz_> just started and closed europa-fall
[12:55:36] <mateusz_> the winter version does not work for my friend on i386 but he get diffrent error
[12:56:08] <mateusz_> I downloaded version for x86_64 and also does not work
[12:56:08] <dominikg> yes, but the launcher tries to chose a runtime, and that may default to something else. I didn't mean to offend, its just that this is/was the cause for many problems (i ran into that myself aswell)
[12:56:08] <mateusz_> but I have diffrent error as well
[12:56:20] <mateusz_> dominikg: ?
[12:56:38] <dominikg> ~logs
[12:56:38] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[12:56:43] <mateusz_> dominikg: you mean java I have ? defalult is 1.6.0_04
[12:58:07] <dominikg> in the log it should state which vm was used to start eclipse. I agree its unlikely, but worth a look.
[12:58:34] <mateusz_> dominikg: a popup dialog goes up
[12:58:41] <mateusz_> and it states something about org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.gtk.linux.x86_1.0.3.R33x_v20080118/eclipse_1023.so
[12:58:59] <mateusz_> should not it be x86_64 instead of x86 ?
[12:59:37] <mateusz_> dominikg: the problem is with library, one of libraries is 32 and the one is 64
[12:59:48] <mateusz_> wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[12:59:57] <dominikg> file a bug then: ~bugs
[12:59:58] <mateusz_> dominikg: I am sure my system library is 64
[12:59:58] <KOS-MOS> Eclipse Bugzilla - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/
[13:00:48] <mateusz_> dominikg: well fall works for me, I dont need to file a bug
[13:00:49] <mateusz_> but...
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[13:01:05] <mateusz_> packaging to release should be done by person with 64bit system
[13:01:29] <mateusz_> dominikg: winter does not work also on fresh ubuntu installation i386
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[13:01:54] <mateusz_> dominikg: that makes me sure, that libraries are messed up
[13:03:36] <mateusz_> dominikg: yeap...
[13:03:47] <mateusz_> dominikg: this should be x86_64
[13:03:48] <njbartlett> What's this fall/winter thing? Eclipse doesn't have versions named after seasons. How are you obtaining Eclipse?
[13:04:06] <mateusz_> njbartlett: it has
[13:04:16] <dominikg> njbartlett, 3.3.1 was named fall maintance and 3.3.2 winter (i think)
[13:04:27] <njbartlett> Oh right
[13:04:34] <njbartlett> First time I've heard that, sorry
[13:04:39] <mateusz_> njbartlett: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/europa/winter/eclipse-jee-europa-winter-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[13:05:09] <mateusz_> ok the link is wrong
[13:05:10] <mateusz_> sorry
[13:05:18] <mateusz_> it says 64
[13:05:22] <mateusz_> but its 32 ;/
[13:05:27] <njbartlett> mateusz_: Then I agree with dominikg, file a bug.
[13:05:29] <mateusz_> there is another link, the correct one
[13:05:52] <mateusz_> bad design of page
[13:06:57] <mateusz_> njbartlett: however mu friend can not run this version on i386
[13:07:26] <mateusz_> njbartlett: but he gets diffrent error about some missing runtime
[13:07:55] <dominikg> mateusz_, if its a fresh ubuntu install, check your friends vm. ubuntu comes with gcj as default.
[13:07:57] <mateusz_> njbartlett: it looks like java does not see some of his eclipse jar files.. while there are in package
[13:07:58] <dominikg> ~gcj
[13:07:59] <KOS-MOS> GCJ is not officially supported by Eclipse as a Java runtime environment. Please talk with your distribution's packaging team and/or the GCJ team for assistance. To run Eclipse with a different JVM, see: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I_just_installed_Eclipse_on_Linux.2C_but_it_does_not_start._What_is_the_problem.3F
[13:08:11] <mateusz_> dominikg: yes we did install sun's java
[13:09:03] <mateusz_> dominikg: and its 1.6.0 now
[13:09:03] <dominikg> are you forcing it with -vm on startup?
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[13:09:03] <njbartlett> mateusz_: I might be able to help your friend if I see the exact error. But your problem is different and it sounds like something that needs to be raised as a bug.
[13:09:03] <ruepelor> hello
[13:10:01] <mateusz_> njbartlett: well this is not a bug.. just wrong links on webpage it states linux x86_64 and there is link for 32bit version. I am downloading the diffrent one..
[13:10:21] <mateusz_> njbartlett: as it comes to my friend.. I'll have to ask him to join this channal
[13:10:46] <njbartlett> mateusz_: Sorry why is it not a bug? You mean there's a version on the website that DOES work for you? If so then it's a bug in the website :-)
[13:10:47] <mateusz_> dominikg: I dont think he is forcing vm
[13:11:10] <mateusz_> njbartlett: yes a bit wrong design
[13:14:16] <ruepelor> i have a problem. i can't read black text on a dark green background. but i didn't find an option to change these colors http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eclipseib2.png
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[13:15:44] <njbartlett> ruepelor: What is that thing??
[13:16:05] <ruepelor> it's a hint
[13:16:28] <njbartlett> ruepelor: Oh like a hover? Weird. Which OS... looks like Vista?
[13:16:37] <ruepelor> i mean hover
[13:16:38] <ruepelor> sorry
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[13:16:43] <ruepelor> i am on archlinux
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[13:17:13] <ruepelor> but when i change my desktop theme the colors don't change
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[13:17:57] <mateusz_> njbartlett: This is my page view http://cannibal.kaduk.net/~mateusz/zrzutekranu.png and hand points to bad link. As it states that the archive should be for linux x86_64 but link points to 32bit version.
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[13:19:16] <njbartlett> mateusz_: Ah I see. Actually that does make a certain amount of sense. Those three links to the most common three OSes are nothing to do with the OS that's been detected.
[13:19:31] <njbartlett> mateusz_: So you should click the link on the left
[13:20:32] <rcjsuen> Yeah I hate that.
[13:20:51] <rcjsuen> shwouchk: Did you try asking on the newsgroup?
[13:20:52] <mateusz_> njbartlett: this is misleading
[13:21:47] <njbartlett> mateusz_: I guess. If you raise a bug against the website then somebody might fix it.
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[13:22:33] <rcjsuen> There is a bug already.
[13:22:38] <mateusz_> njbartlett: do You know if sun will release java update for x86_64 systems adding missing mozilla plugin ? ;/
[13:22:51] <rcjsuen> But I think they WONTFIX'd it or something (ridiculous) like that.
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[13:23:47] <ruepelor> anyone any ideas how to change the hover color of javadoc infos?
[13:24:11] <rcjsuen> ruepelor: It should technically be in the preferences.
[13:24:26] <ruepelor> but there isn't any option for it...
[13:25:40] <njbartlett> mateusz_: I have no idea what Sun are planning to do, sorry
[13:26:09] <ruepelor> in which file are the option if eclipse saved?
[13:26:13] <rcjsuen> ruepelor: Then file a bug.
[13:26:40] <ruepelor> ok, good idea
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[13:40:02] <rcjsuen> ~tell ruepelor about 205136c3
[13:40:03] <KOS-MOS> ruepelor: Bug 205136 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=205136#c3 - Community / Website / unspecified - PC / Linux - RESOLVED / FIXED / major / - Assignee:phoenix.ui-inbox at eclipse dot org - Too hard to download Eclipse for alternative platforms
[13:41:53] <ijuma> mateusz_: Not anytime soon for Java 6, it seems like
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[13:42:43] <ruepelor> rcjsuen don't understand what you want...
[13:43:21] <rcjsuen> ruepelor: i.e. go look at that bug
[13:43:46] <ruepelor> i read it..
[13:45:09] <rcjsuen> ruepelor: oh, whoops, wrong person
[13:45:13] <rcjsuen> ~tell mateusz_ about 205136c3
[13:45:14] <KOS-MOS> mateusz_: Bug 205136 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=205136#c3 - Community / Website / unspecified - PC / Linux - RESOLVED / FIXED / major / - Assignee:phoenix.ui-inbox at eclipse dot org - Too hard to download Eclipse for alternative platforms
[13:45:26] <ruepelor> okay
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[13:49:31] <ruepelor> i found something about my problem: http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.newcomer/msg20571.html how can i answer this post?
[13:53:16] <shwouchk> rcjsuen: not yet
[13:54:47] <rcjsuen> ruepelor: By using a newsreader, like Pan or Mozilla Thunderbird.
[13:54:56] <rcjsuen> I think there are web interfaces also
[13:55:00] <rcjsuen> But I'm not familiar with those means.
[13:55:16] <ruepelor> ok
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[14:07:11] <ruepelor> what is the url of the newsgroup that i have to put in pan?
[14:08:11] <rcjsuen> [news.eclipse.newcomer] javadoc hover popup background/text color
[14:08:16] <rcjsuen> so news.eclipse.newcomer is the group
[14:08:19] <rcjsuen> news.eclipse.org is the server iirc
[14:08:58] <ruepelor> okay
[14:09:03] <ruepelor> thank you
[14:09:07] <ruepelor> i never used a newsgroup
[14:10:34] <rcjsuen> There's always a first for everything.
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[15:48:44] <tokam_one> hi
[15:48:52] <tokam_one> i need zend studio for eclipse
[15:48:54] <mohbana> is it possible to use bazaar with eclipse
[15:48:58] <tokam_one> where and how to get it?
[15:51:29] <rcjsuen> mohbana: There's a bzr plug-in.
[15:51:38] <rcjsuen> tokam_one: I presume from the Zend website somewhere.
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[15:53:38] <tokam_one> very cheep
[15:53:39] <tokam_one> EUR 1.498,-EUR 951,- 
[15:53:40] <tokam_one> :D
[15:53:57] <tokam_one> http://www.zend.com/de/store/software/php-development-tools#Additional-Information
[15:53:59] <rcjsuen> I think there's an open beta, but I could be wrong.
[15:54:11] <rcjsuen> tokam_one: Well, people need to feed their families.
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[16:00:36] <rcjsuen> tokam_one: I'm sure there are other PHP IDEs out there. There are the PDT and PHPEclipse Eclipse plug-ins for starters.
[16:01:42] <tokam_one> ^^
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[17:24:17] <shwouchk> I'm using eclipse to develop an embedded application, and I'm having trouble setting up a debug profile. I can use gdb in a console just fine. I connect to the target using openocd which acts as a gdb server
[17:25:27] <rcjsuen> I connect to the target using openocd which acts as a gdb server...and?
[17:25:45] <rcjsuen> shwouchk: Did you try asking on the newsgroup yet?
[17:25:59] <shwouchk> rcjsuen: not yet :)
[17:26:04] <rcjsuen> shwouchk: Why not?
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[17:26:46] <shwouchk> because I like realtime communication. I will eventually if no one here will help
[17:27:07] <rcjsuen> shwouchk: You've been asking this question for at least 12 hours.
[17:27:15] <shwouchk> rcjsuen: [18:24] <rcjsuen> I connect to the target using openocd which acts as a gdb server...and? <-- that's how I connect with normal gdb
[17:27:34] <shwouchk> rcjsuen: I know
[17:27:35] <rcjsuen> I don't understand your sentence.
[17:27:43] <rcjsuen> That's how you connect, great
[17:27:53] <rcjsuen> And why are you telling us this exactly?
[17:27:57] <rcjsuen> Are you sharing information that it works?
[17:28:06] <rcjsuen> shwouchk: I would ask on the newsgroup if I were you.
[17:29:20] <shwouchk> rcjsuen: but youre not me :) as I said, I will ask eventually
[17:29:31] <shwouchk> rcjsuen: if I connect with plain gdb, yes it works
[17:29:38] <rcjsuen> well, feel free to keep asking
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[17:29:56] <rcjsuen> shwouchk: So what you're really saying is "I connect to the target using openocd which acts as a gdb server and it is not working"?
[17:29:58] <shwouchk> rcjsuen: why am I telling you how I connect? so you can tell me how to do it via eclipse
[17:30:10] <shwouchk> rcjsuen: no
[17:30:13] <rcjsuen> shwouchk: Well, you should specify that.
[17:30:22] <shwouchk> rcjsuen: I believe I did
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[17:30:35] <rcjsuen> Well, all I see is "I'm using eclipse to develop an embedded application, and I'm having trouble setting up a debug profile. I can use gdb in a console just fine. I connect to the target using openocd which acts as a gdb server"
[17:30:56] <shwouchk> this was my question with the relevant part highlighted: I'm using eclipse to develop an embedded application, and I'm having trouble setting up a debug profile. ****I can use gdb in a console just fine.**** I connect to the target using openocd which acts as a gdb server
[17:30:57] <rcjsuen> "trouble" is a little vague I guess is what I'm saying.
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[17:31:51] <shwouchk> rcjsuen: how can I define it precisely if I don't know what's wrong myself?
[17:32:05] <rcjsuen> Well, you said you have trouble setting up a debug profile.
[17:32:12] <shwouchk> rcjsuen: exactly
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[17:32:21] <rcjsuen> Are you talking about a debug launch config?
[17:32:28] <shwouchk> rcjsuen: yes
[17:32:33] <rcjsuen> You might also want to state which plug-ins you are using.
[17:33:51] <rcjsuen> DSDP's DD project might be what you're looking for. Although I'm assuming you're using that anyway.
[17:34:32] <shwouchk> don't think so
[17:34:55] <shwouchk> I don't even know what this is
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[17:36:12] <shwouchk> I use the CDT
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[17:40:50] <rcjsuen> ~g eclipse dsdp dd
[17:40:51] <KOS-MOS> Try googling - http://google.com/search?q=eclipse+dsdp+dd
[17:40:56] <rcjsuen> Well, it's 'Device Debugging'.
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[18:09:14] <mohbana> i am thinking of using http://www.yoxos.com/ do you foresee any isssueS?
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[18:13:06] <mbnoimi> Hi All
[18:14:06] <mbnoimi> I want to ask u if there is and API documentation for CDT, like docs of Java?
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[18:15:54] <mohbana> http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT
[18:16:46] <mbnoimi> I want to use it offline!
[18:17:02] <rcjsuen> mbnoimi: you mean api for the C code you're writing or API for the plug-in itself?
[18:17:18] <mbnoimi> no for C/C++
[18:17:33] <rcjsuen> dunno, dun think that's supported
[18:17:35] <rcjsuen> ~cdt-faq
[18:17:36] <KOS-MOS> Looking for all of the answers related to CDT, or just most of them?  Check out the mighty CDT-FAQ (http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT/User/FAQ).
[18:18:01] <mbnoimi> I looked for it in FAQ
[18:18:06] <mbnoimi> but I got nothing
[18:19:00] <rcjsuen> mbnoimi: Then maybe it isn't supported.
[18:20:02] <mbnoimi> I'm suffering from it, API 4 c/c++ is very important reference like docs 4 java
[18:20:44] <rcjsuen> Oh, I totally agree.
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[18:31:23] <cornell> I've a puzzle...  I'm using RAD 7 on an XP  machine.  Normal behavior is that I start a server in debugging mode, console ends with message about open for e-business.  Using the browser, I go to my entry servlet, which has breakpoints set.  Various messages go to the console, and processing stops at the first breakpoint.  But, periodically, when I go to the servlet, NO messages, not mine, neither system nor internal messages, go to th
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[18:42:33] <scorphus> hello, anyone got MyLyn working with xmlrpcplugin and trac 0.11-trunk?
[18:48:34] <eidolon> haven't tried -any- of those pieces, sorry :)
[18:48:39] <eidolon> though mylyn looks interesting.
[18:48:58] <eidolon> looks like mylyn had a release less than 2 days ago.
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[18:55:03] <rcjsuen> scorphus: you could check bugzilla
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[19:16:10] <scorphus> I'll, thank you
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[19:18:41] <vikas> hi guys
[19:18:47] <rcjsuen> vikas: Hi
[19:19:12] <vikas> My first time here :-) although Ive used eclipse for as long as i can remember :)
[19:21:36] <rcjsuen> vikas: Welcome.
[19:21:54] <vikas> thanks, what are you guys upto?
[19:22:25] <rcjsuen> Hacking code I s'pose
[19:23:07] <vikas> on eclipse?
[19:23:18] <vikas> great, how do i get started if i am itnerested
[19:23:35] <rcjsuen> vikas: Run queries on bugzilla in the component/project you're interested in.
[19:23:49] <rcjsuen> vikas: and search for bugs tagged with the 'helpwanted' and/or the 'bugday' keyword
[19:24:14] <vikas> ok, will do, thanks, i think i can find my way to bugzilla
[19:24:23] <vikas> am interested to help with the scala plug in
[19:24:27] <vikas> so will try to find my way there, thanks
[19:24:40] <rcjsuen> vikas: you could /join #scala if you haven't alrdy
[19:25:00] <rcjsuen> I tried checking out the Scala plug-in from SVN, had a lot of build problems, maybe I'll try again later.
[19:26:02] <vikas> yeah, ive been using it
[19:26:13] <vikas> doesnt do all it could do, so i reverted back to plain old emacs
[19:27:29] <vikas> also, everytime you switch between a java and a scala file in eclipse, an error message window pops up
[19:27:42] <rcjsuen> you should file a bug
[19:27:56] <vikas> yeah, i will
[19:28:05] <vikas> what are u using scala for?
[19:28:33] <rcjsuen> vikas: I'm not ;)
[19:29:02] <vikas> he he, ok
[19:29:58] <rcjsuen> vikas: I heard the plug-in needed some help so I thought I'd help.
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[19:30:40] <vikas> thats nice, i hope to help out as well, i'm beginning to like scala
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[19:38:35] <ijuma> vikas: you are using the old plugin i think
[19:38:48] <vikas> yeah?
[19:38:53] <vikas> let me check the version i have right now
[19:38:56] <ijuma> vikas: the new plugin is where the action is, but it's not yet very stable
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[19:39:59] <vikas> yeah? right now i have "scala dev tools core - version 2.4.4"
[19:40:06] <ijuma> vikas: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.lang.scala/10804/focus=10971
[19:40:09] <vikas> and compiler plug in - 2.7.01 ....
[19:40:12] <ijuma> see that whole thread for more info
[19:40:52] <vikas> looking...thanks ijuma :)
[19:40:58] <vikas> does it have code generation?
[19:41:08] <ijuma> vikas: code generation?
[19:41:15] <ijuma> what do you mean by that?
[19:41:22] <vikas> no, i mean does "cntrl + space " work :D
[19:41:30] <rcjsuen> vikas: that's code completion
[19:41:34] <vikas> yeah sorry
[19:41:35] <rcjsuen> or 'content assist' in Eclipse terms
[19:41:40] <ijuma> vikas: yes
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[19:41:45] <ijuma> vikas: it's all in that thread :)
[19:41:49] <rcjsuen> They should have step-by-step instructions on building the plug-in.
[19:41:53] <rcjsuen> I'll go through this thread
[19:41:56] <rcjsuen> maybe it's hidden in there
[19:41:59] <vikas> thats great, am gonna set it up now then
[19:42:02] <ijuma> rcjsuen: yeah, it is
[19:42:11] <rcjsuen> k
[19:42:13] <ijuma> rcjsuen: at least one person was able to build it from there ;)
[19:42:22] <rcjsuen> gg
[19:42:33] <vikas> :D
[19:48:26] <rcjsuen> These "instructions" aren't very elaborate.
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[19:49:48] <vikas> yeah ha ha
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[19:50:47] <ijuma> rcjsuen: no-one said that they were ;)
[19:50:55] <ijuma> let me see
[19:51:11] <rcjsuen> ijuma: Well, I thought there would be step-by-step instructions.
[19:51:20] <rcjsuen> was what I was looking for, perhaps my expectations were too high
[19:51:41] <ijuma> rcjsuen: i think it's just a matter of running ant after configuring the path of the scala distribution
[19:52:03] <rcjsuen> ijuma: That builds the plug-in though. I need to have it setup properly in my workspace with zero build path problems.
[19:52:29] <rcjsuen> Unless that's supposed to solve that problem too at th Eclipse workspace level.
[19:52:51] <ijuma> rcjsuen: maybe it does, but that's not what you asked for first ;) "They should have step-by-step instructions on building the plug-in."
[19:53:18] <ijuma> rcjsuen: i agree that for you to be able to work on it, it should be configured in eclipse
[19:53:22] <rcjsuen> true, the wrong words rolled out of my fingers
[19:53:39] * ijuma looks
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[20:02:45] <Kilroo> I would just like to say that Eclipse + PDT + DTP + Aptana is looking very promising. I'm pumped.
[20:03:53] <Kilroo> Although I do find it mildly amusing that I'm using a plugin version of what's actually an eclipse-based program for Ajax development...pretty much solely for the use of its FTP support.
[20:04:21] <dominikg> Kilroo, have a look at the remote system explorer: ~tm
[20:04:22] <KOS-MOS> Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
[20:05:38] <Kilroo> Ah, interesting. Somehow my searches missed that.
[20:05:53] <dominikg> anyways... thats the beauty of the eclipse plugin architecture. you can build the ide you need from tons of available plugins. And if you like aptanas ftp support, why not use it.
[20:07:26] <ijuma> rcjsuen: i don't have any compiler errors
[20:07:32] <Kilroo> I may...I really like how Aptana's File view works. But RSE appears to be the option I was trying to find in the first place and failing to find the right search terms. :-)
[20:08:01] <rcjsuen> ijuma: my environment is probably not setup properly
[20:08:03] <ijuma> rcjsuen: not yet anyway, still not finished
[20:09:30] <ijuma> rcjsuen: how did you checkout?
[20:09:44] <dominikg> Kilroo, i don't use aptana, but from what i've read, one of the features od the file view is, that its a true file system view and not limited to projects in a workspace. I don't know if rse works that way too
[20:09:55] <rcjsuen> ijuma: i just used Subclipse
[20:09:59] <rcjsuen> ijuma: though that was a week or two ago
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[20:11:01] <ijuma> rcjsuen: yes, but what project/folder
[20:11:04] <ijuma> maybe that's the issue
[20:11:22] <ijuma> also, it helps if you have the old scala plugin installed to work with the scala files
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[20:11:32] <rcjsuen> ch.epfl.lamp.sdt           ch.epfl.lamp.sdt.debug  scala.plugin ch.epfl.lamp.sdt.compiler  ch.epfl.lamp.sdt.help   scala_library ch.epfl.lamp.sdt.core      ch.epfl.lamp.sdt.ui
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[20:11:59] <ijuma> rcjsuen: did all have compiler errors?
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[20:12:30] <rcjsuen> ijuma: dun think so
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[20:16:04] <ijuma> rcjsuen: i have some errors in the lampion.core module (written in scala)
[20:16:09] <ijuma> the rest seem to be ok
[20:17:15] <ijuma> oh
[20:17:18] <ijuma> and scala.plugin
[20:17:46] <rcjsuen> i have sdt, sdt.compiler, sdt.core, sdt.debug, sdt.help, sdt.ui, scala_library, and scala.plugin
[20:17:52] <rcjsuen> i'll try to replace with trunk and see what happens
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[20:18:11] <rcjsuen> actually doens't look like scala_library is from svn
[20:18:22] <ijuma> i think it is
[20:18:47] <rcjsuen> i don't have an svn folde,r maybe i deleted it
[20:18:50] <rcjsuen> i'll checkout again i s'pose
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[20:23:15] <rcjsuen> ijuma: It seems like those recent changes to MANIFEST.MF might've fixed it. all my ch.epfl.lamp plug-ins are fine
[20:23:40] <rcjsuen> I must say the lack of BREEs is disturbing.
[20:24:07] <ijuma> rcjsuen: hehe
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[20:26:25] <rcjsuen> ijuma: how ohrrid
[20:26:44] <ijuma> rcjsuen: you should file bug reports ;)
[20:27:11] <rcjsuen> ijuma: http://imagebin.ca/img/NBQSFVQF.jpg o.O
[20:30:12] <rcjsuen> How frustrating.
[20:31:06] <ijuma> rcjsuen: hehe, that's exactly the kind of stuff that can be easily fixed by eclipse UI experts ;)
[20:31:25] <rcjsuen> ijuma: Now I know what they meant by pre-alpha ;)
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[20:32:17] <rcjsuen> they probably have a bug for this
[20:32:22] <rcjsuen> I guess I'll take a look see at Trac.
[20:32:27] <ijuma> i don't think so
[20:32:42] <rcjsuen> ijuma: You mean because the work is still "internal"?
[20:32:48] <ijuma> i think the bugs are all for bigger issues than that ;)
[20:33:02] <rcjsuen> haha
[20:33:05] <ijuma> i mean, the workaround for that dialog box is simple right?
[20:33:11] <ijuma> just select a project
[20:33:15] <rcjsuen> ijuma: Well, actually, selecting project fails
[20:33:22] <rcjsuen> i have to select a package
[20:33:39] <rcjsuen> selecting a project works _if_ i have a package defined
[20:33:46] <rcjsuen> ijuma: Do Scala classes have to be in a package or something? o.O
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[20:34:20] <ijuma> ok, still an easy workaround. Btw, not saying that it should not be fixed, just that most people would be happy if the stuff that doesn't seem to have a workaround was fixed ;)
[20:34:36] <Gavrila> is it possible that in eclipse 3.2.1 enum is not recognized?
[20:34:41] <ijuma> rcjsuen: actually scala packages are a bit different than java because they don't have to match the folder structure
[20:34:52] <rcjsuen> ijuma: ah, okay
[20:35:15] <rcjsuen> Gavrila: It is possible if your compiler settings isn't at 5.0 and up.
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[20:35:30] <ijuma> rcjsuen: the command-line compilation stuff works at least
[20:36:38] <Gavrila> rcjsuen, thanks. Another question, I'm using eclipse under X forwarding through ssh: right click in the code works well; right clicking on the navigator pane doesn't work well. Anyone else experiencing the same?
[20:36:58] <rcjsuen> oh my, it's using spaces instead of tabs!
[20:37:18] * ijuma wonders who uses tabs
[20:37:19] <ijuma> ;)
[20:37:34] <rcjsuen> most Eclipse code I've looked at are tabs
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[20:41:10] <ijuma> rcjsuen: the tabs vs spaces is a religious issue, so I'll just not comment ;)
[20:41:46] <rcjsuen> ijuma: true, it's a preference issue
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[20:55:12] <rvsjoen> no matter what I do eclipse always open a blank workspace when I launch if, I tried saying that it should asl every time it starts but nothing..
[20:55:17] <rvsjoen> any ideas ?
[20:55:49] <rcjsuen> rvsjoen: I've heard similar complaints in the past, not sure how those got resolved, if they did.
[20:56:01] <rvsjoen> its extremely annoying
[20:56:16] <rcjsuen> well, you can always switch workspaces
[20:56:23] <rcjsuen> it's not _that_ annoying i s'pose?
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[20:56:33] <rcjsuen> but i guess there's always another 30-60 second wait
[20:56:47] <benny`work> karltk, still problems with your contributions?
[20:57:34] <rcjsuen> rvsjoen: your eclipse/configuration/.settings/org.eclipse.ui.ide.prefs file has SHOW_WORKSPACE_SELECTION_DIALOG=true I guess?
[20:58:38] <rvsjoen> yup
[20:59:02] <rcjsuen> rvsjoen: Where did you download Eclipse? Does it happen in a new installation?
[20:59:20] <rvsjoen> its the callisto release
[20:59:56] <rvsjoen> I installed a few plugins, but i've never had problems with those before though. maybe ill try a new install
[21:00:13] <rcjsuen> rvsjoen: Callisto is rather old, you could try to reproduce it on Europa.
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[21:01:03] <rvsjoen> its not that many weeks since I dl'ed it, maybe Europa is what i have, isn't the "multi" release thingy called callisto any more ?
[21:02:05] <rcjsuen> rvsjoen: That was the "code name" for the one in 2006.
[21:02:08] <rvsjoen> ah
[21:02:22] <rvsjoen> I have 3.3.2 Europa
[21:04:20] <rvsjoen> heh, I removed the QT eclipse plugin and it asked me for workspace.. at least that narrows it down :p
[21:04:49] <rvsjoen> didnt work just disabling it, had to delete it from the plugins folder
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