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[00:02:19] <d_a_carver> how do I lookup the content type for a particular file.
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[00:02:23] <d_a_carver> via api
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[00:16:13] <N-0-X> Hello. I am working with a friend on a little project which involves a graphical interface. He develops under NetBeans and uses a great swing designed "plug-in" integrated to NetBean by default. I was wondering what the Eclipse equivalent is (because I'm an Eclipse user).
[00:19:22] <N-0-X> I've just found  WindowBuilder Pro - SWT/Swing/GWT Designer . I'll see what that looks like.
[00:19:36] <rcjsuen> N-0-X: that's a commercial solution
[00:19:42] <rcjsuen> but supposedly really good
[00:20:06] <N-0-X> There also is a free version, that I've just downloaded.
[00:20:14] <rcjsuen> oh, i thought that's a trial
[00:20:15] <N-0-X> What alternative is there?
[00:20:16] <rcjsuen> i guess not
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[00:20:46] <N-0-X> (yeah, it might be a trial =/)
[00:21:12] <N-0-X> rcjsuen, do you know any other plugin that does the job correctly?
[00:21:18] <rcjsuen> ~gui
[00:21:18] <KOS-MOS> Looking for a Java GUI designer plug-in for Eclipse? Go take a look at the *free* Visual Editor (http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE), Instantiations' *commercial* WindowBuilder (http://www.instantiations.com/windowbuilderpro/), and/or Jigloo (http://www.cloudgarden.com/jigloo/) , which is *free for non-commercial use*.
[00:22:03] <N-0-X> oh, thanks :)
[00:25:14] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: i know there's an icontenttypemanager or provider or whatever
[00:25:19] <rcjsuen> not sure how one gets a hold of the interface tho
[00:25:31] <rcjsuen> What are you trying to id? InputStreams?
[00:25:45] <rcjsuen> cccccccccccc
[00:25:48] <rcjsuen> whoops ;p
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[00:27:39] <N-0-X> bye.
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[00:36:10] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: Yeah, I found a code example.
[00:36:31] <d_a_carver> rcjusen: Platform.getContentTypeManager();
[00:37:41] <d_a_carver> rcjusen: for the XSL Tooling, I need to limit to to the XML Content types for XSLT Processing during the launch.  It was hard coded for xml and xhtml extensions only.
[00:39:56] <rcjsuen> ah
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[00:42:10] <EvilGuru> Is anyone here familiar with PDT?
[00:42:50] <rcjsuen> better of asking the actual question
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[00:44:20] <EvilGuru> I am trying to debug my script using Xdebug, however, when I do and start debugging I immediately get an error about it being unable to require a php file ('Zend/Loader.php')
[00:44:38] <EvilGuru> However, when I do 'php index.php' or invoke through apache (mod_php) it works as expected.
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[01:06:44] <EvilGuru> It seems to be because it is disregarding all of my php.ini files (and I explicitly set one in eclipse) which add /usr/share/php5 to the incldue path
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[01:11:19] <d_a_carver> EvilGuru: You might want to check the PDT newsgroup, there have been several threads lately about XDebug.
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[01:11:48] <EvilGuru> I came across one about it being unable to find the source code, but this one seems to be it not finding the (correct) PHP ini file
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[01:14:10] <EvilGuru> But it is getting late, I should be off
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[01:20:56] <Token-> what's shortcut to auto-comment all selected area?
[01:21:09] <rcjsuen> Token-: Ctrl+/
[01:21:29] <Token-> tks
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[02:08:09] <robinr> is there a plan for changing settings on multiple projects at the same time?
[02:08:51] <robinr> currently them menu entry for project properties are greyed out if I select more than one project
[02:09:49] <rcjsuen> Probably not.
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[05:06:16] <djspark> is anyone aware of problems where form elements such as text boxes do  not display in eclipse 3.3.1.1 under Vista 64bit ?
[05:06:30] <rcjsuen> djspark: Screenshot?
[05:06:37] <djspark> sure one sec
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[05:18:00] <charlls> quick cdt question; before updating, #if 0 ... disabled blocks were grayed out, now i updated the framework and cdt, and it is gone
[05:18:39] <rcjsuen> djspark: Did you get a screenshot?
[05:18:44] <rcjsuen> ~tell charlls about cdt-faq
[05:18:44] <KOS-MOS> charlls: Looking for all of the answers related to CDT, or just most of them?  Check out the mighty CDT-FAQ (http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT/User/FAQ).
[05:19:28] <charlls> thanks
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[05:30:41] <djspark> rcjsuen, here's the problem I described:  http://www.djspark.com/eclipse1.png
[05:30:58] <rcjsuen> djspark: I'll try with a newer build.
[05:31:06] <djspark> it occurs on every form in ecilpse, on certain elements such as text boxes
[05:31:06] <rcjsuen> djspark: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/S-3.4M4-200712131700/index.php
[05:31:59] <djspark> rcjsuen, downloading now
[05:32:22] <djspark> have you ever heard of such a condition? because I've seen it in both the ibm build and the core
[05:32:50] <rcjsuen> djspark: Yes, this is a well-known problem.
[05:33:16] <djspark> Do you know how it would be labeled in bug tracker so I could read up on it?
[05:34:40] <rcjsuen> djspark: It's fixed in the newer builds.
[05:35:41] <rcjsuen> ~204953
[05:35:41] <djspark> ok, thanks
[05:35:42] <KOS-MOS> See bug 204953 - [64] New project wizard does not work on Vista 64 bits - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=204953
[05:35:45] <rcjsuen> and its thousands of duplicates
[05:36:05] <rcjsuen> ~142965
[05:36:06] <djspark> great thanks a lot :-D
[05:36:07] <KOS-MOS> See bug 142965 - [64] Blank splitter dialogs until resized - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=142965
[05:38:48] <djspark> somewhat crazy question... is there a quick method of moving my plugins over to the new install or do they need to be installed again?
[05:48:04] <rcjsuen> djspark: not unless you know which ones which
[05:48:32] <djspark> well I can't get this one to run with my current jre anyways, I'll have to check and see if I got the 64bit or not
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[06:23:04] <djspark> rcjsuen, do you know if the PDT project has a irc room?
[06:26:41] <rcjsuen> djspark: they don't
[06:27:23] <djspark> it appears they do not have a build for the WST 3.0 tht comes in the new eclipse build
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[07:46:10] <nitind> djspark: Seriously?  We're over half way to 3.0 already.
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[07:47:26] <djspark> yeah the only PDT builds that use WST 3.0 are the last 4 nightly builds, and there are no compiled forms of these builds
[07:47:44] <djspark> So I guess PDT is a little behind on these releases
[07:50:02] <djspark> nitind, which I guess means that nobody on vista 64bit can use PDT without getting it from cvs
[08:01:58] <djspark> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=210147 --> the bug report asking when a WST 3 release will be made
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[12:16:19] <_Tango__> hi guys
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[12:57:44] <dergringo> what is the best w3c validator? (xhtml strict + css)
[12:57:58] <dergringo> I mean the best validator plugin
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[14:10:54] <TheIndian> hi
[14:11:35] <TheIndian> i want to map CTRL+E or any other key combination to open the current file in gvim ... any body knows how to achieve it..
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[14:23:44] <paulweb515_> TheIndian: you can map a key to a command in Window>Preferences>General>Keys preference page
[14:24:19] <paulweb515_> TheIndian: you would have to write a command to open the current file in vim ... SWT has a Program#launch(*) object, IIRC
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[15:13:48] <multi_io> it appears that Eclipse here dies about once per day with "java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space" no matter how much memory you give it
[15:18:00] <gsson> multi_io: And it is the MaxPermSize-type memory you give it, and not one of the other kinds?
[15:18:13] <paulweb515_> ~permgen
[15:18:14] <KOS-MOS> Having permgen problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
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[15:20:27] <multi_io> ah, hm I was just setting the -Xmx and -Xms flags in eclipse.ini
[15:20:42] <multi_io> thanks, I'll investigate this PermGen setting
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[17:02:48] <_igel_> hi
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[17:12:03] <paulweb515_> howdy
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[17:14:28] <fabvador> hi, I m developing a eclipse plugin but I have dificulties to find good tutorial fot swt, jFace. Do you know some
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[17:15:54] <paulweb515_> fabvador: there are a number of articles at http://www.eclipse.org/articles/  ... RCP 1 and RCP 2 are good (the same concepts apply to a regular eclipse plugin)
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[17:20:28] <fabvador> thanks again paulweb515_ ;-)
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[17:33:28] <multi_io> hmm, don't TODOs show up in the Problems view?
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[17:35:05] <multi_io> ah, the Tasks view is it...
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[18:11:38] <Snoopotic> hi... im new to eclipse I want to install the Zend-PDT by the eclipse updater... but selecting it I get: "Zend Debugger Feature (5.2.12.v20071210) requires feature "org.eclipse.php_feature (1.0.0)", or later version." what dies this tell me? I thought the Eclipse-updater will look for depencies itself :/
[18:11:57] <Snoopotic> lol not dies / does
[18:12:35] <rcjsuen> it'll look if it knows where to look
[18:13:17] <d_a_carver> Snoopotic: it also depends on how well the pdt guys have their site.xml and dependencies setup.  If they have strict version on plugins that will mess it up as well.
[18:13:55] <linxeh> does Subversive work with existing checked out trees, or do I have to check out projects using its wizards?
[18:14:41] <Snoopotic> hmm same for: PDT Feature (1.0.2.v20080102-79-7GE7QYGHNGPGY) requires feature "org.eclipse.wst (2.0.0)", or compatible. ... if eclipse doesnt know where to look how can I know where to tell eclipse where to look?
[18:16:21] <d_a_carver> Snoopotic: If you are updating PDT, make sure to include the Europa Discovery site in the update list at the same time, and then when it says it needs a required item, hit the select required button.  That will get the required items down as well.
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[18:17:47] <d_a_carver> linxeh: if there are the .svn files availble and you import it into your workspace, it should detect it.  At least I've had the cvs plugins automatically detect those type of projects before.
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[18:20:03] <linxeh> d_a_carver: yeah, I had subclipse doing that, but I thought I'd try out subversive - its not worked so far , but it might be a configuration issue
[18:20:38] <linxeh> subclipse didn't work that great with nested maven2 projects it seemed
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[18:20:49] <Zerone> ello
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[18:44:51] <paulweb515_> Zerone: howdy
[18:45:01] <Zerone> all great :P
[18:45:06] <Zerone> and how about you?
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[18:46:28] <paulweb515_> Zerone: I'm working on a Sunday ... it's a mixed bag :-)
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[18:46:59] <Zerone> ohhh :D
[18:47:10] <Zerone> sometimes i´m also working on a sunday :)
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[18:58:46] <d_a_carver> I wouldn't call this work, more like playfull experimenting.
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[19:31:54] <deeflex> how do I pass arguments when I want to run my program?
[19:31:59] <yassin1> hi everyone, anyone here using eclipse europa on ubuntu 7.10 and java sun jdk 6 and have had issue with eclipse shutting down while working with tomcat + ant ?
[19:33:44] <d_a_carver> deeflex: the launching tab should have a jre tab where you can enter arguments
[19:34:34] <d_a_carver> yassin1: what's the problem, I'm on ubuntu and use tomcat with it.
[19:35:34] <deeflex> d_a_carver: tnx!
[19:36:40] <yassin1> d_a_carver: it started with claiming that my ant build file are not valid build files ( the distro package) and as soon as i start/stop tomcat from the server view eclipse shutdown, so i installed europa since the distro package was not running as i expected now i have the same issue
[19:37:21] <yassin1> now i just changed the amount of MaxPermSize from 256 to 512M and i hope that will be enough
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[19:40:31] <d_a_carver> yassin1: a couple of things.  I don't recommend currently using sun jdk 1.6 with eclipse, too many bugs right now (in both).  It works best with a 1.5 jdk.
[19:41:45] <d_a_carver> yassin1: I'm running with a 1.5 jdk haven't experienced any stopping or starting problems with tomcat 5 or tomcat 6, I'm running tomcat from my home directory though and installed got it from the apache website.
[19:42:21] <d_a_carver> yassin1: 256 meg of permgen should be plenty, I don't think sun runtime supports more than that.
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[19:43:25] <EvilGuru> Where can I find the source code for PDT? I have looked at the download section but can only find binary blobs
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[19:46:25] <d_a_carver> EvilGuru: http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Development_Resources#Getting_Code
[19:46:44] <d_a_carver> EvilGuru: you'll want to go into the Tooling project
[19:46:49] <EvilGuru> d_a_carver: Thank you
[19:47:31] <d_a_carver> EvilGuru: the module name is /cvsroot/tools  I believe
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[19:47:47] <d_a_carver> EvilGuru in there, is the org.eclipse.pdt project
[19:48:40] <EvilGuru> Okay, I have the source!
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[19:49:34] <d_a_carver> EvilGuru: have fun. :)
[19:52:25] <EvilGuru> Will do
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[20:20:54] <joeamined> hi
[20:21:08] <joeamined> is it possible to generate code using eclipse's UML pllugin ?
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[20:26:50] <mohbana_> hey guys where is the eclipse log found in linux
[20:28:03] <d_a_carver> ~log
[20:28:04] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[20:32:18] <mohbana_> i only have version.ini
[20:32:56] <mohbana_> ok found it
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[20:42:11] <Arcalyth> Is it possible to disable a plugin for a specific workspace?
[20:43:47] <Arcalyth> For example, if I have PyDev, and I want to not have it around while I'm in the workspace I use for CDT
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[20:46:53] <mohbana_> what exactly do i look for to see why my previous session of eclipse crashed cause its seems to be happening alot on ubuntu
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[20:49:20] <dmoz_> hi
[20:49:38] <dmoz_> anybody knows what is the difference between Aptana Studio and Eclipse PDT?
[20:50:21] <paulweb515_> ~logs
[20:50:21] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[20:50:26] <paulweb515_> mohbana_: ^^
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[21:00:39] <Halabund> Is there a shorcut to open a new line below in eclipse's editor?
[21:00:46] <Halabund> Like o in vi?
[21:01:35] <rcjsuen> ~keys
[21:01:36] <KOS-MOS> For a list of available key bindings press Ctrl + Shift + L. To configure your key bindings, see Window > Preference > General > Keys. See also http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#What.27s_the_key_for_....3F
[21:02:14] <dominikg> is it just me not getting your question or are you asking for a shortcut to 'return'/'enter' ?
[21:02:57] <Halabund> Thanks KOS-MOS, I'm new to eclipse.  Now let me read through that long list that appeared ...
[21:03:13] <Halabund> dominikg: No, enter only does this if the cursor is at the end of the line
[21:03:42] <dmoz_> anybody knows what is the difference between Aptana Studio and Eclipse PDT?
[21:03:43] <dominikg> ahh, just me then. *doh*
[21:04:02] <Halabund> Got it, it shift-enter :)
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[21:04:35] <rcjsuen> dmoz_: I'm not sure if Aptana does php.
[21:04:49] <dominikg> dmoz_, that are 2 totally different projects. aptana is more like a complete web-ide while pdt has a closer focus on php
[21:05:04] <dmoz_> ok ok, thanks very much
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[21:05:45] <dominikg> aptana added php support lately (havn't tried it, but read that its not en par with pdt jet). But it should be possible to run both in the same eclipse instance. check the aptana forums
[21:05:48] <dmoz_> i thinked that also aptana was for php development
[21:06:04] <dmoz_> ok
[21:06:07] <dmoz_> thanks
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[21:09:32] <dmoz_> i'm not sure which IDE choose, if Eclipse or Komodo-Edit. I want someelse multiplatform and language independient
[21:10:14] <kronos_> hello people
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[21:10:18] <dmoz_> it seems that the best option is a generic Eclipse installation, and add plugins on it
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[21:10:52] <kronos_> do u know computer vision? can eclipse work with it like OpenCV or GPUCV?
[21:11:00] <dmoz_> i want something else because i want to learn only one good IDE, and can use it everywhere
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[21:11:32] <Halabund> ~keys
[21:11:32] <KOS-MOS> For a list of available key bindings press Ctrl + Shift + L. To configure your key bindings, see Window > Preference > General > Keys. See also http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#What.27s_the_key_for_....3F
[21:11:41] <Halabund> Ah, for a moment I thought it was alive ...
[21:11:47] <Halabund> got it now
[21:12:09] <rcjsuen> kronos_: If there's a plug-in
[21:12:59] <kronos_> hmm i'm trying to get from a website that i saw in an article but the site is off =(
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[21:15:49] <kronos_> guys do u know someone who have some knowledge in computer vision that could help me ?
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[21:17:05] <Halabund> Is there a way to set a default mirror for updating/installing components?  It always defaults to Hungary, probably because of my system settings, but I am not in Hungary, so I'd use another site.
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[21:36:28] <mohbana_> is there a certain way to move a method to the end of the file without having to cut and paste?
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[21:38:43] <dmoz_> re
[21:39:37] <dmoz_> If I want to program with C, C++, PHP, HTML, CSS, AJAX I would need "Eclipse CDT", "Eclipse PDT" and Aptana (as a Eclipse plugin)
[21:40:13] <dmoz_> so, what distribution may download first? may be Eclipse Classic?
[21:43:46] <mohbana_> ~pastebin
[21:43:47] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[21:45:22] <mohbana_> if anyone is free could you just take a look at my log and tell me if this is anything serious to worry about, i am just investigating why my eclipse is crashing.  http://pastebin.com/db09396c
[21:47:26] <rcjsuen> dmoz_: that's what people usually start with
[21:47:46] <rcjsuen> mohbana_: could you rename your .log file
[21:47:53] <rcjsuen> mohbana_: start Eclipse, and pastebin that fresh log?
[21:49:04] <dmoz_> rcjsuen thanks for answering. Then, I can install Eclipse Classic and after add CDT, PDT and Aptana "modules" can't it?
[21:49:30] <rcjsuen> Yes, that should be fine.
[21:49:43] <mohbana_> one sec
[21:49:51] <dmoz_> thanks again
[21:50:24] <dmoz_> and sorry to all for my stupity... :|
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[21:53:28] <mohbana_> rcjsuen, you want me to upload my .log file?
[21:54:04] <rcjsuen> mohbana_: pastebin the fresh one, yes
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[21:55:16] <mohbana_> rcjsuen, http://pastebin.com/m59d4be3a
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[21:56:35] <rcjsuen> sounds like memory might be the problem
[21:56:36] <rcjsuen> ~permgen
[21:56:37] <KOS-MOS> Having permgen problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
[21:56:59] <mohbana_> very strange i've got 4gb of ram
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[21:59:07] <rcjsuen> having ram doesn't really matter if it doesn't allocate it to be used
[22:00:06] <mohbana_> rcjsuen, any idea on how i can get this to occur again?
[22:01:10] <rcjsuen> not really, running out of memory is a pretty vague problem
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[22:08:33] <d_a_carver> mohbana_ make sure you aren't using gjc with eclipse and ubuntu.  ~linux-install
[22:08:34] <KOS-MOS> Trying to install Eclipse on Linux? http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_install_Eclipse_on_Linux.3F
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[22:18:23] <joeamined> hi
[22:18:32] <rcjsuen> joeamined: Hi
[22:18:33] <joeamined> can you advice me for a uml plugin in eclipse
[22:18:41] <joeamined> that does good code generation
[22:18:58] <rcjsuen> not me anyway
[22:19:12] <joeamined> okay
[22:19:23] <joeamined> you're using an external tool or no uml at all ?
[22:19:57] <rcjsuen> I don't do UML.
[22:20:00] <joeamined> okay
[22:21:55] <d_a_carver> joeamined: check eclipseplugincentral.com there are several listed there
[22:23:11] <joeamined> ok thank you
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[23:20:01] <mohbana_> d_a_carver, i am using the official sun java sdk 1.6
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[23:24:38] <d_a_carver> mohbana: I don't recommend 1.6, I'd recommend sticking with 1.5.
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[23:39:28] <ekuleshov_> hi
[23:40:02] <ekuleshov_> can someone remind me how to turn off showing dotted lines in swt tree widget?
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[23:53:43] <dmoz_> hi

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