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[02:33:22] *** Zack1403 has quit IRC [02:33:38] <aswera> I say in Pref>Java>Code Style>Edit...>Comments that max line width for comments is 80 [02:34:04] <aswera> but it doesn't seem to happen b/c when i type comments, they just keep going [02:42:43] *** mohbana has joined #eclipse [02:51:50] *** deng_c has joined #eclipse [02:55:51] *** n_np has quit IRC [02:59:25] *** ekiczek has joined #eclipse [03:07:09] *** agramirez has joined #eclipse [03:11:54] <nitind> aswera: None of the editors autowrap in that way, the formatting preferences apply when you invoke the Format action. 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[03:52:01] *** ekiczek has quit IRC [03:52:02] *** tltstc has quit IRC [03:56:05] *** Infinito_ has joined #eclipse [04:00:27] *** robinr has joined #eclipse [04:03:10] *** Zack1403 has quit IRC [04:03:14] *** [1]Zack1403 has joined #eclipse [04:08:41] <rcjsuen> eidolon: file bugs or ask on webtools newsgroups [04:08:58] <rcjsuen> grom358: what jre [04:09:20] <rcjsuen> specifically, what version [04:10:17] *** ekuleshov_ has joined #eclipse [04:10:38] *** robinr has quit IRC [04:13:48] *** mohbana has quit IRC [04:18:31] *** juacom04 has quit IRC [04:28:49] *** ekuleshov has quit IRC [04:30:16] *** Infinito_ has quit IRC [04:32:08] <nitind> eidolon: Where are you stuck? [04:36:04] *** [1]Zack1403 has quit IRC [04:37:18] *** ekiczek has joined #eclipse [04:37:23] *** pandaren has joined #eclipse [04:41:32] *** ekuleshov__ has joined #eclipse [04:54:13] *** eelriver has joined #eclipse [05:00:00] *** ekuleshov_ has quit IRC [05:07:54] <grom358> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_04-b12) [05:07:54] <grom358> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 10.0-b19, mixed mode) [05:08:17] <rcjsuen> grom358: Use a 1.5 JRE, or try 1.6.0.03. [05:08:36] <grom358> oh.. is it a known bug? [05:08:44] <rcjsuen> ~tell grom358 about 214092 [05:08:45] <KOS-MOS> grom358: Bug 214092 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=214092 - Platform / Resources / 3.3.1 - PC / Linux - RESOLVED / NOT_ECLIPSE / major / - Assignee:platform-resources-inbox at eclipse dot org - regular JVM crash in org.eclipse.core.internal.dtree.DataTreeNode.forwardDeltaWith [05:08:49] <rcjsuen> ~tell grom358 about 218734 [05:08:50] <KOS-MOS> grom358: Bug 218734 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=218734 - JDT / UI / 3.3.1 - PC / Linux - RESOLVED / DUPLICATE / normal / - Assignee:jdt-ui-inbox at eclipse dot org - Eclipse self-destructs when removing things from a project in Package Explorer view [05:10:33] <grom358> rcjsuen: thanks.. It has been driving me insane [05:14:37] <grom358> so from reading that I take it is just linux? cause I haven't had the problem on windows [05:16:10] <grom358> mmm.. where to find 1.6.0.03 seems I deleted it after downloading 1.6.0.04 the other week [05:23:34] <rcjsuen> grom358: you could get a 1.5.0.x one [05:24:32] <grom358> someone just gave me link to it [05:25:23] <rcjsuen> ok [05:25:47] <grom358> in case anyone else needs to know http://java.sun.com/products/archive/ [05:27:33] *** dobblego has joined #eclipse [05:27:43] <dobblego> how do I find the version in an eclipse directory? [05:27:55] <rcjsuen> dobblego: The version of Eclipse? [05:28:00] <dobblego> yes [05:28:21] <rcjsuen> eclipse/configuration/config.ini [05:28:26] <rcjsuen> that tells you the build id anyway [05:28:34] <rcjsuen> which is usually good enough [05:28:39] <dobblego> M20071023-1652 [05:28:58] <rcjsuen> That's 3.3.1.1. [05:29:02] <dobblego> ok thanks [05:29:04] <rcjsuen> Why do you ask? [05:29:15] <dobblego> because I wasn't sure if I needed to download a new version to update [05:29:23] <rcjsuen> dobblego: Help > About Eclipse SDK [05:29:26] <rcjsuen> the version is right there [05:29:37] <dobblego> oh [05:29:46] <dobblego> well duh, thanks :) [05:29:49] <rcjsuen> I thought you couldn't start Eclipse so you were wondering. [05:30:15] <dobblego> no, I was just being unnecessarily crude [05:33:01] *** the_giver has joined #eclipse [05:33:17] <the_giver> is there anyway to do split view on the same file i'm viewing (like in ms word?) [05:34:15] <rcjsuen> the_giver: You can right-click on the tab and select 'New Editor' and drag it around. [05:34:19] <rcjsuen> But that doesn't really count I guess. [05:41:43] *** the_giver has quit IRC [05:42:32] *** agramirez has quit IRC [05:45:09] *** atomis has quit IRC [05:46:41] <dobblego> thanks again [05:46:43] *** dobblego has left #eclipse [05:54:45] *** grom358 has quit IRC [06:05:16] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC [06:05:29] *** ekiczek has quit IRC [06:10:13] *** aramirez has joined #eclipse [06:15:07] *** njbartlett has quit IRC [06:17:13] *** buhawi has quit IRC [06:20:58] *** pandaren has quit IRC [06:31:28] *** buhawi has joined #eclipse [06:37:59] *** jprieur has quit IRC [06:43:48] *** ekiczek has joined #eclipse [06:50:17] *** aramirez has quit IRC [06:58:38] *** AlNor has quit IRC [07:07:35] *** Weng has quit IRC [07:13:13] *** nickboldt has joined #eclipse [07:19:26] *** Zack1403 has joined #eclipse [07:25:23] *** geo-axis has joined #eclipse [07:29:08] *** geo-axis has quit IRC [07:29:09] *** Zack1403 has quit IRC [07:29:19] *** Zack1403 has joined #eclipse [07:36:00] *** atomis has joined #eclipse [07:42:38] *** soulreaper has joined #eclipse [07:46:54] *** robinr has joined #eclipse [07:49:56] *** robinr has quit IRC [07:56:02] *** mhaller has joined #eclipse [07:56:15] *** patrin70 has joined #eclipse [07:56:19] *** pump has joined #eclipse [08:02:07] *** soulreaper has quit IRC [08:03:04] <pump> I am using Eclipse CDT under Windows Vista, using MinGW as my compiler. There seems to be a problem with the linker, it complains that it cannot find crt2.o. I have added the path to MinGW\lib to the linker's library path, as well as in several other places, but it does no good. Any thoughts on how to resolve this error? [08:05:20] <nickboldt> AFAIK there aren't a lot of CDT folks in here, but you could try the CDT newsgroup or mailing list for support [08:08:06] <pump> Well, if anyone _does_ use CDT and has a thought, don't hesitate to shout out. [08:09:39] *** pump is now known as pump^ [08:09:42] *** buhawi__ has joined #eclipse [08:14:54] *** mhaller has quit IRC [08:19:51] *** buhawi has quit IRC [08:21:29] *** exst_mhua has quit IRC [08:21:59] *** philk_ has joined #eclipse [08:30:52] *** exst_mhua has joined #eclipse [08:35:20] *** jbosmans has quit IRC [08:35:55] *** omry has joined #eclipse [08:36:12] *** igo_i has joined #eclipse [08:40:01] *** philk__ has quit IRC [08:41:34] *** atomis has joined #eclipse [08:42:17] *** david720 has joined #eclipse [08:42:27] *** atomis has quit IRC [08:42:58] *** atomis has joined #eclipse [08:45:31] *** nethen has joined #eclipse [08:45:36] <nethen> hello [08:46:28] *** nialp has joined #eclipse [08:53:53] *** dengski has joined #eclipse [08:54:17] *** dengski has quit IRC [08:54:23] *** deng_c has quit IRC [08:54:26] *** Cheops` has joined #eclipse [08:55:46] *** robinr has joined #eclipse [09:04:09] <nethen> is there a way to quick to go foobar.java in package org.nethen.package1.subpkg2... , just typing by just clicking a button and writting "foo", without having to navigate all the tree in the project explorer? [09:04:53] *** deng_c has joined #eclipse [09:08:15] <nethen> found it :) for the log: http://www.muermann.org/gotofile/ [09:10:03] *** robinr has quit IRC [09:13:05] *** robinr has joined #eclipse [09:13:21] *** mhaller has joined #eclipse [09:25:35] *** Tortoose has joined #eclipse [09:25:49] *** sama has joined #eclipse [09:29:25] *** fsteeg has joined #eclipse [09:34:24] *** nerdboy is now known as nerdboy|off [09:36:17] <nitind> nethen: You mean the Open Resource (Ctrl+Shift+R) and Open Type (Ctrl+Shift+T) actions? [09:37:00] *** unomystEz has joined #eclipse [09:37:01] <unomystEz> hi all! [09:37:26] <unomystEz> can anyone recommend a good (X)HTML editor for eclipse? [09:37:31] <unomystEz> not a WYSIWYG [09:40:33] <nitind> What have you tried so far? There's one in the Europa for Java EE package. [09:43:21] <patrin70> Hi all, I have a probably silly question about the SWT Text control [09:43:54] *** dmiles has joined #eclipse [09:44:05] <patrin70> I would prevent user from typing into the control, like when the control is disabled using SWT.READ_ONLY style [09:44:19] <patrin70> but I would like to have the control display like an enabled one [09:44:39] <patrin70> do you know if there is some trick to get this ? [09:44:44] *** dmiles_afk has quit IRC [09:50:57] *** mhaller has quit IRC [10:09:14] *** fsteeg has quit IRC [10:12:52] *** z4z4 has joined #eclipse [10:27:50] *** pump^ has quit IRC [10:27:51] *** eilartt has joined #eclipse [10:31:05] *** nethen has quit IRC [10:36:15] *** rorUnni has joined #eclipse [10:37:34] *** gromgull has joined #eclipse [10:41:07] <gromgull> Is there a way I can export a product using the plugins in the target platform rather than checking them all out in the workspace? [10:42:41] <eilartt> isn't mylin included in 3.4M5 ? 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[10:50:43] <klopfdreh> BundleContext.getBundles() [10:50:46] <klopfdreh> thanks ^^ [10:53:39] *** Carnage\ has joined #eclipse [10:55:33] *** kdaniel has joined #eclipse [10:57:15] *** Zack1403 has quit IRC [10:57:37] *** stou has quit IRC [10:59:54] *** acuster has joined #eclipse [11:00:56] *** Cheops` has quit IRC [11:00:57] *** david720 has quit IRC [11:00:58] *** nitind has quit IRC [11:00:58] *** SNy has quit IRC [11:00:58] *** Midtronic|School has quit IRC [11:01:00] *** rgould has quit IRC [11:01:48] *** rgould has joined #eclipse [11:01:49] *** pschriner has joined #Eclipse [11:02:15] *** beefy has joined #eclipse [11:02:31] *** Midtronic|School has joined #eclipse [11:02:44] <beefy> hey everyone [11:02:49] *** Tortoose_ has joined #eclipse [11:04:39] <beefy> #osgi seems to be pretty dead, so i'll just try my luck here.. i managed to get static content and a servlet running on jetty/the osgi framework. so when i run the project, first of all the equinox shell comes up, allowing me to list the installed bundles etc., and also jetty starts and listens on localhost. browsing to the pages is possible and everything works fine. [11:05:39] <beefy> here's my problem: i want the running eclipse workbench to do something, when i run a specific servlet through my webbrowser. i.e., i click on a link in my browser (which leads to localhost), and i want eclipse to, for example, show some wizard, or whatever [11:05:50] <beefy> the problem is that i can't do that directly, cause i'm in a non-UI thread [11:06:11] <beefy> i found out about syncExec() and asyncExec(), but they don't do shit ;) [11:06:47] <beefy> is it, in theory, possible to get the active workbench object and do something with it, out of a servlet running in an osgi bundle, accesses through a browser? 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[11:09:22] <eilartt> Could not create view: org.eclipse.mylyn.tasks.ui.views.tasks [11:09:22] <eilartt> Could not create view: org.eclipse.mylyn.tasks.ui.views.tasks [11:09:22] <eilartt> Could not find view: org.eclipse.mylyn.tasks.ui.views.tasks [11:09:49] <eilartt> and actually i have no mylin views [11:10:35] <kdaniel> I am not sure if Mylyn is packaged with M5 [11:10:57] <kdaniel> try to run 'install and update', search for new features and look for Mylyn [11:11:01] <eilartt> ok [11:11:09] <kdaniel> then you should have Mylyn provided [11:11:24] <kdaniel> please let me know if it helped you [11:12:21] <eilartt> do you think it is in Ganymede Discovery Site or it will have some site on his own? [11:12:35] <kdaniel> AFAIK ganymede works for m5 [11:12:38] <kdaniel> just try [11:14:59] *** Tortoose has quit IRC [11:17:51] <eilartt> seems that a lot of packages of gantymede have broken liniks [11:18:09] <eilartt> Server returned HTTP response code: "404 Not Found" for URL: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/updates/3.4. [11:18:16] <eilartt> anyway, i have found mylin [11:18:50] <eilartt> now i donwload [11:20:08] *** Aleph_One has joined #eclipse [11:27:47] <eilartt> kdaniel: ok, i've mylin working now [11:35:05] *** jprieur has joined #eclipse [11:36:31] *** acuster has quit IRC [11:42:50] <gromgull> now my app wont even start: org.osgi.framework.BundleException: The bundle could not be resolved. Reason: Missing Constraint: Require-Bundle: org.eclipse.core.runtime; bundle-version="0.0.0" ... although core.runtime is in the target platform... [11:43:21] *** deng_c has quit IRC [11:46:07] *** SpektoM_ has joined #eclipse [11:52:08] *** david721 has joined #eclipse [11:52:09] *** david720 has quit IRC [11:53:09] *** rorUnni has quit IRC [12:03:37] *** Adrenalin` has quit IRC [12:03:52] *** Adrenalin` has joined #eclipse [12:03:53] *** SpektoM has quit IRC [12:07:44] <philk_> I know the recommended way of naming your bundles is to use the vendors web address in reverse form. Are there any pro or cons of naming them otherwise? I followed the rule and named the packages inside the bundle also like the bundle id so far. [12:10:23] *** paulweb515 has quit IRC [12:11:26] *** GUIs-R-Me_ has quit IRC [12:17:03] <eilartt> it seems that in m5 filters in package explorer do not work [12:17:33] *** eilartt has quit IRC [12:20:00] *** eilartt has joined #eclipse [12:21:56] *** klopfdreh has quit IRC [12:23:33] *** buhawi__ has quit IRC [12:35:54] *** ewet has joined #eclipse [12:37:11] *** igo_i has quit IRC [12:46:23] *** klopfdreh has joined #eclipse [12:52:20] *** veleno has joined #eclipse [12:53:07] *** mhaller has joined #eclipse [12:57:34] *** pandaren has joined #eclipse [13:06:14] *** jorgenpt has joined #eclipse [13:06:29] <jorgenpt> Is there any tool to aid in writing javadoc for all methods that have no javadoc? [13:06:51] <jorgenpt> E.g. something that jumps from method to method, showing you the method, it's prototype, and giving you fields where you can enter descriptions of the method, retval and params. [13:13:55] <philk_> how can i make the splashscreen visible as push button in the windows taskbar? [13:14:41] *** Pookzilla has joined #eclipse [13:27:06] *** Cheops` has quit IRC [13:27:31] *** Cheops` has joined #eclipse [13:34:34] *** misreckoning has joined #eclipse [13:36:45] <z4z4> jorgenpt: haven't heard of it. but you could probably use a filter in the Problems view to show you only javadocs warnings [13:37:00] *** philk__ has joined #eclipse [13:37:01] <z4z4> then you could fix them one by one [13:37:08] <robinr> jorgenpt: set compiler options for javadoc to error, then use quickfix to get templates [13:38:36] <z4z4> you don't have to necessarily set them to error but templetes may be useful [13:38:39] <z4z4> ;) [13:43:15] <misreckoning> why accelerators don't work on POP_UP menus and how can I make them work? [13:45:47] *** rcjsuen has joined #eclipse [13:48:41] <misreckoning> anybody? :) [13:49:44] <rcjsuen> misreckoning: Five minutes isn't a lot of time. [13:50:49] <misreckoning> rcjsuen: well yes, I'm fighting this problem for 3 hours :P [13:50:54] <rcjsuen> patrin70: can't yo uset the Text to be disabled? [13:51:02] <rcjsuen> patrin70: or just use a VerifyListener and prevent all keys [13:52:29] <rcjsuen> eilartt: Then file a bug if that's what you're seeing. [13:52:51] <rcjsuen> misreckoning: What did you mean by POP_UP? [13:53:12] <misreckoning> rcjsuen: new Menu (shell, SWT.POP_UP) [13:53:35] <rcjsuen> So what are you trying to do now? [13:53:38] <misreckoning> and any MenuItem under that popup menu doesn't support accelerators [13:53:46] <rcjsuen> You want Alt+G to be like right-clicking on your Shell? [13:53:50] <rcjsuen> Oh? [13:53:58] <misreckoning> really [13:54:13] <misreckoning> I will paste it, just a second [13:54:17] *** ewet has quit IRC [13:54:24] <rcjsuen> Well, considering that one can see accelerators in popups that does appear in the Eclipse workbench, that is certainly a rather odd behaviour. [13:54:58] *** philk_ has quit IRC [13:55:23] *** dsugar100 has joined #eclipse [13:55:26] *** philk_ has joined #eclipse [13:56:08] <misreckoning> I agree [13:56:11] <misreckoning> here is the code [13:56:12] <misreckoning> http://eugeneciurana.com/pastebin/pastebin.php?show=11726 [13:57:04] <misreckoning> I've noticed this before when working with JFace (still outside of Eclipse platform) where MenuManager.createMenu *displayed* the accelerators well, but again they didn't worked [13:58:26] *** paulweb515 has joined #eclipse [14:00:20] <paulweb515> beefy: do you have an eclipse instance talk to? Or you need to launch eclipse and have it do something? [14:01:52] <philk_> how do I modify an OSGi services properties while this service is being tracked? [14:01:58] <beefy> i have my whole project running in eclipse already .. i wrote the code and started the whole thing using the "OSGi framework" configuration [14:02:13] <beefy> so that the equinox shell is shown in the console, where i can list the running bundles, etc... [14:02:24] <beefy> also, jetty says hello when it starts up [14:03:07] <beefy> so there is an instance of eclipse, within which the equinox and, on top, jetty and my servlet are running [14:03:21] *** MicW has joined #ECLIPSE [14:03:25] <MicW> hi [14:03:25] *** netoman has joined #eclipse [14:04:13] <rcjsuen> MicW: Hi [14:04:36] <MicW> i have a wtp dynamic web project which uses a java project as j2ee dependency. all jars from that project are exported to the web projects webinf/lib. now i try to add a new jar to the java project with abolutely no effect to the webinf/lib [14:04:49] *** eilartt has left #eclipse [14:05:16] <MicW> i think, libraries which are exported correctly are the "ear libraries" of the java project [14:05:24] <MicW> but i cannot add the other libraries there [14:05:27] <MicW> how can i do this? [14:05:35] *** Adrenalin` has quit IRC [14:05:37] <rcjsuen> misreckoning: It might be that there is no accelerator support for popups. [14:05:50] <misreckoning> rcjsuen: good morning :) (no offence!) [14:05:51] *** Adrenalin` has joined #eclipse [14:05:54] <rcjsuen> misreckoning: Your Ctrl+C works, but your Ctrl+V doesn't. [14:06:00] <misreckoning> rcjsuen: right :) [14:06:12] <misreckoning> surely there is some "workaround" [14:06:22] <rcjsuen> To make it work? [14:06:26] <misreckoning> yes [14:06:34] *** philk__ has quit IRC [14:06:41] <rcjsuen> I suspect the platform is handling key bindings and bringing up the popup menu by itself. [14:06:50] <rcjsuen> Unless you want to set a global key listener. [14:07:01] <misreckoning> well something like that [14:07:24] <misreckoning> since I don't use the platform (yet, but I will, one beautiful day) [14:08:11] <misreckoning> probably the smartest thing is to add a toolbar with same accelerators [14:08:24] <misreckoning> and I hope toolbar buttons will "catch" the events [14:13:52] <philk_> how can i make the splashscreen visible as push button in the windows taskbar? [14:15:03] <rcjsuen> philk_: What do you exactly mean? [14:15:34] *** ewet has joined #eclipse [14:15:35] <gromgull> why why oh why does the application crash with The bundle could not be resolved. Reason: Missing Constraint: Require-Bundle: org.eclipse.core.runtime; bundle-version="0.0.0" - when this is clearly in the target platform? [14:15:57] *** ewet has quit IRC [14:16:02] <rcjsuen> gromgull: What is this? A plug-in? RCP? Equinox launch config? [14:16:10] <gromgull> An RCP application [14:16:36] <gromgull> i changed the product from being based on a single feature - listing all our plugins - to being plugin-based, and just listing all the plugins directly in the product config [14:16:40] <rcjsuen> gromgull: I'd try making a new launch config from start [14:16:41] <gromgull> and now it doesn't start any more :) [14:16:44] <philk_> rjsuen: I mean when the splash is visible and I want the user to enter login credentials there is no button in the windows taskbar to activate the splash window once it has been hidden behind another toplevel window. [14:16:49] <gromgull> I've tried that [14:16:49] *** ewet has joined #eclipse [14:17:04] <rcjsuen> philk_: Oh, I think I see what you're saying now. [14:17:34] <rcjsuen> I thought it shows up when the splash comes up, maybe I'm wrong. [14:17:44] *** timothym has joined #eclipse [14:17:55] <rcjsuen> gromgull: Do you have -consoleLog? [14:18:39] <gromgull> no, but I can try - just add as a program argument? [14:19:02] <philk_> rcjsuen: unfortunatly the button on the taskbar comes only up for top level windows. I am trying to find a way to make the Shell that handles the splash screen a toplevel window, but it seems there is no way to do that [14:19:28] <rcjsuen> gromgull: Yes. [14:19:59] <rcjsuen> philk_: Well, I see something on Linux anyway, when the Eclipse splash screen is up. [14:21:26] *** ewet has quit IRC [14:21:39] <philk_> rcjsuen: hmmm not so on windows unfortunatly. [14:28:04] <rcjsuen> philk_: you might want to ask Pookzilla [14:29:05] *** philk__ has joined #eclipse [14:29:44] *** TodC has joined #eclipse [14:31:13] <gromgull> weird - adding org.eclipse.text and the eclipse.update plugins to the config made it work [14:31:54] <rcjsuen> gromgull: If you remove them, and then click the Validate button, does it work? [14:32:02] <rcjsuen> sorry, I mean, what does the dialog say [14:32:04] <gromgull> it validates [14:32:19] <rcjsuen> ah [14:32:48] <gromgull> but it validated before as well - although it didn't start [14:33:09] <rcjsuen> hm [14:35:49] <paulweb515> beefy: your OSGi application is running from eclipse (i.e. using a launch config) or running in eclipse (i.e. your current eclipse instance is running it through views, editors, etc) [14:38:05] <gromgull> Is there some way of viewing all extensions to some extention point? [14:40:12] *** mindCrime has quit IRC [14:42:09] *** AhtiK has joined #eclipse [14:43:51] <paulweb515> gromgull: the Plug-in Registry view [14:45:45] *** philk_ has quit IRC [14:46:14] <beefy> paulweb515: my OSGi bundle is running using a launch configuration [14:48:47] <paulweb515> beefy: OK, that means your OSGI can't see any eclipse ... you have 2 choices [14:49:49] <paulweb515> beefy: either run an eclipse instance from your OSGi application (you can call createAndRunWorkbench(*), but it will create a UI and workbench window) or have an eclipse instance running with a small server of some kind that you can connect to so you can issue commands [14:53:29] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC [14:56:28] *** fsteeg has joined #eclipse [14:57:50] *** netoman has quit IRC [14:59:40] <beefy> paulweb515: choice 1 would mean that i have to start the OSGi framework in another way beforehand, which would not be that handy for the users... so it'd rather be choice 2 then. but what do you mean with that small server of some kind? :) are you still talking about OSGi bundles (and jetty and servlets..) or do you mean to have a simple tcp listening server? [14:59:55] *** eelriver has quit IRC [15:00:06] *** DirtyD has joined #eclipse [15:00:07] <beefy> paulweb515: and again, why would that server be able to see the eclipse instance together with its workbench object etc.? [15:00:19] <beefy> paulweb515: (by the way, thanks a lot for your help, i appreciate it!) [15:01:13] *** Zack1403 has joined #eclipse [15:01:16] *** Keelhaul has joined #eclipse [15:02:49] *** sama has quit IRC [15:10:58] <gromgull> I see that eclipse itself has it's product defined in a plugin.xml, but mine is in a .product file ... does this make a difference when exporting the app? [15:14:23] *** ewet has joined #eclipse [15:18:03] <philk__> gromgull: the product file will update your plugin.xml. Its just a handy way to edit product settings. You do not need to export it [15:20:52] <gromgull> ah right - so this is what the "synchronize settings" button does! [15:20:53] <gromgull> aha [15:20:56] <gromgull> it is all clear now :) [15:21:34] *** Cheops` has quit IRC [15:22:02] *** Cheops` has joined #eclipse [15:24:01] *** emantos has quit IRC [15:24:48] *** ijuma has quit IRC [15:25:46] *** ekiczek has quit IRC [15:26:46] *** amitev has joined #eclipse [15:26:50] *** erik2 has quit IRC [15:26:52] *** ijuma has joined #eclipse [15:29:50] *** erik2 has joined #eclipse [15:29:52] *** DirtyD has quit IRC [15:29:57] *** rcjsuen has joined #eclipse [15:30:01] *** tobias__ has joined #eclipse [15:31:35] *** ijuma has quit IRC [15:32:10] *** ijuma has joined #eclipse [15:33:14] <paulweb515> beefy: well, you can run eclipse *and* OSGi at the same time in one application ... just launch eclipse and have it start your OSGi bundles, or launch eclipse with a configuration that includes the OSGi bundles in its config.ini/osgi.bundles line [15:33:48] <paulweb515> beefy: and yes, I was suggesting a simple tcp server (at first, anyway) [15:34:31] *** jorgenpt has left #eclipse [15:35:14] *** lon___ has joined #eclipse [15:35:33] <lon___> hi all... anyone here using eclipse 3.4 ? [15:35:42] <lon___> i'm having trouble with remote debugging [15:35:48] *** cepal has joined #eclipse [15:35:48] *** misreckoning has left #eclipse [15:36:08] <rcjsuen> lon___: Ask the real question. [15:36:53] *** ewet has quit IRC [15:37:05] <lon___> when i try to start the remote debugger in Eclipse 3.4 M5 connecting to tomcat 6, I get an error DIalog title: "Problem Occured" Message: "Failed to connect to remote VM" "Network is down: create" [15:37:49] <lon___> tomcat is running with jdpa enabled, transport dt_socket, address:localhost:8000, server=y,suspend=n plus Xdebug, etc. [15:38:10] <lon___> the eclipse debug config is standard socket attached, host: localhost, port: 8000 [15:38:38] <lon___> everything is running on the my local machine, windows vista 64 [15:38:49] <lon___> jdk 5.0 64-bit [15:39:24] *** klopfdreh has quit IRC [15:39:28] <lon___> i've been hunting the problem for two days and am at a total loss [15:41:43] <rcjsuen> lon___: And I guess this worked on M4? [15:42:27] <lon___> I had not tried in M4 on this machine. I have used M4 on my 32 bit xp install (diff machine) where it worked fine [15:43:52] <lon___> oh, also, i have no firewall running on this machine [15:43:55] <rcjsuen> lon___: Wel, you might want to try m4 [15:43:59] <rcjsuen> lon___: or check bugzilla [15:45:20] *** TheLittlePrince has quit IRC [15:46:17] <beefy> paulweb515: that probably is the problem, that i don't have eclipse and my OSGi bundles running at the same time in the same application .. i'll try to look into that, thanks [15:46:40] <lon___> i checked bugzilla, and didn't see anything like this [15:47:27] <lon___> i will log it [15:47:44] <rcjsuen> lon___: Thank you [15:48:18] *** Infinito_ has joined #eclipse [15:50:12] *** discodan has joined #eclipse [15:50:54] <lon___> rcjsuen: do you think it makes sense to try debugging via TPTP before rolling back to M4? [15:51:24] * rcjsuen shrugs. [15:51:30] <rcjsuen> I don't use Tomcat or tptp [15:53:11] *** tobiash has quit IRC [15:53:47] *** eelriver has joined #eclipse [15:54:23] *** tobiash has joined #eclipse [15:55:44] *** Hisamu has joined #eclipse [16:00:43] *** ekiczek has joined #eclipse [16:00:47] *** krbarnes has joined #eclipse [16:03:16] *** Tortoose_ is now known as Tortoose [16:03:35] <patrin70> Hi all [16:03:50] <lon___> hi [16:03:53] <patrin70> I'm experiencing a refresh problem with the reosurces in the workspace [16:04:21] <patrin70> I have a multipage form editor which updates an XML file [16:04:24] *** lord_nikon has joined #eclipse [16:04:48] <patrin70> when I save the changes and I try to open the same XML file with a text editor [16:05:09] <lord_nikon> i have a strange problem, yesterday for some reason eclipse started running like total trash. There is a lot of lag when typeing, and changing tabs [16:05:19] <patrin70> the workbench say that the resource on the filesystem is out of synch with the workspace [16:05:21] <lord_nikon> anyone have any idea what might be causing this, or more importantly how i can fix it? [16:05:33] *** HuggyBear has joined #eclipse [16:05:34] <patrin70> and ask me if I want to load the changes [16:05:42] <lon___> lord_nikon: have you started with a "-clean"? [16:06:02] <patrin70> do you know haw I can force a refresh of the workspace immediately after saving the changes to the file ? [16:06:12] <rcjsuen> lord_nikon: check your ~logs [16:06:12] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F [16:06:18] <lord_nikon> lon___, negitive, i will do that now [16:06:21] <nitind> patrin70: Are you saving the file using IFile interfaces or writing to the java.io.File directly? [16:07:35] <patrin70> well, I use the EMF serialization [16:07:54] <patrin70> so mayby I'm using java.io.File under the cover [16:08:16] <rcjsuen> Probably. [16:08:21] <lord_nikon> lon___, same thing is happening :( [16:08:24] <nitind> patrin70: Well, that's why, then. [16:08:55] <lon___> lord_nikon: did you install any new plugins or run an update? [16:09:24] <lord_nikon> no [16:09:27] <lord_nikon> thats the strange thing [16:09:28] <patrin70> it it possible to refresh the stale workspace resources programmatically ? [16:09:38] <rcjsuen> patrin70: yes [16:09:41] <rcjsuen> ~api IResource [16:09:42] <KOS-MOS> No javadocs found for class {0}. [16:09:43] <nitind> patrin70: Yes, using the IFile interface. [16:09:45] <rcjsuen> patrin70: look for the refresh method [16:09:46] <lord_nikon> as far as i know nothing has been changed [16:09:51] <rcjsuen> oh my what's going on [16:10:15] <rcjsuen> patrin70: You _are_ opening workspace resources, right? [16:11:00] * nitind has no idea how well EMF does or does not play with resources in the workspace sense [16:11:01] *** ajt_ has joined #eclipse [16:11:05] *** ajt has quit IRC [16:11:05] *** ajt_ has quit IRC [16:11:16] <lon___> lord_nikon: to try to eliminate reasons, perhaps try increasing available memory and/or maxpermsize for eclipse [16:11:29] <rcjsuen> lord_nikon: Anything in your logs? [16:11:35] <patrin70> yes, my multipage editor is opened from a resource in the workspace [16:11:55] <lord_nikon> rcjsuen, what log shuld i be looking at [16:12:00] *** ajt has joined #eclipse [16:12:07] <rcjsuen> lord_nikon: workspace logs, see above [16:12:42] <rcjsuen> patrin70: you can use IResource's refresh method (which IFile) extends that nitind was talking about then [16:13:01] <patrin70> but who should be responsible to invoke the refreshLocal(int, IProgressMonitor) ? [16:13:07] <patrin70> the editor? [16:13:25] <eidolon> nnnggggg. XML editor is using hte Design / Source preview thign again. [16:13:34] <eidolon> i thought that was an Ameritas setting... how do i turn off the design view? [16:13:37] <rcjsuen> patrin70: probably, your editor is the one that's making changes [16:13:41] <eidolon> or howeer it's spelt. [16:13:58] <rcjsuen> eidolon: Design / Source is inherent in WST's XML editor, I don't think you can just turn it off. [16:14:10] <eidolon> bleah. [16:14:14] <lord_nikon> rcjsuen, nothing out of the ordinary in the logs [16:14:15] *** gromgull has left #eclipse [16:14:17] <nitind> Hell no you can't turn it off. But it does remember the last page you used and open to that one by default. [16:14:32] <eidolon> nitind: why can't you turn it off? it's an abomination in interface design. [16:14:51] <rcjsuen> lord_nikon: try running Eclipse on a fresh workspace [16:15:09] <rcjsuen> eidolon: If you have problems with the UI, file enhancement requests to suggest changes. [16:15:15] <eidolon> i have. [16:15:29] <eidolon> iv'e been complaining about this particular interface idiocy for almost a year. [16:15:40] <eidolon> (the specific is that design/source intercepts control-pgup and control-pgdn. [16:15:51] <eidolon> therefore if you're scrolling through yoru source tabs, you -must- reach for the mouse to get out of the XML editor. [16:15:53] <rcjsuen> that's not wst's problem [16:16:09] <eidolon> i'm sorry? then whose is it? [16:16:20] <rcjsuen> that's at the Platform level [16:16:24] <lord_nikon> rcjsuen, same problem with different workspaces [16:16:31] <nitind> It's a problem common to all multi-page editors that hasn't been changed in the platform. [16:16:32] <rcjsuen> There's Ctrl+F6 and Ctrl+Shift+F6, but not really the same. [16:16:51] <rcjsuen> lord_nikon: Try extracting a fresh Eclipse and see if you have problems there then. [16:17:02] <rcjsuen> lord_nikon: like lon___ said, there could be a bajillion variables [16:17:03] <eidolon> so the answer here is "It's a problem. E veyrone knows it's a problem. But no one is fixing it." ? [16:17:07] <rcjsuen> lord_nikon: What OS are you on? [16:17:16] <patrin70> perfect! it works [16:17:25] <patrin70> I put getResource().refreshLocal(IResource.DEPTH_ONE, new NullProgressMonitor()); [16:17:28] *** ewet has joined #eclipse [16:17:35] *** lord_nikon has quit IRC [16:17:38] <nitind> eidolon: You're in the set of people that aren't fixing it. But if you have issues with the Design page that I *can* address, open those. [16:17:41] <patrin70> immediately after the point where the file is saved [16:17:44] <rcjsuen> eidolon: AFAIK, the Platform team currently has no plans to alter this behaviour. If you want to make a patch, they'll look into it. [16:17:56] <eidolon> so i guess the other question is how do i tell the XML edit function to not use that particular editor? [16:18:05] <patrin70> thanks to everybody for the help! [16:18:10] *** lord_nikon has joined #eclipse [16:18:19] <rcjsuen> eidolon: You could right-click, Open With > [16:18:26] *** ewet has quit IRC [16:18:49] <nitind> eidolon: And also add *.xml to the File Associations preference page and set something else as the default. [16:18:55] <eidolon> that worked, that's a functioanl workaraound. can i set up this behaviour as a de... yeah, that. [16:19:02] <rcjsuen> where's that MPE bug [16:19:16] *** lon___ has left #eclipse [16:19:18] *** ewet has joined #eclipse [16:19:30] <rcjsuen> ~199499 [16:19:31] <KOS-MOS> Bug 199499 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=199499 - Platform / UI / 3.3 - All / All - NEW / normal / - Assignee:Kevin_McGuire at ca dot ibm.com - Switching tabs by Ctrl+PageUp/PageDown must not be caught on the inner tab set [16:19:31] <rcjsuen> There we go. [16:19:49] * eidolon clix [16:19:51] *** Izak has joined #eclipse [16:21:05] *** ewet has quit IRC [16:21:12] *** Carnage\ has quit IRC [16:22:22] *** ewet has joined #eclipse [16:23:10] <eidolon> *nod* that bug :) looksl ike it hasnt' really been moved forward, alas. [16:23:27] <rcjsuen> Feel free to help move it forward. [16:23:29] *** cyzie has quit IRC [16:24:22] *** Izak has quit IRC [16:29:17] <patrin70> again... ;-) In my multi page form editor, I would gain focus on the first component in the page, as soon as the page is opened [16:30:16] <nitind> patrin70: And that's...bad? [16:30:36] <patrin70> I tried to override the setFocus() method of the WorkbenchPart, but apparently it is not called [16:31:18] *** ReneP has quit IRC [16:31:39] <rcjsuen> patrin70: What are you trying to do [16:32:26] *** david721 has quit IRC [16:33:20] <patrin70> the component on which I would put the focus is inside a SectionPart, so in the setFocus() method of my FormPage, I invoke the setFocus() method of the SectionPart and from there, I invoke setFocus() on the test component [16:33:30] <patrin70> Is this the right approach ? [16:33:52] <patrin70> sorry, Text component [16:33:58] <eidolon> rcjsuen: the problem is my coding skill in eclipse is very low - i haven't done -anything- with SWT or even baseline eclipse stuff. so it would take me a while to come up to spec. [16:34:32] <rcjsuen> eidolon: No biggy, it was just a suggestion. No one's going to force anyone to implement this. [16:34:50] *** tobias has joined #eclipse [16:34:53] <rcjsuen> Well, unless someone has an angry boss and forces his/her subordinates to provide a patch. ;) [16:38:21] *** ekuleshov has joined #eclipse [16:39:14] *** tobias__ has quit IRC [16:44:34] <patrin70> from the javadoc I read: Instructs the section to grab keyboard focus. The default implementation will transfer focus to the section client. Subclasses may override and transfer focus to some widget in the client. [16:44:52] <patrin70> so what I did should work... [16:44:55] *** JohnE has joined #eclipse [16:44:58] <patrin70> or I'm missing something ? [16:47:33] *** Cheops` has quit IRC [16:50:30] <rcjsuen> patrin70: Did you try debugging [16:50:34] *** Keelhaul has left #eclipse [16:50:59] <patrin70> yes, but the method is not called [16:52:53] *** unomystEz has quit IRC [16:53:11] *** unomystEz has joined #eclipse [16:53:11] <rcjsuen> patrin70: You overrode FormPage's setFocus() method? [16:54:57] <Hisamu> how to make "tabs as spaces" on eclipse? :) [16:56:14] <rcjsuen> Hisamu: Set it in the preferences. [16:56:26] <rcjsuen> Or if the editor in question supports formatting, try changing the formatter. [16:58:24] <patrin70> yes [16:58:50] *** pandaren has quit IRC [16:58:50] <beefy> that reminds me of something: is it normal that - even if you set your editor to use, say, 4 spaces instead of tabs, the format function (ctrl+shift+t, i think) still uses tabs to format your code? [16:59:07] <patrin70> and from there I delegate to the first section in the page [16:59:19] <patrin70> firstSection.setFocus() [16:59:43] <patrin70> in the setFocus() method of the section, I lastly invoke text.setFocus() [16:59:55] <patrin70> but the code is never reached... [17:00:13] <rcjsuen> patrin70: I'm not sure if you're supposed to override FormPage's call [17:00:21] <rcjsuen> since it delegates to the IManagedForm supposedly [17:00:30] <rcjsuen> beefy: editor != formatter [17:01:20] *** sama has joined #eclipse [17:03:19] *** LeNettoyeur has joined #eclipse [17:03:49] *** ReneP has joined #eclipse [17:04:09] <beefy> rcjsuen: ahh :) got that now [17:04:31] <beefy> i'm not sure if my eclipse PDT had that option, on my other pc, but i'll check it out [17:04:46] <rcjsuen> Editors are capable of being run headless (at least the JDT one anyway). [17:04:53] <rcjsuen> So it is not really actually tied to the UI. [17:05:10] *** kdaniel has quit IRC [17:05:21] *** n_np has joined #eclipse [17:05:30] <beefy> well thanks for introducing me to the notion of "formatters" ;) [17:06:11] <rcjsuen> if pdt doesn't allow for that customization, file a bug :) [17:06:44] *** SzymonB has joined #eclipse [17:08:03] *** jmcconnell has joined #eclipse [17:08:41] *** yakman_ has joined #eclipse [17:11:36] *** Ians has joined #eclipse [17:11:48] *** TodC has quit IRC [17:15:28] <beefy> paulweb515: one more thing .. before, you said "you can run eclipse *and* OSGi at the same time in one application ... just launch eclipse and have it start your OSGi bundles" .. how would i do that, have eclipse start my bundles? that's what i'm doing now using a launch configuration (an OSGi framework), and it obviously does not allow my bundles to communicate with the running Eclipse instance... [17:19:51] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC [17:22:48] *** mhaller has quit IRC [17:23:00] *** SzymonB has quit IRC [17:23:44] *** beefy has left #eclipse [17:24:50] *** lord_nikon has quit IRC [17:25:20] *** lord_nikon has joined #eclipse [17:25:45] <paulweb515> beefy: you can do it 2 ways ... oh, he's gone [17:26:32] *** Aleph_One has quit IRC [17:31:00] *** david720 has joined #eclipse [17:31:03] *** amitev has quit IRC [17:34:32] <Hisamu> how can i set "tabs as spaces" for all editors? i dont see it in preferences... just for Java editor [17:35:09] <nitind> Some editors do not support that. [17:35:30] <Hisamu> i got a yaml editor... i think it dont support :P [17:37:06] *** [AuP]Kahless has joined #eclipse [17:37:17] <[AuP]Kahless> nice [17:37:26] *** [AuP]Kahless is now known as Kahless_ [17:38:33] <Kahless_> i have got a problem with eclipse an a ftp-library (http://www.alhem.net/Sockets/index.html) [17:39:02] <Kahless_> anybody can help me ? 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[17:40:29] <Kahless_> c++ [17:40:32] <Kahless_> yes [17:40:40] *** Hisamu has left #eclipse [17:41:02] *** z4z4 has quit IRC [17:41:29] <Kahless_> i tested a small application but i've got some problems an g++ compiling on windows [17:42:43] *** ewet has quit IRC [17:42:50] <Kahless_> small applicaton: http://www.alhem.net/project/example6/index.html [17:43:14] <Kahless_> **** Internal Builder is used for build **** [17:43:14] <Kahless_> g++ -IN:\10 0Hochsprachen libs\Sockets-2.2.9\Sockets-2.2.9 -IN:\openssl-0.9.8e\openssl-0.9.8e\include -O0 -g3 -Wall -c -fmessage-length=0 -oftp\http.o ..\ftp\http.cpp [17:43:14] <Kahless_> ..\ftp\http.cpp:80:2: warning: no newline at end of file [17:43:14] <Kahless_> g++ -oftp.exe ftp\http.o [17:43:14] <Kahless_> ftp\http.o(.text+0x92): In function `Z3GetRKSs': [17:43:17] <Kahless_> E:/eclipse-cpp/work/ftp/Debug/../ftp/http.cpp:31: undefined reference to `Parse::Parse(std::string const&, std::string const&)' [17:46:30] *** ewet has joined #eclipse [17:46:45] <Kahless_> i hoped someone have experience with both products [17:51:56] *** cstromme has joined #eclipse [17:54:32] <paulweb515> Kahless_: where does Parse come from? [17:54:41] <paulweb515> Kahless_: i.e. what library? [17:55:14] *** jcrawford has joined #eclipse [17:55:15] *** jbosmans has joined #eclipse [17:55:25] *** cstromme has quit IRC [17:57:01] *** Kevin_Sawicki has joined #eclipse [18:00:00] <Kahless_> paulweb515: http://www.alhem.net/Sockets/index.html this library [18:00:27] *** jcrawford has quit IRC [18:00:38] <paulweb515> Kahless_: but your line, "g++ -oftp.exe ftp\http.o" [18:00:55] <paulweb515> Kahless_: you either have to include all .o files or link to a library with -l [18:01:29] <Kahless_> well [18:01:57] <Kahless_> in this lib doenst exist *.o files [18:02:13] <Kahless_> this part is form my "own" programm [18:03:05] <Kahless_> paulweb515: i have include the lib over eclipse [18:03:32] *** Zack1403 has quit IRC [18:03:46] <Kahless_> paulweb515: over projekt propertiers [18:05:21] *** vwegert has joined #eclipse [18:08:11] <paulweb515> Kahless_: I'm not sure how, but you need to tell CDT that creating your program involves linking in that library [18:09:46] *** Harvester has joined #eclipse [18:09:53] <Harvester> hello [18:12:25] <Harvester> I have one trouble with CDT on Eclipse 3.3.1.1. I created C++ project but when I press "Run" button, "Run As" dialog appears where is no any item called like "C/C++", only Java and JUnit. [18:12:40] <Kahless_> paulweb515: CDT ? [18:13:02] <Kahless_> paulweb515: ok i know [18:13:35] <Kahless_> Harvester: do you use eclipse for java and cpp? [18:14:13] <Harvester> no, only for cpp but I downloaded Eclipse SDK where Java support is enabled by default [18:14:41] <Harvester> maybe I can change this behaviour somewhere in Settings? [18:14:49] *** Zack1403 has joined #eclipse [18:15:42] <Kahless_> well [18:16:10] <Kahless_> if you download c++ support as addon [18:16:34] <Kahless_> and restarted eclipse [18:16:44] <Kahless_> it should works [18:17:19] <Zack1403> hey all, i am having a problem where a project will not even try to compile. Build automatically is checked and all libs in the build path are available. Anyone know what could be going on? [18:17:32] *** msemtd_hopeless has joined #eclipse [18:17:55] *** msemtd_hopeless is now known as msemtd [18:19:03] <Kahless_> Zack1403: not enough informations [18:19:20] <Zack1403> v 3.3.1.1 [18:19:32] <Kahless_> any error message [18:19:36] <Kahless_> s [18:19:39] <Zack1403> nothin in the log [18:19:49] <Kahless_> strange dunno [18:19:52] <Zack1403> a npe and a jboss error often but not related to build [18:20:50] *** JohnE has quit IRC [18:21:07] *** JohnBat26 has joined #eclipse [18:22:02] <msemtd> Hi, I'm developing an RCP app and I'm wondering how to re-use the eclipse console plug-in in my own app - is there an example of this somewhere? [18:25:44] *** rcjsuen has joined #eclipse [18:26:56] <msemtd> I have the javadoc for org.eclipse.ui.console but I guess I need to add a PageBookView or somesuch [18:27:26] <msemtd> hmm, I'll hack away for a while and see what happens! [18:27:26] *** msemtd has quit IRC [18:27:51] *** pschriner has left #Eclipse [18:28:18] <rcjsuen> Zack1403: Maybe your project is not a java project. [18:29:10] *** z` has quit IRC [18:29:27] *** z` has joined #eclipse [18:31:03] *** multi_io has joined #eclipse [18:31:13] <Harvester> Kahless_: I-ve already downloaded C++ support [18:32:36] *** yakman_ has quit IRC [18:32:57] <multi_io> what SWT control would you use for a simple viewer for a list of thumbnail images? Ideally, the viewer should provide the ability to arrange the thumbnails in rows or columns or somesuch, somewhat like the file view in Windows Explorer or other file viewers. [18:33:18] <rcjsuen> There's a Gallery widget in Nebula you might want to try. [18:36:48] *** njbartlett has joined #eclipse [18:37:14] <multi_io> thanks, I'll look into that [18:38:43] <Zack1403> rcjsuen: well i have been working with eclipse now for a while and this particular java project will work fine and compile for some time when it will suddenly not want to attempt compiling [18:38:44] <multi_io> my thumbnails have a fixed size though [18:39:32] <rcjsuen> Zack1403: Did you try Project / Clean? [18:40:13] <Zack1403> yea definitly, nothing [18:40:28] <Zack1403> tried taking off build automatically and building project [18:40:47] <Zack1403> also tried setting the output folder to something different [18:40:48] *** Tortoose has quit IRC [18:40:49] *** Harvester has quit IRC [18:41:06] <rcjsuen> Zack1403: So what happened, Eclipes just suddenly stopped compiling five minutes ago? [18:41:16] *** robinr has quit IRC [18:41:57] <Zack1403> yea and it has done this before and startup up again with no warning [18:42:15] <Zack1403> other projects are compiling though [18:43:03] <rcjsuen> Zack1403: So and then suddenly tomorrow it will start compiling again? [18:43:19] <Zack1403> seriously yes [18:43:41] <Zack1403> the issue has the same symptoms as when a lib in the build path is missing [18:45:09] *** cmw73 has joined #eclipse [18:45:15] <rcjsuen> closing/reopening the project doesn't help? [18:46:00] <Zack1403> just did it, no luck [18:46:34] <Zack1403> ok see now i just did a clean for like the 5th time and i am compiling! [18:46:36] <Zack1403> ahhhhh [18:47:00] <Zack1403> i know this issue will come up again. You guys ever run across this? [18:47:16] *** Adrenalin` has quit IRC [18:47:19] <rcjsuen> Not really [18:47:26] <rcjsuen> usually reboot/close/reopen/clean does it [18:47:32] <rcjsuen> it doesn't reeally "persist", per se [18:48:41] <Zack1403> yea its just a nusance [18:48:56] <Zack1403> but there is no single action i can find that fixes it [18:49:21] <Zack1403> maybe the close/open project then clean was the trick [18:51:15] <Zack1403> regardless, i am switching to visual studio [18:51:18] <Zack1403> :) [18:51:33] <rcjsuen> Zack1403: Well, best of luck. :) [18:51:52] <rcjsuen> Zack1403: Thank you for trying Eclipse and we hope you give it another try in the future. Good luck with the project. [18:51:57] *** Pookzilla has quit IRC [18:52:26] *** MicW has quit IRC [18:53:03] <Zack1403> you know i am of course kidding right [18:53:10] *** soulreaper has joined #eclipse [18:53:54] <rcjsuen> Zack1403: Nope, I actually thought you were serious. [18:54:43] <rcjsuen> Nothing wrong with switching if one tool doesn't fit your needs. [18:54:52] *** feindbild has joined #eclipse [18:55:02] <feindbild> hi =) [18:55:11] <rcjsuen> feindbild: Hi [18:55:36] <feindbild> does anybody know a plugin for eclipse which shows the open files in a listview instead of tabs? I cant find one =/ [18:56:13] <rcjsuen> That'd require a change in the presentation, there's a VS presentation plug-in, but those are still tabs. [18:56:20] <rcjsuen> feindbild: I guess Ctrl+E isn't enough for you. [18:56:22] *** krbarnes has quit IRC [18:56:35] <rcjsuen> ~219100 [18:56:36] <KOS-MOS> Bug 219100 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=219100 - Platform / IDE / 3.4 - PC / Windows XP - NEW / enhancement / - Assignee:platform-ide-inbox at eclipse dot org - Improved listing of files opened in Editor [18:56:53] *** BugFreeWin has joined #eclipse [18:58:47] <feindbild> rcjsuen: no, ^E isn't exactly what I had in mind- I want to get rid of the tabs. Either that or get them a lot smaller and have them stacked vertically. [18:59:02] <rcjsuen> well, the VS presentation makes them pretty small [18:59:21] <feindbild> And I agree with the bug report, those tabs are painful if a lot of files are open ... [18:59:54] <rcjsuen> feindbild: Make yourself heard! [18:59:58] <feindbild> ^^ [19:00:17] <rcjsuen> Although it's probably a duplicate bug of some older bug I think, but anyway. [19:01:07] *** cmw72 has quit IRC [19:03:37] *** veleno has quit IRC [19:03:44] <rcjsuen> feindbild: http://www.willianmitsuda.com/eclipse-plugins/eclipse-skins/ [19:05:49] *** lord_nikon has left #eclipse [19:07:16] *** TodC has joined #eclipse [19:07:22] *** Pookzilla has joined #eclipse [19:08:04] *** sama has quit IRC [19:09:14] *** Pookzilla has quit IRC [19:09:19] *** soulreaper has quit IRC [19:11:09] *** Midtronic|School has quit IRC [19:11:17] *** david720 has left #eclipse [19:11:36] *** LordMetroid has joined #Eclipse [19:14:01] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC [19:14:33] *** nickboldt has left #eclipse [19:15:13] *** Pookzilla has joined #eclipse [19:22:02] <Zack1403> hey guys the non compiling issue came back! [19:22:05] <Zack1403> on another project [19:22:15] <Zack1403> close/open clean didnt work for this one [19:22:25] <Zack1403> i guess the only option is to reinstall? [19:23:39] *** Blafasel has joined #eclipse [19:24:48] <Blafasel> Hi there. Reading a ~ a year old blog entry [1] the CDT seemed to work on C# support. Is this still an ongoing effort? Is there a cdt specific channel somewhere? (1: http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com/2007/02/hello-c.html) [19:25:29] <nitind> Zack1403: Perhaps if you refreshed some memories. [19:26:01] <Zack1403> nitind: well my project doesnt want to attempt to build [19:26:22] <Zack1403> no errors or anything [19:26:55] <Zack1403> it is intermitent. all of a sudden the project will respond to a clean [19:27:28] <Zack1403> the issue has the same symptoms as when a lib in the build path is missing [19:30:53] *** Primer has joined #eclipse [19:31:10] <Primer> Wasn't there someone working on a new javascript plugin for eclipse? [19:31:21] <Primer> It seems all the ones out there are...lacking [19:31:38] <Zack1403> have you looked at aptana? [19:32:22] <nitind> There's a more powerful one in the upcoming WTP 3.0. You can find it in WTP's 3.0 or Ganymede milestones. [19:33:10] <Primer> that's one of the "lacking" ones [19:33:18] <Primer> aptana, that is [19:34:15] <Zack1403> used it barely but seems to have decent support for the libraries i use [19:35:27] <Zack1403> nitind: any idea on what my problem could be? seems to have stumped everyone here thats seen it [19:35:59] *** Gavin___ has joined #eclipse [19:36:45] <Primer> nitind: seems WTP's at 2.0.2RC1 [19:36:46] *** robinr has joined #eclipse [19:36:50] <Primer> no mention of 3 on this page [19:37:01] <Primer> released 01-31-2008 even [19:45:51] *** acuster has joined #eclipse [19:46:20] <nitind> Primer: On what URL? [19:47:16] <Primer> http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/ [19:47:31] <Primer> I guess I just needed to scroll down a bit [19:47:53] <Primer> my bad [19:48:22] *** juacom99 has joined #eclipse [19:49:11] <juacom99> hi i just install Leonardi Studio V4.0 adn i want to kbow how to integrate it with eclipse 3.3 if is posible [19:49:42] <nitind> Primer: Be sure to look at and get the dependencies. [19:49:53] *** Gavin____ has joined #eclipse [19:49:55] *** dominikg has joined #eclipse [19:50:10] *** netoman has joined #eclipse [19:50:50] <juacom99> the dependence?? [19:50:59] <juacom99> how do i do that :S [19:52:59] <nitind> juacom99: That was for Primer. You might want to ask the Leonardi Studio developers how to manage it. [19:53:51] <Primer> thanks, I'll look at it [19:53:53] *** Primer has left #eclipse [19:54:27] <juacom99> i been trying to use it along and is really rare :S [19:54:43] <juacom99> *alone [19:55:37] *** Infinito_ has quit IRC [19:56:20] *** ewet has quit IRC [19:57:10] *** tltstc has joined #eclipse [20:00:19] *** ewet has joined #eclipse [20:04:13] *** timothym has quit IRC [20:06:12] *** acuster has quit IRC [20:07:31] *** SKuhn has joined #eclipse [20:07:44] <juacom99> nm is not that i thougth it was [20:10:20] <juacom99> any swing awt GUI editor ?? 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[21:01:35] <rcjsuen> gdiebel: start Eclipse, workbench opens, shutdown Eclipse, error? [21:02:19] *** Blafasel has left #eclipse [21:03:57] <rcjsuen> feindbild: Did you reply to that bug? [21:05:26] <feindbild> rcjsuen: yes =) [21:05:31] <feindbild> and thank you for that link [21:05:43] <rcjsuen> feindbild: you know you can type in the dropdown right [21:06:28] <rcjsuen> Since you mentioned it doesn't sort alphabetically, I thought maybe you were not aware of the fact that typing will filter down the list. [21:07:56] <feindbild> rcjsuen: I know about the filter, but that still doesn't help if I want to 'browse' the open files because I can't recall the name ... [21:08:25] *** eido has joined #eclipse [21:08:40] <rcjsuen> That's certainly true. I don't thikn it's supposed to be sorted alphabetically. [21:09:23] <rcjsuen> or maybe it is, as i see that's how it works on my Eclipse ;) [21:09:30] *** JohnE has left #eclipse [21:10:04] *** tobias has joined #eclipse [21:10:11] *** dominikg has joined #eclipse [21:10:36] <gdiebel> rcjsuen: yes [21:10:52] <feindbild> rcjsuen: I very much like seeing the big picture of things *g* So I usually have a lot of associated files open ... parent classes, interfaces, WSDL files, XML resources ... [21:10:55] <rcjsuen> gdiebel: Is this consistently reproducible? [21:11:30] <rcjsuen> gdiebel: The cause appears to be from Mylyn. [21:11:43] <rcjsuen> where are you getting this log [21:12:56] *** rorUnni2827 has joined #eclipse [21:14:05] <juacom99> can anione plese recomend me a good swing awt GUI editor [21:14:16] <juacom99> *anyone [21:15:01] <feindbild> juacom99: did you look at netbeans? [21:17:49] <juacom99> i'm using eclipse as ide [21:17:54] <juacom99> and i did look there [21:18:11] <juacom99> but i didn't finnd one for bouth [21:18:41] <rcjsuen> Well, NetBeans and Eclipse doesn't have the same backend architecture. ;) [21:19:31] <feindbild> juacom99: netbeans comes with a very good GUI editor. I haven't found one for eclipse so far, and writing one would eventually a bit more trouble because eclipse doesn't use swing. [21:19:57] *** jmcconne1l has joined #eclipse [21:22:42] *** rorUnni has quit IRC [21:23:24] <juacom99> rcjsuen: whyen i said there i eman eclipse plugins not netbeans [21:23:41] <gdiebel> rcjsuen: sorry I was away for a bit. Yes it does occur when eclipse starts, workbench opens, close eclipse. Even with new workspace. Does not seem to matter. [21:24:07] <juacom99> feindbild: you mean yo program in eclipse and make the GUIS in netbeans? [21:25:01] <gdiebel> rcjsuen: if the cause is mylyn, can I disable that plugin? [21:26:18] <nitind> gdiebel: Yes, from the Help menu, under Software Updates, I think, you can Manage Configuration. [21:29:24] *** eido has quit IRC [21:30:27] <feindbild> juacom99: yes *g* [21:31:49] *** rorUnni has joined #eclipse [21:31:50] *** rorUnni2827 has quit IRC [21:34:10] *** flippo has joined #eclipse [21:34:18] *** jmcconnell has quit IRC [21:34:25] *** Kahless_ has quit IRC [21:34:49] *** ekuleshov has quit IRC [21:35:32] *** jmcconnell has joined #eclipse [21:35:48] *** moonfriend has joined #eclipse [21:36:19] <moonfriend> does anybody here know about mtj? [21:37:48] <moonfriend> #eclipse: I am looking for MTJ on linux but I can not find any resource to download on the site [21:40:38] *** jmcconne2l has joined #eclipse [21:42:45] <juacom99> #hermes-server:test [21:45:09] *** rorUnni has quit IRC [21:47:06] *** vwegert has quit IRC [21:48:33] *** rorUnni has joined #eclipse [21:49:15] *** jmcconne1l has quit IRC [21:49:48] *** feindbild has quit IRC [21:50:31] *** Infinito_ has joined #eclipse [21:52:33] *** jmcconnell has quit IRC [21:57:31] *** juacom99 has left #eclipse [21:59:30] *** ekuleshov has joined #eclipse [22:00:02] *** moonfriend has left #eclipse [22:00:13] *** dominikg has quit IRC [22:05:02] <rcjsuen> gdiebel: at org.eclipse.mylyn.tasks.ui.TasksUiPlugin.start(TasksUiPlugin.java:382) looks suspicious, so [22:05:10] <rcjsuen> altho i dunno why it's disposed [22:08:26] *** ewet has quit IRC [22:08:58] *** Industrialist has joined #Eclipse [22:09:28] *** ewet has joined #eclipse [22:11:11] *** ewet has quit IRC [22:11:12] *** Industrialist has quit IRC [22:11:27] *** Industrialist has joined #Eclipse [22:12:05] *** ewet has joined #eclipse [22:12:57] *** TodC has quit IRC [22:15:25] *** Industrialist has quit IRC [22:15:28] *** Industrialist_ has joined #Eclipse [22:15:30] *** Industrialist_ is now known as Industrialist [22:17:51] *** MikeW has joined #eclipse [22:19:30] *** patrin70 has quit IRC [22:21:24] *** Industrialist has quit IRC [22:21:27] *** Industrialist_ has joined #Eclipse [22:21:29] *** Industrialist_ is now known as Industrialist [22:22:54] *** goggles|sleep has joined #eclipse [22:23:23] *** goggles|sleep has left #eclipse [22:23:29] *** goggles|sleep has joined #eclipse [22:23:59] *** goggles|sleep has left #eclipse [22:24:48] <MikeW> are there any tutorials for running Eclipse RCP applications from the command line? I have a plugin that implements IApplication (also has an Activator), but when running "java -jar org.eclipse.osgi.jar -console" and starting that plugin, it looks like the app's start(IAppContext) never gets called...any ideas? [22:25:22] <rcjsuen> MikeW: java -jar org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.0.0.jar -application your.app.id [22:26:06] *** bladezor has quit IRC [22:28:24] *** Industrialist has quit IRC [22:28:27] *** Industrialist_ has joined #Eclipse [22:28:29] *** Industrialist_ is now known as Industrialist [22:29:47] *** Ians has quit IRC [22:32:58] *** Industrialist has quit IRC [22:33:14] *** Industrialist_ has joined #Eclipse [22:33:15] *** Industrialist_ is now known as Industrialist [22:33:58] <MikeW> rcjsuen: is there a list of jars I need on my classpath? [22:34:24] <rcjsuen> MikeW: well, the Equinox launcher jar [22:34:30] <rcjsuen> one sec [22:34:40] *** jmcconnell has joined #eclipse [22:35:21] <rcjsuen> MikeW: java -classpath plugins/org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.0.0.v20070319.jar org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main -consoleLog -clean -debug -application org.eclipse.ecf.presence.bot.chatRoomRobot [22:35:24] <rcjsuen> MikeW: that is how i start KOS-MOS [22:38:24] *** Industrialist has quit IRC [22:38:27] *** Industrialist_ has joined #Eclipse [22:38:29] *** Industrialist_ is now known as Industrialist [22:41:18] *** d_a_carver has joined #eclipse [22:42:05] <MikeW> rcjsuen: so the last line I see is "Time to load bundles: 31" and then I get dropped back to the command line.... Do I need something in .options? [22:42:18] <rcjsuen> .options? [22:43:00] *** dsugar100 has left #eclipse [22:43:06] <MikeW> it says "Debug options: .options loaded" [22:43:15] <MikeW> and then just returns [22:43:15] <rcjsuen> I don't think I did anything about that. [22:43:20] <rcjsuen> You don't have to add -debug. [22:44:57] <MikeW> right, but I just get dumped back to the command line... [22:44:58] <rcjsuen> MikeW: -consoleLog should tell you what's up though [22:45:58] <MikeW> ahh, I had eclipse.ignoreApp=true :) [22:46:07] <MikeW> what do you have in config.ini? :) [22:46:28] <rcjsuen> various bundles [22:46:48] <rcjsuen> Although you shouldn't be forced to tweak with it if you use the rcp export properly...I think. [22:47:30] *** jmcconne2l has quit IRC [22:48:46] <MikeW> well, which version should I be using? I'm starting with a blank file :) [22:49:10] <rcjsuen> Which version of what, Eclipse? [22:49:26] *** shiva has left #eclipse [22:50:03] <MikeW> well, were did you get your config.ini from? [22:50:08] <rcjsuen> I don't think my way of starting the app is even a conventional method. [22:50:09] <MikeW> I actually got it working! [22:50:14] <rcjsuen> MikeW: No idea, that was months ago. [22:51:03] *** ewet has quit IRC [22:51:05] <MikeW> so is there a Eclipse RCP redistributable, or do I just keep adding jars until it doesn't complain :) [22:51:22] *** LeNettoyeur has joined #eclipse [22:51:25] *** SirBob1701 has joined #eclipse [22:51:36] <rcjsuen> MikeW: maybe http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.3.1.1-200710231652/index.php#RCPRuntime [22:51:37] *** rcjsuen has left #eclipse [22:51:44] *** rcjsuen has joined #eclipse [22:51:49] <rcjsuen> I don't know, I don't really do RCP. [22:52:32] <MikeW> :-P [22:52:38] <MikeW> yeah, I bet that's it...hiding down there! [22:52:47] <rcjsuen> MikeW: Left hand side is a listing [22:53:05] <rcjsuen> or more accurately, the "top left" [22:54:18] *** SirBob1701 has quit IRC [22:55:26] *** soulreaper has joined #eclipse [22:57:43] *** LeNettoyeur has quit IRC [22:57:44] *** Industrialist has quit IRC [22:57:45] *** rorUnni2827 has joined #eclipse [22:58:28] *** Industrialist_ has joined #Eclipse [22:58:31] *** Industrialist_ is now known as Industrialist [22:58:34] *** nialp has quit IRC [22:59:29] <MikeW> so I'm trying to run a method on an extension, so I presume that all I have to do is query the Platform.getExtensionRegistry() and get the IExtension, and once I have that I just need to call createExecutableExtension() and cast that to my interface? [22:59:41] *** HuggyBear has quit IRC [23:00:17] <rcjsuen> that's how it's usually done [23:00:49] <MikeW> awesome! [23:02:04] <MikeW> and does my plugin have to do anything special to make sure that it's availble? I was looking at some OSGI tutorials and it looked like you have to call registerService inside the Activator's start()...or does eclipse take care of all of this? [23:03:08] <rcjsuen> you're writing plug-ins on top of your rcp app? [23:03:53] <njbartlett> MikeW: For extensions, all you have to do is make sure the plugin is present. The OSGi tutorial you read were probably talking about Services, which are a different thing. [23:03:57] <MikeW> yeah, I've added an extension-point in my RCP app [23:04:25] <MikeW> ahh, so eclipse doesn't expose services, but they're used under the covers? [23:04:43] <njbartlett> MikeW: Depends what you mean by "expose" [23:05:00] <njbartlett> MikeW: Eclipse doesn't make a lot of use of services itself. But plugin developers can use services if they choose to. [23:06:15] <MikeW> well, my RCP app has an interface and I want to develop a bunch of plugins that implement that interface, and then be able to call those implementations from the RCP app [23:07:25] <MikeW> does that make sense? :) [23:07:45] <MikeW> I've just been looking at this for 2 days...though I've ordered the Eclipse RCP book today :) [23:07:54] *** SKuhn has quit IRC [23:08:03] *** gdiebel has left #eclipse [23:08:41] *** JohnBat26 has quit IRC [23:09:50] <rcjsuen> MikeW: yes, that makes sense [23:10:06] <rcjsuen> MikeW: What kind of app are you working on? Is this open source? [23:12:24] *** Industrialist has quit IRC [23:12:27] *** Industrialist_ has joined #Eclipse [23:12:28] *** rorUnni has quit IRC [23:12:30] *** Industrialist_ is now known as Industrialist [23:12:56] <MikeW> I'm just playing around with it for now...yeah, I'd want to be able to expose extension points so anyone can add extensions [23:13:15] <MikeW> and it seems like eclipse rcp is the best thing around :) [23:13:31] <MikeW> are a lot of people, projects, companies using it yet? [23:14:05] <rcjsuen> That depends on how you define "a lot" I guess. [23:14:49] <MikeW> haha [23:14:54] <MikeW> it's really interesting stuff [23:15:07] <rcjsuen> MikeW: There's a listing of Eclipse Foundation members anyway - http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMembersWithTag.php?TagID=strategic - http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMembersWithTag.php?TagID=addin - http://www.eclipse.org/membership/showMembersWithTag.php?TagID=associate [23:16:09] *** bronson has quit IRC [23:16:11] <MikeW> is there a list of products developed with RCP specifically? [23:16:24] <rcjsuen> That list would be pretty big [23:16:34] <rcjsuen> or I should say, impossible to keep track of [23:17:01] <rcjsuen> MikeW: http://www.eclipse.org/community/rcpos.php http://www.eclipse.org/community/rcpcp.php [23:17:55] *** kirkz has joined #eclipse [23:18:24] <kirkz> anyone knows what happend to javaspider? or has something that does same job? [23:19:31] <MikeW> that's a lot of projects! 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[23:48:08] <diogosales> rcjsuen: i think europa has some fields to insert user and passwd on preferences somewhere, but right now i must manage with 3.1 [23:49:15] <diogosales> 3.1 only accepts proxy host and port. i've already tried user:passwd@server syntax, but no success wither [23:49:20] <diogosales> *either [23:51:11] <MikeW> for an interface to be executable via IConfigurationElement.createExecutableExtension(...), does it have to extend a Eclipse interface? [23:51:12] *** Industrialist has quit IRC [23:51:28] *** Industrialist_ has joined #Eclipse [23:51:30] *** Industrialist_ is now known as Industrialist [23:52:54] <diogosales> rcjsuen: it's just that i'm configuring a server running linux ubuntu 6.06, whose repositories only support eclipse 3.1.2, and i have no permission to install other than supported packages [23:53:13] *** fsteeg has quit IRC [23:53:15] <diogosales> "universe" package repositories, as they're called, is as far as i can go [23:53:42] <rcjsuen> Eclipse can be installed quite easily through a tarball (no compilation required), but if you can't even do that, then *shrugs* [23:55:28] <diogosales> lots of paperwork work for my company to authorise that, but if i find no choice i'll have to place the request around here [23:55:39] <diogosales> and wait for mercy ;-) [23:57:04] *** paRaDoX has joined #eclipse [23:57:05] *** Industrialist has quit IRC [23:57:25] <paRaDoX> eclipse / Netbeans ?? [23:57:28] *** Industrialist_ has joined #Eclipse [23:57:30] *** Industrialist_ is now known as Industrialist [23:58:13] <rcjsuen> paRaDoX: try both and find out [23:58:35] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure why you're asking this in the #eclipse channel though. [23:58:44] <paRaDoX> netbeans 6.0 has many improvment [23:58:55] <paRaDoX> and is faster than eclipse [23:59:03] <rcjsuen> good to hear :) [23:59:25] <rcjsuen> paRaDoX: If you're productive with netbeans, don't let us stop you :) [23:59:26] <paRaDoX> you want me to ask in the meeting channel ? [23:59:52] <rcjsuen> Meeting channel?