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[00:18:35] <rawblem> rcjsuen:  any idea which argument box to use when trying to set system properties in a launch configuration?
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[00:47:35] <konigsberg> Hello, I am trying to help a colleague who is using a plug-in I helped build. He is getting a classloader error.
[00:47:38] <konigsberg> A class can't be found.
[00:47:45] <konigsberg> I have confirmed that the class exists in the .jar
[00:47:58] <konigsberg> And that the MANIFEST.MF has proper references to include the file.
[00:48:08] <konigsberg> ?
[00:48:16] <konigsberg> "include the file" - by that I mean "export the class"
[00:49:19] <konigsberg> I'm a little confused as to how some of the code in my plug-in can't seem to find this referenced class.
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[00:50:51] <konigsberg> Any thoughts?
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[01:15:17] <cyrus__> how do I set the default system browser within eclipse. Through gnome I have it configured to be swiftfox but eclipse always opens up epihany
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[01:16:51] <cyrus__> anyone?
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[01:19:07] <njbartlett> Wow I've never heard of either of those browsers :)
[01:19:24] <paulweb515_> cyrus__: I'm surprised, when eclipse opens external browsers it usually goes (firefox, mozilla, netscape)
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[01:25:20] <cyrus__> paulweb515 - not for me
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[01:30:37] <paulweb515_> cyrus__: OK, try -  Window>Preferences>General>Web Browser
[01:30:38] <cyrus__> this is strange..I uninstalled epiphany since I don't use it and now eclipse opened up pgadmin
[01:31:08] <paulweb515_> cyrus__: that's ... odd
[01:31:57] <cyrus__> no kidding
[01:33:31] <paulweb515_> cyrus__: can you make modifications on that preference page?
[01:34:01] <cyrus__> i didn't see a section to specify browers
[01:34:43] <cyrus__> the only spot I see it is window -> browsers
[01:35:02] <cyrus__> and from there I can selection the default system browser (which now seems to default to pgadmin) or mozilla
[01:36:08] <paulweb515_> cyrus__: on mine there's a "new" button
[01:36:19] <cyrus__> under window -> browser?
[01:36:35] <paulweb515_> General>Web Browser
[01:37:08] <paulweb515_> i.e. Window>Preferences>General>Web Browser
[01:37:39] <cyrus__> hmmm..I don't have general under preferences
[01:37:40] <paulweb515_> I have the choice of internal or external ... followed by "System Default" or Mozilla in a list
[01:38:18] <paulweb515_> At the side of the list are "New..." "Edit..." Remove and "Search..."
[01:38:39] <cyrus__> i need to figure out how to get the general section under preferences
[01:38:43] <cyrus__> doesn't make much sense
[01:41:57] <cyrus__> any idea why I don't have that
[01:42:13] <cyrus__> I am using 3.3.1.1 version of eclipse
[01:42:14] <cyrus__> on linux
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[01:43:03] <paulweb515_> cyrus__: So Window>Preferences opens up your preference dialog?  What categories are listed in the left hand tree control
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[01:44:35] <cyrus__> just mozilla
[01:44:40] <cyrus__> or sorry
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[01:44:55] <cyrus__> it lists a bunch of them C++/ Java, PHP, Server, Web TOols, etc
[01:44:58] <cyrus__> no General though
[01:45:05] <cyrus__> I have been through all of them and nothing says web browsers
[01:47:37] <paulweb515_> cyrus__: that's strange that your "General" is missing ... anything in your error log?
[01:47:40] <paulweb515_> ~log
[01:47:40] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[01:48:30] <cyrus__> paulweb515 - where is the error log
[01:48:35] <cyrus__> oh..sorry
[01:48:36] <cyrus__> typed to fast
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[02:40:44] <rcjsuen> rawake: VM arguments? -Duser.name=myothername etc
[02:41:04] <rcjsuen> gotz ta jet
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[02:44:14] <rawblem> rawake:  sorry for rcjsuen ;)  he keeps mixing us up
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[03:13:03] <rawake> rawblem: you better be sorrry
[03:13:32] <rawblem> rawake: i am. i sat in fear, trembling of your response for the past hour
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[03:23:19] <rawake> haha
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[03:36:56] <charlls> heyo
[03:37:33] <charlls> question about cdt; how do i change a executable target to a dynamic library target?
[03:40:52] <charlls> i know the compile and linking flags i need, but i don't know where to edit this
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[03:44:30] <charlls> nevermind i find out at the last minute :)
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[03:53:53] <onats> hi, in eclipse, when i replace a folder with a CVS version based on a different branch, then i  add new files to that folder, which branch will it commit to?
[03:59:06] <charlls> i was wondering how to add/import/insert an existing file into a project
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[05:26:54] <nitind> onats: Ever figure it out?
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[05:42:09] <LiquidAir> how can I have newly created files default to unix newline characters in windows?
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[05:49:41] <sahak> hello
[05:50:03] <sahak> I am developing in C++ under eclipse. Is there any C++ documentation available in eclipse?
[05:53:04] <ahriman`wrk> hi, i have one problems with MPI artifacts analysis. i receive message "chosen operation is not currently available". what is the problem with?
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[05:59:30] <robinr> LiquidAir: Window/Preferences -> General/Workspace
[06:01:19] <robinr> sahak: unfortunately there is not much cdt knowledge around here
[06:01:33] <nitind> sahak: You should have some in the built-in Help.
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[06:08:39] <onats> need some help, how can i point the project to look at built classes as references?
[06:09:11] <onats> like i have sources, then it has been built. when i do a Call heirarchy, i get a "Resource is not on build path"
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[07:06:57] <zeeeee> how do i use the Compare Editor? subclipse says there are conflicts, but i never was able to figure out how to use this thing :)
[07:07:16] <zeeeee> i'd like to simply see and resolve the conflicts
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[07:11:53] <bladezor> I updated my Eclipse and now everything I click run it pops up the Run As window, is there any way I can set it to run one of my other configuration automatically without nagging?
[07:12:00] <bladezor> everytime*
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[13:05:19] <evermind> Hi, I hav a question I'm forced using  eclipse-3.2 as IDE and as target environment eclipse-3.3.1.1. My plugin project has a product splash, but my custom splash will not show up -- instead  a new instance of target-environment IDE is being lauched.  If I use the same target environment like the ide it works. forum-post:http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=14042166 -- so any hints? thx
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[13:11:13] <freeman> hi all
[13:11:52] <rcjsuen> freeman: Hi
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[13:13:28] <freeman> where i can download plugin for eclipse?
[13:14:34] <freeman> swt plugin?
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[13:15:02] <rcjsuen> swt plug-in?
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[13:16:10] <freeman> im newbie :)
[13:16:23] <rcjsuen> freeman: What do you mean by swt plug-in?
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[13:18:10] <freeman> the plugin is necessary for creation of the application with use swt?
[13:18:51] <rcjsuen> well, you don't really need any plug-ins, i don't use plug-ins to write my swt code
[13:19:11] <rcjsuen> if you have Eclipse, you already have the SWT libraries, although maybe not the source code for javadoc purposes
[13:22:19] <rcjsuen> ~tell freeman about gui
[13:22:20] <KOS-MOS> freeman: Looking for a Java GUI designer plug-in for Eclipse? Go take a look at the *free* Visual Editor (http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE), Instantiations' *commercial* WindowBuilder (http://www.instantiations.com/windowbuilderpro/), and/or Jigloo (http://www.cloudgarden.com/jigloo/) , which is *free for non-commercial use*.
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[13:25:53] <freeman> i have Eclipse SDK from gentoo portage tree
[13:26:24] <rcjsuen> the SDK already has the SWT libraries
[13:31:20] <freeman> :-/
[13:32:37] <evermind> does anybody has a hint for my problem?
[13:34:14] <rcjsuen> evermind: are you even pointing at the right app id?
[13:34:22] <rcjsuen> if the SDK launches instead of your rcp, then something is off
[13:34:40] <rcjsuen> it's possibly 3.2 is bugged, or 3.3 is bugged, either could be causing this discrepancy
[13:34:43] <rcjsuen> or user error
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[13:38:48] <evermind> rcjsuen: I've checked it with the "rcp mail template" and it still won't work if I switch the target environment
[13:39:07] <rcjsuen> I said check your target app id
[13:39:11] <rcjsuen> as in your eclipse app launch config
[13:41:11] <evermind> rcjsuen: thx, I will look for the id
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[13:46:22] <peter_> what is the ve (visual editor) update site?
[13:47:35] <rcjsuen> ~ve-install
[13:47:35] <KOS-MOS> Trying to install the Visual Editor? See http://wiki.eclipse.org/VE/Installing
[13:48:17] <peter_> thx
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[13:49:35] <volodya> I have have a Map variable, can eclipse show, in the variables view, all keys and values of that map, so that I can further examine them? It (tries to) print the map in the details view, but that actually lacks enough details.
[13:50:25] <rcjsuen> i think you can use the details formatter for that, not sure
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[13:53:53] <evermind> rcjsuen: its correct
[13:54:41] <rcjsuen> evermind: Pookzilla might know what's wrong, although I'm not sure if it's really a splash problem if you're not even launching the right thing.
[13:55:31] <Pookzilla> sorry, what's the issue?
[13:55:42] <rcjsuen> Pookzilla:  <evermind> Hi, I hav a question I'm forced using  eclipse-3.2 as IDE and as target environment eclipse-3.3.1.1. My plugin project has a product splash, but my custom splash will not show up -- instead  a new instance of target-environment IDE is being lauched.  If I use the same target environment like the ide it works. forum-post:http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=14042166 -- so any
[13:55:44] <rcjsuen> hints? thx
[13:58:00] <Pookzilla> hmm.  well, I'm not sure why that would be happening unless you're somehow invoking the old splash native.  i would suggest you put a breakpoint in Workbench.createSplashWrapper
[13:58:15] <rcjsuen> evermind: ^
[13:58:16] <rcjsuen> thanks Kim
[13:58:26] <Pookzilla> and see if the launcher system properties are being set
[14:00:17] <evermind> thx I will look into
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[14:13:42] <paulweb515> evermind: that's a known bug with no fix
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[14:14:31] <paulweb515> evermind: well, in my case the there were 2 launchers launched ... the existing one and one that asked for a workspace
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[14:22:39] <evermind> paulweb515: thx
[14:23:48] <evermind> thx also rcjsuen and Pookzilla for helping
[14:24:25] <Pookzilla> evermind: have you had any luck debugging as I suggested?
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[14:25:10] <paulweb515> evermind: for entertainment purposes only:  discodan had a look at this problem, launching 3.3 target from 3.2 will always be wonky since 3.2 launch configs don't have to correct information to launch 3.3
[14:25:44] <evermind> Pookzilla: I had some problems with the sources to be shown, I'll report later
[14:25:49] <rcjsuen> paulweb515 I figured that as well.
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[14:29:12] <eeos> hi everybody
[14:29:19] <eeos> I have eclipse on ubuntu 7.10
[14:29:45] <eeos> is there a way to activate line wrapping?
[14:30:04] <eeos> I have when the lines of code disappear on the right of the screen ....
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[14:37:28] <rcjsuen> there is no word wrap support out-of-the-box
[14:37:43] <rcjsuen> i just let the formatter handle cases where the code goes off
[14:37:46] <rcjsuen> which is pretty rare
[14:38:30] <eeos> rcjsuen: I have lot of lines off, because we are using very complex sql queries
[14:38:49] <eeos> rcjsuen: is there a plugin I can istall to have line wrap rcjsuen?
[14:39:13] <rcjsuen> eeos: google it
[14:40:57] <rcjsuen> eeos: try Eclipse Colorer or AhtiK's plug-in
[14:41:07] <eeos> rcjsuen: i need something pseudo official and I thought someoe was already using it
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[14:41:20] <eeos> rcjsuen: wait
[14:41:39] <rcjsuen> depends what you mean by official, there is nothing in Eclipse.org
[14:41:49] <eeos> ah! :(
[14:42:01] <eeos> that was the reaso for NOT finding it ....
[14:42:09] <AhtiK> hi eeos!
[14:42:17] <rcjsuen> you could've just googled 'eclipse word wrap'
[14:42:43] <AhtiK> yeah, you can use mine. super-lightweight code. but that means usage is simply a context menuitem "Virtual Word Wrap" or smth.
[14:43:13] <AhtiK> rcjsuen: yeah, I get about 5-10 "eclipse word wrap" search results landing at my page DAILY:D
[14:43:26] <AhtiK> maybe even more..
[14:43:27] <evermind> Pookzilla : Before the breakpoint is reached the new Eclipse-Ide-workspace-launcher is allready shown. When debugging further I found the varible createSplash was found that it was set to false in Workbench.AbstractSplashHandler. So anyway thx for all your help
[14:44:01] <eeos> AhtiK: sorry, I asked here because I hoped to fid something pseud official and already tested by othe user
[14:44:13] <Pookzilla> out of curiosity, what happens if you export the app and run it normally?
[14:44:14] <eeos> AhtiK: I thought my not finding it on eclipse.org
[14:44:20] <eeos> AhtiK: was my fault
[14:45:24] <AhtiK> eeos: my plugin is pseudo official as whoever needs word wrap, is usually using it :)
[14:45:33] <AhtiK> eeos: or Eclipse Colorer etc ;)
[14:46:35] <eeos> AhtiK: thanks a lot!
[14:47:02] <eeos> AhtiK: is it on your web page?
[14:47:10] <eeos> AhtiK: what is Eclipse Colourer?
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[14:48:00] <rcjsuen> eeos: Google?
[14:49:02] <eeos> rcjsuen: this google thing is rather upsetting .... you canot talk about anything without someone just saying google it ....
[14:49:45] <rcjsuen> eeos: well, I say it because the webpage would tell you more than I could tell you
[14:49:50] <rcjsuen> eeos: http://colorer.sourceforge.net/eclipsecolorer/
[14:50:15] <rcjsuen> eeos: http://ahtik.com/blog/2006/06/18/first-alpha-of-eclipse-word-wrap-released/
[14:50:27] <eeos> rcjsuen: thanks!
[14:50:56] <eeos> rcjsuen: ooops I had already read that and also bookmarked it!
[14:51:02] <eeos> rcjsuen: the second one .....
[14:51:07] <AhtiK> eeos: check http://ahtik.com/blog/eclipse-word-wrap/ for screenshot and update site
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[14:51:41] <rcjsuen> eeos: well, as you would imagine, AhtiK is the author of ahtik.com
[14:51:49] <rcjsuen> eeos: so yes, it is "on his web page"
[14:53:07] <eeos> I am sorry I am working from home on a 14K dialup .... it makes me extremely frustrated to keep "searchengining" .... the irc also slows everything down .... sorr!
[14:53:15] <rcjsuen> I think we need a macro for this.
[14:53:26] * eeos complimenting BT again for thir wonderful service :)
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[14:59:50] <rcjsuen> ~add ww Looking for word wrap support in Eclipse text editors? This is not supported out of the box, please see bug 35779 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=35779 - Meanwhile, take a look at fellow IRC user AhtiK's plug-in - http://ahtik.com/blog/2006/06/18/first-alpha-of-eclipse-word-wrap-released/ - Or try out Eclipse Colorer - http://colorer.sourceforge.net/eclipsecolorer/
[14:59:51] <KOS-MOS> The new keyword "ww" has been stored. In the future, you can ask me about "ww" and I will respond.
[15:00:16] <rcjsuen> There we go.
[15:00:19] <AhtiK> rcjsuen: cool, thanks! :)
[15:00:21] <AhtiK> ww
[15:00:28] <AhtiK> or how it activates?
[15:00:29] <AhtiK> ~ww
[15:00:29] <KOS-MOS> Looking for word wrap support in Eclipse text editors? This is not supported out of the box, please see bug 35779 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=35779 - Meanwhile, take a look at fellow IRC user AhtiK's plug-in - http://ahtik.com/blog/2006/06/18/first-alpha-of-eclipse-word-wrap-released/ - Or try out Eclipse Colorer - http://colorer.sourceforge.net/eclipsecolorer/
[15:00:34] <AhtiK> k, got it:)
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[15:06:07] <eeos> thanks everybody! I will have a go at them (if connection allows) ....
[15:06:15] <eeos> bye!
[15:07:49] <rcjsuen>  bye
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[15:16:39] <_ergo_> hello, i have had problems with stable eclipse and  64 bit windows, i got advice here to use 3.4M4 64bit edition instead
[15:17:14] <_ergo_> but there are problems and errors everywhere, with WTP, Aptana etc. is there other way to use eclipse on 64 bit windows ?
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[15:24:06] <rcjsuen> _ergo_: there are major UI problems on older versions
[15:25:01] <_ergo_> hmm... so i have a bit of problem then , the stable is usable and i can create php problems but there are issues with wizards etc, and the unstable that isnit very workable :/
[15:25:53] <_ergo_> any advice ? i really cant switch os version to 32 bit :/
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[15:37:54] <mohbana_> hi guys anyone know where this is specified? @author ${user}
[15:38:18] <rcjsuen> it's in a template
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[15:39:24] <mohbana_> but where does it get the value of ${user} from initially?
[15:40:09] <rcjsuen> System prop, user.name
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[15:45:58] <st1Mmer> someone built gvSig under eclipse?
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[15:51:48] <mohbana_> does anyone know suns current position on swt?
[15:52:22] <krbarnes> mohbana_: what do you mean?
[15:52:34] <mohbana_> are they in favour of it?
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[15:56:18] <krbarnes> mohbana_: well, they're still developing Swing. I can't comment on what Sun likes or dislikes though.
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[16:06:41] <mohbana_> thank whats a good eclipse manual book?
[16:06:57] <mohbana_> as in for general use teaching features and short cuts etc.
[16:07:24] <rcjsuen> for java jdt has a tips and tricks page in Help i think?
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[16:39:42] <robot_jesus> is their a way to refactor a constructor, so that when I add a parameter to it, all instantiations of it will add a null parm or something ?
[16:39:55] <robot_jesus> or even better I could tell it what to add as a parameter
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[16:44:10] <paulweb515_> robot_jesus: what have you tried from the Refactor menu?
[16:44:45] <paulweb515_> robot_jesus: I'd go for Change Method Signature myself
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[16:46:07] <robot_jesus> checking
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[16:50:22] <robot_jesus> works!  :)
[16:50:27] <simmerz> How do I increase the size of eclipses' heap space?
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[16:50:56] <simmerz> also, what would cause PDT SDK feature to say it's not configured properly
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[16:54:19] <robot_jesus> simmerz: you have your interpeters set up ?
[16:54:27] <robot_jesus> ~eclipse.ini
[16:54:28] <KOS-MOS> Want to set startup flags for eclipse, like -vm, -vmargs, or -consolelog? Edit your eclipse.ini file. - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse.ini - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_How_do_I_run_Eclipse%3F#eclipse.ini
[16:54:34] <robot_jesus> ^ simmerz
[16:54:36] <paulweb515_> simmerz: you can increase your eclipse heap size by editing the eclipse/eclipse.ini file
[16:54:46] <simmerz> ok
[16:55:45] <simmerz> yep, looking through that now. thanks
[16:57:01] <simmerz> hmm, didn't realise it was the vm size. I've set that as 384MB. should be enough! but subclipse and pdt are having issues it appears, and pdt says the sdk feature is misconfigured
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[17:02:43] <Jed_84> hi everyone
[17:03:22] <Jed_84> I've done a checkout of a project with Subclipse and commanded it to create a new project for this code
[17:03:58] <Jed_84> then I right-clicked the class containing the main method of my application and clicked run as->java application
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[17:05:19] <Jed_84> I'm getting the Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/mycompany/TheClassWithMainMethod
[17:06:04] <rcjsuen> Jed_84: please pastebin your project's .project file
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[17:08:55] <ziofabbri> hi all
[17:09:00] <rcjsuen> ziofabbri: Hi
[17:09:13] <ziofabbri> any plugin for color rgb??
[17:09:14] <ziofabbri> :D
[17:09:22] <rcjsuen> color rgb?
[17:09:38] <ziofabbri> i dunno how to say that in eng
[17:09:42] <ziofabbri> color palette
[17:09:49] <rcjsuen> ziofabbri: To do...?
[17:09:56] <rcjsuen> What do you need a colour palette for?
[17:10:06] <ziofabbri> to select a color and have the #FFFFFF right on hand while coding
[17:10:21] <ziofabbri> doing some css stuff
[17:10:26] <rcjsuen> there might be such a plug-in, i dunno
[17:10:27] <rcjsuen> ~plugins
[17:10:28] <KOS-MOS> Look for plug-ins at the Eclipse Plug-in Central (http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/) and EclipsePlugins (http://eclipse-plugins.info)
[17:10:37] <rcjsuen> You could write one.
[17:10:42] <rcjsuen> That certainly won't be hard.
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[17:11:49] <lemmy> where does org.eclipse.osgi.signedcontent live on dev.eclipse.org?
[17:12:11] <rcjsuen> lemmy: the hell is that
[17:12:32] <rcjsuen> what classes are in it
[17:12:56] <lemmy> SingedContent and SignedContentFactory both imports in org.eclipse.ui
[17:13:14] <lemmy> AboutBundleData
[17:13:25] <rcjsuen> ~211745
[17:13:29] <KOS-MOS> See bug 211745 - [sec] Graduate signedcontent API and related services - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=211745
[17:13:32] <rcjsuen> whoops
[17:13:35] <rcjsuen> er wait, right, this one
[17:14:17] <rcjsuen> lemmy: org.eclipse.osgi/security?
[17:14:30] <Jed_84> where's the pastebin?
[17:14:37] <rcjsuen> lemmy: http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/org.eclipse.osgi/security/src/org/eclipse/osgi/signedcontent/
[17:14:40] <rcjsuen> ~tell Jed_84 about pastebin
[17:14:41] <KOS-MOS> Jed_84: Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[17:15:00] <lemmy> remy: thx
[17:15:03] <rcjsuen> np
[17:15:41] <Jed_84> http://pastebin.com/m3d033b99
[17:15:53] <Jed_84> here it is my .project file
[17:15:57] <Jed_84> forgot to say, i'm on a mac
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[17:16:14] <rcjsuen> Jed_84: pastebin your .classpath file
[17:16:19] <rcjsuen> Jed_84: and did you do Project / Clean?
[17:17:47] <Jed_84> yeah, i did, but it's not working
[17:18:55] <rcjsuen> Jed_84: well, do you see physical .class files being created?
[17:19:34] <Jed_84> this is the .classpath file
[17:19:35] <Jed_84> http://pastebin.com/m6f744e66
[17:19:47] <rcjsuen> holy moly
[17:20:01] <rcjsuen> talk about third party libraries
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[17:23:50] <Jed_84> fuck it
[17:23:52] <Jed_84> it works
[17:23:56] <Jed_84> haha
[17:24:06] <Jed_84> thanks
[17:24:18] <Jed_84> it wasn't compiling anything
[17:25:07] <rcjsuen> Jed_84: ok
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[17:29:03] <rcjsuen> Is it just me or does refreshing orbit branches always take forever?
[17:29:07] <rcjsuen> I _am_ using 'Search Deeply'.
[17:29:13] <rcjsuen> But I think if I don't I never get anything back.
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[17:31:39] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: haven't had to use search deeply.
[17:32:00] <rcjsuen> really, maybe i'll try not using deeply next time
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[17:33:45] <arthur_kalm> can anyone point me to a good Ant channel or good Ant forum
[17:33:55] <arthur_kalm> this junit task is driving me crazy
[17:34:20] <rcjsuen> arthur_kalm: are you running Ant in Eclipse or Ant in the command line?
[17:34:25] <rcjsuen> isn't there like #ant or ##ant?
[17:34:30] <rcjsuen> Apache usually works on mailing lists.
[17:34:33] <rcjsuen> You could just ask on the ML.
[17:34:38] <rcjsuen> there's also an faq entry on JUnit IIRC
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[17:37:12] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, yeah the IRC channels have like 1 person in them
[17:37:26] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, I'm using Ant in both, but it's not working in either
[17:37:42] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, I keep getting a stupid ClassNotFoundException for my test cases when they are clearly there
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[17:41:10] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, http://pastebin.com/d695ed083 is the target itself. It's so simple
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[17:43:38] <rcjsuen> or so it seems
[17:44:01] <rcjsuen> arthur_kalm: pastebining your console stuff would be helpful too (the command you use and the ant error etc)
[17:44:05] <rcjsuen> you oculd also try ##java
[17:44:09] <rcjsuen> i'm sure there are Ant wizards there
[17:44:34] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, sure I'll try that. Here, let me pastebin the debug output
[17:45:22] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, http://pastebin.com/d19eac7dd
[17:45:45] <arthur_kalm> on line 191 it finds DbFieldTest.java
[17:45:52] <arthur_kalm> and ommits it because it was compiled
[17:45:59] <rcjsuen> can you run any tests?
[17:46:00] <rcjsuen> i mean
[17:46:13] <rcjsuen> there's a lotta variables here with your "weird" classpath
[17:46:27] <rcjsuen> In a new Java project, will Ant run one single JUnit test
[17:46:29] <rcjsuen> is what i'm trying to say
[17:47:01] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, the test cases do run by themselves by hand in Eclipse
[17:47:04] <arthur_kalm> I haven't tried with a new project
[17:47:07] * arthur_kalm goes to try
[17:47:20] <rcjsuen> running by themselves
[17:47:25] <rcjsuen> you mena running within Eclipse in 'JUnit' view?
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[17:49:00] <arthur_kalm> yes
[17:49:32] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, wow, I just checked my build path in Eclipse and it's saying that JUNIT_HOME is nonmodifable, deprecated
[17:49:44] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, it says to Use the JUnit library instead... huh?
[17:49:45] <rcjsuen> yes, that has been dep'ed
[17:50:11] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, interesting... so they say to add the JUnit jar to my build path myself?
[17:50:18] <rcjsuen> I'm not positive what they are referring to.
[17:50:18] <rcjsuen> Possibly.
[17:50:29] <rcjsuen> I just work with OSGi bundles so this issue doesn't affect me.
[17:50:55] <arthur_kalm> OSGi bundles?
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[17:51:14] <njbartlett> I think it means add the "User Library" for JUnit to your build path
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[17:52:04] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: well, one would have to craft their own
[17:52:06] <rcjsuen> i considered _that_
[17:52:12] <rcjsuen> but manually doing it isn't very user-friendly per se
[17:52:14] <rcjsuen> but anyway
[17:53:12] <njbartlett> Oh wait, it's not a "User" Library, it's a Library
[17:53:33] <rcjsuen> well, they do call it User Library in pref pag eanyway ;p
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[17:53:41] <rcjsuen> Assuming that
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[17:53:45] <rcjsuen> we are, actually, talking about the same thing.
[17:54:06] <njbartlett> arthur_kalm: If you right-click on your project and select Build Path -> Add Libraries... then one of the entries should be JUnit
[17:54:24] <njbartlett> Oh maybe I should read the whole thread?
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[17:54:37] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Want to tell me to shut up now?
[17:54:57] <arthur_kalm> njbartlett, yep I did that
[17:54:58] <arthur_kalm> it works
[17:55:04] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: no, your solution sounds correct
[17:55:11] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: I think it is I who was thinking of the wrong thing.
[17:55:13] <robot_jesus> rcjsuen: is a robot
[17:55:37] <rcjsuen> robot_jesus: I think we had this discussion before.
[17:56:25] <robot_jesus> yea , it was too much for you and you short circuited
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[17:56:33] <robot_jesus> thats why you don't remeber it completely
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[17:56:46] <rcjsuen> Clever.
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[17:58:57] <arthur_kalm> LOL
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[18:01:40] <ijuma> lol
[18:04:29] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, actually, I should have said that the target does work if I run just one test
[18:04:36] <arthur_kalm> i.e. not the batch test
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[18:15:04] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, yes it does work in a new project
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[18:31:27] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, :(, noone in the #java channel is answering me either :(
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[18:32:48] <NekoKun> We have a project made all based on jDev standards... But we want to migrate to NetBeans or Eclipse. My work mates claim that the facades are made all different, and they don't know how to fix it. Anyone know any article regarding that?
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[18:38:07] <njbartlett> NekoKun: What are facades?
[18:39:20] <NekoKun> session beans for EJB3...
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[18:39:47] <njbartlett> NekoKun: I see. And why would they be different between JDeveloper and Eclipse?
[18:40:07] <NekoKun> \o/ I don't know... they just say it is different....
[18:40:43] <njbartlett> NekoKun: Okay. Maybe get them to explain the problem better. Or get them to come onto IRC and ask themselves.
[18:40:56] <NekoKun> Ok... ^_^'
[18:41:06] <njbartlett> NekoKun: Somebody can probably help, but not without understanding the question :-)
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[18:41:53] <NekoKun> They just explained: Seem that jDev use some standards to OC4J that don't work with glassfish and others...
[18:42:05] <arthur_kalm> hmm can Eclipse not debug ant files?
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[18:47:09] <b0red> im trying to launch the main class, it says: Could not find the main class. Program will exit. <- JVM Launcher
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[18:48:49] <paulweb515_> b0red: how are you launching it?  context menu>Run As>Java Application?
[18:48:57] <b0red> yes
[18:49:06] <b0red> and i select the launcher class
[18:50:04] <paulweb515_> b0red: Do you mean you used Run>Run Settings to open the launch config dialog?
[18:50:58] <b0red> yes
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[18:52:38] <paulweb515_> b0red: so you've picked your project, and did you enter a classname that contains the main(String[] args) static method?
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[18:54:18] <toresbe> Howdy.
[18:54:26] <toresbe> Is this the appropriate place to ask about Eclipse PDT?
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[18:58:31] <paulweb515_> toresbe: you can ask, although I think we're a little light on PDT users/committers
[18:59:16] <toresbe> OK
[19:02:27] <toresbe> An error has occurred. See error log for more details.
[19:02:28] <toresbe> org.eclipse.emf.ecore.util.EcoreEMap$DelegateEObjectContainmentEList
[19:02:34] <toresbe> that didn't take long
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[19:04:44] <paulweb515_> toresbe: if it spit that out, I think your PDT is unhappy
[19:05:09] <paulweb515_> toresbe: your best bet would be to post to the PDT newsgroup (some supporting bit that requires EMF is having trouble)
[19:07:30] <toresbe> I just created a new file.
[19:08:15] <toresbe> Hrmph. And Help>Software Updates>Find and install... simply does not do anything
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[19:09:02] <Gudmundur> Can I somehow turn on debugging + see what exception is thrown when eclipse crashes?
[19:09:29] <paulweb515_> Gudmundur: in a self hosted eclipse, or in your actual running eclipse?
[19:09:46] <toresbe> Christ!
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[19:10:09] <Gudmundur> actual eclipse, I'm trying if I open the Open Resource window, it crashes
[19:11:03] <toresbe> I have opened the program four times, and have gotten four unrelated errors which all seem to stop stuff from working.
[19:11:18] <paulweb515_> Gudmundur: a JVM crash?  In that case, shouldn't you have a core file and an hs_err_pid.log file?
[19:11:30] <toresbe> Oh - but "Find and install..." at least made the system stall for a few seconds this time...
[19:11:46] <paulweb515_> toresbe: where did you get your PDT from?  Does it work any better if you untar it into your home directory?
[19:12:21] <toresbe> paulweb515_: I've gotten the whole package thing.
[19:12:22] <Gudmundur> paulweb515_: don't know whether this is a jvm crash or what, I should probably get java-macosx to dump a core / hs_err
[19:12:28] <toresbe> I just need to figure it out for a while. :)
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[19:18:03] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: got an interesting one for you if you get bored.  bug 209336.  is it a problem with the runtime or eclipse
[19:19:13] <Gudmundur> paulweb515_: I think eclipse is segfaulting :)
[19:19:34] <toresbe> GAH! Every SINGLE time I start it, or attempt ANY action, I get a *COMPLETELY* useless and uninformative error message! "Error creating the view. Click More Details for more information." I click more details. "Error creating the view." Gee, thanks!
[19:19:39] <toresbe> I give up. This is unusable
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[19:20:14] <d_a_carver> toresbe: what system and jvm are you using?
[19:20:49] <d_a_carver> Gudmundur: same question, what os and jvm
[19:21:18] <Gudmundur> d_a_carver: Mac OS X, default Java 5 from apple, build 1.5.0_13-b05-237
[19:23:41] <d_a_carver> pombreda: You around....you run on Mac don't you?  Any idea what is happening with Gudmundur?
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[19:26:31] <Gudmundur> I've found that it happens in SWT disposeWindow
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[19:28:19] <vwegert> Mac users around?
[19:28:22] * vwegert listens up
[19:28:51] <d_a_carver> vwegert: not a mac user but what you got, we have a few hanging around here though.
[19:29:10] <vwegert> Anything I can do to help speed up processing bug 216051
[19:29:11] <vwegert> ?
[19:29:21] <d_a_carver> ~bug216051
[19:29:22] <KOS-MOS> See bug 216051 - Launching SWT Apps fails with preview of Java 6 on Mac - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=216051
[19:30:19] <d_a_carver> there are several known bugs with 1.6, seems more cropping up daily.  Best to stick with a 1.5 jre if you can for now.
[19:30:52] <vwegert> I've got a rather big project I can'T downgrade...
[19:31:25] <d_a_carver> vwegert: Well, you can launch Eclipse with a 1.5 JRE, but set your project for a 1.6 jre and it will compile to the 1.6 byte code.
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[19:31:57] <d_a_carver> vwegert: eclipse uses it's own compiler.
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[19:33:12] <vwegert> d_a_carver: I know, but I can't launch the 1.6 byte code in a 1.6 jre as soon as it uses SWT
[19:35:21] <d_a_carver> vwegert: well could be a bug in their java implementation, have you opened a bug against the apple java 6 preview on apple's site.
[19:35:36] <d_a_carver> I would tackle it from both ends.
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[19:39:28] <vwegert> d_a_carver: not yet
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[19:46:58] <rcjsuen> arthur_kalm: yes, you should be able to set breakpoints in an Ant file
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[19:47:00] <rcjsuen> ~209336
[19:47:01] <KOS-MOS> See bug 209336 - Cannot import a schema using the wizard - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=209336
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[19:47:57] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: it's a weird 1.6 vs 1.5 bug
[19:50:43] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: i guess this'll depend on the wizard code itself
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[19:51:15] <rcjsuen> I know there's a problem with FileLocator, but we're not talking about bundles here anyway.
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[19:52:42] <rcjsuen> are they using the same parser in 1.5 and 1.6?
[19:56:17] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: yeah..it's an eclipse issue, and it has to do with uri encoding...I think something changed in the way 1.6 is expecting stuff to come in.
[19:56:48] <d_a_carver> probably some rule tightening on 1.6 that was allowed under 1.6
[19:56:51] <d_a_carver> 1.5 even
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[20:13:12] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, hmm
[20:13:28] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, I ran it as "debug" and it doesn't catch the breakpoint
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[20:13:46] <rcjsuen> it's worked for me before afaik
[20:14:01] <maznaz> Is there a channel for pdt specifically?
[20:14:10] <rcjsuen> maznaz: no
[20:14:15] <rcjsuen> maznaz: try here or the pdt newsgroup
[20:14:37] <maznaz> Okay, just got another developer to switch from dreamweaver to eclipse for PHP dev and he's asking for a design view
[20:14:46] <maznaz> Is there something like that in eclipse/pdt or can I set it up?
[20:14:59] <maznaz> just a basic html rendering of the current page
[20:16:46] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, hmm now it works :D
[20:17:12] <rcjsuen> maznaz: i think wtp has something like that, which should've been included with pdt
[20:18:45] <maznaz> Yeah wtp is in. Any idea where I could see a function list for it?
[20:19:13] <rcjsuen> Function list?
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[20:19:33] <maznaz> feature list
[20:19:42] <maznaz> can't see much on the wtp eclipse.org page
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[20:20:19] <maznaz> oh found a tutorial site
[20:20:35] <rcjsuen> there's probably a New & Noteworthy somewhere
[20:21:21] <maznaz> ok ta
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[20:23:03] <d_a_carver> maznaz: if you have the full WTP installed not just WST, then you can use the Web Page Designer
[20:23:58] <maznaz> Where might I find that
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[20:24:38] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: i thot pdt needs full wtp
[20:24:44] <rcjsuen> maybe i'm wrong
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[20:25:09] <maznaz> I believe it has it yeah
[20:25:50] <d_a_carver> so maznaz you should be able to right click on an HTML file and say open with->Web Page Designer
[20:26:16] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: no it really only needs wst
[20:26:40] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: wtp includes all the j2ee stuff which typically a PDT person doesn't need.
[20:27:45] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: it's one of the design issues I'm struggling with, with the XSL Tooling, trying to make sure we don't depend on JDT for anything.
[20:28:24] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: so sdk requirement is a lie? http://download.eclipse.org/tools/pdt/downloads/?release=I20071210
[20:28:45] <rcjsuen> Sounds like we might need another bug
[20:29:37] <maznaz> That's perfect anyway, thanks.
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[20:33:02] <pombreda> d_a_carver: Gudmundur: hey
[20:33:02] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: yes, it's a lie.
[20:33:07] <pombreda> kinda busy atm :-P
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[20:38:08] <pombreda> vwegert: btw, having a big project depending on Java6 on mac is a big risk imho.... it is not an official or stable release in any way or shape imho. just a dev preview.
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[20:38:27] <pombreda> vwegert: do not expect that to be a high prio for the swt guys either, imho
[20:38:59] <pombreda> as the problem may quite possibly be coming from the Java6 implementation
[20:39:29] <pombreda> Gudmundur: an you paste a log
[20:39:32] <pombreda> ~pastebin
[20:39:32] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[20:39:36] <pombreda> *can you
[20:39:39] <spiffytech> I downloaded Eclipse Classic for Linux and am trying to run it. When it opens, there's no options to create a new workspace, or a new anything, and most of the menu options are greyed out.
[20:40:01] <vwegert> pombreda: it's not urgent, just quite inconvenient for me that I can do about everything with my shiny new mac but work on this project
[20:40:20] <pombreda> vwegert: use java 5 and you will be fine
[20:40:23] <rcjsuen> ~tell spiffytech about info
[20:40:24] <KOS-MOS> spiffytech: Please state your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), your Java runtime environment (unless you checked in your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, you do not know _for sure_, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), your Eclipse version, and where did you download Eclipse from.
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[20:41:18] <vwegert> pombreda: As I said, I can't downgrade this project... There's some issue with the annotations that keep it from compiling...
[20:41:38] <spiffytech> x86, Linux, JRE v. 1.6.0, Eclipse Classic v. 3.3.1.1, from eclipse.org/downloads
[20:41:48] <d_a_carver> vwegert: are you using any annotations that are 1.6 specific.
[20:42:17] <vwegert> d_a_carver: it complained about almost very single @override
[20:42:57] <vwegert> And since nobody was able to point me to a comparison sheet "what's new in Java 1.6" yet, I don't know whether anything I use is 1.6 specific
[20:43:41] <pombreda> vwegert: are you sure your eclipse java projet are actually USINg java6 as a jre ?
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[20:43:48] <pombreda> and not java 5
[20:44:53] <vwegert> pombreda: well, switching the workspace default jre solves the problem (for trivial test projects)
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[20:46:23] <pombreda> vwegert: switching to j5 to j6?
[20:46:26] <vwegert> pombreda: and in the console output, I can see java.version=1.6.0_01-dp
[20:46:42] <vwegert> pombreda: in that direction it causes the problem to appear
[20:47:15] <pombreda> ok so try to use j5 for now. the likeliness that major j6 apis are used is low, and could be avoided imho.
[20:47:57] <pombreda> at a project team level, and you may be able to handle that case by case with dev that actually create such deps
[20:48:10] <pombreda> *with the dev
[20:49:42] <vwegert> I'm not sure why, but after checking out the 1.6 project and changing the plug-in required execution environment to 1.5, I Get tons of compilation errors
[20:50:35] <pombreda> vwegert: try pde-tools/update classpath and a clean?
[20:50:43] <rcjsuen> Looks like echelog has "stopped logging".
[20:50:45] <rcjsuen> good lord
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[20:51:07] <vwegert> vwegert: I'm just starting again with a clean workspace to be sure I don't have any old stuff disturbing my experiments
[20:51:10] <pombreda> rcjsuen: it is logging just what you said :-P
[20:51:16] <pombreda> rcjsuen: http://echelog.matzon.dk/logs/browse/eclipse
[20:51:25] <rcjsuen> pombreda: maybe Firefox is caching
[20:51:50] <rcjsuen> now it loaded fine
[20:51:50] <pombreda> rcjsuen: I an see in the log : [20:51:25] <rcjsuen> pombreda: maybe Firefox is caching
[20:51:50] <rcjsuen> oh well
[20:52:04] <rcjsuen> just making sure i didn't miss anything
[20:52:07] <rcjsuen> in those three minutes while rebooting
[20:52:12] <rcjsuen> Someone might've been talking behind my back.
[20:52:17] <rcjsuen> Y'know, you guys do it all the time.
[20:53:05] <vwegert> s/vwegert/pombreda/ in my last response... already talking to myself... %-)
[20:54:27] <pombreda> hehe
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[20:58:41] <Gudmundur> pombreda: I added it to a issue in bugzilla: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=217368
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[20:59:35] <vwegert> pombreda: 2051 Errors, 103 Warnings
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[21:00:33] <vwegert> Oh, most of them are oAW problems - looks like their builder went crazy
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[21:02:16] <vwegert> BTW, how is this "find similar problems" button in the quick fix dialog supposed to work?
[21:02:58] <pombreda> Gudmundur: I'd say that is an swt problem that could MAY be remediated with hack in the short term: use the lastest swt from 3.4 instead. but that would be hacky
[21:03:09] <pombreda> or may be that is resolved in 332 ?
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[21:07:01] <krbarnes> Gudmundur: that's a duplicate of ~207827
[21:07:04] <KOS-MOS> See bug 207827 - [Leopard] VM crash while dismissing dialog - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=207827
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[21:10:53] <pombreda> krbarnes: awesome and swt dude around! welcome  :-)
[21:11:14] <pombreda> krbarnes: what do you think of using a 3.4 swt in a 3.3 install? that shoudl work, would it?
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[21:11:35] <pombreda> Imean, awesome, an SWT dude is here :-)
[21:11:44] <krbarnes> I _think_ it will be fine.
[21:12:54] <pombreda> Gudmundur: so you have a work around potentially to bail you out... or if you are not comfy, you can use an early 3.4 milestone
[21:13:37] <pombreda> krbarnes: i used in advanced swt version on mac with older eclipse sdk with success. like when the intel architecture came around
[21:14:16] <pombreda> krbarnes: that is possible because swt rocks :-)
[21:14:41] <krbarnes> pombreda: we're normally pretty good about backward compatibility. I just haven't tried it so I'm hesitant to guarantee anything.
[21:15:21] <pombreda> krbarnes: I may give it shot and I'll report on 207827 if that works fine for me
[21:16:22] <krbarnes> pombreda: sounds good. That bug has been fixed for quite a while now. Any of the M or I builds in the last couple months shouldn't crash.
[21:16:54] <pombreda> krbarnes: :-)  *sigh*  apple is quite good at creating those mess at times ;-)
[21:17:04] <pombreda> with leopard for instance
[21:18:19] <krbarnes> pombreda: true, but vista had it's share of problems too. Overall Leopard wasn't too bad for us.
[21:18:30] <pombreda> true
[21:19:09] <pombreda> krbarnes: are you the one working on the cocoa impl ?
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[21:20:25] <krbarnes> I own all the cocoa bugs right now, but we don't have any time allocated except for reviewing and releasing patches. I'll be involved when we ramp up again.
[21:20:37] <pombreda> krbarnes: :-P
[21:21:01] <pombreda> krbarnes: i'll be curious to find out how that will  play at runtime with OSGi ..  ie what will be the deciding factor to pick cocoa over carbon in an eclipse launch as a windowing system?
[21:21:14] <pombreda> might be just setting a sys prop... :-P
[21:21:17] <vwegert> ...wtf?
[21:21:24] <vwegert> My first Eclipse crash on OSX...
[21:21:45] <krbarnes> pombreda: no, there will be separate builds, like WPF and win32 on windows.
[21:22:51] <pombreda> krbarnes: sure, but the  osgi  ativation of one fragment or the other is still a mystery to me... I'll need to play a bit to see how this works
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[21:23:16] <pombreda> that is when two ws are available, which one will be picked?
[21:23:34] <krbarnes> pombreda: different launcher.
[21:23:42] <pombreda> krbarnes: ah!
[21:23:53] <pombreda> krbarnes: makes sense
[21:24:08] <vwegert> KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE in o.e.swt.carbon.OS.DisposeWindow - iw this something I should report?
[21:24:24] <krbarnes> vwegert:  ~207827
[21:24:29] <KOS-MOS> See bug 207827 - [Leopard] VM crash while dismissing dialog - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=207827
[21:24:30] <pombreda> :-D
[21:24:47] <pombreda> the bug of the day sounds like :-P
[21:24:57] <krbarnes> yeah, I'll keep that one in the buffer.
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[21:33:41] <b0red> paulweb515_, yes i did
[21:33:54] <b0red>     public static void main(String[] aArgs) throws Exception
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[22:14:03] <reind> anyone know how to get eclipse to igore the 'target' or 'bin' dirs when using the 'open type' tool?
[22:14:17] <reind> ignore even
[22:14:18] <rcjsuen> reinDon't think that's possible.
[22:14:51] <reind> hm too bad, would be nice =)
[22:15:08] <rcjsuen> reind: What is your use case?
[22:15:51] <reind> CTRL+SHIFT+T, enter class name, see options from both src and target dirs... would be nice if there were only 1 option
[22:16:16] <rcjsuen> reind: I only see one actually.
[22:16:23] <rcjsuen> reind: but perhaps you could consider Ctrl+Shift+R
[22:17:01] <reind> rcjsuen: actually sorry you're right, i'm thinking of Open Resource...
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[22:19:42] <reind> google to the rescue http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/maven-users/200602.mbox/%3CFB423729EE4D4245897BFD96A50E39D07AAD3F at FFCEML002 dot corp.copart.com%3E
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[22:23:27] <rcjsuen> reind: Thank you for sharing the solution.
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[22:27:52] <reind> rcjsuen: np
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[22:43:22] <Gudmundur> krbarnes & pombreda: thanks dudes! I didn't find that report when I looked before, but at least now I know there's a fix on the way :)
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[22:51:15] <pombreda> Gudmundur: :-)
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[23:05:07] <rchern> ok i'm blanking here.  i imported a project using subclipse, and it doesn't seem to be recognized as a java project.  didn't there use to be a "convert to java project" or have i lost it?
[23:05:18] <rcjsuen> rchern: Never was. Use Check Out As...
[23:06:39] <rchern> ...a project configured in new project wizard right?
[23:07:07] <rcjsuen> say what now
[23:08:55] <rchern> the option "check out as a project configured using the New Project Wizard" is what i used.  isn't that what you were asking me to do?
[23:09:02] <rcjsuen> i think that's it
[23:10:29] <rchern> i guess i'll delete it and try again then.
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[23:11:10] <garethfn> hi
[23:11:31] <garethfn> i was keeping some  image file in /bin in a project
[23:11:34] <rcjsuen> rchern: you could also del the project (but not the files)
[23:11:40] <garethfn> i did a full rebuild and eclipse deleted the file
[23:11:41] <rcjsuen> rchern: then make a new Java project with that same name
[23:11:45] <rcjsuen> and see if JDT will autodetect stuff properly
[23:11:49] <garethfn> any way i can get that file back?
[23:12:01] <rcjsuen> garethfn: you could try to use Restore from Local History
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[23:14:41] <garethfn> rcjsuen: nope its not there
[23:15:12] <rcjsuen> garethfn: you know what i'm referring to right
[23:15:19] <rcjsuen> ii
[23:15:45] <garethfn> "no deleted resources in local history for selected container"
[23:15:59] <rcjsuen> i gues you're screwed thenn
[23:16:09] <rcjsuen> at least, i'm out of ideas
[23:16:10] <garethfn> why did eclipse delete it?
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[23:16:31] <rcjsuen> because it was in an output folder
[23:16:49] <rcjsuen> and when things are in the compile/build/output foloer, it gets cleaned
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[23:17:33] <garethfn> it could have at least warned me
[23:17:54] <rcjsuen> garethfn: File a bug then.
[23:18:11] <garethfn> and where should i put resource files?
[23:18:25] <rcjsuen> for what you're doing, probably in your src/ folder
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[23:18:42] <garethfn> it will be on the classpath then?
[23:18:59] <rcjsuen> garethfn: it should, try and see for yourself :)
[23:19:48] <garethfn> :(
[23:20:03] <rcjsuen> ?
[23:20:26] <garethfn> my file is still missing, so im not happy :(
[23:21:16] <rchern> rcjsuen if you pull up the calisto discovery site in the update manager how many categories do you see?
[23:21:54] <rcjsuen> rchern: I'm not on 3.2.
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[23:22:00] <rchern> blah ;)
[23:22:21] <rchern> i'm horrible with updates.  what version are you on?
[23:22:23] <robinr> garethfn: have you tried more lowlevel ways of finding things? find workspace -print0|xargs -0 grep <something>
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[23:22:39] <rcjsuen> rchern: i use integration builds (which are kinda like weekly builds)
[23:23:06] <rcjsuen> rchern: I can check if you want me to,but if you're just going to get a newer Eclipse, then I'm not going to bother.
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[23:24:53] <rcjsuen> rchern: knock yourself out http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
[23:25:17] <rchern> errr i know where the downloads are heh.
[23:25:23] <rchern> had to find a mirror that actually had the file
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[23:25:47] <rcjsuen> rchern: well, since you were on 3.2 i guessed maybe you got lost in that new downloads page ;)
[23:26:02] <rchern> would be nice if the calisto discovery site didn't get rid of things though :|
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[23:27:06] <rchern> ?  downloads page doesn't look any different to me
[23:27:23] <rcjsuen> rchern: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
[23:27:27] <rcjsuen> i mean that one that they changed in 3.3
[23:28:41] * rchern shrugs other than europa i'm not noticing big changes
[23:29:12] <rcjsuen> i could be wrong, it's been a while since i saw the 3.2 page
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[23:29:45] <rchern> well i'm gonna go make dinner, eat dinner, and probably wash the dishes before the download is done, bbl.
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[23:29:53] <rcjsuen> enjoy
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[23:52:54] <rchern> is there a europa discovery site?  i'm still at square 1 even though i now have europa haha
[23:53:34] <rcjsuen> rchern: You don't see anything in Find And Install?
[23:54:02] <rchern> errr no
[23:54:07] <rcjsuen> if you got Eclipse Classic 3.3.1.1 or whatever there should be something anyway
[23:54:10] <rcjsuen> what sites do you see?
[23:54:15] <rchern> if i said that i didn't mean it
[23:54:21] <rchern> all the sites that i had configured before
[23:54:51] <rcjsuen> did you try a fresh workspace?
[23:54:55] <rchern> maybe some new ones, i just need the wpt with all the prereqs, sigh.  it says to get from calisto discovery site but the web folder doesn't show there
[23:55:09] <rcjsuen> wtp with all the prereqs?
[23:55:19] <rcjsuen> maybe try wtp all-in-one?
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[23:56:15] <garethfn> ok
[23:56:25] <rcjsuen> ?
[23:56:28] <garethfn> stuff in src/ is not on the classpath
[23:56:34] <nitind> rchern: And where does it mention Callisto?
[23:56:35] <rcjsuen> what error are you getting
[23:56:44] <rcjsuen> nitind: i think it's that one bug i filed
[23:57:12] <rcjsuen> ~214107
[23:57:13] <KOS-MOS> See bug 214107 - Update site webpage does not mention Europa - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=214107
[23:57:24] <rcjsuen> well, at least he made it p2
[23:57:32] <garethfn> rcjsuen: a npe when i try to get a URL to it
[23:57:39] <rchern> http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/updates/
[23:57:45] <rchern> If you are just getting started with Eclipse or Eclipse Web Tools, you may want to first install from the  Callisto update site, as it would have everything you need to get started.
[23:57:50] <rcjsuen> npe huh
[23:58:00] <garethfn> so where should i put my resource files?
[23:58:08] <rcjsuen> garethfn: well, what is null, the URL?
[23:58:20] <rchern> This Web Tools Platform update site does assume you have all the pre-reqs installed.
[23:58:22] <rcjsuen> garethfn: i would put it in the src folder assuming it's configured properly
[23:58:27] <nitind> rchern: Go get the Europa for Java EE download and be sure you use a 1.5 JRE or newer.  That includes WTP.
[23:58:30] <garethfn> its default config
[23:58:39] <rcjsuen> garethfn: can you pastebin your .classpath file
[23:58:46] <rchern> i did just download the j2ee europa.
[23:58:47] <rcjsuen> garethfn: and what is null? can you patsebin the code and error?
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[23:59:23] <rchern> i still don't have a "dynamic web project" under the web folder in the new project template
[23:59:34] <rcjsuen> rchern: you unzipped in an empty folder right

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