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[00:40:03] <vdv> hi all
[00:41:53] <vdv> i've installed WST plugin and created dynamic web project
[00:42:20] <vdv> how can i make libs that are in build path to automatically deploy into WEB-INF/lib ?
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[01:00:33] <asimismo> vdv: Haven't looked in a while, I think you might have to configure in project properties?
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[01:17:23] <Eisenhower> hey can someone help me out with compiling c++ projects with eclipse?
[01:17:29] <Eisenhower> or is there another chan that will help with that
[01:17:49] <vdv> hi all
[01:17:58] <vdv> i've installed WST plugin and created dynamic web project
[01:18:18] <vdv> how can i make libs that are in build path to automatically deploy into WEB-INF/lib ?
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[01:20:15] <Fokez> pretty please, what kinda eclipse do I need for simple CMS tuning ??? just PHP stuff.... PDT or eclipse classic ? I've got Java 5 JRE already
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[01:22:31] <Fokez> Eisenhower: Linux / win ?
[01:22:48] <Eisenhower> win =( . unforntunelty it works perfect on linux
[01:23:35] <Eisenhower> and Fokez.  you can just downllad eclipse classic. then go open it up and go to help/update/ find and instal>  download the package you want
[01:23:46] <Eisenhower> and restart eclipse and you will have php addon on working
[01:23:56] <Eisenhower> excecpt in my case cdt doesnt like win
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[01:27:08] <Fokez> eeh...couple month ago I spent entire day to figure it out ...but failed....finally my perfect pimped eclipse fell down....finished....I wouldn't compile anything on Windows
[01:27:59] <Eisenhower> for java or win?
[01:28:14] <Fokez> win
[01:29:16] <Zerone> n8 *
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[02:17:05] <Eisenhower> hey, i keep gettnig there error. failed no binaries when trying to compile a c++ project( basic) does anyone know how i can fix this?
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[04:10:37] <Max_-> Anywhere I can get Eclipse 3.1 distros?
[04:11:19] <rcjsuen> Max_-: http://archive.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/index.php
[04:12:13] <Max_-> cool, thanks!
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[07:57:58] <khin> hey whats up how do i change the compiler in eclipse i forget
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[10:39:17] <jbosmans> good morning
[10:39:25] <jbosmans> anyone having issues with eclipse + jdk 1.6 ?
[10:45:24] <jbosmans> and amd64 architecture actually, I constantly get errors like these : http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=6614100
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[13:06:41] <erik2> I have my workspace at /home/erik/workspace and a full-blown site at /var/www/httpdocs/site.1. all localhost. In eclipse I imported the site as project 'abb' and I can edit the files that way. How would I set up eclipse 3.3.1.1 to be able to debug that site, ic. step and breakpoint various files in the site ?
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[13:18:50] <rcjsuen> jbosmans: I don't have problems with Java 6, but you could always fall back to Java 5. I know some people are having problems with 6.
[13:21:01] <rcjsuen> erik2: I presume you'd need some php plug-in with debugging support.
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[13:23:10] <jbosmans> rcjsuen, the problem seem to have gone away by downgrading from 1.6.0.04 to 1.6.0.03
[13:23:15] <jbosmans> (on amd64)
[13:23:17] <rcjsuen> ic
[13:23:24] <rcjsuen> jbosmans: thankns for your update and suggested solution
[13:23:41] <jbosmans> rcjsuen, yw, honestly this has been a major pita for quite some time now
[13:24:05] <jbosmans> I've only downgraded like 3hrs ago but since then finally a stable eclipse once again
[13:24:14] <rcjsuen> ah
[13:24:39] <jbosmans> before segfaults of libjvm.so iirc
[13:24:55] <jbosmans> generating hs_err_pid* files
[13:25:36] <jbosmans> only plugin in use was subclipse but that's still in use now, oh and I'm using the 64bit eclipse from eclipes.org
[13:26:11] <jbosmans> sun's support of java 64bit is shameful
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[14:25:42] <tvparys> Hi. Since some days I've got an anoying problem. Using a fresh install of the latest version of Eclipse, classic edition, on Fedora 8, latest kernel. Eclipse just hangs when opening a file in a new editor. Is this kind of problem reported before?
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[14:38:54] <rcjsuen> tvparys: * Loaded log from Fri Feb  8 22:39:05 2008
[14:38:55] <rcjsuen>
[14:38:55] <rcjsuen> * Now talking on #eclipse-dev
[14:38:55] <rcjsuen> * Topic for #eclipse-dev is: Eclipse Committer Channel - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Development_Resources
[14:38:55] <rcjsuen> * Topic for #eclipse-dev set by paulweb515__ at Wed Feb  6 10:12:25 2008
[14:38:56] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> paulweb515_: what do you think about ~211632
[14:38:57] <KOS-MOS> See bug 211632 - [Commands] Add Throwable constructor to ExecutionException - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=211632
[14:38:58] <rcjsuen> <KOS-MOS> See bug 211632 - [Commands] Add Throwable constructor to ExecutionException - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=211632
[14:39:01] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> Download from: [Canada] University of Waterloo Computer Science Club (http)
[14:39:03] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> handy
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[14:39:13] <rcjsuen> oh whoops
[14:39:16] <rcjsuen> tvparys: http://www.eclipse.org/swt/faq.php
[14:39:17] <rcjsuen> bad habit, sorry folks
[14:43:34] <tvparys> rcjsuen: thanks. But they're talking about issues with GTK 2.10, while I'm running gtk2-2.12.5-1
[14:43:47] <rcjsuen> tvparys: My friend has had problems with 2.12.something
[14:44:22] <tvparys> rcjsuen: right. So apparently we're having a similar problem. Any sollutions yet?
[14:44:38] <rcjsuen> tvparys: They describe a solution in the FAQ
[14:44:44] <tvparys> ...solutions :-)
[14:45:09] <rcjsuen> tvparys: The suggested arguments don't work?
[14:45:34] <tvparys> I'll try those. I'll let you know if they work.
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[14:47:40] <rcjsuen> k
[14:47:59] <tvparys> rcjsuen: working like a charm.
[14:48:29] <rcjsuen> tvparys: Just as I thought.
[14:48:30] <tvparys> and what kind of printing has been disabled now?
[14:48:39] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[14:48:47] <rcjsuen> I presume any printing from Eclipse.
[14:49:09] <tvparys> rcjsuen: could be. Well, I don't print my code anyway. Thanks a lot!
[14:49:20] <rcjsuen> tvparys: np
[14:49:34] <rcjsuen> tvparys: ~213487 ~215234
[14:49:35] <KOS-MOS> See bug 213487 - open file hangs forever - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=213487
[14:49:36] <KOS-MOS> See bug 215234 - Investigate enumeratePrinters hang on GTK - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215234
[14:49:59] <rcjsuen> tvparys: Please comment on those bugs to provide the SWT team with additional information if you can.
[14:50:10] <tvparys> Ok, I will.
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[15:01:55] <Mician> hi all, howto i implement the annotations in a TextEditor ?
[15:02:04] <Mician> someone has source or tips ?
[15:02:08] <rcjsuen> Mician: What are you trying to do exactly
[15:02:11] <rcjsuen> more info
[15:02:36] <Mician> i want make the error in a TextEditor
[15:02:50] <rcjsuen> Mician: If you create IMarkers, it should show
[15:02:59] <Mician> IMarkers
[15:03:07] <Mician> ok i will see thath
[15:03:08] <Mician> that
[15:03:11] <rcjsuen> Unless you're trying to do it when you type (like JDT), instead of creating IMarkers (which JDT does at build time), then that's a different story.
[15:03:39] <Mician> :/
[15:03:51] <rcjsuen> Eh?
[15:04:49] <Mician> yes for the editing not the build , with JDT
[15:05:46] <rcjsuen> So you want it to appear as the user is typing?
[15:05:53] <Mician> yes
[15:05:56] <rcjsuen> Well, there's nothing stopping you from creating IMarkers as they are typing
[15:06:00] <rcjsuen> that is entirely up to you
[15:06:09] <rcjsuen> JDT doesn't do it but it doesn't mean you shouldn't do it.
[15:06:16] <rcjsuen> You just need to ask yourself
[15:06:24] <rcjsuen> "Do I want these errors to show up in the 'Problems' view?"
[15:07:00] <Mician> thx,anderstood
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[15:07:12] <rcjsuen> if not, then you need to create annotations
[15:07:44] <Mician> oO
[15:12:14] <rcjsuen> Mician: ?
[15:12:41] <Mician> yes i will only the notify , not show the error in the problem view
[15:12:54] <rcjsuen> okay then, you need to create annotations
[15:13:00] <Mician> okay
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[15:15:29] <rcjsuen> ~api IAnnotationModel
[15:15:29] <KOS-MOS> org.eclipse.jface.text.source.IAnnotationModel - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/jface/text/source/IAnnotationModel.html
[15:15:48] <Mician> omg, nig thx =)
[15:17:08] <Mician> miraculous , i must create this object add the params and connect with the document
[15:17:32] <rcjsuen> well
[15:17:33] <rcjsuen> technically
[15:17:36] <rcjsuen> your TextEditor already has one
[15:19:12] <Mician> yes, ( i use the xml example and a modified the tag and the color)
[15:19:27] <rcjsuen> what kind of editor are you creating?
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[15:19:42] <Mician> a sample editor,
[15:19:47] <Mician> :$
[15:19:57] <rcjsuen> a sample editor?
[15:20:31] <Mician> i want to create a plugin and with a xsd or dtd color and show the error etc..
[15:21:05] <rcjsuen> Why do you need to do this?
[15:21:16] <Mician> for my study
[15:21:36] <rcjsuen> oh
[15:21:43] <Mician> ??
[15:21:44] <rcjsuen> Isn't there an XML editor already in WST?
[15:22:19] <rcjsuen> but I guess if it's for school then that's a different story
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[15:22:41] <rcjsuen> Mician: I'm saying there is an XML editor from the WST project already.
[15:23:06] <Mician> yes ok... i search
[15:23:17] <Mician> o yes
[15:23:26] <Mician> and the validator ...
[15:23:37] <rcjsuen> yes, it does validation
[15:23:43] <Mician> omg !!
[15:24:06] <Mician> what will say at my professor
[15:24:32] <Mician> can i get the source-code ?
[15:25:05] <Mician> and if some function doesnt existe i will create them
[15:25:12] <rcjsuen> yes, you can get the source code
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[15:26:55] <Mician> i will search the code source , i will be afk
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[15:37:48] <Mician> :$ where i can find the code source ?
[15:37:59] <rcjsuen> ~viewvc
[15:37:59] <KOS-MOS> Looking for a web interface to the source code released by Eclipse projects? http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/
[15:38:06] <Mician> =)
[15:44:09] <patrin70> Hi all
[15:44:20] <rcjsuen> hi
[15:44:25] <Mician> hi
[15:44:32] <patrin70> I would extract from CVS the source code of eclipse platform
[15:44:58] <patrin70> do you know which is the minimum set of projects I need to have a working development environment ?
[15:45:21] <rcjsuen> patrin70: Well, ideally you should have Eclipse Classic / SDK installed.
[15:45:28] <rcjsuen> Then you'd just checkout whichever project you're interested in.
[15:45:34] <patrin70> I would be able to do changes to the platform code and run tests
[15:45:59] <rcjsuen> patrin70: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform_UI/How_to_Contribute
[15:46:39] <patrin70> I have SDK 3.3.1.1 installed and I would get the source code to run an instance of the platform at this same level
[15:46:54] <rcjsuen> then you need to get the 3.3 maintennace branch
[15:47:05] <patrin70> with just, lets say, the ide application
[15:47:41] <rcjsuen> patrin70: Eclipse is not an IDE.
[15:47:59] <rcjsuen> unless you mean the IDE-centric components
[15:48:11] <rcjsuen> in that case you probably want org.eclipse.ui.workbench and org.eclipse.ui.ide
[15:48:22] <rcjsuen> and probably some of the editors plug-ins
[15:49:04] <patrin70> what I would do is to study the code of the ide plugin
[15:49:25] <patrin70> I know that starting with 3.3 the ide plugin has been separated from the ide application
[15:49:43] <rcjsuen> slightly, I'm not sure if the decoupling is really in the way you think it is
[15:50:53] <patrin70> but just to start, I would run debug sessions on the ide application to halp me understand how the ide plugin works
[15:51:11] <patrin70> so I would have on my development environment all the required source code
[15:51:20] <patrin70> to have a working build
[15:51:20] <rcjsuen> Then just follow what I described above.
[15:51:49] <rcjsuen> Well, if you have the Eclipse SDK  you already have the source code.
[15:51:58] <rcjsuen> It is not completely necessary for you to check the code out from CVS.
[15:53:34] <patrin70> if I start downloading the ide.application, I get compilation errors because the ide plugin is missing, then if I extract also the ide plugin, I get compilation errors because some other plugin is missing... I would know if there is a list of plugins that are required, without having to go on incrementally
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[15:53:51] <patrin70> I would have the source code, because I would try to do changes
[15:53:59] <patrin70> and run the updated code
[15:54:14] <rcjsuen> You should just import your SDK's source code.
[15:54:15] <patrin70> yout to test my understandings of the code
[15:54:25] <rcjsuen> That should remove such compilation problems.
[15:54:40] <rcjsuen> If you checkout the plug-in from CVS from HEAD, then it's obviously not going to compile.
[15:54:45] <patrin70> agree, but in this way I cannot do changes to the source code
[15:54:46] <rcjsuen> Since that's currently the 3.4 line.
[15:54:52] <rcjsuen> patrin70: actually, yes you can
[15:55:06] <patrin70> good, so I start with 3.3_maintenance
[15:57:42] <patrin70> thanks a lot for your help
[15:57:55] <rcjsuen> k
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[16:07:50] <erik2> Debian etch, apache 2.2.3. , eclipse 3.3.1 : which version of php dbg should I use ?
[16:09:55] <rcjsuen> erik2: I think that depends which php plug-in you're using.
[16:10:17] <erik2> pdt
[16:10:44] <rcjsuen> erik2: http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/FAQ#Does_PDT_include_a_debugger.3F_Where_can_i_find_one.3F
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[16:13:04] <dmilith> hi
[16:13:09] <dmilith> i've got a question..
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[16:13:22] <dmilith> why eclipse is so unstable?
[16:13:33] <erik2> rcjsuen: must not apache be given some debugging modules too ? or is debugging in eclipse dome without my localhost ?
[16:13:34] <dmilith> i've installed 3.2 with aptana plugin with rails
[16:13:40] <rcjsuen> erik2: Possibly, I don't know.
[16:13:58] <rcjsuen> dmilith: It could be Eclipse's fault, could be your OS, could be Java, could be Aptana. It's hard to say.
[16:13:59] <dmilith> and it sometimes just closes.. with no errors ata ll
[16:14:10] <rcjsuen> dmilith: 3.2 was stable for me, I never used Aptana though *shrugs*.
[16:14:10] <dmilith> rcjsuen: great..
[16:14:16] <dmilith> i see
[16:14:23] <rcjsuen> dmilith: we need more ~info
[16:14:23] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Please check your <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - For a graphical view, please see Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[16:14:33] <rcjsuen> oh no, that didn't work well
[16:14:34] <rcjsuen> ~info
[16:14:35] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Please check your <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - For a graphical view, please see Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[16:14:35] <dmilith> i see
[16:14:52] <rcjsuen> Looks like I screwed something up, but anyway ;)
[16:14:57] <rcjsuen> dmilith: what OS are you on
[16:15:16] <dmilith> sid amd64
[16:15:28] <rcjsuen> dmilith: How did you download Eclipse?
[16:15:38] <dmilith> anyway.. is there any way to give java almost unlimited resources?
[16:15:41] <rcjsuen> dmilith: and can you pastebin your logs?
[16:15:45] <dmilith> rcjsuen: from repos
[16:15:52] <rcjsuen> dmilith: Then you need to talk to the Debian guys.
[16:16:15] <rcjsuen> you could modify your eclipse.ini file's -Xms and -Xmx flags to give it more memory
[16:17:32] <dmilith> rcjsuen: drakor.eu/~dmilith/eclipse
[16:17:34] <dmilith> there You go
[16:18:21] <rcjsuen> that's one big log file
[16:18:24] <dmilith> ok i'll back later
[16:18:37] <dmilith> rcjsuen: yep.. there You will have every error..
[16:18:43] <rcjsuen> well, i see a lot of rdt errors
[16:18:44] <dmilith> i have had more than one..
[16:18:46] <rcjsuen> at org.rubypeople.rdt.internal.core.builder.ERBBuildContext.getContents(ERBBuildContext.java:35)
[16:18:51] <rcjsuen> i dunno if that's what's causing the crash
[16:19:02] <rcjsuen> but it's certainly the ones near the bottom anyway
[16:19:24] <rcjsuen> also seeing some Aptana errors
[16:19:51] <rcjsuen> dmilith: I'd talk to the Aptana guys if I were you.
[16:19:57] <rcjsuen> File a bug, or check their tracking system.
[16:19:58] <dmilith> i see
[16:20:29] <patrin70> rcjsuen? I extracted the platform-core (R3_3_1_1) and platform-ui (R3_3_1_1) module alias
[16:20:42] <patrin70> is it enough to have a complete env ?
[16:20:50] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[16:21:00] <rcjsuen> patrin70: I sure don't check out everything.
[16:21:04] <rcjsuen> If I need something I check it out.
[16:21:27] <rcjsuen> I really wouldn't check out everything. I find it highly unlikely that you'd be looking in every single class.
[16:21:49] <patrin70> I mean, enough to change/run/debug the ide application
[16:22:02] <rcjsuen> probably, I guess
[16:22:03] <patrin70> I surely will look only at some plugin...
[16:22:06] <rcjsuen> I don't use those module aliases.
[16:22:14] <patrin70> ok, I'll try
[16:22:48] <rcjsuen> dmilith: Where did you get the Aptana plug-in? Do you have a direct link?
[16:23:06] <patrin70> thx again
[16:23:51] <rcjsuen> well, nm, I guess versioning isn't a problem
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[16:40:01] <The_8472> hum, is it just me or is autocompletion not working properly in inner anonymous classes in 3.4M5?
[16:40:19] <The_8472> for JDT ofc
[16:42:13] <rcjsuen> The_8472: seems fine to me
[16:42:58] <The_8472> to be more accurate... i cannot autocomplete method arguments of a call within an inner anonymous class
[16:43:43] <rcjsuen> Not sure what you mean.
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[16:43:57] <rcjsuen> My Java "grammar" lingo isn't as good as I would like.
[16:44:05] <rcjsuen> The_8472: please pastebin some code and explanation
[16:44:23] <The_8472> sec
[16:45:01] <The_8472> http://rafb.net/p/RKvOxv12.html
[16:45:21] <The_8472> then i'm trying to add newInput and cell to editor.setEditor(newi, item, checkColumnWidthsEvery)
[16:45:38] <The_8472> but it does not offer cell or newItem in the autocompletion
[16:46:05] <The_8472> it actually offers nothing at all except templates
[16:46:22] <The_8472> but it works in the "normal" function scope
[16:46:33] <rcjsuen> ugh, i guess this isn't exactly the most easiest of copy/paste code ;)
[16:46:50] <The_8472> it's just about the scope
[16:47:12] <rcjsuen> well, yes
[16:47:18] <rcjsuen> but first i need to resolve these compilation problems
[16:47:39] <The_8472> it won't compile, it has custom wrapper classes etc.
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[16:47:52] <rcjsuen> hence what i meant by
[16:47:55] <rcjsuen> not the most easiest of copy/paste ;)
[16:48:04] <eidolon> hm, anyone doing struts development under eclipse?
[16:48:51] <eidolon> mostly looking for information on "should i be looking for plugins specifically for struts" or should i just run up eclipse and start a 'dynamic web project', add a tomcat server, and start building up jsps and xml files for deployment?
[16:48:54] * eidolon is very new to struts.
[16:48:59] <rcjsuen> The_8472: It seems okay.
[16:49:00] <The_8472> the basic idea is function { blah.blubb(new anonymous() {anonfunction() {type var; foo.bar(var);}}); }
[16:49:06] <rcjsuen> The_8472: I just wrote Object i = new Object();
[16:49:15] <rcjsuen> then i did "".equals<content assist>
[16:49:23] <rcjsuen> and 'i' is a valid parameter for the equals
[16:49:34] <rcjsuen> oh wait i didn't make it anonymous
[16:50:19] <The_8472> it offers i for the tooltipish autocomplete
[16:50:36] <rcjsuen> The_8472: http://rafb.net/p/5HAadf44.html
[16:50:40] <The_8472> but when i use the ctrl+space autocomplete it only offers autocomplete
[16:50:43] <rcjsuen> The_8472: Ctrl-Space after the 's' works
[16:50:44] <The_8472> err... templates
[16:50:52] <The_8472> yes
[16:50:55] <The_8472> but not in the brackets
[16:51:00] <rcjsuen> ?
[16:51:16] <The_8472> equals(<ctrl+space>)
[16:51:37] <rcjsuen> ah, yes, it does not appear
[16:51:55] <The_8472> huuuge annoyance
[16:52:06] <The_8472> i wonder why nobody noticed that
[16:52:13] <rcjsuen> It doesn't seem to work even on regular methods.
[16:52:33] <rcjsuen> The_8472: well, i always type stuff in when the parametrs are filled in
[16:52:59] <rcjsuen> dunno
[16:53:32] <The_8472> it does in the normal functions cope
[16:53:40] <rcjsuen> not for me
[16:53:49] <The_8472> odd
[16:53:52] <rcjsuen> it just gives me 'Object obj'
[16:54:47] <rcjsuen> although that might be the expected behaviour
[16:55:08] <The_8472> just String string = "asdf"; "".equals(st<ctrl+space>); works
[16:55:25] <rcjsuen> The_8472: that's what i pastebined earlier ^
[16:55:28] <rcjsuen> the st gives it context
[16:55:33] <rcjsuen> if you have nothing in it
[16:55:40] <rcjsuen> it's more useful to have the parameters show up as tooltip
[16:55:43] <rcjsuen> over giving you a listing
[16:55:44] <rcjsuen> imo
[16:56:06] <The_8472> nono, it does work with st<ctrl+space> in the function scope but not in the inner anonymous function scope
[16:56:15] <The_8472> same syntax and everything
[16:56:46] <The_8472> i can provide screenshot if you want
[16:57:07] <rcjsuen> I see it
[16:57:10] <rcjsuen> Assuming we're talking about the same thing
[16:57:18] <The_8472> hehe
[16:58:13] <The_8472> odd... i created a new function and added your example code there
[16:58:15] <The_8472> and now it works
[16:58:54] <The_8472> but it doesn't in the one i'm editing
[17:03:52] <eidolon> question.  i'm doing jsp + struts + servlet stuff... i created a tomcat server in eclipse, and now i want to whip up some stuff to be tested / run there.  do i use the 'dynamic web project' setup?  i also want to be able to generate a WAR from this and deploy it elsewhere when we go to testing then production.
[17:04:45] <eidolon> (i'm not planning on using xdoclet)
[17:05:53] <The_8472> found something similar: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=208560
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[17:12:44] <The_8472> rcjsuen, i'm actually not even able to reduce it to a small testcase... :/
[17:13:00] <rcjsuen> The_8472: Did you try closing/reopening editor / Eclipse?
[17:13:07] <rcjsuen> or project / clean
[17:13:15] <rcjsuen> maybe the backing AST / classfiles is just in an inconsistent state
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[17:13:23] <The_8472> hrrm
[17:15:28] <The_8472> nope, still the same issue
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[17:26:13] <The_8472> hrrrrrmmmmm......
[17:26:24] <The_8472> i think this might due to be the method length itself somhow
[17:28:28] <The_8472> nope, that's not it either
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[18:15:18] <dmilith> http://pastebin.com/mda9d4f2
[18:15:19] <dmilith> wtf?
[18:15:52] <rcjsuen> dmilith: You're using Eclipse from the repositories, right?
[18:16:57] <dmilith> yep
[18:16:59] <dmilith> and?
[18:17:15] <rcjsuen> dmilith: So, a) file a bug to the Debian team or b) get Eclipse from eclipse.org.
[18:17:18] <dmilith> it happens 5th time..
[18:17:25] <dmilith> ;f
[18:17:34] <rcjsuen> dmilith: Sounds like they should know about this then.
[18:17:52] <dmilith> if i get 3.3 version i wouild have problem with my configuration?
[18:17:57] <rcjsuen> dmilith: When did this happen?
[18:18:03] <rcjsuen> dmilith: On startup or during use of Eclipse?
[18:18:03] <dmilith> (ofcourse i will do backup..)
[18:18:11] <dmilith> during use
[18:18:18] <rcjsuen> dmilith: There shouldn't be a problem, just extract the tarball in ~/ or something.
[18:18:23] <dmilith> ok
[18:18:39] <rcjsuen> dmilith: Check your /usr/lib/eclipse or ~/ folder for an hs_err_*.log file.
[18:20:10] <dmilith> 800k in 6 files
[18:20:46] <dmilith> will upload them all.. w8
[18:21:05] <rcjsuen> dmilith: These hs_err_pid files are generated by Sun's JVM when the VM crashes.
[18:21:24] <dmilith> yep.. i see
[18:21:45] <dmilith> is 3.3.1 stable?
[18:22:23] <dmilith> drakior.eu/~dmilith/eclipse
[18:22:26] <dmilith> there You go
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[18:23:18] <rcjsuen> dmilith: 3.3.1.1 is the latest stable release, take from it what you will.
[18:23:35] <dmilith> eee
[18:24:15] <eidolon> grr.  wtf.
[18:24:18] <rcjsuen> your link is wrongbtw, it's drakor.eu
[18:24:27] <eidolon> why when i do 'new tomcat project' the dialogs dead end without me being able to hit 'finish'?
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[18:26:00] <rcjsuen> dmilith: The logs aren't entirely conclusive.
[18:26:21] <dmilith> You mean/
[18:26:32] <rcjsuen> dmilith: I see one thing someone mentioned earlier that was resolved by using 1.6.0.03 instead of 1.6.0.04.
[18:26:37] <rcjsuen> But I don't know will that fix all of your problems.
[18:31:39] <dmilith> will see
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[18:52:08] <cheatersrealm> anyone had success installing OcaIDE plugin under ubuntu (gutsy)?
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[18:53:53] <dmilith> rcjsuen: ;f
[18:53:58] <dmilith> it dont want to run lf
[18:54:16] <dmilith> JVM terminated. Exit code=13
[18:54:18] <dmilith> ;f
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[19:01:18] <nitind> dmilith: Which JRE?  Have you matched the platform and 32/64-bitness of the JRE, Eclipse, and your OS?
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[19:04:01] <dmilith> nitind: ofcourse.. amd64 sid.. jre from repos.. 1.6.04 iirc
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[19:07:31] <dmilith> have done symbolic link to /opt/eclipse/jre
[19:07:45] <dmilith> from jre of 1.6.x java (64bit ofcourse)
[19:12:25] <nitind> Then like rcjsuen said, try it with a download from Eclipse.org and specify the 1.6.04 JRE's executable explicitly with the -vm command line switch.
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[19:18:10] <rcjsuen> cheatersrealm: I don't know what that is, but what problems are you facing?
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[19:19:23] <cheatersrealm> rcjsuen: it is a plugin, installed through the eclipse IDE.  basically it says it installs right, but the perspective doesn't open and same for the pref. panes
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[19:19:38] <rcjsuen> cheatersrealm: So you installed it from the Update Manager?
[19:19:47] <cheatersrealm> rcjsuen: yes
[19:20:04] <rcjsuen> ~tell cheatersrealm about clean
[19:20:30] <dmilith> http://wklej.org/id/dcf4ae879f
[19:20:33] <dmilith> like i said..
[19:20:36] <dmilith> uh..
[19:20:39] <rcjsuen> cheatersrealm: whoops
[19:20:44] <rcjsuen> cheatersrealm: Try restarting Eclipse with -clean
[19:20:48] <rcjsuen> ./eclipse -clean
[19:21:03] <rcjsuen> dmilith: When is that happening?
[19:21:12] <rcjsuen> dmilith: You got a 32-bit build
[19:21:17] <rcjsuen> dmilith: -arch x86
[19:21:33] <rcjsuen> dmilith: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.3.1.1-200710231652/index.php get the 64-bit build
[19:21:38] <dmilith> ;f
[19:22:01] <dmilith> when i came on eclipse site.. it show me.. x86_64 ;f
[19:22:04] <dmilith> bullshit
[19:22:16] <rcjsuen> ?
[19:22:21] <rcjsuen> dmilith: Do you have the tarball?
[19:22:44] <dmilith> eclipse-SDK-3.3.1.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[19:22:49] <rcjsuen> yes, that's the 32-bit build
[19:23:13] <dmilith> ok..
[19:23:34] <dmilith> but it prints x86_64 on site from where i've been redirected ;f
[19:23:53] <dmilith> naah.. downloadin
[19:24:37] <rcjsuen> dmilith: If you think there's a problem with the website or mirrors, file a bug.
[19:25:17] <dmilith> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
[19:25:25] <dmilith> Eclipse Classic 3.3.1.1 - Linux x86_64 (137 MB)
[19:25:40] <dmilith> so i clicked "linux" right next to this ;f
[19:25:47] <rcjsuen> then file a bug
[19:26:03] <dmilith> why does it points to gtk not gtk64
[19:26:21] <rcjsuen> *shrugs* Probably a bug.
[19:26:22] <dmilith> don't have time . and have those bug tracking questions without answer
[19:26:36] <dmilith> s/have/hate/
[19:26:51] <rcjsuen> well, suit yourself
[19:27:15] <dmilith> i don't have luck.. i've found a lots of bugs in netbeans.. that's why i'm here
[19:27:27] <rcjsuen> I've never used NetBeans, so I dunno.
[19:27:58] <dmilith> rcjsuen: good. better don't. it can for example delete all your project files without reason.. ;f
[19:28:04] <dmilith> for example
[19:28:27] <dmilith> and couldn't remember settings.. and after changing keymapping.. forgets about all mappings..
[19:28:29] <rcjsuen> dmilith: For a bug of that calibur, I'd expect that to be fixed.
[19:28:31] <dmilith> damn..
[19:28:39] <dmilith> it's in 6.0
[19:28:42] <dmilith> try it..
[19:28:56] <dmilith> i could tell you how to produce every one ... ;f
[19:29:08] <rcjsuen> dmilith: So that means you filed bugs to NetBeans, right?
[19:30:11] <dmilith> no.. i told developers.. but they just ignored me.. so fuck them.. i don't have time to spend all day filling inunderstandable forms..
[19:30:21] <rcjsuen> dmilith: oh, you talked to them on their mailing lists?
[19:30:53] <dmilith> no. i'm not involved into this.. really. i have my work..
[19:30:58] <dmilith> i could help. here for example
[19:30:59] <cheatersrealm> rcjsuen: no dice.
[19:31:07] <rcjsuen> dmilith: I was just curious how you contacted them.
[19:31:18] <rcjsuen> cheatersrealm: what os are you on
[19:31:28] <cheatersrealm> rcjsuen: ubuntu (gutsy)
[19:31:33] <dmilith> but i really don't have time.. and i realluy don't unerstand theese forms.. and what i need to write there..
[19:31:42] <rcjsuen> cheatersrealm: where did you get Eclipse?
[19:31:46] <dmilith> rcjsuen: told on #netbeans
[19:31:52] <rcjsuen> dmilith: Ah.
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[19:32:10] <dmilith> i'm late with my 3 projects.. cause of such problems..
[19:32:22] <dmilith> i told my pal.. about those errors..
[19:32:28] <cheatersrealm> rcjsuen: I used apt repositories.  3.2.2-3ubuntu3
[19:32:38] <dmilith> he said.. that theese bugs are fixed in 6.1
[19:32:40] <dmilith> so..
[19:32:40] <rcjsuen> cheatersrealm: can you link me to this plug-in?
[19:32:42] <dmilith> no comments
[19:32:45] <cheatersrealm> rcjsuen: yeah hold on
[19:32:57] <rcjsuen> dmilith: then it needs to be filed
[19:33:04] <rcjsuen> If you don't fill out the forms properly, they will tell you.
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[19:33:37] <dmilith> you need register.. then suck their balls.. i dont' have time for such games
[19:33:42] <dmilith> i tried once..
[19:33:45] <dmilith> and passed out
[19:34:05] <rcjsuen> all the bug tracking systems i've used so far requires registration, it's not that odd
[19:34:15] <rcjsuen> cheatersrealm: sure
[19:34:27] <rcjsuen> cheatersrealm: and you should check your logs, <workspace>/.metadata/.log
[19:34:38] <cheatersrealm> rcjsuen: http://ocaml.eclipse.ortsa.com:8480/ocaide/
[19:35:23] <rcjsuen> cheatersrealm: Help > About Eclipse SDK > Configuation Details
[19:35:29] <rcjsuen> cheatersrealm: can you pastebin the contents of that dialog?
[19:37:47] <cheatersrealm> rcjsuen: http://pastebin.ca/897628
[19:38:36] <rcjsuen> OcaIDE needs a 1.5 or 1.6 Java Virtual Machine (from Sun: download the JRE here) and Eclipse 3.3
[19:38:38] <rcjsuen> cheatersrealm: you have 3.2.2
[19:38:52] <cheatersrealm> arg
[19:38:55] <cheatersrealm> no wonder.
[19:39:23] <cheatersrealm> that is so annoying.
[19:40:06] <cheatersrealm> thanks for spotting that rcjsuen.
[19:40:25] <rcjsuen> cheatersrealm: No problem, happy to help, good luck.
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[20:01:20] <The_8472> and another thing... in SWT tables under windows there is this dotted outline thingy on TableItems if you selected something via mouse/keyboard. select(index) doesn't seem to update the dotted part, only the colored highlight of the row
[20:01:27] <The_8472> is there a way to update the dotted one too?
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[20:13:35] <rcjsuen> dmilith: Any luck?
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[20:17:46] <dmilith> rcjsuen: yep.. installed plugins.. aptana.. and rest..
[20:17:53] <dmilith> and everything is ok so far
[20:18:09] <dmilith> (i love that i can change version of eclipse without loosing my settings..)
[20:18:17] <dmilith> in netbeans.. ... uh.. no comments
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[20:26:06] <Hanns> working w/ cakephp, wondering if there's a way or trick for eclipse to launch a browser to helloword/index/ instade of index.ctp or helloworld_controller.php
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[20:41:41] <dmilith> rcjsuen: sorry.. have question how to use code templates..? ctrl - space ?
[20:42:14] <rcjsuen> Yes.
[20:42:19] <rcjsuen> dmilith: Assuming we're thinking of the same thing.
[20:43:41] <dmilith> naah.. it isn't working well..
[20:44:16] <rcjsuen> dmilith: define "isn't working well"
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[20:44:32] <dmilith> if They're writing app for themselves.. that's ok.. i thought that netbeans crew care about their app quality
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[20:44:40] <dmilith> geez not here
[20:44:46] <vdv> hi all
[20:44:56] <rcjsuen> vdv: Hi
[20:45:04] <vdv> i've installed WST plugin and created dynamic web project
[20:45:16] <vdv> how can i make libs that are in build path to automatically deploy into WEB-INF/lib ?
[20:45:31] <rcjsuen> dmilith: If no users cared NetBeans would have died a long time ago probably.
[20:46:04] <dmilith> rcjsuen: i'm using it in ruby.. or rhtml files.. and there are many templates.. "lia" for example to create <%= link_to ... %>
[20:46:17] <dmilith> rcjsuen: really.. i don't care..
[20:46:22] <vdv> i don't know how clear my question was..
[20:46:25] <rcjsuen> dmilith: oh, i dunno, I don't code in Ruby
[20:46:35] <dmilith> rcjsuen: i see.. thank You
[20:47:26] <vdv> but the idea is to copy additional jars used in project to WEB-INF/lib dir
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[20:50:19] <fivetwentysix> System.out.format() is bugged in Eclipse.
[20:51:14] <fivetwentysix> Is that an already reported bug?
[20:51:15] <rcjsuen> fivetwentysix: check bugzilla and find out :)
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[20:51:47] <rcjsuen> fivetwentysix: I presume the behaviour you are seeing on the command line is different?
[20:52:29] <fivetwentysix> rcjsuen: Eclipse refuses to compile it
[20:52:45] <rcjsuen> fivetwentysix: What OS are you on?
[20:52:50] <rcjsuen> fivetwentysix: Where did you get Eclipse?
[20:52:53] <fivetwentysix> KUbuntu
[20:53:02] <fivetwentysix> From the official Eclipse site.
[20:53:25] <fivetwentysix> I have two copies of it, 1 from KUbuntu repositories which uses an older version, and 1 from the official site, using the latest version
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[20:53:45] <rcjsuen> Sounds more like a compiler / JRE setting instead of a bug.
[20:53:56] <fivetwentysix> rcjsuen: No, it's an eclipse bug
[20:54:01] <dominikg> PrintStream#format was introduced in java5
[20:54:08] <rcjsuen> fivetwentysix: o rly
[20:54:17] <fivetwentysix> rcjsuen: Because when i type javac filename.java it compiles without any errors.
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[20:54:29] <rcjsuen> fivetwentysix: Hence, it could be a compiler setting
[20:54:32] <rcjsuen> or jre setting
[20:54:33] <fivetwentysix> rcjsuen: But eclipse insists there's something wrong with my code.
[20:54:35] <rcjsuen> if Eclipse is not using the same JRE
[20:54:38] <rcjsuen> that your javac i sfrom
[20:55:01] <rcjsuen> fivetwentysix: can you pastebin your .classpath file and take a screenshot of your package explorer with your expanded project?
[20:55:21] <fivetwentysix> i'll just paste the entire source
[20:55:28] <rcjsuen> pasting the source
[20:55:31] <fivetwentysix> which is only 26 lines of code
[20:55:32] <rcjsuen> will probably not help in this scenario
[20:55:47] <rcjsuen> but you ar ewelcome to paste it too just in case it is
[20:55:48] <fivetwentysix> http://pastebin.com/m6cd65bfd
[20:55:59] <zaphands> Hello all. Is it possible to export/import settings between eclipse installations? It took me ages to set the colors as I wanted (black background instead of white) and I would like to set it that way for many computers.
[20:56:02] <fivetwentysix> Try it in eclipse tell me if it gives you an error.
[20:56:15] <rcjsuen> fivetwentysix: If you insist
[20:56:25] <rcjsuen> zaphands: File > Export > Preferences
[20:56:30] <rcjsuen> zaphands: tho in the past i've had that not work
[20:56:41] <rcjsuen> so instead i just copy my workspace's settings and dump it to another one
[20:56:45] <nitind> It depends on how the editor saves those values.
[20:56:47] <rcjsuen> zaphands: for Eclipse installations it doesn't really matter
[20:56:49] <rcjsuen> since it's saved in the settings
[20:56:51] <vdv> is anybody here using webdev plugin?
[20:57:04] <fivetwentysix> rcjsuen: I just want to know if this is really a bug or not .
[20:57:13] <rcjsuen> nitind is correct,  ishould say, _generally_ speaking, it should be in the workspace
[20:57:54] <dominikg> fivetwentysix, its most likely not a bug, but a setting that is wrong in your eclipse installation (your project is compiled with a java version <java5)
[20:58:16] <fivetwentysix> dominkg: I don't even have any other versions of java besides 6
[20:58:27] <dominikg> listen to rcjsuen, he's almost always right
[20:58:38] <rcjsuen> dominikg: I wouldn't count on that.
[20:58:39] <dominikg> fivetwentysix, if you kave kubuntu, i bet theres gcj around
[20:59:01] <fivetwentysix> The program 'gcj' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[20:59:24] <rcjsuen> fivetwentysix: Hi, it compiles fine.
[20:59:41] <fivetwentysix> On eclipse?
[20:59:44] * rcjsuen looks for wiki link.
[20:59:46] <rcjsuen> fivetwentysix: yes
[20:59:46] <nitind> fivetwentysix: Eclipse doesn't use your installed JDK to compile your code, it has its own compiler, so it's very possible to have it set for <java5 even when compiling against the 1.6 libraries.
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[20:59:57] <rcjsuen> fivetwentysix: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_change_the_compiler_compliance_level_for_my_workspace.3F
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[21:00:10] <rcjsuen> Or set it at a project level (the screenshots depict a workspace setting)
[21:00:19] <nitind> vdv: Taking a poll?
[21:00:26] <rcjsuen> By right-clicking on your project > Properties > Java Compiler
[21:00:31] <fivetwentysix> Do I change it to 6.0?
[21:00:37] <zaphands> Also, I just installed the C++ Developer Edition of eclipse and the Hello World program doesn't compile. Does anyone know why?
[21:00:37] <fivetwentysix> I found out where to change it, it was set on 1.4
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[21:00:56] <rcjsuen> fivetwentysix: well, if i were using java 6, i would set it to 6.0
[21:00:57] <rcjsuen> but, up to you
[21:01:16] <rcjsuen> but yes, to resolve the compilation error
[21:01:20] <fivetwentysix> rcjsuen: Thank you for putting up with my stubborness :-)
[21:01:21] <rcjsuen> you would need it at 5.0 or 6.0
[21:01:31] <nitind> zaphands: CDT requires you to supply the necessary parts of the toolchain, the compiler, linker, libraries, etc., since they vary platform to platform.  Have you dug around in the Preferences yet?
[21:02:07] <dominikg> nitind, does the compiler honor @since tags if a higher level jdk is used for compiling? i thought the setting was only for bytecode compatibility but not for available api (hence one should always use matching jdk)
[21:02:28] <rcjsuen> Not sure how that would work.
[21:02:31] <nitind> dominikg: @since is just your own JavaDoc, right?
[21:02:38] <rcjsuen> Unless you mean it parses the attached src.zip
[21:02:39] <vdv> no, it's not a poll
[21:02:41] <rcjsuen> for the JRE, and identify @since 1.6
[21:02:44] <dominikg> in this case, suns javadoc, but yes
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[21:02:48] <rcjsuen> that'd be pretty hard core...but possibly excessive
[21:02:56] <rcjsuen> Although I agree that if it picked up a Java 6 JRE
[21:03:02] <rcjsuen> one would imagine it would set a 6.0 automagically
[21:03:03] <nitind> dominikg: No, it'll compile against whatever's in your project's Java Build Path.
[21:03:25] <vdv> just want to web-app deploy in eclipse to work correctly
[21:03:26] <zaphands> nitind, It wasn't always like that... Usually all I had to do was install CDT from the help menu and everything worked just fine.
[21:03:43] <nitind> dominikg: There are some things the PDE can do for you wne developing plug-ins, but typically what's on the build path is what you compile against, so if you want to avoid 1.6-specific features, don't target a 1.6 JRE.
[21:04:06] <nitind> vdv: Well, which "webdev" plug-ins are you using?
[21:04:20] <nitind> zaphands: Not to produce binaries, I wouldn't think.
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[21:04:31] <vdv> WST project
[21:04:54] <nitind> vdv: So what's not working?
[21:05:08] <rcjsuen> nitind: <vdv> how can i make libs that are in build path to automatically deploy into WEB-INF/lib ?
[21:05:13] <zaphands> I see now... Thanks all.
[21:05:27] <vdv> i'm adding some additional libs to buildpath
[21:05:41] <rcjsuen> fivetwentysix: No problem, good luck.
[21:05:50] <nitind> vdv: Ah, don't add them using the Java Build Path properties, specify them in the J2EE Module Dependencies property page.  Only those will be deployed.
[21:05:53] <vdv> and want them to automatically copied to webapp dir
[21:06:13] <vdv> the thing is i'm doing so
[21:06:14] <nitind> vdv: Otherwise literally put them in WEB-INF/lib in your project.
[21:06:47] <vdv> i'm checking them in j2ee module deps
[21:07:11] <vdv> but that's not working
[21:07:34] <zaphands> nitind, would it work out of the box on Linux?
[21:07:39] <nitind> vdv: Then I'm not sure what to tell you other than file a bug with all of the specifics.
[21:07:46] <vdv> sure i can put jars in WEB-INF manually
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[21:08:01] <vdv> but what happens when i clean project?
[21:08:03] <nitind> zaphands: I've never tried it.
[21:08:22] <nitind> vdv: The classes folder might be cleared, but the lib folder stays the same.
[21:08:34] <zaphands> ok.. thanks all!
[21:08:39] <zaphands> good night.
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[21:09:02] <vdv> ok
[21:09:08] <vdv> thanks
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[21:36:48] <dmilith> Exception in thread "Thread-110" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
[21:36:53] <dmilith> how to prevent that
[21:37:42] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: http\://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ\#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http\://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
[21:38:04] <rcjsuen> whoops
[21:38:09] <dmilith> ;}
[21:38:10] <rcjsuen> dmilith: http\://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ\#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http\://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
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[22:20:55] <Tinason> is there a newbie's guide to resolving dependency issues?
[22:21:43] <rcjsuen> Tinason: uh, what kind of deps
[22:22:36] <Tinason> this kind: org.eclipse.wst.common.project.facet.core (1.1.1
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[22:23:02] <rcjsuen> Tinason: Please give more information.
[22:23:03] <Tinason> like, i try to install new features, and i see errors like that a lot when i select packages to install
[22:23:16] <rcjsuen> your Eclipse version, your OS, where did you dowlnoad Eclipse
[22:24:39] <Tinason> i installed eclipse, and attempted to add the 'java development' feature. when i check the box, i get the error: JST Common Core (2.0.0.v200706041905-1007w311817231426) requires plug-in "org.eclipse.wst.common.project.facet.core (1.1.1)", or compatible.
[22:24:41] <Tinason> I am using linux, and i grabbed eclipse classic 3.3.1.1 from eclipse.org/downloads
[22:25:04] <rcjsuen> Tinason: did you click 'SelectRequired'?
[22:25:25] <Tinason> no
[22:26:00] <Tinason> i didnt know exactle wht athat would do, but having just done it, i see eclipse is no longer complaining about the dependeny issue
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[22:27:56] <Tinason> thanks mate
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[22:45:54] <rcjsuen> Tinason: k
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