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[00:02:04] <discodan> JakeConnor try ctrl+1 for a quick fix when your cursor is over the variable
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[00:14:16] <Hattori> how to edit a properties file?
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[00:35:11] <Hattori> Sysdeo plugin tells:
[00:35:12] <Hattori> Files not exported to WAR files are listed in resources.properties file : project.warExport.exclude.files
[00:35:12] <Hattori> how to edit that file?
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[00:35:24] <Hattori> i can find it with windows search, it's under /src, but i can't understand where it's located..
[00:35:26] <Hattori> am i dumb?
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[00:42:29] <NetEffect> i have eclipse europa 3.3, should i run the update software wizard?
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[00:47:34] <NetEffect> i wonder how come callisto doesn't show up
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[00:55:07] <nitind> NetEffect: Yes.  Callisto was 2006, Europa was 2007.  It's not unusual not to see it mentioned in your updates.
[00:55:36] <NetEffect> oh ok
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[00:56:47] <Hattori> how can i rebuild a jar?
[00:57:03] <Hattori> i extracted files from jar with winrar
[00:57:08] <Hattori> how can i rebuild the jar?
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[00:58:33] <NetEffect> is it     jar -cvf files outfile.jar?
[00:58:50] <NetEffect> something like that anyway
[01:00:26] <nitind> The other way around.
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[01:29:35] <Hattori> jar xf tomcat.jar
[01:29:43] <Hattori> edit resources.properties
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[01:29:53] <Hattori> jar uf tomcat.jar resources.properties
[01:29:56] <Hattori> did the trick
[01:30:01] <Hattori> night
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[01:56:31] <pac1> Where can I find a good up to date Tomcat servlet tutorial for eclipse?
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[01:59:18] <konigsberg> Hi, problem with <visibleFor> for o.e.ui.menus.
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[02:00:32] <konigsberg> When using http://pastebin.ca/911379
[02:00:46] <konigsberg> (which basically should trigger when selecting a single IFile resource)
[02:01:01] <konigsberg> It does not seem to fire when the resource is a .java file.
[02:01:30] <konigsberg> Seems like a bug to me. Am I wrong?
[02:01:34] <konigsberg> (Perhaps I should just submit the bug)
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[02:17:38] <konigsberg> Never mind, I added bug 219717
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[02:21:29] <NetEffect> ok i got a basic jsp page to run, i want to use jsf now.  i put in a tablib line but it says
[02:21:48] <NetEffect> cannot find the tag library descriptor for java.sun.com/jsf/core
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[02:56:12] <renier> on 3.3, how can I set the tab width to 8 spaces?
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[02:57:22] <MrPrise> hello
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[03:00:03] <MrPrise> I started to use eclipse for my c++ development. I would like to add the include directories but it seems I have to add all of them manually for the c and c++ compiler and again for the debug and release targets. is there any way to copy these settings?
[03:00:32] <MrPrise> or define a default values
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[03:01:19] <pac1> MrPrise, can you make a template project that has the include directories and copy it for each new project?
[03:02:00] <MrPrise> are you asking from me? ;-) I don't know, I just started to use eclipse ;-)
[03:03:34] <pac1> mrPrise, me too.
[03:04:00] <MrPrise> if I can do this I have to add manually them for the first time, which is pain.
[03:04:31] <MrPrise> nevermind. I have to sleep. bye
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[03:09:09] <NetEffect> i downloaded jsf1.2 07 and i wanna install it to use in eclipse
[03:09:14] <NetEffect> i dunno what to do next
[03:10:28] <NetEffect> do i put something in my WEB-INF/lib dir?
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[03:18:01] <NetEffect> it says i need Dyanmic Web Module 2.5 or newer
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[03:18:15] <renier> I saw this bug fixed (CDT tab width). but I still see it in 3.3.1.1. Any one seeing a regression?
[03:18:18] <renier> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=102718
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[03:23:18] <NetEffect> how do i install dynamic web module 2.5?
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[03:28:44] <NetEffect> is it possible to use jsf1.2 in eclipse?
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[03:47:56] *** conundrum changes topic to "Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org) - Eclipse 3.3.1.1 and the Europa Fall Maintenance Packages have been released! 3.4M5 has been declared, Ganymede M5 coming soon - http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ - Browse the FAQ at http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ and blog about all things Eclipse at http://www.planeteclipse.org/ blah"
[03:47:57] *** ChanServ changes topic to "Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org) - Eclipse 3.3.1.1 and the Europa Fall Maintenance Packages have been released!  3.4M5 has been declared, Ganymede M5 coming soon - http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/ - Browse the FAQ at http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ and blog about all things Eclipse at http://www.planeteclipse.org/"
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[03:49:10] <happyface> in eclipse: I want the auto-formatter to put 2 spaces in front of comments, but it always reduces it to 1. I couldn't find an option to change this. Is it possible?
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[03:53:58] <damog> is this about the eclipse happening right now?
[03:54:02] * damog ducks!
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[03:57:49] <NetEffect> hehe
[03:58:09] <NetEffect> ok i got dynamic web 2.5 installed, tomcat 6, and i wanna make a jsf page
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[04:06:13] <NetEffect> hmm i cant' get "run on server" to work
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[04:15:10] <NetEffect> what does JPA stand for
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[04:43:56] <Cheezmeister> Ah needs help! I'm on Xubuntu and Eclipse has decided to cease functioning without any apparent reason; error pops up shortly after starting telling me to look at the log in my workspace, and it contains all of this: http://rafb.net/p/GEXpPN67.html
[04:43:57] <Cheezmeister> Anyone know what I broke :]?
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[04:44:59] <noah_> is there a global font size setting or something like that somewhere?
[04:45:18] <noah_> fonts everywhere are small for me
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[04:59:35] <pfein> lunar eclipse!
[05:00:27] <Cheezmeister> Ba-dum tshhhh.
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[05:03:04] <happyface> in eclipse: I want the auto-formatter to put 2 spaces in front of comments, but it always reduces it to 1. I couldn't find an option to change this. Is it possible?
[05:06:53] <rcjsuen> Cheezmeister: sounds like your workspace got smoked
[05:12:13] <Cheezmeister> Hey rcjsuen, thanks for the response. What would you suggest I do to quickly get up and running?
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[05:12:51] <defranco> hey guys, any idea if PDT (PHP for eclipse) works on Eclipse 3.4?
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[05:22:46] <blbrown> I was trying to associate a xml file (xul extension) with eclipse so that I could edit it with formatting.  I added the schema, but it still doesn't recognize the file and only shows up as text editing.  the xul file has the xmlns (namespace) and it seems to be in the xml catalog.  Anyone have any ideas on what I am trying to do
[05:28:46] <d_a_carver> blbrown: did you add the .xul extension to the XML Content-Type to associate it with the XML editors.
[05:29:16] <blbrown> d_a_carver, yep; in the file associations
[05:29:23] <d_a_carver> blbrown: Need to go to Content-Type
[05:29:28] <blbrown> oh
[05:29:53] <d_a_carver> blbrown: File Assications may be needed as well, but the XML editors rely on Content Type for their associated editors.
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[05:30:11] <blbrown> thanks
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[05:30:46] <d_a_carver> blbrown: no problem.  it's one of the tricky things about the xml related editors.
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[05:43:57] <rcjsuen> Cheezmeister: well, you could use -data to specify another folder to see if starting Eclipse on a non-existent workspace works
[05:54:07] <Cheezmeister> Hey rcjsuen, that worked. Much thanks!
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[09:00:56] <ld> hi, I'm trying to run the pdt budled eclipse on a 64 bit linux system and it fails with "Exit code=13"... any idea what I'm doing wrong?
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[09:20:46] <mjbroek> hey there.. been having a fight lately with eclipse.. its crashing with the final message:
[09:20:47] <mjbroek> # Problematic frame:
[09:20:47] <mjbroek> # C  [libmozjs.so+0x1ba5a]
[09:21:12] <mjbroek> anyone know whats going on? ill get version numbers
[09:24:02] <mjbroek> well eclipse 3.3.1.1 and i tried with sun and blackdown jdk
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[09:45:07] <patrin70> Hi all
[09:45:38] <patrin70> I've implemented a builder to perform the validation of an XML file
[09:45:53] <patrin70> I'm able to send markers to the problems view
[09:46:35] <patrin70> but I would also show an error decorator on the problematic resource in the project explorer tree
[09:46:50] <patrin70> how this can be done ?
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[09:53:17] <JakeConnor> i was watching this screen cast of someone making a project in eclipse and they pulled out a contextual menu while focused on their code and were able to generate get and set methods for the variables in their class... i tried mimicking it but i don't see the options... anyone know how to do this?
[09:58:57] <psst> JakeConnor: you can right-click on a variable, and do Refactor->Encapsulate
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[10:00:06] <psst> JakeConnor: or I think you can right click on the class and do Source->Generate Getters and Setters
[10:02:05] <JakeConnor> psst: sweet... i'm also using eclipse for php development, is there a way to do this in php as well?
[10:05:13] <psst> JakeConnor: Never used PHP.  Suck it and see?
[10:05:26] <JakeConnor> suck it?
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[10:11:09] <Skrylar> Ey, is it normal for apps you run in eclipse to ignore memory settings?
[10:11:44] <Skrylar> I tried using the VM Arguments to set a max heap, but the app being ran seems to be ignoring it.
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[10:25:33] <Icchan^> Hi to everyone.
[10:25:42] <Skrylar> Hi.
[10:25:51] <Skrylar> I hope I'm just being paranoid. :S
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[10:26:07] * Skrylar is worried about the fact his 6 line java app is reporting 40mb memory usage.
[10:26:17] <Icchan^> im not sure where to ask about this. It's apparently a bug in elder versions of eclipse.
[10:26:49] <Icchan^> and since im at schools computer, i can't update
[10:27:35] <ijuma> Skrylar: how did you set the max heap?
[10:27:37] <Icchan^> googled like 3 to 4 days about this. hopefully you can help me out.
[10:28:11] <ijuma> Skrylar: also, maybe try to set the minimum heap to be lower, I am not sure what the behaviour is when max heap is lower than min heap
[10:28:11] <Icchan^> What to do when eclipse soesn't show up the console putput and displays only "No consoles to display at this time"
[10:28:33] <Skrylar> ijuma: -Xms40m -Xmx40m -XX:MaxHeapFreeRatio=30 -XX:MinHeapFreeRatio=30
[10:28:51] <ijuma> Skrylar: preceded by -vmargs ?
[10:29:01] <Skrylar> This is the VM args for an app in eclipse.
[10:29:04] <Icchan^> Version: 3.3.1 Build id: M20070921-1145
[10:29:11] <Skrylar> If I put the -vmargs in there it causes crashery.
[10:29:15] <ijuma> Skrylar: normal java app then, not eclipse-bsaed?
[10:29:18] <ijuma> based*
[10:29:21] <Skrylar> Nah, it's just launched from eclipse
[10:29:33] <ijuma> right, then indeed you don't need -vmargs
[10:29:39] <Icchan^> i'm sorry for typos... this keyboard is killing me :(
[10:29:45] <Skrylar> I think jME may just be that huge.
[10:29:54] <ijuma> Skrylar: so, what's the issue? If you set it to min heap to 40m, then it will be 40m
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[10:30:11] <Skrylar> Well I set it to 20 earlier.
[10:30:17] <Skrylar> And the app still was reporting 40
[10:30:28] <ijuma> Icchan^: why is eclipse supposed to show a console? It would only do that if there's something that allocates one
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[10:30:45] <ijuma> Skrylar: how did you verify this value?
[10:30:52] <Skrylar> Task manager :X
[10:31:02] <Ububegin> hei, i am using eclipse.. shld i download a **plugin for JEE** or download the **Eclipse IDE for Java EE** or are they the same :?
[10:31:07] <ijuma> that doesn't give you the heap memory
[10:31:12] <Icchan^> i need it for debug... at my home computer it displays ok whit this project
[10:31:13] <ijuma> there are other things
[10:31:23] <ijuma> Skrylar: use jconsole to check the breakdown
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[10:31:40] <ijuma> Icchan^: so you launch an application and no console is displayed?
[10:32:18] <ijuma> Icchan^: go to your launcher and in the "Common" tab there's a "Allocate console" checkbox
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[10:35:27] <Ububegin> hei, i am using eclipse.. shld i download a **plugin for JEE** or download the **Eclipse IDE for Java EE** or are they the same :?
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[10:40:49] <Ububegin> Anyone home :?
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[10:48:41] <Skrylar> Ububegin: It sounds like the plugin is if you already have Eclipse for SE
[10:48:52] <Skrylar> and the EE version just comes with it installed already.
[10:49:01] <Skrylar> But I haven't done a whole lot with J2EE in quite a while.
[10:49:28] <Ububegin> Skrylar : which plugin is best suited.
[10:49:38] <Skrylar> For...?
[10:49:46] <Skrylar> There's like.. a half dozen plugins for eclipse ._.
[10:50:05] <Skrylar> Well, bakers dozen.
[10:50:06] <Skrylar> Either wya.
[10:50:08] <Skrylar> *way
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[10:50:32] <Ububegin> Skrylar: i oredi have the eclipse fo SE.... if i install the EE version oso, shldnt cos any problems, right
[10:50:54] <Skrylar> Unless you try to use the same workspace for both, you should be fine.
[10:51:18] <Ububegin> Skrylar: So use different workspaces... thanks chief...
[10:52:34] <Skrylar> :>
[10:53:32] <psst> How can I automate eclipse GUI tests?
[10:54:08] <Skrylar> Oof.
[10:54:12] <Skrylar> Are you on a mac by chance?
[10:54:23] <psst> I am
[10:54:27] <Skrylar> Nifty.
[10:54:41] <Skrylar> You might be able to use Applescript to trigger the GUI elements.
[10:54:45] <psst> but I need to automate on windows or linux
[10:54:49] <Skrylar> Oh.
[10:55:00] <psst> preferably both
[10:55:10] <Skrylar> On windows, I don't know that you can aside from using some kind of macro program.
[10:55:26] <Skrylar> I think linux has a couple testing suites, not sure if they work with anything but Tk interfaces though.
[10:55:41] <psst> ok - thanks
[10:55:56] <Skrylar> :D
[10:56:14] <psst> I read somewhere about TPTP, but so far I haven't been able to do much with it
[10:56:49] <Skrylar> SWT apps use native controls, so on a mac you can probaly use Applescript's support for arbitrary GUI controlling.
[10:56:54] <Skrylar> I don't think it'd work for Swing, though.
[10:56:59] <Skrylar> Probably just AWT and SWT.
[11:01:16] <psst> The eclipse products I work with aren't available for Mac
[11:01:34] <Skrylar> So much for write once run anywhere XD
[11:02:21] <psst> was never going to happen with this bloatware, shoe-horned into eclipse by management edict
[11:02:42] <Skrylar> What plugins do you have jammed in there?
[11:02:47] <Skrylar> Or are they secret
[11:05:19] <psst> not plugins
[11:05:45] <psst> entire products, built on the rcp or similar
[11:05:57] <Skrylar> Ah.
[11:06:01] <Skrylar> I'm just using raw eclipse.
[11:06:18] <Skrylar> But, I'm developing solo so I can do that XD
[11:06:19] <psst> things that used to be outside eclipse and still have C++ runtimes
[11:06:27] <Skrylar> Yuck.
[11:06:46] <Skrylar> I'll put up with C, but C++ is just icky.
[11:06:53] <psst> My view is that no self-respecting developer would do such a thing.
[11:07:02] <Skrylar> Oh I can see why you would do it.
[11:07:32] <Skrylar> If you had to do something at the system level or if you profiled it out properly I can see it.
[11:07:36] <Skrylar> But yeah, generally theres no need.
[11:07:52] <Skrylar> Sounds more like somebody thought Eclipse was cool so they copy/pasted half of it in :P
[11:08:17] <psst> I think it takes an entirely different focus, where developing a good product is only a secondary consideration.
[11:08:48] <psst> The sort of attitude that produced Windows ME
[11:09:14] <Skrylar> Or vista :D
[11:09:31] <psst> um - Windows Millenium, I mean - that thinly veiled rehash of windows 98
[11:09:40] <psst> millennium
[11:09:49] <Skrylar> Yeah, the one most people skipped.
[11:09:57] <psst> I haven't used Vista (or ME, come to that)
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[11:10:42] <psst> NT was the sort of attitude I prefer - let's make something really solid.  And look how it paid off
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[11:11:16] <Skrylar> I'm a fan of the BSDs
[11:11:31] <Skrylar> If you want shiny stuff, install it on top. Otherwise here's a solid OS.
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[11:11:47] <Skrylar> Hi erik2
[11:11:48] <psst> yeah - but that's too easy.  I was trying to find an MS example
[11:11:52] <Skrylar> :P
[11:12:11] <psst> I could have said Mac OS X.
[11:12:28] <psst> or eclipse, come to that
[11:12:38] <Skrylar> Oh
[11:12:45] <Skrylar> I thought you were listing alternatives for ME still :S
[11:12:51] * Skrylar almost started defending OSX
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[11:13:13] <Skrylar> I don't like that they crippled dtrace and DRM'd up QuickTime.
[11:13:25] <Skrylar> But the OS, for the most part, is still solid.
[11:16:29] <patrin70> I am using the *.navigator.resources plugin in my RCP application to show resources available in the workspace
[11:17:13] <patrin70> is there a way to show error/warning decorators when a builder found problems on some of the resources in the project ?
[11:18:00] <patrin70> I use markers to send error/warning information to the problems view, but I don't know how to add a decorator to the resource where the problem has been found
[11:18:05] <patrin70> like the JDT does
[11:18:36] <patrin70> I noticed that adding all the plugin to my RCP application, the maker appears
[11:18:54] <patrin70> so I'm wandering if I'm missing some plugin which is able to provide this feature
[11:19:14] <patrin70> can you give me some hint ?
[11:19:17] <patrin70> thanks a lot
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[11:21:37] <Skrylar> Grrr.
[11:21:45] <Skrylar> It says eclipse is now using 170mb ._.
[11:24:13] <Icchan^> ijuma: tried, no change.
[11:24:40] <Icchan^> i think it's a bug. and i hope to find a workaround
[11:24:57] <Icchan^> unless i can run eclipse from usb memory
[11:25:31] <Icchan^> i could install the latest to my usb drive and that would solve my propblem
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[11:26:26] <ijuma> Icchan^: i think eclipse should run fine in a usb drive
[11:26:43] <ijuma> you don't really install it, just extract it on a given directory
[11:27:06] <Icchan^> that would solve my propblems
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[11:54:28] <Icchan^> does eclipse need a java jdk to the usb drive?
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[12:01:57] <ijuma> Icchan^: it needs a JRE somewhere, does not need to be in the usb drive
[12:02:30] <Icchan^> doesn't find it from this computer tough.
[12:07:48] <ijuma> Icchan^: -vm /path/to/java
[12:08:03] <ijuma> the path is to the executable
[12:11:00] <Icchan^> hold on now... im confused :D
[12:11:16] <Icchan^> i get eclipse, it's a zip file so i extract it to my usb drive.
[12:11:26] <Icchan^> then i do what? :D
[12:12:06] <nitind> You run it and use the -vm switch to point it at the actual JVM executable you want to use.
[12:13:23] <Icchan^> eclipse.exe -vm path/to/java
[12:13:42] <nitind> Yes, or javaw.exe if you prefer.
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[12:16:58] <Icchan^> hmmh
[12:17:25] <Icchan^> "The eclipse executable launcher was unable to locate its companion shared library."
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[13:22:21] <rcjsuen> patrin70: I would've thought that creating IMarkers on the resource would've triggered this already.
[13:22:54] <patrin70> yes it does, but only when I add all the plugins to my RCP app
[13:23:18] <patrin70> so maybe there is some plugin that contributes this behavior
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[13:48:06] <Skrylar> baaah MS is a bunch of idiots
[13:48:25] <Skrylar> IE8 is 'standards compliant' but defaults to broken mode unless you use a special tag.
[13:48:31] <Skrylar> idiocy <_<
[13:48:57] <ijuma> backwards compatibility
[13:49:25] <ijuma> whether that is synonym with idiocy, that is up for discussion ;)
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[13:50:45] <buggs> how do i get a IWorkbenchWindow when i have a composite?
[13:51:26] <buggs> Is there picture of the interlinked objects (UML or whatever)?
[13:52:22] <rcjsuen> buggs: an SWT Composite knows nothing about an IWorkbenchWindow
[13:52:31] <rcjsuen> buggs: What are you trying to do? What class are you in?
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[13:57:20] <buggs> a class that makes a Tree and got a Composite parent, makes an Action needing IworkbenchWindow
[13:58:04] <buggs> but i see, i need to pass the Site
[13:58:38] <rcjsuen> buggs: What class are you in? What class / interface are you extending / implementing?
[14:00:14] <buggs> ViewPart MyView; MyTreeProvider; Action MyAction
[14:00:28] <rcjsuen> buggs: just use getSite() or getViewSite() then
[14:00:35] <rcjsuen> getSite().getPage()
[14:01:10] <buggs> yea in MyView but i only passed Composite parent to MyTreeProvider
[14:01:21] <buggs> think i pass the MyView
[14:01:43] <buggs> Sometimes i get a bit lost in Objectgraph ;)
[14:02:45] <rcjsuen> If I have a Table with two columns and I want their widths to be a ratio like 50/50 or 40/60, how should I achieve this? In the past I've always just called TableColumn's setWidth(int) method.
[14:03:27] <nikomatsakis> Hello all, I have a question about ASTRewrite.  I am trying write an eclipse preprocessing plug-in which propagates rewrites if/else-if chains when the conditions are statically known to be true or false.  My plug-in seems to work great for a single level, but has trouble with nested ifs.  I am wondering if there is a trick to using ASTRewrite in the case where you want to make some changes to a set of nodes, and then make a copy of the changed ver
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[14:03:56] <nikomatsakis> oops, s/propagates rewrites/rewrites/
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[14:12:10] <nikomatsakis> a related question is: if one is editing an AST directly, and not with the ASTRewrite protocol, is there an easy way to replace a node with something else?  i.e., the only way I can see to do it is to go to the node's parent, find which field it uses to reference the original node, and call the approprate setXyz() function...
[14:12:21] <nikomatsakis> as opposed to the convenience of ASTRewrite.replace()
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[14:28:12] <ScarFreewill> is it possable to make a SWT tree rightclickable?
[14:28:27] <mhaller> ScarFreewill: you mean a popup menu?
[14:28:32] <ScarFreewill> yes
[14:28:39] <Skrylar> should be
[14:28:53] <mhaller> yes, it's possible of course
[14:29:00] <ScarFreewill> and images in the tree?
[14:29:14] <ScarFreewill> like before or after the name.
[14:29:34] <Skrylar> Doesn't Eclipse and Azureus do that?
[14:29:38] <mhaller> before the name is possible. only one icon per line afaik
[14:29:46] <Skrylar> I think it's a setting
[14:29:53] <ScarFreewill> Skrylar I don't know if they use swt tree..
[14:30:07] <mhaller> http://www.eclipse.org/swt/snippets/
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[14:30:19] <ScarFreewill> thanks a lot
[14:31:41] <merdaccia> hi folks. do you know if the eclipse formatter can be told NOT to concatenate two consecutive lines when they can fit into one?
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[14:32:57] <merdaccia> basically we're using code that supports method chaining (Hibernate, Easymock, etc), and it' makes code much cleaner to write mock.methodOne() \n .methodTwo() \n .methodThree()
[14:33:18] <merdaccia> but the formatter's concatenating everything into one line
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[14:48:39] <buggs> rcjsuen, what happened to setWidth()?
[14:48:54] <rcjsuen> buggs: nothing happened to it, I just don't want to use it
[14:49:22] <buggs> you mean, you want something like layouter?
[14:49:53] * rcjsuen shrugs.
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[14:52:52] <moya> i'd this error:  WST Common UI (2.0.1.v200709110622-7C5EH2E9RvTVnijrspVz0bgOmfz-) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.core.runtime.compatibility (3.1.100)", or equivalent.
[14:53:10] <nikomatsakis> for posterity's sake ;), and in answer to my own question from earlier, you can write a generic replacement function on the JDT using structural properties...
[14:53:11] <moya> where can I find the requested compatibility module?
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[14:54:32] <rcjsuen> moya: Where did you get Eclipse?
[14:56:07] <moya> www.eclipse.org
[14:56:23] <moya> i downloaded ganymede, the most basic things
[14:56:32] <moya> the began to add thins via the update manager
[14:56:38] <moya> s/the/then/
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[14:56:54] <moya> s/thins/things/ :)
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[14:58:48] <rcjsuen> downloaded Ganymede?
[14:59:00] <rcjsuen> moya: What did you download, and where?
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[15:00:14] <moya> downloaded this eclipse-platform-3.4M4-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[15:00:21] <moya> from eclipse.org
[15:00:53] <moya> everything besides that has been installed via update manager
[15:01:23] <moya> eclipse-platform-3.4M4-linux-gtk.tar.gz is a 39 MB file
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[15:08:09] <rcjsuen> I would've expected the runtime compat plug-in to be included, but I could be wrong.
[15:08:28] <rcjsuen> moya: you might want to use the 3.3.1.1 build instead
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[15:12:08] <moya> rcjsuen: is that droppable in my current instalation?
[15:12:20] <rcjsuen> Not exactly.
[15:12:35] <ijuma> funny that it still requires compatibility, but the date looks a bit suspicious. I'd have thought M4 build would be more recent than 20070911
[15:12:36] <rcjsuen> When you extract Eclipse you should always extract it in a fresh folder.
[15:12:47] <rcjsuen> ijuma: agreed
[15:13:12] * ijuma is waiting for M5 to jump on the ganymede bandawagon
[15:14:02] <moya> ijuma: how long for 3.4M5 ?
[15:15:13] <ijuma> moya: soon, http://wiki.eclipse.org/Ganymede#Milestones_and_Release_Candidates
[15:15:29] <rcjsuen> moya: M5 for the Eclipse platform is old news, M5 Ganymede is a different story, see the above link.
[15:15:38] <ijuma> public access Feb 26, but you can get many of the packages already
[15:16:04] <moya> rcjsuen: is it difficult to find a org.eclipse.core.runtime.compatibility 3.1.100 jar in eclipse.org so I can drop it in my plugins/ folder?
[15:16:41] <rcjsuen> moya: It'll be difficult to find it on the website itself, I wouldn't recommend performing the act even if you could.
[15:16:48] <rcjsuen> (if not impossible to find it on the website)
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[15:18:36] <NetEffect> hi
[15:20:19] <NetEffect> im creating a new project, im at the screen "New Dynamic Web Project" and it's asking "JSF CAPABILITIES - Add JSF capabilties to this Web Project"...  For componenet libraries, what do i put?
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[15:32:18] <NetEffect> this is what i get when i try to run a jps or jsf page, http://paste.uni.cc/18366      what do i need to install?
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[15:37:28] <joab> I'm installing the SWT standalone library and am just wondering where to put the src files so eclipse will pick up the method declarations and such.
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[15:52:03] <joab> Does anyone know?
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[16:02:04] <NetEffect> i have servlet-api.jar in my tomcat 6 lib folder
[16:02:09] <NetEffect> i am still getting that error
[16:03:23] <rcjsuen> joab: You could possibly import the project into your workspace.
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[16:08:20] <buratino> hi@all
[16:08:34] <buratino> i need some help concerning the eclipse debugger
[16:09:37] <joab> Is there some problem with SWT on the mac? I'm getting a segfault for the Hello World snippet that I found on SWT homepage.
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[16:11:00] <buratino> actually i have no idea, but its nice that somebody else is talking in this channel ;)
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[16:14:30] <buratino> could somebody talk to me please?
[16:15:16] <ijuma> ~ask
[16:15:17] <KOS-MOS> If you have a question, just ask, don't ask if you can ask a question.
[16:15:33] <buratino> alrighty ;)
[16:15:52] <buratino> i use the eclipse debugger in a projec that uses also jaxb
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[16:16:38] <buratino> everytime i start the debugger it stops inside of Class.getDeclaredMethod...
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[16:17:05] <buratino> its the first time i see this behaviour 10 mins ago everthing works fine
[16:17:15] <buratino> i cant use the debugger anymore
[16:17:26] <buratino> lots of weird talking
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[16:17:35] <buratino> does anyone know what i mean?
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[16:18:16] <buratino> i guess its a problem with the step filter, but i tried all possible combinations without a result
[16:18:29] <rarstar> hey all - i have a quick (n00b) question... i can drag my .py files from windows explorer, onto the eclipse workspace and it works fine... but how do i set it up so when i double click a .py file, it opens in the current open editor? at the mo it tries to open a new instance of eclipse
[16:18:58] <rcjsuen> rarstar: What you want is not possible
[16:19:52] <rarstar> ah, i had textpad setup this way - thought it might be possible in eclipse... ok thanks anyway
[16:20:19] <buratino> how do i tell the debugger that he steps only into my own files?
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[16:21:12] <rcjsuen> buratino: Check your step filters (assuming you're talking about Java).
[16:21:23] <rcjsuen> Not sure if you can exactly say "only physical files in workspace" though.
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[16:21:42] <JanDiederich> zx: ping
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[16:21:55] <buratino> i already tried the step filters, and yes im using Java
[16:22:23] <rcjsuen> buratino: It stops there and then what happens
[16:22:32] <rcjsuen> It's possible that that method is throwing an exception.
[16:22:41] <buratino> it just stops there
[16:22:44] <rcjsuen> And you have (turned on) exception breakpoints (by mistake).
[16:22:44] <SKuhn> hi, why is the font disposed if I create it like that? "this.treeFont=new Font(Display.getDefault(),JFaceResources.getDefaultFont().getFontData()[0]);"
[16:22:57] <buratino> when i do the next step it stops again
[16:23:15] <buratino> wait a sec
[16:23:23] <rcjsuen> Did you filter out java.lang?
[16:23:55] <JanDiederich> pookzilla: ping
[16:25:01] <buratino> i have suspend on uncaught exception, on compilation error, suspend for breakpoints during evaluation activated
[16:25:23] <SKuhn> rcjsuen: do you know why my Font is disposed before I can use it? :)
[16:25:26] <rcjsuen> You should try taking off the uncaught exception
[16:25:41] <rcjsuen> SKuhn: Not really, I don't have much experience with Font objects.
[16:26:11] <SKuhn> rcjsuen: it's my first font - I just want to change the height
[16:26:17] <SKuhn> of the default font
[16:27:27] <buratino> everything in the area Suspend Execution is deactivated
[16:27:32] <buratino> same problem
[16:27:41] <Pookzilla> JanDiederich: pong
[16:27:48] <JanDiederich> pookzilla: Hi
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[16:27:57] <buratino> the stepfiltering is deactivated too
[16:28:00] <NetEffect> http://paste.uni.cc/18368 what is this error mean?
[16:28:19] <JanDiederich> pookzilla: I have a question because of Bug https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=214210
[16:29:42] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: I want to read into a local registry Views, Editors, etc. But for that I have to modify all of UI Registries, ViewRegistry, EditorRegistry, and let them use the given ExtensionRegistry (my local Registry)
[16:30:10] <Pookzilla> mmmm okay...
[16:30:47] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: So, should I bring in a 2nd patch for that, like: "Patch to use an arbitrary ExtensionRegistry for UI Registries" ?
[16:31:01] <Pookzilla> can I ask why you're doing that?
[16:31:14] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: And put my original enhancement into incubator
[16:31:21] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: Yes.
[16:32:22] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: I want to have an live "real-time" overview of which activities target to which ui elements. Using the UI infrastructure.
[16:32:26] <Pookzilla> using a different registry will be problematic I wager...
[16:33:14] <Pookzilla> you'll need to propagate changes from the real registry to yours
[16:33:17] <rcjsuen> buratino: Do you get the same behaviour in a different workspace? Probably not.
[16:33:50] <zx> pong?
[16:33:54] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: No I only want to read the local registry, I don't even have to listen it
[16:34:09] <JanDiederich> zx: it's already OK
[16:34:22] <buratino> rcjsuen: i get the same behaviour in differnet projects
[16:34:35] <buratino> but only when im using JAXB ?!?
[16:35:19] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: I mean: If you really use the arbitrary regular expressions, like "my.views.[^x]" or whatever, that may point to hundreds of views.
[16:35:20] <rcjsuen> buratino: Did you try on a different workspace?
[16:35:29] <Pookzilla> JanDiederich: but bundles may come and go through the lifecycle of the application,a long with extensions...those will be propagated to the real registry and all listeners (such as the UI) but if you use another registry for the uI you'll need to make sure the two registries are always in sync
[16:36:39] <buratino> currently i have only one workspace
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[16:36:57] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: No, I tought of a cheaper solution: The Activity --> ActivityPatternBinding --> UI Targets Preview shows you the "just now state" of all your plugin.xml's you're editing, and if you want to see your changes, click on "update"
[16:37:39] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: Maybe I'm wrong, but I imagine that as an already satisfying solution. What do you think?
[16:37:48] <Pookzilla> I think we're talking to different problems.  Okay... so let's back up.  The bug you sent is about making a UI to help write activities right?
[16:38:26] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: Yes. Especially the ActivityPatternBindings. You want to see which of your activities target (through your patterns) to which UI elements
[16:39:05] <buratino> rcjsuen: i just opened a new workspace and copy my project into it
[16:39:15] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: Regular Expressions can be painful complicated. But very usefull. So you want to see what you "hit".
[16:39:21] <Pookzilla> okay, before you go any further, are you aware of the work that Chrix, Paul, and Remy have done to add identifier info to the standard extension editor?
[16:39:46] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: No?! Where do I find it?
[16:40:09] <NetEffect> i am making a new project in eclipse, i'm at the JSF Capabilities screen...  do i want "server supplied jsf implentation"  or do i want jsf, and Moharra is not listed, it just says jsf
[16:40:14] <Pookzilla> JanDiederich: http://mea-bloga.blogspot.com/2008/02/cooking-in-pde-kitchen.html
[16:40:19] <rcjsuen> ~tell JanDiederich about 181515
[16:40:21] <KOS-MOS> JanDiederich: Bug 181515 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=181515 - PDE / UI / 3.3 - All / All - RESOLVED / FIXED / enhancement / - Assignee:zx at us dot ibm.com - Provide more structure, safety, and convenience for ID-based references between extension points (id hell)
[16:40:30] <Pookzilla> look at all that stuff and the associated bugs before you do any more work on that problem...
[16:41:41] <zx> Pookzilla: you like? ;)?
[16:42:18] <Pookzilla> zx: yah, that's killer
[16:42:37] <zx> Pookzilla: it needs colored labels and I'll be happy with it ;)
[16:42:49] <Pookzilla> the one step from that I'd like to see is the ability for plug in developers to plug in their own field types and choosers
[16:43:03] <Pookzilla> with your new identifier one being just one type
[16:43:12] <Pookzilla> ie: I could add a color or font picker to the themes point
[16:43:24] <Pookzilla> or jan could add a regex generator for the activities
[16:43:25] <Pookzilla> etch
[16:43:28] <Pookzilla> er
[16:43:28] <Pookzilla> etc
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[16:43:32] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: that looks great! But is that really comparable to my problem? It's activity ID -> pattern ID -> pattern -> Multiple IDs
[16:44:23] <NetEffect> hi
[16:44:24] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: OK, better activity ID -> (pattern ID, pattern) -> Multiple IDs
[16:44:29] <Pookzilla> JanDiederich: it's similar.  in fact, it's one of the generalities of the sort I just mentioned
[16:44:44] <NetEffect> i am messed up with eclipse, i can't get my tomcat 6.0 to deploy and show a web page
[16:44:54] <NetEffect> i get errors like http://paste.uni.cc/18368
[16:44:59] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: Oh, yes: "or jan could add a regex generator for the activities"
[16:45:04] <NetEffect> should i uninstall something like tomcat 6.0?  and
[16:45:09] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: :-)    Looks nice
[16:45:24] <NetEffect> anything recommend?
[16:45:53] <Pookzilla> JanDiederich: if I were to approach your problem I would do it in such a way as to make what they've done general and then supply an activities specific one on top of it...
[16:47:13] <buratino> rcjsuen: it works fine in the new workspace
[16:47:32] <rcjsuen> buratino: So some setting must've bee nchanged.
[16:47:40] <buratino> i checked the debugging options and they are the same
[16:47:47] <NetEffect> under window->preferences->web and xml->javaserver faces tools->edit jsf library, i should have my jsf library, right?  jsf-api.jar, jsf-iimpl.jar, and jstl-1.1.2.jar right, is that right?
[16:48:35] <NetEffect> that name isn't filled, nor the version, like it doesn't know it
[16:48:54] <rcjsuen> *shrugs* Well, something has to be different.
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[16:49:45] <Pookzilla> JanDiederich zx does that sound good to you guys?
[16:50:28] <JanDiederich> Pookzilla: Sure :-)
[16:51:15] <buratino> rcjsuen: back in the old workspace the problem is still there, although i restored the defaults
[16:52:45] <zx> ya, whatever floats your boat on that
[16:52:56] <zx> Pookzilla: pluggable types sounds interesting, not sure if there's a bug open on that
[16:53:00] <zx> maybe
[16:53:03] * zx digs
[16:54:34] <NetEffect> when i go to install tomcat in eclipse, i have two dirs, Apache Tomcat 6.0.14 and Tomcat 6.0.  i wonder which one i want
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[16:58:22] <NetEffect> shit im wasting time on this :(
[16:58:36] <NetEffect> should i just delete all the eclipse stuff and download it again?
[16:58:50] <buratino> where saves eclipse the preferences in the filesystem
[16:59:38] <rcjsuen> buratino: most of them are going to be in .metadata/.plugins
[16:59:49] <paulweb515> buratino: for global preferences, usually under <workspace>/.metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.core.runtime
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[16:59:56] <rcjsuen> buratino: What you want is probably .metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.core.runtime/.settings/*.prefs
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[17:06:57] <buratino> rcjsuen: .metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.debug.core.runtime/ contains some stuff, that could be helpful i just restarted eclipse
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[17:07:44] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure if that folder is going to help since those are just general debugger settings.
[17:10:25] <buratino> rcjsuen: thats right and it didnt work anyway
[17:10:59] <rcjsuen> You should look at the folder paulweb515 and I mentioned or look in /.plugins/org.eclipse.jdt*
[17:11:15] <NetEffect> Could not publish server configuration for Tomcat v6.0 Server at localhost.          Multiple Contexts have a path of "/web1"           what does this error mean?
[17:15:29] <NetEffect> hmm, multiple contexts
[17:15:32] <NetEffect> dunno what that means
[17:15:34] <buratino> rcjsuen: theres nothing to find :(
[17:16:18] <rcjsuen> buratino: What are you talking about, I see files like org.eclipse.jdt.launching.prefs and org.eclipse.jdt.debug.ui.prefs in .metadata/.plugins/org.eclipse.core.runtime/.settings.
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[17:17:57] <buratino> rcjsuen: yes, but even if i deleted all of them it didnt help :(
[17:18:14] <rcjsuen> Then there was something to find, it was just incorrect ;p
[17:18:20] <buratino> rcjsuen: so i didnt find anything helpful ;)
[17:18:28] <rcjsuen> buratino: You deleted them while you had Eclipse closed right
[17:18:43] <buratino> rcjsuen: yes
[17:18:50] <rcjsuen> When push comes to shove, you could always just work from your new workspace.
[17:19:15] <buratino> and all my nice customized stuff is gone :(
[17:19:32] <buratino> i guess i have no other solution for now :(
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[17:21:04] <rcjsuen> buratino: what did you customize?
[17:21:08] <rcjsuen> buratino: just copy those files over
[17:21:50] <buratino> rcjsuen: thats a good idea
[17:22:05] <buratino> i just setup a new workspace
[17:22:15] <buratino> and import all the projects
[17:22:37] <NetEffect> i need an alogithm to remove cat from keyboard
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[17:24:59] <NetEffect> in the console window of eclipse i see java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: javax.faces.webapp.FacesServlet when i try to run a webpage, what do i do?
[17:25:16] <NetEffect> that must mean that tomcat cannot find that class right?
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[17:37:15] <nikomatsakis> hello, does anyone know if it is possible to execute the "Organize Imports" command on an IJavaProject programmatically (i.e., from within my plugin)?  Thanks in advance for any tips.
[17:37:51] <rcjsuen> Probably, it'd be a matter of finding the code in question.
[17:38:51] <nikomatsakis> I guess I should say, I assume it is possible, but I don't really have any idea how to start looking for the method to call.  I guess it might be found in one of the core eclipse plug-ins?
[17:39:41] <rcjsuen> nikomatsakis: Why don't you look at org.eclipse.jdt.ui.actions.OrganizeImportsAction
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[17:39:55] <nikomatsakis> rcjsuen: cool, thanks!
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[18:24:54] <yassine> hi everyone, im not sure if this is only my case or its a generally known issue why is the update manager too slow?
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[19:21:48] <giusef> hello
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[19:23:03] <giusef> Can Eclipse print (on a printer) source code a) highlighted and b) formatted on multiple columns (i.e. 2) ?
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[19:31:30] <alsadk> if i don't have a 512MB of ram did u think that easyeclipse distro maybe work?
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[19:32:36] <dominikg> giusef, on windows i can access the native printer perferences, which include printing multiple pages on one sheet of paper.
[19:32:45] <Nilbus> how do you save a workspace on demand? other thane quitting eclipse
[19:33:07] <dominikg> *using file->print...
[19:33:14] <paulweb515> Nilbus: what part of the workspace?  CTRL+SHIFT+S will save all dirty parts
[19:33:40] <Nilbus> like what windows I have open, the perspective, etc
[19:33:45] <Nilbus> dirty?
[19:34:01] <giusef> dominikg, but does eclipse highlight GTK code?
[19:34:44] <dominikg> Nilbus: window: save perspective as
[19:34:47] <alsadk> did i need exactly a 512MB  of ram (min)
[19:34:50] <alsadk> ?
[19:35:10] <Nilbus> dominikg, not the perspective, the workspace
[19:35:10] <dominikg> giusef if there is a gtk plugin, maybe.
[19:35:15] <dominikg> ~searchplugins gtk
[19:35:15] <KOS-MOS> Try searching for plug-ins: http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/modules.php?name=search&action=search&q=gtk - http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/search.jsp?query=gtk
[19:35:43] <rcjsuen_> Nilbus: Not possible.
[19:35:47] <Nilbus> ok
[19:35:48] <alsadk> !requirment
[19:36:03] <rcjsuen_> Nilbus: http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/09/how-to-save-eclipse-ui-workbench-state_6644.html enjoy
[19:36:23] <Nilbus> I run multiple instances of ecilpse for different projects. If I add a project in one instance, close eclipse, then close the old instance, it saves the old instance's workspace without the project added, and I lose it, forcing me to import the project again
[19:36:31] <rcjsuen_> alsadk: I used to use Eclipse on 512 ram, was alright I s'pose.
[19:36:52] <dominikg> alsadk, theres only one way to find out. eclipse can be run with less than 512mb for sure... but if you only have 256 and your os/other apps take their share aswell, you might get a bit unhappy
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[19:36:54] <alsadk> i have 128 plus 64
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[19:39:58] <Nilbus> rcjsuen_, thanks
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[19:40:33] <alsadk> is it ok with 128 plus 64 of MB of ram?
[19:42:32] <rcjsuen_> alsadk: You'd probably struggle...a lot.
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[19:43:37] <alsadk> did u think it maybe will be just slow or more than that?
[19:44:20] <rcjsuen_> alsadk: Why don't you try and find out
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[19:47:23] <alsadk> how to compile easyeclipse on ubuntu?
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[19:48:34] <rcjsuen_> I don't think you compile anything.
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[19:49:23] <alsadk> what i must do then?
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[19:50:14] <rcjsuen> just extract and go I guess?
[19:50:16] <rcjsuen> pombreda?
[19:50:48] <alsadk> i don't think so there is no package
[19:50:51] <alsadk> !!
[19:50:56] <rcjsuen> Eh?
[19:51:09] <rcjsuen> http://www.easyeclipse.org/site/distributions/index.html
[19:51:10] <alsadk> whats Eh?
[19:51:17] <rcjsuen> I see a listing of Linux downloads with the Tux icon all over the place.
[19:51:25] <alsadk> ok
[19:51:26] <rcjsuen> Windows / Mac / Linux, all three are there.
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[19:51:47] <alsadk> yes but i think its source i downloadit
[19:52:07] <rcjsuen> alsadk: What do you see in the folder?
[19:52:19] <rcjsuen> Or I should say, what is i nthe tarball?
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[19:53:36] <dominikg> alsadk, shouldn't you use something like dsl or xubuntu on a box with resources as tight as 192mb ram?
[19:53:41] <alsadk> files and folders
[19:54:18] <alsadk> i have ubuntu but no dsl or xubuntu
[19:54:29] <rcjsuen> alsadk: Well,  yes, I would expect there to be file and folders.
[19:54:32] <alsadk> it ojk with ubuntu
[19:54:37] <rcjsuen> Do you see an eclipse file?
[19:54:54] <alsadk> with name eclipse?
[19:54:55] <rcjsuen> Did you try invoking ./eclipse?
[19:55:00] <rcjsuen> Yes
[19:55:03] <alsadk> yes
[19:55:06] <alsadk> file
[19:55:09] <rcjsuen> And?
[19:55:12] <rcjsuen> Did you try invoking ./eclipse?
[19:55:31] <rcjsuen> Or double-clicking on it, if you're in Nautilus (or Konqueror, or whatever).
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[19:59:00] <alsadk> an error occured while extracting files
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[20:00:06] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[20:00:13] <rcjsuen> You could try downloading the file again or something.
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[20:02:46] <alsadk> i do not have an enough space give the introduction to compile
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[20:04:27] <karltk> My bundle activator is called LPGRuntimePlugin; it subclasses AbstractUIPlugin. Inside start(), I call PlatformUI.getWorkbench(), and get an IllegalStateException stating that the Workbench hasn't been created yet. I suppose I'm making a poor assumption about the order of initialization here?
[20:05:19] <theknownunsoldie> I'm receiving this error when trying to execute some code in the scrapbook: Unable to connect to VM details: com.sun.jdi.TransportTimeoutException
[20:05:35] <theknownunsoldie> I can't find anything related to the details in google
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[20:07:01] <alsadk> thx
[20:07:05] <theknownunsoldie> The version of eclipse is the latest...
[20:07:07] <rcjsuen> karltk: That does sound a little odd (though I admit I haven't created many activators that accessed the workbench in start(BundleContext)). What are you trying to do?
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[20:08:00] <paulweb515> karltk: it depends on what activates your plugin, but it is possible to be activated before the workbench has been fully initialized
[20:08:01] <karltk> rcjsuen: trying to port the Eclipse IMP to 3.3... (it only works for 3.2)
[20:08:20] <rcjsuen> karltk: IMP, that IDE project?
[20:08:25] <karltk> rcjsuen: yup
[20:08:30] <rcjsuen> ah
[20:08:34] <karltk> paulweb515: thx.
[20:08:35] <paulweb515> karltk: if you do a Thread.dumpStack() you'll know what is asking you to activate
[20:08:37] <rcjsuen> karltk: are they calling internal code? o.O
[20:08:46] * karltk goes back to the drawing board
[20:08:52] <paulweb515> karltk: you can pastebin if you'd like us to  have a look
[20:09:30] <karltk> paulweb515: let me first figure out a didactical strategy here... I need to wrap my head around the init sequence myself fully.
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[20:10:27] <paulweb515> karltk: some patterns you can use use 1) delay some of your startup processing until some code requests it (like allowing getMyManager() to initialize the manager) or 2) create a Job or UIJob and schedule it for later to do your processing
[20:10:34] <slango> is there a way to make Eclipse open without opening any projects?
[20:11:07] <karltk> rcjsuen: there's a "global" language registry maintained by one plugin, and all other plugins will register their language support in this one. the registry plugin apparently needs to get at the internal eclipse UI editor registry...
[20:11:18] <paulweb515> slango: the eclipse SDK?  The projects are open or closed depending on how you left them
[20:11:19] <rcjsuen> slango: Always start Eclipse with all projects closed? Doubt it.
[20:11:40] <slango> rcjsuen, not always, just in a particular instance
[20:11:46] <rcjsuen> UIJob sounds like a reasonable workaround.
[20:11:48] <karltk> paulweb515: those were the main strategies I wanted to try out -- I just have to figure out if I can get away with (1) :)
[20:11:53] <rcjsuen> slango: Well, sure, but, in this regard, same thing ;p
[20:11:56] <slango> I had two Android projects open, and it was WAY too slow
[20:12:53] <paulweb515> slango: close them before you exit?
[20:13:43] <slango> paulweb515, yeah, my trouble was just getting eclipse to start up in this instance
[20:13:48] <slango> it seems the solution is: wait
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[20:20:02] <ecfuser81562> hi all
[20:20:22] <rcjsuen> ecfuser81562: Hi
[20:20:48] <rawble1> howdy
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[20:21:54] <rawble1> god damn
[20:22:04] <ecfuser81562> sorry for my nick but it is the first time here with eclipse as client
[20:22:19] <rawble1> ecfuser81562: your nick isn't a problem... tab completion is awesome ;)
[20:23:29] <ecfuser81562> rawble1: cool nice feature
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[20:31:14] <jtong> anyone know how a change event is propagated to all the views in eclipse?
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[20:32:44] <nitind> jtong: Look at the org.eclipse.ui.ISelectionService, http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-WorkbenchSelections/article.html
[20:32:55] <jtong> nitind: thanks!!
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[20:58:37] <kaje1> is there a CDT specific channel?
[21:01:10] <zx|cafe> nope, there is a CDT newsgroup though
[21:02:23] <kaje1> If I have an existing (non-eclipse) C++ in CVS and I want to bring it into Eclipse to work on, what kind of project should I create? I want to keep using the makefiles that exist in the current project...
[21:04:37] <zx|cafe> I'd assume a standard make project, but I'd probably check the newsgroups if anyone has worked on a similar issue
[21:04:41] <zx|cafe> not sure how many CDT experts lurk here ;)
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[21:39:51] <scorphus> I have a project that uses a lib which is inside a ZIP file. Then I export the project as a JAR file. When I run it it complains about the lack of that lib. How do I configure my project so the lib is included in the exported JAR file?
[21:39:58] <pombreda> rcjsuen: pong
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[21:41:11] <nitind> scorphus: Pull it out of the zip file.
[21:42:15] <scorphus> nitind: ok. then how do I configure the project's build path to use the new lib's location?
[21:44:40] <pombreda> scorphus: is that a plugin or regular java project?
[21:45:03] <scorphus> pombreda: hello chap, this is a regular java project
[21:45:23] <pombreda> scorphus: ok, you want to export a jar that contains another jar ?
[21:45:59] <pombreda> scorphus: the zip is in your project build path?
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[21:46:50] <scorphus> pombreda: it is a zip file containing come .class files, not a jar (the lib is printf for java, see: http://www.braju.com/)
[21:47:56] <scorphus> pombreda: the zip file is in the root of the project directory and referenced in the project build path
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[21:53:07] <pombreda> the zip is therefore a jar (and a jar is a zip anyway)
[21:53:39] <pombreda> so you have 2 options: 1/ put the zip in your run runtime classpath when you launch the exported jar
[21:53:56] <pombreda> 2/ use something like fatjar to export in one inlined jar
[21:55:19] <pombreda> http://easyeclipse.org/site/plugins/fatjar.html or http://easyeclipse.org/site/plugins/fatjar.html
[21:55:26] <pombreda> scorphus: hope that helps
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[21:56:00] <scorphus> pombreda: thanks a lot
[21:56:12] <scorphus> I'm looking into fatjar
[21:56:50] <rawblem> scorphus:  or learn how to just zip up java code into a library via the command line ;)
[21:57:26] <rawblem> you'll need a manifest file, and each of the class files will need to be where they belong in teh proper folders / packages inside the zip. You can't just take a bunch of class files and throw them into a zip file
[21:57:57] <scorphus> rawblem: the zip has a manifest file
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[22:33:32] <mwolf9> Does anyone know how to set focus on a widget in a WizardPage when that page apeears? There dosent seem to be a setFocus method i can override on the WizardPage object.
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[22:35:11] <rcjsuen> mwolf9: Not really possible, it grants focus to the Control that you set in setControl(Control)
[22:35:34] <rcjsuen> mwolf9: You could try overriding setVisible
[22:35:40] <rcjsuen> to call super first and then doing your own thing maybe
[22:36:05] <mwolf9> setVisible on the parent Composite or the widget?
[22:36:34] <rcjsuen> mwolf9: I mean override setVisible in your WizardPage subclass
[22:36:47] <mwolf9> ahh ok thanks
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[22:45:14] <rgould> is there some way to redirect standard input to read from a file in the debug/run application configurations?
[22:45:38] <rcjsuen> rgould: No.
[22:45:45] <rgould> :(
[22:45:57] <rcjsuen> at least, not for Java anyway
[22:46:03] <rgould> yeah, that's what I was hoping for
[22:46:05] <rgould> thanks
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[22:48:30] <rcjsuen> ~tell rgould about 155411
[22:48:31] <KOS-MOS> rgould: Bug 155411 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=155411 - Platform / Debug / 3.2 - PC / Windows XP - ASSIGNED / enhancement / - Assignee:platform-debug-inbox at eclipse dot org - [launching] Need a way to assign stdin to a file from Run Dialog
[22:49:17] <rgould> thanks
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[23:22:16] <rawblem> anyone know where the .log file is for the runtime workbench? when debugging a plugin?
[23:22:22] <moya> the update manager is not caching anything, is any sort of tweaking needed?
[23:25:08] <rcjsuen> rawblem: It's in the usual place wherever your target workspace is...?
[23:25:09] <rawblem> nevermind... found it =]
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[23:50:50] <noah> will the web tools platform thing work with tomcat 6, if i choose 5.5 from the list and browse to where i have 6?
[23:51:49] <noah> maybe a better question is, can i debug tomcat 6 inside tomcat?
[23:52:00] <noah> debug webapps in tomcat 6 that is
[23:56:57] <dominikg> noah, why don't you chose tomcat6 in wtp?
[23:58:44] <dominikg> i've got eclipse 3.3 + wtp here and i can chose tomcat6 as an option in preferences->server->installed runtimes
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