[00:00:18] <paRaDoX> I only want to know why there is a remarkable difference in performance ?
[00:00:27] <rcjsuen> I don't know, I've never used NetBeans.
[00:00:57] <paRaDoX> never ?
[00:01:07] <rcjsuen> paRaDoX: okay, that's a lie,k i used 3.5 for 5 minutes
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[00:06:18] <diogosales> well, leaving now, bye
[00:06:30] <rcjsuen> diogosales: good luck
[00:06:53] <diogosales> rcjsuen: thanks for the support
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[02:17:36] <jwisher_> is it possible to set eclipse europa/web tools to have the ability to deploy a webapp to a remote server, or only local?  do I have to always upload my webapp manually?
[02:21:31] <d_a_carver> jwisher_: should be able to tell it that it's a remote server if you use an existing server instance.  But I haven't tried it.
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[03:12:46] <Adrenalin`> Any idea why "delete" button have stop to work in Eclipse ? It works fine if I go to another program.. Any ideea ? THIS MAKE ME REALY ANGRY
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[03:17:34] <Adrenalin`> JAVA SUCKS, TEACH TO WRITE IN C, LAZY ASSHOLS
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[03:29:57] <frivol> paulweb515, wake up
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[03:31:54] <paulweb515_> frivol: what's up?
[03:32:09] <frivol> paulweb515, oh, never mind, he quit.  Sorry to disturb.
[03:32:28] <paulweb515_> Ah, I see ... bad people doing bad things :-)
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[03:36:05] <paulweb515_> frivol: I fix, see :-)
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[03:37:20] <paulweb515_> ironically, I'm on my way to bed ...
[03:37:23] <paulweb515_> g'night all
[03:41:31] <frivol> Sleep well.
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[04:47:53] <d03boy> for some reason eclipse wont make a javadoc.. the "Javadoc comand" line is empty, do I need to put something there?
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[04:56:34] <rcjsuen> d03boy: Do you have a JDK?
[05:02:42] <d03boy> ya, i figured it out
[05:03:31] <rcjsuen> d03boy: Cool.
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[05:05:02] <d03boy> anyone use Enterprise Architect by any random chance?
[05:05:10] <d03boy> trying to laod in some code to create a diagram
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[06:54:32] <complex> hi
[07:01:48] <complex> i have questions about ExpandBar. I want to implement an ExpandBar which only on open ExpandItem. When I open another ExpandItem, than all the last opened will be closed. This should work with an ExpandListener. But how can I expand my ExpandItem to the full height of the window. Similiar to the Lotus Notes MiniApps on the right side of this screenshot: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2246/2202107202_df0b562059_o.png
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[07:15:55] <complex> any ideas how i can start?
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[08:02:11] <hd420> what's the suggested hibernate plugin for eclipse 3.x?
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[08:32:25] <philk_> hd420: i think hibernate does not provide any osgi bundles unfortunatly
[08:33:38] <ijuma> hd420: maybe http://www.hibernate.org/255.html ?
[08:35:23] <philk_> ijuma: nope, thats just a tool to work with hibernate mapping files etc from within the ide
[08:36:17] <ijuma> philk_: i thought that's what he asked?
[08:36:36] <ijuma> i don't see any mention of an osgi bundle
[08:36:49] <ijuma> so, without clarification I am not sure
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[08:38:00] <francis4> i joined late and i use hibernate with eclipse but i did not see the original question
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[09:19:26] <philk_> ijuma: you are right... thought he wanted a osgi bundle for the hibernate libs... which can be quite tricky to set up, regarding classpaths and buddy policies
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[09:19:56] <philk_> francis4: how do you solve the classpath problems with hibernate loading your classes?
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[10:35:33] <njbartlett> hd420: If you're still around, take a look at this web page about using Hibernate with OSGi. It was written by Peter Kriens, the OSGi technical director: http://www.aqute.biz/Code/BndHibernate
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[10:49:30] <TheIndian> i want to assign a shortcut CTRL+E to open the currently opened file in an external editor ( VIM ).... any tips.....................
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[11:03:28] <philk_> njbartlett: hi! regarding hibernate and OSGi... is there a way to do that without bnd?
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[11:04:04] <philk_> njbartlett: also what about buddy-policy... I think you need it to use hibernate
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[11:21:30] <complex> another questions: ok/cancel-buttons on the right side of an dialogbox, with GridLayout. Or how can I add an empty cell?
[11:22:52] <complex> like in this screenshot: http://www.topxml.com/biztalkutilities/tutorial/MOM/image007.jpg
[11:32:51] <complex> imho this simple task is not possible. :) or did i miss something?
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[11:53:09] <cult_acamas> hi all, is there a eclipse rcp/plugin development channel somewhere?
[11:58:30] <complex> for the GridLayout problem you can can use something like data.horizontalSpan = 2; data.horizontalAlignment = SWT.END; but the button align to the right side and not with the text-input fields.
[12:05:59] <cult_acamas> i am implementing code completion for a editor and implemented IContentAssistProcessor and return Proposals with ICompletionProposal[] computeCompletionProposals. If i start to type, these proposals are showed to me as expected.
[12:05:59] <cult_acamas> In Java-editor there is also a box with JavaDoc-comments next to the proposals. Does anybody know how to display such additional information for every proposal? Which interface? I wasnt enlighten by looking at Java-Completion Source
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[12:10:50] <philk_> what is this error telling me? No Classloader found for plug-in org.eclipse.jdt.junit4.runtime
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[12:14:32] <nitind> Are you running with a proper JRE version?
[12:14:57] <njbartlett> complex: For an empty cell, I usually use a Label control with no text
[12:16:57] <philk_> nitind: yes... running with 1.5
[12:17:27] <vwegert> I've got a problem with quick-fixes for PDE issues, and it looks like a bug to me (only one of the selected markers is processed, the other ones are ignored). I've found bug 138612, but that issue is slightly different. Should I file a new bug or add to the existing one? Would this be a PDE issue or some higher-level component?
[12:20:37] <nitind> philk_: Try validating the plug-ins for that launch from the configuration dialog.
[12:21:23] <philk_> nitind: I always do, no erros found
[12:21:45] <philk_> I want to use a testclass from a fragment plugin
[12:21:48] <philk_> always worked before
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[12:29:32] <folgore07>  Ciao a Tutti... ;)
[12:29:38] <folgore07> hi
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[13:13:21] <rcjsuen> complex: I think there's a way to customize RCP like that. I don't think it's using ExpandBar there though.
[13:15:45] <rcjsuen> vwegert: You mean only one marker has a quick fix offer?
[13:17:32] <vwegert> rcjsuen: No, I've got multiple entries in the Problems View, select all of them (same type), start quick fix, the dialog pops up, and only one of the issues is corrected
[13:19:33] <rcjsuen> vwegert: I'd try adding to the existing one.
[13:19:45] <rcjsuen> Although in 3.4 the markers view has been redone.
[13:21:39] <vwegert> rcjsuen: And my problem is a PDE issue (something in the manifests...) and not a Java (JDT?) problem
[13:21:58] <rcjsuen> vwegert: Why don't you try and reproduce it on JDT side
[13:25:47] <philk_> how do I get the service from within ServiceTrackerCustomizer.addingService?
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[13:28:00] <philk_> ah... using the context, the service was registered with
[13:32:03] <vwegert> rcjsuen: same problem
[13:32:19] <rcjsuen> vwegert: then add to the bug saying so
[13:32:30] <vwegert> Will do.
[13:32:32] <rcjsuen> with reproducible steps and your build id
[13:32:58] <rcjsuen> but you might want to try on a recent build if you're not on m5 or something
[13:33:07] <rcjsuen> cuz it might've been fixed with the new markers view
[13:42:44] <vwegert> rcjsuen: Not with 3.4M5 at least
[13:43:19] <rcjsuen> vwegert: well then
[13:43:32] <vwegert> rcjsuen: And if you mean the "all markers" view, there's not even a quick fix menu item in there
[13:43:43] <rcjsuen> vwegert: I meant the 'Problems' view.
[13:43:55] <rcjsuen> vwegert: If you're on M5, you should see 'Problems' and 'Problems (legacy)'
[13:44:28] <vwegert> rcjsuen: I was using "Problems"
[13:44:52] <rcjsuen> vwegert: Yeah, that would be the new one.
[13:45:09] <rcjsuen> vwegert: thx for the report, I will look into it later today
[13:45:14] <rcjsuen> Or you can ;)
[13:45:17] <vwegert> rcjsuen: in the legacy view I can't even invoke quick fix with multiple items selected
[13:45:25] <rcjsuen> how odd
[13:45:45] <vwegert> rcjsuen: I just happened to sumble upon this when trying to contribute something for the EMF guys :-)
[13:45:52] <rcjsuen> :)
[13:46:08] <vwegert> rcjsuen: PDE and JDT is magic far beyond my spell points
[13:46:38] <rcjsuen> vwegert: Well, in this case, it's probably at the Platform/Text level.
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[13:46:45] <rcjsuen> Or possibly the markers not iterating over everything.
[13:47:13] <vwegert> rcjsuen: ...a maze of twisty passages, all alike...
[13:47:20] <betasheet> heyho everyone :)
[13:47:33] <betasheet> has anybody once tried to use the eclipse junit view with a osgi application?
[13:47:34] <rcjsuen> vwegert: Well, it depends ;)
[13:47:43] <rcjsuen> vwegert: Most of the Platform/UI code has been quite readable imo.
[13:48:12] <rcjsuen> betasheet: You should ask the actual question instead of asking a "poll" question.
[13:48:18] <vwegert> rcjsuen: Sure - but it'S huge, and it needs time to find your way inside all o this...
[13:48:41] <rcjsuen> vwegert: well, when you invoke quick fix, what happens, a dialog appears, you say?
[13:49:40] <vwegert> rcjsuen: Yes. The same one that used to contain the "similar problems" button that didn't do anything
[13:51:28] <rcjsuen> vwegert: I have two 'potential null pointer access', selecting both has 'Quick Fix' disabled
[13:52:01] <rcjsuen> vwegert: anyway, i found another one
[13:52:20] <rcjsuen> vwegert: But okay, in this scenario, a dialog appears which makes the debugging a little more trivial (or I should say, the code digging for potential contributors).
[13:52:21] <betasheet> we're trying to use a "JUnit Plug-in Test" to run junit4 tests in an osgi application. problem is, that the tests don't get started although they're selected in the run/debug configuration dialog. there are no errors in any kind (seems like junit4 compatible tests are found), but the test code just never gets executed :-( ... does anyone know a possible reason for this? :)
[13:53:05] <rcjsuen> So since we know a dialog appears, the easiest way is to walk backwards, so what I would do is put a breakpoint in the open() method of the Window class so that it stops there
[13:53:11] <rcjsuen> then I can go up the stack trace and find the caller
[13:53:19] <rcjsuen> from there i can know why there is only one selection being passed
[13:53:44] <rcjsuen> betasheet: Aren't you still specifying a target TestSuite class?
[13:54:00] <vwegert> rcjsuen: Something like checkpoint groups would be handy, I think...
[13:54:09] <rcjsuen> vwegert: checkpoint groups?
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[13:54:45] <rcjsuen> complex_: I think there's a way to customize RCP like that. I don't think it's using ExpandBar there though.
[13:54:56] <vwegert> rcjsuen: A new feature in ABAP (SAP R/3 programming language). Static breakpoint statements that are normally switched off but can be switched on at runtime...
[13:55:18] <rcjsuen> i
[13:55:19] <vwegert> rcjsuen: something like "if you're interested in $foo, throw this switch and see where the debugger leads you"
[13:55:19] <rcjsuen> o
[13:55:53] <rcjsuen> complex_: but since rcp is actually swt, you could achieve similar results
[13:56:56] <betasheet> rcjsuen: well, you can either select the class containing one or more tests, or select a project / package / source folder containing the test classes
[13:57:27] <rcjsuen> betasheet: ah, i never do it that way
[13:57:48] <rcjsuen> I've ran plug-in tests, that was fine
[13:59:46] <betasheet> rcjsuen: well, we need the tests to be executed after our osgi app started .. so we thought we needed that launcher config - is there another way to get this working?
[14:00:22] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[14:00:42] <rcjsuen> when you say OSGi app, what do you mean exactly
[14:00:56] <rcjsuen> i would've assumed that all the dependency etc would've worked out that way
[14:01:07] <rcjsuen> does your unit test plug-in's activator even get activated?
[14:02:44] <rcjsuen> vwegert: k, done whatever i was doing, i'll take a look see at that bug
[14:03:02] <rcjsuen> vwegert: your point is that in the quick fix dialog only one entry is listed?
[14:04:12] <vwegert> rcjsuen: I don't really mind whether there is only one item listed - I selected multiple items in the Problems View, issued an action, and most of my original selection is ignored.
[14:04:43] <vwegert> rcjsuen: If the way to solve this is to show multiple items in the dialog, fine with me
[14:05:31] <betasheet> rcjsuen: hmm, it's an osgi app using the equinox framework and the eclipse launcher - so firstly all needed plug-ins should start up and after that the tests should run .. we're currently trying with only one ExampleTest.java file in the osgi plug-in that needs to be tested, so there's no own activator for that test by now ..
[14:05:32] <betasheet> how do you think would such an activator look like? do you need to register the tests to the osgi framework?
[14:06:35] <rcjsuen> vwegert: yes, that's what I mean, you selected multiple ones, but only one entry showed up, i wanted to confirm that
[14:07:15] <vwegert> rcjsuen: OK.
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[14:07:45] <rcjsuen> vwegert: but if you select multiple ones for something like, missing $NON-NLS-$ tags
[14:07:48] <rcjsuen> vwegert: they _do_ show up
[14:08:20] <raxelo> hi all. what can be the problem. i imported existing project and now - i don't see content assitent - it is empty
[14:08:28] <raxelo> empty at all
[14:08:39] <rcjsuen> raxelo: Imported from?
[14:08:52] <rcjsuen> raxelo: And it'd be in your best interest to state the language you're coding in.
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[14:10:07] <raxelo> it is java project, i developed one in windows version of eclipse, now trying to continue at linux
[14:10:23] <rcjsuen> raxelo: Does your project in the Package Explorer have the 'J' icon?
[14:10:30] <raxelo> yes
[14:10:32] <rcjsuen> vwegert: I think the problem is possibly with the customization of the individual quick fixes.
[14:10:42] <rcjsuen> raxelo: Do you get syntax highlighting?
[14:10:48] <rcjsuen> What happens if you hit Ctrl-Space?
[14:10:49] <raxelo> rcjsuen, yes
[14:10:51] <rcjsuen> Does the list even pop up?
[14:11:16] <raxelo> rcjsuen, i see poped up window, but it write - no default proposals
[14:11:37] <rcjsuen> raxelo: When did this problem start
[14:11:43] <rcjsuen> you said trying to continue at Linux, this is a fresh install?
[14:11:46] <vwegert> rcjsuen: I can provide you with a screenshot if that helps
[14:12:09] <rcjsuen> vwegert: No, I can reproduce it, but as I said, I can also _not_ reproduce it with the NLS tags quick fix.
[14:12:11] <vwegert> rcjsuen: Is this the "customization" that means "user twiddled too much with settings he didn't understand"? :-)
[14:12:12] <raxelo> rcjsuen, no it's not
[14:12:29] <rcjsuen> vwegert: well, unless you can reproduce it with the the NLS tag quick fix
[14:12:40] <rcjsuen> vwegert: I mean when you invoke quick fix, the dialog gives you several options
[14:12:55] <rcjsuen> raxelo: if you start a new Java project, do you get quick fix there?
[14:13:13] <raxelo> rcjsuen, one sec
[14:13:59] <raxelo> rcjsuen, no default proposals in new project too
[14:14:17] <rcjsuen> raxelo: Window > Preferences > Java > Editor > Content Assist > Advanced
[14:14:19] <rcjsuen> checkmarks
[14:14:36] <vwegert> rcjsuen: right - with the NON-NLS quick fix, it works for me
[14:14:41] <rcjsuen> vwegert: right
[14:14:50] <rcjsuen> vwegert: but if i did like, private int i;, private int j;, those two would fail
[14:15:10] <rcjsuen> :)
[14:15:12] * rcjsuen starts investigating.
[14:15:30] <raxelo> rcjsuen, thanks . thanks a lot !
[14:17:05] <rcjsuen> vwegert: Interesting
[14:17:18] <rcjsuen> vwegert: can you try the private int i; private int j; thing i said please
[14:17:34] <vwegert> rcjsuen: you mean two unused variables on the same line?
[14:17:44] <rcjsuen> vwegert: well, not same line (well, doesn't matter)
[14:17:58] <rcjsuen> So I have like 'The field Test.i is never read locally' and same thing for Test.j
[14:18:05] <rcjsuen> so now select both, invoke quick fix
[14:18:32] <rcjsuen> vwegert: now the first option is (probably?) 'Create getter and setter for 'i'', correct?
[14:18:34] <vwegert> rcjsuen: same line has an interesting effect: You can select bot, invoke quick fix, and "FooBar.java Line 8" shows up twice in the dialog, with only the first one being selected
[14:18:50] <rcjsuen> Interesting
[14:18:54] <rcjsuen> Mine is on two lines
[14:19:01] <vwegert> rcjsuen: Ah, for getter/setter generation, it's different again
[14:19:11] <rcjsuen> but yo ucan select
[14:19:14] <rcjsuen> vwegert: remove 'i'
[14:19:15] <vwegert> I was talking about "remove i, keep side-effect assignments"
[14:19:18] <rcjsuen> and then you see _both_ i and j
[14:19:32] <rcjsuen> yes, i only see the first one selected
[14:19:39] <rcjsuen> so it _is_ processing them all
[14:19:50] <rcjsuen> but it seems incapable of generating getter/setters for both i and j
[14:19:52] <rcjsuen> (for whatever reasons)
[14:20:06] <rcjsuen> vwegert: This might still be a Platform problem, I don't know ;p
[14:20:13] <rcjsuen> Or JDT needs to handle these things better *shrugs*
[14:20:20] <vwegert> rcjsuen: for the "remove" fix, it doesn't matter whether the variables are on the same line.
[14:20:53] <rcjsuen> vwegert: what do you mean by doesn't matter, you mean they both show up in the bottom?
[14:21:01] <vwegert> rcjsuen: I've got the same issue with manifest files - and no, I'm not desparate to make it into zx' blog :-)
[14:21:26] <rcjsuen> They do both show up on the bottom
[14:21:31] <rcjsuen> Test.java line 7, Test.java line 7
[14:21:38] <vwegert> rcjsuen: they both show up in the view, and even if I select both of them in the view, only the first one is selected in the dialog
[14:21:53] <rcjsuen> vwegert: that's correct, same here
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[14:23:01] <rcjsuen> It might be difficult to keep the selection saved though, I don't know.
[14:23:12] <rcjsuen> in terms of keeping a record of the proper one across resolution selections
[14:23:15] <rcjsuen> Is what I meant.
[14:26:39] <rcjsuen> vwegert: I just commented on the bug, feel free to add more. :)
[14:29:18] <rcjsuen> betasheet: Well, I mean just create a class that implements BundleActivator (or whatever that interface) was called.
[14:29:37] <rcjsuen> betasheet: I meant, just to see if its start(BundleContext) method is even called.
[14:29:42] <rcjsuen> Or whether it is even being constructed.
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[14:37:27] <betasheet> rcjsuen: the osgi/eclipse application starts up, the plug-ins are started as usually (in the normal run config). the package containing the test is also activated .. you can find the test class @ http://rafb.net/p/bX1ebJ63.html
[14:38:16] <rcjsuen> betasheet: I'm not too concerned about the "package". By package you mean Java package?
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[14:38:31] <betasheet> the plug-in bundle
[14:38:44] <rcjsuen> ah
[14:38:50] <betasheet> so the bundleactivator's start method is called, yep ;)
[14:38:58] <rcjsuen> betasheet: If you tell it to run a TestClass instead of all test classes, does that work?
[14:39:33] <betasheet> nope, tried that, no change :-/
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[14:40:34] <betasheet> rcjsuen: the application starts as usual, but the test in the ExampleClass is not executed
[14:40:49] <rcjsuen> betasheet: Did you try JUnit 3?
[14:41:27] <betasheet> not yet ;)
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[14:47:08] <complex_> njbartlett: yes, but using empty labels ooks like a hack
[14:47:40] <complex_> rcjsuen: yeah, i don't like the ExpandBar either. But I found no other widgets for this kind of ui. lotus sametime using there own implementation of ExpandBar, but i don't think its free :)
[14:48:03] <rcjsuen> complex_: empty labels is what most people does
[14:48:11] <rcjsuen> complex_: http://wiki.eclipse.org/images/6/6c/Organizer.png
[14:48:40] <rcjsuen> complex_: http://www.richclient2.eu/2007_04_16/customizing-the-ui-in-small-rcp-projects/
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[14:49:07] <complex_> rcjsuen: oh looks good!
[14:53:05] <complex_> rcjsuen: even if many people using empty labels, i don't think its a good design to create a gui.
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[14:54:07] <rcjsuen> complex_: Well, you could try asking on the SWT newsgroup.
[14:55:15] <rcjsuen> but oyu'll probably get the same answer
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[14:59:57] <complex_> rcjsuen: something like layout.addWidget(none, cellnumber) or the swt way, new Empty(comp, SWT.NONE) would be better :)
[15:00:56] <rcjsuen> complex_: Feel free to file a bug.
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[15:12:26] <philk__> how do i change the properties of a registered service?
[15:15:56] <jf_n> hi, I am currently using eclipse 3.4 M4 64 on vista 64 with a 64bit Sun JVM (java 6 rev3) with wtp M4 and the maven 2 plugin from apache. That setup worked kind of ok for a while, but now eclipse I get some weird bugs that I am unable to track down: on saving a file (tested: java, .properties) eclipse just closes, same happens sometimes on building a project, and sometimes it just goes pooff...
[15:15:58] <jf_n> ...without any compile/buildactions/validations. my real question now is: how could I possibly track this down to write a bug report, and: is anyone else having these problems? could it be eclipse unrelated (for example I might need to give it read write access on the eclipse_home)?
[15:15:59] <philk__> there seems to be no easy way to do that
[15:17:39] <rcjsuen> ~tell jf_n about logs
[15:17:39] <KOS-MOS> jf_n: Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[15:17:40] <complex_> rcjsuen: a free swt widget-set with with new elements like  the kind of extention bar would be a nice. maybe i will don some work in this direction.
[15:17:56] <rcjsuen> complex_: Good to hear. You should look at the Nebula project.
[15:18:50] <jf_n> ~pastebin
[15:18:51] <KOS-MOS> please paste the relevant information to a pastebin and the paste the created url back in the channel - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca - http://www.nopaste.com/
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[15:20:29] <jf_n> http://pastebin.com/d79f2751c
[15:21:38] <jf_n> ok, I see something, but "Java Model Exception: Java Model Status [[Working copy] __2F_rave_2F_WebContent_2F_welcome_2E_jsp.java [in <default> [in src [in rave]]] does not exist]" shouldnt cause an appcrash imho
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[15:24:22] <rcjsuen> jf_n: maybe you should rename the file, try again, and see what happens so you get a fresh log
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[15:25:09] <jf_n> oh, I got a new one, just needed to run eclipse again, crashed again on me ;)
[15:25:40] <jf_n> this time its a concurrent modification exception in the validation
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[15:26:20] <jf_n> http://pastebin.com/d28743755
[15:26:35] <rcjsuen> Hard to believe that would crash it, but
[15:26:39] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[15:26:44] <jf_n> nothing else in the log
[15:26:52] <rcjsuen> as that's only one thing in the log
[15:27:12] <rcjsuen> jf_n: Do you have any hs_err_pid files in your eclipse/ folder?
[15:27:21] <jf_n> could be that eclipse crashes while attempting to write the log
[15:27:31] <jf_n> yes, i did have at least
[15:27:48] <rcjsuen> Those would be more informative.
[15:28:08] <jf_n> get it for you, 1 sec
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[15:29:48] <jf_n> http://pastebin.com/d72bfd0e2
[15:29:59] <jf_n> there it is, thats the current one
[15:31:30] <jf_n> [error occurred during error reporting (printing native stack), id 0xc0000005] <--- I like that one
[15:34:36] <philk__> is a service tracker automatically closed when the bundle it registered with is stopped?
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[16:00:55] <jf_n> ok, might be jvm related, guess I try a different one
[16:02:04] <jf_n> anyway: thanks
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[16:20:29] <erik2> I overwrote the source files in my project with previous versions. Which is ok. but now I get the messages: 'resource is out of sync with the file system: test.css'. What do I do ?
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[16:22:47] <bov> Anyone running Eclipse from OSX?  It doesn't seem to support any startup parameters.
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[16:25:17] <dfas> hm, is it a good idea to commit .classpath and .project to my SVN? what is best-practice
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[16:29:07] <Pluxxx> anyone know how I should install JUnit?
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[16:31:14] <bov> dfas: I have seen it done both ways, currently we commit the full Eclipse project.
[16:32:24] <bov> Pluxxx: Eclipse already includes the junit libs.
[16:33:03] <Pluxxx> bov, eclipse tells me "The import junit cannot be resolvedThe import junit cannot be resolved"
[16:33:08] <Pluxxx> sry for double paste
[16:34:56] <bov> Did you look at the project properties Libraries for the junit-x.x.x.jar
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[16:39:49] <Pluxxx> now I did, and its not there
[16:40:00] <Pluxxx> I am downloading it now..
[16:40:43] <Pluxxx> but.. what is the difference on these:  	junit-4.4.jar   	junit-4.4-src.jar  and  	junit-dep-4.4.jar
[16:41:19] <Pluxxx> I got the first one.. seemed to be the one that most downloaded (except from the zip)
[16:41:45] <Pluxxx> where would it be normal to put the jar file in a linux system ?
[16:43:03] <bov> that's up to you, usually in something like "third-party" in your workspace.
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[16:51:05] <kthakore> I have eclispe with cdt plugin on linux and I keep getting error that says " an internal error occurred during launching" when I try to build and run a make managaed c== project
[16:51:10] <kthakore> c++*
[16:51:25] <kthakore> what can I do?
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[16:54:48] <rcjsuen> erik2: click the file, refresh
[16:54:53] <rcjsuen> dfas: I do
[16:54:57] <rcjsuen> dfas: but i write eclipse plug-ins
[16:55:04] <rcjsuen> so it's kind of a given
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[17:05:16] <Pluxxx> do I need to restart eclipse or something for it to detect that I have added the junit-4-4.jar to CLASSPATH ??
[17:05:34] <rcjsuen> Pluxxx: CLASSPATH?
[17:05:47] <rcjsuen> Pluxxx: You mean the environment variable at the OS level?
[17:05:50] <Pluxxx> yes
[17:05:56] <Pluxxx> as in "installed junit"
[17:06:19] <Pluxxx> eclipse gave me the error: The import junit cannot be resolved
[17:06:26] <Pluxxx> so I needed to download junit...
[17:06:32] <rcjsuen> Pluxxx: Adding to $CLASSPATH doesn't really do anything.
[17:06:52] <rcjsuen> Pluxxx: are you trying to use junit 3 or junit 4
[17:06:54] <Pluxxx> well, its working when I tested it from the konsoll
[17:07:05] <rcjsuen> console != eclipse
[17:07:06] <Pluxxx> junit 4...
[17:07:10] <Pluxxx> I know..
[17:07:16] <rcjsuen> Pluxxx: well then ;)
[17:07:19] <rcjsuen> Pluxxx: So open your project's properties
[17:07:22] <Pluxxx> so Im wondering what I need to do so that eclipse will find it out
[17:07:23] <rcjsuen> go to the Java Build Path
[17:07:24] <rcjsuen> in the libraries page
[17:07:31] <rcjsuen> add the external jar
[17:07:50] <rcjsuen> like /some/path/eclipse/plugins/org.junit4_4.3.1/junit.jar
[17:07:55] <rcjsuen> or wherever you installed Eclipse
[17:07:56] <rcjsuen> something like that
[17:08:30] <Pluxxx> lovely.. The import junit.framework.Assert is never used
[17:08:35] <Pluxxx> it works at least :)
[17:08:36] <Pluxxx> thx
[17:08:43] <rcjsuen> k
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[17:15:12] <Petfrogg> hello!
[17:15:31] <rcjsuen> Petfrogg: hI
[17:15:32] <Petfrogg> i am trying to comparing PHPEclipse vs PDTEclipse
[17:15:42] <Petfrogg> anyone here running PDTEclipse?
[17:16:20] <rcjsuen> Petfrogg: You should just ask the question isntead oftaking a poll/
[17:16:28] <Petfrogg> 8 )
[17:16:31] <Petfrogg> sorry
[17:16:53] <Petfrogg> well the thing is that PDTeclipse somehow does not read the phpfiles and put the structure into the outline
[17:16:59] <Petfrogg> but phpeclipse does
[17:17:37] <Petfrogg> so what i am wonderig is - is there a setting i am missing?
[17:17:42] <rcjsuen> Petfrogg: Did you try making a new php project with pdt though?
[17:18:14] <Petfrogg> noop - i checked out from svn
[17:18:24] <rcjsuen> Petfrogg: then try making a new one
[17:18:34] <rcjsuen> from scratch New > PHP Project (or whatever, I don't use PDT actually)
[17:18:40] <rcjsuen> you have likely hit the "nature" problem
[17:18:46] <Petfrogg> ahh good one
[17:18:58] <Petfrogg> btw - for not using PDT - you are nice 8 )
[17:19:26] <rcjsuen> Petfrogg: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_manually_assign_a_project_Nature_or_BuildCommand.3F
[17:19:30] <rcjsuen> Petfrogg: Eh?
[17:19:43] <Petfrogg> i am just pulling your tail
[17:19:44] <rcjsuen> Petfrogg: Not sure I follow, how using or not using PDT has anything to do with this.
[17:19:54] <rcjsuen> mm okay o.O
[17:20:08] <Petfrogg> i am just making a joke about you beeing nice and helpfull
[17:21:10] <rcjsuen> well okay
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[17:24:41] <Petfrogg> rcjsuen!
[17:24:42] <Petfrogg> thanx
[17:24:48] <rcjsuen> sure
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[18:36:45] <pierreth> hello, I am unable to compile with cdt and qt, anyone using cdt with qt?
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[18:45:09] <pierreth> hello, OK, now I am unable to debug, it says that I have no symbols
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[18:58:50] <Zerone> ello :)
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[19:01:45] <adhamh> any recommendations on a UML plugin?  I'd like to be able to create models and generate code.  I've played with papyrus, just wondering if there's anything "better"
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[19:05:19] <dominikg> ~searchplugins uml
[19:05:20] <KOS-MOS> Try searching for plug-ins: http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/modules.php?name=search&action=search&q=uml - http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/search.jsp?query=uml
[19:05:48] <dominikg> adhamh, have a look at omondo uml and/or eUML2
[19:07:44] <adhamh> dominikg, thanks
[19:09:38] <adhamh> wow the comments on eUML2 range from "best ever" to "buggy as hell"
[19:10:14] <vwegert> .oO( true for about everything out there :-) )
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[19:37:51] <dfas> how do I add libraries (jars) in eclipse making sure it just points the dir to subfolder /lib/ ? (so the settings it will work on others computers too)
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[19:56:37] <dfas> nevermind, I was mistaken
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[20:10:01] <Petfrogg> adhamh: have you found any good UML tool?
[20:10:18] <Petfrogg> looking at the list - but is anyone of them good?
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[20:42:30] <dominikg> adhamh, eUML2 is an omondo spinoff and the author(s) did some comment/rating spam so some of those 0/10 ratings are fake.
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[20:43:22] <rcjsuen> dominikg: How despicable.
[20:45:59] <dominikg> yeah, doesn't shed a good light on both sides... but the plugins are for free(for non-commercial use) and to my knowledge there are no other free plugins that offer the same features (roundtrip engeneering, picture export etc.)
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[21:04:22] <Zerone> ello rcjsuen :)
[21:04:38] <rcjsuen> Zerone: Hi
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[21:54:10] <adhamh> Petfrogg eUML2 seems pretty good
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[21:56:28] <Petfrogg> hm ok
[21:56:31] <Petfrogg> gonna take a look
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[22:15:12] <]{aftej1> hi
[22:15:36] <rcjsuen> ]{aftej1: Hi
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[22:15:56] <]{aftej1> I'm here 'cause I hav problem
[22:16:25] <]{aftej1> I have special needs with GEF
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[23:04:51] <blbrown> I am used to eclipse 3.2 RC-x.  I haven't upgrades in a  while; 20071103/eclipse-jee-europa-fall2-linux-gtk.tar.gz  is this version worth using or should I stay away.  I want eclipse to work, not so much a bunch of junk that will make it unstable
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[23:13:41] <rcjsuen> blbrown: should be fine
[23:13:47] <rcjsuen> it is odd that you are using an rc build though
[23:13:58] <rcjsuen> i would've at least expected you to be using 3.2.2 or something
[23:14:04] <blbrown> rcjsuen, why; it is probably 2 years old, very stable
[23:14:45] <rcjsuen> blbrown: well, rc is a release candidate, the final release builds would likely be more stable, if you catch my drift
[23:15:08] <rcjsuen> and 3.2.1 and 3.2.2 are maintenance bug fix releases for 3.2.0, so it seemed natural for you to upgrade along that line
[23:15:15] <rcjsuen> but instead you say you are using a release candidate for 3.2.0
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[23:28:38] <gniii> is there a special channel for cdt that i should know about (but haven't found obviously :P)?
[23:31:30] <rcjsuen> gniii:
[23:31:31] <rcjsuen> gniii: No
[23:31:45] <rcjsuen> gniii: CDT questions go here or the CDT newsgroup.
[23:31:49] <rcjsuen> ~cdt-fa
[23:31:50] <rcjsuen> ~cdt-faq
[23:31:51] <KOS-MOS> Looking for all of the answers related to CDT, or just most of them?  Check out the mighty CDT-FAQ (http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT/User/FAQ).
[23:33:22] <gniii> well then i'll ask; in the 4.0.3 nightly build, there's a documentation something, that also hooks on hover; but a) it doesn't seem to work b) it's re-enabled each time on startup; any clue?
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[23:34:29] <rcjsuen> check bugzilla
[23:34:45] <gniii> did, only found the implementation bug report but got no clue
[23:35:10] <gniii> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=205030
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[23:35:22] <bobbytech> hey all
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[23:35:29] <rcjsuen> bobbytech: hi
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[23:36:22] <bobbytech> is there a way to install dependencies into a local maven repository from eclipse?  ie., jars that don't reside in a public repo
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[23:46:12] <rcjsuen> gniii: might want to file your own then
[23:47:36] <gniii> rcjsuen: it seems wrong to file a PR because of own cluelessness but... :)
[23:47:44] <rcjsuen> PR?
[23:48:01] <rcjsuen> gniii: If you think you're using it wrong, try the CDT newsgroup then.
[23:48:54] <gniii> rcjsuen: PR/bug report; and ah yes, the newgroup.
[23:49:18] <rcjsuen> gniii: I mean, what does PR stand for
[23:49:55] <gniii> Problem Report, that's bugzilla terminology i think
[23:50:37] <rcjsuen> ah
[23:50:48] <rcjsuen> Really? hm, never heard of it on bugzilla
[23:51:32] <rcjsuen> oh well
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[23:53:27] <Joeseph> Hello I am attempting to add jython support to eclipse.  I have already set up Python flawlessly.   THere is an error message about an invalid interpreter, and more details show that it can't find the ReadLineLibrary
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[23:58:37] <Joeseph> any ideas?
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