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[00:22:57] <juacom99> hi
[00:23:15] <juacom99> is posible to make something like this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55424/ in java 6?
[00:23:49] <juacom99> *http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/55425/
[00:23:51] <rcjsuen> juacom99: Try and find out?
[00:24:11] <juacom99> i can't
[00:24:12] <rcjsuen> 24 and 25 looks like the same thing to me
[00:24:31] <juacom99> a point affter the 25000000
[00:24:40] <juacom99> that was wrong on 24
[00:24:47] <juacom99> i can't do that
[00:24:54] <rcjsuen> can't do what
[00:24:58] <rcjsuen> can't put a period?
[00:25:01] <juacom99> no
[00:25:09] <juacom99> asing a value to a enum
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[00:27:20] <rcjsuen> juacom99: if javac fails and the Eclipse compiler fails, then i guess not
[00:27:54] <juacom99> i'll have to make a methood fot that then
[00:27:59] <juacom99> thanks anyway
[00:29:03] <rcjsuen> juacom99: you could ask in ##java
[00:29:10] <rcjsuen> I don't use Java 5 or 6, so I'm not too familiar with enums myself.
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[00:31:54] <juacom99> i can get in there :S
[00:33:13] <rcjsuen> juacom99: You need to register yourself with nickserv. /msg nickserv help
[00:33:40] <juacom99> i'm registred
[00:33:51] <rcjsuen> by "i can get in there :S"
[00:33:54] <rcjsuen> you meant "i can't get in there :S
[00:33:55] <rcjsuen> right
[00:34:12] <juacom99> i can't get in ##java
[00:34:19] <rcjsuen> register
[00:34:21] <rcjsuen> and then you need to identify
[00:34:32] <rcjsuen> so /msg nickserv identify mypassword
[00:34:36] <juacom99> i'm already registred and identificed
[00:34:37] <rcjsuen> then try to /join ##java
[00:34:46] <rcjsuen> I can get in just fine.
[00:34:50] <rcjsuen> So you must be missing a step
[00:34:53] <juacom99> i can't :S
[00:34:54] <rcjsuen> Or did you get banned?
[00:35:10] <rcjsuen> Well, I don't know if they ban people, I don't really hang out there.
[00:35:11] <juacom99> i never het in there in the first pleace :S
[00:35:23] <rcjsuen> So what happens when yo utry to /join ##java?
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[00:37:51] <juacom99> nothing
[00:38:02] <juacom99> i type /join ##java
[00:38:04] <juacom99> and nothing
[00:38:08] <rcjsuen> Check your 'server' tab.
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[00:45:05] <juacom99> is thot there too
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[01:15:27] <yrlnry> Where can I find a glossary of the 57 little icons that Eclipse uses in the Package Explorer view?
[01:16:32] <rcjsuen> yrlnry: I usually just browse the plug-in's icons/ folder
[01:17:09] <yrlnry> Are all the icons provided by plugins?
[01:17:35] <rcjsuen> yrlnry: pretty much
[01:17:38] <yrlnry> Thanks.
[01:17:41] <rcjsuen> they have to come from somewhere ;)
[01:18:43] <rcjsuen> yrlnry: http://blogs.codehaus.org/people/bwalding/archives/000779_icons_borrowed_from_eclipse.html
[01:19:16] <yrlnry> Thanks again.
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[01:49:24] <Dalorin> hi there
[01:49:33] <rcjsuen> Dalorin: Hi
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[01:51:18] <Dalorin> i've got PDT installed
[01:51:26] <Dalorin> but i can't get it to publish my project to my local webserver
[01:51:46] <Dalorin> should i just point eclipse to my web server's document root and save everything there?
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[02:12:45] <CodeWar> I should probably file a bug but I m seeing the CDT indexer for 4.0.2 on Linux is terrible. The exact same version on windows does intellisense perfectly on the same codebase
[02:12:50] <CodeWar> are there known issues?
[02:13:05] <rcjsuen> CodeWar: Best to check bugzilla.
[02:13:08] <CodeWar> it almost renders CDT useless compared to emacs since this is one place that emacs really lacks
[02:13:20] <CodeWar> let me create an account ...
[02:13:41] <rcjsuen> CodeWar: to query you don't need an account i think
[02:14:27] <CodeWar> thats correct
[02:16:13] <CodeWar> sadly I dont see any bug that says the indexer is totally useless.. guess our code base must really test it
[02:16:34] <CodeWar> dont think I can file a bug w/o sharing my company's code base i ll just wait till it gets better :-(
[02:17:09] <rcjsuen> CodeWar: But you said it's fine on Windows.
[02:17:16] <rcjsuen> So wouldn't that be a discrepancy?
[02:17:32] <rcjsuen> CodeWar: Does it work at all? For (really) small projects?
[02:17:33] <CodeWar> yes it works exactly like it should on windows but I work only on Linux
[02:17:57] <CodeWar> ours is a huge code base about a million lines of code  20K files and it works on windows
[02:18:33] <rcjsuen> I meant, does the indexer work at all on Linux.
[02:18:34] <CodeWar> except it cannot lookup macro definitions but who cares.. it pulls out structures and functions fine
[02:19:00] <CodeWar> yes it can tell me the type of a structure but does not prompt on its contents
[02:19:24] <rcjsuen> sounds like a bug
[02:19:55] <CodeWar> is the underlying parser in Java? Shouldnt behaviours be the same across platforms then?
[02:20:05] <rcjsuen> I think it's in Java.
[02:20:13] <rcjsuen> I remember reading somewhere about it.
[02:20:16] * rcjsuen shrugs at CodeWar.
[02:20:34] <rcjsuen> Well, just because something's supposed to be cross-platform doesn't really mean anything ;)
[02:21:01] <CodeWar> I would move over to Java totally if I could but drivers need C++ and I dont want to use two different IDEs
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[02:27:54] <The_8472> well... Eclipse can do C++ too
[02:27:57] <The_8472> sortof
[02:29:55] <CodeWar> The_8472 I m finding the CDT support for C++ is not really industrial strength even emacs beats it except for the parser thing
[02:30:42] <CodeWar> and add to it the bloat of eclipse.. its just not !/$
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[02:31:12] <The_8472> well, if you're using eclipse anyway it's not so bad
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[02:31:30] <The_8472> but yeah, the CDT capabilities are still quite limited, although they've improved over the last few versions
[02:31:38] <The_8472> the new toolchain detection works pretty well for example
[02:32:55] <CodeWar> yes which is why I m rooting for CDT to be a success. I can stick to one IDE for all purposes then. I d left emacs a long time back but now am forced to go back
[02:33:32] <CodeWar> I dont so much mind their toolchain support I m used to my own makefiles / Jamfiles but code completion is a strict must
[02:34:05] <The_8472> true true
[02:34:15] <The_8472> although there isn't much to complete in C :P
[02:34:43] <CodeWar> The_8472: i deal with ugly legacy code where structures have tons of ugly members
[02:35:31] * The_8472 hates C/C++ for its macros, templating, header files, single pass compiler and various other reasons
[02:35:53] <The_8472> i hope D will get some more attention at some point
[02:38:09] <CodeWar> there is a D? :)
[02:38:29] <CodeWar> yes I have no love for C++ ( which I hate more than C) atleast the latter is simple
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[02:41:07] <The_8472> http://digitalmars.com/D
[02:41:38] <The_8472> err
[02:41:39] <The_8472> http://digitalmars.com/d/index.html
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[02:42:48] <The_8472> read and you'll drool over it...
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[02:44:27] <CodeWar> even has contracts ( by which I assume eiffel style )
[02:44:45] <The_8472> invariance checks and stuff
[02:45:09] <CodeWar> yes yes I do funny things in Java to get that. I ve read JContractor does it but I prefer my own implementation
[02:45:39] <The_8472> and it supports implicit setters/getters for visible fields too
[02:46:01] <CodeWar> who is backing it?
[02:47:23] <The_8472> no idea
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[03:57:44] <Tinason> am i able to use eclipse to do ALL of my web (html, css, javascript, php, perl, etc..), java and c programming?
[03:59:15] <rcjsuen> Tinason: If there's a plug-in for it, it should be possible, it really depends on your needs.
[04:03:57] <Tinason> thats awesome
[04:04:23] <rcjsuen> There
[04:04:29] <rcjsuen> There's a plug-in for varoius languages.
[04:04:38] <rcjsuen> Some commercial, some free, some open source, some are mature, some aren't.
[04:04:41] <rcjsuen> It really depends on the user.
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[05:08:58] <bladezor> Hey, does anyone know why instead of picking my run favorite, when I click run it keeps popping up with other selections..?
[05:09:27] <rcjsuen> Can't say I've ever used favourites.
[05:09:56] <bladezor> Well, still, I don't understand why it's popping up the run dialog when It's a C++ project
[05:10:11] <rcjsuen> what are you exactly clicking on
[05:10:40] <bladezor> The run button
[05:11:06] <rcjsuen> I don't have that problem.
[05:11:09] <nitind> Did you just upgrade to 3.3?
[05:11:12] <bladezor> It pops up
[05:11:17] <rcjsuen> but could be contextual launching i guess
[05:11:27] <rcjsuen> although i would've expected it to just run the last launched if there's no context
[05:11:28] <bladezor> I abit ago
[05:11:30] <rcjsuen> but maybe not
[05:11:47] <bladezor> nitind, I did a little bit ago and I guess that's when this problem started showing up
[05:13:35] <nitind> bladezor: Go to your "Launching" preference page under Run/Debug and look in the Launch Operation group.  Odds are it's not what you're expecting it to be.
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[05:15:29] <bladezor> Under Launching I don't see anything for Launch Operation
[05:15:38] <bladezor> I see Default Launchers and Launch Configurations
[05:16:43] <nitind> Did they change it again in 3.4?
[05:16:58] <bladezor> I dunno :\ I have 3.3.1.1
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[05:19:57] <nitind> Odds are it's still a preference somewhere under Run/Debug on 3.3.1.1.
[05:23:11] <rcjsuen> let's take a look see
[05:23:58] <rcjsuen> bladezor: Please take a screenshot of your 'Launching' preference page.
[05:24:03] <rcjsuen> Although I agree it's odd to have gone away
[05:24:06] <bladezor> k
[05:25:36] <rcjsuen> bladezor: http://archive.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.3-200706251500/whatsnew/images/launch-prefs.png
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[05:26:48] <bladezor> Oh yea
[05:26:50] <bladezor> I found it
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[05:27:08] <bladezor> Also, rcjsuen that's what I have it set to
[05:27:19] <rcjsuen> bladezor: Was it in Run/Debug / Launching?
[05:27:46] <bladezor> yea
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[05:33:27] <bladezor> rcjsuen, this is what pops up when I click run -> http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/9379/screenshotrunaskq0.png
[05:34:14] <nitind> That looks...different.
[05:34:41] <rcjsuen> well, i dunno how cdt handles launching of .cpp files
[05:34:50] <rcjsuen> it's not exactly the same in Java land with main methods
[05:35:00] <bladezor> It was working before4
[05:35:11] <bladezor> and ever since I installed the new Eclipse it's started acting up
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[07:58:51] <nvictor> hello all
[07:59:02] <nvictor> how do I set the tab space number in eclipse?
[07:59:24] <nvictor> I set the text editor display tab width to 2 (which I prefer), but even that is not working
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[09:12:46] <richmastaplus> I have a question about CDT... I have developed an application using CDT which autogenerates make files and I now have to deploy on to a command line only system.  Is there any support for regenerating the make files in a command line only environment, as I need to change the compiler on this system
[09:14:50] <nvictor> richmastaplus: can you help with tabs under eclipse?
[09:19:07] <richmastaplus> what does that mean
[09:19:56] <nvictor> well I'm trying to set the editor tab space to 2 spaces
[09:20:01] <nvictor> it does not work at all
[09:20:57] <richmastaplus> what programming language?
[09:21:02] <nvictor> Java
[09:21:23] <richmastaplus> sorry its been awhile since using eclipse with java
[09:21:39] <richmastaplus> setting tabs to use spaces has worked with PHP and C++ however
[09:22:00] <richmastaplus> for me anyways
[09:22:06] <nvictor> that's weird :(
[09:22:52] <richmastaplus> give the process of elimination a shot
[09:22:59] <richmastaplus> try other languages
[09:23:50] <nvictor> ok
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[11:42:42] <vdv> hi all
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[11:42:47] <vdv> anybody here?
[11:43:05] <vdv> how can deploy webapp in eclipse?
[11:43:44] <vdv> i.e. how can i make servlets, libs updated in webapp root when i launch app?
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[11:47:24] <answerer> look here vdv: http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.platform/msg32222.html
[11:47:24] <answerer> ok, thanks
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[12:20:35] <vdv> "Content Assist" did not complete normally
[12:20:40] <vdv> what that mean?
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[12:26:42] <rdw>  /var/www/cake overlaps the location of another project: 'cake' <-- how can i get rid of it?
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[12:39:24] <zaphands> Hello! How do I change the colors of the pop ups with the "press F2 to focus"?
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[13:03:10] <omry|work> is EMF suitable for models which are not java related? judging by it's name, I`d say that yes, but the Using EMF tutorial is very java specific (http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-Using%20EMF/using-emf.html)
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[13:04:57] <nitind> rdw: It means that /var/www is probably already set as a project, or something under /var/www/cake is.  Either way, the only thing you can do is remove that project from the workspace (I doubt you'll want to delete the files from the disk, though).
[13:06:06] <rdw> well, nitind there are no files... i just created /var/www/cake/cake so that i could include files from within subdirectories... it should have been /var/www/cake and now i can't remove my mistake
[13:07:49] <rdw> i removed the project and have got no projects in the projects explorer. but i can't add a new project to the specified location
[13:08:29] <Hanns> rdw try import
[13:09:20] <rdw> to import what exactly? i can't even select a php project
[13:10:03] <rdw> how can i delete all info about workspace and projects ??
[13:10:10] <Hanns> not too sure
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[13:22:24] <rkirmizi> what should i do to run just a single python file
[13:22:34] <vdv> hi all
[13:22:41] <rkirmizi> it 's always asking for me for the project
[13:22:45] <vdv> content assist here isn't working
[13:22:58] <rkirmizi> is it anyway to run only a piece of code in a just single file
[13:23:16] <rkirmizi> should i always use a class a project or sth. more than i do
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[13:26:00] <vdv> anybody alive?
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[13:32:41] <nitind> vdv: In which language?  In what kind of project?
[13:32:52] <vdv> java project
[13:33:05] <nitind> zaphands: Check your preferences under colors and fonts.
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[13:33:09] <vdv> when i press . suggestion list appears
[13:33:15] <nitind> vdv: Sounds ok so far.
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[13:33:30] <vdv> but when i select with arrows and press enter
[13:33:39] <vdv> then nothing inserts
[13:33:52] <vdv> and sometimes there's an error
[13:34:12] <vdv> "Content assist" didn't complete normally
[13:34:17] <nitind> vdv: And this is in the Java editor?  Which version, and obtained from where?
[13:34:29] <vdv> with an exception in a log file
[13:35:02] <vdv> yeah, java perspective
[13:35:16] <nitind> perspective != editor.
[13:35:21] <vdv> Version: 3.2.1
[13:35:52] <vdv> ok. but think it's java editor anyway
[13:36:19] <rdw> how can i delete all info about workspace and projects ??
[13:36:24] <vdv> i'm openning .java file from package explorer
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[13:52:37] <aburns> Using pdt-all-in-one with TM plugins (rse-core and rse-ftp 2.02) to upload to an FTP server, I chose the root path as the destination on the server, it does the actual upload ok, but always prefixes the path with the project's path, I can't see anywhere to alter this behaviour to keep to the root, did I miss something?
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[13:55:02] <aburns> rcjsuen: was it you who directed me to TM plugins for FTP yesterday?
[13:55:21] <rcjsuen> aburns: Maybe, I think so.
[13:56:09] <aburns> rcjsuen: thanks, I more or less got it working, I just asked a question before you entered the room.
[13:56:24] <aburns> REPEAT: Using pdt-all-in-one with TM plugins (rse-core and rse-ftp 2.02) to upload to an FTP server, I chose the root path as the destination on the server, it does the actual upload ok, but always prefixes the path with the project's path, I can't see anywhere to alter this behaviour to keep to the root, did I miss something?
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[14:06:12] <Gromgull> i accidentally started 3.2 on a workspace I worked on with 3.3, it complained it could not restore the perspective, so I shutdown 3.2 and return to 3.3, but now all my projects are disconnected from SVN... the .svn folders are still there though...
[14:06:48] <rcjsuen> Gromgull: Just Team > Share and do it again
[14:07:00] <rcjsuen> i'd imagine it knows ohw to reconnect
[14:08:22] <Gromgull> ok - i'll try
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[14:19:19] <alecs> hi!
[14:20:15] <rcjsuen> alecs: ~hi
[14:20:16] <KOS-MOS> Welcome to #eclipse! If you have a question, just go ahead and ask. :) Or, type ~faq for a link to the Frequently Asked Questions. If you have errors or logs to paste, use a ~pastebin. If you have screenshots to share, see ~imagebin.
[14:20:26] <alecs> i have installed Eclipse 3.2 from my deb repository. the main problem is that i want to use pdt plugin.
[14:20:52] <alecs> and i really don't know a way to install pdt and all dependencies
[14:21:01] <alecs> could you help me ?
[14:21:02] <rcjsuen> alecs: You'll have to use the 0.7 build.
[14:21:16] <rcjsuen> ~pdt-install
[14:21:17] <KOS-MOS> Trying to install PDT? See http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/Installation
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[14:47:58] <vdv> hi all
[14:49:25] <alecs> i get PDT Feature (1.0.2.v20080102-79-7GE7QYGHNGPGY) requires feature "org.eclipse.wst (2.0.0)", or compatible.
[14:49:30] <alecs> ** "PDT Feature (1.0.2.v20080102-79-7GE7QYGHNGPGY) requires feature "org.eclipse.wst (2.0.0)", or compatible."
[14:50:03] <rcjsuen> <alecs> i get PDT Feature (1.0.2.v20080102-79-7GE7QYGHNGPGY) <rcjsuen> alecs: You'll have to use the 0.7 build.
[14:50:13] <alecs> ahh
[14:50:14] <alecs> ok
[14:50:27] <rcjsuen> alecs: Or you could get Eclipse 3.3.
[14:51:00] <alecs> i've took this way .....   Eclipse 3.2 / Callisto / PDT 0.7
[14:51:03] <alecs> from
[14:51:10] <alecs> http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/Installation
[14:51:48] <rcjsuen> Did you tell it to show all features?
[14:51:51] <rcjsuen> And not just the latest?
[14:52:10] <alecs> ahh
[14:52:16] <alecs> ok ... i will
[14:52:20] <alecs> let me to try
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[14:58:22] <rcjsuen> alecs: Although I'd just get the PDT All-In-One if I were you (assuming you're on 32-bit Linux).
[14:59:29] <alecs> well 64 bit linux
[14:59:51] <rcjsuen> Well, okay
[14:59:58] <rcjsuen> I'd get Eclipse 3.3 and PDT 1.0 instead, let's say.
[15:00:01] <alecs> and version 0.7  chashes when i try to install it
[15:00:18] <rcjsuen> Somehow, I'm not too surprised.
[15:00:49] <alecs> why is that ?
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[15:11:52] <rcjsuen> alecs: Because we often have people coming in with problems with their distribution's Eclipse. Usually Ubuntu / Debian folks. (Of course, a lot of people use Ubuntu and Debian, but anyway)
[15:12:14] <alecs> ahh
[15:12:16] <alecs> ok
[15:12:21] <alecs> i see ...
[15:12:46] <alecs> ubuntu is more popular and user frindly than suse or other ...
[15:12:59] <rcjsuen> alecs: so when people come in with problems, we tell them to either a) report a bug to their distro's package distribution team, or b) get Eclipse from eclipes.org
[15:13:34] <rcjsuen> alecs: Well, I've only used Gentoo, but yes, I've heard many good things about Ubuntu. Whether it's more user-friendly than say, SuSE or Fedora, I have no idea.
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[15:14:53] * gsson has used a bunch of different BSDs/Linuxes, and the most user friendly way of using eclipse is clearly to use the eclipse.org version
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[15:18:42] <alecs> ok
[15:19:08] <alecs> i've downloaded pdt Please select a mirror for pdt-all-in-one-S20071213_M1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[15:19:17] <rcjsuen> alecs: don't get that
[15:19:21] <alecs> but
[15:19:22] <alecs> ?
[15:19:22] <rcjsuen> you're on 64-bit, that's a 32-bit build
[15:19:31] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> alecs: Although I'd just get the PDT All-In-One if I were you (assuming you're on 32-bit Linux).
[15:19:37] <rcjsuen> hence my remark in parentheses
[15:19:44] <alecs> yes
[15:20:01] <rcjsuen> alecs: the process is described in the wiki
[15:20:06] <rcjsuen> "If there is no All-In-One for your platform, try one of the options below."
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[15:29:07] <gsson> Is there any (simple) way of getting FEEDBACK_INSERT_BEFORE/FEEDBACK_INSERT_AFTER to work in a TableViewer?
[15:29:36] <gsson> I tried switching to a TreeViewer just to get that, but the performance hit was too great
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[15:44:55] <patrin70> hi all, I'm developing an RCP application and I would include the capability feature available in the platform
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[15:45:08] <patrin70> which plugin I need to include as dependency of my RCP
[15:45:10] <patrin70> ?
[15:46:22] <rcjsuen> patrin70: that should be contributed by the workbench
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[15:50:18] <patrin70> I already include org.eclipse.ui.workbench plugin as a dependency, but I cannot see the Capability menu in the preferences page
[15:50:42] <patrin70> do I need to add some other plugin ?
[15:52:21] <patrin70> I defined some activity using the org.eclipse.ui.activities ext point
[15:52:37] <patrin70> but apparently they don't work for me...
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[15:56:56] <rcjsuen> patrin70: you need to look in plugin.xml files and see which plug-in is contributing that preference page
[15:57:29] <patrin70> ok, thx.. I'll try to take a look at CVS
[15:58:34] <patrin70> but do you think that this missing plugin could be the reason why my activities don't work ?
[15:58:43] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[15:58:46] <rcjsuen> I don't use activities
[15:59:27] <patrin70> I've defined an activity to suppress "unwanted" contributions, do you know another way to achieve this ?
[15:59:47] <rcjsuen> well, you could use xsl transforms
[16:01:08] <rcjsuen> As I expected, it's the SDK plug-in (org.eclipse.sdk) that contributes the preference page.
[16:07:19] <patrin70> yes, I found it...
[16:07:35] <patrin70> it is just a matter of adding a preference page in my RCP application
[16:07:46] <patrin70> I added a Capabilities page pointing to this class org.eclipse.ui.activities.ActivitiesPreferencePage
[16:07:55] <rcjsuen> yes, you could do that
[16:07:58] <patrin70> under the category org.eclipse.ui.preferencePages.Workbench
[16:08:09] <patrin70> with ID: org.eclipse.sdk.capabilities
[16:08:19] <patrin70> and I got the menu in the usual place...
[16:08:29] <rcjsuen> patrin70: Yes, that's a solution.
[16:08:33] <patrin70> thanks al lot for pointing me in the right direction
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[16:19:49] <_ergo_> hello did someone had a good result running  3.4M5 with PDT ?
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[16:20:15] <Xenon75> Hi everybody
[16:20:22] <rcjsuen> Xenon75: Hi
[16:21:28] <Xenon75> I am stuck with a SWT problem... Is there a way to be notified by a Tree in a TreeViewer when an element is added to the tree?
[16:23:16] <rcjsuen> Don't you know when something's been added anyway?
[16:23:19] <rcjsuen> Aren't you adding to the tree?
[16:23:29] <rcjsuen> Items don't grow on trees, you add them.
[16:23:42] <Xenon75> ehm :) I'll tell you the whole story :)
[16:23:57] <Xenon75> I have a content provider that makes use of a DeferredTreeContentManager to provide elements. I use that content provider in a Tree with checkboxes. Now I simply want to check the elements that are in a given set (in order to display the current content of that set)
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[16:24:48] <Xenon75> In order to check the items I added listeners to the expand element, so that when a node is expanded I can, for every item, check if it is in the set and then call item.setChecked(true)
[16:24:59] <Xenon75> the problem is that with the deferred content manager
[16:25:36] <Xenon75> when I expand a node I get two TreeItems: the expanded tree item and the "Pending..." tree item.
[16:26:26] <Xenon75> when the DeferredContentManager adds more elements asynchronously I don't get notified so I cannot check the corresponding TreeItems
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[16:27:48] <Xenon75> I don't know if it's clear :)
[16:30:01] <_ergo_> is there a way i can run eclipse 32bit on a 64bit windows ?
[16:30:44] <rcjsuen> _ergo_: Use a 32-bit JRE.
[16:31:19] <rcjsuen> Xenon75: Don't think what you want is possible. The Tree's just a widget.
[16:31:29] <rcjsuen> You can set a job listener to the DTCM in 3.4.
[16:31:34] <rcjsuen> Dunno will that help you
[16:32:02] <_ergo_> rcjsuen : but i have problems with wizard ie. creating new projects etc. under win xp64bit , got advice here some time ago to use 3.4 64bit, but it has big issues with PDT etc. and i cant work now :/
[16:32:44] <Xenon75> rcjsuen: So I should change the GUI for displaying that information
[16:33:02] <robinr> How can I force the quickdiff to be refreshed?
[16:33:03] <rcjsuen> _ergo_: say what now, you have problems running 32-bit eclipse with 32-bit jre?
[16:33:14] <robinr> Editor content hasn't changed, but the reference has
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[16:34:00] <_ergo_> rcjsuen, eclipse 3.3 work , but when i try to add a new project in navigator i get empty wizard screen wih no options
[16:34:12] <Xenon75> rcjsuen: thanks anyway
[16:34:27] <_ergo_> ill try to download 3.3.1.1 and try again
[16:34:36] <rcjsuen> _ergo_: oh, the empty wizard
[16:34:44] <rcjsuen> _ergo_: that's a 64-bit problem on 3.3.x that you need 3.4.x for
[16:34:54] <rcjsuen> which is what you're referring to probably "got advice here some time ago to use 3.4 64bit"
[16:35:07] <_ergo_> ergh... ;-) so im doomed for now ? ;-)
[16:35:25] <rcjsuen> _ergo_: Use a 32-bit JRE with 32-bit Eclipes, you get the same wizard problem?
[16:35:39] <_ergo_> ill test it now
[16:35:51] <_ergo_> downloading latest stable eclipse now
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[16:36:09] <Zerone> ello :)(
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[16:50:06] <_ergo_> rcjsuen : , it seems that eclipse is now working fine after i installed another JRE
[16:50:15] <_ergo_> ill confirm that in a moment to be 100% sure
[16:50:47] <_ergo_> thank you for advice
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[17:14:49] <multi_io> I have a project "common" that exports its library dependencies (Build Path/Order and Export). I have another project "worker" that has "common" on its build path. In the source code of worker, Eclipse's autocompletion finds classes that are defined in one of common's libraries, but the compiler does not find them (Xxx cannot be resolved as a type; the import xxx cannot be resolved etc). Why??
[17:18:40] <multi_io> well, restarting Eclipse git rid of the error.
[17:18:42] <multi_io> *got
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[17:20:04] <ed_mann> is there a way to remove a cookie from the browser? Internal or external that is launched from Eclipse?
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[17:34:15] <zaphands_> Hello! How do I change the colors of the pop ups with the "press F2 to focus"?
[17:34:37] <zaphands_> How are these pop ups called?
[17:34:40] <rcjsuen> zaphands_: Check the preferences.
[17:34:49] <rcjsuen> they're call text hovers at the API level
[17:35:15] <Zerone> ello rcjsuen :)
[17:35:26] <rcjsuen> Zerone: Hi
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[18:00:53] <zaphands_> There seems to be no way to change the hover's colors.
[18:01:21] <rcjsuen> zaphands_: then make an enhancement reqest
[18:07:20] <The_8472> zaphands_, they use the tooltip colors
[18:08:11] <zaphands_> where?
[18:08:15] <The_8472> that's inherited from your system
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[18:08:54] <vdv> hi all
[18:09:46] <vdv> when i'm updating, how can i make already donwloaded stuff not to vanish when suddenly internet connection lost?
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[18:18:28] <zaphands_> The_8472 Is there anything I can do if I want the colors inverted from the colors in my system and still be able to see something in the hovers?
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[18:19:17] <The_8472> zaphands_, well the hovers should inherit tooltip foreground and background colors from your system
[18:19:35] <The_8472> so if they are visible in your system they should also be visible in eclipse
[18:20:51] <zaphands_> but if the hovers also show my very bright c syntax over the very bright tooltip background color then I can't see anything written in them.
[18:22:06] <The_8472> though i ponder why you can live with your system colors for every application except eclipse...
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[18:24:09] <dmilith> is there anything better than subclipse for svn managing?
[18:24:23] <The_8472> subversive maybe?
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[18:26:48] <dmilith> The_8472: thanks.. will try cause subeclipse causing errors here
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[19:28:06] <matt1982> hey guys i tried to install PDT on my machine however I think it has somehow installed eclipse and not all the extra bits or maybe they are not setup correctly. It doesn't highlight any php syntax for example. I did have eclipse installed previously but i removed that and then installed PDT all in one. Any ideas?
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[19:28:57] <rcjsuen> matt1982: ~info ~logs
[19:28:58] <KOS-MOS> Please state your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), your Java runtime environment (unless you checked in your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, you do not know _for sure_, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), your Eclipse version, and where did you download Eclipse from.
[19:28:58] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[19:30:11] <matt1982> 2 seconds i will test that
[19:30:28] <matt1982> i know im on x86 32bit and its linux the OS
[19:30:54] <matt1982> ~jre
[19:30:55] <KOS-MOS> Please verify your Java runtime environment - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_find_out_which_Java_runtime_environment_is_being_used_to_run_my_Eclipse.3F
[19:31:11] <matt1982> i also downloaded it from the official PDT site
[19:31:28] <matt1982> the packages seem to be there in the configuration menu under "help"
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[19:33:11] <matt1982> i have java version 1.4.2 and eclipse version 3.3.1.1
[19:37:00] <rcjsuen> matt1982: you dowlnoaded pdt all-in-one?
[19:37:05] <matt1982> yes
[19:37:11] <matt1982> thats why im a little stumped
[19:37:14] <rcjsuen> matt1982: did you read the requirements?
[19:37:30] <rcjsuen> http://download.eclipse.org/tools/pdt/downloads/release.php?release=S20071213-M1
[19:37:35] <rcjsuen> PDT All-in-One package includes the complete set of software to start using PDT immediately. This package already has PDT combined with the complete set of prerequisites. Note that in addition you will need a Java runtime environment 5 (JRE 5) to use All-in-One package
[19:37:39] <rcjsuen> matt1982: you need Java 5
[19:37:44] <matt1982> ahh right
[19:37:53] <matt1982> that must be where i am going wrong
[19:37:58] <matt1982> i thought i had that installed
[19:38:27] <matt1982> can two versions of java be installed together?
[19:38:39] <matt1982> that may be something else I have done wrong
[19:38:48] <rcjsuen> matt1982: I have 3 installed by Gentoo's Portage just fine.
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[19:39:09] <matt1982> i will go and try and install version 5 now
[19:39:13] <matt1982> is that 1.5??
[19:39:19] <rcjsuen> yes, same thing
[19:39:27] <matt1982> cool thanks
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[19:55:33] <awj> If I wanted to start adding a feature to DTP, does anyone have any pointers on where I could get basic build information?
[19:56:12] <rcjsuen> awj: I would try toi dentify the plug-ins i need, check them out from CVS, and mod the code
[19:56:22] <awj> I downloaded the datatools modules from CVS HEAD, but it appears they have a number of different release lines all in the same module.
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[19:57:17] <awj> For instance, I want to add some features to the basic connectivity package, but o.e.d.connectivity has a number of top level directories (e.g. R1.0, R1.5)
[19:57:31] <awj> And I thought the upcoming release was going to be 1.6
[19:58:09] <rcjsuen> say what now
[19:58:17] <rcjsuen> awj: do you have a link to the ViewVC web interface?
[19:58:32] <awj> I'm sure I can find one quick...one second.
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[19:59:18] <awj> http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.datatools.connectivity/?root=Datatools_Project
[19:59:51] <rcjsuen> awj: I'd just look in plugins/
[20:00:05] <rcjsuen> That's probably their "version" of HEAD.
[20:01:33] <matt1982> right now I have java version 1.5 yet my PDT still doesn't seem to be any different to the normal eclipse
[20:01:44] <matt1982> Any ideas on what it could be?
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[20:02:05] <awj> matt1982: What are you expecting to be different?
[20:02:19] <rcjsuen> matt1982: Help > About Eclipse SDK > Plug-in Details, is org.eclipse.php there?
[20:02:24] <matt1982> well PDT highlights syntax
[20:02:27] <matt1982> i will check
[20:02:57] <rcjsuen> matt1982: And did you check Configuration Detalis to make sure you are using Java 5?
[20:03:08] <matt1982> rcjsuen, yes there are a few PHP plugins
[20:03:15] <matt1982> the config says now java 1.5
[20:03:33] <matt1982> java.specification.version=1.5
[20:03:40] <rcjsuen> matt1982: did you check your logs?
[20:03:55] <matt1982> ahh no sorry i will do that now
[20:07:26] <matt1982> ~pastebin
[20:07:26] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[20:08:56] <matt1982> right here is the info from my log file http://pastebin.ca/898924 that is from my workspace metadata section
[20:09:16] <matt1982> there looks to be a few problems i think
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[20:14:31] <rcjsuen> matt1982: Hi, can you delete / rename your .log file and restart Eclipse so we get a fresh one?
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[20:21:41] <malcom2073> Question: I am trying to include SDL in my project, how do I tell eclipse to include the .a files? I've tried adding them to the "library" folder, but that dosent seem to work, it's still not linking against them
[20:22:12] <malcom2073> erm sorry heh. I'm using C/C++ version of eclipse
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[20:22:32] <Mician> hi all
[20:22:42] <matt1982> rcjsuen, yeah i will do that now thanks
[20:22:47] <rcjsuen> Mician: Hi
[20:22:54] <rcjsuen> matt1982: thx
[20:22:55] <The_8472> malcom2073, i think you have to add the path in the linker config
[20:23:01] <The_8472> not sure though
[20:24:44] <matt1982> rcjsuen, i just restarted it but there is no log file there
[20:25:34] <malcom2073> For the life of me, I cant find the linker config again
[20:26:05] <rcjsuen> matt1982: I figured.
[20:26:35] <matt1982> so no errors in that one just looked in the others and there is no other log files in the other folders
[20:27:10] <rcjsuen> matt1982: Window > Open Perspective > Other, you don't see anything related to PHP there?
[20:29:16] <matt1982> hmm yeah PHP is there
[20:29:45] <matt1982> ive clicked it rcjsuen
[20:29:57] <malcom2073> oops I just crashed eclipse
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[20:30:49] <matt1982> rcjsuen, its not highlighting syntax still
[20:31:05] <rcjsuen> matt1982: Are you opening PHP files?
[20:31:10] <rcjsuen> I mean, .php files
[20:31:16] <matt1982> yeh .php files
[20:31:24] <matt1982> i will try create a new one see what happens
[20:31:25] <rcjsuen> matt1982: If you right-click, Open With >
[20:31:53] <matt1982> yeah just tried the php editor but still nothing
[20:32:16] <rcjsuen> check your logs
[20:32:23] <matt1982> ok will do that now
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[20:32:57] <matt1982> ooh there is a file there now
[20:33:04] <matt1982> i will copy and paste it
[20:34:10] <malcom2073> The_8472: I added the .a file to the linked resources, and it still isnt linking against it, is that the wrong place?
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[20:34:36] <matt1982> rcjsuen, is the new log file http://pastebin.ca/898963
[20:35:15] <rcjsuen> matt1982: They shouldn't really prevent syntax highlighting from working.
[20:35:42] <matt1982> hmm is there a way to turn it on and off? maybe i knocked it off by accident
[20:35:51] <rcjsuen> Dunno, I don't do PHP.
[20:36:05] <matt1982> ahh cool well cheers for the help anyway
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[20:38:58] <malcom2073> Anyone? How to link against an external library? Just adding it to the projects "library" list isnt enough
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[21:00:50] <lordmetroid_> Where do I specify where my compiler is located and build command, etc?
[21:01:12] <rcjsuen> lordmetroid_: You might want to specify what language you're talking about.
[21:01:17] <lordmetroid_> C++
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[21:31:52] <SmallR2883> is there a sqlite editor for eclipse3.3/linux?
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[21:32:33] <rcjsuen> ~searchplugins sqlite
[21:32:34] <KOS-MOS> Try searching for plug-ins: http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/modules.php?name=search&action=search&q=sqlite - http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/search.jsp?query=sqlite
[21:32:37] <namespace> hello there
[21:32:48] <rcjsuen> ~hi namespace
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[21:33:58] <aib42> ~searchplugins tail
[21:33:58] <KOS-MOS> Try searching for plug-ins: http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/modules.php?name=search&action=search&q=tail - http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/search.jsp?query=tail
[21:34:22] <SmallR2883> rcjsuen, the data tools plugin is nice, but doesn't seem to support sqlite
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[21:36:22] <namespace> uhm, alright, i have eclipse installed, i'm able to compile and debug a simple c++ application, and now i would like to import and existing application to debug and fix its source code. As an example i've tried doing this with Amarok but it wouldn't compile, when i open main.cpp and hit compile it tells me : "Errors exist in a required project. Continue launch? [yes] [no]" i hit yes and i get: "An internal error occured during "Launchin
[21:36:22] <namespace> help is appreciated!
[21:36:23] <mohbana> hi does commit upload everything to the cvs server?
[21:39:47] <rcjsuen> mohbana: It commits whatever you have specified to commit.
[21:39:54] <rcjsuen> namespace: Check your logs.
[21:41:38] <mohbana> does anyone have any idea what this means command. http://pastebin.com/m357a44fa
[21:41:39] <namespace> rcjuen: in which logs can i find useful information?
[21:43:24] <rcjsuen> ~tell namespace about logs
[21:43:25] <KOS-MOS> namespace: Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[21:44:06] <malcom2073> Arg, I cant get QT running in eclipse without using the QT eclipse integration package.
[21:44:20] <malcom2073> And that package makes it impossible to use other libraries
[21:44:44] <aib42> malcom2073: you're using CDT right?
[21:45:07] <malcom2073> Right
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[21:46:05] <namespace> KOS-MOS: Thank you.... oh man i'll look into that tomorrow at work or... maybe later today when i have some more time....thank you :)
[21:46:05] <namespace> i'll ttyl guys, cya
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[21:46:19] <malcom2073> I've tried doing a makefile project too so I can use qmake and have it auto-moc
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[21:46:28] <malcom2073> The program compiles, but wont run
[21:46:33] <malcom2073> I click run, and nothing happens.
[21:47:24] <aib42> weird. I'd check the QT thing's logfiles to make sure you're not missing any compiler/linker parameters or even other command lines
[21:48:20] <malcom2073> I'm trying, I cant find the log files
[21:48:29] <aib42> oh, also 'run' uses the porject directory as the current directory. maybe QT did something else.
[21:48:38] <malcom2073> that could be
[21:48:54] <malcom2073> but because the QT's project is missing half the "project properties" options, I cant check that
[21:49:57] <aib42> that's sad, really
[21:50:02] <malcom2073> It is
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[22:00:33] <mohbana> how can i delete a project in cvs
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[22:06:25] <aib42> I'm trying to install the tail plugin - http://sourceforge.net/projects/eclipsetail/. I've extracted the archive contents to my eclipse's plugins/ dir. How can I check if it's installed? How do I use this plugin, if anyone here's familiar with it?
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[22:07:05] <rcjsuen> aib42: To check, Help > About Eclipse SDK > Plug-in Details, and see if it's there.
[22:07:22] <rcjsuen> mohbana: That's more of a generic question for the CVS guys.
[22:07:33] <rcjsuen> There might be a #cvs on FreeNode, Google should give you some useful resources.
[22:08:51] <aib42> that dialog was a bit cluttered, but I've noticed the 'id' column now. it's not there. would an error be in the log files mentioned above if it failed to load?
[22:09:22] <aib42> hold on. if it's org.jdt.eclipsetail_0.5.0 , does that mean I can't use it with CDT or another, hmm "perspective" ?
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[22:10:23] <aib42> if it depends on the JDT, I don't have that installed, either.
[22:10:26] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[22:10:58] <rcjsuen> from the code in CVS, it doesn't look like it needs jdt
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[22:17:15] <aib42> well *sigh*, it's not loading. I guess I'll find another tail plugin
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[22:17:31] <rcjsuen> aib42: Did you check your logs?
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[22:20:37] <aib42> rcjsuen: nothing containing 'tail' in the workspace log. nothing in the updater log, and I can't find the '<timestamp>.log' log mentioned in the iwki
[22:20:57] <rcjsuen> aib42: If it's not there, then you should try ~clean
[22:20:58] <KOS-MOS> Please try restarting Eclipse with the '-clean' argument. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_have_just_installed_a_plug-in_but_I_do_not_see_any_indication_of_it_in_my_workspace._What_do_I_do.3F
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[22:26:38] <malcom2073> Question: When I run a program, it just says <terminated>carM MinGW Gcc [C/C++ Local Applicatoon] C:\workspace\carM\debug\carM.exe in the console
[22:26:39] <malcom2073> it dosent run the program
[22:26:53] <malcom2073> by run, I mean I click on the "run" button
[22:27:11] <Zerone> n8 *
[22:27:42] <dominikg> malcom2073, are you sure its not run? maybe it is run and terminated, but doesn't produce any output?
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[22:28:34] <malcom2073> The exact same code runs when I compile it manualy from command line, and produces a window
[22:31:40] <malcom2073> Ah for some reason its not copying needed DLL
[22:31:42] <malcom2073> 's
[22:31:46] <malcom2073> to the debug directory
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[22:32:25] <aib42> rcjsuen: still nothing with -clean :/
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[22:33:04] <malcom2073> Got it, had to add those librarys to the linker. Cool.
[22:33:19] <rcjsuen> aib42: dunno then
[22:33:27] <rcjsuen> aib42: what was in the archive?
[22:33:44] <aib42> ah yea, I've noticed eclipse silently fails when you execute a file that fails its .dll dependancies on runtime. (running the program from a shell pops up a dialog box)
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[22:34:32] <aib42> a org.jdt.eclipsetail directory (which I've copied to the plugins/ dir), and some plugin-looking stuff inside, icons/ lib/ a .jar and plugin.xml
[22:34:44] <aib42>       <import plugin="org.jdt.jdtcommons"/>
[22:34:47] <aib42> there we go
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[22:35:13] <rcjsuen> ic
[22:35:16] <aib42> sorry, I'm not very familiar with Eclipse :/. If I was, I'd try solving the Win32 gdb & paths-with-spaces issue
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[22:40:44] <malcom2073> HEh ok, putting the .a files in the linker only resolves undefined reference issues. How do I make eclipse auto-copy the DLL's over?
[22:41:06] <aib42> where from?
[22:41:15] <aib42> (I'd do it manually)
[22:41:38] <malcom2073> Yeah I can do that, I just  figured it'd be nice if it did it automatically :P
[22:42:03] <malcom2073> the QT integration packages dosent need to somehow
[22:42:08] <malcom2073> no clue how they do that
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[22:42:41] <aib42> well Windows looks at 1) current dir 2) PATH 3) windows\system32 IIRC.   might be 2<->3.
[22:42:54] <malcom2073> Hmm yeah maybe I can add that to my projects path
[22:42:55] <malcom2073> that might fix it
[22:43:06] <aib42> quite possibly.
[22:45:23] <malcom2073> Hmm dosent seem to
[22:46:12] <malcom2073> Ah yes
[22:46:27] <malcom2073> in the Run dialog, I have it add my bin directory of QT to the path variable
[22:46:30] <malcom2073> that makes it go
[22:46:45] <malcom2073> Awesome, thanks aib42
[22:47:05] <malcom2073> Now that I've gotten that running, I can attempt SDL integraiton... again
[22:47:23] <aib42> np. Now on to finding a tail plugin for SDL's stdout.txt...
[22:47:31] <malcom2073> lol, good luck
[22:49:26] <aib42> ~searchplugins tail
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[23:02:42] <rcjsuen> ~searchplugins tail
[23:02:43] <KOS-MOS> Try searching for plug-ins: http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/modules.php?name=search&action=search&q=tail - http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/search.jsp?query=tail
[23:02:46] <rcjsuen> aib42: There you go.
[23:03:28] <aib42> woah :)
[23:03:45] <rcjsuen> aib42: There was a bug, I was making some changes.
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[23:05:31] <aib42> ahh, cool. I really like fact that you can do ~clean mid-sentence.
[23:05:32] <KOS-MOS> Please try restarting Eclipse with the '-clean' argument. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_have_just_installed_a_plug-in_but_I_do_not_see_any_indication_of_it_in_my_workspace._What_do_I_do.3F
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[23:06:44] <rcjsuen> You could start Eclipse with a console and try to see what's wrong with the Tail plug-in from there.
[23:06:45] <aib42> I've installed the two other 'tail' plugins, they both work with just the runtime. The problem is, the file's not getting written until after the app closes :(.
[23:06:58] <aib42> yup, I've tried -clean -consolelog, but the log window was empty
[23:07:10] <rcjsuen> you could start with -console
[23:07:21] <rcjsuen> then you can use 'ss' to check
[23:07:36] <rcjsuen> and try to 'start org.jdt.tail' (or whatever it was)
[23:07:50] <aib42> woah, I didn't know eclipse had a console
[23:07:51] <aib42> wow.
[23:08:03] <aib42> just.... wow.
[23:08:07] <rcjsuen> It's not actually an Eclipse concept, but anyway.
[23:08:28] <aib42> good idea, though.
[23:08:48] <rcjsuen> aib42: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-ecl-osgiconsole/index.html
[23:11:05] <aib42> is there any way to make it use the launcher console? (i.e. stdin/stdout) -- the newly launched one is just too small
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[23:12:02] <rcjsuen> i use Linux and it's not really a problem, dunno
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[23:23:28] <soh> i was wondering how i could add javadoc sources for PDE
[23:24:03] <soh> the API for the functions aren't there in the IDE
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[23:24:27] <rcjsuen> you mean jdt?
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[23:28:14] <soh> mmm.... i'm not sure
[23:28:21] <soh> i'm developing a plug-in project
[23:28:38] <soh> it seems i don't have any of the documentation for classes in org.eclipse.ui.*
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[23:29:12] <soh> or org.eclipse.jface.... i guess org.eclipse.*
[23:30:09] <rcjsuen> soh: Where did you download Eclipse from?
[23:32:58] <soh> eclipse.org
[23:33:11] <rcjsuen> soh: What package did you download?
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[23:34:57] <soh> rcjsuen: eclipse classic 3.3.1.1 (eclipse-SDK-3.3.1.1-win32.zip)
[23:35:12] <rcjsuen> soh: The source code should be there already.
[23:35:27] <rcjsuen> soh: are you using any plug-ins?
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[23:36:48] <soh> rcjsuen: hmmm... i don't think so, but i'm not sure
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[23:37:08] <soh> rcjsuen: actually, i may not be using that package after all
[23:37:26] <soh> rcjsuen: let me check
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[23:41:08] <soh> rcjsuen: turns out i was using a different version---the classic verison works after all
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