[00:00:02] <rcjsuen> Joeseph: http://www.fabioz.com/pydev/manual_101_root.html
[00:00:11] <rcjsuen> Joeseph: http://pydev.sourceforge.net/faq.html#how_do_i_configure_pydev_to_use_jython
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[00:04:03] <Joeseph> rcjsuen: Thanks: but to make sure I'm reading it right--- I must add jython to my python classpath?
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[00:11:36] <rcjsuen> Joeseph: *shrugs*
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[00:26:36] <Mician> hi all
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[00:38:28] <rcjsuen> Mician: Hi
[00:40:01] <Mician> rcjsuen: thx for the help with annotation
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[00:52:32] <rcjsuen> np
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[01:00:52] <netaffect> i thought eclipse might inherit the classpath that is in dos
[01:01:01] <netaffect> but i have to specify it for my project?
[01:03:37] <netaffect> like there is this package i want
[01:03:50] <netaffect> it's d:/java/net/mindview/util/Print
[01:03:54] <netaffect> so what is the best way to use it?
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[01:05:50] <robinr> netaffect: the project properties, build path
[01:06:20] <netaffect> k checkin
[01:06:21] <netaffect> thx
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[01:21:21] <netaffect> hmmm
[01:23:15] <netaffect> like for instance, one of the utilities is declared...  package net.mindview.util;
[01:25:23] <netaffect> and then it says public class Print {
[01:25:34] <netaffect> do i create a package myself?  net.mindview.util ?
[01:25:41] <netaffect> and then how do i get those files in there?
[01:27:27] <netaffect> oh maybe i'd copy those files into the workspace?
[01:27:30] <netaffect> im not sure what to do
[01:29:52] <netaffect> aha got it :)
[01:29:53] <netaffect> neat
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[02:29:41] <Pluxxx> how do I set all my charset to UTF-8
[02:30:08] <Pluxxx> charset of all the files I create*
[02:30:15] <Pluxxx> and use..
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[02:33:56] <rcjsuen> You could try to change the workspace encoding.
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[03:19:54] <niklauz> is there a seperate channel for pydev? or is this good?
[03:24:53] <niklauz> i'm wondering if it's possible to get an interactive terminal w/i eclipse... anyone?
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[03:39:06] <rcjsuen> niklauz: Can't you bring up a Python interpreter?
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[03:41:03] <rcjsuen> I could've sworn that what you wanted was possible.
[03:41:14] <rcjsuen> You could also just create an 'External Tool' launch configuration that invoked python.
[03:59:59] <njbartlett> You can use the Console view interacively
[04:07:13] <niklauz> rcjsuen: hi, sorry i was afk
[04:08:26] <niklauz> the console isn't interactive, is that a setting... also how would i setup the external tool, as xterm?
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[04:10:09] <chuck> hi, if i want to use eclipse for mainly php development, which thing should i download?
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[04:31:38] <paulweb515_> chuck: PDT
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[05:14:35] <niklauz> found it! i added the /usr/bin/python as an external tool -- nice!
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[05:27:35] <niklauz> here's a question, is there a way to set eclipse to recognize certain comments, such as "#--" , as a prefix for a navigation bookmark?
[05:29:57] <niklauz> this would be something very similar to the TODO's auto-recognize ability
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[08:42:53] <mrynit> what does a white package icon mean?
[08:46:19] <mrynit> what does a clock icon mean?
[08:51:32] <mrynit> ?
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[09:22:10] <mrynit> what does a clock icon mean next to files in my project viewer?
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[09:23:06] <mrynit> hi riotz
[09:23:35] <riotz> hello!
[09:23:56] <mrynit> riotz: do you know what a clock icon on my project files mean?
[09:24:23] <riotz> uhm no sorry
[09:24:47] <mrynit> you never seen it?
[09:24:49] <riotz> just worked 2 months with eclipse now :/
[09:25:05] <riotz> i'm a stinky n00b!
[09:25:16] <mrynit> :(
[09:26:37] <mrynit> no one else here knows or will reply
[09:26:56] <riotz> where does the clock show up?
[09:27:25] <riotz> the regular eclipse icon changes to a clock?
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[09:42:28] <dominikg> mrynit, do you have a screenshot to show it?
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[09:57:03] <mrynit> dogmeat:
[09:57:06] <mrynit> dominikg:
[09:57:25] <mrynit> nvm i reverted to before it happened.
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[11:45:18] <shayan> Hello everybody , I have a problem with eclipse in linux can anyone help?
[11:45:32] <shayan> I can't run my C++ project inside it
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[12:00:19] <ChrisA_> morning
[12:01:58] <ChrisA_> is there a way to create several jar files from my project package tree automatically (eclipse 3.2.0)? thx in advance...
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[12:26:40] <dfas> anyone knows where I can read about the .project file ?
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[12:31:06] <wuseldusel> i downloaded and extracted eclipse to my home directory, started it and navigated to help -> software updates -> find and install <-- but there simply doesn't pop up anything. same with the manage configuration item ... what am i doing wrong?
[12:31:32] <wuseldusel> otherwise i'll stick with kate =)
[12:32:41] <dominikg> ~tell wuseldusel about logs
[12:32:41] <KOS-MOS> wuseldusel: Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[12:36:21] <wuseldusel> ~pastebin
[12:36:21] <KOS-MOS> please paste the relevant information to a pastebin and the paste the created url back in the channel - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca - http://www.nopaste.com/
[12:36:47] <wuseldusel> http://www.nopaste.com/p/aNFxqhAY6 <-- ok here's the log
[12:38:32] <wuseldusel> the version is R-3.3.1.1-200710231652/eclipse-SDK-3.3.1.1-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
[12:39:19] <dominikg> thats a 64bit version and you are runing it with gcj: java.fullversion=GNU libgcj 4.3.0 20080202 (experimental) [trunk revision 132072]
[12:39:57] <dominikg> gcj isn't a supported platform and there are some issues with it. try running it on a 64bit sun vm
[12:40:04] <dominikg> ~linux-install
[12:40:05] <KOS-MOS> Trying to install Eclipse on Linux? http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_install_Eclipse_on_Linux.3F
[12:40:11] <dominikg> ~gcj
[12:40:12] <KOS-MOS> GCJ is not officially supported by Eclipse as a Java runtime environment. Please talk with your distribution's packaging team and/or the GCJ team for assistance. To run Eclipse with a different JVM, see: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I_just_installed_Eclipse_on_Linux.2C_but_it_does_not_start._What_is_the_problem.3F
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[13:06:27] <rcjsuen> ChrisA_: several jar files automatically?
[13:06:33] <rcjsuen> ChrisA_: I think you're better off using Ant.
[13:06:49] <rcjsuen> dfas: Not really, what do you want to know, it's pretty straightforward
[13:06:53] <rcjsuen> nature is type, builder is builder
[13:07:31] <rcjsuen> dominikg: hello
[13:08:02] <dfas> rcjsuen: well, basically the <comment> tag on the .project, is there an editor to fill that in?
[13:08:17] <rcjsuen> Doubt it.
[13:09:06] <rcjsuen> dfas: That's in IProjectDescription's setComment(String) method.
[13:09:20] <rcjsuen> I recall there was a bug asking for this tho
[13:13:01] <rcjsuen> ~tell dfas about 80538
[13:13:02] <KOS-MOS> dfas: Bug 80538 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=80538 - Platform / IDE / 3.1 - All / All - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee:Tod_Creasey at ca dot ibm.com - [IDE] project description popup
[13:14:28] <rcjsuen> Might want to consider pinging them, since no one ever answered my question. ;)
[13:14:33] <wuseldusel> dominikg: thx it works now with sun jdk
[13:14:41] <rcjsuen> wuseldusel: Good to hear :)
[13:15:15] <dominikg> wuseldusel, glad i could help you. Have fun with eclipse :)
[13:15:20] <dominikg> Hi rcjsuen!
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[13:16:02] <rcjsuen> dominikg: You seem to be in a good mood today.
[13:18:08] <dominikg> i am (:
[13:18:27] <rcjsuen> ah, well then ;)
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[13:20:13] <dominikg> got my boss to pay for eclipse forum europe this week. Anyone here going aswell?
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[13:20:24] <rcjsuen> aaaaaaah :)
[13:20:42] <rcjsuen> dominikg: maybe Neil (njbartlett)?
[13:22:59] <dominikg> I've seen zx|work will talk about ecf (won't miss that one) and i'm looking forward to mik kerstens talks aswell.
[13:34:03] <rcjsuen> didn't know he was going to do an ecf talk
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[13:43:08] <rcjsuen> dominikg: How did you convince your boss?
[13:45:21] <dominikg> jax and soacon are also in the same conference center, that happens to be only 10km away. There are some talks on Technologies that are important for our development (web stuff) and the early bird + colleagues rebate did the rest
[13:46:15] <rcjsuen> ah ;)
[13:46:24] <dominikg> i would have paid myself if he didn't, but saving more than a grand is a plus. Will be a new laptop for me (:
[13:46:31] <rcjsuen> hehe
[13:48:17] <dominikg> btw. thanks for adding my name to the contributors list (tho it was only a small copy/paste/edit change).
[13:49:18] <rcjsuen> dominikg: Just keeping everyone happy. :)
[13:50:10] <dominikg> hehe. Hope someone keeps you happy aswell ;)
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[15:10:26] <_ergo_> hello
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[15:11:02] <_ergo_> im having trouble with eclipse on winxp 64bit , something happend, and now i cant create projects , the wizards dialog is not operational
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[15:14:20] <_ergo_> i removed workspace directory
[15:14:34] <_ergo_> and installed fresh eclipse and i still have same problem
[15:18:30] <erik2> I use eclipse to do web-stuff. I get an error message that I want to ignore in the furure. can I make eclipse forget about this error ?
[15:19:43] <erik2> _ergo_: I noticed on Linux, that some settings are kept elsewhere... search your disk...
[15:20:20] <erik2> _ergo_ maybe check registry ??
[15:20:34] <_ergo_> uhh.... ik
[15:20:35] <_ergo_> ok
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[15:22:23] <erik2> _ergo_: many programs change the registry, add things that stay after uninstall. registry develops into a real garbage can, in time...BUt maybe Eclipse keeps some settings elsewhere too...
[15:23:03] <_ergo_> it stores setting in user profile dir
[15:23:29] <erik2> _ergo_ in doc & settings ?
[15:24:04] <erik2> good candidate too.... i'd remove every reference to eclipse everywhere, after an uninstall... tehn reinstall
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[15:28:28] <_ergo_> did anyone had luck with 3.4M5 and PDT ?
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[15:28:46] <_ergo_> i have syntax coloring but no code completion
[15:29:20] <rcjsuen> _ergo_: not operational?
[15:29:59] <rcjsuen> _ergo_: I think you need to tweak on the php nature.
[15:30:04] <rcjsuen> _ergo_: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_manually_assign_a_project_Nature_or_BuildCommand.3F
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[15:30:32] <_ergo_> rcjsuen : i remember your hints about that nw project wizard problems with 64bit os
[15:30:47] <_ergo_> "something" happened and it stopped working again :-)
[15:30:56] <rcjsuen> ic
[15:31:14] <_ergo_> im not sure where to clean the system to have it operational
[15:31:33] <rcjsuen> Just delete the eclipse/ folder, reextract, and try again.
[15:31:38] <_ergo_> removed the 'workplace' dir frm my user profile, and installed fresh eclipse
[15:31:50] <_ergo_> nope that did not helped...
[15:31:51] <rcjsuen> If you're having problems on 3.4m5, i don't know then
[15:31:56] <rcjsuen> what do you mean "not operational"
[15:31:59] <_ergo_> im talking about 3.3
[15:32:02] <rcjsuen> can't click the dialog?
[15:32:07] <rcjsuen> well, 3.3 has problems
[15:32:10] <rcjsuen> i wouldn't use 3.3 with 64-bit
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[15:32:45] <_ergo_> well if i manage to have PDT fully working on 3.4M5 im ok
[15:35:13] <_ergo_> but i think that PDT is not updated for latest 3.4
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[15:54:18] <philk__> hi! I wonder how I can change the properties of a service if I do not have the ServiceRegistration at hand. I think its not possible for security reasons?
[15:54:46] <philk__> Also I wonder how I can get the previous set of properties from the service and change only one property
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[16:16:42] <paulweb515_> philk__: for confirmation I would ask on the eclipse.technology.equinox newsgroup - http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/
[16:17:08] <paulweb515_> philk__: but I don't think you can.  When you publish the service you are publishing those properties to aid in lookup, right?
[16:21:06] <philk__> paulweb515_: thats right, the properties are use for filtering
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[16:21:37] <philk__> paulweb515_: and I would like to increment a "usage" counter on the service during runtime
[16:22:15] <philk__> I will ask in the newsgroup.... and also if I have to ungetService a service that I getService'd
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[16:26:59] <patrin70> hi all
[16:27:45] <patrin70> whan I export my RCP product using the product export wizard (RCP FALL Edition) I get an error related to a missing JUnit plugin
[16:28:03] <patrin70> how can I avoid to ship also this plugin with my application ?
[16:28:27] <patrin70> the exported product works fine if I copy manually the JUnit plugin in the plugins directory
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[16:29:29] <paulweb515_> patrin70: On of your plugins must "require" it, is that it?
[16:29:32] <patrin70> I would avoid to ship also development plugins with the product
[16:29:49] <patrin70> Hi Paul
[16:29:53] <philk__> hmmm... A fragment always belongs to a bundle, right? So when the OSGi console prints out the bundles using the service it will never print the fragments name but the name of the bundle the fragment belongs to?
[16:30:16] <patrin70> no, I only have my test case in the source tree
[16:30:41] <patrin70> but I don't export the test:src directory in the build property file
[16:30:46] <paulweb515_> philk__: the fragement should still show up, right
[16:30:59] <paulweb515_> patrin70: it matters what's in the build path and in the Required-Bundles header
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[16:41:00] <patrin70> I don't have an explicit dependency on the junit plugin, I have it in the classpath to build my test cases, but in the export log I get a lot of errors like this
[16:41:01] <patrin70> 29. ERROR in C:\Develop\Eclipse\....\<my class>Test.java (at line 24)
[16:41:04] <patrin70> 	import junit.framework.TestCase;
[16:41:05] <patrin70> 	       ^^^^^
[16:41:06] <patrin70> The import junit cannot be resolved
[16:42:35] <patrin70> in the case I would also ship junit with the product, which plugin I must include ? org.junit ?
[16:44:59] <paulweb515_> patrin70: yes ... although if you aren't exporting those directories one would hope it wouldn't try and compile the entire thing (maybe that's a limitation of PDE build)
[16:45:30] <paulweb515_> patrin70: in eclipse we have all of our junit tests in separate plugins, so that they don't ship with the SDK and don't pollute the require-bundles headers
[16:47:15] <patrin70> so I must live with this export problem...
[16:47:55] <patrin70> but is it just a problem of exporting the junit plugin, or because of this problem the export wizard doesn't export other stuff ?
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[17:01:41] <paulweb515_> patrin70: I'm not sure
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[17:02:35] <patrin70> I tested my product and it seems to work...
[17:03:38] <patrin70> btw, for the future I will follow your suggestion to keep my test cases in a separate plugin
[17:03:59] <patrin70> I'm new to Eclipse and I have a lot to learn...
[17:04:35] <_ergo_> did anoyone test eclipse 3.4M5 with PDT ?
[17:04:45] <_ergo_> code completion isint working at all
[17:21:38] <_ergo_> where does eclipse store its data on windows ? apart workspace folder ?
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[17:24:27] <paulweb515_> _ergo_: things relevant to the configuration of eclipse (like what plugins to load) is usually in the eclipse/configuration folder
[17:25:06] <paulweb515_> _ergo_: everything else related to preferences, code completion, layout of your workbench, etc is in your workspace, mostly in the .metadata folder
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[17:26:46] <_ergo_> paulweb515 : and logs etc ?
[17:27:11] <_ergo_> i have problems with eclipse and even deleting the eclipse folder and workspace folder is not fixing the problem :?
[17:27:13] <_ergo_> :/
[17:29:42] <robinr> you can have project settings too
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[17:29:51] <Zerone> ello :)
[17:30:25] <_ergo_> i removed the project settings
[17:30:43] <penelaine> i hesitate to begin, but i am having so much trouble, i have been through 3 or 4 ssh clients, very many pages of setup info, much more, still boils down to when i try to commit to cvs, it says wrong port number..
[17:30:56] <_ergo_> now eclipse works i can create some projects , but using create other.. to select what i want to create and i get a blank page
[17:31:02] <_ergo_> wizard is not working
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[17:32:27] <penelaine> have previously just used pserve.. newly into ext..
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[17:37:40] <philk__> what does "Authorization infrastructure (org.eclipse.core.runtime.compatibility.auth) not installed." mean? Am I using deprecated code?
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[17:40:48] <paulweb515_> yes ... it must mean in order to use one of the methods you call (directly or indirectly) eclipse expects that plugin to be installed
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[17:42:33] <philk__> paulweb515: any idea how I could track down the method that causes it?
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[17:48:23] <paulweb515_> philk__: not easily ... the best I can think of is set an exception breakpoint for CoreException (or whatever it reads in the log) ... then at least you'd know what the app was trying to do when it crapped out ... assuming it's a core expression
[17:48:26] <Chrismc> How can I outsource some paths from the .classpath file into something similar to Ants user specific .properties file?
[17:48:33] <paulweb515_> s/core expression/core exception/
[17:49:12] <paulweb515_> Chrismc: you can create a USER_LIBRARY and reference that ... AFAIK it can then be specific per workspace and edited in the preferences
[17:50:20] <Chrismc> paulpaulweb515: is USER_LIBRARY a file?
[17:50:24] <philk__> paulweb515_ will try that
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[17:52:03] <Chrismc> paulweb515_: is USER_LIBRARY a file?
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[17:57:38] <paulweb515_> Chrismc: it generates a file, maybe ... but that's behind the scenes
[17:57:52] <Chrismc> ok thank you
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[19:09:35] <aca20031> I imported a project from a CVS and it has a redX by the project, plus there are no .class files being generated from the .java files in the cvs. Hovering over the project/X gives me nothing and i cant make it compile the files
[19:10:46] <rcjsuen> aca20031: Did you look in the 'Problems' view?
[19:11:51] <aca20031> hmm..
[19:11:58] <aca20031> Severity and Description	Path	Resource	Location	Creation Time	Id
[19:11:59] <aca20031> The project cannot be built until build path errors are resolved		St0rmServ	Unknown	1203271696066	289
[19:12:02] <aca20031> >.>
[19:12:11] <aca20031> apparently, I have build path errors.
[19:12:38] <rcjsuen> open the project's properties and check its Java Build Path
[19:12:43] <aca20031> Build path entry is missing: org.eclipse.jdt.launching.JRE_CONTAINER/org.eclipse.jdt.internal.debug.ui.launcher.StandardVMType/jre1.6.0_01
[19:12:44] <aca20031> >.>
[19:13:52] <rcjsuen> aca20031: Was there a .project file in the CVS module?
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[19:14:01] <rcjsuen> Where are you importing this project from?
[19:14:02] <aca20031> yeah probably, let me check
[19:14:15] <aca20031> private repository
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[19:14:32] <rcjsuen> aca20031: You mean from work?
[19:14:41] <aca20031> yeah basically
[19:15:07] <rcjsuen> Sounds like someone committed the .project file without generalizing the build path.
[19:15:26] <aca20031> .project,v
[19:15:29] <rcjsuen> It expects a VM installation with the name (I think) of jre1.6.0_01.
[19:15:38] <rcjsuen> Are you guys using Java 6?
[19:15:58] <rcjsuen> Setting an EE would be more appropriate. http://wiki.eclipse.org/EE
[19:17:08] <aca20031> disabling project specific settings in the java compiler section before committing would fix it?
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[19:18:01] <rcjsuen> Not really, not in this scenario.
[19:18:08] <rcjsuen> Compiler settings has nothing to do with the JRE being use.
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[19:19:01] <Zerone> ello rcjsuen :)
[19:19:11] <rcjsuen> hi
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[19:26:27] <_ergo_> rcjsuen: : i downloaded the WPF  version of eclipse 3.3
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[19:26:48] <rcjsuen> _ergo_: That one's "kinda" shaky.
[19:26:50] <_ergo_> it seems that the wizards are working... the whole thing looks a bit different though :]
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[19:27:07] <rcjsuen> Given all the unimplemented methods, amongst other things.
[19:27:23] <_ergo_> well, ill try to download the things i need to work
[19:27:29] <_ergo_> and see if its usable
[19:27:59] <_ergo_> if not i have to wait until the PDT guys update the package to work with 3.4m5
[19:29:12] <_ergo_> so far i cant think about better solution apart not using eclipse at home...
[19:29:21] <_ergo_> on 32 bit i dont have any issues
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[19:43:07] <_ergo_> rcjsuen: : do you have any better solution for me ? i will have a project next week , and would nt want to learn a new temporary IDE :/
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[19:55:53] <_bla> hi! I got a little problem with the content assist in CDT, it is working fine for all the files in the project, but not symbols from *.h files from other places (/usr/includes etc.) /usr/includes is listed in properties -> includes -> discovered paths so I thought it should work
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[20:32:49] <dajudge> hi all
[20:34:09] <dajudge> is there a easy way to add an alternative java compiler to the eclipse SDK? I'm implementing a plugin that uses a modified version of the sun's javac and i'd love to get around ANT stuff
[20:35:02] <dajudge> would org.eclipse.core.resources.builder be a good point to start?
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[20:38:28] <FlaPer87> lol
[20:38:38] <brisa> hi
[20:39:24] <brisa> is anyone able to use debbuger with php pages and actually make breakpoint work ?
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[20:45:33] <Zerone> hey dudes the preferences dialogues of eclipse is made by using the preferences admin or the configuration admin or anything else?
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[21:51:50] <rcjsuen> Zerone: It's made up of extension points contributing preference pages.
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[22:00:22] <francis4> anyone know details on ltk refactoring?
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[22:06:39] <francis4> can you influence the order of the DeleteParticipants?
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[22:26:13] <Zerone> rcjsuen so it does not have anything to do with OSGi
[22:26:14] <Zerone> ?
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[22:27:20] <Steve^> Hi, is it possible to stop eclipse following symbolic links?
[22:27:40] <rcjsuen> Zerone: No.
[22:27:54] <Steve^> I have them purely for the web server, I don't want eclipse to worry about the other code or worse, try to commit it through subclipse
[22:28:11] <rcjsuen> francis4: Unlikely.
[22:28:19] <rcjsuen> francis4: If one plug-in wants to be the first and another wants to be the first, what gives?
[22:29:07] <francis4> rcjsuen: i understand; there needs to be a dependency mechanism somehow though
[22:29:30] <karltk> Steve^: I suppose you could make the symlinks unreadable by the user running eclipse...
[22:29:41] <francis4> rjsuen: for example, I am uding deleteparticipant, and that gets executed initially *after* the actual delete
[22:29:50] <_ergo_> how do i configure eclipse to have PDT and work on FTP located files ( im using 3.4m4 )
[22:29:54] <Steve^> karltk, that is pure genius!
[22:30:09] <_ergo_> i tried using remote systems connection
[22:30:12] <Steve^> I'm sure it'll bit back, but for now, I'll do that :)
[22:30:15] <Steve^> *bite
[22:30:16] <francis4> rcjsuen: and the undo is executed *before* the actual delete, so the undo can't access the resource that's being restored
[22:30:17] <_ergo_> but im not sure thats correct way
[22:30:32] <francis4> rcjsuen: I'm using this to implement recovering persistent properties after delete undo
[22:32:06] <Steve^> karltk, do symlinks take the persmissions of the folder they point to?
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[22:32:44] <karltk> Steve^: I believe so.
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[22:33:09] <Steve^> karltk, then this is going to make it a right pain for me to edit the other dir in normal circumstances :(
[22:33:20] <message144> Hi... maybe this is a stupid question, but is there a way to unlock a locked content type?
[22:34:19] <message144> i tried installing JSEclipse on top of PDT, but PDT locked the .js content type which i think is causing some conflicts
[22:34:45] <karltk> Steve^: if it's supposed to be editable by the same user that's running eclipse, then that might indeed present a problem. if you have apparmor installed, I suppose you use that to prevent eclipse/java from reading the dirs in question.
[22:35:00] <karltk> Steve^: but all this is very heavy-handed, mind you.
[22:35:15] <_ergo_> no one worked on projects that all files were based on FTP ?
[22:35:42] <Steve^> karltk, perhaps for dev I'll keep them seperate somehow, thanks anyhow
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[22:36:18] <francis4> how do you send a message to someone by name, without it being a pm?
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[22:36:52] <karltk> francis4: prefix it by name:?
[22:37:06] <francis4> karltk: just like this?
[22:37:10] <karltk> francis4: exactly so
[22:37:21] <francis4> karktk: thanks :)
[22:37:26] <karltk> np:)
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[22:42:21] <pflanzenmoerder> can anybody point me to a tutorial that actually explains how custom propertyTesters are done?
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[22:44:57] <_ergo_> ehh.. is this channel only for java developers ?
[22:45:12] <_ergo_> or no one ever worked with remote ftp files ?
[22:46:08] <karltk> _ergo_: I suspect that's a rather unusual setup.
[22:47:12] <_ergo_> hmm things like dreamweaver etc. have ftp support ie. you import files, after you edit them, when you save the file is uploaded automatically
[22:47:58] <_ergo_> i would expect PDT to have that , but it doesnt seem so
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[22:48:58] <_ergo_> it doesnt seem SO unussual to me
[22:50:19] <karltk> _ergo_: I don't suppose it helps pointing out that emacs has it, too;P Dunno if this might be helpful: http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/EFS
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[22:51:40] <mohadib> hello
[22:52:00] <mohadib> is it possible to make an existing tab into its own window?
[22:52:10] <mohadib> for a open java file
[22:52:13] <_ergo_> karltk : it seems that could be it :]
[22:53:20] <karltk> mohadib: you can do Window->New Window and drag the tab over there (if it's a tab of a view or an editor)
[22:53:32] <mohadib> thanks
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[23:26:37] <_ergo_> karltk : it seems that the easiest way to work is just using samba share and mount a local filesystem on windows
[23:29:11] <karltk> _ergo_: :( that doesn't really surprise me.
[23:29:34] <karltk> _ergo_: did you try any of the efs plugins that provided ftp support?
[23:29:37] <Zerone> n8 *
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[23:30:31] <_ergo_> i used the "remote connection" plugins
[23:30:36] <_ergo_> they worked  fine
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[23:31:11] <_ergo_> but PDT didnt want to code complete
[23:31:19] <_ergo_> but yeah it worked like a file system
[23:31:33] <_ergo_> you could open a file save it and it was transparent
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[23:32:09] <_ergo_> but unfortunately i have to use 3.4m4 so everything may screwed up, on a stable eclipse that may just work fine
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[23:35:00] <karltk> aha
[23:36:42] <_ergo_> yeah, im on 64 bit windows so i have many "adventures" with eclipse :D
[23:38:06] <karltk> hehe. it's been somewhat of a bumpy ride for me as well on 64bit.
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