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[00:10:18] <indio> Where do I find com.mysql.jdbc.Driver ?
[00:10:36] <indio> x86, Ubuntu Linux
[00:10:48] <indio> I have libmysql-java installed.
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[00:11:09] <indio> I don't know where to find the .jar file I need.
[00:11:18] <rcjsuen> probably better luck asking the Ubuntu packagers
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[00:12:19] <rcjsuen> I don't use Ubuntu myself, so I have no idea anyway.
[00:12:49] <indio> Is com.mysql.jdbc.Driver a file ?
[00:13:23] <rcjsuen> it's probably a Driver.class file in some jar
[00:16:18] <indio> ./usr/share/java/mysql-connector-java-5.0.4.jar Looks like it is this one file.
[00:17:06] <rcjsuen> indio: try
[00:17:16] <rcjsuen> jar -tf /usr/share/java/mysql-connector-java-5.0.4.jar | grep Driver
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[00:19:16] <indio> rcjsuen: Thanks again. It worked.
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[00:37:10] <krypt1> question: for mylyn: which is better bugzilla or trac ?
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[00:57:43] <rawblem> anyone from wtp here?
[00:57:55] <rawblem> eidolon:  howdy =D
[00:57:59] <rawblem> eidolon:  how've you been?
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[00:58:45] <rawblem> nitind:   how would I check out the 2.0.2 stream for wtp servertools?  I have a patch I'd like to make but all I know how to CO is head
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[00:59:40] <rawblem> nitind:  the download page says they're at 2.0.2RC1
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[01:00:00] <mohbana> could someone please tell me which version of eclipse removes this https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=203325 (PermGen issue)
[01:00:21] <nitind> rawblem: In the CVS Repo view, expand the repo's Branches node and choose "refresh branches..." from the context menu.  You should be able to choose the plug-in projects you want to look in and then check out their R2_0_maintenance branches.
[01:00:41] <rawblem> nitind:  thanks for your help.
[01:00:44] <undeclaredx> Using the eclipse IDE for PHP, is there a way for it to auto-copy, or just use the files in another directory? (I can't really have my project directory be anything but my actual webserver root otherwise it won't work)?
[01:01:38] <nitind> undeclaredx: You can createa file or folder and set its real Location in the Advanced section of the wizard to be elsewhere, like in the webserver root.
[01:01:45] <undeclaredx> thanks, nitind
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[01:05:10] <undeclaredx> where can I find that?
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[01:05:46] <undeclaredx> I see a way to import files, or drag and drop.. but no advanced section
[01:06:09] <nitind> undeclaredx: New File and New Folder wizard.
[01:06:52] <undeclaredx> nitind: its not new files, its existing files
[01:07:04] <undeclaredx> ahh found it
[01:07:46] <undeclaredx> thanks
[01:07:49] <undeclaredx> ill see if it works shortly ;0
[01:07:57] <rawblem> mohbana:   i dont know if it's fixed but you can always modify your eclipse.ini by hand
[01:10:13] <undeclaredx> thanks nitind
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[01:24:29] <wyvern`> how does eclipse use a build.xml file if one is present?
[01:24:41] <wyvern`> I was having bizarre build path issues (well, I still am) and removing build.xml helped some of them
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[01:29:23] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: it depends on how you have your project setup.
[01:29:39] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: did you import your project from an existing build.xml
[01:29:42] <wyvern`> no
[01:30:02] <wyvern`> i exported the build.xml a few days ago to test something weird (eclipse was saying something was wrong, but javac built it fine...)
[01:30:11] <wyvern`> and now i have the same type of issue
[01:30:34] <wyvern`> Eclipse tells me The constructor LogEventXMLProcessor(Collection<LogEvent>, InputStream) is undefined, but: public LogEventXMLProcessor(Collection<LogEvent> eventList, InputStream xmlInStream)
[01:30:43] <jtong> how can i format multiple files on eclipse? i seem to be able to format but can't save all at once so have to open up each file individually and then pressing save
[01:30:46] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: Hmmm...sounds like a class path issue.
[01:30:56] <wyvern`> d_a_carver, it resolves the class fine
[01:31:04] <wyvern`> it even tab completes the constructor
[01:31:28] <xleonardox> hi there, everyone... maybe somebody could help me out... i'm using using ubuntu 7.10, and its corresponding eclipse package (version 3.2). the thing is i'd like to use pdt plugin in order to do my php projects, but i keep getting an error msg referring to "org.eclipse.tomcat"... i've already downloaded this file (tomcatPluginV321.zip) but i keep getting this error... any tips?
[01:31:44] <wyvern`> try using phpeclipse instead
[01:32:08] <xleonardox> wyvern`, may i find it on the main eclipse site?
[01:32:14] <wyvern`> xleonardox, google
[01:32:18] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: well, you could check to make sure that the build.xml isn't set as one of the builders in eclipse project properties->Builders
[01:32:31] <d_a_carver> ~php
[01:32:31] <KOS-MOS> Take a look at PDT (http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/) or PHPEclipse (http://www.phpeclipse.de)
[01:32:33] <wyvern`> d_a_carver, just Java Builder
[01:32:44] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: hmmm...
[01:33:12] <wyvern`> the really weird part is, i have almost identical code elsewhere that does basically exactly the same thing and it works fine
[01:33:19] <xleonardox> wyvern`, anyway, i got curious about this awful error msgs... is there a link i could possible add to the update manager so that i could automaticaly install this tomcat plugin?
[01:33:36] <xleonardox> KOS-MOS, that's right pdt i'm trying to use :)
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[01:34:14] <wyvern`> d_a_carver, i'm not blind, right? That is the right type declaration...
[01:34:37] <d_a_carver> xleonardox: if you are using ubuntu then don't use the one that comes in the synaptic, get it from eclipse instead.  You can download a PDT All-In-One build that will get you all the php stuff you need.
[01:34:50] <d_a_carver> ~tell xleonardox about linux-install
[01:34:51] <KOS-MOS> xleonardox: Trying to install Eclipse on Linux? http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_install_Eclipse_on_Linux.3F
[01:35:22] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: it should work.
[01:35:35] <wyvern`> it does have the import (obviously since it knows the class)
[01:35:36] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: anything in your log files?
[01:35:45] <wyvern`> if i typo the class name it flags that as "unresolved type"
[01:36:19] <d_a_carver> do you have the package imported?
[01:36:27] <wyvern`> yes
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[01:36:51] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: you can put the cursor in that error message and hit CTRL+1 it should give you some suggestions to fix it.
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[01:37:33] <wyvern`> hm
[01:38:17] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: you might also want to check the order of your jars on your classpath, sounds like another jar might be stomping on you. but that is just a guess.
[01:38:57] <wyvern`> why isn't it screwing up in the other place I call that constructor then :(
[01:39:06] <wyvern`> all of the suggestions are to fix things that are already actually there
[01:39:17] <wyvern`> like, it suggests that I change the type of eventList to Collection<LogEvent>
[01:39:23] <wyvern`> but: private final Collection<LogEvent> eventList = new LinkedList<LogEvent>();
[01:40:51] <wyvern`> none of the suggestions fix it.
[01:41:09] <wyvern`> is there a way i can totally blow away all build products and have it start completely from scratch
[01:41:39] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: you can do a Project->Clean
[01:41:50] <wyvern`> yeah, that didn't help
[01:42:13] <d_a_carver> wyvern: You could also just create another Java Project, and copy your source files over to the new project.
[01:42:47] <wyvern`> as in, not create a project via a new checkout, but just copy the java files over?
[01:42:54] <wyvern`> bleh, that's a lotta jars to re-add to the build path. :(
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[01:44:08] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: create a Library and add the library to the build path instead of individual jars, or if they are in the same folder add teh folder to the build path.
[01:44:50] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: yeah create the project from scratch...if it works...then copy the working files, including the .classpath over to the none working one.
[01:45:08] <wyvern`> the .classpath is correct, afaict
[01:45:30] <wyvern`> has a bunch of jars in it and my source folders
[01:45:43] <wyvern`> (src/main/java, src/test/java and sandbox/src)
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[01:47:28] <wyvern`> totally new project has the same problem.
[01:48:03] <d_a_carver> something is screwy going on here....not sure what else to try.
[01:48:18] <wyvern`> if i export an ant build script from the new project, it builds cleanly
[01:48:39] <wyvern`> wait, hang on, no it doesn't
[01:48:42] <wyvern`> but it has a different error
[01:49:16] <wyvern`> oh, just a different way of sayingi t
[01:49:20] <wyvern`>     [javac] symbol  : constructor LogEventXMLProcessor(java.util.Collection<LogEvent>,java.io.InputStream)
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[01:53:28] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: I still think it has something to do with your classpath.
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[01:54:41] <wyvern`> d_a_carver, but i didn't copy over the .classpath
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[01:55:26] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: don't know if this will help. http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.tools.jdt/msg18703.html
[01:56:36] <wyvern`> but i'm not doing anything complicated. Aaaaaaagh
[01:56:42] <wyvern`> Why does it fail only on THIS file
[01:57:12] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: what happens if you take one of the suggestions in the CTRL+1 list.
[01:57:22] <d_a_carver> yeah I know they already in the file.
[01:57:26] <wyvern`> I tried all of them
[01:57:30] <wyvern`> i let it do whatever it wanted
[01:57:32] <wyvern`> didn't help
[01:57:41] <wyvern`> almost all of them were no-ops
[01:57:46] <d_a_carver> can you pastebin the file in question, maybe I can see something.
[01:57:52] <d_a_carver> ~pastebin
[01:57:52] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[01:58:32] <wyvern`> yeah, surel.
[01:59:33] <wyvern`> http://rafb.net/p/FRSyIe81.html
[01:59:45] <wyvern`> line 49
[01:59:56] <wyvern`> (I stripped out irrelevant comments & things so the line numbers don't match the javac error output)
[02:00:34] <d_a_carver> is this: package <pkg> correct?
[02:00:46] <wyvern`> i changed that. it's actually the right package. ;)
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[02:00:57] <wyvern`> just didn't want to distract you
[02:01:12] <d_a_carver> :)
[02:01:39] <d_a_carver> which line are you getting the unresolved type error on?
[02:01:45] <wyvern`> in that paste, 49
[02:02:02] <wyvern`> and just for reference: constructor is declared as public LogEventXMLProcessor(Collection<LogEvent> eventList, InputStream xmlInStream)
[02:03:15] <d_a_carver> did you try (<LogEvent> this.eventList
[02:03:40] <wyvern`> that's one of the ctrl-1 suggestions; didn't work
[02:04:32] <d_a_carver> this type of stuff is why I don't like Java 5 and Java 6. :)
[02:06:03] <wyvern`> weird. when I have a build.xml in place and i've built the stuff with ant, other type issues pop up in eclipse
[02:06:10] <wyvern`> when i rm build.xml and Clean, they go away
[02:06:18] <wyvern`> (but not the main one I've been fighting with)
[02:07:04] <wyvern`> and i have checked that they're both using java.io.InputStream and java.util.Collection
[02:09:17] <d_a_carver> wyvern: yeah this so some funky java 5 generics thing.
[02:09:45] <d_a_carver> and if you are getting it when you use javac it isn't eclipse specific.
[02:11:00] <wyvern`> but i have exactly the same code elsewhere and it works fine >:(
[02:11:38] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: unfortunately something is different between where it works elsewhere and why it isn't working here.
[02:11:54] <wyvern`> yeah... a rhetorical question; i don't expect magic :)
[02:12:58] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: is it working in the same project elsewhere, but not this one file.
[02:13:21] <wyvern`> yes
[02:14:32] <wyvern`> i'm gonna try updating files one at a time between the last time it worked and the last checkin (where it didn't work)
[02:17:21] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: yeah, and I bet it going to something simple that we are missing.
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[02:21:31] <wyvern`> basically the problem only happens in that one file.
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[02:26:32] <wyvern`> Aagh. When I create a new file in the same package as the broken file and copy the source from the WORKING file it doesn't work.
[02:26:40] <xleonardox> wyvern`, i'd like to thank you and d_a_carver... the tip of installing pdt-all-in-one worked perfectly!
[02:27:09] <d_a_carver> xleonardox: glad it worked.
[02:27:34] <d_a_carver> wyvern`: delete the old file, and rename the new file to the old name.
[02:28:15] <xleonardox> the only trouble now is that i won't be able to use the ease of apt for upgrading the eclipse package... anyway... :)
[02:28:27] <xleonardox> thanks, guys
[02:28:36] <d_a_carver> xleonardox: it's actually better and less error prone to get it from eclipse. :)
[02:28:51] <xleonardox> ;)
[02:29:10] <xleonardox> well... gotta go now... nice to meet you all
[02:29:11] <d_a_carver> ubuntu's packages are at least 6 months to a year behind.
[02:30:06] <wyvern`> d_a_carver, but the new file doesn't work either
[02:30:25] <wyvern`> basically when i take a working file from package A and put it in package B (where the broken file is), the previously workign file also breaks.
[02:30:39] <wyvern`> fwiw, the working file is in a different source directory.
[02:31:49] <d_a_carver> <shrug> I'm outta ideas.
[02:32:00] <wyvern`> aaaagh...
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[03:49:13] <obf213> hi, when ever i debug a file i have to go through hours of Launcher$ExtClassLoader(URLClassLoader).findClass(String) in the debugger before it actually get to debugging my code, i have turned off "Suspend execution on uncaught errors", any ideas as to how i get this to go away.
[03:51:11] <obf213> it runs URLClassLoader and throws ClassNotFoundException, but my code doesn't break and works during run time, i just have to iterate through this for every class in my project
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[04:44:19] <mobiGeek> morning folks!
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[04:44:48] <obf213> yo
[04:44:50] <mobiGeek> This a place to ask CVS-perspective questions?
[04:45:09] <rcjsuen> mobiGeek: This is a place to ask Eclipse questions, so yes.
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[04:46:02] <mobiGeek> I have a file in head at v 1.3.  I want to add it to an old branch that was created before the file was created.  Is there a way with the CVS perspective to "import" that file to the branch?
[04:46:34] <mobiGeek> I want to import v1.3
[04:46:57] <mobiGeek> (import/add/whatever-the-term-should-be)
[04:48:25] <rcjsuen> obf213: Hi
[04:48:50] <obf213> hey.
[04:49:51] <obf213> when i run through debugger I have to run through a bunch of classNotFoundExceptions before the debugger gets to my actual code, which works fine from there. ive looked this up online but the solution of turning off unhandled exception under pref. doesnt work for me, any ideas?
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[04:56:21] <obf213> lol
[04:56:28] <rcjsuen> ?
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[05:04:38] <mobiGeek> obf213 is it possible you have ClassNotFoundException set as an exception to catch ?
[05:05:40] <obf213> mobiGeek im not sure. i haven't really messed with any settings
[05:05:53] <obf213> ive turned off unhandled exceptions and it still comes up
[05:06:51] <mobiGeek> obf213: go to the Breakpoints tab and see if it is listed there.
[05:09:16] <obf213> sorry mobiGeek where is this tab?
[05:09:38] <obf213> i dont see it under debug menu in preferences
[05:11:28] <mobiGeek> obf213: are you using the debug perspective ?
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[05:11:52] <obf213> o you mean in the debug perspective. one sec
[05:13:02] <obf213> mobiGeek, ok, that window wasn't in my perspective. u may have solved my problem
[05:13:24] <obf213> thanks :-), that was so annoying
[05:14:03] <mobiGeek> LOL.  np.
[05:14:34] <mobiGeek> how exactly to you use "debugging" if you aren't in the debug perspective?  (I'm fairly new to Eclipse)
[05:15:53] <obf213> no i had debug perspective open
[05:16:01] <mobiGeek> ah, i see
[05:16:02] <obf213> but the breakpoints view wasn't int the perspective
[05:16:07] <mobiGeek> k
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[05:52:12] <yi> hey, is it possible to switch between editor tabs in eclipse using cmd-# (on OSX) like in firefox?
[05:52:28] <yi> the only relevant key binding i could find is cmd+F6 which is not quite teh same
[05:52:31] <yi> err, 'the'
[05:52:59] <rcjsuen> yi: There's also Ctrl+PgUp/Down
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[05:53:50] <yi> rcjsuen: yeah but again that's really cycling and not saying "i want to go to tab 5"
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[07:13:03] <onats> is there a quick way to upgrade 3.2 to 3.3?
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[08:02:55] <tracMan2K> i have officially gone nuts trying to test my eclipse plugin
[08:03:43] <tracMan2K> im basically trying to use the package org.eclipse.jdt.testplugin which is in the org.eclipse.jdt.ui.tests plugin
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[08:04:45] <tracMan2K> can anyone give me a hand? why is checking out and building an eclipse plugin so troublesome?
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[08:41:42] <alexseif> Hi, is there a plugin that will give you a good intelliscence for javascript?
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[09:01:48] <hueblur__> so -- how do I turn off the completetion of quotes?
[09:02:03] <hueblur__> completion, even
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[09:47:37] <csaba> I've started oc4j in debugging mode and it's listening on port 3301 for a connection. I connect to this port with Eclipse. This works, and when I reach a breakpoint, this is shown in Eclipse. The problem is I can't display the value of any expression.
[09:48:01] <csaba> Whatever expression I evaluate, I always get the message "Evaluations must contain either an expression or a block of well-formed statements"
[09:48:11] <csaba> Any idea how to fix this?
[09:48:32] <csaba> The variables are ok though, only the expression evaluation doesn't work
[09:48:50] <csaba> I have Eclipse 3.3.1.1 on linux
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[09:56:18] <nullie> hello, is there INI editor for eclipse?
[09:57:11] <lemmy> nullie, you might wanna check EPIC
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[09:59:36] <nullie> lemmy, perl?
[09:59:47] <lemmy> EclipsePluginCentral
[09:59:58] <lemmy> ~EPIC
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[10:00:19] <nullie> oh
[10:01:05] <lemmy> http://eclipseplugincentral.com/
[10:01:45] <nullie> ok
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[10:32:26] <gromgull> I have a problem with bundles depending on javax.jws and using java6. In 6 jws classes are bundled with the jvm, and eclipse gets confused when I try to import them from my own package of javax.jws...
[10:32:37] <gromgull> i.e. it thinks I try to get them from jvm/lib/rt.jar
[10:32:50] <gromgull> which has an access restriction because my bundles are all set to java5 compatability
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[10:34:07] <gromgull> So I get: Access restriction: The type WebService is not accessible due to restriction on required library /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun-1.6.0.00/jre/lib/rt.jar
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[10:43:48] <gromgull> Ah - the solution is that the lines in .classpath must have plugin dependencies listed before JRE library
[10:44:46] <havocologe> i have problems with eclipse freezing during work on my linux machine. i cannot reproduce it 100% but it seems it hase something to do with the dynamic error marking
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[11:40:03] <sagieg> is there anyway in eclipse i can hide all remarks from my code?
[11:40:11] <sagieg> and then put them back in
[11:41:02] <sagieg> humm i guess i could change there color to white..
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[13:08:21] <al-_-Gir> eclipse can tell hint me all the variable in the autocomplete that i have add ? ( like if i have variable $counter it will show me it to me when i type $ ?)
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[13:21:19] <fifo_> How can I run a command after my "Java Builder" ?
[13:21:36] <fifo_> I want to run a script after every build.
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[13:24:21] <fifo_> Can I even make an "External Tool" that runs a bash script?
[13:27:57] <al-_-Gir> i can change the envent on keys ?
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[13:37:11] <rcjsuen> hueblur__: Thta's in the preferences.
[13:38:54] <rcjsuen> fifo_: Yes, that should be posible.
[13:38:58] <rcjsuen> al-_-Gir: Event on keys?
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[13:40:43] <al-_-Gir> rcjsueni want it to be like ms web developer , if i have the tag "<di" and i press ">"  i will get "<div>|</div>"
[13:41:31] <rcjsuen> you mean <div and press>?
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[13:43:00] <al-_-Gir> no ... i mean if i have part of the name and i press ">" it will automatic choose the first tag that match and will type and close it like typed "<di" -> ">" -> "<div></div"
[13:43:39] <rcjsuen> I dunno, WST might support that
[13:43:47] <rcjsuen> But I didn't really use that extensively.
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[14:12:42] <Kezza491> Hi
[14:12:42] <Kezza491> Is there a CSS editor that you can get with eclipse?
[14:16:20] <nullie> yes
[14:16:26] <nullie> e.g. aptana
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[14:20:22] <Kezza491> where can i find that?
[14:22:05] <rcjsuen> Kezza491: Searching would've found you > aptana.com
[14:22:23] <Kezza491> and it has.... :)
[14:24:00] <Kezza491> this seems like a eclipse replacement...
[14:24:13] <al-_-Gir> jsecalipse doesnt work but its have been loaded , i found the options oof it in pref ... someone know how to use it ?
[14:24:26] <rcjsuen> Kezza491: An Eclipse replacement, in my opinion, would be an alternate RCP framework.
[14:24:55] <Kezza491> So dose this work inside eclipse like alot of programs or is it seprate?
[14:25:21] <rcjsuen> I think they have a plug-in download available.
[14:25:43] <Kezza491> Ahh k
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[15:01:06] <durre> is it possible to connect a file to the stack trace console? I have a big log file that gets updated all the time and its a bit of a hassle to copy paste the stack traces all the time
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[16:37:45] <oR> hey
[16:38:20] <oR> i got the error on eclipse (hs_err_pid)
[16:38:25] <oR> what i need to do
[16:38:26] <oR> ?
[16:38:44] <oR> how can i get a sulotion?
[16:38:50] <paulweb515> oR: if you pastebin it, we'll have a quick look
[16:38:52] <paulweb515> ~pastebin
[16:38:53] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[16:39:12] <oR> kk
[16:40:38] <oR> http://rafb.net/p/I81GEM17.html
[16:42:18] <paulweb515> oR: what were you doing?  just starting up eclipse?
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[16:42:35] <paulweb515> or were you using eclipse to run your java application?
[16:42:46] <oR> only starting up
[16:42:59] <paulweb515> what version of eclipse?  Are you on vista?
[16:43:07] <oR> xp
[16:43:22] <oR> version it 3.3.1.1
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[16:44:37] <paulweb515> oR: there's nothing in that stack trace that indicates eclipse (it was in standard JCL library calls).  Try running with the latest 1.5.0 JVM from sun
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[16:46:22] <oR> i download it fron www.java.com
[16:46:34] <oR> what the sun site?
[16:46:58] <oR> mabye the JVM isnt good
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[16:48:52] <oR> sun.com?
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[16:49:49] <paulweb515> oR: http://java.sun.com has the sun JVMs (you have a Sun 1.6 JVM, try the 1.5 version)
[16:50:55] <oR> ah
[16:51:00] <oR> 10x!
[16:56:19] <Erik1> org.eclipse core.resources: what is the update site for this  ?
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[17:12:08] <franl> I run Eclipse on multiple machines that share my home directory via NFS.  I'm worried that different Eclipses will try to store state into ~/.eclipse and corrupt it (or break each other somehow).  Is this a real problem?
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[17:22:01] <oR> i am not found the install of jvm 1.5
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[17:22:10] <oR> who can help me?
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[17:24:57] <jeremyw> Have any of you ran into a situation where code completion for Jetty doesn't work properly?  Eclipse tells me a method signature isn't there but if I open the source code for the jetty jar, the method is there.  Even Ant compiles my app fine even though Eclipse complains.
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[17:26:27] <mikearthur> does this chanel cater to eclipse-cdt also?
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[17:28:00] <mikearthur> can anyone tell me how to do remote debugging with the europa cdt?
[17:29:28] <CesarSzondi> Is it possible to transmogrify an existing eclipse project that was set up as a j2ee project into the setup of a "Dynamic web" project?
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[17:43:04] <rcjsuen> Erik1: most Eclipse downloads people  will have that plug-in alrdy
[17:43:25] <rcjsuen> franl: Eclipse doesn't put anything in .eclipse.
[17:43:33] <rcjsuen> franl: Maybe a distro-packaged Eclipse does. you'd have to ask them
[17:45:07] <franl> rcjsuen, well, ~/.eclipse gets created when I run the Eclipse+CDT package I downloaded from eclipse.org.  Is it CDT that's doing that?
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[17:45:34] <rcjsuen> franl: Maybe, I don't use that package.
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[17:46:47] <rcjsuen> oR: http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index_jdk5.jsp
[17:46:49] <franl> rcjsuen, ok.  Thanks anyway.
[17:47:21] <oR> paulweb515 10x
[17:47:31] <oR> rcjsuen tnx 2
[17:48:23] <oR> what the diffrent between JDK to JVM
[17:48:23] <oR> ?
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[17:51:01] <rcjsuen> oR: Don't think you really need to know, Wikipedia and Google will explain it quite nicely.
[17:51:12] <rcjsuen> unless you're a java developer
[17:51:14] <rcjsuen> then yes, that would be nice to know
[17:51:41] <oR> ah
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[17:57:41] <Fuzzybunn> hello everyone
[17:58:19] <rcjsuen> hi
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[18:01:53] <Fuzzybunn> Im running into difficulties loading Eclipse, when I try to launch the program(im using WinXP Pro) I get a huge error message showing me a whole bunch of the different paths eclipse is using and then if I change the VM location to change to where I have Java 6 installed it loads but how do I get eclipse to retain the VM location as the default?
[18:02:09] <rcjsuen> ~tell Fuzzybunn about eclipse.ini
[18:02:10] <KOS-MOS> Fuzzybunn: Want to set startup flags for eclipse, like -vm, -vmargs, or -consolelog? Edit your eclipse.ini file. - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse.ini - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_run_Eclipse%3F#eclipse.ini
[18:02:13] <rcjsuen> ~tell Fuzzybunn about vm
[18:02:14] <KOS-MOS> Fuzzybunn: To learn more about the Eclipse launcher / binary, see - http://www.eclipse.org/swt/launcher.html - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_Launcher - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/misc/launcher.html
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[18:04:24] <KA> does anoyone know a good open source jsp to pdf converter?
[18:04:49] <rcjsuen> KA: Not me, but you might also want to try ##java.
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[18:06:27] <er4z0r> hi
[18:06:41] <rcjsuen> hi
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[18:07:08] <yi> hi, where can I get the testing and profiling plugin for eclipse 3.3?
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[18:07:16] <yi> i did not find it in the 'europa discovery' site
[18:07:58] <rcjsuen> hm, that's odd
[18:08:23] <yi> i tried downloading it from the test & performance tools platform site
[18:08:35] <er4z0r> will there be any tools supporting the creation of OSGi Bundles with Declarative Services in the near future?
[18:08:43] <yi> but when i tried to profile my application it gave some error about not being able to connect to the agent process
[18:08:52] <rcjsuen> er4z0r: zx|work might know
[18:09:30] <zx|work> Spring DM (Spring OSGi) is being favored over DS right now
[18:09:47] <zx|work> There's no tooilng for DS as far as I know
[18:11:42] <yi> rcjsuen: any ideas?
[18:12:01] <rcjsuen> yi: nope
[18:13:32] <er4z0r> zx|work: ah ok. I'll have a look into that. Do you have any good links at hand?
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[18:15:41] <er4z0r> zx|work:  Why is Spring DM favoured?
[18:16:29] <zx|work> er4z0r: because that's what a lot of people are working on and some people consider it more flexible
[18:16:43] <zx|work> er4z0r: it wasn't til recently that there was a good free DS implementation available
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[18:17:48] <er4z0r> zx|work: right, Eclipse's is still "work in progress"
[18:18:07] <er4z0r> haven't looked into Felix or KnopflerFish
[18:20:26] <zx|work> Equinox tends to be ahead of the other frameworks since it is the reference impl
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[18:24:32] <nullie> hello, which distributed VCS have good integration with eclipse?
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[18:32:22] <rcjsuen> ~tell d_a_carver about 217803
[18:32:24] <KOS-MOS> d_a_carver: See bug 217803 - Frequent crashing under Ubuntu 7.1 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=217803
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[18:37:59] <yi> nullie: i think there is a mercurial plugin that works well
[18:38:13] <yi> although to be honest i still use it from the command line
[18:38:31] <nullie> mercurial has critical bug :-\
[18:38:36] <nullie> commit doesn't work
[18:38:48] <yi> wait, the plugin or mercurial itself?
[18:39:09] <nullie> plugin
[18:40:02] <rcjsuen> one would expect something so critical to be fixed ;p
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[18:40:30] <nullie> maybe bug only appears in my environment
[18:40:31] <nullie> I've filed it
[18:41:11] <nullie> maybe it's time to learn Java
[18:41:56] <Erik1> where do I get org.eclipse.core.resources ? Subversive needs them
[18:41:58] <yi> i thought most eclipse users were java users
[18:42:26] <rcjsuen> Erik1: You should already have it.
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[18:42:36] <rcjsuen> yi: Well, there are a lot of plug-ins for Eclipse.
[18:42:51] <nullie> yi, I'm python developer in search of IDE :)
[18:42:55] <rcjsuen> C/C++, Ruby, Python, PHP, Perl, etc. etc.
[18:42:57] <Erik1> rcjsuen: well...trying the subv. install give me the error....
[18:43:02] <yi> nullie: i'm also primarily a python developer
[18:43:07] <yi> i use textmate which is great
[18:43:08] <rcjsuen> Erik1: screenshot
[18:43:25] <nullie> I'm not on mac
[18:43:36] <yi> rcjsuen: right but there are probably better tools for those languages than eclipse
[18:43:50] <nullie> and somehow I don't feel good in linux environments
[18:43:52] <rcjsuen> yi: Maybe, I don't know.
[18:44:07] <yi> nullie: this might sound silly, but have you tried vim or emacs?
[18:44:21] <nullie> yi, vim is buggy on windows
[18:44:22] <Erik1> rcjsuen: 'SVN Team provider(1.19.02) requires plugin 'org.eclipse.core resources'
[18:44:26] <yi> people have put a lot of effort of making developing python a good experience on them
[18:44:37] <yi> nullie: oh...sorry I haven't used windows in years =(
[18:44:48] <rcjsuen> Erik1: where did you get Eclipse
[18:44:58] <Erik1> eclipse site
[18:45:03] <Erik1> its pdt
[18:45:07] <rcjsuen> Erik1: what did you dowlnoad
[18:45:08] <Erik1> btw
[18:45:35] <rcjsuen> PDT would have core.resources
[18:45:38] <rcjsuen> if it didn't, i twouldn't start
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[18:45:59] <shiva> how do I get a word from editor where my cursor is standing on? I need to compute context information based on that word.
[18:46:08] <Erik1> rcjsuen: still....
[18:46:12] <shiva> is there anything in IDocument?
[18:46:14] <rcjsuen> shiva: Eh?
[18:46:37] <rcjsuen> No
[18:46:43] <rcjsuen> shiva: IDocument doesn't have any concept of a text cursor
[18:46:55] <rcjsuen> Erik1: try Subclipse, or fil ea bug
[18:46:56] <shiva> I know I can use StyledText but just don't know how to get that from an Editor?
[18:47:04] <rcjsuen> ~tell shiva about dev-faq
[18:47:05] <KOS-MOS> shiva: Writing Eclipse plug-ins / RCP apps and don't know where to turn? See these FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Plug-in_Development_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/RCP_FAQ / Or look at EclipseCon talks/tutorials - http://www.eclipsecon.org/
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[18:58:42] <nitind> shiva: The editor's selection should be an ITextSelection.  But if you're triggered from the text viewer's methods for showing context information, it will give you an offset.
[18:59:17] <shiva> nitind: and KOS-MOS thanks, looking into it.
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[19:01:08] <rcjsuen> shiva: should be possible to get the ITextSelection if you go from the IEditorPart to its selection provider
[19:01:52] <shiva> I am not sure how I will go about that. Basically I want to have SourceViewer like java.
[19:02:19] <shiva> And have different editors and views to participate in providing source infrastructure.
[19:02:25] <rcjsuen> Erik1: eclipse/plugins, do you see a o.e.core.resources jar file?
[19:02:42] <rcjsuen> well, then you're implementing your own editor
[19:03:26] <Erik1> rcjsuen: look at pastebin.com/d457b506e  , line 157: seems the core is there...but nevertheless, installation of subversive complains about it not being there....Maybe a version-issue ?
[19:03:29] <nitind> shiva: The question is how is the showing of the context information triggered.
[19:03:53] <nitind> shiva: If you're going through normal routes, your processor will have its offset.
[19:04:14] <shiva> I am open to suggestions
[19:04:28] <rcjsuen> Erik1: potentially
[19:04:43] <nitind> shiva: Have you looked over your source viewer configuration?
[19:04:54] <Erik1> rcjsuen: and in plugins it is there too....
[19:06:02] <rcjsuen> shiva: Perhaps the question is, what are you trying to do
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[19:06:16] <rcjsuen> namely, what nitind said, what is triggering this
[19:06:22] <shiva> yeah and I don't have much code in it. Just hyperlink detector and and getPresenetationConsiler
[19:07:31] <shiva> Ok, so view like package explorer has elements(function names) and those elemnts has source attached to it. Same elements are used in the editor to edit the source code.
[19:08:32] <shiva> As user selects the element in the view or cursor is on those function name in the source editor it, the Display view will show implementation of those elements.
[19:09:19] <rcjsuen> So this is similar to hovering over a method and seeing its javadoc I guess?
[19:09:35] <Erik1> is there a must-have list of update sites somewhere ?
[19:10:15] <shiva> close enough
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[19:12:04] <rcjsuen> Erik1: not really
[19:12:23] <Erik1> ok
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[19:16:44] <yassine> hi everyone when i try to create a webservice based on my class i get the class proposed for selection but when i submit apply i get"... The class "...MyCkass" cannot be loaded via project "WebServiceProject".
[19:16:50] <yassine> any suggestion
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[19:21:29] <luca1> Hi, I have a question regarding plugin development. I have added an action to the global toolbar as a toggle button.  I would like the toggle button to be on/off depending on a stored property.  Does anyone have a suggestion for how to do this?
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[19:22:44] <paulweb515> luca1: did you add it using your application action bar advisor?
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[19:23:37] <luca1> I don't believe so.  I've created an actionSet in my plugin.xml and tried some other approaches.
[19:28:19] <paulweb515> luca1: oh, so you've created an actionSet, not written code in your ActionBarAdvisor
[19:28:54] <luca1> Yes, that's correct. I wasn't aware of the ActionBarAdvisor.  It looks promising though.  I'll investigate it and see what I can do. Thanks for the pointer!
[19:29:07] <paulweb515> luca1: if your action is a checked action, then you can call action.setChecked(true/false) from your IWorkbenchWindowActionDelegate
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[19:29:32] <paulweb515> luca1: your IWWAD has a selectionChanged(*) method, that's a good time to update your checked state
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[19:30:05] <itay> Hi, does any have any experience with ant and javac tasks?
[19:31:02] <rcjsuen> ~tell itay about ask
[19:31:03] <KOS-MOS> itay: If you have a question, just ask, don't ask if you can ask a question.
[19:31:12] <itay> cool.
[19:31:24] <itay> okie, so here goes
[19:32:04] <luca1> paul: Does the IWWAD provide a mechanism for setting the initial state (on workbench load/window creation) or can the ActionBarAdvisor handle that?
[19:33:01] <paulweb515> luca1: if you also implement IActionDelegate2 you'll get a crack at setting your initial state ... but that's only after the delegate is created, I'm not sure what happens between starting your app and activating your plugin
[19:33:30] <itay> I would like a javac task (running under ant) to continue compiling files found in the source dir, although some of them have failed. The closest thing i've found is "failonerror=false" but that just referes to the entire task's exit code - the remaining files in the javac task are not compiled
[19:33:51] <itay> is there a way to do it?
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[19:35:15] <paulweb515> itay: isn't there an #ant channel? ... that's really an ant question
[19:35:17] <luca1> paul: Okay. This looks like a good start. Thanks!
[19:36:03] <rcjsuen> itay: or try ##java
[19:36:04] <itay> not that i know of...
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[19:36:06] <flavious> Hi
[19:36:11] <rcjsuen> flavious: Hi
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[19:37:07] <uniqe-nick-11a> i had to register (sorry)
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[19:37:32] <flavious> I'm trying to add svn support to my eclipse installation, as described here: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-ecl-subversion/ but I don't have the "CDT" (C development tools I suppose) mirror listed there. How could I add it?
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[19:39:28] <flavious> oh sorry, it's described there
[19:40:10] <Honk> wtf.. my eclipse is crashing the vm while compiling classes
[19:40:56] <tharb> hi again, i still have this property update problem. i have a DiagramAction and i need to update the properties view if the action is executed, or i need to force the application to rerun the IFilter that is connected to my properties tab, any idea how to do that ?
[19:41:11] <Honk> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x062565bc, pid=25996, tid=1879104400
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[19:41:12] <Honk> :|
[19:41:57] <paulweb515> tharb: where did you contribute DiagramAction?
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[19:43:01] <tharb> where ? in the plugin.xml
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[19:45:32] <flavious> it's not working, the server returns 404
[19:45:58] <tharb> so i have a plugin.xml with the two contribution extensions, one is a contributionItemExtension and the other one is a propertycontributor
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[19:47:11] <paulweb515> tharb: contributionItemExtension?  Is that a common navigator framework thingy?
[19:47:44] <tharb> oh i mean contributionItemProvider ;)
[19:48:49] <flavious> why does eclipse not show subversion in the install manager and how to make the subversion extension be available for installation?
[19:49:07] <flavious> it's actually here: http://subclipse.tigris.org/
[19:49:16] <rcjsuen> flavious: you to add x the plug-in's update site
[19:49:22] <rcjsuen> add the, rather
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[19:49:55] <flavious> rcjsuen "you to add", what? :)
[19:50:29] <rcjsuen> you need to
[19:51:07] <flavious> so what do I have to enter there, http://subclipse.tigris.org/x/ ?
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[19:51:31] <paulweb515> tharb: same question ... is that CNF?
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[19:51:36] <rcjsuen> flavious: no
[19:51:45] <rcjsuen> flavious: look at Subclipse's website
[19:51:48] <rcjsuen> it should be explained there
[19:52:11] <plexq> how do I make one project use the code from another project?
[19:52:33] <tharb> paulweb515 : ah not common, its all gmf stuff
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[19:53:01] <paulweb515> plexq: Under project properties of the depending project, you can add a project dependency under Java Build Path
[19:53:08] <rcjsuen> plexq: assuming you're coding in Java
[19:53:14] <plexq> heh - yes I am
[19:53:30] <flavious> rcjsuen and what if a new version appears? the current is 1_2_x. Is eclipse designed such as to automatically update from (just an example) 1.2.99 to 1.4.0 ?
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[19:54:26] <plexq> rcjsuen awesome thanks!
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[19:54:37] <rcjsuen> plexq: thank paulweb515
[19:54:46] <plexq> oops
[19:54:47] <rcjsuen> flavious: if you set your settings that way, i think so
[19:54:53] <plexq> paulweb515: thanks!
[19:55:04] <plexq> Eclipse is about the coolest damn tool ever
[19:55:07] <flavious> thanks rcjsuen
[19:55:21] <flavious> yeah, I'm impressed too
[19:55:34] <plexq> I have projects with C++/Python and Java, and Eclipse can deal with it all
[19:55:53] <flavious> finally unifying php,c,c++, team integration and just about everything in one place. no more multiple IDEs
[19:56:28] <flavious> I wonder if it can .... btw, is there any intellisense plugin ?
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[19:57:52] <tromey> for java it is part of the jdt.  should be for c/c++ too (part of the cdt that is)
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[19:57:55] <tromey> dunno about php
[19:57:55] <flavious> is there any (known) programming language that eclipse does not support ? :)
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[19:58:05] <tromey> hahaha, sure
[19:58:11] <tromey> there are more languages than programmers after all :)
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[19:59:13] <rcjsuen> tromey: zing
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[20:02:49] <luca1> Paulweb: Paul, thanks again for helping with my toolbar actions. I'm looking at using the ActionBarAdvisor, but all references I see are with respect to RCP devleopment. It's not clear to me how to register an ActionbarAdvisor defined in my plugin to the general Eclispe workbench. Do you have any pointers for this? The API documentation is unhelpful.
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[20:05:36] <martaaa> hi, im using eclipse 3.3,  ok, the real problem is that i want to run some strutsTests, i have an application using struts that is running, the problem is run the tests...
[20:05:36] <martaaa> <pfn> you still are not explaining your problem
[20:05:36] <martaaa> <martaaa> hum, well, I made a java class that extends MockStrutsTestCase
[20:05:36] <martaaa> <martaaa> and when i tried to run it
[20:05:36] <martaaa> <martaaa> appears a problem "the input type of the launch configuration doesnt exists"
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[20:05:52] <multi_io> ~permgen
[20:05:53] <KOS-MOS> Having permgen problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
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[20:08:06] <Honk> is there any way to make eclipse usable with a dark background without editing every single color myself?
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[20:11:12] <martaaa> hi, im using eclipse 3.3, i want to run some strutsTests, i have an application using struts that is running, the problem is run the tests...I made a java class that extends MockStrutsTestCase and when i tried to run it appears a problem "the input type of the launch configuration doesnt exists"
[20:11:56] <multi_io> the -XX:PermSize option does not appear in my java -X output
[20:12:01] <multi_io> is that normal?
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[20:13:36] <Windcape> evening , how do I map a shortcut key to run my current PROJECT, not FILE ?
[20:13:53] <multi_io> is there a way to list the -XX options?
[20:14:38] <rcjsuen> Windcape: Project?
[20:14:53] <rcjsuen> there could be 0...N binaries / configs in a project
[20:15:04] <multi_io> (Sun JVM)
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[20:15:26] <Windcape> rcjsuen I only got 1 main method. I just don't want to open / tab over to the main method each time I want to test
[20:16:21] <rcjsuen> Windcape: change your launch config settings
[20:16:34] <rcjsuen> to run the last launched app
[20:16:48] <Honk> multi_io: i dont think so.. check the manual :P
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[20:17:33] <multi_io> http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_increase_the_permgen_size_available_to_Eclipse%3F  gives the impression that -X should list them
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[20:18:16] <atpa8a> hello
[20:18:30] <atpa8a> what does this error mean? "No IModelProvider exists for virtual component ..."
[20:18:33] <multi_io> is it normal btw that the "eclipse" binary doesn't run the JVM (java) as a subprocess, but (apparently) as a shared library?
[20:20:47] <Windcape> rcjsuen seems to work, thanks.
[20:21:09] <Windcape> another question, how do you move between tabs in eclipse ? the normal ctrl+tab which is standard in like.. all other editors on the planet, does not work
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[20:22:10] <atpa8a> ctrl+pgup/pgdown
[20:22:51] <Windcape> hmm? so that annoying box showing what editor I'm moving to IS nessary?
[20:25:25] <atpa8a> which box?
[20:25:43] <atpa8a> i don't get no box
[20:26:00] <atpa8a> it just switches between tabs
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[20:27:32] <atpa8a> hmm
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[20:28:08] <atpa8a> strange situation... i've an EJB project attached to an EAR project
[20:28:59] <atpa8a> now... i have two jars that, if i list them on the build path, allow me to build the workspace
[20:29:26] <atpa8a> if i list them on the EJB project's build path that is
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[20:29:54] <elg> is there any way to redirect stdin from a file?
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[20:31:25] <atpa8a> if i list them on the EAR project's "J2EE module dependencies", i get an error when i try to access the "J2EE module dependeincies" of the EJB project and the exception in the log saying: No IModelProvider exists for virtual component ...
[20:31:34] <atpa8a> what's the problem here?
[20:32:03] <atpa8a> elg: you can try to find a plugin... eclipse tail or something like that
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[20:34:59] <to_> hi, is it possible to save a "session" in eclipse?
[20:35:15] <to_> (I mean all the opened files)
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[20:53:10] <paulweb515> to_: you mean save all of the dirty files at once?
[20:53:38] <to_> paulweb515, no, just save the session to switch to another project, and retreive them tomorrow
[20:54:38] <paulweb515> to_: I don't think so ... eclipse will remember what editors are open when you shut it down, but not if you close them (AFAIK)
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[20:57:31] <atpa8a> wtf does this error mean? "No IModelProvider exists for virtual component ..."
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[21:11:59] <rdw> hello, how do i install PHP into eclipse on kubuntu?
[21:12:06] <rcjsuen> ~linux-install
[21:12:07] <KOS-MOS> Trying to install Eclipse on Linux? http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_install_Eclipse_on_Linux.3F
[21:12:08] <rcjsuen> ~pdt-install
[21:12:09] <KOS-MOS> Trying to install PDT? See http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/Installation
[21:12:14] <rcjsuen> Or you can try phpeclipse
[21:12:44] <rdw> apt-cache search eclipse|grep -i php
[21:12:44] <rdw> returns nuthin
[21:13:10] <rcjsuen> rdw: Then a) request that the Ubuntu package maintainers create packages for PDT and/or PHPEclipse, or b) see the links above.
[21:13:18] <rdw> will do
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[21:13:58] <rdw> i don't think they would listen to me as they are big idiots. kubuntu lacks more packages of important software
[21:14:12] <rcjsuen> *shrugs* I use Gentoo
[21:15:11] <rdw> well, my other problem is that i got amd64
[21:15:32] <rdw> amd rulez but developers obviously don't give a *hit
[21:16:19] <rcjsuen> There are 64-bit Linux builds for Eclipse.
[21:18:34] <rdw> i can't seem to find 'em
[21:19:31] <rcjsuen> ~sdk-downloads
[21:19:32] <KOS-MOS> Looking for different versions and/or platforms for the Eclipse SDK or any of the base Eclipse bundles? See http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
[21:19:33] <rcjsuen> I see them
[21:19:41] <rcjsuen> click 3.3.1.1
[21:19:46] <rcjsuen> scroll down slightly
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[21:19:50] <rcjsuen>
[21:19:51] <rcjsuen> eclipse-SDK-3.3.1.1-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
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[21:20:23] <rcjsuen> If you want packages, they're at http://www.eclipse.org/epp/download.php
[21:20:37] <rcjsuen> note, package != .deb or .rpm or whatever
[21:20:43] <rdw> oh
[21:21:16] <rcjsuen> At least, not in this context, that is not what I am referring to when I say 'package'.
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[21:23:27] <rdw> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.3.1.1-200710231652/download.php?dropFile=eclipse-SDK-3.3.1.1-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz -so this one should do?
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[21:23:40] <Zerone> ello :)
[21:23:47] <rdw> for php, c++ and java alltogether?
[21:24:16] <rcjsuen> rdw: No, that doesn't include php and c/c++
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[21:24:33] <rcjsuen> Though, there is nothing at eclipse.org that has all three anyway.
[21:24:46] <Zerone> ello rcjsuen
[21:24:48] <rdw> ok i need php only. i use other stuff for c++
[21:24:58] <rcjsuen> Zerone: Hi
[21:25:23] <rcjsuen> rdw: Then just do whatever the wiki page said
[21:25:51] <atpa8a> hmm
[21:26:04] <atpa8a> any WTP developers here?
[21:26:12] <rcjsuen> atpa8a: Taking a poll?
[21:26:36] <atpa8a> no
[21:26:43] <atpa8a> trying to understand an error
[21:27:06] <rcjsuen> Describing the error and the steps necessary to reproduce said error would be a good start.
[21:27:09] <atpa8a> No IModelProvider exists for virtual component ...
[21:27:13] <rcjsuen> Or if you think it's a bug, file a bug.
[21:27:29] <atpa8a> rcjsuen: trying to figure out if it is a bug
[21:28:34] <atpa8a> that happens when i add a jar to an EAR project and then try to navigate to "J2EE Module Dependencies" in the EJB project
[21:29:01] <atpa8a> it doesn't happen when i list the jar straight in EJB project's build path
[21:30:37] <atpa8a> any idea how i can diagnose this?
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[21:31:41] <rcjsuen> ~logs
[21:31:42] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[21:32:16] <atpa8a> that error message i get from the logs
[21:32:31] <rcjsuen> atpa8a: you should check bugzilla
[21:32:43] <rcjsuen> maybe it's a bug, maybe it's not, either way, someone might've filed it alreay
[21:33:30] <atpa8a> hmm
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[21:37:40] <rdw> PDT Feature (1.0.2.v20080102-79-7GE7QYGHNGPGY) requires feature "org.eclipse.wst (2.0.0)", or compatible.
[21:38:08] <rcjsuen> rdw: Did you click the 'Select Required' button?
[21:39:45] <rdw> yep, i tried
[21:40:07] <rcjsuen> did you uh
[21:40:19] <rcjsuen> rdw: Did you select the Europa Discovery site?
[21:41:22] <rdw> i got callisto discovery site,eclipse callisto releases,eclipse tools pdt, and eclipse project updates
[21:41:48] <rcjsuen> rdw: what's the name of the tarball you downloaded?
[21:41:50] <rcjsuen> do you stlil have it/
[21:41:53] <rcjsuen> rdw: How did you install it?
[21:42:05] <rdw> i installed a kubuntu package
[21:42:12] <rdw> from a repository
[21:42:13] <rcjsuen> oh, right
[21:42:18] <rcjsuen> did you read the link?
[21:42:30] <rcjsuen> "If installing on Linux, you can look for a package from your distro maintainter/repositories, but this is not supported by eclipse.org. If you encounter problems with such a bundle, please contact your distro maintainer."
[21:42:40] <rcjsuen> in any case, your package is eclipse 3.2.x
[21:42:47] <rcjsuen> and you're trying to install pdt 1.0, which needs 3.3.x
[21:42:55] <rdw> oh
[21:43:04] <rcjsuen> tihs goes back to what i siad earlier
[21:43:13] <rcjsuen> want to use their packages? sure, but let them know if they have problems
[21:43:13] <rdw> damn. i'm stuck
[21:43:21] <rcjsuen> or use the binaries from eclipse.org
[21:43:26] <rdw> i will
[21:43:42] <rcjsuen> rdw: Don't mean to sound rude, but I hope you understand.
[21:44:08] <rdw> i will use the binaries but i am afraid pdt-all-in-one-R20080103-linux-gtk.tar.gz isn't for amd64 !
[21:44:16] <rcjsuen> rdw: it isn't
[21:44:23] <njbartlett> Damn, archive downloads are sloooow
[21:44:25] <rcjsuen> that, is also covered, in the wiki page
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[21:46:11] <al-_-Gir> i have eclipse ptd with jseclipse , and when i open .js file i cant write simply cant when i type something nothing happen someone know about this and how to solve?
[21:46:30] <_elemental> is there a web browser plugin for eclipse so I can view web pages from within the ide?
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[21:47:06] <rdw> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.3.1.1-200710231652/eclipse-SDK-3.3.1.1-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz that should work, right?
[21:47:12] <rcjsuen> _elemental: Window > Show View > Other > Internal Web Browser
[21:47:13] <rcjsuen> rdw: should
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[21:47:36] <rdw> cool, thanks a lot dude
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[21:49:05] <_elemental> rcjsuen is it normal that I can't interact with the page in the internal browser?
[21:49:18] <_elemental> I can't enter text into text fields
[21:49:28] <_elemental> scratch that I'm a moron
[21:50:26] <rcjsuen> _elemental: i can type
[21:50:28] <rcjsuen> oh, okay
[21:50:54] <_elemental> I can type, it just wasn't showing me the cursor
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[21:55:13] <al-_-Gir> someone ?
[21:56:32] <rcjsuen> ~tell al-_-Gir about info
[21:56:33] <KOS-MOS> al-_-Gir: Please state a) your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), b) operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), c) the Java runtime environment used to run Eclipse (if you did not check against your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' is not reliable) used to run Eclipse, d) your Eclipse version, and e) where did you download Eclipse from.
[21:56:34] <rcjsuen> ~tell al-_-Gir about logs
[21:56:34] <KOS-MOS> al-_-Gir: Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[21:56:43] <linxeh> al-_-Gir: did you check the permissions on the file? the logs? etc?
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[21:58:55] <al-_-Gir> linxeh , permission is ok but in "other" i dont have PDE Runtime
[21:59:38] <al-_-Gir> i have the newest eclips ptd , windows xp , and the only plugin i have is jseclipse
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[22:01:41] <linxeh> check the logs
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[22:04:32] <al-_-Gir> how ? i did window > view > other and i have no runtime pde there
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[22:05:34] <rcjsuen> al-_-Gir: Did you read the rest of the message?
[22:05:43] <rcjsuen> al-_-Gir: "Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file."
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[22:06:11] <rcjsuen> Actually, I think we should stop telling people to see that view since it's pretty useless imo, or atl east shift the file forward
[22:06:12] <al-_-Gir> oh sorry
[22:07:00] <al-_-Gir> ok i have the log but i dont really understand it ...
[22:07:04] <rcjsuen> ~set info Looking for your Eclipse logs? Please check your <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - For a graphical view, please see Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[22:07:05] <KOS-MOS> The keyword "info" has been updated with the new reply in my database.
[22:07:12] <rcjsuen> al-_-Gir: ~pastebin it
[22:07:12] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[22:07:52] <al-_-Gir> http://pastebin.com/d59bd0554
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[22:09:23] <rcjsuen> NPE, how horrid
[22:09:30] <rcjsuen> al-_-Gir: Can you consistently reproduce this?
[22:09:41] <rcjsuen> al-_-Gir: actually, i wonder if it's even related
[22:09:47] <rcjsuen> al-_-Gir: rename your log file
[22:09:52] <rcjsuen> al-_-Gir: and then start Eclipse, do stuff
[22:10:07] <rcjsuen> reproduce the error
[22:10:10] <rcjsuen> shutdown eclipse
[22:10:14] <rcjsuen> and see what's in that log file
[22:10:17] <rcjsuen> this ensures a fresh log, per se
[22:11:09] <al-_-Gir> there isnt any error , i just can write into the file ... i dont get any error for this
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[22:11:34] <rcjsuen> dunno
[22:11:36] <rcjsuen> could be a bug
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[22:12:28] <al-_-Gir> its work for someone here (js file editiong ) ?
[22:15:08] <linxeh> al-_-Gir: so you shut down eclipse, deleted that log file, then restarted eclipse ?
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[22:17:14] <krbarnes> al-_-Gir: looks like that would happen if someone called getShell() before calling setControl(). I'm not familiar with the code. You may want to file a bug.
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[22:18:06] <al-_-Gir> linxeh , yes and now i dont have any log file
[22:19:23] <krbarnes> hmm setControl() is called by createControl, so I really don't know what's happening. Someone's overriding createControl() and not calling setControl()?
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[22:30:00] <al-_-Gir> how i can make eclipse use xhtml strict for html and autocomplete ? ( and not what it use by default )
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[22:34:22] <rcjsuen> krbarnes: that's a common problem, yes
[22:34:38] <rcjsuen> but likely irrelevant to al-_-Gir's current problem, but i agree, a bug should be in order
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[22:41:36] <Sukh0i> How can I add objects to Preference Page in 2 Columns? By default it is only 1 column.
[22:42:14] <rcjsuen> Sukh0i: Create your own Composite and set your own Layout to it.
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[22:42:31] <rcjsuen> Composite composite = new Composite(parent, SWT.NONE);
[22:42:42] <rcjsuen> composite.setLayout(new GridLayout(2, /* equal width*/ true));
[22:42:43] <rcjsuen> the end
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[22:44:52] <Sukh0i> Ok, than I will use only PreferencePage :)
[22:44:52] <Sukh0i> thnx
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[23:12:46] <Sukh0i> rcjsuen: It works! Thnx.
[23:12:58] <rcjsuen> Sukh0i: k
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[23:16:11] <erik__> what is the idea behind a working set ? I got a project to gather the relevant source files in.... and then i get this extra 'working set' ....?
[23:16:35] <rcjsuen> erik__: I use them to group my projects.
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[23:16:42] <rcjsuen> And I guess that's about it.
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[23:17:43] <erik__> rcjsuen: ok.. not such a **great** idea then... having not many projects...
[23:17:53] <rcjsuen> erik__: Eh?
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[23:18:21] <erik__> well I don't have that many projects at hand..  so not much to group
[23:18:26] <rcjsuen> oic
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[23:27:09] <ijuma> erik__: yeah, only useful if you have many projects. You can use it to group so that you can perform operations on the whole working set - e.g. search, synchronize to vcs, refresh, clean, etc.
[23:27:46] <erik__> ijuma: ok. thnx
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[23:32:30] <rcjsuen> You can group other non-project things
[23:32:31] <rcjsuen> but i don't
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[23:49:26] <Sukh0i> rcjsuen: Is it possible to put ColorFieldEditor and swt.Text in one row in PreferencePage?
[23:49:59] <rcjsuen> Sukh0i: I dunno how the ColorFieldEditor works
[23:50:14] <Sukh0i> GridLayout(2, true) does not work for ColorFieldEditor
[23:50:17] <Sukh0i> ok
[23:51:04] <rcjsuen> you could look at the source code
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