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[01:13:05] <Sal> hello
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[01:13:35] <Sal> is it possibile to configure the editor so it displays my code with all the functions already expanded ?
[01:14:28] <rcjsuen_> by default the java editor already does that
[01:14:56] <Sal> rcjsuen_, i'm using pdt, it it hass everything closed
[01:15:03] * rcjsuen_ shrugs.
[01:15:08] <Sal> is there something i can set to change that?
[01:15:15] <Sal> hmm
[01:15:31] <Sal> i'm talking about a php class
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[01:30:58] <nitind> I'm guessing he didn't look in the preferences at all.  There's a whole page on PHP Editor Code Folding.
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[01:48:24] <rcjsuen_> nitind: Oh you use PDT?
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[02:10:04] <nitind> rcjsuen_: Nope.
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[02:10:37] <nitind> rcjsuen_: But I did have enough time to go download it and add it to my Europa install.
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[02:43:31] <multi_io> there is no way to achieve something similar to Swing's TreeCellRenderer in SWT/JFace, is there?
[02:43:32] <rcjsuen_> nitind: ah
[02:44:55] <rcjsuen_> multi_io: I might've been able to answer that if I knew what a TreeCellRenderer was.
[02:48:15] <multi_io> rcjsuen_: render arbitrary stuff into the nodes of a Tree control, e.g. whole Composites with any contents in them (i.e. not just an image and a text)
[02:49:01] <rcjsuen_> I think you should look at Nebula.
[02:52:31] <multi_io> hm, I will
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[03:41:37] <aramirez> francis5: are you francis4?
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[03:48:46] <cppexpert> Guys, could you please tell me where I can set paths to my copy of JDK instead of default one which comes with Eclipse ? I can't find it UI :(
[03:49:34] <cppexpert> I'm using MyEclipse 6.0.1 under Windows XP.
[03:50:25] <rcjsuen_> cppexpert: You want to use another JDK to start Eclipse?
[03:52:01] <cppexpert> rcjsuen_: Not really, I'm fine with how it works, but I want Eclipse to use another JDK for Intellisense because I can't use classes from JavaSE 1.6 because Eclipse has 1.4 installed.
[03:52:25] <rcjsuen_> cppexpert: Window > Preferences?
[03:52:29] <rcjsuen_> I'll leave the rest to you as an exercise.
[03:53:01] <cppexpert> rcjsuen_: I see. Thanks !
[03:54:14] <francis5> aramirez: yes
[03:55:00] <aramirez> francis5:  Paul replied in the newsgroup with regards to my problem
[03:55:21] <aramirez> francis5:  What I want isn't possible yet in 3.3
[03:55:22] <francis5> aramirez: yes, i saw that, but you had some additional trouble, I think I replied as well
[03:55:39] <aramirez> francis5:  Yep, I saw your replay
[03:55:44] <francis5> aramirez: yes, I know
[03:55:52] <aramirez> francis5:  Have you seen Paul's reply lately?
[03:55:57] <francis5> aramirez: let me check
[03:56:19] <aramirez> francis5:  http://www.eclipse.org/newsportal/article.php?id=72980&group=eclipse.platform#72980
[03:57:02] <francis5> aramirez: just checked it, you have an RCP app, right?
[03:57:38] <aramirez> i think i have
[03:57:58] <aramirez> francis5: it's bundled with j2ee right?
[03:58:12] <aramirez> francis5: my eclipse is eclipse j2ee so i think i have rcp
[03:58:39] <francis5> aramirez:  i think you misunderstand, RCP is not a component of eclipse, it's a way of using eclipse to make your own application
[03:58:48] <aramirez> francis5: sorry for that
[03:59:09] <francis5> aramirez: for example, you can use only the SWT/JFace parts of eclipse without using the rest; that's sort of an RCP application
[03:59:10] <aramirez> francis5: i don't know about rcp yet
[03:59:32] <aramirez> francis5: ah ok
[03:59:34] <francis5> aramirez: are you developing an application that will run by itself, or are you developing a plugin that will plugin to an existing IDE
[03:59:54] <aramirez> francis5: plugin that will plugin to an existing ide
[04:00:01] <francis5> aramirez: RCP provides lots of additional goodies on top of the SWT/JFace
[04:00:19] <francis5> aramirez: oh, for plugin, then I think you might be out of luck.
[04:00:38] <aramirez> francis5: :D
[04:01:00] <francis5> aramirez: you will need to be on 3.4, paul's suggestion applied only to RCP apps, where essentially you would create your own save action
[04:01:12] <francis5> aramirez: but for a plugin you have to use the IDE's save action
[04:02:12] <aramirez> francis5: so for 3.3, what i want isn't doable.
[04:02:33] <aramirez> francis5: thanks btw for guiding me out to newsgroup
[04:02:57] <francis5> aramirez: pretty much, that's the case, sorry about that, but the 3.4 stuff is pretty stable, I have been using it for a couple of months now
[04:03:06] <konigsberg> Hello all
[04:03:14] <francis5> aramirez: no problem, they are very helpful there, and it helps others to see the responses
[04:03:20] <francis5> hi konigsberg
[04:03:21] <ijuma> rcjsuen_: I think you should be able to reproduce yes. Yeah, it would be interesting to see why that code gets miscompiled
[04:03:26] <konigsberg> I have a plug-in that extends Plugin (not AbstractUIPlugin)
[04:03:39] <rcjsuen_> ijuma: lol, went away for the last few hours?
[04:03:40] <konigsberg> and I want to associate preference with it.
[04:03:52] <konigsberg> I have a UI counterpart to the plug-in. Do I want to store the preferences there?
[04:04:07] <francis5> konigsberg: give me a minute
[04:04:14] <konigsberg> OK francis5
[04:04:41] <rcjsuen_> konigsberg: I wouldn't.
[04:05:35] <ijuma> rcjsuen_: yeap
[04:06:39] <francis5> konigsberg: you should be able to just create a ScopedPreferenceStore, that's all the AbstractUIPlugin does, so I think it should be OK, I don't think the plugin itself has any further involvement other than creating it
[04:06:40] <konigsberg> rcjsuen, well, it seems that AbstractUIPlugin has a getPreferenceStore method.
[04:06:51] <konigsberg> Oh I see francis5
[04:06:56] <francis5> konigsberg: look at the contents of that method and just do that
[04:07:05] <konigsberg> francis5, I'll then use the UI plug-in's preference page.
[04:07:08] <konigsberg> OK thanks
[04:07:21] <francis5> konigsberg: use your own plugin ID for the prference store
[04:07:22] <rcjsuen_> konigsberg: you could use an InstanceScope and store
[04:07:48] <rcjsuen_> well, the SPS class from ui
[04:08:12] <rcjsuen_> org.eclipse.ui.preferences.ScopedPreferenceStore
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[04:09:01] <konigsberg> k
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[04:09:14] <rcjsuen_> ijuma: From the original bug report the guy seems to hint at it crashing on u3 too, that's odd.
[04:10:06] <ijuma> rcjsuen_: i didn't see that
[04:10:09] <ijuma> in the sun bug?
[04:10:18] <rcjsuen_> no, in eclipse https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=214092
[04:10:29] <rcjsuen_> "What I've discovered are quite regular JVM crashes with different JVMs from Sun (1.6.0_u3, 1.7.0-icedtea and 1.6.0.10)."
[04:10:30] <rcjsuen_> admittedly
[04:10:33] <rcjsuen_> i don't know where he got .10 from
[04:12:35] <ijuma> that is the "consumer release" one
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[04:12:47] <rcjsuen_> o
[04:13:24] <ijuma> rcjsuen_: i think he made a mistake regarding update 3
[04:13:52] <rcjsuen_> i s'pose
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[04:50:58] <jacob> how can i make a project work with two source files and a header file?
[04:51:09] <jacob> for C++
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[04:57:47] <warfangle> Hello there, I'm trying to figure out which eclipse distro will work best, since putting together extensions using the .deb from the ubuntu repository was kind of, well, broken. Javascript and PHP development.. hopefully with support for WSDL-driven code completion?
[04:58:31] <nitind> warfangle: Start with the Europa "Eclipse IDE for Java EE" and then add PDT through their Update Site.
[05:00:23] <warfangle> Great, thanks! If things don'
[05:00:32] <warfangle> t go as smoothly as expecting, I'm gonna idle for a bit
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[05:05:03] <jacob> i have two source files in eclipse, learning and testing how to work on a project with two source files including a header file that contains a prototype for a function that exists in one of the two source files. How can i make this project work under eclipse?
[05:05:48] <warfangle> nitind: it easy to integrate phpunit and jsunit into the projects? I've worked with unit testing frameworks for .net and jsunit as well, but never under eclipse
[05:06:20] <jacob> anybody?
[05:06:28] <jacob> :(
[05:06:41] <jacob> please?
[05:07:51] <warfangle> jacob: sorry guy, I'm solely front-end ecmascript / .net guy trying to go back to my roots and see how php5 performs
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[05:31:10] <nitind> warfangle: No idea, I've never used either.
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[06:58:25] <kmeyer> if I'm editing a file with unix line endings on windows and make some changes and save it, will eclipse keep the unix line endings or convert to windows cr lf?
[06:59:12] <nitind> It really depends on which editor you're using in it, but they are supposed to be kept as they are.
[06:59:27] <kmeyer> ok, great.
[06:59:44] <kmeyer> (I'm on *nix but I'm collaborating with windows users)
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[07:00:17] <nitind> In a strange cosmic coincidence, I'm fixing that in the WTP editors right now.
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[07:19:14] <aramirez> hi to all, java nature is   org.eclipse.jdt.core.javanature right? What's c++ nature?
[07:19:18] <aramirez> hi to all, java nature is   org.eclipse.jdt.core.javanature right? What's c/c++ nature?
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[07:21:32] <onnadi3> You should see it in C/C++ .project files in the nature tag. I think it is org.eclipse.cdt.core.ccnature
[07:24:17] <onnadi3> aramirez: do you see it there?
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[07:25:26] <aramirez> onnadi3:  i'm not a c/c++ dev and i don't have c/c++ plugin here.
[07:25:42] <aramirez> onnadi3:  I asked because I want to help somebody in the newsgroup.
[07:25:54] <onnadi3> oh, OK
[07:26:34] <aramirez> onnadi3:  Thank you anyway. I've already given him/her instructions on how to find out the c/c++ nature. It's exactly the same step you said to me.
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[07:27:33] <stompeers> Hi folks! I know this has got to be easy, but I've been searching for an hour: What plugin can I use to enable FTP support?
[07:28:15] <nitind> Define "FTP support".  The Target Management part of the DSDP project can be used to map and FTP location into a folder in the workspace.
[07:29:17] <stompeers> nitind: I have been using Dreamweaver and would like to port over to Eclipse, so ideally I would like a Project to FTP account relationship.
[07:30:01] <stompeers> When I try to install the Target Management plugin, it gives me an error:  Remote System Explorer C/C++ Remote Debug Launcher (2.0.1.v20070926-4-18s733G3K5H) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.cdt.core
[07:30:13] <stompeers> Well, it won't let me install because of that.
[07:30:41] <nitind> Aren't you able to deselect the C++ part of it?
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[07:34:14] <stompeers> nitind: It looks like it, thanks!
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[07:39:54] <cppexpert> Hey guys. I'm not sure if it's MyEclipse question and could be answered here but I'll try. I have web-project and I'm trying to use JavaMail. It throws exception because it can't find javax.activation.DataSource. It's true that I don't have activation.jar in my WEB-INF\lib, but I have folder called 'J2EE 1.4 Libraries' in workspace of Eclipse and I thought it should find it. What would you recommedn me to do ? Thank you.
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[07:41:29] <nitind> MyEclipse uses their own server launching mechanism, you'll have to ask them.
[07:45:14] <cppexpert> nitind: Do you know name of Eclipse channel ? #eclipse on freenode is empty.
[07:46:16] <stompeers> Okay, I've installed the Target Management Modules (whatever parts I could without installing CDT), now where would I find FTP settings?
[07:48:25] <cppexpert> nitind: Ok, here is update. Copying activation.jar to my WEB-INF\lib\ gives the same exception :( Any suggestions?
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[07:52:05] <stompeers> Man, this is killing me. There's got to be a way to incorporate simple FTP here...
[07:55:36] <nitind> stompeers: Did you check the web site? Read http://eclipsewebmaster.blogspot.com/2007/01/remote-editing-using-eclipse.html and http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/tutorial/index.php
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[08:25:14] <bladezor_> mmm..my auto completion isn't working correctly in Eclipse
[08:25:22] <bladezor_> It doesn't like nested namespaces
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[08:39:07] <onnadi3> Hi all. How can I retrieve an instance of ISelectionService so that my view can display data based on the currently selected editor?
[08:39:13] <onnadi3> There are lots of tutorial showing how to register for other views' selections, but none I can find on registering for editors' selections
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[08:59:47] <nitind> onnadi3: org.eclipse.ui.IWorkbenchWindow#getSelectionService()
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[09:02:49] <onnadi3> nitind: Thanks a lot. By the way, how did you figure it out? Looks like it'll work
[09:03:03] <onnadi3> nitind: Have you done this kind of thing before?
[09:03:17] <nitind> onnadi3: Yes.
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[10:35:44] <flowOver> how do i make eclipse not crash my gutsy gibbon?
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[10:36:42] <onnadi3> ha! Good luck with that. Try increasing the heap allocation
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[10:41:53] <tusharvjoshi> From the Eclipse Discovery Site, I installed TPTP Monitoring plugin, as soon as I open the Profiling Dialog box my Eclipse simply crashes without any error message.  I am on Windows XP, Eclipse Europa WTP
[10:43:14] <flowOver> i've got pdt all in one from the site.  not the ubuntu's repos
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[10:44:22] <tusharvjoshi> Can someone suggest how to get the log message and where to ask for help
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[11:15:25] <acode_> Having created an ASTParser in my IncrementalProjectBuilder, how do I get the AST for the current source code in the project? I cant find somethin appropreate for setSource
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[11:24:05] <philk__> hi all! I have more than one listview in a view and want each to be a selection provider. Is this handled automatically on focus change, or do I have to do that manually?
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[11:55:53] <nitind> philk__: I'm guessing you man a ListViewer, and yes, manually.
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[11:56:45] <philk__> nitind: well, yes a listviewer or whatever... so I have to listen to focus changes inside the view myself?
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[12:03:24] <nitind> philk__: Yes, or maybe ask the display what has focus, but why multiple list viewers?  Would a table viewer do better?
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[12:05:29] <philk__> nitind: look at this screen: http://fishtravel.net/files/tks/Image23.png There should be different selections for each tableviewer on the left and right side.
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[12:08:50] <philk__> nitind: If the user clicks on the right tableviewer the selection should contain different objects than when he selects something in left table
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[12:17:58] <goki_work> Does anyone know what would cause Eclipse to fail to autocomplete a class name from the same project?
[12:18:18] <goki_work> If I put the import in myself, it is fine, compiles and runs, but if I try to complete it doesn't know about some classes
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[12:18:32] <goki_work> also some refactorings break, imports are not changed to match the new location of the files
[12:18:47] <goki_work> Do I reinstall eclipse and use the same workspace, or rebuild the workspace or what?
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[13:28:22] <philk__> anybody yet integrated mylyn into his application to report erros from within an RCP?
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[13:39:52] <fortytwo> hi... does anyone have some experience with the eclipse rich ajax platform?
[13:44:33] <mefisto> why not to use Aptana instead
[13:44:34] <mefisto> ?
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[13:49:37] <fortytwo> mefisto: do you mean their application server or the ide or what?
[13:52:05] <mefisto> im mean actually jaxer
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[13:54:59] <fortytwo> oh i see, its open source... sorry i was under the impression earlier that it was a proprietory product
[13:55:41] <rcjsuen> philk__: I don't think Mylyn really...reports errors. Unless you meant interacting with bugzilla.
[13:56:02] <rcjsuen> goki_work: You'll have to make a smaller reproducible test case.
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[14:04:33] <fortytwo> mefisto: basically i'm trying to write a small web-based problem ticket application... i just don't want to write any html :)
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[14:20:54] <philk__> rcjsuen: yeah I am talking about using the mylyn connector to interact with trac or bugzilla.
[14:21:37] <philk__> why oes the handlers extension point does not show which command id it is for? It always only says "(handler)" and only when i click on it i can see what command it handles.
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[14:22:51] <philk__> the menu extensions "visibleWhen" checkEnabled(true) does not have any effect. Even when the handler is not enabled, the menu entry is still visible.
[14:23:57] <rcjsuen> philk__: you should talk to paulweb515
[14:24:27] <paulweb515> philk__: checkEnabled won't work until 3.4M5
[14:24:47] <rcjsuen> what an unfortunate turn of events
[14:25:14] <philk__> paulweb515: ah ok, always wondered, because it would be very handy not to declare the conditions of the handler again in the menu contribution.
[14:25:33] <philk__> paulweb515: I will use 3.4M5 right away then :)
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[14:31:50] <ilon_> how do i make eclipse recognize @WebParam annotations?
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[15:00:21] <philk_> paulweb515: any idea if PDE people are in here?
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[15:01:40] <paulweb515> philk_: PDE person, you mean :-)  the PDE tools guy hangs out here (zx) but I believe is on vacation today and the PDE build guy shows up after lunch EST (discodan)
[15:03:31] <philk_> paulweb515: PDE person of course :) ok I will keep an eye on them cause I have specific question that bugzilla could not answer
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[15:03:42] <philk_> why does the handlers extension point does not show which command id it is for? It always only says "(handler)" and only when i click on it i can see what command it handles.
[15:04:42] <paulweb515> philk_: you used to be able to specify a "name" attribute but we don't any more ... PDE just tries to guess, but in some cases (like handlers) it doesn't work out)
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[15:06:08] <philk_> paulweb515: I think maybe in the extension schema is just the "label" property missing and could be set to point to "id" and it would show up in the tree right before "(handler)". ie: "some.command (handler)"
[15:07:32] <paulweb515> philk_: this used to be part of the appinfo element of our .exsd files: <meta.element labelAttribute="label"/>
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[15:07:53] <paulweb515> philk_: it told the PDEEditor which attribute to use like you mentioned
[15:08:04] <paulweb515> philk_: but they've removed support for it and decided to guess instead
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[15:09:43] <philk_> paulweb515: when was that removed? In 3.3 i can still define a label and icon attribute. Both very helpful features. They should only "guess" if it is not provided, not remove it altogether... hmmm
[15:10:59] <paulweb515> philk_: well, the PDEEditor still honours them if they're found ... but you can't add them any more using the Schema Editor
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[15:13:32] <philk_> paulweb515: what a pity :) Well now I have like 34 command handlers... how am I supossed to find the one I wanna modify? Click each and everyone of them?
[15:13:50] <dinochopins> what is the most recommended bundled eclipse distro for developing a gui app ?
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[15:16:46] <xmux> dinochopins: Probably the plug-in developers one if you are writing an RCP application
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[15:19:30] <paulweb515> philk_: that's what I do :-)  I find it easier to start at the bottom and expand them one at a time :-)
[15:19:47] <paulweb515> philk_: if you can add that attribute back, I'd consider a patch for handlers.exsd (in org.eclipse.ui)
[15:21:47] <philk_> paulweb515: I wonder how the Eclipse Workbench team finds the right handlers... maybe I should just file a bug for that?
[15:22:46] <paulweb515> philk_: I just hunt through the tree, or I switch to the plugin.xml tab and just use CTRL+J
[15:23:50] <philk_> paulweb515: well I understand there are all kind of workarounds, but the situation could be much easier (or was easier before?).
[15:24:27] <paulweb515> philk_: handlers has always been this way ... but a bug and a simple patch might get it fixed
[15:26:01] <philk_> paulweb515: will ask my buddy to create the patch, since I am not the cvs expert :)
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[15:27:25] <gromgull> If I edit config.ini I must run the "eclipse.exe -clean" for my rcp app to reload the config, true or false?
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[15:27:40] <gromgull> if so - is there a way to reload config, or rescan for bundles without destroying the workspace data?
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[16:01:55] <paulweb515> gromgull: -clean doesn't delete workspace stuff (in theory) just wipes out most of the eclipse/configuration data
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[16:03:34] <gromgull> hmm.. can I make it not delete things, but just reread the config.ini?
[16:03:46] <gromgull> or make it just rescan for plugins?
[16:04:04] <mohbana> hey guys why does eclipse look so bad on linux
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[16:04:29] <gromgull> i guess this means we have been writing more things to the config area than we should - that's what happens when your app is written by 20 drunk monkeys :(
[16:04:57] <mohbana> it looks so much better on windows, i could live with but any reason why?
[16:05:29] <gromgull> it has nice blue gradients on windows you mean? On linux it's a gtk app - styled by gtk
[16:05:42] <gromgull> if you change the gtk theme, eclipse will also change
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[16:08:19] <Celos> hi, anyone using Rodin, the event-b formal method based on eclipse ? (i know it's not the good chan but i had to try :p)
[16:08:38] <mohbana> i am going to take a screenshot of it under vista and fedora to show whati  mean
[16:09:04] <paulweb515> mohbana: I use eclipse on linux, it looks fine to me
[16:09:36] <gromgull> there used to be a motif version, maybe that's what he has...
[16:09:41] <gromgull> i dont know if it still exists?
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[16:12:44] <paulweb515> gromgull: it might exist, but we probably don't build it by default (I thought we might be moving away from it)
[16:13:26] <paulweb515> :-) except for AIX, of course
[16:13:32] <paulweb515> http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/development/eclipse_project_plan_3_4.html#TargetOperatingEnvironments
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[16:14:12] <paulweb515> ha, apparently we do build a linux-motif (for testing only :-)
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[16:14:28] <paulweb515> ha, apparently we do build a linux-motif (for testing only :-)
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[16:31:14] <queuetue> Hi.  I'm trying eclipse for the first time for c/c++ development, and I think I've stuffed myself up.  I'm building a new project based on an old one, dragging files from the OS into the project explorer.  Now, files in a subdirectory of the project are reporting "no such file or directory" when including (existing) header files in other subdirectories.  Is there something obvious I've broken that you can help me fix?
[16:31:23] <safak_> is there an update site for ATF ?
[16:31:37] <goki_work> Well, if I reimport the project into a new workspace, it solves the problem. So there is some workspace setting that can produce the behaviour of missing classes when looking for autocomplete, and producing incorrect refactorings
[16:31:46] <goki_work> Unfortunately I don't expect I can reproduce it
[16:32:29] <goki_work> queuetue: not sure, but try refreshing the project if you have moved files outside eclipse - it may well not notice until you refresh
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[16:38:51] <queuetue> goki_work, Some combination of refresh and ../ has made it include properly.  Thanks.
[16:39:56] <queuetue> Now, I've made a new directory, src to clean up the project a bit.  I've moved everything there, but now the build reports "make: No rule to make target main.o" - how do I inform it about the change in directories?
[16:40:25] <safak_> anyone knows ATF ?
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[16:42:41] <goki_work> queuetue: That is just a make file problem, are you auto generating the make file?
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[16:43:29] <queuetue> goki_work, Eclipse is doing it for me, I assume.  I haven't done anything intentional to construct a makefile.
[16:43:39] <goki_work> in that case, not sure :)
[16:43:44] <goki_work> I always end up doing my own make files
[16:43:44] <DaveyB> When I run Eclipse on a project in Windows I get "Launch Failed No Binaries", I have already selected the PE Windows Parsers as stipulated on google.  Any other ideas?
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[16:44:08] <goki_work> I would guess you need to specify something in the include files thingy
[16:45:05] <goki_work> Right click project, properties, C/C++ Include Paths and Symbols
[16:45:09] <goki_work> then add folder
[16:45:21] <goki_work> I don't know whether that will do it, might be worth a try
[16:45:22] <muennich> Is there any way to manually insert some things *around* a highlighted text, like tags?  i have to put a thousands htmlentities( ... ) in my project and a regular expression search is not really an option...
[16:45:37] <queuetue> sources.mk has the src directory in it...
[16:46:45] <paulweb515> muennich: yes, it's in the Source>Surround With submenu
[16:47:31] <DaveyB> goki_work:  What should I add?
[16:48:13] <jink> A brain.
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[16:49:32] <muennich> paulweb515: sorry, but that option is not there. There's only Toggle comment and Add Block Comment, but not "Surround with"..   any way  i can enable that somewhere? btw, I am using PDT
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[16:50:36] <muennich> paulweb515: ah, found it.. have to create templates first... thousand thanks!
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[16:51:50] <paulweb515> muennich: OK, it would depend on your editor supporting it (In Java it's there by default, but they provide a number of pre-canned templates)
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[16:52:55] <muennich> i guess i will shortly switch to a JAVA view so that it's easier for me. anyhow, your help is highly appreciated!
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[16:56:26] <queuetue> goki_work, Blowing away the build configs and recreating them fixed it.
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[16:59:56] <queuetue> Everything seems ok now except one warning about "Error launching external scanner info generator (avr-gcc -E -P -v -dD specs.c)" - does anyone know what this issue is?
[17:01:36] <ChrisRecoskie> queuetue:  is avr-gcc in your path?  usually that means it can't find the executable
[17:01:39] <philk__> to test my apps with features instead of plugins I would have to setup the workspace inside the plugins folder and the features in the feature folder?
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[17:04:24] <queuetue> ChrisRecoskie, yes.
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[17:06:08] <ChrisRecoskie> queuetue:  try checking the log file and see if there's any errors
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[17:14:49] <queuetue> I'm running Eclipse "classic" - when I try to install "Java Development", I get the error "JST Common Core (2.0.0.v200706041905-1007w311817231426) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.wst.common.project.facet.core (1.1.1)", or compatible." - where do I get that from?
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[17:25:07] <safak_> what is the JST feature and where can I get it ?
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[17:30:20] <markhamc> I just installed Ganymede M5 and the hot code replace is no longer working. I'm not getting a dialog that says it failed or anything. Even simple things that I know should work aren't. Has anyone had similar issues?
[17:30:45] <philk__> whats the prefererred way to setup pde-selfhosting?
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[17:32:39] <Kaon1> How can I have my projects(here GMF) to appear in a new category instead of the EXAMPLES, when I select NEW... (just like Eclipse's GENERAL,JAVA , C++ categories)
[17:33:15] <Kaon1> ?
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[17:45:07] <rcjsuen> queuetue: You could try clicking the 'Select Required' button.
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[17:47:59] <queuetue> rcjsuen, Thanks.  I had assumed (wrongly) that it was automatically doing that.
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[18:01:14] <yakman_> is there a way to make the JDT debugger stop when it gets to a place, like "when you get to this instruction, suspend that thread"
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[18:17:22] <robinr> yakman_: uh, yeah. breakbpoints
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[18:17:50] <yakman_> ah alright, found it
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[18:30:54] <fnadsfasd> if there is any java game developer pls pm me
[18:31:33] <Trejox> i'm having a little problem... well i don't know how little it really is...
[18:32:32] <Trejox> i just installed eclipse on a fedora (linux) system.. but when i try to run or debug the code... i just get an error saying that the selection could not be launched... any help on what i should do?
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[18:43:14] <nitind> Trejox: From where are you trying to launch?  In an editor or from a view like the Package Explorer?
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[18:44:01] <Trejox> in the editor...middle top buttons ( debug, run, run ext. )
[18:44:30] <Trejox> i'm figuring out, it seemed as if i hadn't configured any external tools to get the job done, and that's why it wasn't working...
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[18:54:47] <subanark> I'm trying to import a project from an ant file, but I get an error that there is no javac task. Is there anything I can do about this?
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[18:56:10] <subanark> The ant file appears to use a compiler built from another project
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[19:11:24] <Eckos> is there a way to uninstall a package through the ide?
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[19:14:56] <hanzou> I have this file blah.macros. How can I get Eclipse to use C++ syntax highlighting?
[19:15:01] <hanzou> Eclipse CDT
[19:15:37] <ChrisRecoskie_> hanzou:  you will have to add .macros to the content types in Eclipse as a C++ file
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[19:15:52] <hanzou> What menu?
[19:16:17] <ChrisRecoskie> I think it's Window->Preferences->General
[19:16:55] <ChrisRecoskie> Yep... Window->Preferences->General->Content Types
[19:17:20] <hanzou> Cool that worked. Thanks a bunch.
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[19:18:28] <rcjsuen> fnadsfasd: Think you'd have better luck searching around SourceForge or something.
[19:19:01] <rcjsuen> Eckos: Not really, you can disable, not uninstall.
[19:19:24] <Eckos> oh i got it to uninstall :)
[19:19:46] <rcjsuen> o rly
[19:19:51] <Eckos> or atleast t said uninstall
[19:19:54] <Eckos> it*
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[19:25:09] <havocologe> is it possible to change the auto indentation behavior of eclipse for special structures like switch() or foreach() ? i would like to change it cause the standard behavior is not compliant with the coding-styles of my job
[19:25:24] <rcjsuen> havocologe: You could try changing the formatter's settings.
[19:25:34] <rcjsuen> Assuming said plug-in has a formatter.
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[19:26:42] <philk__> is there any tutorial out there about designing a product using features instead of plugins? I cannot get my feature based product to run (its missing essential base bundles)
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[19:28:22] <havocologe> rcjsuen: talking about pdt ...
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[19:29:57] <havocologe> grml... not possible in pdt.. only tabs and spaces can be changed :(
[19:30:19] <stompeers_> Is there a simple way to enable word-wrapping?
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[19:31:34] <rcjsuen> ~tell stompeers about ww
[19:31:34] <KOS-MOS> stompeers: Looking for word wrap support in Eclipse text editors? This is not supported out of the box, please see bug 35779 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=35779 - Meanwhile, take a look at fellow IRC user AhtiK's plug-in - http://ahtik.com/blog/2006/06/18/first-alpha-of-eclipse-word-wrap-released/ - Or try out Eclipse Colorer - http://colorer.sourceforge.net/eclipsecolorer/
[19:32:33] <YahooLaptop> im on ubuntu using eclipse with JDT, when i do "Integer lala = 5;" - it says "Type mismatch: cannot convert from int to Integer" - even though javac doesnt have a problem with it
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[19:34:07] <stompeers_> rcjsuen: Is either a better solution?
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[19:35:03] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[19:35:15] <rcjsuen> YahooLaptop: your compiler isn't set to 5.0 sounds like
[19:35:20] <rcjsuen> ~tell YahooLaptop about gfaq
[19:35:21] <KOS-MOS> YahooLaptop: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs
[19:38:28] <YahooLaptop> java.version=1.6.0_03
[19:38:40] <rcjsuen> your java.version has nothing to do wiht this
[19:38:51] <rcjsuen> YahooLaptop:
[19:38:52] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> YahooLaptop: your compiler isn't set to 5.0 sounds like
[19:38:52] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> ~tell YahooLaptop about gfaq
[19:38:52] <rcjsuen> <KOS-MOS> YahooLaptop: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs
[19:38:52] <rcjsuen> <YahooLaptop> java.version=1.6.0_03
[19:38:55] <rcjsuen> whoops
[19:38:56] <rcjsuen> YahooLaptop: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_change_the_compiler_compliance_level_for_my_workspace.3F
[19:40:06] <YahooLaptop> aha :)
[19:40:08] <YahooLaptop> thanks :)
[19:40:57] * YahooLaptop goes back to attacking c++ :p
[19:42:43] <YahooLaptop> atleast i can do my java work now :p
[19:46:27] <stompeers_> If one is using EclipseColorer, how would one add additional file types to have the word wrap applied to? For example, it is working on php files, but I need it to work on files with a .module and .install extension as well, which are custom extensions.
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[19:51:48] <philk__> how do I find out which bundle exports a certain package?
[19:52:20] <paulweb515> philk__: the OSGi PackageAdmin service
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[19:56:08] <philk__> paulweb515: I mean inside the IDE... my product cannot be launched cause I missed one or more bundles to include in my feature
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[19:57:21] <paulweb515> philk__: you might have to go back to your launch config and delete/recreate or click on required plugins button
[19:58:18] <philk__> paulweb515: hmmm my product is based on features and I am running self-hosted...
[19:59:18] <paulweb515> philk__: but if you ran it once and then updated your feature to include other plugins, it might not have updated the launch configs
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[20:01:10] <philk__> paulweb515: when I select "workspace features" I am not able to select any required plugins. And the missing packages are in bundles that I have included into my feature. I still find that whole feature approach very error prone
[20:02:25] <paulweb515> philk__: It has worked for me in the past ... but I've never converted an existing product from one to the other (plugin to feature)
[20:03:21] <markhamc> is anyone using the latest Ganymede M5?
[20:04:45] <philk__> markhamc: I am
[20:05:04] <rcjsuen> ~tell markhamc about ask
[20:05:05] <KOS-MOS> markhamc: If you have a question, just ask, don't ask if you can ask a question.
[20:05:51] <philk__> paulweb515: I just create a new product that consist of one feature. That feature contains all the req. plugins (i think). There are no compile errors. So its purely a runtime issue.
[20:06:33] <paulweb515> philk__: I would try deleting the launch config and then running again from the product editor launch link
[20:06:41] <philk__> ok i try that
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[20:09:05] <markhamc> hot code replace when debugging is not working for me in Ganymede M5 (I just switched from 3.3.1), is anyone else having success or problems with this?
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[20:11:23] <rcjsuen> markhamc: Does it work on a new workspace?
[20:11:47] <nitind> markhamc: Are you building automatically and using a supported JRE?
[20:12:18] <markhamc> nitind: it was previously working under 3.3, i'm not sure if requirements changed
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[20:17:26] <markhamc> rcjsuen: Yes, it does work in a new workspace, is there something I can clear out of my old one?
[20:17:43] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[20:17:48] <Kaon1> How can I add my Category(category in creation wizard) to File->New menu or Rightclick->New menu ?
[20:17:49] <rcjsuen> you could try Project / Clean I s'pose
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[20:19:10] <rcjsuen> Kaon1: I believe you modify the perspective for that.
[20:19:14] <rcjsuen> or contribute perspective extensions
[20:19:19] <stompeers_> I have the Target Management plugin installed, and would like to connect a project with a particular folder in an FTP account, so I can automatically upload to that folder when I've updated my local version. Does anyone have any tips on how to do that?
[20:19:29] <stompeers_> I have the Target Management plugin installed, and would like to connect a project with a particular folder in an FTP account, so I can automatically upload to that folder when I've updated my local version. Does anyone have any tips on how to do that?
[20:19:42] <stompeers_> (sorry about the double post there. ;) )
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[20:21:24] <Kaon1> rcjsuen, I should work with some extenstions ,because I want that feature to be in the running application, I guess the perspective u say is only useful for current plug-in development environment
[20:22:38] <rcjsuen> Well, the running app would have perspectives
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[20:24:44] <Kaon1> yes, I want it to be set automatically, not that everyuser has to do it on their own
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[20:26:08] <rcjsuen> yes, so if you contributed to the perspective...
[20:26:50] <Kaon1> it has to be somewhere in the org.eclipse.ui.command or ui.menu extension
[20:26:53] <rcjsuen> of course, you'd probably hit ~48060 which is rather annoying
[20:26:54] <KOS-MOS> Bug 48060 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=48060 - Platform / UI / 2.1.2 - PC / Windows XP - ASSIGNED / normal / - Assignee:kim_horne at ca dot ibm.com - [Wizards] [DynamicUI] Allow newly dropped plugins to contribute New Wizard shortcuts without requiring resetting the perspective
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[20:27:46] <rcjsuen> it's cleverly called org.eclipse.ui.perspectiveExtensions
[20:27:59] <Kaon1> aha
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[20:29:44] <Kaon1> so there is a bug with it?
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[20:30:55] <rcjsuen> Kaon1: See above.
[20:31:31] <Kaon1> just read the bug info
[20:31:48] <Kaon1> sounds harder than I expected :)
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[20:32:15] <rcjsuen> Actually, it's 5 lines of XML.
[20:33:31] <rcjsuen> Working around it might be a problem, yes, but that depends on your product I suppose.
[20:33:46] <Kaon1> aha
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[20:34:38] <Kaon1> haven't worked on this part before so have to read what each part is doing (target id, view id,...)
[20:36:50] <Kaon1> rcjsuen , may I copy the code for it in pm to u?
[20:37:11] <rcjsuen> Kaon1: Yes, but I'd prefer not, just ~pastebin it
[20:37:11] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[20:37:23] <Kaon1> ok thanks
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[20:40:03] <Kaon1> in these lines http://pastebin.com/m7009b669  , where should I change ? The category I've made in the creation wizard is called SaveCCM and the items are under that
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[20:42:40] <Kaon1> the perspective is obviously the persective id, where can I set my it to refer to my category
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[20:43:33] <rcjsuen> you can't add a category
[20:43:38] <rcjsuen> you need to add wizard IDs directly afaik
[20:44:32] <Kaon1> I see
[20:44:34] <paulweb515> Kaon1: in the latest I build of 3.4, it will actually let you pick from a list (that helps narrow down valid values :-)
[20:45:32] <Kaon1> great!
[20:46:02] <subanark> Is there anyway to change which compiler I'm using?
[20:47:07] <rcjsuen> subanark: Language?
[20:47:16] <subanark> erm... java
[20:47:17] <Kaon1> so rcjsuen, how I do what u said, adding wizards ids there, and also having a seperator line?
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[20:47:24] <rcjsuen> I dunno how to add separator lines
[20:47:27] <rcjsuen> Never bothered with that one.
[20:48:09] <subanark> I want to use the jsr308 compiler
[20:48:21] <Kaon1> aw,newizardshortcut points to the id
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[20:49:56] <rcjsuen> subanark: Is that the Java 6 compielr?
[20:50:21] <subanark> well, it might work under java 6, but I think they suggest you use Java 7
[20:51:26] <subanark> Its a special version of the compiler that allows annotations in more locations
[20:51:29] <rcjsuen> You can't tell Eclipse to use another compiler.
[20:51:32] <rcjsuen> Well, you could use Ant
[20:51:34] <rcjsuen> That...kinda counts
[20:51:44] <rcjsuen> you can change the compiler compliance
[20:51:47] <rcjsuen> but i'm not seeing any 1.7 setting
[20:51:50] <rcjsuen> so i think you're out of luck
[20:52:18] <subanark> Well, I tried importing from an ant file, but it said it could not find any javac task (since it doesn't use the standard javac)
[20:52:34] <subanark> They give directions on how to build in netbeans, just not eclipse
[20:53:23] <stompeers_> How would I create a project that has a local copy and a remote copy that are synchronized using FTP?
[20:55:23] <stompeers_> I'm able to connect to a remote site, and set up a remote project via the TM module...
[20:55:41] <stompeers_> But need to retain a local copy of changes made to the online project
[20:56:39] <stompeers_> This is the one feature I need in order to start using eclipse for my default editor, but am having a heck of a time with it!!!
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[20:59:28] <rcjsuen> stompeers_: Might want to try TM's newsgroup, someone there might know.
[21:04:02] <Kaon1> rcjsuen, it works now, thanks
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[21:05:03] <rcjsuen> Kaon1: Cool.
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[21:07:38] <Kaon1> rjcuen, one more thing, why isn't it active by default?  I mean I have to go to the customize perspective and select the added category ?
[21:10:30] <rcjsuen> Active?
[21:11:30] <Kaon1> aw, seems it hasn't been working :(
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[21:25:56] <MikeMmm> I'm in the process of developing a rich client app - does anyone know of a good plugin for displaying a pipeline?
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[21:27:34] <stompeers_> rcjsuen: Thanks for the tip, I've posted to the newsgroup. It seems like there would be a simple answer here...
[21:28:01] <fnadsfasd> if there is any java game developer pls pm me
[21:34:04] <queuetue> I'm building a shared lib and a separate test harness project for it.  How do I link to a library in another project - without installing it in this computer's load path?  Do I modify the load path by hand to include it, or is there a builtin mechanism to manage this in eclipse?
[21:35:18] <queuetue> And header files, too.
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[21:36:36] <queuetue> This is in C, not Java.
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[21:41:01] <jholman> Using Eclipse 3.3.1.1 for Java dev.  I'm trying to configure the code formatter in Prefs->Java->CodeStyle->Formatter.  I want it to never worry about linewrapping, and leave that to me.  I want all the other features of code formatting.  I can't figure out how to turn off line-wrapping.
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[21:41:42] <jholman> It seems like if I set the line length really long, it undoes my manual wrapping.  There's no option to "leave wrapping as is", as far as I can see.
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[21:42:34] <jholman> Does anyone have any advice about this, either on fixing it directly, or on where I should go to do a better job of RTM-ing?
[21:42:59] <dominikg> jholman, i've noticed that aswell and usually resort to 'fix indentation' (ctrl-a ctrl-i) instead of 'format' (ctrl-f)
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[21:44:00] <jholman> hmn.
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[21:46:09] <jholman> ctrl-shift-f (format) does everything in CodeStyle->CleanUp, I think, which includes but is not restricted to CodeStyle->Format
[21:46:33] <jholman> I think?
[21:47:06] <jholman> hmn, no it doesn't
[21:47:20] <markhamc> jholman: that's what I was about to say
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[21:47:40] <jholman> anyway, even aside from that, there's more under Format than just Indentation and LineWrapping
[21:47:43] <markhamc> I don't know of a way to turn off line wrapping either
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[21:49:10] <orionrobots> I am a bit of a JUnit newbie, and have mostly used eclipse from CDT, but I am seeing some very odd behaviour stepping through some code in a JUnit test. The strings are being assigned things like "(id=25)" instead of what the code intends them to be assigned. Eg: String testString = "abc123" comes out in the variables window as testString : "(id=27)".
[21:49:31] <orionrobots> Am I missing something here?
[21:49:46] <dominikg> orionrobots, thats not the string value but the object id
[21:49:53] <orionrobots> Ok.
[21:49:56] <dominikg> select it to see the value in the box below
[21:50:18] <orionrobots> Umm - it does have quotes. The box below is showing (id=27)..
[21:50:36] <dominikg> got a screenshot?
[21:50:38] <dominikg> ~image
[21:50:40] <KOS-MOS> Please upload your screenshots online - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
[21:50:50] <orionrobots> Coming up..
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[21:53:16] <orionrobots> http://imagebin.org/14415
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[21:54:47] <jholman> Hmn.  Tentatively looks like my complaint is a known issue: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=198074
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[21:58:31] <jholman> Hmn.  It's impossible to vote for a bug without posting my email address, isn't it?
[21:58:54] <paulweb515> jholman: without having a bugzilla email address, anyway ...
[21:59:04] <paulweb515> orionrobots: wow, how'd you get it to do that?
[21:59:46] <orionrobots> Ummm... You guys tell me! I don't know - but it is doing it consistently.. And failing my tests..
[21:59:52] <orionrobots> I did see another quirk today
[22:00:08] <paulweb515> orionrobots: what JVM are you using?
[22:00:20] <orionrobots> Which was a using System.out.printf to format floats resulted in blank outputs for the float.
[22:00:25] <orionrobots> Let me check...
[22:00:55] <paulweb515> orionrobots: oh, it's GCJ
[22:00:56] <orionrobots> Hmmm - that may explain a lot... "gcj"...
[22:01:05] <paulweb515> orionrobots: try something like a sun JVM
[22:01:06] <orionrobots> Right - time to change it then..
[22:01:10] <paulweb515> Uh, JRE technically
[22:01:35] <orionrobots> I had a permgen memory issue earlier too - so added a tweak to the vm params.
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[22:02:03] <orionrobots> Going to get it to use the sun JRE and come back later...
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[22:02:44] <Veinor> I have a dark theme, so I want my editor to be the same... but no matter how hard I try, I can't change the default text color.
[22:03:02] <fnadsfasd> if there is any java game developer pls pm me
[22:04:16] <dominikg> fnadsfasd, you may want to try ##java
[22:05:15] <dominikg> Veinor, you're not alone with that... i gave up after trying for some time. jdt seems to insist on black letters.
[22:05:26] <dominikg> dunno for other editors.
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[22:05:49] <dob1> hi, i have problems to install the hibernate eclipse plugin, on the update site i have put http://download.jboss.org/jbosstools/updates/stable   but when i select the hibernate tools, on the software updtate window i get this error : http://img159.imageshack.us/my.php?image=schermata1sl4.png
[22:05:51] <orionrobots> Thanks people.. Let you know how I do.
[22:06:12] <Veinor> well, if I go into Java->Editor->Syntax Coloring, I can change that fine. But not if I go under General->Editors->Text Editors and change Foreground Color
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[22:07:07] <Veinor> and I need to use the latter for PyDev
[22:07:08] <markhamc> Veinor: is there more missing that you can't change from Syntax Coloring?
[22:07:35] <Veinor> I can change everything just fine from Syntax Coloring, but none of it takes effect if I'm doing a PyDev project, which is what I'm primarily using Eclipse for.
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[22:08:59] <markhamc> Try General->Appearance->Colors and Fonts
[22:09:08] <Veinor> And change what?
[22:09:39] <markhamc> Basic->Text Font
[22:09:39] <markhamc> [The text font is used by text editors.]
[22:09:54] <Veinor> No way to change the color though.
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[22:10:56] <jholman> thanks for the input on the linewrapping, all y'all
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[22:12:20] <markhamc> Veinor: sure enough, changes don't stick
[22:12:43] <markhamc> if there is not any preferences for pydev then i guess you can't do
[22:12:52] <markhamc> maybe search/log a bug
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[22:13:06] <Veinor> Yep. Also I can't seem to get the documentation to show up offline. Dunno if that's because I installed via apt-get or not.
[22:14:22] <markhamc> possibly, I usually stick with the manual install on linux because the apt packages are so far behind
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[22:14:36] <markhamc> last week when I checked they were still on 3.2
[22:15:49] <Veinor> Yep.
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[22:16:00] <Veinor> I'll probably do that when I get net access on that computer again.
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[22:20:28] <markhamc> rcjsuen: thanks for your help earlier, I got it working by creating a new workspace and reimporting all my projects
[22:20:46] <rcjsuen> ic
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[22:24:56] <DaveyB`> When I run Eclipse on a project in Windows I get "Launch Failed No Binaries", I have already selected the PE Windows Parsers as stipulated on google.  Any other ideas?
[22:25:17] <rcjsuen> DaveyB`: ChrisRecoskie might be able to help you, or try the CDT newsgroups.
[22:25:52] <DaveyB`> OK.
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[22:27:02] <DaveyB`> Does Eclipse come with it's own compiler in Windows?
[22:27:14] <rcjsuen> CDT does not include any C/C++ compilers.
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[22:27:27] <DaveyB`> Now that makes sense.
[22:27:54] <rcjsuen> You might want to look at Wascana.
[22:27:57] <rcjsuen> http://sourceforge.net/projects/wascana
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[22:36:16] <stompeers_> Where can I find an update link to the WebDAV/FTP plugin? The links on the main page don't seem to work?
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[22:42:32] <stompeers_> I can't find it anywhere!
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[22:47:09] <queuetue> When I drag files into an eclipse project, they don't get added to the project - it just doesn't do anything after the drop.  Is there another way to add existing files to eclipse?
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[22:48:27] <mross> Question from a noobie:I'm developing a C library for Linux using CDT under Mac OS X. As a result, I would like to be able to build, run, and debug my project on a linux machine which I have ssh and sftp access to and would like to have that work with the CDT. How should I setup the CDT to accomplish this?
[22:49:25] <ChrisRecoskie__> mross:  it's not entirely straightforward to setup right now....
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[22:49:45] <queuetue> Copy/pase from filesystem works, even if drag/drop doesn't.
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[22:50:27] <ChrisRecoskie> mross:  if you can mount the source in the same directory on both machines with NFS or Samba you can get it to work decently albeit slowly
[22:52:09] <ChrisRecoskie> mross: as far as setting up building you can replace your build command with an ssh command.  For debugging you could run gdbserver maybe
[22:52:57] <yakman_> how do you turn on the breakpoints view? i cant seem to find it
[22:53:12] <mross> ChrisRecoskie, Since I can't do mount the source in the same directory on both machines, can I do it another way? Can I integrate sftp upload into the build process?
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[22:54:35] <ChrisRecoskie> mross:  are you generating a makefile with CDT or are you using an existing/handcoded makefile?
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[22:54:41] <rcjsuen> stompeers_: that plug-in is old and unsupported
[22:54:49] <rcjsuen> yakman_: Ctrl+3, 'break'?
[22:55:19] <stompeers_> rcjsuen: Right, but from what I hear, the only way I can connect a local project to a remote server is to use that plugin. Am I wrong?
[22:55:30] <rcjsuen> stompeers_: dunno, i don't do remote server what-not
[22:55:42] <ChrisRecoskie> mross: if it's a generated makefile the problem will be that the paths won't be correct as they will be generated with respect to the machine you're running Eclipse on
[22:56:01] <stompeers_> I've been on this for hours, it seems like there would be a simple answer. :(
[22:56:03] <mross> ChrisRecoskie, I am using a handcoded makefile which I would to like have upload to target make and used by make in the build process
[22:56:07] <ChrisRecoskie> mross:  also even if you get it to work the build output may or may not be parsed correctly for errors
[22:56:35] <stompeers_> I feel like I must be missing something fundamental in how Eclipse is supposed to work.
[22:56:54] <ChrisRecoskie> mross: upload shouldn't be a problem... the build command can be any arbitrary shell command so you should be able to embed whatever you want in a shell script or in the ssh command, or whatever you wish
[22:57:07] <rcjsuen> stompeers_: What are you trying to do again?
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[22:57:30] <stompeers_> rcjsuen: I'm trying to connect a local project with a remote project, using FTP
[22:57:55] <rcjsuen> I think TM creates a bridge between the two.
[22:57:56] <yakman_> rcjsnen: pressing ctrl+3 doesnt do anything for me
[22:57:57] <rcjsuen> So when you save it uploads
[22:57:59] <rcjsuen> or something like that
[22:58:04] <rcjsuen> yakman_: Window > Show View > Other > go
[22:58:15] <stompeers_> rcjsuen: I currently use dreamweaver, where you can set up an FTP account for each project. Uploading / synchronizing is pretty simple there.
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[22:58:30] <yakman_> ah got it now
[22:58:39] <stompeers_> rcjsuen: I've been able to create a remote project that way, but it doesn't save a local copy
[22:58:57] <stompeers_> rcjsuen: Having a local copy is critical for testing purposes
[22:59:40] <mross> ChrisRecoskie, Are you sure there is not a better way to do this? What do embedded systems developers using Eclipse do?
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[23:02:28] <rcjsuen> stompeers_: http://archive.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.2.2-200702121330/index.php
[23:03:12] <ChrisRecoskie> mross:  Sadly there real good way right now... CDT as it is now is designed only to work on local machines.  We're in the middle of building a remote-enabled CDT but it's nowhere near done yet.  See http://wiki.eclipse.org/PTP/planning/remote
[23:03:28] <stompeers_> rcjsuen: Thank you!
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[23:07:37] <cedrichurst> i'm having a problem figuring out how to set the jvm eclipse uses to launch
[23:07:57] <cedrichurst> "java -version" from the command line produces "ibm jre 1.5.0" (which is what i want)
[23:08:03] <rcjsuen> cedrichurst: You mean which one to launch Eclipse or what
[23:08:24] <cedrichurst> but when i launch eclipse and look at the configuration, it's still using sun 1.6.0
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[23:08:38] <cedrichurst> rcjsuen: yes, which one  to launch eclipse with
[23:08:51] <rcjsuen> ~tell cedrichurst about vm
[23:08:51] <KOS-MOS> cedrichurst: To learn more about the Eclipse launcher / binary, see - http://www.eclipse.org/swt/launcher.html - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_Launcher - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/misc/launcher.html
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[23:13:21] <cedrichurst> rcjsuen: my eclipse.ini file contains the following and it's still launching with sun...
[23:13:25] <cedrichurst> rcjsuen: "%JAVA_HOME%\bin\javaw.exe"
[23:13:34] <cedrichurst> rcjsuen: er, sorry... -vm "%JAVA_HOME%\bin\javaw.exe" -vmargs -Dosgi.requiredJavaVersion=1.5 -Xms40m -Xmx1500m -XX:MaxPermSize=512M
[23:14:29] <rcjsuen> I think you should hard code in %JAVA_HOME% instead.
[23:14:44] <rcjsuen> At least, that's what I would do.
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[23:15:41] <mross> ChrisRecoskie, will Target Management Terminal do the trick for me?
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[23:17:52] <cedrichurst> rcjsuen: even with the value hard-coded, i'm still getting sun
[23:18:14] <rcjsuen> cedrichurst: Did you try typing it in directly on the command line?
[23:18:17] <rcjsuen> eclipse.exe -vm blah blah blah
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[23:19:01] <mross> ChrisRecoskie, will Target Management Terminal do the trick for me?
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[23:19:41] <ChrisRecoskie__> mross:  that will just give you a terminal window to the remote machine, it won't do anything special with respect to making your development environment work remotely
[23:19:54] <cedrichurst> rcjsuen: typing directly into the command line fixed it... any thoughts on why eclipse with be ignoring the ini file?
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[23:20:09] <ijuma> cedrichurst: have you tried putting each argument in a separate line?
[23:20:15] <rcjsuen> Are you sure it's ignoring it?
[23:20:18] <rcjsuen> ijuma: Gooooooooooood point.
[23:20:25] <ChrisRecoskie__> bbl
[23:20:26] <rcjsuen> Especially since by default it's not IIRC.
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[23:20:33] <rcjsuen> Becaues it uses \n line delimiters only ;)
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[23:21:14] <cedrichurst> i don't have any line delimiters in my file
[23:21:15] <mross> ChrisRecoskie, what about remote system explorer end-user runtime?
[23:21:21] <cedrichurst> just space delimiters
[23:21:52] <rcjsuen> well
[23:21:54] <rcjsuen> start punching them in
[23:22:27] <kartben> is bugzilla kind of down ?
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[23:23:23] <TheBase> hello
[23:24:21] <rcjsuen> the_giver: Hi
[23:24:28] <rcjsuen> kartben: Similar complains on #eclipse-dev.
[23:24:36] <rcjsuen> complaints, rather
[23:24:49] <rcjsuen> we're back
[23:25:16] <TheBase> I'm trying to run a program using a bigger heap. I know the command like is like this "ava -Xms<initial heap size> -Xmx<maximum heap size>" but where do I configure it on Eclipse?
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[23:25:47] <dominikg> TheBase, check the vm arguments section of the launch configuration ( run... )
[23:25:47] <kartben> rcjsuen: thanks :)
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[23:28:10] <TheBase> dominikg, what are those variables ?
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[23:30:22] <TheBase> I put -Xmx100m in the box but it's not working
[23:30:37] <ChrisRecoskie__> mross:  RSE will serve up the files but CDT won't really know what to do with them for the most part.  RSE is what we're using as a basis for RDT
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[23:37:53] <stompeers_> rcjsuen: Is anyone here using the WebDAV / FTP plugin?
[23:38:08] <rcjsuen> Don't think so. I think most people use TM.
[23:38:09] <stompeers_> (sorry for the ping, rcjsuen!)
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[23:38:30] <rcjsuen> Since that plug-in is unmaintained unlike TM.
[23:38:56] <stompeers_> Right. Are there any folks here doing web development with Eclipse?
[23:39:14] <stompeers_> I'm curious if maybe I'm looking for the wrong thing, here.
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[23:44:21] <nitind> There are a lot of folks doing web development with Eclipse, you just seem to be stumbling over the usage of TM and RSE.
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[23:46:48] <nitind> And RSE uses some pretty recent developments about how the workspace works, invalidating a lot of assumptions that have been made by other plug-ins.
[23:47:01] <rcjsuen> true
[23:47:08] <stompeers_> nitind: I figured my problem is probably a common one. I run a server on my local machine. When I need to make so adjustments to a remote site, I test it out on my local host and then FTP the changed files. How can I create that workflow with TM?
[23:47:36] <stompeers_> Without create two separate projects and dragging and dropping between them?
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[23:52:41] <TheBase> I made a program that has a method that calls itself. I used the -Xms256m -Xmx512m and the method could call itself 8000 times. When I use -Xms512m -Xmx1024m it makes no difference. Why is that? I have a 1g of RAM but should it use virtual memory (like the swap in linux)?ps: I'm running windows
[23:53:12] <stompeers_> I'm really sorry to keep pounding the IRC channel, but I feel like there's got to be an answer
[23:53:30] <ijuma> TheBase: what error do you get? If it's a StackOverflowException you need to increase your stack, not your heap
[23:54:07] <TheBase> java.lang.StackOverflowError. :( I thought it was the same
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[23:54:16] <rcjsuen> TheBase: newp
[23:55:18] <ijuma> TheBase: -xss
[23:55:29] <ijuma> TheBase: I mean -Xss
[23:56:06] <TheBase> ijuma, yes. I'm trying that now. Thanks.
[23:56:19] <ijuma> don't go overboard with the size btw ;)
[23:56:21] <TheBase> what is the difference between stack and heap?
[23:56:38] <TheBase> ijuma, I can't promess that :p
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[23:56:47] <rcjsuen> Wikipedia would probably give you the "best" answer.
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[23:57:29] <ijuma> TheBase: google usually works ;) first result was http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=31755&seqNum=8
[23:57:44] <TheBase> I'll see
[23:57:45] <TheBase> thanks
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[23:59:02] <ijuma> np
[23:59:26] <TheBase> uuuuuooooaaaahhhhhh

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