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[00:02:20] <Kaon1> in GMF, how can I rotate a figure while it's being put on the form, the scenario is that i have box and wanna add other figures to its edges but want them to rotate 90' depending on which side(left/rgith) they are being attached to, any suggestions?
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[00:17:10] <SamuraiDio> hi
[00:18:00] <SamuraiDio> what plugin (and from where) should i install to have an editor to sql scripts (with syntax highlights)?
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[00:23:04] <rcjsuen> SamuraiDio: Probably something from DTP I guess.
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[00:29:36] <SamuraiDio> DTP means what?
[00:29:58] <rcjsuen> ~g eclipsedtp
[00:29:58] <KOS-MOS> Try googling - http://google.com/search?q=eclipsedtp
[00:29:59] <rcjsuen> ~g eclipse dtp
[00:30:00] <KOS-MOS> Try googling - http://google.com/search?q=eclipse+dtp
[00:30:09] <SamuraiDio> i found it ^^
[00:30:11] <kartben> Data Tools Platform
[00:30:19] <Kaon1> in GMF, how can I rotate a figure while it's being put on the form, the scenario is that i have box and wanna add other figures to its edges but want them to rotate 90' depending on which side(left/rgith) they are being attached to, any suggestions?
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[00:32:33] <SamuraiDio> do someone knows if  SQL Edge® is as good as it say?
[00:33:04] <SamuraiDio> actually, i just need an sql script editor, but an ER Model editor would come handly
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[00:49:02] <stm555> this is most assuredly a dumb question, but how do I install the ANT plugin?
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[01:04:35] <SamuraiDio> i'm sure that this is a stupid questio but...
[01:04:42] <SamuraiDio> what means SDK?
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[01:05:53] <hannoman> hi all
[01:06:11] <stm555> Software Development Kit
[01:06:26] <stm555> it is thrown about a lot in eclipse. :)
[01:06:58] <stm555> sometimes it is hard to tell if a feature is a framework to allow development, or just a feature
[01:07:15] <hannoman> i've got a problem with the debugger
[01:07:30] <zx|cafe> stm555: what do you mean by the ANT plug-in?
[01:07:51] <stm555> Well, everything I'm reading kind of assumes all the ant funcationality is built in
[01:08:07] <stm555> but I can't find the run as ant script option
[01:08:36] <stm555> I also do not have the ant section in preferences
[01:08:40] <hannoman> when running my program in debug mode it halts before an assertion ist violated as expected
[01:08:44] <stm555> so I figured it was a plugin that I was missing?
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[01:10:28] <hannoman> but when using "drop to frame" to return to the beginning to the function where the assertion is violated, and resuming execution from that point, the debugger halts on an other assertion, which is checked before the original assertion
[01:10:56] <eduardo> hello, somebody know how I can use GWT visually ?
[01:11:10] <hannoman> anyone experienced something like this, or got any clues ?
[01:12:13] <eduardo> Google Web Toolkit? anyone ?
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[01:17:54] <Windcape> hi, how can I make eclipse codecompletion work when I'm offline. arg0,arg1,arg2 as method argument names aren't usefull at all.
[01:17:58] <zx|cafe> stm555: If you go to Help->About and look at plug-in details
[01:18:12] <zx|cafe> stm555: do you see the org.eclipse.ant.core or ant.ui plug-ins listed?
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[01:19:16] <stm555> yes, I do see them.
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[01:20:00] <stm555> zx|café: I'm running a packaged version of Eclipse -- could the packager have disabled it? Can I re-enable it?
[01:24:11] <eduardo> anyone know Google Web Toolkit ?
[01:25:55] <SamuraiDio> stm555, for install GEF, shouold i install the SDK or the other one?
[01:26:14] <zx|cafe> stm555: to access launching Ant files, click Run->External Tools->External Tools Configurations
[01:26:17] <zx|cafe> stm555: should be in there
[01:26:30] <zx|cafe> stm555: which package? or who packaged it?
[01:27:25] <stm555> zx|cafe: Zend Studio for Eclipse / Zend
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[01:28:07] <zx|cafe> stm555: Well, if you see those ant plug-ins in the plug-in details, I'm pretty sure they are there
[01:28:50] <stm555> zx|café: I was wondering about that since I couldn't find any them listed in plugins to install..
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[01:29:22] <stm555> SamuraiDio: I really don't know -- I'm not even sure what GEF is. :)
[01:30:01] <zx|cafe> stm555: The ANT stuff is in the External Tools launcher thing
[01:30:16] <stm555> zx|café: I don't see External Tools Configurations under Run->External Tools
[01:30:42] <zx|cafe> stm555: what's there?
[01:31:39] <stm555> zx|café: I do have a 'Open External Tools dialog' -- but it is empty with no controls apparent..
[01:32:14] <stm555> zx|café: the new/delete/etc icons are grayed out and nothin is listed in the left panel
[01:33:05] <zx|cafe> stm555: For some reason it looks like Zend isn't enabling you to access Ant related functionality
[01:33:36] <stm555> zx|café: is there anyway to get around that?
[01:33:59] <zx|cafe> stm555: probably... I'm curious what they are doing... are those plug-ins active by any chance?
[01:34:10] <zx|cafe> stm555: before we get any further, if you create a project and create a file called 'build.xml'
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[01:34:35] <zx|cafe> stm555: can you right clic kthat file and do Open With... and select Ant Editor?
[01:35:00] <stm555> zx|café: I've got one. I can manually switch the editor to the Ant editor.
[01:36:30] <stm555> zx|café: I think they are active -- but I'm not sure how to tell.. I checked the manager plugins section to see if there was anything for me to re-activate there and I did not find any.
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[01:42:06] <zx|cafe> stm555: the easiest way to check is the 'Plug-in Registry' view if they included that within the product
[01:43:53] <stm555> zx|café:I don't see it in the views list
[01:44:33] <stm555> zx|café: Yes, I can open with -> other -> Ant Editor
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[02:01:36] <safak> hello
[02:01:41] <safak> quick question
[02:02:07] <safak> why does eclipse need an extension registry if all extensions can be read out of the directory called plugin  ?
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[02:22:18] <stm555> zx|café: thanks for the help. I guess I'll just go bug Zend about why they decided to cripple part of eclipse.. :p
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[02:28:17] <Zack1403> anyone here use the jasperassistant plugin?
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[05:46:11] <ceSto> whenever i refresh my page within eclipse it shows the old results even after changes are made...it seems it's caching or soemthing..is there a feature within eclipse that i can turn off?
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[07:12:10] <mmr> hail
[07:13:23] <mmr> is there a subversive channel?
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[08:17:57] <webPrag\Laptop> how do you do a block quote I forgot.... I know a "line" quote is ctrl-/
[08:19:17] <webPrag\Laptop> nm got it
[08:22:27] <webPrag\Laptop> why can't i edit the "resource" or "path" in the Tasks thing?
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[09:28:03] <gluonman> I am used to programming C++ in Visual Studio. But I just installed Eclipse on my Linux computer and I would like to know basically how to set up and run a C++ program in Eclipse. Can anyone help me?
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[09:36:25] <th00ry> gluonman, you need to get eclipse cdt and possibly install gcc / g++ for your computer
[09:36:26] <th00ry> ~cdt
[09:36:27] <KOS-MOS> Take a look at the C/C++ Development Tools - http://www.eclipse.org/cdt
[09:37:01] <gluonman> th00ry, I know I have g++ installed. Is cdt an addon? Or a separate IDE in synaptic?
[09:37:20] <th00ry> cdt is an addon to eclipse
[09:37:29] <th00ry> how did you install eclipse ?
[09:38:09] <th00ry> using your packet manager? if yes, then you should be able to install cdt using it, too... eclipse-cdt or so. otherwise, there is a cdt package in the download section
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[09:45:31] <gluonman> th00ry, ok. I have eclipse-cdt. How do I set-up, build, and run a C++ program using the IDE?
[09:45:40] <th00ry> umm
[09:45:47] <th00ry> start eclipse, open the c/c++ view then create a new projectr
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[09:48:32] <gluonman> th00ry, ok. I just wrote a basic cout<<"Hello world!"; program just to test it. But when I click run it gives me some options that don't exist in Visual Studio. What do I do?
[09:49:34] <th00ry> did you write it yourself or did you use the predefined project? normally you should be able to select the build (debug/release) afterwards it should compile and run it
[09:49:47] <th00ry> or close the window, press CTRL + B, then it should compile and start it then
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[09:51:27] <gluonman> th00ry, I wrote it myself. Where is the build option located?
[09:51:48] <th00ry> did you create a project first?
[09:52:05] <gluonman> th00ry, yes. And I added a source file to which I wrote the program.
[09:52:11] <th00ry> mmh
[09:53:05] <th00ry> how about creating a new hello world program?
[09:53:41] <gluonman> th00ry, what's the point in that when I just created this one? Or did I not set it up correctly? All I know is the Visual Studio procedure.
[09:55:16] <th00ry> i actually never really used VS :/ so i have no idea what exactly you were doing
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[09:56:09] <th00ry> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/cdt-home/user/faq.html?root=Tools_Project&view=co#create_10 << maybe this will help you
[09:57:00] <gluonman> Well, I clicked File --> New --> C++ project --> then right clicked the Include tab under the name of the project that I set up and added a new source file --> then wrote the program in the source file. Now that's where I'm stuck trying to figure out how to build and run it.
[09:57:17] <gluonman> I'll check that out.
[09:57:40] <th00ry> k... most probably, you haven't got a build configuration defined or haven't added the file to the build configuration ... but i'm not sure tbh
[09:57:53] <th00ry> never did more than basic things with the cdt
[09:59:09] <gluonman> According to the website, my problems finding the build option is because I had "Build Automatically" selected. So I'm deselecting it.
[09:59:23] <gluonman> If I have any problems after following the instructions on that site, I'll let you know.
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[10:01:48] <th00ry> ok
[10:02:07] <maitscha> hi! does somebody know which plugin contains the workbench help?
[10:02:41] <gluonman> th00ry, wait. Do you use #include<iostream> to use cout<< and cin>> or do you use #include<stdio.h> to use printf("blahblah\n");?
[10:04:12] <th00ry> #include <iostream>
[10:05:38] <gluonman> th00ry, do I have to add the Visual Studio's toolchain to CDT before I can use it the way I'm used to?
[10:05:57] <th00ry> what exactly do you mean with that?
[10:06:55] <gluonman> I just read something in that website that you gave me saying something about CDT not recognizing the existing toolchain [i.e. Visual Studio, etc.].
[10:07:08] <gluonman> I'm not entirely sure what that means, but I thought it might have something to do with my problem.
[10:08:14] <th00ry> well, since you are compiling on linux, visual studio shouldn't be your problem since it is for windows...
[10:08:14] <gluonman> It has to do with the toolchain and libraries of C++ that are included in the Visual Studio software.
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[10:08:35] <th00ry> well, on linux they are included in some package... but i have no idea which one that is for your distribution
[10:08:46] <gluonman> th00ry, I do not have a windows computer. When I program in Visual Studio, I go to the university's computer lab. But when I want to do my homework at home, I need to learn to do it in LInux.
[10:08:55] <th00ry> ah k
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[10:09:03] <gluonman> My distribution is Ubuntu Gutsy.
[10:09:35] <th00ry> well... as i said, you need to install the includes (libc6-dev ?), set up a project and then the rest should be done automatically - if you've chosen an automatic make project
[10:09:49] <gluonman> Ok.
[10:10:23] <gluonman> I just typed apt-get install libc6-dev and it says that I already have it.
[10:10:45] <gluonman> I'm going to play around with eclipse a bit and see if I can figure out how to build and run it.
[10:10:56] <th00ry> ok
[10:10:58] <gluonman> I set up the project and wrote the program. Running it is my only problem.
[10:11:35] <th00ry> yeah :D well, compile it first then right-click on the executable in your release / debug directory and run as
[10:12:57] <gluonman> when I click Run it opens a configuration manager. It asks me to create a configuration. I'm not used to that in Visual Studio. You just click Build and Debug and it just runs the program within Visual Studio.
[10:13:04] <gluonman> How do I create the configuration?
[10:13:20] <gluonman> And what is the release/debug directory?
[10:15:23] <th00ry> well... if it asks you for creating aconfiguration, you haven'T chosen an auto make project
[10:15:40] <th00ry> but i'm afraid that i never really worked with creating / modifying configurations
[10:15:44] <gluonman> I created a managed project. I thought that I had an auto make project.
[10:15:59] <gluonman> Okay. How do I setup an auto make project?
[10:19:19] <th00ry> managed make is what i meant ;D
[10:20:14] <gluonman> That's what I did. hmmmm
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[10:26:01] <gluonman> fuck. I don't know.
[10:26:23] <th00ry> i don't either :D
[10:26:25] <th00ry> sorry
[10:26:31] <gluonman> Oh, it's okay.
[10:26:49] <gluonman> What do you usually use?
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[12:02:45] <shafire> hi
[12:02:45] <shafire> :)
[12:02:52] <shafire> i can't get grails support in eclipse :(
[12:02:59] <shafire> something not working
[12:03:10] <shafire> at it's damaging my grails project
[12:03:18] <shafire> with putting thousand of nonsense files ...
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[12:07:35] <pol-pot> Anyone knows how I make eclipse include a secondary web-root when I use JSP?
[12:08:26] <pol-pot> I'm trying to work with liferay, and it want me to include some jsp-files from a secondary source.
[12:08:31] <pol-pot> How can I do this?
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[12:38:53] <Hypenate> Hi :o)
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[12:39:54] <Hypenate> How do I build a program so that another user can run in on their pc? I tried export, but that didn't work, and I can't find it in the FAQ
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[12:45:45] <Hypenate> right....
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[13:00:09] <Ovais> Hi, Is this the channel for questions related to RCP
[13:01:56] <dominikg> yes
[13:03:19] <Ovais> This is my first time, I have a question related to menus, toolbars. I need to know how can I get a reference to MenuManager, ToolBarManager object that contain top level menus or toolbar.
[13:04:40] <Ovais> I have the reference to IWorkbenchWindow, how can I use this to get reference to MenuManager or ToolBarManager
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[13:05:49] <Ovais> I need to locate certain top level menus (or submenus) and disable/enable them or change the icon etc.
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[13:12:31] <Ovais> anybody knows the answer?
[13:14:55] <dominikg> Ovais, if noone answers right away, you can wait a bit (some ppl read the logs and reply later) or you can ask in the newsgroups
[13:14:57] <dominikg> ~news
[13:14:58] <KOS-MOS> Try asking for help on the newsgroups - http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/
[13:15:24] <Ovais> thanks
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[13:34:45] <ewet> hi, I see there's a amd64 build of eclipse, but what about the plugins? do I need amd64-bulit ones?
[13:35:37] <dominikg> no
[13:36:38] <dominikg> at least usually not. There may be plugins that utilize native stuff and depend on a specific arcitecture, but i havn't heard one jet
[13:36:50] <ewet> nice, thank you :)
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[13:58:20] <paulweb515_> Ovais: For example?  Normally, if you didn't contribute them yourself you can't get at them
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[13:59:07] <Ovais> Hi Paul, also added this question to the newsgroup and put some code there
[13:59:26] <paulweb515_> oh, OK ... I'll probably get to it Mon or Tues
[13:59:59] <Ovais> I created some actions in the ApplicationActionBarAdvisor class and saved a reference to IToolBarManager in a Global Context object
[14:00:50] <Ovais> Context.getInstance().getToolBarManager().find(id).setEnabled(true)
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[14:02:53] <Ovais> Where id is ID of the action with which is was registered. When I switched from a standalone RCP app to make it also an Eclipse plugin, I could not use ApplicationActionBarAdvisor class to do not get a reference to the MenuManager class. So the question is there a way to get a reference to the IMenuManager that I can use to located actions?
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[15:02:29] <lnxnt> hi everyone
[15:02:53] <lnxnt> how can I customize the status bar ? I installed a plugin which placed adds and a message center into the status bar and I don't like it
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[15:16:32] <lnxnt> no idea ?
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[15:21:54] <lnxnt> ok then how can I remove the fast view button ?
[15:23:16] <rcjsuen> That's probably not possible.
[15:23:34] <rcjsuen> At least, probably not without excessive jumping through of hoops and walking on fire.
[15:23:36] <rcjsuen> repeatedly
[15:24:02] <lnxnt> wow
[15:24:08] <lnxnt> that's a pitty
[15:24:19] <rcjsuen> You might be able to in RCP I guess.
[15:24:26] <rcjsuen> what don't you like exactly
[15:25:24] <lnxnt> do you see the dotted line to the left of the button "fast view" ? When you right click on that "Dock On" appears
[15:25:42] <rcjsuen> Yes, that's a separator I think.
[15:26:22] <lnxnt> now a third party plug in called aptana has placed two extra dotted line on the status bar, one without any content and one with two content "mail center" and "try pro"
[15:27:10] <lnxnt> and I don't want to have them. Since they are exactly the same as the "fast view" dotted line if I knew how to remove that I could remove the other two as well
[15:30:41] <lnxnt> another thing is that when you right click on the fast view toolbar you get three grayed out options: close, Fast View, and Orientation
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[15:31:05] <lnxnt> that looks like one could remove fast view but it is grayed out
[15:34:10] <lnxnt> ah, the one without content is the progress bar :)
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[16:19:44] <Jimbob2k> hey eclipsers.
[16:20:44] <Jimbob2k> I'm trying to remove my sun j2se and use the IBM one instead, I'm making changes to some plugins (CDT), but when I try to launch the new ones in a new eclipse I get:
[16:21:18] <Jimbob2k> "Cannot locate JRE definition: "jre1.6.0_03". Launch aborted.
[16:21:39] <Jimbob2k> anyone got any pointers on what could be the solution?
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[16:23:34] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: change your launch config to point to a valid jre?
[16:23:38] <roldyx> hello
[16:24:15] <roldyx> I am a new eclipse user..
[16:24:40] <roldyx> I have installed jboss
[16:24:58] <roldyx> and I need create .war file
[16:25:12] <Jimbob2k> execution environment?
[16:25:15] <roldyx> but I dont have export war file
[16:25:35] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: That's one way of going about it to save yourselves problems in the future.
[16:25:39] <rcjsuen> Though that wasn't what I meant.
[16:26:04] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen : Where is the launch config?
[16:26:20] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: In the run dialog?
[16:26:21] <Jimbob2k> I right click on the plugin and go to "Debug as"
[16:26:36] <rcjsuen> Don't tell me you've never opened the run dialog
[16:26:40] <roldyx> how to create a .war file??
[16:26:56] <rcjsuen> Is anyone familiar with TableWrapLayout/Data? I don't get this.
[16:27:25] <rcjsuen> All I want is two TableColumns to take up the same amount of space like a new GridLayout(2, true);.
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[16:28:16] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen : Weird, just going into that dialog (and not changing anything) seems to have fixed it, as if some properties got updated just by viewing the dialog..
[16:28:25] <roldyx> mmm I dont have J2EE perspective.. how can i install it?
[16:28:30] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: Likely.
[16:28:43] <rcjsuen> roldyx: I think you need to install WTP.
[16:28:52] <roldyx> WTP???
[16:28:59] <rcjsuen> ~g eclipse wtp
[16:29:00] <KOS-MOS> Try googling - http://google.com/search?q=eclipse+wtp
[16:29:08] <roldyx> ok
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[16:45:39] <folgore07>  Ciao a Tutti... ;)
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[17:05:23] <bobbytek> is there a way to prevent WTP from issuing a request at startup?
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[17:20:49] <litius> hey guys is there an eclipse repository (that I can point my "new remote site" to) that has maven 0.0.12 instead of maven 0.0.9? ("http://m2eclipse.codehaus.org/" has an old one :( ) Thank you!
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[17:25:54] <litius> "http://m2eclipse.codehaus.org/update/" does require subversion, but I don't need it.. :-/
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[17:29:48] <Razec> hi all
[17:29:55] <rcjsuen> Razec: Hi
[17:30:13] <litius> ok. solved it.
[17:30:29] <litius> just removed subversion dependency... that was easy.
[17:30:37] <Razec> rcjsuen, buddy..=) Do you know plugin to open project NETBEANS in the Eclipse?
[17:31:05] <rcjsuen> I'm afraid not.
[17:33:04] <Razec> rcjsuen, I understood...thanks
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[17:41:29] <fandsofnadsfa> how do i install eclipse ?
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[17:42:40] <rcjsuen> fandsofnadsfa: OS?
[17:42:49] <dominikg> fandsofnadsfa: go to www.eclipse.org/downloads , get the latest release , extract it
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[17:45:19] <fandsofnadsfa> win
[17:45:36] <fandsofnadsfa> it says that i need jdk
[17:46:36] <dominikg> www.java.sun.com <- get the latest java6 sdk there (chose the one without EE and without netbeans)
[17:48:59] <fandsofnadsfa> SDK Update 4 Downloads
[17:49:06] <fandsofnadsfa> Components Java EE Java EE 5 SDK is a free integrated development kit used to build, test, and deploy Java EE 5-based applications.
[17:49:07] <fandsofnadsfa>  Java EE + JDK Java EE 5 SDK + JDK adds support for Java Platform, Standard Edition (Java SE) 6 (JDK).
[17:49:07] <fandsofnadsfa>  App Platform Java Application Platform SDK contains all Java EE 5 SDK content and these additional runtimes: Open ESB, Sun Java System Access Manager, and Portlet Container.
[17:49:07] <fandsofnadsfa>  App Platform
[17:49:08] <fandsofnadsfa>      + JDK Java Application Platform SDK + JDK includes support for Java Platform, Standard Edition (Java SE) 6 (JDK).
[17:49:10] <fandsofnadsfa>  Java EE + Tools Java EE 5 Tools Bundle contains all Java Application Platform SDK content plus the NetBeans IDE and the Portal Pack plugin for creating portlets.
[17:49:15] <fandsofnadsfa> whops,excuse me
[17:49:19] <rcjsuen> holy mackerel
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[17:49:34] <fandsofnadsfa> im sorry
[17:49:41] <rcjsuen> fandsofnadsfa: http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/?intcmp=1281
[17:49:46] <rcjsuen> fandsofnadsfa: JDK Update 4, the first one there
[17:50:04] <rcjsuen> Although you might want to go for JDK 5 if you're on 64-bit, there are some problems with the 64-bit VM on JDK 6u4.
[17:50:10] <rcjsuen> afk
[17:50:13] <fandsofnadsfa> dominikg said without EE
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[18:04:29] <rcjsuen> fandsofnadsfa: yes, and that one is without EE
[18:04:52] <fandsofnadsfa> i cant download it
[18:05:30] <fandsofnadsfa> Your download transaction cannot be approved. Contact Customer Service.
[18:06:30] <rcjsuen> fandsofnadsfa: https://sdlc5e.sun.com/ECom/EComActionServlet;jsessionid=C3C413D2184850CF9E6C6E2DA300D4C5
[18:06:56] <fandsofnadsfa> thanks
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[18:29:11] <ijuma> actually the problem is with -server on jdk6u4
[18:29:18] <ijuma> it affects both 32-bits and 64-bits
[18:29:26] <ijuma> but the latter has no -client so there's no workaround
[18:29:31] <rcjsuen> ah
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[18:36:48] <bobbytek> Why does WTP invoke the welcome file(s) on startup?  Who does he think he is!
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[18:39:01] <fandsofnadsfa> is it possible to make a graphical games with java ?
[18:41:16] <Verkel> Take a look at http://jmonkeyengine.com/ for instance.
[18:42:20] <robinr> fandsofnadsfa: check mobile phones
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[18:42:40] <robinr> most come with a number of java games today
[18:42:53] <mohbana> hey guys
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[18:43:59] <mohbana> i was using fedora i committed by project to cvs, moved to ubuntu replaced the project with the lastest in head, but i get 'Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: CalendarExtractor : Unsupported major.minor version 51.0
[18:44:00] <mohbana> ' error, i am using icedtea both in ubuntu and fedora
[18:45:26] <rcjsuen> mohbana: class file versioning differences, the JRE in question seems incapable of running the app you wrote
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[18:53:52] <lnxnt> hi
[18:54:25] <lnxnt> what is the best way to deal with all your plugins ? I have 1245 plugins I guess and I want to make sure they are all ok and functional and so forth
[18:55:24] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure how one would check whether plug-ins were functional and okay. I guess you could check the OSGi console and your logs.
[18:55:40] <rcjsuen> Plug-ins don't get activated unless they have to. Technically they could be broken but unused so no one notices anything.
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[18:59:51] <lexs> is there replacements for the default editor?
[19:00:22] <rcjsuen> Replacements?
[19:00:44] <lexs> yeah, like plugins?
[19:00:51] <lexs> i don't like it :)
[19:00:57] <lexs> i don't really know why though
[19:01:09] <rcjsuen> lexs: Don't think there is what you want, at least, I never bothered to look.
[19:01:45] <rcjsuen> What exactly do you want
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[19:02:49] <lexs> something that at least supports smart tab, select text and tab
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[19:02:58] <lexs> the it indents instead of removes it
[19:03:38] <rcjsuen> I never even realized it did that.
[19:03:58] <lexs> oh
[19:04:02] <paulweb515_> lexs: sorry, are you saying you don't want the default editor to do smart tabs?
[19:04:02] <lexs> it does what i want ;D
[19:04:14] <rcjsuen> humbug
[19:04:22] <lexs> strange that it didn't when i tried last ;D
[19:04:40] <lexs> may have been a dream ;c
[19:04:43] <paulweb515_> lexs: the text editor that ships with eclipse supports moving the selected text over, as does the Java editor
[19:04:52] <paulweb515_> lexs: oh :-)
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[19:05:32] <lexs> i'll give eclipse another try
[19:05:42] <lexs> kdevelop is giving me headaces
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[19:06:29] <rcjsuen> while eating
[19:07:46] <sas171> hi. I'm using eclipse on gnome, but it looks not so good, the interface elements are huge... how can I make them so compact like on windows?
[19:08:34] <rcjsuen> there's some .gtkrc magic you can do iirc
[19:09:16] <robinr> making sure your dpi setting is correct is one thing
[19:09:47] <sas171> yep i found it, but wenn I write the settings in gtkrc all the other application look very ugly
[19:10:02] <sas171> is there a way to run eclipse as another user or so?
[19:10:05] <rcjsuen> well, you can tweak it to only change Eclipse actually
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[19:10:53] <rcjsuen> Knock yourself out http://blog.xam.dk/archives/81-Making-Eclipse-look-good-on-Linux.html
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[19:12:31] <sas171_> sry, connection probs. so how can i tweak gtkrc to affect only eclipse?
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[19:15:38] <rcjsuen> sounds like more connection problems
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[19:33:04] <webPrag\Laptop> when you tell eclipse to save the project in the workspace how do you make it put it back to where it got it?
[19:33:51] <rcjsuen> say what now
[19:34:28] <webPrag\Laptop> I imported a project on a network drive.... and there's the option to "Save Project to local workspace"
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[19:37:19] <webPrag\Laptop> sorry it says "Copy projects to workspace"
[19:37:22] <webPrag\Laptop> into
[19:37:33] <rcjsuen> You can't tell it to just copy the contents back
[19:37:45] <rcjsuen> If you imported it it has no memory of its original location
[19:38:29] <webPrag\Laptop> ah ok ... is there a way to make it "copy" all of those files changed back to the original location (possibly during a Run command?)
[19:39:00] <webPrag\Laptop> or even instead of copying those files to the workspace can it cache the file locally
[19:39:10] <webPrag\Laptop> and retain the project on the "network" drive
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[19:41:41] <rcjsuen> can't really cache it
[19:41:47] <rcjsuen> either copy or not
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[19:52:34] <webPrag\Laptop> rcjsuen: can you make it not save whatever to the project deal after each character you type
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[19:56:51] <webPrag\Laptop> one sec let me try it
[19:56:51] <webPrag\Laptop> have to copy stuff back out of the worksapce
[19:56:51] <webPrag\Laptop> space*
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[20:00:25] <webPrag\Laptop> rcjsuen: is tm part of the discovery site?
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[20:01:00] <rcjsuen> T M was a part of Europa, yes
[20:01:22] <unipal> hello, how can I include multiple java source file into the main sourcefile?
[20:02:56] <rcjsuen> say what now
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[20:05:37] <fandsofnadsfa> how do i open a new command line with eclipse ?
[20:06:37] <webPrag\Laptop> rcjsuen: what am I looking for to get sftp working with TM?
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[20:06:43] <webPrag\Laptop> Remote Systems?
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[20:07:29] <rcjsuen> I've never used TM
[20:07:44] <rcjsuen> there's at least one other sftp plug-in, don't know if that' any good
[20:09:49] <fandsofnadsfa> how do i open a new command line with eclipse ?
[20:10:02] <rcjsuen> fandsofnadsfa: you mean embed an xterm in Eclipse?
[20:10:11] <fandsofnadsfa> uhm
[20:10:24] <rcjsuen> I don't think what you want is possible.
[20:10:37] <rcjsuen> Unless you just want a shorthand for Windows+R / cmd.exe
[20:10:53] <rcjsuen> and even for that it's not that great
[20:11:03] <benny`work> there is a shell plugin somewhere which simulates cmd.exe, bash, etc in a view
[20:11:49] <webPrag\Laptop> rcjsuen: the second paragraph is exactly my problem
[20:11:49] <webPrag\Laptop> http://www.freshblurbs.com/best-sftp-plugin-eclipse
[20:11:57] <benny`work> http://www.wickedshell.net/
[20:11:57] <webPrag\Laptop> Reason being - Eclipse constantly analyses project files and over SSH it is just  too darn slow.
[20:12:05] <benny`work> fandsofnadsfa, that was for you
[20:12:13] <rcjsuen> well, yo ucan't tell it to not analyze
[20:12:47] <rcjsuen> turning off auto refresh might help, i dunno tho
[20:14:07] <webPrag\Laptop> rcjsuen: where's that option?
[20:14:15] <webPrag\Laptop> I would rather use a project
[20:14:24] <rcjsuen> check your preferences
[20:14:25] <rcjsuen> General
[20:14:28] <rcjsuen> or General / Workspace
[20:14:29] <rcjsuen> or something
[20:14:48] <rcjsuen> fandsofnadsfa: Yo uwant to run a Hello world in Java?
[20:14:49] <webPrag\Laptop> it's not checked heh
[20:14:57] <webPrag\Laptop> "Refresh automatically"
[20:14:58] <rcjsuen> figures
[20:15:01] <rcjsuen> it's not checked by default anyway IIRC
[20:15:12] <webPrag\Laptop> "Build automaticall"
[20:15:22] <webPrag\Laptop> does that apply?
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[20:15:35] <rcjsuen> That really depends on what builders you have.
[20:15:40] <webPrag\Laptop> none?
[20:15:41] <webPrag\Laptop> heh
[20:15:57] <rcjsuen> That's a little hard to believe unless you're wroking with .txt files
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[20:16:39] <fandsofnadsfa> so.. im not so familiar with eclipse
[20:16:49] <fandsofnadsfa> and.. lets say that i want to run a hello word
[20:16:54] <fandsofnadsfa> how do i do it ?
[20:16:55] <webPrag\Laptop> rcjsuen: well the are just scripts? I don't have anything to build
[20:16:58] <webPrag\Laptop> they*
[20:17:08] <rcjsuen> what scripts
[20:17:10] <rcjsuen> fandsofnadsfa: What language?
[20:17:35] <webPrag\Laptop> rcjsuen: php scripts.... nothing to build.... save it to the server is all i am doing
[20:18:00] <fandsofnadsfa> rcjsuen java
[20:18:01] <rcjsuen> are you using PDT or something?
[20:18:06] <rcjsuen> builder doesn't mean "build" all the time
[20:18:17] <rcjsuen> webPrag\Laptop: a plug-in could use a "builder" to scan your php files
[20:18:24] <rcjsuen> to provide syntax highlighting / content assist
[20:18:25] <rcjsuen> that kinda metadata
[20:18:36] <rcjsuen> fandsofnadsfa: well, to start off, make a Java project
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[20:18:59] <fandsofnadsfa> rcjsuen yea.. and ?
[20:19:12] <rcjsuen> then make a new java class with the hello world code
[20:19:17] <rcjsuen> i'm assuming you know how to code in Java at least
[20:19:39] <fandsofnadsfa> no.. im a newbie
[20:20:13] <rcjsuen> well, you might want to read some tutorials online then
[20:20:30] <rcjsuen> probably teach a lot better than all of us combined
[20:21:49] <fandsofnadsfa> rcjsuen just tell me how do i open a new text editor
[20:22:01] <rcjsuen> well, when you make a new java class
[20:22:05] <rcjsuen> it'll open a new editor actually
[20:22:08] <rcjsuen> and when ou create one
[20:22:14] <unipal> hello everybody, how can I include multiple java class source files into the main source file?
[20:22:14] <rcjsuen> create a new file, it opens an editor anyway
[20:22:35] <fandsofnadsfa> rcjsuen how do i make a new java class
[20:22:36] <fandsofnadsfa> ?
[20:22:48] <rcjsuen> the same kind of way yo umake a new java project
[20:22:50] <rcjsuen> unipal: What do you mean
[20:23:19] <rcjsuen> unipal: each java file compiles into a class file (well, not literally a 1-to-1 mapping, but anyway)
[20:23:56] <rcjsuen> unipal: are you talking about making all the files into one .so or .dll file?
[20:24:28] <fandsofnadsfa> rcjsuen it dosent open the editor
[20:24:40] <rcjsuen> that's odd
[20:24:46] <rcjsuen> well, you can double click on the file in the Package Explorer
[20:24:58] <unipal> rcjsuen: In Eclipse I have on source file with main() and a separate class file with another class. But the compiler complains that it doesn't see the other class...
[20:25:23] <rcjsuen> sounds more like biuld path problems
[20:28:50] <unipal> In other programming languages I can include other source files with #include <file.ext>. With javac you include all source files on the command line. But how do I do this in Eclipse??
[20:30:29] <rcjsuen> unipal: s oyou have some other .class file for your project, yes?
[20:30:36] <rcjsuen> you want to modify your project's properties
[20:30:38] <rcjsuen> the Java Build Path page
[20:30:43] <rcjsuen> and add a class folder
[20:30:50] <unipal> yes!
[20:31:56] <unipal> I'm sorry, I mean two .java source files
[20:32:29] <unipal> One with main() and the other with another class
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[20:33:40] <rcjsuen> then just put them both in the src/ folder and go
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[20:34:17] <NetEffect> anyone use jsf in eclipse?
[20:34:36] <rcjsuen> unipal: are you using packages?
[20:34:53] <unipal> no
[20:35:13] <rcjsuen> Do you have a src folder?
[20:35:21] <unipal> yes
[20:35:32] <rcjsuen> so put them both inthere
[20:36:27] <unipal> they are both in the src folder
[20:36:38] <rcjsuen> so one class can't see the other?
[20:36:46] <rcjsuen> can you ~pastebin both .java files?
[20:36:46] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[20:37:09] <rcjsuen> fandsofnadsfa: Did you get your project setup yet?
[20:38:44] <unipal> that's right. Do you mean that when both file are in the src folder, the compiler has to see the other file?
[20:39:06] <rcjsuen> well, it shoud see the other file automagically actually
[20:40:41] <unipal> okay, then it has to be something else. At least I know now where to look from....
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[20:42:15] <lnxnt> rcjsuen: is there a way to manage plugins ? I am sure there are a lot of plugins that take space but I don't need
[20:42:30] <rcjsuen> depends what you mean by manage
[20:42:37] <rcjsuen> Window > Find and Install > Manage Configuration
[20:43:40] <lnxnt> rcjsuen: but I can't figure out there are 20 packages belonging to aptana for example do I need them all...I mean is there something that can give me a list like "you have installed top level plugins aptana, phpeclipse etc" and a dependency analysis saying "and these are the ones you can delete"
[20:44:02] <rcjsuen> Not exactly
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[20:50:43] <lnxnt> rcjsuen: that's difficult then
[20:51:39] <rcjsuen> you're telling me ;)
[20:52:16] <rcjsuen> that's why i use extensio nlocations
[20:52:21] <rcjsuen> well, i also only use one plug-in ;p
[20:52:31] <rcjsuen> but that's a lie since eclipse is a plug-in
[20:52:41] <lnxnt> which plugin do you use? ;)
[20:53:41] <rcjsuen> Subclipse
[20:55:56] <lnxnt> nice
[20:56:13] <lnxnt> what are extension locations ?
[20:56:39] <rcjsuen> ~manage
[20:56:40] <KOS-MOS> Manage your Eclipse environment - http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-ecl-manage/
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[20:57:34] <lnxnt> ah, sounds good
[20:57:36] <lnxnt> thanks
[20:57:59] <unipal> rcjsuen: about the class source files: I made a new src directory, copied/pasted all data and it works now....   Thanks for you help!
[20:58:08] <rcjsuen> o ok, cool
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[20:58:19] <rcjsuen> unipal: good luck with your project
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[21:04:38] <DB42> anybody here running eclipse under ubuntu ?
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[21:05:12] <webPrag\Laptop> pssh
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[21:05:40] <DB44> anybody here running eclipse under ubuntu ?
[21:05:58] <rcjsuen> DB44: I run it on Gentoo
[21:06:09] <rcjsuen> DB44: just ask the question if you have the question
[21:06:17] <DB44> i installed the eclipse-jdt package, but dont see it anywhere
[21:06:26] <DB44> i dont have eclipse in menus, dont have a eclipse executable..
[21:06:32] <rcjsuen> you coud try 'eclipse -clean'
[21:06:41] <rcjsuen> Although I'd recommend not using ubuntu's packages.
[21:06:50] <DB44> why not /
[21:06:51] <DB44> ?
[21:06:59] <rcjsuen> DB44: because every day someone like you comes and has problems
[21:07:24] <DB44> hehe, once i get it going it's ok
[21:08:05] <DB44> guess i need to install the "eclipse" package itself to get it to work
[21:08:09] <DB44> lame, but i''ll try
[21:09:42] <DB44> wow, this is a quite channel, is there another #eclipse channel ?
[21:09:53] <rcjsuen> no
[21:09:59] <rcjsuen> DB44: It's a Sunday
[21:10:05] <DB44> ahh, k
[21:10:08] <rcjsuen> okay, that's a lie,k there are other channels
[21:10:10] <DB44> sunday is a work day here
[21:10:11] <rcjsuen> but not as populated as this one
[21:10:30] <DB44> is 3.4 the next ver ?
[21:10:32] <rcjsuen> I've had to work half days on Saturdays, never Sunday though
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[21:10:49] <rcjsuen> yes, 3.4
[21:10:51] <DB44> here our rest day is friday, saturday
[21:11:54] <DB44> ahh, it's eclipse 3.2 here
[21:12:01] <DB44> maybe i should move to archlinux
[21:12:08] <rcjsuen> yes, i forgot to mention, packages are also old
[21:13:01] <DB44> archlinux has the latest and greatest i use it on my comp
[21:13:08] <DB44> this is a laptop, so i prefer a more stable dist
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[21:13:33] <rcjsuen> I know Gentoo has a 3.3.x build, dunno which one
[21:14:05] <rcjsuen> though that doesn't realy concern me
[21:14:14] <rcjsuen> since i don't use those packages anyway ;p
[21:18:21] <DB44> gentoo sux
[21:18:42] <rcjsuen> DB44: well, i don't mind it, if you don't like it, oh well :)
[21:18:47] <DB44> it lost it's way
[21:18:52] <rcjsuen> I'm not going to make anyone like it or hate it
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[21:20:00] <DB44> can i import in the CDT a makefile projec t?
[21:22:19] <DB44> any CDT users ?
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[21:51:33] <ruepelor> hello
[21:51:54] <rcjsuen> ruepelor: Hi
[21:52:23] <ruepelor> i have a problem, when moving the mouse over something that i want to get more infos about it looks like http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=eclipsecl7.png . but i can't read it, because of the strange colors, does anybody know what to change?
[21:52:56] <rcjsuen> ruepelor: You could check in the Java preferences.
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[21:53:38] <ruepelor> i didn't find anything..
[21:53:56] <ruepelor> so i thought perhaps somebody here could help me
[21:54:15] <rcjsuen> ruepelor: Window > Preferences > Java
[21:54:51] <rcjsuen> Java > Editor
[21:55:03] <rcjsuen> Might be one of those.
[21:55:15] <rcjsuen> or you could check in General > Appearance
[21:56:41] <ruepelor> i can't find that ugly dark green anywhere..
[21:57:16] <rcjsuen> ruepelor: When did this start happening
[21:57:49] <ruepelor> i think yesterday. since yesterday eclipse doesn't close every process of itself after exiting it..
[21:58:00] <ruepelor> i don't know what is happening
[21:58:04] <ruepelor> i just installed c(++) plugin
[21:58:09] <ruepelor> but it works without any problems
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[22:05:09] <ruepelor> does anybody know how such popup is called? perhaps i can find something about it..
[22:05:27] <rcjsuen> the general name is a text hover
[22:06:09] <ruepelor> ok
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[22:07:53] <ruepelor> i found where i can change if i want to see the hover or not, but no color option
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[23:09:52] <kb> does somebody use eclipse (with aptana and pdt) in gentoo amd 64?
[23:10:14] <kb> it crashes all the time if i want to open an html document
[23:10:33] <rcjsuen> ~tell kb about logs
[23:10:34] <KOS-MOS> kb: Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[23:12:48] <webPrag\Laptop> http://demo:demo at dev dot promotelabs.com << can someone tell me why the "main-block" background is a different width in IE7 than the "banner-block"
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[23:20:47] <webPrag\Laptop> woops wrong chan
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[23:31:56] <lnxnt> why are some plugins .jar files and others are directories ?
[23:33:41] <rcjsuen> lnxnt: That is just how it is. The old way was to use directories.
[23:33:57] <rcjsuen> Although some still requires directories, for whatever reasons (like if you had to do file IO you'd have to use directories).
[23:34:00] <rcjsuen> etc etc
[23:34:19] <lnxnt> ah ok
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[23:39:28] <mohbana> 1. what books do you guys recommend for swt? 2. what is sun's stance towards swt?
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[23:49:10] <zhil> hi
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