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[00:02:56] <noah> dominikg: oh, hmm, i have eclipse 3.2
[00:03:05] <noah> dominikg: it's what comes with ubuntu
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[00:04:55] <noah> so i gotta give up ubuntu's package handling and upgrade is the answer i guess
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[00:06:12] <dominikg> noah, yes, i'd recommend that. also make sure you don't run eclipse with gcj
[00:06:21] <dominikg> ~gcj
[00:06:21] <KOS-MOS> GCJ is not officially supported by Eclipse as a Java runtime environment. Please talk with your distribution's packaging team and/or the GCJ team for assistance. To run Eclipse with a different JVM, see: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I_just_installed_Eclipse_on_Linux.2C_but_it_does_not_start._What_is_the_problem.3F
[00:06:28] <dominikg> ~linux-install
[00:06:28] <KOS-MOS> Trying to install Eclipse on Linux? http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_install_Eclipse_on_Linux.3F
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[00:16:31] <noah> dominikg: ya the gcj thing i worked around already fortunately
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[00:24:35] <MarcWeber> I'm trying to compile from source however I'm puzzled http://rafb.net/p/Y2SJk037.html
[00:24:50] <MarcWeber> ecj.jar is created by build bu can't be found afterwards
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[00:31:12] <njbartlett> ~list
[00:31:13] <KOS-MOS> Check out the list of available messages and commands I provide - http://ecf.eclipse.org/~rcjsuen/messages.html - http://ecf.eclipse.org/~rcjsuen/commands.html
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[00:55:29] <noah> i'm getting an error in an xml document because eclipse can't find one of the schemas, but the xsd is in one of the dependency jars... can anybody advise on debugging this problem?
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[03:38:29] <neptun123> i want to add an object to an ArrayList with add(index, object)
[03:38:43] <neptun123> it only shifts the points to the right and inserts the object at index if index >= 1
[03:39:05] <neptun123> when i insert the object at index 0 i get duplicates of the object and the remainder of the list
[03:40:28] <neptun123> why?
[03:40:49] <rawblem> neptun123:  this question would be better suited for ##java
[03:41:49] <rawblem> neptun123:  also, i'm looking at java.util.ArrayList right now and it clearly does not do that
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[03:49:22] <neptun123> rawblem: you need to be identified to join ##java
[03:49:40] <neptun123> rawblem: this is my code http://pastecode.net/?action=viewpost&tag=2634
[03:49:49] <rawblem> neptun123:  so identify yourself to the network.
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[03:55:40] <rawblem> neptun123:  you're incorrect. look at the code for java.util.ArrayList
[03:55:48] <rawblem> neptun123:  it clearly shifts everything even if the index is 0
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[03:57:15] <neptun123> rawblem: thanks. where is the error in my code then?
[03:57:36] <the_giver> can i split a window in eclipse to view two parts of the same doc?
[03:57:40] <rawblem> neptun123:  i dont know
[03:59:07] <MacIver> neptun123: on line 1
[04:02:52] <neptun123> MacIver: what's wrong with "private static void addSorted(ArrayList<Point> points, Point p)" ?
[04:04:01] <MacIver> neptun123: have you thought of using something like a TreeMap instead?
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[04:05:10] <neptun123> i could do that (it would be much faster). but nevertheless i want to know what is wrong.
[04:07:44] <MacIver> why are you not breaking after you add?
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[04:09:49] <MacIver> neptun123: and please, use something like treemap, ok?
[04:09:59] <MacIver> neptun123: for the sake of humanity
[04:10:10] <neptun123> oops, forget that. ok, i'll do.
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[04:10:41] <neptun123> but sadly after that i'll have to convert the TreeSet to an ArrayList
[04:11:52] <MacIver> neptun123: nooo!
[04:12:23] <MacIver> neptun123: everytime someone does that they poke gosling in the eye
[04:13:31] <MacIver> neptun123: keep it always stored in the treeset, otherwise you lose all the speed
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[04:14:54] <neptun123> MacIver: of course it is dumb, but an ArrayList is after that required (first term exercise :-( )
[04:15:23] <MacIver> neptun123: then just do what you were doing...
[04:15:33] <MacIver> don't bother using the treeset
[04:16:29] <neptun123> so I could also insert the points without sorting and run quicksort on it
[04:16:56] <MacIver> quicksort is horrible
[04:17:04] <MacIver> use Collections.sort
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[04:17:21] <rawblem> MacIver:  he said its first term ;)  he probably has to write hte sort himself
[04:17:40] <MacIver> rawblem: true :-D
[04:17:51] <neptun123> rawblem: true
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[04:18:04] <neptun123> Collections.sort is prohibited
[04:18:07] <MacIver> neptun123: then just fix what you have
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[04:19:06] <neptun123> I did that. The break was missing. Thanks for your help.
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[04:20:42] <neptun123> is my simple algorithm faster than quicksort for SPARSE points?
[04:21:10] <neptun123> maybe qsort is overkill in such a situation
[04:22:13] <rawblem> yourrs is just a standard insert sort
[04:23:22] <MacIver> neptun123: so worse case...the points are given in reverse sorted order
[04:23:33] <MacIver> O(n^2)
[04:24:03] <MacIver> merge and heap sort operate in O(nlogn)
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[04:26:19] <neptun123> ok, mine is rather slow :-(
[04:27:08] <MacIver> neptun123: it's not too bad, really depends on how the data comes in
[04:27:43] <neptun123> random user input
[04:28:01] <neptun123> so everything's possible ;-)
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[04:57:18] <d3ity> hey all, few questions.... I'm a linux user, however all my computer science classes have focused on visual studio... I'd like to start coding on my own PC instead of using a windows machine.  Will eclipse make that transition any easier for me?  The languages I know (at least for the moment) and would like to code in are C/C++/C# and assembly.... is eclipse what I
[04:57:22] <d3ity> 'm looking for?
[04:58:44] <neptun123> in my computer science class we use Linux and Eclpise for Java  programming
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[05:00:38] <neptun123> Eclipse is one of the best IDEs for Linux Java programming. Plugins exist for the languages you mentioned.
[05:00:43] <neptun123> Try it out.
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[05:36:54] <BubbaT> neptun123 what other IDEs have you used?
[05:38:49] <MacIver> vim
[05:38:59] <Skrylar> :D
[05:39:42] <MacIver> visual ide manager
[05:42:20] * BubbaT thinks anyone who recommends a development by starting with the statement "in my computer science class..." is highly suspect, no matter what else they say.
[05:42:36] <BubbaT> s/development/development tool/
[05:43:11] <MacIver> in my intro to computer science class i took years ago, we used wordpad
[05:43:28] <MacIver> (well some used notepad, or edit)
[05:43:43] <MacIver> and then there was PFE...programmers file editor
[05:45:52] <happyface> in eclipse: I want the auto-formatter to put 2 spaces in front of comments, but it always reduces it to 1. I couldn't find an option to change this. Is it possible?
[05:49:27] <the_giver> how do i split view in ECLIPSE???
[05:49:33] <the_giver> i need to see the same document at two different locations
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[05:56:50] <erat123> I installed the eclipse-cdt package under ubuntu.  when i run my program I get the following error: "An internal error occured during: Launching"  ... has anyone ever gotten this?
[06:02:03] <erat123> Any idea's?
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[06:05:07] <ahughes> can anyone tell me if there is a way to run my multi module hierarchy maven projects inside eclipse
[06:05:40] <ahughes> I can either checkout everything on the command line... but then all my svn stuff is NOT in subclipse (verrrrrrrry annoying)
[06:07:59] <ahughes> or I can checkout the parent with subclipse... and then import the individual modules (not copying them into the workspace)... but thats not really going to help me synchronize with the reop eta eta eta... because the projects I just imported are imported... not checkout out from svn
[06:08:44] <ahughes> or if I do a co with subclipse of the individual modules, then I don't get any of the parent   mvn goals....
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[07:41:55] <SKuhn> hi, how can I restore an overwritten file (not checked in) if it's not in the local history because the project is in subversion?
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[07:44:43] <Tankado> Hello i have installed the CDT plugin, How can i open an existing project ? i dont have that option on the open screen like i had with java projects
[07:46:34] <Tankado> anyone?
[07:49:26] <SKuhn> on the open screen>?
[07:50:21] <Tankado> sorry on the new project screen
[07:55:02] <SKuhn> hmmm, i used it 3 years ago for university
[07:55:35] <SKuhn> and as far as I remember, CDT already had own projects
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[07:56:05] <SKuhn> I just know it took me a while to set up gcc and the debugger properly
[07:57:26] <Tankado> nvm i think i found it, i need to include it after i created the project.. i am just a bit new to c++
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[09:50:53] <PK> hey, did any of you try to run eclipse 3.3 64bit on ubuntu? I get both gdm and eclipse to use 100% usage which makes my notebook quite noisy :(
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[09:52:22] <PK> 32bit seems to work fine though
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[10:00:04] <matsuka> Morning, any Greek attending Eclipsecon this year ?
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[10:13:57] <mb__> Hi. Should i use httperf for stresstesting a web application, or is there a nice plugin for eclipse that i could use?
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[10:39:16] <ercete> hi there
[10:40:11] <ercete> I was  searching a key binding in eclipse for switching between opened files
[10:40:27] <ercete> the only command I found is NextEditor
[10:40:50] <ercete> and it sometimes goes crazy with Javascript & Web perspective
[10:40:57] <ercete> is there another way ?
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[10:45:19] <Ganem> hello everyone. does anyone know how to add POCO to eclipse?
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[12:53:01] <hw_> !pastebin
[12:53:02] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
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[12:55:49] <hw_> Anyone sees the root cause why eclipse will not start anymore? http://rafb.net/p/1wkFv286.html
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[13:10:42] <nitind> hw_: You're using gcj, but it's also possible your workspace or install has somehow been corrupted.
[13:12:03] <hw_> Actually it is very hard to find the reason why eclipse uses gcj instead of suns jvm
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[13:43:41] <hw_> Hmm, this gcj looks ugly. It was the cause for the non-working searching capabilitiy as well... =)
[13:44:38] <ScarFreewill> In eclipse's package tree (where you manage your project - left bar) how does the popup-menu know the difference between say a pakage and java treeItem? Are they different custom treeItem classes?
[13:45:11] <ScarFreewill> or just customized treeItems?
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[13:47:59] <hw_> And suns jvm seems to be much faster as well... ! :)
[13:49:48] <hw_> So if someone joins #eclipse saying that he can not search with eclipse, ubuntu and gcj then recommend suns jvm!
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[13:50:52] <paulweb515> ercete: ~keys
[13:50:52] <KOS-MOS> For a list of available key bindings press Ctrl + Shift + L. To configure your key bindings, see Window > Preference > General > Keys. See also http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#What.27s_the_key_for_....3F
[13:51:44] <paulweb515> ercete: CTRL+PAGE_UP/PAGE_DOWN will cycle through the tabs themselves, CTRL+F6 will allow you to walk the MRU list, and CTRL+SHIFT+E will give you a dialog to choose from
[13:52:04] <paulweb515> ercete: also, CTRL+3 will allow you to type an open editor filename to select it
[13:57:36] <ScarFreewill> is there a site where can I browse eclipse's source via http? like a cvs/svn bluild browser..
[13:58:32] <paulweb515> ScarFreewill: like this - http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/
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[14:00:14] <ScarFreewill> thanks paulweb515
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[14:10:30] <yarodin> where i can get russian lang pack for eclipse 3.3.1?
[14:11:38] <yarodin> 3.3.1.1 of course
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[14:35:48] <ercete> paulweb515: I already use Ctrl+PageUp/Down a lot, but the cycle breaks when falling on a Javascript Editor : it cycles between "source" and "preview" and I can no more cycle trough tabs...
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[14:36:09] <ercete> It's kind of inconvenient, I'll search if a bug has already been submitted
[14:37:23] <paulweb515> ercete: there is, it's a CTabFolder bug
[14:37:28] <paulweb515> (I don't know it off hand)
[14:37:42] <paulweb515> Use CTRL+F6 or CTRL+SHIFT+E or CTRL+3
[14:38:08] * ercete is affraid of workarounds
[14:38:19] <ercete> I'm kidding ;)
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[16:06:11] <_elemental> I've got a couple of files open in my eclipse instance, they are opened from a remote fs via ssh and everytime I try to close them eclipse locks up.  Is there a way I can open eclipse without it opening these files?
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[16:12:39] <paulweb515> _elemental: it won't try and open the files if the active editor that is closed is not one of these files.  If they haven't been instantiated, then a CTRL+SHIFT+W should close them without pain
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[16:54:39] <_elemental> paulweb515, I don't understand.  When I open eclipse these files are open
[16:55:28] <defranco> Hi all, some of my preferences windows is corrupted on my Eclipse 3.3.2. Any idea in how to troubleshoot and solve this problem? There is no software update and it is not generating any .log error.
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[16:55:55] <paulweb515> _elemental: were they open when you closed eclipse?
[16:56:00] <_elemental> yeah
[16:56:07] <_elemental> when i closed eclipse yesterday
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[16:56:21] <paulweb515> _elemental: oh, you need to solve the problem specifically ...
[16:57:35] <_elemental> hmmm, how do I find out what the problem is?
[16:57:41] <_elemental> I'm still kinda new to eclipse
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[16:58:08] <paulweb515> _elemental: is there anything in your log file?
[16:58:09] <paulweb515> ~logs
[16:58:10] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[16:59:06] <_elemental> hmmm, I don't see PDE Runtime
[17:00:07] <paulweb515> _elemental: then look in the physical file ....
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[17:13:58] <zx> _elemental: you can also go to Help->About->Configuration Details
[17:14:03] <zx> There should be a  button for View Error Log in there
[17:14:29] <_elemental> actually I solved it be deleting the temp files for remote systems
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[18:02:57] <NetEffect> http://paste.uni.cc/18374       i get this in eclipse, when i try to run a jsf page, what should i do?
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[18:08:27] <moepman> is there a plugin for eclipse that provides a command line? i need to check the code i made from a terminal
[18:09:57] <dominikg> ~searchplugins wicked shell shelled
[18:09:57] <KOS-MOS> Try searching for plug-ins: http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/modules.php?name=search&action=search&q=wicked+shell+shelled - http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/search.jsp?query=wicked+shell+shelled
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[18:14:39] <jimcan> hi all, I wrote a method that lists all of the files in a project (project.members())...in my plugin I created some filters so that certain folders don't appear in the project. The problem is that when I list all the members of the project I get those folder back
[18:15:00] <jimcan> any way to apply the filters defined in the package explorer to the list I am printing out?
[18:17:54] <moepman> dominikg, sorry, there was no shell that can be used for ssh connections
[18:18:34] <dominikg> maybe the remote system explorer has a shell view
[18:18:36] <dominikg> ~tm
[18:18:37] <KOS-MOS> Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
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[18:31:52] <NetEffect> i have copied jstl.jar and standard.jar to the WEB-INF/lib directory, but they do not show up in eclipse
[18:31:54] <NetEffect> what do i do?
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[18:42:20] <dominikg> NetEffect: did you refresh the project afterwards?
[18:42:31] <NetEffect> yes.
[18:42:41] <NetEffect> i will be back, h ave to do some stuff
[18:42:44] <NetEffect> thx though
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[18:54:59] <wy> Is there a way to update a file automatically whenever I change the file outside eclipse? Currently it only update a file when the editor is switched to that file
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[18:56:22] <dominikg> wy: there is a preference to automatically refresh periodically
[18:56:45] <dominikg> you can also refresh manually (context menu or f5)
[18:56:59] <wy> Thanks
[18:58:40] <wy> dominikg: Where can I find these options? I want to disable the prompt window when a file is changed outside eclipse and update it automatically
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[19:01:07] <dominikg> wy: automatic refresh is in preferences->general->workspace
[19:02:36] <wy> dominikg: oh, it added all the files in the directory to the project
[19:03:08] <dominikg> the project _is_ the directory
[19:03:30] <dominikg> (if we're talking about a /workspace/project one)
[19:03:58] <wy> dominikg: normally the files are not included if I don't do it manually
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[19:04:39] <dominikg> yes, thats because eclipse does not keep track of external changes (for historical/performance/idontknow reasons)
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[19:05:07] <dominikg> but technically, a project is a directory, that inclues some metadata files (.project etc)
[19:05:29] <wy> Do you think automatic refresh is a good idea?
[19:06:17] <dominikg> i don't use it. I edit my projects files through eclipse whenever possible and do manual refreshes if i need to do something outside
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[19:07:38] <seanmh> Does anyone know of a visual SQL query designer for eclipse?
[19:09:29] <wy> dominikg: It seems F5 is not the key for refresh
[19:10:52] <dominikg> wy, you can checl available key-bindings with ctrl-shift-L. But i'm pretty sure f5 is refresh, you need to select an item to refresh in the package/project explorer
[19:10:57] <dominikg> *check
[19:11:28] <dominikg> seanmh: i think a visual query designer is on the roadmap for DTP www.eclipse.org/dtp
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[19:12:57] <dominikg> if its not a must to use eclipse, check aqua data studio www.aquafold.com aswell.
[19:12:58] <wy> yes it is, but it is a little different from automatic refresh
[19:13:25] <wy> when I press F5, the files not not all refreshed
[19:13:44] <seanmh> dominikg: thanks
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[19:20:16] <NetEffect> so my host has me using java 5, that is what they have installed...
[19:20:33] <NetEffect> and so when i install tomcat, should i say that the java runtime is 5?
[19:20:54] <NetEffect> ...and point it to the appropriate dir?
[19:21:24] <seanmh> Can someone help me with BIRT?
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[19:29:41] <Arathorn> hi all - can anyone tell me where I might find the org.eclipse.cdt.source plugin for 5.0.0.x?
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[19:30:21] <NiSoOo> hey, im having some weird problem /w eclipse & ubuntu..
[19:30:46] <NiSoOo> it says i have no JDK and JRE, but i installed them through synaptic
[19:30:54] <Arathorn> does such a thing actually exist? (alternatively, how do I turn a checkout of pserver:dev.eclipse.org:/cvsroot/tools/org.eclipse.cdt-releng/all into a source plugin project?)
[19:33:56] <dominikg> ~tell NiSoOo about gcj
[19:33:56] <KOS-MOS> NiSoOo: GCJ is not officially supported by Eclipse as a Java runtime environment. Please talk with your distribution's packaging team and/or the GCJ team for assistance. To run Eclipse with a different JVM, see: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I_just_installed_Eclipse_on_Linux.2C_but_it_does_not_start._What_is_the_problem.3F
[19:34:06] <dominikg> ~tell NiSoOo anout linux-install
[19:34:20] <dominikg> ~tell NiSoOo about linux-install
[19:34:20] <KOS-MOS> NiSoOo: Trying to install Eclipse on Linux? http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_install_Eclipse_on_Linux.3F
[19:35:07] <dominikg> Arathorn, if you use the cvs repository perspective and select 'check out as project...' it should be set up alright
[19:35:33] <Arathorn> hm, i think i must have checked out the parent folder rather than all the individual source plugins, then
[19:35:36] * Arathorn tries an individual one
[19:36:27] <Arathorn> ah, yes - that seems to have worked
[19:36:28] <Arathorn> thanks :)
[19:36:56] <jimcan> for an IFolder resource, is the createFolder() method recursive? That is, if the parent folder doesn't exist, will it be created?
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[20:10:22] <nitind> jimcan: Does the javadoc on the method claim so?
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[20:22:38] <Arathorn> what does //$NON-NLS-1$ mean as a comment (in the CDT source?)
[20:23:58] <Arathorn> oh, i18n stuff
[20:24:13] <Arathorn> ming
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[20:34:44] <francis4> jimcan: no, you have to create the parent folders yourself
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[21:00:08] <happyface> in eclipse: I want the auto-formatter to put 2 spaces in front of comments, but it always reduces it to 1. I couldn't find an option to change this. Is it possible?
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[21:06:39] <nitind> happyface: For which language?
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[21:13:05] <Hamtar1> Hi all, I have installed EclipseFP for Haskell, but now, how to compile with Haskell ? (compiler and ghci are installed too)
[21:13:23] <happyface> nitind, java
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[21:15:44] <Hamtaro> Hi all, I have installed EclipseFP for Haskell, but now, how to compile with Haskell ? (compiler and ghci are installed too)
[21:17:49] <Hamtaro> ?
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[21:20:28] <Hamtaro> Nobody can help me ?
[21:21:23] <paulweb515_> Hamtaro: usually the plugin site or the plugin itself would have come with a getting started guide
[21:21:31] <paulweb515_> Hamtaro: I'd use that if I were you
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[21:25:59] <Hamtaro> Hum the plugin site is : http://eclipsefp.sourceforge.net/ and I don't see any started guide...
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[21:36:28] <happyface> nitind, do you know how to fix the spacing?
[21:38:16] <paulweb515_> Hamtaro: http://cohatoe.blogspot.com/2007/04/unit-testing-in-haskell.html
[21:38:44] <paulweb515_> Hamtaro: google is your friend :-)  They mention that it ships with help, go to Help>Help Contents
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[21:40:49] <nitind> happyface: I don't think so.
[21:40:54] <happyface> :(
[21:41:18] <happyface> so I would need to edit eclipses source or make a plugin, right?
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[21:44:12] <nitind> happyface: Sounds like.
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[21:50:56] <Hamtaro> paul_web515 : In this it's said "Save. This will trigger the auto building..." but for me there is nothing when I save
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[22:16:03] <mk_> how do I enable annotations? (the gray boxes on the right that show variable occurences)
[22:16:19] <mk_> is there a way to display the project name in the title bar?
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[22:37:29] <juacom99> hi
[22:37:45] <juacom99> can anyone plese help me with a event problem
[22:39:14] <d_a_carver> juacom99: just ask the question.
[22:39:32] <juacom99> i dot two casses client and triviaManager
[22:39:56] <juacom99> i want to add a custom event in TriviaManager
[22:40:14] <juacom99> and add a handler for that event
[22:40:36] <juacom99> in the TriviaManager object i got in Clinet
[22:40:45] <juacom99> is is posible?? how?
[22:41:15] <juacom99> i read about a class call eventObject
[22:41:27] <juacom99> but i didn't understund what to do
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[22:58:54] <juacom99> no one :(
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