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[00:24:40] <mohbana_> hey guys i am desperate need of help, my eclipse just disappeared its not on the taskbar but 'ps -e' says ' 7141 ?        00:00:00 eclipse
[00:24:41] <mohbana_> ' so i am pretty sure its working
[00:27:03] <Sukh0i> killall eclipse ;)
[00:27:25] <mohbana_> ok its been stopped not my me. :(
[00:29:54] <dominikg> ~tell mohbana_ about logs
[00:29:55] <KOS-MOS> mohbana_: Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[00:34:27] <mohbana_> ok i think its permgem, i need to change eclipse.ini right?
[00:34:45] <mohbana_> eclipse.ini; http://pastebin.com/m45df8a61
[00:35:17] <mohbana_> before i used to get a prompt from eclipse saying its going to shutdown
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[00:59:24] <mohbana_> how do i find out which version of eclipse i have, in particular the build date
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[01:02:21] <mohbana_> could someone please take a look at my eclipse.ini http://pastebin.com/m4daf4816, this site has a solution but i dont have xxmaxpermsize on mine
[01:02:26] <mohbana_> http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
[01:03:07] <nitind> mohbana_: The version and build ID for Eclipse is in the about dialog from the help menu.
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[01:18:59] <mohbana_> ok here is the bug; https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=203325 it says fixed, do i just get the newest version of eclipse?
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[01:24:15] <zx|laptop> mohbana_: that's probably the easiest way
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[01:32:45] <Fhqwhgads> is there a way to have eclipse listen to javascript events that happen within the swt browser?
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[02:06:30] <blahdeblah> Hi.  I changed my JVM from 1.6 to 1.5, then back to 1.6, and i get a bunch of errors like this: "The method run() of type new Runnable(){} must override a superclass method".  In all cases, the methods are implementing interfaces.  Why did this change?
[02:08:03] <paulweb515> blahdeblah: you might need to do a full clean and rebuild...
[02:08:22] <blahdeblah> paulweb515: It does that whenever you change JVMs
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[02:15:02] <ek0> i got spoiled by IBM's Rational Application Developer... is the an eclipse plugin to do all what RAD does.. for free :P ?
[02:17:28] <blahdeblah> ek0: I can't answer your question, but out of curiosity, what does RAD do?
[02:17:46] <ek0> visually do almost everything
[02:17:49] <ek0> :P
[02:18:02] <ek0> it's built on eclipse
[02:18:18] <ek0> has a websphere server for testing as well
[02:18:31] <blahdeblah> ek0: Can you be more specific?  Visually make coffee?  Visually turn me into a rock star?
[02:18:37] <ek0> and a monster tester
[02:19:16] <ek0> visually build applets, servlets, jsps, classes
[02:19:35] <blahdeblah> OK
[02:19:38] <ek0> darn you can implement hibernate, struts, jsf by a few clicks
[02:19:49] <blahdeblah> paulweb515: I found the problem.  It was due to the code compliance level needing to be changed to 5.0 instead of 6.0 when i switched to 1.5.
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[03:15:47] <wyvern`> Eclipse doesn't automatically add import statements for junit4 static methods. Is there some config thing I'm not setting?
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[05:02:45] <redl> re all
[05:03:07] <rcjsuen> Hi
[05:03:14] <redl> who knows addon for comfort working with wxWidgets
[05:03:23] <redl> i mean form designer
[05:03:30] <redl> >
[05:03:32] <redl> ?
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[05:19:06] <redl> =\
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[05:20:56] <rcjsuen> redl: Try the CDT newsgroup.
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[05:27:51] <redl> rcjsuen: okay
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[06:19:42] <onats> hi, is there a way to set each project in eclipse to have different environment variables?
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[09:06:37] <legendi|work> mourning
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[09:12:17] <PK> hey, do you know if it's possible to find out what colors a org.eclipse.swt.graphics.Pattern instance contains? Is there a way to query it?
[09:13:08] <legendi|work> how about opening the class with CTRL + SHIFT + T?
[09:13:38] <PK> well, I did.
[09:14:10] <PK> It's pretty empty though. It passes the informations on to Cairo in the constuctor and then they're gone.
[09:14:38] <PK> Well, maybe I take the wrong approach... I try to convert a swt pattern to an awt GradientPaint. Maybe you know a better way?
[09:17:27] <PK> I found some ways to get a few information about the pattern from Cairo using the public handle in the Pattern class. But I couldn't get the colors nor the coordinates
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[09:29:33] <raxelo> hi all. can i add oracle ant tasks to content assist ?
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[09:32:06] <legendi|work> for which editor's content assist?
[09:32:27] <legendi|work> when you're editing a build.xml the ant tasks should be available in the content assist
[09:32:37] <legendi|work> dunno about the oracle tasks
[09:32:48] <raxelo> ant editor
[09:34:05] <raxelo> legendi|work: i simply have to add that libs to ant lib directory right ?
[09:35:17] <raxelo> oh. sorry - i understood
[09:36:02] <legendi|work> er, it seems i recalled it incorrectly :-)
[09:36:37] <raxelo> that libs (ant-oracle.jar) doesnt containes classes, but relies on other one included in class-path attribute in manifest file.
[09:37:06] <legendi|work> the assist doesn't contain the ant targets
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[10:21:40] <Narada> hey guys; i'm opening up an old project in europa; i've got a gigantic list of jars that are showing up; any way to hide?
[10:22:08] <legendi|work> yes, use the filtering in the package explorer view
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[10:22:27] <legendi|work> in the upper right corner there's a small triangle pointing downwards
[10:22:33] <Narada> legendi|work: i tried hiding external libraries but that didn't work
[10:22:40] <Narada> it only hid like one or two things
[10:23:21] <legendi|work> they could be simple libs
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[10:23:53] <legendi|work> try filtering out libraries in project, that could help
[10:24:20] <Narada> i only have libraries from external and that didn't work
[10:24:36] <legendi|work> hm, thats strange
[10:25:03] <legendi|work> creating a custom filter for not showing *.jar files would make it
[10:25:20] <legendi|work> but I guess there's something wrong with the project descriptor
[10:25:40] <legendi|work> this shouldn't happen in normal circumstances
[10:26:01] <Narada> yeah ... anyway to reset the project thingie magicky
[10:27:12] <legendi|work> I know no other way than creating a new project, copying the old sources and other resources into it by hand, setting the whole classpath again, etc.
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[10:27:57] <Narada> hmmm...
[10:28:07] <Narada> okay thanks
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[10:58:44] <nullie> hello, if anyone using sftp plugin, is it possible to set ingored files for it?
[10:58:54] <nullie> or maybe I need other sftp plugin
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[11:06:19] <nethenson> hello
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[11:07:13] <nullie> hi
[11:07:22] <nethenson> I a using tomcat 5.5.25 , with java 1.5.0_1 under winXP. I am developing with JSF and myeclipse (5.5.1). I'd like to know if there is a way to inspect/debug the session beans that exist in a given moment. (the contents of one of my session beans change, and i am not able to find why)
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[11:58:45] <lnxnt> hello everyone !
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[12:22:49] <emantos> hi guys .. anybody has an idea here how to programmatically detect if a view (using the view id) is already being displayed in any workbench?
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[12:25:14] <emantos> the idea is that i wanna check first if my view is already on the workbench before i launch that view
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[12:25:32] <legendi|work> how about trying to iterating the current view references?
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[12:27:40] <emantos> hmmm .. how do u get all the current views so u could iterate on them? any pointers?
[12:27:48] <legendi|work> emantos: here's a code, maybe this helps: http://pastebin.com/d3631e594
[12:28:53] <emantos> legendi|work : thank you very much.
[12:30:06] <legendi|work> ye
[12:30:13] <legendi|work> i mean yw :-)
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[13:28:22] <nethenson> I a using tomcat 5.5.25 , with java 1.5.0_1 under winXP. I am developing with JSF and myeclipse (5.5.1). I am still trying to view/debug the contents of a session bean. (e.g. the user adds a product to his shopping chart and his browser displays the "OK, added" message. Nothing is running at that moment, but the shoppingChart bean is in memory... is there a way to view the contents of that bean at that moment?)
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[14:01:51] <linnuxxy> hi guys
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[14:02:32] <linnuxxy> I need to write a program with dynamic toolbar or coolbar
[14:03:12] <linnuxxy> which means the content of the bar changes in the runtime dynamically as response to the user selection
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[14:03:36] <linnuxxy> I tried all the methods I could get... but nothing worked out
[14:03:45] <rcjsuen> paulweb515: Paul?
[14:03:56] <paulweb515> rcjsuen: I can be paul ... why do you ask?
[14:04:13] <rcjsuen> paulweb515: figured you would know the above
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[14:05:04] <paulweb515> linnuxxy: you can use org.eclipse.ui.menus and visibleWhen to dynamically make toolbars/tool items
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[14:05:58] <rcjsuen> emantos: You could just call findView and see if it's null or not
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[14:07:20] <emantos> rcjsuen , thanks
[14:07:48] <linnuxxy> I'm sorry I got a phone call
[14:08:06] <paulweb515> linnuxxy: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Menu_Contributions has examples of placing commands in toolbars, http://wiki.eclipse.org/Command_Core_Expressions has examples of creating core expressions, and has examples of commands/handlers
[14:08:25] <paulweb515> linnuxxy: that last statement  was for http://wiki.eclipse.org/Platform_Command_Framework
[14:08:59] <linnuxxy> let me read what you have wrote
[14:09:44] <linnuxxy> 1 question please
[14:09:55] <linnuxxy> is that for eclipse or plan SWT?
[14:10:46] <rcjsuen> linnuxxy: Eclipse
[14:11:16] <linnuxxy> I'm developing an eclipse based application
[14:11:26] <linnuxxy> but it should work on tablet PC
[14:11:37] <rcjsuen> well, tablet PC is still a PC
[14:11:44] <rcjsuen> unless you're talking about an embedded device
[14:11:50] <linnuxxy> yes i know
[14:12:08] <linnuxxy> but from user interface of view
[14:12:17] <linnuxxy> I had to re-layout things
[14:12:36] <linnuxxy> I had to add my own toolbars on the view paets
[14:12:41] <linnuxxy> parts**
[14:13:09] <linnuxxy> so to be big and usable for touch screen
[14:13:27] <linnuxxy> so it is more to be a SWT now
[14:14:01] <linnuxxy> I had to add 4 toolbar... upperside, lower side, and left and right
[14:14:19] <linnuxxy> I dont know if it is possible using Eclipse APIs
[14:14:56] <linnuxxy> It is navigation system built on top of Java Worldwind
[14:16:17] <lnxnt> is there a plugin which graphically helps monitoring the mem usage of eclipse with its plugins etc ?
[14:18:08] <paulweb515> linnuxxy: the general use is within eclipse ... it has locationURIs pre-defined for the main menu, main toolbar, and all of the trim
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[14:18:47] <paulweb515> linnuxxy: but you can use it to populate your own MenuManagers and ToolBarManagers (which is SWT+JFace)
[14:19:35] <linnuxxy> so, u r suggesting to use myown ToolBarManager?
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[14:20:28] <linnuxxy> and that would allow me to dynamically add/remove buttons to the bar
[14:21:06] <linnuxxy> I will try it and report it back... cuz everything I got from Google hadn't worked for me :(
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[14:51:20] <nosemeocurrenada> hi, i have windows xp, eclipse 3.3, tomcat 5.5... i had this error when trying to run a strutTest: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/struts/tiles/DefinitionsFactoryException and the thing is that im not working with tiles!!! anyone can help me?
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[14:56:37] <redl> re all
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[14:57:20] <rcjsuen> hi
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[14:58:19] <dandre> hello,
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[14:59:26] <rcjsuen> dandre: Hi
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[14:59:32] <dandre> Is there any possibility to have the correct syntax highligting based on the first line of the file (eg #!*/perl -> perl file)
[15:00:03] <dandre> I have seen only extension based logic
[15:00:19] <rcjsuen> Don't think so.
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[15:00:40] <dandre> ok
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[15:04:39] <z4z4> dandre: you could try to extend an existing content describer for perl files, so it would also check conent of a file
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[15:05:26] <dandre> z4z4: where can I find an 'existing content describer'
[15:05:50] <z4z4> or create a describer for all kind of files which looks for a perticular on the begginng of a file
[15:06:09] <z4z4> there is an extension point for content describers
[15:06:12] <z4z4> give me a sec
[15:06:33] <rcjsuen> dandre: I figured you weren't going to write code so I didn't bring up this alternative.
[15:06:43] <rcjsuen> Although I'm not sure how reliable this mechanism is
[15:07:20] <z4z4> file:///C:/DOCUME~1/ADMINI~1/LOCALS~1/Temp/eclipse/.update/1202479828250/1202479828251/pde_schema_org-eclipse-core-runtime-contentTypes_preview.html
[15:07:27] <z4z4> ups :)
[15:08:01] <z4z4> here is a proper link
[15:08:02] <z4z4> http://help.eclipse.org/help33/index.jsp?topic=/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/extension-points/org_eclipse_core_runtime_contentTypes.html
[15:08:27] <z4z4> yep, remy might be right, but I would give it a try though
[15:09:03] <rcjsuen> There was a problem with files that didn't end with .xml
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[15:09:10] <rcjsuen> but the XMLContentDescriber never picked it up properly
[15:09:15] <rcjsuen> or something like that
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[15:12:24] <dandre> ok but as I have understood, this must be done in EPIC Plugin. I don't want to modify this plugin
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[15:14:14] <EJ> hi all, i do a plugin for eclipse, i would like color a only caracter (ex: ">") with a rule, someone can help me ?
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[15:15:59] <EJ> i had test wordRule.addWord("<",myToken); but it doesnt work
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[15:17:05] <EJ> perhaps it's only for some character between a-Z and not the ascii table or unicode ?
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[15:18:55] <rcjsuen> dandre: That's what I meant by "Don't think so".
[15:19:04] <rcjsuen> dandre: file an enhancement request to EPIC
[15:19:21] <dandre> ok thanks
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[15:58:56] <jimcan> Hi all, I have pluginA which depends on pluginB. When I try to access the preference store of pluginB from pluginA I get a nullpointer exception because pluginA hasn't been activated yet. How can I progammatically active pluginA?
[15:59:15] <jimcan> sorry, because pluginB hasn't been activated yet
[15:59:27] <jimcan> how can I programmatically active active pluginB
[16:00:03] <rcjsuen> Aren't you referencing plug-in B?
[16:00:10] <rcjsuen> when you get the preference store i mean
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[16:00:41] <rcjsuen> I would expect that bundle to be activated since you're using that class that's in that bundle.
[16:02:01] <jimcan> but it's not...pluginB doesn't seem to get loaded as soon as I start eclipse
[16:02:23] <rcjsuen> well, it shouldn't load unless it has to
[16:02:32] <jimcan> can I force it to load?
[16:02:42] <rcjsuen> jimcan: Pastebin your pref store code
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[16:03:24] <jimcan> private String testDir = Activator.getDefault().getPreferenceStore().getString(PreferenceConstants.P_HOME_PATH)
[16:03:36] <jimcan> the Activator class is from pluginB and is being called from pluginA
[16:03:52] <rcjsuen> And I guess getDefault() is returning null.
[16:04:03] <jimcan> yes
[16:04:31] <rcjsuen> Can you pastebin B's MANIFEST.MF file
[16:05:35] <jimcan> the whole thing? there are a lot of dependencies and whatnot
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[16:06:40] <rcjsuen> jimcan: Yes, the whole thing.
[16:06:49] <rcjsuen> I can't imagine it going over 100 lines
[16:06:53] <rcjsuen> and even if it did, so what ;)
[16:08:50] <jimcan> Manifest-Version: 1.0
[16:08:50] <jimcan> Bundle-ManifestVersion: 2
[16:08:50] <jimcan> Bundle-Name: Run Driver Plug-in
[16:08:50] <jimcan> Bundle-SymbolicName: rundriver;singleton:=true
[16:08:51] <jimcan> Bundle-Version: 1.1.0.5
[16:08:53] <jimcan> Bundle-Activator: rundriver.Activator
[16:08:54] <jimcan> Export-Package: rundriver,
[16:08:57] <jimcan>  rundriver.actions,
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[16:09:05] <legendi|work> :-)
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[16:09:15] <legendi|work> ~tell jimcan about pastebin
[16:09:15] <KOS-MOS> jimcan: Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
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[16:10:01] <rcjsuen> sorry, thought you knew about pastebin
[16:10:12] <jimcan> oops, I guess not
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[16:11:04] <jimcan> I was wondering why you wanted me to paste all those lines to the channel
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[16:13:02] <rcjsuen> Guess next time I mention pastebin I should add the ol' tilda just in case.
[16:13:25] <rcjsuen> jimcan: Can you also pastebin the code to the Activator class?
[16:16:50] <jimcan> damn, hang on....I appear to have lost the ability to paste
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[16:19:42] <jimcan> need to restart the computer...rcjsuen, I'll be back in a bit but thanks for the help so far
[16:19:59] <rcjsuen> ok
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[16:20:06] <rcjsuen> I might be away though
[16:20:08] <shiva> is it a bug in TraverseEvent & StyledText that whenever I getCaretOffset I get offset of the line where cursor was standing before keypress.
[16:20:48] <rcjsuen> Well, it hasn't traversed yet.
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[16:21:48] <shiva> hmm, so is there anyway to get offset of the current cursor position? possibly using something else?
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[16:22:40] <rcjsuen> shiva: you mean after a key press?
[16:22:45] <rcjsuen> there's a keyRelease in KeyListener
[16:23:45] <shiva> rcjsuen: I don't want to use that as it generates event for every key press. I guess I dont have choice, I can filter out on the keycode I would think
[16:24:20] <peter__> is there a way to "refresh" an existing but not visible view before it appears? need a trigger like setFocus()
[16:24:34] <rcjsuen> peter__: what is "refresh"
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[16:25:28] <rcjsuen> you could just write your own refresh() method and call it
[16:25:44] <rcjsuen> I suppose this is a separate story since a user could click on a vie wto bring it up
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[16:28:07] <peter__> rcjsuen: check for a structure behind the scenes and redraw contents if needed. (actually, like createPartControl but it is normally called only once on view creation)
[16:29:18] <peter__> or I could somehow reinforce the view recreation...?
[16:30:20] <paulweb515> peter__: do you use a JFace viewer?
[16:30:54] <peter__> paulweb515: no, a graphical one
[16:32:13] <paulweb515> peter__: normally you would activate a handler for the refresh command, org.eclipse.ui.file.refresh in your view createPartControl ... then hitting F5 will cause a refresh
[16:32:41] <paulweb515> peter__: the other way to do that is to have your view listen for model changes, and update itself when it receives model property change events
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[16:33:32] <peter__> well, I have the user executing a handler to switch the perspectives from editor to player. I pass over the model handle and want the view to refresh itself on this event - to redraw the model.
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[16:38:19] <peter__> ok I think I have got it. thx.
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[17:19:46] <pulse00> hi there. is there a separate channel for the C/C++ cdt plugin ?
[17:23:30] <robot_jesus> cdt
[17:23:34] <robot_jesus> #cdt
[17:23:45] <robot_jesus> hmm maybe not
[17:25:41] <hzsp> so, when's 3.4M5 being released?
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[17:25:49] <hzsp> I was hoping to take it for a spin today
[17:25:59] <robot_jesus> yea me too
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[17:27:34] <hzsp> they've got ~10 mins, then I'm going home :P
[17:27:39] <KOS-MOS> See bug 10 - API - VCM event notification (1G8G6RR) - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=10
[17:27:39] <robot_jesus>  lol
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[17:33:19] <zx|work> oh cool, she's smarter
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[17:37:00] <nono`> hello i search a plugin for validate a document with a shemas and or a dtd
[17:37:30] <nono`> and if it's possible wth the syntaxe color , and outline etc ...
[17:37:45] <robot_jesus> do you have J2EE, it should come with XML editor
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[17:39:03] <nono`> thank's, but now the plugin integrate not this function ?
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[17:39:57] <robot_jesus> its not validating ?
[17:41:06] <nono`> yes, maybe, but the validating color the text and pu the xml in a outline ?
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[17:41:18] <nono`> put * or make ?
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[17:42:38] <nono`> I search a plugin for editing the code with a dtd or shemas, with including function : outline , color text, content assist, error detection
[17:42:58] <nono`> ( sorry for my bad english)
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[17:47:47] <matt1982> hey guys when i click on a file in eclipse PDT all in one it opens it in gedit and not within the IDE any ideas?
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[17:51:42] <jpospychala> matt1982: what if you right-click on a file and select Open With->PHP Editor ?
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[17:52:09] <matt1982> hmm its set to default currently
[17:52:19] <matt1982> I think i may just need to change the default editor
[17:52:20] <jpospychala> what kind of file are you trying to open?
[17:53:41] <matt1982> a php file :S
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[17:59:36] <jpospychala> matt1982: and do you see PHP Editor option in "Open With" ?
[18:00:45] <jpospychala> maybe you need to tweak Window -> Preferences -> General -> Editor -> File Associations...
[18:00:49] <matt1982> jpospychala, no i just have 4 options "text editor", "system editor", "default editor" and "other"
[18:01:33] <jpospychala> does the file end with ".php", or sth else like .php4, .php3 ?
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[18:02:23] <matt1982> sorted it
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[18:02:38] <matt1982> there was no editor associated with the .php extension
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[18:03:39] <matt1982> actually im pretty sure PDT aint working at all lol there is no syntax or anything
[18:05:05] <aburns> I previously installed wtp-all-in-one and I think PHP and FTP/WEBDAV as separate plugins, anyway that installation was removed and I want to reinstall a similar setup, I chose the recent pdt-all-in-one which is fine, can anyone point me in the right direction to install the FTP/WEBDAV plugin to allow publishing to an external FTP server?
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[18:26:56] <legendi|work> bye all, have a nice weekend!
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[18:30:21] <zx|work> take care
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[18:33:09] <kaje1> I'm trying to learn about SWT and following a little tutorial. They have me import org.eclipse.swt.*; However, Eclipse can't find those classes... Is there an external JAR I need to reference? If so, where do I get them?
[18:34:32] <rcjsuen> ~tell aburns about tm
[18:34:33] <KOS-MOS> aburns: Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
[18:34:47] <rcjsuen> kaje1: the jar should be in eclipse/plugins/
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[18:35:28] <Mindcat> hi, i've got a question abuot plugin developement
[18:36:01] <rcjsuen> Mindcat: ask it
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[18:36:15] <kaje1> rcjsuen: can I redistribute those JARs?
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[18:36:31] <rcjsuen> kaje1: If you abide by the licenses
[18:36:56] <Mindcat> how can i create a file in a project and write on it? i see IFile only can be written with a InputStream... InputStreams cannot be written on...
[18:37:35] <rcjsuen> Mindcat: one way would be to wrap your string in a ByteArrayInputStream
[18:37:58] <rcjsuen> or make your own InputStream that does its thing when the read methods are called I suppose
[18:38:21] <Mindcat> with a regular File (java.io) you get a printstream and write on it
[18:38:41] <Mindcat> why this complication in eclipse?
[18:39:26] * rcjsuen shrugs.
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[18:43:15] <rcjsuen> Mindcat: what are you trying to do
[18:44:07] <Mindcat> to create a file in a project's root folder and write some text on it
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[18:44:38] <rcjsuen> well, you can do it in the way i suggested then
[18:49:38] <kaje1> I'd like to use SWT in a commercial application, but reading the EPL (which is what I think the SWT is licensed under) is making my head spin. Does anyone have a link to a plain english explanation of the EPL and how it relates to using the SWT in a commercial app?
[18:52:19] <aburns> rcjsuen: thanks, I'm off to look now ...
[18:52:20] <kaje1> Or I'd be happy to ask my EPL questions here if folks don't mind the discussion....?
[18:52:36] <rcjsuen> aburns: Good luck.
[18:52:52] <rcjsuen> Someone once told me the EPL was one of the more readable licenses.
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[18:53:20] <rcjsuen> Doesn't clause 4 explain 'Commercial Redistribution'?
[18:53:25] <kaje1> Well, it is nice and short
[18:53:50] <philk_> Hi! Anybody aware of a SAP JCo eclipse plugin? Did not find one on EPIC
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[18:54:37] <kaje1> Sounds like clause 4 merely talks about how a commercial contributor assumes all responsibility to defend any warranties they put on the EPL'd code...
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[18:55:12] <kaje1> What I'm wondering is stuff like, do I have to provide source for my code or allow people to redistribute it and such...
[18:55:19] <kaje1> I think that is discussed in clause 3
[18:55:53] <rcjsuen> kaje1: http://blogs.zdnet.com/Burnette/?p=131
[18:56:54] <kaje1> Thank you again rcjsuen =)
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[18:58:20] <disown> can I disable hot code replacement in any way? I see no option for that in the Java/Debug dialog.
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[18:58:43] <rcjsuen> disown: Don't go in Debug mode?
[18:59:40] <disown> rcjsuen: Well I am doing debugging, it's just that jboss doesn't support hcr apparently, and hcr fails all the time.
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[19:01:38] <rcjsuen> well, if it fails
[19:01:39] <rcjsuen> there's a checkbox
[19:01:43] <rcjsuen> to say "don't tell me it fails"
[19:01:46] <rcjsuen> or something like tha
[19:02:11] <peter__> I wish a  nice weekend to all of you. bye :)
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[19:19:36] <lgbr> my java project folder has a Red X on it, like there was an error in it somewhere. However none of the source files have errors, and it builds and runs fine. How do I fix this?
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[19:21:36] <Eisenhower> bah, can someone help me,  I just tried installing the c++ ide version of eclipse and it won't build . i'm running on vista 32.. any help would be appreciated
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[19:21:42] <oisin> this is a bit of a JDT question -- what is a 'Default System Library' classpath container, and why would it be unbound? (this is an error being reported by a headless PDE build).
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[19:22:22] <Eisenhower> oisin: thats not towards me is it?
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[19:22:49] <oisin> Eisenhower:  no, it's a general plea for help :)
[19:22:54] <Eisenhower> oh gotcha
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[19:28:14] <flaper87> hey all
[19:29:18] <flaper87> if i have a folder with a project that i was developing with gedit, how can i convert that folder into an eclipse's project?
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[19:30:30] <flaper87> anybody?
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[19:32:51] <paulweb515> flaper87: create a project, and then import your source from the File System?
[19:33:02] <flaper87> paulweb515 thanks
[19:33:10] <paulweb515> flaper87: if you were using ant, you can in theory create a java project from an ant build file as well
[19:33:21] <paulweb515> flaper87: all those options are under File>Import
[19:33:39] <flaper87> paulweb515 what is ant?
[19:33:48] <flaper87> paulweb515 i'm using the stand alone version for php
[19:33:58] <paulweb515> flaper87: ant is a build system for java
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[19:34:31] <d_a_carver> paulweb515: or really any language, it acts as a scripting language. (I used it for XSLT and XSD projects, no java involved).
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[19:37:52] <linnuxxy> I'm using ToolBarManager to create toolBar, the default behavior is to show only the icons of the actions... how can I make it show the icons and the text of the actions?
[19:38:07] <linnuxxy> paulweb515?
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[19:39:52] <flaper87> is there any plugin for eclipse to use svn?
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[19:40:42] <dominikg> ~tell flaper87 about plugins
[19:40:43] <KOS-MOS> flaper87: Look for plug-ins at the Eclipse Plug-in Central (http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/) and EclipsePlugins (http://eclipse-plugins.info)
[19:40:48] <dominikg> ~g eclipse svn
[19:40:49] <KOS-MOS> Try googling - http://google.com/search?q=eclipse+svn
[19:41:05] <flaper87> KOS-MOS yeap, i found it
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[19:47:01] <paulweb515> linnuxxy: fill your toolbar using ActionContributionItems and use setMode(*) check out the javadocs
[19:47:24] <linnuxxy> paulweb515: thank you man
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[19:51:26] <getBoa> Hi y'all, Im trying to override the method execute() from Action class, but it doesnt shows up, only 2 methods comes out, getServlet and setServlet. Any idea? running on Eclipse Europa !!
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[19:56:51] <Windcape> hi, how do I make eclipse remember what methods I folded , even if I close the document and open it later?
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[20:01:21] <paulweb515> Windcape: will 3.3 not do that for you?
[20:01:45] <paulweb515> Windcape: it probably means that the folding information is not saved across editor restarts
[20:01:51] <Windcape> using 3.3.1 , and it's not saved
[20:02:16] <Windcape> paulweb515 not even eclipse retard, just a simple close and open of the same file in the same eclipse instance don't save anything
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[20:04:05] <paulweb515> Windcape: that's deliberate ... closing an editor and re-opening it will not save state
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[20:04:42] <Zack1403> hey all, is there any way to see why a project wont build?
[20:04:48] <dominikg> Windcape, if you want to focus on some methods, you may want to have a closer look at mylyn and its focussed options
[20:06:12] <dominikg> other options would be the java browsing perspective or the preference 'only show source of the selected element'
[20:06:50] <dominikg> and lastly there is a plugin called coffeebytes, that sports advanced folding options (any type of block can be folded)
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[20:08:10] <Windcape> okay, thanks
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[20:30:45] <mhaller> yippey found a new eclipse bug. someone wants to review?
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[20:32:57] <konigsberg> Hello all.
[20:33:01] <konigsberg> This is just strange.
[20:33:15] <konigsberg> I have a dialog box that includes a 'refresh' button.
[20:33:23] <konigsberg> The refresh button performs an expensive operation.
[20:33:37] <konigsberg> I wound up writing http://pastebin.ca/896552
[20:33:44] <konigsberg> Which is, my god, it's verbose.
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[20:33:53] <konigsberg> You've got to be kidding me -- is that the way to do it?
[20:34:09] <alphaaa__> is it useful to initiate a variable to null ?
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[20:34:53] <paulweb515> alphaaa__: sometimes ... for example, the JVM rejects conditional breakpoints for objects that aren't initialized when they're created
[20:35:38] <alphaaa__> can a method return a variable that has never been initialized ?
[20:35:50] <mhaller> konigsberg: its probably easier to user the Progress Service or just run Jobs
[20:36:05] <mhaller> konigsberg: creating the Progress Dialog yourself is, yes, verbose
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[20:37:38] <mhaller> konigsberg: I see you're using getELements and setElements. would it be possible for you to use a lazy/deferred content provider for the viewer of your domain items?
[20:38:30] <konigsberg> mhaller, thanks
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[20:38:40] <konigsberg> It's an inlined ElementListSelectionDialog.
[20:39:15] <konigsberg> Hmm...
[20:39:19] <alphaaa__> can a method return a variable that has never been initialized ?
[20:39:44] <konigsberg> Would that eliminate the additional inner classes?
[20:40:02] <konigsberg> alphaaa_ some things are implicitly initialized, but no, you can't really return uninitialized data.
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[20:40:27] <mhaller> konigsberg: not sure about how to do it for Dialogs, i missed that in your explanation. i just assumes you've got a free process somewhere, but not that you're within a dialog already.
[20:40:35] <echoMirage> at least your method should initialize it alphaaa
[20:41:01] <mhaller> konigsberg: what can the user do wile you're showing the progress bar?
[20:41:01] <konigsberg> mhaller, I did mention that at the very beginning, but no big deal.
[20:41:07] <konigsberg> Not much really.
[20:41:15] <konigsberg> During code review my colleague suggested the PMD
[20:41:28] <konigsberg> I crafted it and then I got this miss.
[20:41:29] <konigsberg> mess
[20:41:33] <mhaller> konigsberg: so you've got two dialogs - the underlying ListElementSelectionDialog and the PMD
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[20:43:00] <alphaaa__> ok
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[20:43:18] <konigsberg> mhaller, that is correct
[20:43:21] <mhaller> konigsberg: i would create my own dialog and use ProgressMonitorPart, like the WizardDialog does. I don't like having dialogs on top of other dialogs.
[20:44:03] <mhaller> konigsberg: another way is just to use a  BusyIndicator.showWhile, but you still would have an anonymous inner class most of the cases, unless you force to another design :)
[20:44:10] <konigsberg> mhaller, you would love this: it's a dialog, inside a dialog, inside a wizard!
[20:44:29] <mhaller> konigsberg: :-] well, it's friday, perhaps I should be more tolerant
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[20:44:43] <Zerone> ello :)
[20:45:12] <konigsberg> I think you may be right, but for now I'm going to leave this be.
[20:45:23] <konigsberg> But OK, at least it sort of makes sense.
[20:45:31] <konigsberg> Maybe I'll replace it with the BusyIndicator instead.
[20:45:39] <konigsberg> Just so it doesn't cram another dialog on top of it.
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[20:46:26] <mhaller> konigsberg: i see your point with having a lot of messy anonymous classes, but it's easy to hide that with named classes just to clean up the formatting if you like
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[20:47:09] <Mician> hello world
[20:47:26] <mhaller> konigsberg: is the expensive refresh operation a remote call or something? or would it be possible to grab partial results from the operation, e.g. showing *real* progress while loading/preparing/refreshing ?
[20:47:52] * mhaller would love to have remote calls or jdbc calls somehow implement IProgressMonitor :)
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[20:47:59] <echoMirage> how do i close a window, which i created without a closing adapter? didnt find a task manager..
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[20:48:49] <mhaller> echoMirage: are you talking about SWT DisposeListener?
[20:49:45] <echoMirage> it? just a regular text window  (awt frame)
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[20:53:44] <echoMirage> think i need a "hard shutdown" or something like that.
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[21:00:02] <Mician> hello i search a debugger of xsd ( shemas xml) where i can find that , pleasy ?
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[21:08:59] <mhaller> Mician: *debugging* XML Schema?. well you might try Oxygene XML
[21:09:14] <Mician> :/ i am not rich
[21:09:27] <mhaller> it's not that expensive
[21:09:32] <Mician> a gpl license or free edition doesnt exist ?
[21:09:37] <mhaller> write one
[21:09:42] <Mician> yes ok
[21:09:56] <mhaller> coo. leave me a note when you're finished
[21:10:03] <Mician> ok
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[21:10:44] <Mician> if someone are interrest with develop a xsd debugger, come on
[21:11:21] <mhaller> how would you define an XSD Debugger, e.g. what would you expect it to do?
[21:11:45] <rcjsuen> there's a new incubating project at wtp that's going to deal with xslt and such technologies
[21:12:04] <Mician> oO
[21:12:12] <Mician> i can help them ?
[21:12:32] <rcjsuen> Mician: It's open source.
[21:12:37] <rcjsuen> Mician: that is up to you or your boss
[21:12:40] <Mician> yes nop
[21:13:07] <Mician> it's for my study
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[21:16:59] <mhaller> rcjsuen: would you please have a short look on my showcase for a new eclipse bug I believe to have found? http://pastebin.com/d1fa2ed3a
[21:17:46] <rcjsuen> mhaller: I'm watching something right now but can take a look in 30-40 minutes.
[21:17:55] <rcjsuen> mhaller: If you can reproduce it on a recent build, file a bug.
[21:18:57] <mhaller> rcjsuen: i'm unsure if it's technically valid, therefore i'm asking for review
[21:19:21] <konigsberg> mhaller, the expensive operation is running something on the command-line.
[21:19:35] <konigsberg> The truth is, mhaller, it's either going to take 0.2 seconds, or minutes.
[21:20:53] <mhaller> konigsberg: i assume users are aware of that and won't be very angry about busy indicators, since they're used to the "old system which takes so long to refresh", right?
[21:21:35] <mhaller> konigsberg: on the other hand, there is probably know way of knowing how long the command line program will take until it completes, because it does not have any means of progress information
[21:23:33] <Zerone> ello rcjsuen :)
[21:23:36] <Zerone> ello mhaller :)
[21:23:37] <rcjsuen> hi
[21:23:42] <Mician> nice evening, thx for all, cya
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[21:23:56] <konigsberg> mhaller, no, this is a new dialog.
[21:24:14] <konigsberg> mhaller, I think I'm just going to have the thing die after 3 seconds if it doesn't return in time.
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[21:31:47] <mhaller> alo zerone, que'est-ce que tu fait?
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[21:34:19] <rcjsuen> Zack1403: well, if it fails there are usually errors
[21:34:24] <rcjsuen> or if it's an internal error, check your ~logs
[21:34:24] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[21:40:00] <rcjsuen> mhaller: well, getClass() is not explicit so it's calling EclipseRefactoring's getClass()
[21:40:02] <flaper87> guys how can i get syntax coloring for a .inf file?
[21:40:06] <rcjsuen> instead of Foo.this.getClass() I suppose.
[21:40:19] <flaper87> i mean, how can i add this extension to the php syntax coloring?
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[21:41:00] <rcjsuen> ~content-type
[21:41:00] <KOS-MOS> How do I open my own file types in the WTP/PDT editors? http://wiki.eclipse.org/WTP_FAQ#How_do_I_use_my_own_filename_extensions_in_the_XML_editor.3F_It_only_works_correctly_if_a_file_ends_with_.xml.
[21:41:05] <rcjsuen> flaper87: something like that ^
[21:41:17] <rcjsuen> mhaller: imma go afk
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[21:43:20] <mhaller> thanks rcjsuen
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[21:44:28] <nitind> .inf is php?
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[21:51:52] <mhaller> nitind: no?
[21:55:32] <rcjsuen> mhaller: i think i know what you're getting at
[21:55:35] <rcjsuen> mhaller: dunno how the api is spec'ed
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[22:24:25] <lorbrito> hey,, someting know what happend whit the java chanel?
[22:24:55] <rcjsuen> lorbrito: I joined ##java just fine.
[22:25:01] <robot_jesus> wow your grammar is  bad
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[22:28:31] <asimismo> Anybody know of good resources for hints on how to add copy/paste to a tree using 3.3's Command capabilities?
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[22:33:18] <karstensrage_> is there any way to change the key bindings in eclipse.. like remap the '[' to '(' and vice versa
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[22:35:46] <mhaller> karstensrage_: yes, see Window > Preferences > Key Bindings
[22:36:14] <mhaller> asimismo: EMF?
[22:36:57] <karstensrage_> mhaller, i did look at that but it seems to only allow keys to be mapped to commands?
[22:37:06] <rcjsuen> karstensrage_: what are you trying to do
[22:37:39] <karstensrage_> map '[' to '(' and vice verse
[22:37:41] <asimismo> mhaller: UI Forms master/detail fronting an EMF model
[22:37:51] <mhaller> karstensrage_: you're right, i think you cannot remap normal characters. perhaps you should do that in the OS anyway?
[22:38:14] <karstensrage_> emacs can do it :)
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[22:38:21] <mhaller> asimismo: the generated EMF Editor does copy/paste, did you find that?
[22:38:49] <rcjsuen> karstensrage_: so when you press [ i nthe text editor you want ( to appear? yes, i don't think that is possible like mhaller mentioned
[22:39:08] <mhaller> i'd declare that as a weirdo requirement anway :-D
[22:39:42] <karstensrage_> its not a weirdo requirement if you have to type an awful lot of parentheses
[22:39:47] <rcjsuen> mhaller: I sure don't need it, but *shrugs*
[22:39:54] <mhaller> karstensrage_: well, you might try to subclass the existing editors and do that within the editors.
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[22:40:09] <karstensrage_> too much work
[22:40:22] <rcjsuen> karstensrage_: then file an RFE
[22:40:44] <rcjsuen> I presume that isn't a lot of work.
[22:40:56] <mhaller> karstensrage_: when perhaps you should map them on two free other keys and use an OS-tool for that kind of mapping. e.g. map them to the numpad or something like that.
[22:41:02] <asimismo> mhaller: Does it use the command framework? I ran across this recent thread: http://www.eclipsezone.com/eclipse/forums/t106593.html
[22:41:05] <asimismo> mhaller: I'm not using the generated editors at the moment, but I could look at them for inspiration I suppose. Sometimes EMF trails the rest of the community because it uses home-grown stuff it invented first.
[22:41:28] <mhaller> asimismo: you're right, it's the EMF Command, not the Eclipse Command.
[22:42:16] <asimismo> mhaller: Though that's a good reminder... I'm using a TransactionalEditingDomain...
[22:42:18] <mhaller> asimismo: because the Copy/paste is done on your own domain model
[22:42:53] <mhaller> asimismo: yeah, if you use Eclipse Command, then you probably miss the EMF features. hmm, haven't done much with it, so not sure
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[22:43:13] <asimismo> mhaller: IOperation...
[22:43:58] <Zerone> ello asimo :)
[22:44:51] <asimismo> Hey Z
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[22:54:08] <lazlofruvous> hey all -- trying to write some scripts to set up an eclipse workspace so that co-workers don't have to manually set all the dependencies, etc, in our product... i can auto generate the .classpath and .project files, but i'm not sure what i need to do to get the workspace to include the projects once you launch eclipse. all the stuff in .metadata seems to be binary files, rather than XML
[22:54:37] <rcjsuen> Include the projects?
[22:54:41] <rcjsuen> Projects could be anywhere.
[22:54:48] <rcjsuen> you could have your coworkers File > Import some zip file I s'pose
[22:54:58] <rcjsuen> or checkout from SCM (the obvious choice)
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[22:55:46] <lazlofruvous> rcjsuen: ok, maybe i should explain more... the script checks a bunch of stuff out of CVS into one parent directory, which will be the eclipe workspace... i'd like them to be able to start eclipse, point it at the parent directory, and have the rest already configured. does that sound possible?
[22:56:14] <rcjsuen> Not really.
[22:56:18] <rcjsuen> "the rest" is also very ambiguous
[22:56:59] <lazlofruvous> well to start, i'd like the projects to show up in the explorer. more fancy stuff would be to set some compiler options and stuff like that... i was hoping that would be controlled by a similar XML file
[22:57:19] <rcjsuen> Compiler options should be set on a per-project basis
[22:57:23] <rcjsuen> which would be in each project's .settings folder
[22:57:24] <asimismo> lazlofruvous: Have you looked into Buckminster?
[22:57:28] <rcjsuen> I'm assuming you're talking about Java here.
[22:58:41] <lazlofruvous> yeah, java
[22:59:29] <lazlofruvous> our "product" is actually several products and a few frameworks which get built into an .ear, and for better or for worse, the sources are split throughout the repository, so it's not especially feasible to have them appear as one project in eclipse
[22:59:41] <lazlofruvous> but since they're all built together, we use global compiler settings
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[23:04:10] <asimismo> lazlofruvous: Buckminster obviates the need for your scripts
[23:04:20] <asimismo> lazlofruvous: It does exactly what you're trying to do
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[23:15:52] <lazlofruvous> buckminster seems to make the JBoss AS tool break
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[23:22:10] <robinr> lazlofruvous: File/Export/Team (and then import) is a way of importing many projects at once
[23:23:56] <lazlofruvous> robinr: sweet, thanks, that looks helpful
[23:24:51] * robinr makes a note about having that with the git plugin too
[23:28:11] <robinr> Is there a psf for importing the appropriate projects for eclipse itself?
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[23:34:15] <lazlofruvous> robinr: looks like the team project set export is not quite what i want: it is designed to then have eclipse check out code and set up the project... we have code already checked out (because we have necessary/terible configuration of branches) managed by another tool
[23:34:38] <lazlofruvous> what i'd like is something like the .psf which can just take some file:// paths, rather than repository paths (ie CVS pserver, svn, etc)
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[23:34:57] <lazlofruvous> know of anything like that?
[23:41:20] <robinr> well import project find all projects from some directory down
[23:42:01] <robinr> that will work if you do not have a lot of garbage projects lying around
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[23:57:26] <lazlofruvous> robinr: actually, that's kind of perfect
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