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[00:27:38] <pdani> hi
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[00:28:36] <pdani> is it possible to switch between editor tabs with direct shortcuts, like ctrl-1, ctrl-2, ctrl-3 etc for the tab 1, tab2, and tab3 based on their position?
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[00:30:07] <BudgetDedicated> when designing autocompletion templates (type a few letters and replace with a whole construct) is there a way to make a selection list of items that can be filled in ? Now I can either choose to have the user put in a variable or make it static, but what about a quick slection for [true|false] ?
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[00:36:45] <pierreth> how can I link the javadoc of a .jar in my project?
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[03:06:09] <arooni> hey team
[03:06:17] <arooni> how do i initiate find/replace with a keyboard shortcute
[03:06:19] <arooni> shortcut
[03:08:25] <DPAK0H> C^F/C^G?
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[03:21:43] <Dcesiel> Hey guys eclipse crashes at startup for me.  Could someone help me figure out why? Heres the output file:  http://pastebin.com/m435343ef
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[03:23:33] <Dcesiel> By the way I'm running ubuntu 7.10
[03:23:51] <zx|cafe> are you using GCJ by any chance?
[03:24:31] <zx|cafe> oh maybe not
[03:24:32] <zx|cafe> hrmm
[03:24:56] <zx|cafe> did you do anything like trying to upgrade your version of Eclipse?
[03:25:33] <Dcesiel> naaa I've never used eclipse before, just thought I'd try it cus i've heard such great things about it
[03:25:51] <zx|cafe> how did you get it?
[03:26:04] <Dcesiel> ubuntu repository
[03:26:29] <zx|cafe> maybe Ubuntu is having trouble with its packaged copy for some reason... you can try downloading a zip from www.eclipse.org/downloads
[03:26:37] <zx|cafe> It's as simple as unzipping and running ./eclipse
[03:26:39] <zx|cafe> 0 install :)
[03:26:58] <Dcesiel> I guess I'll try that
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[03:27:28] <Dcesiel> I've never had a problem with ubuntu main repo packages not working though
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[03:28:15] <zx|cafe> Another option is trying to launch Eclipse with -clean
[03:28:18] <zx|cafe> ./eclipse -clean
[03:30:00] <Dcesiel> nope didn't help
[03:30:10] <ijuma> Dcesiel: unfortunately problems with the packaged versions of eclipse are quite common on this channel
[03:30:28] <ijuma> ~ubuntu
[03:30:36] <Dcesiel> ijuma: I see
[03:31:12] <Dcesiel> I'm downloading eclipse of the site as we speak
[03:31:24] <Dcesiel> i'll try that
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[03:32:43] <rcjsuen> ijuma: do we even have that command?
[03:32:50] <ijuma> rcjsuen: apparently not ;)
[03:32:54] <rcjsuen> I guess I should add a "This is not recognized"
[03:32:55] <rcjsuen> ~info
[03:32:56] <KOS-MOS> Please state your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), your Java runtime environment (unless you checked in your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, you do not know _for sure_, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), your Eclipse version, and where did you download Eclipse from.
[03:33:05] <rcjsuen> I'm seeing a lot of lag when doing bugzilla queries though.
[03:33:12] <ijuma> i thought there may have been cause it's a common thing
[03:33:18] <rcjsuen> we should have an
[03:33:20] <rcjsuen> ~ubuntu-java
[03:33:21] <KOS-MOS> Trying to get Java running on Ubuntu Linux? Is someone in the channel saying some foreign phrase like "a supported JRE"? Look here - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[03:33:30] <rcjsuen> added this a wihle ago from a link Dave gave me
[03:34:51] <ijuma> rcjsuen: i see
[03:36:22] <Dcesiel> Cool eclipse off your site worked
[03:36:40] <Dcesiel> Now to remove the ubuntu package
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[03:38:34] <rcjsuen> Dcesiel: Good to hear, good luck.
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[04:01:20] <rcjsuen> that new Nokia looks pretty sexy on Gorkem's blog
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[05:01:46] <rcjsuen> pierreth: in your project's java build path you can attach javadocs to the jar i think
[05:03:39] <pierreth> rcjsuen: yes, i found it
[05:04:09] <pierreth> I thought I had to click on the .jar to set it, but it is not the case
[05:04:35] <pierreth> rcjsuen: thank you anyway
[05:05:37] <pierreth> rcjsuen: this works with Java files but it does not work with Groovy files
[05:05:55] <rcjsuen> That's up to some Groovy plug-in I guess.
[05:06:47] <pierreth> I guess we are not there yet
[05:07:33] * rcjsuen shrugs.
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[05:08:24] <pierreth> good night
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[05:28:39] <litius> since Eclipse overwrites my project's classpath when I run from it, I need a way to access change that classpath programmaticly "setProperty( "java.class.path", value )" does not do it. How can I do it in Java Code (not in Eclipse settings)? thx
[05:31:40] <rcjsuen> litius: Eh?
[05:31:46] <rcjsuen> What are you trying to do
[05:32:13] <rcjsuen> how is it overwriting/overriding your classpath?
[05:33:32] <litius> well Eclipse creates its own classpath, that you set in "Java Build Path" for the project, right?
[05:33:49] <rcjsuen> yes, you can say that
[05:33:55] <litius> I need to change it programmaticly
[05:34:05] <litius> because the same project, when it goes to the build server
[05:34:14] <litius> has no Eclipse luxury
[05:34:21] <litius> and has to operate on its own
[05:34:30] <litius> but the classpath should be the same
[05:34:32] <rcjsuen> then shouldn't your server's classpath be set properly?
[05:34:53] <litius> what do you mean?
[05:34:58] <litius> server's classpath?
[05:35:01] <rcjsuen> shouldn't the server have all the jars?
[05:35:14] <litius> jars is not the problem
[05:35:23] <rcjsuen> then what's the problem
[05:35:34] <litius> ".property" and ".xml" is the problem
[05:35:41] <rcjsuen> Isn't your project's classpath consisting of jars and other things?
[05:35:55] <rcjsuen> Well, add those to the classpath too if that's what it takes.
[05:36:16] <rcjsuen> you could also try ##java
[05:36:21] <rcjsuen> This sounds more like a generic Java setup issue.
[05:37:02] <litius> no.. this is Eclipse, not a generic Java. With no Eclipse I can run it fine
[05:37:29] <rcjsuen> that means your server isn't setup the same way Eclipse is setup
[05:37:36] <litius> But I need to be able to run it from withing Eclipse (NOT using Eclipse classpath)
[05:37:40] <rcjsuen> Its classpath is not inclusive of whatever's on Eclipse's project's build path.
[05:37:54] <rcjsuen> litius: If you don't use the same classpath as your project, how is your project supposed to run?
[05:37:56] <rcjsuen> if my app needs jar A
[05:37:57] <litius> server has nothing to do with it - it is project specific
[05:38:00] <rcjsuen> and now my server doesn't have jar A
[05:38:03] <rcjsuen> it can't run
[05:38:12] <litius> JARS is not the problem
[05:38:22] <litius> ".property" and ".xml" is
[05:38:26] <rcjsuen> yes, I'm aware of that
[05:38:30] <rcjsuen> same thing
[05:38:56] <litius> ok.. on the build server I have a shell script that creates a classpth
[05:38:58] <rcjsuen> " I need a way to access change that classpath programmaticly "setProperty( "java.class.path", value )" does not do it. How can I do it in Java Code (not in Eclipse settings)? thx" sounds like a generic Java problem
[05:39:01] <rcjsuen> is what I'm trying to say
[05:39:16] <litius> in Eclipse I can't do it
[05:39:29] <litius> unless using Eclipse GUI settings
[05:40:07] <litius> why can't I use System.setProperty("java.class.path", value) in Eclipse?
[05:41:43] <rcjsuen> You can see how Eclipse runs Java applications based on the process's properties in the 'Debug' view.
[05:42:02] <rcjsuen> It could be an Eclipse bug, a VM bug, or something wrong with how you're setting it.
[05:45:28] <rcjsuen> at runtime it might be too late to be using setProperty
[05:45:33] <rcjsuen> you could try -Djava.class.path I suppose
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[06:26:27] <GreenJelly> hey Im trying to get eclipse to work on a remote server (ftp, sftp, webdev,etc).... I am a noob at eclipse, I want to give it a good try... anyone can help?
[06:28:12] <GreenJelly> my site is drupal, I have followed their instructions on setting up the php side of things...  I just cant get it to hook up to a remote apache server
[06:28:30] <GreenJelly> anyone here?
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[06:32:21] <GreenJelly> bladezor_ you alive?
[06:32:30] <bladezor> yes
[06:32:46] <bladezor> ?
[06:32:47] <GreenJelly> can you help me, I am lost...
[06:32:50] <GreenJelly> hehe
[06:32:59] <bladezor> with?
[06:33:04] <GreenJelly> I need ftp access to my site...
[06:33:17] <bladezor> Through eclipse?
[06:33:50] <GreenJelly> yea
[06:34:28] <bladezor> I've never really tried FTP through eclipse
[06:34:32] <bladezor> But this might be of some help
[06:34:33] <bladezor> http://www.phpeclipse.de/tiki-index.php?page=FTP+and+WebDAV
[06:34:41] <GreenJelly> I tried aptana, but it seems you need a local apache server for everything
[06:35:16] <GreenJelly> ty
[06:35:53] <bladezor> np
[06:42:05] <GreenJelly> does everything require a local webserver?
[06:44:38] <litius> I'll try again (maybe somebody new joined ;) ): since Eclipse overwrites my project's classpath when I run from it, I need a way to access change that classpath programmaticly "setProperty( "java.class.path", value )" does not do it. How can I do it in Java Code (not in Eclipse settings)?
[06:44:39] <litius> JARS is not the problem - ".property" and ".xml" is.
[06:44:39] <litius> On the build server (to run JUnits) I have a shell script to add property/configuration directories to the class path and call it as "java -cp $CLASSPATH... "
[06:44:39] <litius> But on Eclipse I can't do that (other than using GUI) - it there a way? Thank you.
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[06:55:24] <AlNor> litius, we develop in an Eclipse based tool and run that same app on a build machine without maintaining the classpath in 2 places by using a set of ANT tasks called "ant4eclipse"
[06:57:13] <AlNor> I'm not entirely sure what you are trying to do, but it sounds more like you need to configure the build machines classpath to have the same classpath as you have at runtime ... trying to write some java code to do that seems a bit over the top :P
[06:57:55] <AlNor> and, yes, we have the Eclipse tool installed on the build machine as well so it has access to any libraries needed (we run it in headless mode at that point)
[06:58:43] <GreenJelly> I understand that Eclipse is powerfull... it sure looks that way from all that I read... the problem is that if you cant get it to work, it isnt very powerfull
[06:59:06] <GreenJelly> Im not finding fault, but I dont know what to do
[06:59:21] <GreenJelly> i cant connect to a remote webserver?
[06:59:42] <litius> thank you AlNor, but I do not want to depend on IDE
[06:59:58] <litius> when running X projects that are interconnected
[07:00:07] <litius> hence I need non-Eclipse solution
[07:00:14] <litius> we have people developing in VI
[07:00:19] <litius> Inteli
[07:00:20] <AlNor> litius, I understand, but then you will have to maintain the classpath outside of the ide
[07:00:21] <GreenJelly> thats kinda a fundimental IDE plroblem
[07:00:24] <litius> Emacs, et
[07:00:36] <litius> that IS what I want
[07:00:43] <AlNor> litius and the ant4eclipse tasks can pull that IDE specific info out for you
[07:00:46] <litius> on the build server it is easy
[07:00:59] <litius> however in Eclipse it is ??? (not using GUI)
[07:01:04] <litius> I am only talking JUnits
[07:01:13] <litius> cause codebase I have no problem with
[07:02:19] <litius> "ant4eclipse" will not do good, unless 100% of developers using Eclipse
[07:02:37] <litius> but we have Eclipse as one of the choices
[07:02:38] <GreenJelly> no one can tell me a way to hook up eclipse to a ftp apache server?  Isnt that a basic and simple situation?  If Eclipse cant do it, what IDE is good?
[07:02:41] <AlNor> you only need one with an up-to-date classpath
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[07:02:58] <litius> right but it is still coupling
[07:03:07] <litius> which we do not want to have
[07:03:33] <litius> can you explain the reason why I cannot overwrite Eclipse's classpath?
[07:03:38] <litius> or how can I?
[07:03:39] <litius> thx
[07:03:41] <AlNor> so actually what you are wanting is to be able to set your projects classpath outside of any tool and use that same classpath inside the ide?
[07:04:04] <litius> yeap, but not using IDE tooling for that
[07:04:13] <litius> and again it is JUnit area of the code
[07:05:39] <litius> or maybe using IDE tooling, but with the possibility to change it programmatically
[07:06:27] <AlNor> well I don't know how to do it that way around, we have all devs using some form of Eclipse based tool, and use ant4eclipse to get the CP outside of that
[07:06:31] <litius> since it is "in testing", we can create a utility class that does just that - I just sa far do not know the way to do it :(
[07:06:36] <litius> *so far
[07:06:37] <AlNor> would be nice to know though ... :)
[07:07:12] <litius> interesting, is your app a web app?
[07:08:47] <AlNor> some are, yes
[07:08:51] <litius> so yo use Spring?
[07:08:55] <AlNor> nope
[07:09:00] <litius> EJB?
[07:09:04] <AlNor> yes
[07:09:10] <litius> I see..
[07:09:13] <litius> We use Spring
[07:09:24] <litius> and we have many XML based cofigs
[07:09:34] <litius> + properties
[07:09:57] <litius> hence we have our own way (framework) to resolve everything in production
[07:10:21] <litius> that is one of the reasons "ant4eclipse" is not a good solution for us
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[07:10:44] <litius> but still, thank you for your suggestion
[07:12:00] <GreenJelly> Im sorry but eclipse totally fucking blows... it is the worst IDE I have ever NOT used... why... because after 2 days I CANT USE IT!  Develop something that works, until then, the product is a peace of shit... peace out!
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[07:25:57] <AlNor> litius only thing that I can see is that it appears to be possible to set an environment variable to be used when running ...
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[07:28:01] <AlNor> actually, I'm confused now ... you don't want to use the UI to setup the classpath, but you want to be able to run using Eclipse ?
[07:29:35] <AlNor> you must have the classpath setup already if developing in Eclipse, and I would assume setup with the tool in Inteli, etc
[07:30:58] * AlNor has managed to double back, spin around, and twist so much the original problem is not clear anymore ;P
[07:33:37] <litius> AlNor :), do not be confused - system.setProperty("java.class.path", value) does not work, and yes, I would like to change the classpath set by Eclipse at run time.
[07:34:48] <AlNor> that's the bit where I get confused ... so you _are_ using eclipse at that point ?
[07:35:00] <litius> yea yea...
[07:35:02] <AlNor> how do you solve this with Inteli ?
[07:36:02] <litius> as I said - evrything works ok on a build server, however, when a developer changes something in Eclipse environment, he/she (but mostly he ;) ) does not know that it will (won't) work on a build server
[07:36:36] <litius> but if we have a programatic control over Eclipse's classpth, we can track/change that
[07:36:41] <litius> (with the utility)
[07:37:16] <litius> sorry if that sounds confusing.. every project's roots need time to digest..
[07:37:35] <AlNor> the same can be said for any IDE though, right? So how do you manage with Inteli, netbeans, etc ?
[07:40:56] <litius> oh.. I do not.
[07:41:02] <litius> In VI, Emacs it is easy
[07:41:16] <litius> Inteli and Eclipse I have problems with
[07:41:23] <litius> but I am not using Intelli
[07:41:28] <litius> a couple of guys do though
[07:41:38] <litius> most of the people use Eclipse
[07:41:41] <litius> some VI
[07:41:43] <litius> some Emacs
[07:47:12] <AlNor> hmmm .. but actually, isn't your build machine just the palce to check for these things? I mean, it will break, won't it? :)
[07:48:03] <AlNor> if you find some reasonable solution, I'd be interested to know what you come up with ... I see that we might have multiple IDEs at some point here if things carry on the way they are
[07:54:14] <litius> right.. and we already have that (different IDEs). No - it will not break on the build server, cause everything has to comply to project standards
[07:54:49] <litius> however to maintain these "project standards" from the client (developer end) is a heavy duty.. :)
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[08:46:58] <mschulz> hello
[08:47:10] <mschulz> where are the workspaces for eclipse defined?
[08:47:29] <mschulz> after I've installed qt4 support for eclipse the IDE starts with some workspace I never had
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[09:06:39] <pythonir> Hello there
[09:06:44] <pythonir> I just installed Eclipse, and IcedTea JRE
[09:07:07] <pythonir> here is the active path :/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-icedtea/jre/bin/java
[09:08:08] <pythonir> I'm just getting this msg "No Java virtual machine was found after searching the following locations: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-icedtea/jre/bin/java/bin/java"
[09:08:25] <pythonir> any suggestion?
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[11:01:39] <nethen> hello
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[11:02:51] <MrStein> Hi! CDT problem again. Tasks (TODO,FIXME) work in *.c files, but not in *.h. Any idea ?
[11:03:31] <MrStein> that is : they are alway detected (bold) in editor, but don't appear in the Tasks view
[11:04:10] <nethen> i am using eclipe 3.3.2 , with myeclipse 6.0.1. When i control+click on a method name, i go to its declaration.. but only its declararion is shown, not the rest of the file.
[11:05:31] * MrStein is using 3.3.1.1 with CDT 4.0
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[11:10:00] <nethen> MrStein , does my control+click thing also happen to you?
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[11:12:55] <MrStein> nethen: no. The file with the method is loaded in the editor, the cursor on the method declaration. Works fine.
[11:13:15] <MrStein> nethen: Does TODOs work for you ?
[11:14:18] <kestas> hi, I'm using PHP Development Tools, and whenever I debug a PHP script it works great but the whole HTML page is sent to the "Debug output", which causes an INCREDIBLY ANNOYING "! Error Code: 490 Debug? Yes/No" to pop-up EVERY TIME I view a page
[11:14:33] <kestas> it happens whether or not I use the Eclipse's built in browser
[11:14:33] <nethen> i have only java support, not  C, MrStein
[11:14:55] <kestas> and there's nothing in the Debug settings I can see that'll stop it from happening
[11:15:28] <kestas> it is SO frustrating to have to click "No" and have the system error sound happen EVERY TIME I load a damn page
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[11:16:32] <kestas> the problem seems to be that the "Console" is alerting me on any error at all, including "PHP 5 Strict" errors
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[11:17:23] <Macen> the eclipse logo on macosx is fugly
[11:17:41] <Macen> looks like some sort of islamic symbol
[11:19:56] <MrStein> :-)
[11:20:38] <kestas> on the PC it looks like an Empire probe droid
[11:26:29] <nethen> mmm... and how can i change the color of the "warnings","errors" mini-rectangles  in the right ruler?
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[13:23:12] <ecfuser15738> ?
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[13:34:44] <rcjsuen> nethen: look in the preferences, you can change the colours there somewhere in one of the text editor pref pages
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[13:48:22] <SlavkaPiyavka> hey guys... , if i need this (required for a plugin) .... org.eclipse.update.core .... how can i install it?
[13:49:09] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: What are you doing right now?
[13:49:16] <rcjsuen> Installing a plug-i nfrom the Update Manager or something?
[13:49:18] <rcjsuen> we need more context
[13:49:19] <SlavkaPiyavka> yeh
[13:49:23] <SlavkaPiyavka> trying to install a plugin
[13:49:33] <SlavkaPiyavka> thats what i meant by required by a plugin
[13:49:38] <SlavkaPiyavka> sorry if i wasnt clear enough
[13:49:39] <rcjsuen> please describe what you're doing, and what you're seeing (and screenshots preferably)
[13:49:56] <rcjsuen> What plug-in are you trying to install?
[13:50:04] <SlavkaPiyavka> sure... trying to install this plugin .... http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Web_Links-index-req-viewlink-cid-1120.html
[13:50:11] <SlavkaPiyavka> using an update site they provide
[13:50:21] <SlavkaPiyavka> and then i have [next] disabled
[13:50:40] <SlavkaPiyavka> and a msg says that org.eclipse.update.core is required
[13:50:44] <SlavkaPiyavka> and i cant click next
[13:51:04] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: update.core is a pretty fundamental plug-in, i think it is likely a versioning problem
[13:51:19] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: Help > about eclipse sdk
[13:51:25] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: what is your version and build id please
[13:51:44] <SlavkaPiyavka> one sec
[13:51:58] <SlavkaPiyavka> Version: 3.3.1.1
[13:52:12] <SlavkaPiyavka> Build id: M20071023-1652
[13:52:13] <rcjsuen> that is odd, since the link you gave me says it supports eclipse 3.3.0
[13:52:18] <rcjsuen> unless it really wants 3.3.0
[13:52:22] <rcjsuen> which would be pretty stupid
[13:52:34] <z4z4> if you're using update manager I'm pretty sure you have update.core :)
[13:52:35] <SlavkaPiyavka> :/
[13:53:19] <z4z4> SlavkaPiyavka: try to find a binary of the plug-in or build it by yourself
[13:53:42] <SlavkaPiyavka> i do have it
[13:53:48] <SlavkaPiyavka> i just had a look in the plugins
[13:54:01] <z4z4> I don't rely on Update Manager, but that's just me
[13:54:04] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: can you take a screenshot of the update manager's screen?
[13:54:25] <rcjsuen> z4z4: it's pretty sad when we work on Eclipse but we don't use the UM ;)
[13:54:53] <benny_> p2 will come :)
[13:55:12] <SlavkaPiyavka> yeh one sec
[13:55:14] <SlavkaPiyavka> ill do that
[13:55:23] <z4z4> new Eclipse build is delivered to me almost every morning
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[13:56:04] <z4z4> other project like Mylyn, EclipseMonkey are all build from sources
[13:56:17] <z4z4> I'm mean, this is what I do
[13:56:35] <rcjsuen> z4z4: I wish it went to my computer every day
[13:56:41] <z4z4> benny_: yeah, can't wait for it
[13:56:42] <rcjsuen> well, I just get the I build every week instead of the Ns
[13:57:47] <z4z4> I did try the p2 one => ~bug217056
[13:57:58] <z4z4> *once
[13:58:51] <z4z4> rcjsuen: instead of reading a newspaper in the morning I download and compile what I need
[13:58:57] <SlavkaPiyavka> ehh for some reason i cant do the screenshot
[13:58:59] <SlavkaPiyavka>  Symfoclipse (1.2.1) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.php.core".
[13:59:01] <SlavkaPiyavka> thats the error
[13:59:12] <SlavkaPiyavka> it just says that at the top
[13:59:12] <rcjsuen> I thought it needed update.core o.O
[13:59:31] <SlavkaPiyavka> ohh shit
[13:59:33] <rcjsuen> In any case, org.eclipse.php.* == PDT == www.eclipse.org/pdt
[13:59:42] <z4z4> ;)
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[14:00:57] <KOS-MOS> Bug 217056 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=217056
[14:03:21] <SlavkaPiyavka> ok new one
[14:03:22] <SlavkaPiyavka>  PDT Feature (Incubation) (1.0.0.v20070808-79--E7QYGHEHNHN) requires feature "org.eclipse.wst (2.0.0)", or compatible.
[14:03:50] <rcjsuen> well, you need wst too
[14:03:52] <rcjsuen> ~pdt-install
[14:04:06] <SlavkaPiyavka> is there an update site for that
[14:04:11] <rcjsuen> Hm, I wouldn't be expecting lag even for regular commands.
[14:04:12] <rcjsuen> how odd
[14:04:20] <SlavkaPiyavka> for wst
[14:04:23] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: enjoy http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/Installation
[14:05:20] <SlavkaPiyavka> rc you refering to all in one?
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[14:07:10] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: If there's a build for you for all-in-one, you could tr ythat
[14:07:12] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: What OS are you on?
[14:07:25] <SlavkaPiyavka> winxp
[14:07:37] <SlavkaPiyavka> yeh but i dont wanna do that... ive already got other plugins installed
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[14:08:01] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: then use the other method
[14:08:10] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: they explain another one a little bit farther down i think?
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[14:10:32] <Dantrius> I'm having some trouble with my eclipse 3.3.. my arrow keys simply stopped working, neither does my backspace... anyone got any clue why this is happening?
[14:11:00] <rcjsuen> Dantrius: If you extract a new Eclipse does that work?
[14:12:02] <KOS-MOS> Trying to install PDT? See http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/Installation
[14:12:03] <Dantrius> i haven't tried that... i think i lost that copy... i'll check
[14:12:11] <SlavkaPiyavka> cant i just install that wst plugin
[14:12:20] <rcjsuen> mm, there's definitely a major lag here
[14:12:24] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: yes, you could
[14:12:36] <SlavkaPiyavka> thats what im asking
[14:12:37] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: the steps that describes how to install PDT
[14:12:39] <SlavkaPiyavka> how can i do that...
[14:12:41] <rcjsuen> also inadvertantly
[14:12:45] <rcjsuen> explains how to install WST
[14:12:48] <rcjsuen> because WST is a requirement
[14:12:52] <rcjsuen> or i should say, prerequisite
[14:12:54] <rcjsuen> does that make sense?
[14:13:12] <rcjsuen> when the page explains how to install PDT, it will also install WST (assuming the steps are followed, and assuming they are not out-of-date)
[14:13:15] <rcjsuen> everything should fall into place
[14:13:18] <rcjsuen> Am I making any sense here
[14:13:32] <Dantrius> rejusen: i dont
[14:13:47] <Dantrius> rejusen: i dont have that copy anymore... but i had an old copy of version 3.2
[14:14:10] <Dantrius> rejusen: just extracted it, and no good... it doesn't work in that version either
[14:14:23] <SlavkaPiyavka> we;;
[14:14:26] <SlavkaPiyavka> well
[14:14:27] <SlavkaPiyavka> its not
[14:14:36] <SlavkaPiyavka> im following the steps
[14:14:44] <SlavkaPiyavka> and keep getting this
[14:14:46] <SlavkaPiyavka>  PDT Feature (Incubation) (1.0.0.v20070808-79--E7QYGHEHNHN) requires feature "org.eclipse.wst (2.0.0)", or compatible.
[14:14:54] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: Did you add the Europa Update Site?
[14:15:22] <SlavkaPiyavka> ahh no
[14:15:25] <SlavkaPiyavka> just the pdt
[14:15:26] <rcjsuen> Dantarion: Sorry, I dunno
[14:15:40] <rcjsuen> SlavkaPiyavka: http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/Installation#Eclipse_3.3_.2F_Europa_.2F_PDT_1.0 that's what the 'x' meant
[14:15:42] <Dantrius> rejsuen: oh well, thks anyway
[14:15:57] <rcjsuen> Dantarion: maybe another software is causing problems
[14:16:08] <rcjsuen> Dantrius: you could try filing a bug
[14:16:49] <SlavkaPiyavka> ok... now i think i get how this select required thing works....
[14:17:03] <Dantrius> rejsuen: i googled  it, and saw something about a bugged mouse doing this O.but i tried changing mouse and no good...
[14:17:09] <SlavkaPiyavka> thanks guys
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[14:19:24] <Dantrius> rejsuen: i guess i'll google it a little bit more... thks for your time
[14:20:01] <rcjsuen> good luck
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[14:28:18] <SlavkaPiyavka> ok guys... now i got these errors...
[14:28:20] <SlavkaPiyavka> Unable to complete action for feature "PDT Feature (Incubation)" due to errors.
[14:28:21] <SlavkaPiyavka>   The File "C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\eclipse\.update\1202901153781\1202901153838\eclipse40622.tmp" is not a valid JAR file. [error in opening zip file]
[14:28:23] <SlavkaPiyavka>   error in opening zip file
[14:28:25] <SlavkaPiyavka>   The File "C:\DOCUME~1\ADMINI~1\LOCALS~1\Temp\eclipse\.update\1202901153781\1202901153838\eclipse40622.tmp" is not a valid JAR file. [error in opening zip file]
[14:28:26] <SlavkaPiyavka>   error in opening zip file
[14:29:19] <rcjsuen> Might want to try another mirror.
[14:30:37] <SlavkaPiyavka> ok
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[14:36:12] <Macen> how do you configure the php.ini options Eclipse uses?
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[14:43:44] <Macen> anybody?
[14:43:57] <Macen> what does eclipse pdt use to examine php scripts>?
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[14:46:30] <rcjsuen> Macen: might wanna try pdt newsgroup
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[14:51:51] <kestas> Macen: I wrote a guide on this
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[14:51:56] <kestas> Macen: because it is a pain in the ass
[14:52:05] <Macen> kestas: tell me about it
[14:52:08] <kestas> http://kestas.kuliukas.com/ZendDebugger/
[14:52:23] <Macen> tyvm :)
[14:52:26] <kestas> Macen: for me it was even worse because I tried to use phpEclipse first
[14:52:30] <kestas> np
[14:52:39] <Macen> kestas: oh?
[14:52:49] <Macen> I got the Eclipse PDT all-in-one
[14:53:05] <kestas> Macen: well it didn't go anywhere, spent ages trying to get the debugger to work, exhausted every possibility
[14:53:15] <Macen> and I'm on Mac
[14:53:35] <kestas> shouldn't make too much difference, hopefully
[14:54:02] <kestas> but I hope you can mount your web server directory, or that its running on your mac
[14:54:10] <Macen> kestas: so to be clear so i don't waste any more time, it is vital you use http://www.zend.com/en/community/pdt or?
[14:54:23] <Macen> mac's come with apache installed, i've got all that sorted
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[14:55:28] <kestas> Macen: i'm using Eclipse 3.2.100, PDT Core Plug-in 1.0.0.v20070611
[14:55:44] <kestas> hopefully PDT won't matter too much
[14:55:47] <kestas> *the version of
[14:56:00] <kestas> as long as it's in the right ballpark
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[14:57:54] <Macen> sure
[14:57:57] <Macen> that's awesome, thanks
[14:59:00] <kestas> np, I just wrote what I wish had already been written (say, for example, by zend)
[14:59:46] <Macen> heheh
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[15:23:04] <mohbana> can someone recommend me a good guide for cvs on eclipse pelase
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[16:05:14] <shiva> I want to look at jdt.ui package but in my search for Type does not return anything. Do I need to install some Eclipse JDK SDK?
[16:09:46] <luca1> shiva: There is an Eclipse SDK that you can download.  It will definitely have all of that code included.
[16:11:05] <shiva> luca1: I have Eclipse SDK installed and I can see it in plugin view. However, I don't see any jdt stuff.
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[16:12:07] <luca1> shiva: What information about the package are you looking for exactly?
[16:12:48] <shiva> luca1:  well, I want to see what org.eclipse.jdt.* package contains.
[16:13:50] <shiva> I am dowloading zip from the website I think that will do it.
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[16:14:19] <luca1> shiva: You could look at the Javadoc: http://help.eclipse.org/help33/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.jdt.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/jdt/core/package-summary.html
[16:14:21] <shiva> Interestingly enough when I tried Update feature it did not give me anything.
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[16:37:18] <cschneid_> is there any repository (or even way of sharing) color schemes?  The black on white background is killing me
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[16:44:05] <tschona> i have problem with saving the environment variables (CDT) in eclipse version 3.3.1. but now problems with 3.3.0, does anybody knows about that?
[16:44:38] <tschona> but no problems....
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[16:54:24] <cschneid_> is there a repository of color schemes for eclipse, and a way of importing them, or do I have to go define my own
[16:57:05] <zx|work> cschneid_: not that I know of
[16:57:21] <cschneid_> hmm, ok then.  I'll just do it myself... ugh :)
[16:57:43] <zx|work> cschneid_: I don't know, it may be possible to set stuff up once and then File->Export Preferences
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[16:58:11] <cschneid_> zx|work, yeah.  How about a simpler question of how do I change the background color on the editor?  I'm in colors and fonts, but can't find a "background" setting
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[17:00:24] <zx|work> cschneid_: General->Text Editors
[17:00:33] <zx|work> cschneid_: There should be an option for appearance color options
[17:01:27] <cschneid_> I'm in General -> Appearance -> Colors and Fonts.  I've changed my font ok, but no background changes seem to be for the main editor window.  I can change tab color... but that doesn't help much
[17:01:59] <cschneid_> ahh, it's under General -> Editors -> Text Editors
[17:04:27] <cschneid_> eww, I change to black and there is a giant bar of white between the line numbers, and the code.  Not liking eclipse for customization
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[17:06:58] <peace-keeper> anyone else having trouble connecting to the eclipse svn ?
[17:08:35] <peace-keeper> telnet dev.eclipse.org 22 - connection refused
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[17:13:18] <toulmean> peace-keeper: you should not use ssh to access the SVN
[17:13:30] <toulmean> you should use the http protocol
[17:13:50] <peace-keeper> hum ok
[17:13:51] <toulmean> recvently hte Foundation had to fight with ssh attacks and they are blacklisting IPS
[17:13:54] <toulmean> IPs
[17:14:03] <toulmean> so you might get in trouble if that happens.
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[17:14:12] <peace-keeper> k so i use https
[17:14:55] <toulmean> nah, http: http://dev.eclipse.org/svnroot/stp/
[17:15:02] <toulmean> unless you have commit access ?
[17:15:23] <toulmean> in that case you have to use SSH, and if you cannot access it you need to send an email to webmaster
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[17:20:49] <rdw> hello, is there a way to install php perspective into eclipse on kubuntu?
[17:21:54] <rdw> 3.2
[17:24:32] <rdw> ok i guess i have found it
[17:24:45] <rdw> one more question - is PDT or phpeclipse better?
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[17:28:30] <kaje1> I have an SWT toolbar that I'd like to change from SWT.HORIZONTAL to SWT.VERTICAL at runtime without having to reinitializing all of the child ToolItems.... Anyone have a suggestion as to how I can do this?
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[17:30:50] <krbarnes> kaje1: you can't
[17:31:24] <krbarnes> kaje1: if you need to change you have to create a new toolbar.
[17:34:09] <SKuhn> when I try to profile with TPTP the runtime workspace is located at ("/home/qn/"/home/qn/Coden/runtime-New_configuration"/test" ( while I should be, like it is for debugging under (/home/qn/Coden/runtime-New_configuration/test). The plugins from normal workspace are not loaded. I'm using Gentoo Linux, Europa-Eclipse. Any help?
[17:34:16] <kaje1> damn, ok, thanks krbarnes
[17:35:04] <kaje1> and it is not possible to have a widget be a child of two parents... correct?
[17:35:39] <kaje1> so, I'll have to create separate buttons for each toolbar?
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[17:36:25] <jcrawford> guys is there a way to diff 2 different files in eclipse?
[17:36:45] <jcrawford> i read up on quick diff but thta seems to be what i want however i do not see how to tell it what files to diff
[17:37:53] <zx|work> jcrawford: right click on two files and you should be able find a option called "Compare with Each Other"
[17:37:56] <zx|work> or something like that
[17:37:58] <krbarnes> kaje1: that's right. you have to recreate everything.
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[17:38:25] <jcrawford> \ah perfect... thanks
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[17:48:53] <SKuhn> TPTP: when I try to profile, the runtime workspace is located at ("/home/qn/"/home/qn/Coden/runtime-New_configuration"/test" ( while I should be, like it is for debugging under (/home/qn/Coden/runtime-New_configuration/test). The plugins from normal workspace are not loaded. I'm using Gentoo Linux, Europa-Eclipse. Any help?
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[18:00:29] <Midtronic|School> howdy.. How can I see which features/plugins get loaded in eclipse/error messages telling me why what I want isn't getting loaded?
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[18:00:34] <jcrawford> how do i install a theme in eclipse on mac?
[18:01:08] <zx|work> Midtronic|School: if you're self hosting, you should have something called the error log view
[18:02:25] <Midtronic|School> hmm, that has plenty of errors about org.eclipse.osgi, but nothing about the stuff I need.  Could those errors be screwing the rest up?
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[18:03:09] <Midtronic|School> a few fileInitializer_fileNotFound errors, in fact.  But no stack trace, so I don't know what's missing :-/
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[18:04:02] <Midtronic|School> nothing comes up when I start eclipse with -consolelog
[18:04:27] <zx|work> those org.eclipse.osgi errors are critical as that's the core bundle in Eclipse
[18:04:36] <Midtronic|School> *except maybe 5% of the same errors that show up in the log, but still no useful information
[18:04:38] <zx|work> the errors should tell you which bundles weren't resolved
[18:04:56] <zx|work> how did you get Eclipse btw?
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[18:05:12] <Midtronic|School> beats me, this is a lab box.  Probably via apt, though
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[18:05:59] <zx|work> Midtronic|School: so that Eclipse on the lab box isn't launching properly?
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[18:06:13] <zx|work> Midtronic|School: if you launch with -console, are you presented with an OSGi prompt?
[18:06:28] <Midtronic|School> yup
[18:06:58] <Midtronic|School> I mean, the gui comes up and everything seems great, but I put some stuff in plugins and features that isn't being loaded
[18:07:11] <zx|work> Midtronic|School: try ./eclipse -clean
[18:07:21] <zx|work> Midtronic|School: let's start there, what plug-ins are they?
[18:08:09] <Midtronic|School> it's called cusp, for lisp development in eclipse, gives a REPL and such
[18:09:51] <Midtronic|School> I get the same errors with -clean
[18:09:59] <kaje1> I'm trying to change the layoutdata of a widget that exists in a form layout at run time. When I set the layoutDataAgain, it doesn't seem to effect the widget. Do I need to redraw or update somehow?
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[18:13:14] <kaje1> Ahh! Nevermind. I just found out that I need to call layout() on the parent widget...
[18:14:34] <SKuhn> is there an update site for the TPTP 4.4.1 build?
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[18:31:05] <kaje1> Anyone know how to center a Label vertically?
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[18:41:46] <EvilGuru> Is there any way to improve eclipse's support for spaces-as-tabs?
[18:42:14] <EvilGuru> As currently is just seems to map tab to n-spaces. But when going through a file it does not 'collect' n-spaces into one
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[18:42:50] <EvilGuru> So if I accidentally press tab I need to press backspace 4 times to get back to where I was
[18:48:52] <buggs> EvilGuru, you could CTRL-Backspace + CTRL-i
[18:49:30] <EvilGuru> What about when I am arrow-keying through my code, it is much easier to do that when blocks of spaces = one tab are grouped
[18:51:36] <buggs> CTRL-arrow
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[18:52:22] <buggs> anyways i don't understand completly, why you'd first want tabs as spaces that are then treated as tabs
[18:52:59] <EvilGuru> As a lot of projects, have in their coding standards that spaces should be used
[18:53:04] <EvilGuru> I like the semantics of tabs
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[18:54:35] <buggs> maybe you could add that functionality to eclipse and submit a patch?
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[18:55:26] <EvilGuru> Been a while since I have done any Java
[18:55:39] <EvilGuru> Quite a few other text editors work that way though, which is why I asked
[18:56:06] <buggs> maybe you can add a feature request to the bugzilla?
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[18:57:42] <buggs> no that would be fine
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[19:04:35] <Hanns> hello! ne1 know of a good code formatter for php?
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[19:23:30] <SKuhn> wouldn't it make sense to move TPTP back to incubation?
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[19:54:22] <dotsintacks> I'd really like to be able to have Eclipse jump to a specific file and line number with some javascript in my web browser. (its an online bug tracking system). Is there an eclipse plugin that exposes the hooks necessary to make this happen?
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[19:57:41] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[19:57:56] <MetaMorfoziS> how can i add own methods to the makefile?
[19:58:25] <MetaMorfoziS> To get that constantly in the makefile without the problem that eclipse ovewrites that...
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[19:59:53] <konigsberg> Good morning, I have a question about Handlers vs. Actions
[20:00:06] <konigsberg> No, wait, I don't yet. I haven't properly formed my question.
[20:00:28] <MakeFake> and i've a question about intellisense
[20:00:32] <MakeFake> in eclipse
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[20:01:20] <Mician> hi all
[20:03:02] <MakeFake> and ?
[20:03:13] <MakeFake> in window->preferences-> java ?
[20:03:15] <Mician> how are you ?
[20:03:57] <krbarnes> MakeFake: what is your question?
[20:04:46] <MakeFake> krbarnes: i open a new java project, and add a file to source
[20:04:54] <MakeFake> krbarnes : add ".java"
[20:05:15] <MakeFake> when i wrote
[20:05:23] <MakeFake> pri... i wanna see "printf"
[20:05:30] <MakeFake> is this intellisense
[20:05:39] <MakeFake> it is intellisense in "vs"
[20:05:46] <MakeFake> where is it in eclipse?
[20:05:56] <MakeFake> how can i open it?
[20:06:05] <konigsberg> MakeFake, CTRL-SPACE, depending on your operating system.
[20:06:49] <MakeFake> Thank you  konigsberg
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[20:09:54] <konigsberg> All, I must confess, I continue to be confused about the line between commands and actions.
[20:10:06] <konigsberg> What I have now, is I have set up a series of Command objects.
[20:10:14] <konigsberg> Sorry ,let me rephrase.
[20:10:59] <konigsberg> I have commands defined in my plugin.xml
[20:11:23] <konigsberg> And I want to have them contribute to a popup menu.
[20:11:35] <konigsberg> ALSO, I want the commands to be conditionally enabled, based on the state of the active editor.
[20:11:48] <konigsberg> Now, I've been pointed to documentation before, but it really just looks like the documentation is lacking in these areas.
[20:12:41] <konigsberg> i started by trying to dynamically add actions to the editor using the editorContextMenuAboutToShow method.
[20:12:51] <konigsberg> But in order to do that I need to map my Handler to an action.
[20:12:55] <konigsberg> So I don't know how to do that.
[20:13:06] <konigsberg> From there, I don't know how to have the Command conditionally be enabled.
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[20:13:18] <konigsberg> Can someone help me with these two questions? Sorry for sounding obtuse.
[20:13:34] <konigsberg> BTW, I have looked at other editors for guidance, but most of them still use Actions. (e.g. JavaEditor)
[20:13:46] <konigsberg> ... which uses even more complicated stuff like ActionGroups.
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[20:20:42] <konigsberg> OK let me start with a simpler question: what is the relationship between Commands and Actions?
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[20:41:34] <GUIs-R-Me_> konigsberg: Commands == Good :) ; Actions == Bad :(
[20:42:14] <GUIs-R-Me_> You want to add actions to the popup menu for a particular editor's context menu?
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[20:47:58] <MakeFake> hi
[20:48:04] <MakeFake> i wanna run a code
[20:48:23] <MakeFake> and editor says make a selection  "Java applet" or "java application"
[20:48:26] <MakeFake> what are those?
[20:51:02] <konigsberg> MakeFake: you probably want Java Application.
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[20:51:16] <konigsberg> GUIs-R-Me: Yes. Not really. I already have written Handlers.
[20:51:57] <konigsberg> GUIs-R-Me: So I don't know if I want to add content sensitive Actions, or Content-sensitive Handlers.
[20:52:00] <konigsberg> Make sense?
[20:53:08] <MakeFake> konigsberg : "the public type Disk must be  define in its own file"
[20:54:12] <MakeFake> must i open files for all class?
[20:54:45] <konigsberg> I'm not sure what you're referring to.
[20:54:58] <konigsberg> Sounds to me like you have a class named Disk in a file that is not called Disk.java
[20:55:25] <MakeFake> i have a class "Disk" but i dont have a file "Disk.java"
[20:58:01] <jcrawford> how do i install a theme in eclipse on mac?
[20:58:53] <konigsberg> MakeFake, it sounds to me like you might want to consider reading some beginner guides.
[20:59:01] <GUIs-R-Me_> konigsberg: I'm pretty sure that what you want to do is to make the Handlers and define them in XML
[20:59:12] <konigsberg> MakeFake: try http://www.developer.com/java/web/article.php/10935_3528616_1 as a starting point.
[20:59:50] <GUIs-R-Me_> Adding 'visbleWhen' and 'EnabledWhen' expressions (I'm not sure which Editor state you need...)
[21:00:13] <GUIs-R-Me_> Then Craete the Command and reference your handler as the default one
[21:00:41] <konigsberg> GUIs-R-Me_: My actual problem is beyond the visibleWhen and EnabledWhen, because i want the context menu items disabled when, for instance, the cursor is in a specific position.
[21:00:56] <konigsberg> (in the same way that Cut and Copy are disabled when no text is selected.
[21:00:57] <GUIs-R-Me_> Then use org.eclipse.ui.menus to add the command into the appropriate context menu...
[21:00:58] <konigsberg> )
[21:01:10] <konigsberg> OK
[21:01:13] <GUIs-R-Me_> aah,
[21:01:23] <konigsberg> yeah, see?
[21:01:42] <konigsberg> Now I've discovered the editor method editorContextMenuAboutToShow,
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[21:01:48] <GUIs-R-Me_> yup, yet another case of not enough 'content' in our 'context'
[21:01:49] <konigsberg> but I don't think that's the right place for me to do this using Commands / Handlers
[21:01:59] <kaje1> How do I allow an SWT Text object to have scroll bars?
[21:02:02] <konigsberg> Hmm... what do you mean there?
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[21:02:33] <GUIs-R-Me_> Well, we get continual requests to make more 'variables' available...
[21:02:40] <konigsberg> OIC.
[21:02:50] <konigsberg> (Oh, I see.)
[21:03:02] <konigsberg> Are you on the Platform team?
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[21:03:13] <konigsberg> (Sounds like it)
[21:03:42] <GUIs-R-Me_> I'll check with Paul to see but I believe that there's a 'visibleWhenEnabled' setting and there should be some way to set the enablement using code
[21:03:44] <GUIs-R-Me_> yes
[21:04:01] <konigsberg> Here's what it looks like:
[21:04:06] <konigsberg> Tell me if I'm wrong.
[21:04:32] <GUIs-R-Me_> See, if the info is available in the context we can manage everything through the expressions (i.e. no plugin loading req'd)
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[21:05:31] <MakeFake> konigsberg : Did you use Vs ?
[21:05:39] <GUIs-R-Me_> Otherwise we'd be forced to load your plugin in order to show the menu entry...are the new menus being 'hosted' in a view/editor that you own?
[21:05:48] <GUIs-R-Me_> For a while...
[21:06:05] <konigsberg> What's Vs?
[21:06:15] <MakeFake> visual studio
[21:06:18] <GUIs-R-Me_> I'm guessing Visual Studfio...?
[21:06:21] <konigsberg> Oh, not for many years ago
[21:06:29] <konigsberg> I mean, I did, many years ago.
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[21:06:49] <konigsberg> Let me think...
[21:07:02] <MakeFake> in VS in a file i can run all codes
[21:07:26] <MakeFake> is eclipse really ask for a file for all class?
[21:08:39] <konigsberg> MakeFake, I don't really know, unfortinately.
[21:09:03] <MakeFake> ok
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[21:09:20] <konigsberg> GUIs-R-Me_, I'm ... stuck. So OK, let me regroup my thoughts.
[21:09:27] <nitind_> MakeFake: The Java editor lets you create a Scrapbook page, from which you can just write arbitrary Java code.
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[21:10:45] <GUIs-R-Me_> konigsberg: kk, I'd really like to see if we can do this through the new API though (Cmds/Handlers/Menus). If we can't then our story isn't as complete as I thought
[21:11:55] <GUIs-R-Me_> konigsberg: last question(s)...do you own the editor? Do you know that you can get the necessary state from it (paraphrase as Could you do it programmatically)?
[21:12:05] <konigsberg> GUIs-R-Me: Yes./
[21:12:17] <konigsberg> GUIs-R-Me: Here's a question then: Are Actions and Handlers instantiated only when they're selected from the menu?
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[21:12:52] <konigsberg> Should the context - enablement occur elsewhere? In the ActionDelegate, and... the HandlerDelegate? What's the equivalent of the Handler Delegate?
[21:13:07] <konigsberg> (Does my question even make sense? Cause if it doesn't it reveals my ignorance.)
[21:13:26] <GUIs-R-Me_> In most cases that's the case..ideally, the visibility and enablement are handled by Expressions in the XML and only when an enabled menu/tool item is selected is the Handler's plugin loaded
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[21:13:36] <GUIs-R-Me_> and the Handler's class created
[21:13:39] <konigsberg> In my case, the plug-in will be loaded
[21:13:44] <konigsberg> because it's in the same plug-in as the editor.
[21:13:58] <GUIs-R-Me_> that's a good thing :)
[21:14:17] <GUIs-R-Me_> because it loosens the requirements a bit
[21:14:38] <konigsberg> visibleWhen doesn't seem to do it for me, because (I think) I can't add a condition written in Java.
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[21:15:02] <GUIs-R-Me_> owning the editor is even better
[21:15:22] <GUIs-R-Me_> I'll check that...there's -gotta- be a way ;-)
[21:15:47] <konigsberg> Interesting point, BTW, I have noticed something: i already have an o.e.ui.menus contribution that is visibleWhen
[21:16:20] <konigsberg> <with variable="activeEditorId"><equals value="MYEDITOR"/> </with>
[21:16:41] <konigsberg> Now, what I have noticed is when I start Eclipse with this plug-in, and I edit a file that opens MYEDITOR,
[21:16:48] <konigsberg> the menu is not visible
[21:17:11] <konigsberg> not until another editor becomes the active one, and then I go back to that first editor.
[21:17:18] <konigsberg> I wonder if that's a plug-in loading order issue.
[21:17:22] <konigsberg> ok brb
[21:17:42] <konigsberg> never mind I am back
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[21:23:57] <GUIs-R-Me_> konigsberg: Aha, I might have a partial fix...
[21:24:28] <GUIs-R-Me_> You could contribute a dynamic menu contribution to the context menu...
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[21:25:30] <konigsberg> Interesting. How is that?
[21:25:32] <GUIs-R-Me_> each time the menu is shown it'll get asked for the list of contibutions to replace it with (this is where your code gets to define the actual contents using whatever heuristic you wand
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[21:26:01] <konigsberg> In the editorContextMenuAboutToShow method?
[21:26:27] <GUIs-R-Me_> No, done correctly you should be able to rely on the 'standard' context menu support
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[21:27:09] <konigsberg> oh I see.
[21:27:44] <GUIs-R-Me_> each menu gets a standard URL...for editors I believe that ir's the editor 'id' so the URL for the context menu additions would be "popup:<editorId>"
[21:27:54] <konigsberg> OK
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[21:28:42] <GUIs-R-Me_> Using the org.eclipse.ui.menus extension you should be able to add a dynamic contribution that constructs the actual Command referencing contribtions on the fly
[21:29:09] <konigsberg> OK
[21:29:10] <GUIs-R-Me_> Sry, gotta go I'll check back tomorrow...
[21:29:13] <konigsberg> OK THanks
[21:29:17] <konigsberg> I'll look some more
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[21:38:37] <rcjsuen> SKuhn: if you have problems with the tool, file bugs
[21:39:04] <rcjsuen> dotsintacks: there's no api, but not impossible to do
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[21:39:35] <dotsintacks> rcjsuen: what would I google? I've never hacked on eclipse
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[21:40:07] <rcjsuen> mm, you could look at the ~faq
[21:40:08] <KOS-MOS> Please see the FAQs http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Category:FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs
[21:40:14] <rcjsuen> then figure out how to open an editor
[21:40:21] <rcjsuen> for starters i guess
[21:40:33] <rcjsuen> but in terms of using javascript
[21:40:36] <rcjsuen> i dunno about that
[21:40:44] <rcjsuen> how would the javascript talk to an app to begin with?
[21:41:04] <rcjsuen> is Eclipse open already or no?
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[21:41:28] <Squirrel> f
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[21:41:53] <rcjsuen> Squirrel: ?
[21:42:20] <Squirrel> im creating a class that implements a generic interface - but eclipse makes all the generic types Object
[21:42:27] <Squirrel> any way to avoid that ?
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[21:42:51] <rcjsuen> not sure, I don't use generics myself
[21:43:08] <Squirrel> im new to eclipse so its a lil rough of a start
[21:43:35] <konigsberg> Squirrel, can you provide more details, please?
[21:44:31] <Squirrel> I have a generic interface..and when i add a new class and in the wizard for doing that i add my interface to the interfaces impelmented....and then create the class...it makes a non-generic class
[21:44:50] <Squirrel> and the generic type K becomes Object in the return from the method stubs it generates
[21:45:28] <konigsberg> Oh I see.
[21:47:36] <konigsberg> OK I tried it out.
[21:47:41] <konigsberg> Here's how the wizard works.
[21:48:14] <konigsberg> Add the interface as you expect in the Wizard.
[21:48:23] <konigsberg> Don't click Finish.
[21:48:39] <konigsberg> However, in the list of interfaces, single click the interface with the parameterized type.
[21:48:39] <Squirrel> konigsberg, ok im at that point
[21:48:49] <konigsberg> It becomes a little text window.
[21:49:03] <konigsberg> So let's say your interface class was interface Asdf<T>
[21:49:20] <konigsberg> Now that you have the text window, and it's got "Asdf", you just add on <String>.
[21:49:25] <konigsberg> So it looks like "Asdf<String>"
[21:49:29] <konigsberg> And then finish.
[21:49:41] <konigsberg> Do you see what I mean?
[21:49:47] <konigsberg> BTW, this may only work in a newer version of Eclipse.
[21:49:52] <konigsberg> So if it doesn't work for you, let me know.
[21:49:59] <Squirrel> konigsberg, i see, do i have to do that to the little text of my class name too ?
[21:50:04] <konigsberg> No
[21:50:17] <konigsberg> Go ahead and try it. Click Finish.
[21:51:13] <Squirrel> it works, though it only made my class generic when i actually made the class name generic with a <T> thing too - it then went ahead and added the method stubs properly
[21:51:44] <konigsberg> OK great
[21:52:32] <Squirrel> konigsberg, thanks for the help
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[21:53:56] <konigsberg> NP
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[21:59:20] <SKuhn> rcjsuen: the blocking bug is filed and fixed, but rather than updating current linux-TPTP with the fix, they've just put it into the next version.
[21:59:50] <rcjsuen> SKuhn: did you open a bug asking them to backport?
[22:01:21] <SKuhn> rcjsuen: no, but the bug is a total blocker (no TPTP with linux), therefore a backport should be as a matter of course
[22:02:14] <rcjsuen> SKuhn: Did you comment on the bug?
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[22:04:11] <SKuhn> no, but what for a kind of testing platform is it if they're not able to track these obvious bugs :(
[22:04:25] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[22:04:41] <rcjsuen> SKuhn: Well, them flying back into "Incubation" wouldn't make them any more alert I think. ;)
[22:06:25] <SKuhn> actually it's working now, I've downloaded the newest builds and just copied the TPTP packages (because they've got EMF deps too, but I need EMF productive) in the plugin-dir
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[22:07:06] <SKuhn> some features of the 'patched' TPTP broke, but it looks like the patched one is working now
[22:07:37] <SKuhn> with some side effects like every 3rd eclipse start, org.eclipse isn't recognized any more :)
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[23:32:00] <arooni> how do i initiate find/replace with a keyboard shortcut
[23:32:37] <dominikg> arooni, try ctrl-shift-l , it shows a list of available shortcuts
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[23:44:26] <eidolon> hmm, anyone used the 'dynamic web project' project type in eclipse?  i have a bunch of jars that i want to be built into the war file to run into tomcat, but they're not being added.  i think it's becuse they're tagged as 'external jar libraries' - can i tell the build to load them in on the war build, or should i import them directdly into the project, or?
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