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[00:21:08] <philk__> anybody ever integrated a "report bug with this RCP app" feature into its RCP app? Like installing a new ExceptionHandler that offers to file a bug report using mylyn connectors...?
[00:22:23] <d_a_carver> philk___: I think mylyn 2.2 has this already.
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[00:23:54] <philk__> d_a_carver: any tutorial about how to integrate that headless? I want to provide my own dialog where the non-technical user just describes what he had done that causes the error
[00:25:04] <nitind> d_a_carver: You might want to take a quick at ~217184.
[00:27:59] <nitind> ~217184
[00:28:00] <KOS-MOS> See bug 217184 - Separate Web and XML preference page category into two - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=217184
[00:31:23] <d_a_carver> nitind: yeah, we need to do it for the XSL Tools project so it shows up under the XML category.
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[00:35:15] <d_a_carver> nitind: just open a new bug in the incubator with the appropriate patch, and once you have the xml patched for 3.0m5 I can get applied to xst.ui.
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[00:39:26] <nitind> d_a_carver: So...it's bad that I committed it there as well?
[00:39:55] <d_a_carver> nitind: nope that's fine.
[00:40:27] <d_a_carver> nitind: might want to put a note out to the incubator list as well, as I don't know if Doug, Jesper and Lars are on the wtp-dev list.
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[00:43:16] <q71_> Can I change shortcuts in eclipse?  I want to change CTRL + F6 to CTRL + TAB
[00:44:22] <d_a_carver> nitind: I was thinking of creating the XML Perspective for bug 213883.  Do you want that in the XML project or for incubator?
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[00:45:24] <nitind> d_a_carver: I'm not sure how I feel about an XML-specific perspective just yet, so I think it should be in incubator for now.
[00:45:54] <d_a_carver> nitind: okay, sounds good to me...want to move that bug report to incubator then?
[00:45:55] <nitind> q71_: Check the "Keys" preference page.
[00:46:19] <nitind> d_a_carver: Sure thing.
[00:46:50] <d_a_carver> nitind: for me and my users I know they would like it...it'll fit well with the xsl tooling project anyway.
[00:47:32] <renier> hello. I'm running eclipse 3.2.2. Is the welcome page supposed to look like this? http://morales-rodriguez.net/screenshot.png
[00:47:41] <renier> it looks like an unstyled web page
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[00:49:47] <nitind> renier: It varies based on how well the integrated Web Browser is working.
[00:50:29] <q71_> thanks
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[00:52:14] <renier> nitind: if I change to the default system web broser (option under Window menu), it show like that too.
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[00:52:20] <q71_> I am using the PHP Zend plugin, when I type "<?" Eclipse closes it with " ?>"  Is there a way to make Eclipse close it without the space?  ie "?>"
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[01:09:49] <philk__> whats the url for to current eclipse binary builds (3.4)
[01:10:53] <paulweb515_> philk__: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
[01:11:18] <philk__> paulweb515: quick as always, thanks. Great community support I must say :)
[01:11:24] <paulweb515_> philk__: the I builds are the weekly 3.4 builds, the N builds are the nightly 3.4 builds
[01:11:40] <paulweb515_> philk__: I happened to be paying bills when you message went by :-)
[01:12:44] <philk__> paulweb515: I have yet to get self hosting to work to test my features within the IDE and use always the newest builds.
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[01:18:33] <nitind> That's unusual.  It works for me.
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[01:40:20] <Jimbob2k> getting a problem when trying to build a plugin, complaining about ant class path... any ideas?
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[01:51:55] <d_a_carver> nitind: what is the view id for the snippets view
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[02:12:45] <d_a_carver> nitind: well I checked in an initial code for the incubator for an XML perspective.  Called it XML Development.
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[02:22:02] <nitind> d_a_carver: Not just XML?
[02:22:21] <nitind> d_a_carver: org.eclipse.wst.common.snippets.internal.ui.SnippetsView
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[02:23:12] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: more context would be helpful
[02:23:44] <d_a_carver> nitind: follows the Plug-in Development perspective name...I could just change it to XML I guess, but I suspect it would only be used for xml development.
[02:24:31] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen : I'm guessing it's some permissions thing as it all works fine from my root account.
[02:37:42] <d_a_carver> nitind: renamed perspective to XML to fall in line with most of the other WTP perspectives.
[02:37:53] <nitind> d_a_carver: most = one...?
[02:38:13] <d_a_carver> nitind: Yeah, JPA does JPA Development.
[02:38:18] <nitind> ok, 3.
[02:38:34] <d_a_carver> DTP does DTP Development
[02:38:54] <d_a_carver> which isn't part of wtp strictly... :)
[02:40:04] <d_a_carver> also added the XPath Navigator and snippets views as well.
[02:40:21] <nitind> d_a_carver: I'll have to resync and see what that looks like.
[02:40:39] <d_a_carver> nitind: everything should be checked in now.
[02:40:52] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: gentoo linux, eclipse I20071213-1700, IBM jdk 1.5.0.6
[02:41:20] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: Not installed as an ebuild, done separately.
[02:41:57] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: i dunno, i don't have problems starting Eclipse as user
[02:42:03] <rcjsuen> i've never tried starting as root, but anyway
[02:46:12] <nitind> d_a_carver: Which plug-in contributes the perspective?
[02:46:31] <d_a_carver> org.eclipse.wst.xsl.ui
[02:48:04] <nitind> d_a_carver: Which one's right, the dependency on org.eclipse.wst.xml.ui.xpath or the org.eclipse.wst.xml.xpath.ui project in CVS?
[02:49:06] <d_a_carver> I used the latest code for cvs. org.eclipse.wst.xml.xpath.ui
[02:49:44] <nitind> d_a_carver: /org.eclipse.wst.xsl.ui/META-INF/MANIFEST.MF still refers to org.eclipse.wst.xml.ui.xpath
[02:50:11] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen : I chowned my /opt folder and it seems to work now.
[02:50:52] <d_a_carver> nitind: looks like they had the plugin id wrong, renaming now.
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[02:57:10] <d_a_carver> nitind: okay should be corrected now.
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[02:58:36] <nitind> d_a_carver: The outline customization page looks like it's in the right place to me.
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[03:01:53] <d_a_carver> ninind: http://imagebin.org/13548
[03:02:00] <d_a_carver> nitind: http://imagebin.org/13548
[03:02:18] <d_a_carver> shouldn't it be within the xml category.
[03:04:13] <nitind> d_a_carver: Yes.  Is your launcher clearing the configuration area?
[03:04:22] <d_a_carver> yes.
[03:05:20] <nitind> d_a_carver: You should resync/update that plug-in.
[03:06:29] <nitind> d_a_carver: I recall changing the page title to just "Outline Customizations" when I moved it.
[03:08:16] <d_a_carver> nitind: that fixed it.
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[03:37:35] <rawblem> where are the variables in code templates?
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[03:40:25] <rawblem> for example where do i modify ${filecomment} ?
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[03:43:14] <dos000> howdy
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[03:44:06] <rcjsuen> dos000: Hi
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[03:44:13] <dos000> anyone can tell me how i can create a feature project that repackages some of the eclipse/stp/topcased features
[03:45:03] <dos000> basically i need a way of repackaging the already running features inside eclipse. using a product file
[03:45:58] <dos000> so far i can create a feature that depends on org.eclipse.platform
[03:46:19] <dos000> but if i select stp it always complais the required plugins are missing
[03:46:57] <dos000> rcjsuen, are you eclipse pde guru per chance ?
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[03:47:42] <rawblem> dos000:  i don't think rcjsuen is (but i'm not sure)... and i know i'm not either.
[03:47:49] <rcjsuen> dos000: No, I don't do building.
[03:48:06] <rcjsuen> rawblem: I'm not sure if you can modify the values of those variable.s
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[03:48:36] <rawblem> dos000:  in order to make a feature you have to include *all* dependencies
[03:48:44] <rawblem> ok maybe i'm wrong
[03:48:49] <rawblem> actually ignore me :( i might be wrong
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[03:51:57] <rawblem> rcjsuen:   figured it out.   New Java File uses ${filecomment}, which is actually the New File template
[03:53:29] <rcjsuen> hm
[03:53:48] <rawblem> maybe i'm wrong
[03:53:55] <rawblem> i can't even get it to do anything on a new class actually
[03:53:56] <rawblem> nothing at all
[03:53:56] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[03:54:01] <rawblem> it doesnt even put /** */
[03:54:05] <rcjsuen> did you tell it to gen comments?
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[03:56:10] <rawblem> rcjsuen:  nope... looking for where to do that
[03:56:23] <rcjsuen> in the New Class wizard
[03:56:25] <rcjsuen> at the bottom
[03:56:26] <dos000> rawblem, i did inlcude it ..
[03:56:35] <dos000> it even has autodependency checks
[03:56:42] <rcjsuen> there's a way to tell it to always gen comments i think, but i dunno where
[03:57:39] <dos000> rawblem, i did this inside the feature creation project. I mean i created a feature to declare all the dependent features
[03:57:51] <rawblem> dos000:  grin... i'm no PDE master... i'm sorry
[03:58:09] <dos000> thanks ...
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[04:12:48] <zeeeee> i'm using eclipse 3.3 in linux; for as long as i can remember, ctrl-shift-u has not worked. i used to be able to use it (in another life) but i can't remember if that was on windows or linux (i've recently never heard the chance to use eclipse on windows)
[04:13:14] <zeeeee> and i use eclipse from a bunch of different machines, so it's pretty much everywhere i try
[04:13:36] <zeeeee> this hotkey broken for anyone else? is it just linux?
[04:13:38] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+Shift+U/
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[04:23:36] <rcjsuen> zeeeee: what is ctrl+shift+U?
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[04:25:20] <zeeeee> rcjsuen, identifier occurrences in file
[04:25:23] <zeeeee> used to use it all the time
[04:25:30] <zeeeee> pops up a menu
[04:25:31] <rcjsuen> ~keys
[04:25:31] <KOS-MOS> For a list of available key bindings press Ctrl + Shift + L. To configure your key bindings, see Window > Preference > General > Keys. See also http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#What.27s_the_key_for_....3F
[04:25:36] <zeeeee> usually hit i
[04:25:50] <zeeeee> the menu entry says ctrl shift u
[04:28:10] <zeeeee> rcjsuen, in that window it says ctrl shift a
[04:28:14] <zeeeee> rcjsuen, but that doesn't work either
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[04:30:22] <rcjsuen> dunno
[04:30:35] <rcjsuen> you could file a bug
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[04:46:53] <zeeeee> rcjsuen, done
[04:47:20] <rcjsuen> zeeeee: great :)
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[04:53:37] <d_a_carver> what is the plug-in spy short cut key?
[04:53:50] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: alt+shift+f1 i think
[04:54:23] <rcjsuen> or maybe ctrl+shift
[04:55:25] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: it's the first.
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[04:56:50] * nitind needs to figure out how to make the SSE dialog pop up like that
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[04:58:34] <d_a_carver> nitind: which dialog?
[04:59:47] <d_a_carver> I think plug-in spy just uses a CommandHandler and extends the AbstractCommandHandler class.
[04:59:55] <nitind> d_a_carver: Ever enable the org.eclipse.wst.sse.ui/actioncontributor/debugstatusfields trace option and watched for new things in the editor status bar?
[05:00:12] <d_a_carver> nitind: yeah, once.
[05:00:26] <nitind> d_a_carver: And double-clicked on the [number]?
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[05:00:47] <d_a_carver> nitind: yeah, once...haven't used it much. :)
[05:01:46] <d_a_carver> the new way to handle actions, is really with the command extension point, at least that is how the new org.eclipse.ui.menus extension point expects things to be handled.
[05:02:09] <nitind> Yeah, Amy needs to run through your patch.
[05:02:47] <d_a_carver> nitind: lots of examples of the Command method...actually not a lot of change in code between that and the action way of doing things, just more handled in the plugin.xml file.
[05:03:43] <d_a_carver> I figure amy is busy getting nick up to speed on formatter stuff, she's resassigned a bunch to him (I got lots of email notifications on the bugs I'm monitoring).
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[05:06:29] <rcjsuen> i saw a few of those meself
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[05:08:42] <d_a_carver> I wonder...should a dynamic web project be included in an XML Perspective as a new short cut...hmmm...  We since we don't have an 'XML Project' guess I could just include a generic project short cut.
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[05:13:31] <kaje1> Can someone point me to an article that gives an overview of the entire eclipse project? For example, defines what RCP, Application Frameworks, maybe SWT, etc...
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[05:14:53] <kaje1> Can someone point me to an article that gives an overview of the entire eclipse project? For example, defines what RCP, Application Frameworks, maybe SWT, etc...
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[05:16:17] <d_a_carver> kaje1: http://www.redhat.com/magazine/018apr06/features/eclipse_foox/
[05:16:45] <Apophis> wtf
[05:16:47] <blahdeblahN800> Hi.  I have an images directory which i want to be copied over to the bin directory when i build.  If i add it as a source dir, each file shows up individually in the bin dir - is there a way i can force it to put them in a subdirectory?
[05:16:57] <Apophis> why does Mario Adventure redirect to Super Mario World?
[05:17:08] <d_a_carver> kaje1: you can also google on: introduction to eclipse overview
[05:17:16] <Apophis> it's a SMB3 hack
[05:17:21] <kaje1> thank you d_a_carver
[05:17:35] <nitind> d_a_carver: Is there still a static web project wizard?
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[05:24:27] <d_a_carver> nitind: Yep.  Under the Web Category. in the New Wizard dialog.
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[05:26:33] <d_a_carver> nitind: Thing is...where do you draw the line....an XML project can cross many boundaries...Take for example, a Apache Cocoon project...it uses XSLT, XML, and Tomcat Servlets....but is it a dynamic web project or an XML project, because you can write a whole Cocoon website with out ever touching java code, but just need the application server to run cocoon itself.
[05:26:39] <rcjsuen> blahdeblahN800: not sure why you need it copied, only if you make a package is it going to copy it that way i think
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[06:51:01] <arooni_> hey team; how can i solve this: Ruby Mylyn Connector Feature (Optional) (0.9.3.6479) requires feature "org.eclipse.mylyn.context_feature (2.0.0.v20070628-1000)", or later version.
[06:51:04] <arooni_> how can i get that
[07:20:43] <arooni_>  /join #ruby-lang
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[08:29:09] <sakitram> hi, I'm using Eclipse v.3.3.1.1
[08:29:19] <sakitram> I use Eclipse for PHP works.
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[08:30:01] <sakitram> Previously, in my project when I move the mouse over any function call while pressing Ctrl key, I get the function become hyperlink to where it has been defined
[08:30:17] <sakitram> that does not comes now, please someone guide me to get such functionality
[08:30:19] <sakitram> please?
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[08:40:25] <sakitram> is there anybody to help on this?
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[09:47:23] <S_a_m_y> hello, some of the views in eclipse won't show up. they display a red sign and tell me some class couldn't be loaded. But when i launch from command line it's ok...
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[10:38:49] <philk_> hi! I have 3 product that basically should use the same branding in terms of some copyright texts, splashscreen, application to start... Currently I have 3 Projects with a lot of duplicated  files and stuff in the plugin.xml file. How can I share branding between products?
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[12:43:57] <Jimbob2k> hey. Is eclipse able to display any information about executables?
[12:44:39] <Jimbob2k> When I double click on my exe it loads as a binary file, i.e. doesn't do any parsing of it or allow me to explore its contents in any structured way..
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[12:46:34] <Jimbob2k> Ideally, I want to be able to see the source files it contains and set breakpoints.
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[12:59:28] <EskilA> how can I move a control from one composite to another?
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[13:04:36] <EskilA> I think I figured it out
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[13:20:31] <EskilA> When I try to change the parent of the sashForm in my subclass of MasterContentprovider my project hangs (in Synchronizer.class) when I run it, any ideas why this happens?
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[13:25:19] <monteiro> is there any way to automatically generate sites with ant ?
[13:29:24] <Jimbob2k> should eclipse always figure out that a file is an executable and do some sort of outlining of it?
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[13:42:37] <paulweb515> Jimbob2k: what kind of executable?  You mean a .jar file. or .exe (or linux equivalent)
[13:43:16] <Jimbob2k> it's actually an embeded elf. I've not setup a whole project with sources and makefiles, just started a new project and imported the elf...
[13:43:39] <Jimbob2k> the debugger works fine etc, with one problem, I can't set breakpoints in files that haven't been loaded by the editor...
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[14:43:00] <pwned> what is a way of adding multiple include directories to eclipse cdt ? I tried creating a string list variable and adding that to the includes, but it seems I have to add each one by one
[14:43:14] <pwned> that's tedious when you have 20 directories
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[14:47:54] <pwned> ah, I will inject them into the .cproject xml file.
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[14:52:32] <merdaccia> hi folks. i'm trying to create an update site with one plugin (checkstyle). i've got a plugin frament for checkstyle installed locally. do i simply add the original plugin to the update site, or do i somehow have to add the fragment?
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[14:54:10] <geaaru> hi how can i install a plugin for eclipse from file on my home eclipse directory?
[14:54:29] <geaaru> i create plugins directory and execute jar -xvf plugin.jar
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[14:55:02] <geaaru> in this way i see plugin.xml file, etc. but when i try to run eclipse plugin isn't loaded
[14:55:19] <geaaru> where is my fault ? (p.s. my system is linux)
[14:55:30] <merdaccia> you should be able to just put the jar file in the plugins/ directoruy
[14:55:50] <paulweb515> geaaru: and then run eclipse with -clean
[14:56:11] <geaaru> ok i try
[14:56:16] <merdaccia> maybe i should ask a general question. does an update site offer plugins, or just features?
[14:56:33] <merdaccia> (that way i'll know if i have to create a feature from the plugin fragment)
[14:57:34] <geaaru> no there isn't a public update site for bea weblogic netkeeper plugin, or i haven't found it
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[14:58:55] <geaaru> no doesn't work. :( i have com.bea.wlcp.wlng.trafficpath_1.0.0.jar file under /home/geaaru/.eclipse/plugins but plugin isn't loaded ... there is a way to debug plugin
[14:58:58] <geaaru> loading phase?
[14:59:31] <merdaccia> i've only ever put plugins under eclipse install directory/plugins
[14:59:42] <merdaccia> never tried it under .eclipse
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[15:22:34] <overholt> geaaru: I don't think ~/.eclipse/plugins is a default site from which things get loaded
[15:25:34] <geaaru> but i installed still android from site and plugin is installed on ~/.eclipse/plugins and so why this works and plugin of bea weblogic no?
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[15:28:38] <geaaru> i don't undestand this :'( if i copy jar file on plugin system environment directory works. But if plugins are managed only on a static path, why android plugin works
[15:28:47] <geaaru> thanks for your help
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[15:32:28] <goki_work> Is the Europa TPTP as installed from within eclipse a bit broken on linux?
[15:32:41] <goki_work> It seems to have bad permissions and truncated libraries
[15:32:45] <goki_work> and possibly other stuff
[15:35:24] <jacekp_> goki_work: if you install allInOne package it should be ok
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[15:41:28] <chillitom> is there an easy way to convert a regular project to a web project?
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[15:51:45] <nono`> hello all ! =)
[15:52:21] <nono`> i search a channel for create a eclipse plugin it's here ?
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[15:58:51] <goki_work> jacekp_: yup I'll give that a go, I've not tried uninstalling plugins before, I'll have to get rid of the automatically installed tptp
[16:01:20] <nono`> there are a channel for asking by eclipse plugin coding ?
[16:01:40] <paulweb515> nono`: yes, if you have questions on creating eclipse plugins, they can go here
[16:02:04] <nono`> =)
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[16:09:33] <arthur_kalm> Hi everyone, I was wondering if there is a plugin that would allow for clean renaming of CSS class names. I set the CSS class names in my Java files and then give those classes styles in my CSS files. I want to be able to rename the CSS class names in the Java file and have them automatically updated in my CSS files.
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[16:14:57] <gdiebel> ls
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[16:17:37] <gdiebel> uh so I was hoping for some help on debugging my eclipse issues. I am on fedora8, using sun jdk, paste: http://pastebin.com/d70ef99f6
[16:18:06] <paulweb515> arthur_kalm: you can search for plugins that provide java+css support
[16:18:07] <gdiebel> The process just hangs on quitting
[16:18:08] <paulweb515> ~plugins
[16:18:08] <KOS-MOS> Look for plug-ins at the Eclipse Plug-in Central (http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/) and EclipsePlugins (http://eclipse-plugins.info)
[16:19:14] <paulweb515> arthur_kalm: you can also provide a refactoring RenameParticipant.  The idea is that the refactoring of the java class, other participants are given the opportunity to change things like names in property files, plugin.xml or in your case CSS files
[16:19:17] <arthur_kalm> paulweb515 and KOS-MOS, I was just wondering if anyone knew out of hand :P
[16:19:52] <arthur_kalm> paulweb515, well the CSS classes are set using Strings, that's why I'm not even sure if it's possible
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[16:24:45] <ian_mac> anybody know how I would go about building a mylyn connector?  or if there is one already for gforge?
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[16:30:12] <zx|work> ian_mac: http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Mylyn_Contributor_Reference
[16:30:51] <zx|work> ian_mac: http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Mylyn_Integrator_Reference#Creating_connector_projects
[16:31:01] <ian_mac> ahhh...
[16:31:02] <ian_mac> excellent
[16:31:03] <ian_mac> thanks
[16:31:12] <zx|work> ian_mac: I'd probably start there and email the mylyn-dev email list with your intentions, I'm sure they would be very willing to help out
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[16:31:43] <zx|work> ~176067
[16:31:44] <KOS-MOS> See bug 176067 - [connector] GForge - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=176067
[16:31:44] <zx|work> see that bug for more info
[16:31:58] <ian_mac> thx
[16:32:52] <ian_mac> is it hard to do?
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[16:35:58] <zx|work> ian_mac: I don't know... I'm sure it isn't something you can do in 30 mins ;)
[16:36:10] <ian_mac> yeah...  I figure that...
[16:36:19] <ian_mac> we'll see how it goes :)
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[16:36:26] <ian_mac> no harm in trying :)
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[16:39:12] <jacekp_> zx|work: how about drag'n'drop plugin from package explorer to plug-in registry? (apropo 198189)
[16:39:32] <BudgetDedicated> Hi I'm trying to install the deb editor clay into eclipse but I get a dependency error for draw2d where do I find it? or wacht do I select to get it installed?
[16:39:51] <jacekp_> this way only people who know what they do, would do that :)
[16:40:05] <zx|work> jacekp_: sure, that would be another way to do it, but I still think a menu option would be good ;)
[16:40:16] <zx|work> BudgetDedicated: draw2d is part of the GEF project (www.eclipse.org/gef)
[16:41:15] <jacekp_> yeah menu option is fine too...
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[16:49:25] <mikanoza> hello
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[16:50:59] <mikanoza> I am looking for a way to add my own icon to Eclipse's Welcome screen, here: http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2389/2233078208_f1f7d042e0.jpg Does anybody know how to do that?
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[17:22:58] <Marfi> im trying to get eclipse to play friendly with c++. but, for some reason, its not working right. ive installed eclipse-cdt, and still doesn't work. any ideas?
[17:23:23] <plexq> AFAIK Eclipse is a buggy POS that just randomly doesn't work
[17:24:02] <Marfi> well thats comforting. any ideas how to get it to work?
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[17:27:10] <plexq> try the mailing list?
[17:27:17] <plexq> this IRC channel is clearly dead
[17:28:48] <plexq> oh wait - they don't have mailing lists
[17:28:50] <plexq> they have newsgroups
[17:28:55] <plexq> except they aren't really
[17:29:28] <plexq> they are more like forums
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[17:35:10] <rcjsuen> chillitom: you probably need to modify the .project file by hand
[17:36:55] <rcjsuen> plexq: Eh? other newsgroups i use all work the same
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[17:37:12] <rcjsuen> plexq: well, if you don't like Eclipse, don't use it :)
[17:37:19] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: why feed the troll?
[17:37:47] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: i wouldn't call this feeding in my opinion actually
[17:37:53] <chillitom> rcjsuen, i copied the wst entries (builder and nature) from another project but the project didn't seem to gain any web capabilities
[17:37:54] <plexq> The forums are down at this point anyway
[17:39:07] <plexq> It's good to know that when it randomly breaks with no explaination there is no way of getting any help
[17:39:13] <plexq> awesome
[17:39:53] <rcjsuen> plexq: What OS are you on?
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[17:40:02] <plexq> Windows
[17:40:08] <plexq> thats why I'm using eclipse
[17:40:11] <rcjsuen> plexq: bit?
[17:40:22] <rcjsuen> plexq: well, there's also NetBeans and IDEA, assuming you're doing Java
[17:40:23] <plexq> 32 bit Vista Home
[17:40:38] <d_a_carver> plexq: what jvm.
[17:40:50] <plexq> 1.6
[17:41:11] <rcjsuen> plexq: what are you using Eclipse for
[17:41:18] <d_a_carver> plexq: is it sun 1.6, my experience with sun 1.6 and other applications besides eclipse is that 1.6 is still buggy.
[17:41:25] <plexq> developing a thick client application
[17:41:28] <plexq> sun 1.6
[17:41:36] <rcjsuen> in what language
[17:41:39] <plexq> java
[17:41:45] <plexq> it's a tomcat webapp on the server side
[17:41:46] <rcjsuen> so what happens
[17:41:50] <d_a_carver> plexq: 1.5 is still the recommended development for running eclipse.
[17:41:51] <plexq> and a Java Swing GUI on the client side
[17:42:12] <plexq> all my datasources just stopped working
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[17:42:49] <rcjsuen> oh well
[17:43:00] <d_a_carver> Oh well...was going to send him here: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/jre.php
[17:43:26] <d_a_carver> I've had users with stability problems and eclipse and it's always the users that are using 1.6 from sun.
[17:43:34] <rcjsuen> chillitom: did you try project / clean, or refresing?
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[17:44:06] <d_a_carver> plexq: welcome back: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/jre.php
[17:44:15] <plexq> Sorry - I'm having a very frustrating day - my internet connection totally blows
[17:44:38] <rcjsuen> sorry to hear that
[17:45:17] <plexq> I will retry with Java 5
[17:45:23] <rcjsuen> good luck
[17:45:24] <plexq> how do I change which JVM eclipse uses to start
[17:45:28] <njbartlett> Wow, 167 users online and this is a "dead" IRC channel? ;-)
[17:45:35] <d_a_carver> ~vm
[17:45:36] <KOS-MOS> To learn more about the Eclipse launcher / binary, see - http://www.eclipse.org/swt/launcher.html - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_Launcher - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/misc/launcher.html
[17:45:38] <plexq> nobody said anything for more than 10 minutes
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[17:45:52] <d_a_carver> plexq; we were all probably working.
[17:46:13] <d_a_carver> I needed a break from a problem so I popped in here to see what was happening.
[17:46:32] <rcjsuen> I'm in a class with internet connection (unlike my history class) so I'm here ;)
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[17:46:45] <BudgetDedicated> Hi this may be the wrong place to ask but I think there may be people in here that know.  I've installed PDT with both the all-in-one and with a fresh install from eclipse and adding the plugins but it seems that I do not anything pdt related in eclipse after restarting. Am I missing something?
[17:47:35] <rcjsuen> BudgetDedicated: you need a 1.5 jre
[17:47:38] <rcjsuen> that might be hthe cause
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[17:54:16] <plexq> are there any commecial vendors that do eclipse support?
[17:54:23] <d_a_carver> myeclipse
[17:54:26] <plexq> cool
[17:54:30] <rcjsuen> IBM
[17:54:46] <d_a_carver> http://www.myeclipseide.com/
[17:55:05] <plexq> I think I would rather stab my eyes out that try to get usefull information out of IBM
[17:55:14] <rcjsuen> http://www.internetnews.com/dev-news/article.php/3630571
[17:55:53] <rcjsuen> there's a listing on Eclipse.org i think
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[17:56:01] <BudgetDedicated> rcjsuen: 1.5 jre? meaning sun java 5? I think I have 6 installed
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[17:56:12] <rcjsuen> BudgetDedicated: yes, that's what i meant
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[17:56:40] <rcjsuen> http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Services-index-req-viewcatlink-cid-1.html
[17:56:43] <jacekp_> yes, here are more details on that support: http://www-306.ibm.com/software/rational/eclipse/elite/support/
[17:56:54] <BudgetDedicated> rcjsuen: will it work if I install it alongside 6?
[17:57:04] <rcjsuen> BudgetDedicated: well, 6 should work, but yes, installing 5 too should work
[17:57:21] <BudgetDedicated> with 6 it did not work for me
[17:57:25] <BudgetDedicated> I'm trying 5 now
[17:57:32] <rcjsuen> ~tell BudgetDedicated about info
[17:57:33] <KOS-MOS> BudgetDedicated: Please state your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), your Java runtime environment (unless you checked in your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, you do not know _for sure_, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), your Eclipse version, and where did you download Eclipse from.
[17:57:35] <rcjsuen> ~tell BudgetDedicated about logs
[17:57:35] <KOS-MOS> BudgetDedicated: Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[18:01:30] <BudgetDedicated> rcjsuen: thank you, it turned out that gutsy had blackdown java installed also and somehow the eclipse binary choose this one over the installed sun java 6
[18:01:45] <rcjsuen> BudgetDedicated: use -vm
[18:01:49] <rcjsuen> ~ini
[18:01:50] <KOS-MOS> Trying to configure the eclipse.ini file? Take a look at this wiki page - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse.ini
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[18:08:35] <BudgetDedicated> rcjsuen: thank you it is all working now
[18:08:45] <rcjsuen> BudgetDedicated: no prablemo
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[18:30:15] <BudgetDedicated> rcjsuen: one more question do you know if with PDT I can exclude some directories from being scanned for inclusion/problem etc ?
[18:30:27] <rcjsuen> BudgetDedicated: no, i don't use pdt
[18:30:37] <rcjsuen> in fact, i don't even know php
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[18:30:42] <BudgetDedicated> ok no problem
[18:30:56] <rcjsuen> i think what you want isn't possible
[18:31:09] <rcjsuen> or maybe that isn't the validator framework, not sure
[18:31:37] <vietcoop> http://www.eclipse.org/swt/examples.php says that, "The following SWT examples can be downloaded from the eclipse download page:" But I could not find any example soure code :-(
[18:31:52] <rcjsuen> vietcoop: i usually just look at the ~snippets
[18:31:52] <KOS-MOS> SWT Snippets - http://www.eclipse.org/swt/snippets/ - JFace Snippets - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/JFaceSnippets
[18:32:30] <rcjsuen> vietcoop: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.3.1.1-200710231652/index.php#ExamplePlugins
[18:32:46] <vietcoop> Thanks :-)
[18:32:52] <rcjsuen> his assumes you're on 3.3.1.1
[18:33:04] <krbarnes> vietcoop: they're all in CVS as well
[18:33:53] <rcjsuen> krbarnes: when is the swt page going to be updated to the "new" phoenix look ;P
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[18:35:15] <krbarnes> rcjsuen: I'll add it to my todo list. it's right behind "finish WPF port", and "finish Cocoa port" :D
[18:35:25] <rcjsuen> krbarnes: Sounds like a plan.
[18:35:38] <rcjsuen> krbarnes: Does it even get brought up in meetings? ;p
[18:36:03] <krbarnes> I don't go to any meetings
[18:36:13] <rcjsuen> well then
[18:36:58] <krbarnes> I honestly have never heard anyone complain (until now).
[18:37:22] <rcjsuen> krbarnes: that probably explains why it hasn't been updated :)
[18:38:00] <rcjsuen> I thought a "decree" was set so I figured "Well, SWT will eventually follow suit"
[18:39:27] <krbarnes> rcjsuen: I think it's more than a few minutes of work, and no one ever made it a priority.
[18:39:46] <rcjsuen> yeah, i doubt it's doable in one day
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[18:39:51] <rcjsuen> (with testing and all)
[18:40:09] <krbarnes> rcjsuen: patches would be great... I don't even know if we have a bug for that.
[18:40:24] <rcjsuen> i'll poke around and file one if there isn't
[18:44:25] <krbarnes> rcjsuen: thanks
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[18:56:36] <pdani_> hi
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[18:56:41] <pdani_> i install subclipse plugin.
[18:56:56] <pdani_> is there a keyboard binding for commit?
[18:57:10] <paulweb515> pdani_: you might have to add one manually
[18:57:20] <paulweb515> pdani_: Window>Preferences>General>Keys
[18:57:56] <pdani_> thx
[18:59:20] <pdani_> and what's the name of command?
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[18:59:46] <pdani_> oh
[18:59:53] <pdani_> "include unbound commands" checkbox...
[18:59:54] <pdani_> :-D
[19:00:16] <paulweb515> pdani_: yes ... we're getting rid of that in 3.4, and as of 3.3.2 it will default to checked
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[19:00:38] <paulweb515> (since the keys page isn't useful if you can't see the new commands)
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[19:07:25] <philk__> hi! I have 3 product that basically should use the same branding in terms of some copyright texts, splashscreen, application to start... Currently I have 3 Projects with a lot of duplicated  files and stuff in the plugin.xml file. How can I share branding between products?
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[19:36:43] <rcjsuen> philk__: you should try the rcp newsgroup if you haven't
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[19:37:34] <philk__> rcjsuen: haven't thought I would get answer more quickly here ;)
[19:37:53] <rcjsuen> philk__: you've asked this question the last couple of days
[19:40:19] <philk__> rcjsuen: yepp, you noticed that correctly. Any newsreader you can recommand except Thunderbird?
[19:40:42] <rcjsuen> philk__: On Linux I use Pan.
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[19:41:07] <philk__> rcjsuen: checking it.. thanks
[19:41:18] <rcjsuen> I think there's a Windows build for that too, it is on gtk+.
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[19:50:23] <vanpel1> hi, i tried to install the qtjambi plugin but now everytime i try to start eclipse it crashes. in the error logfile i can see that the path to the qtjambi.jar is wrong. is there any possibility to change the path via editor or how can i reset the eclipse configuration?
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[19:53:18] <rcjsuen> ~tell vanpel1 about clean
[19:53:19] <KOS-MOS> vanpel1: Please try restarting Eclipse with the '-clean' argument. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_have_just_installed_a_plug-in_but_I_do_not_see_any_indication_of_it_in_my_workspace._What_do_I_do.3F
[19:54:10] <vanpel1> i allready tried that but it still crashes. still getting "QtJambi plugin failed to load required library '/usr/share/qtjambi-4/lib//lib/libqtjambi'"
[19:54:25] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[19:54:31] <rcjsuen> Try Trolltech's support avenues.
[19:55:39] <vanpel1> rcjsuen: ok. i will try that. thank you a lot
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[20:01:37] <mikanoza> does anybody know what's the status of TPTP AGR? I found couple of articles that say that it's dead. Is it true?
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[20:05:56] <d_a_carver> mikanoza: not sure, if you want to do gui testing you might want to check out: http://live.eclipse.org/node/474
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[20:07:59] <arthur_kalm> Hi everyone, I'm looking around the eclipse site for some modeling tools and I'm a little confused. When I glanced at the documentation for EMF it looked like you could add something to the Javadoc of your classes and have it automatically generate UML diagrams. Is that true?
[20:08:08] <arthur_kalm> which modelling tool would you recommend?
[20:10:06] <JohnE> arthur_kalm: with emf you can generate from ecore
[20:10:38] <JohnE> you can use an ecore editor to visually design your model
[20:11:06] <JohnE> you can also annotate existing java model.
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[20:11:17] <JohnE> plese join #eclipse-modeling
[20:12:18] <arthur_kalm> JohnE, ah thank you.. but then, what is MDT?
[20:12:25] <arthur_kalm> I'll try eclipse-modeling
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[20:16:22] <jwisher> is there going to be a facelets plugin for eclipse?
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[20:18:52] <cyrus__> Anyone here have success setting up PHP ZendDebugger or Xdebug
[20:19:07] <cyrus__> I have downloaded the necessary files, updated my php.ini file and restarted apache
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[20:19:12] <cyrus__> but the debug session still fails to connect
[20:20:34] <cyrus__> anyone
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[20:21:06] <ian_mac> I use Xdebug
[20:21:13] <ian_mac> with phpeclipse
[20:21:16] <cyrus__> ian_mac - ok..I have tired Xdebug as well
[20:21:18] <cyrus__> but nothing
[20:21:27] <cyrus__> the port it is suppose to lsiten on never gets establish
[20:21:38] <ian_mac> can you see phpeclipse in your phpinfo?
[20:22:01] <ian_mac> sorry...
[20:22:10] <ian_mac> when you setup Xdebug, can you see it in your phpinfo?
[20:22:52] <cyrus__> no
[20:23:06] <cyrus__> neither do I see it when I setup ZendDebugger
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[20:47:03] <ian_mac> what platform cyrus__ ?
[20:49:44] <cyrus__> ian_mac - linux
[20:49:58] <ian_mac> what distro?
[20:51:17] <cyrus__> gentoo
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[20:51:44] <ian_mac> have you compiled xdebug yet?
[20:53:14] <cyrus__> ian_mac - yep
[20:53:27] <ian_mac> and you have your so file?
[20:53:39] <ian_mac> so what does your php.ini settings look like?
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[20:55:51] <winmutt> anyone in here use the remote system explorer interface?
[20:55:58] <winmutt> i cant connect via ssh to save my life
[20:56:05] <winmutt> keeps saying timout
[20:58:00] <cyrus__> ;xdebug_extension = /usr/lib/php5/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-zts-20060613/xdebu
[20:58:00] <cyrus__> g.so
[20:58:00] <cyrus__> ;xdebug.remote_enable = 1
[20:58:00] <cyrus__> ;xdebug.remote_handler = dbgp
[20:58:00] <cyrus__> ;xdebug.remote_mode = req
[20:58:00] <cyrus__> ;xdebug.remote_host = 127.0.0.1
[20:58:02] <cyrus__> ;xdebug.remote_port = 9001
[20:58:04] <cyrus__> without the ; in the front
[20:58:09] <cyrus__> I just have them disabled at the moment
[21:00:59] <winmutt> eh
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[21:13:10] <cyrus__> okay..I finally got a section in phpinfo for xdebug
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[21:14:40] <cyrus__> however eclipse still can not connect
[21:14:50] <cyrus__> the port xdebug is suppose to listen to is not open
[21:16:46] <arthur_kalm> hmm, this is strange, when I ask for code completion I get doubles of everything. Any ideas?
[21:17:54] <rcjsuen> arthur_kalm: Language?
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[21:20:07] <SmashCat> Hello, is there a way to kill a script that's stuck in a loop in Eclipse? I'm using Python, and the only method I've found that works is to kill Eclipse using the task manager (using Windows on my desktop)
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[21:20:59] <rcjsuen> well, unless you can find the Python process that's running
[21:21:03] <rcjsuen> that might work i guess
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[21:22:15] <SmashCat> Yeah, I looked, but all i can see is Eclipse running at 50% CPU - I have a dual-core, so it's pegged on one ;-)
[21:23:00] <SmashCat> Not a big deal, but just takes a while to fire up Eclipse. Thanks anyway
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[21:25:51] <ian_mac> cyrus__, are you using phpeclipse?
[21:28:07] <cyrus__> ian_mac - no..PDT
[21:29:31] <ian_mac> ok, sorry...  I don't use PDT, so I cant' help you further...
[21:29:39] <ian_mac> but at least now you have XDebug setup right...
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[21:30:07] <ian_mac> though if you are debugging remotely, you need remote debugging enabled...
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[21:33:14] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, sorry, was talkigng to boss
[21:33:19] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, it's Java
[21:33:46] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, so if I code complete a certain object, I get all it's methods but they repeat, so I'll have toString appear and then toString again right under it.
[21:34:10] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, and it's the exact same function
[21:34:21] <rcjsuen> might be
[21:34:30] <rcjsuen> an issue wiht Mylyn
[21:34:45] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, I'm not using MyLyn :(. Is there a way to disable it?
[21:35:02] <rcjsuen> Window > Find and Install > Manage and Configuration
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[21:38:11] <philk_> how can I force the workbench to not show the editor area if there is no editor open?
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[21:39:01] <rcjsuen> philk_: i think it either shows or it doesn't, you can disable it in your perspective
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[21:41:23] <philk_> rcjsuen: I have tried to implement a WorkbenchPartListener and check if there are editors open, and if not to hide the editor area, but it not always work
[21:41:48] <sintfix> I try to create an ejb module with eclipse 3.3.1.1 , I use both glassfishV2 and jboss4.2.2GA, project create wizard informs me -also requires- to use ejb2.1
[21:41:52] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, correct you were :)
[21:41:54] <sintfix> I want to use ejb3
[21:41:55] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, thank you
[21:42:17] <arthur_kalm> rcjsuen, but I wonder why... I would love to use MyLyn in some near future when I have time to learn it...
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[21:42:34] <sintfix> Also I am not able to create ejb entity classes with xdoclet ever use ejb2.1
[21:42:59] <sintfix> Can you tell me why this happens?
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[22:19:05] <winmutt> christ
[22:19:10] <winmutt> how do you turn on word wrap
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[22:24:00] <krbarnes> winmutt: see ~35779
[22:24:01] <KOS-MOS> See bug 35779 - [misc] Text Viewer and Editor needs to support word wrap - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=35779
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[22:51:59] <floating> hello. I am trying to run a helloworld in eclipse, but I get empty console window, and the info bar says <terminated> path to helloworld.exe
[22:52:10] <floating> c++ with cygwin
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[22:56:30] <floating> and i need help. I want the console window to show the "hello world" text as it is supposed to :(
[22:57:31] <floating> Select C/C++ Local Application.
[22:57:32] <floating> Click New.
[22:57:32] <floating> A new Run Configuration is created. Its name and path to the executable are provided by the project ('Hello World' in our case).
[22:57:35] <floating> Click Run.
[22:57:37] <floating> Now, you should see the Hello World application running in the Console view. The Console also shows which application is running in a title bar.
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[22:59:26] <floating> maybe my make is not working since the build says "nothing to be done for "all"
[22:59:56] <floating> i have installed cygwin and pointed to it when i chose the project in the begin or smth o_O
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[23:14:24] <weltio> Hello?
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[23:18:43] <winmutt> hello
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[23:18:51] <winmutt> eclipse is mindboggling
[23:19:03] <winmutt> no word wrap
[23:19:10] <winmutt> cant open a temp txt file
[23:19:36] <floating> where can i ask my problems with eclipse and c++ ?
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[23:19:40] <floating> i couldnt find a forum
[23:19:51] <winmutt> lol
[23:19:54] <floating> and no one here seems to be present or know an answer
[23:19:55] <winmutt> and no online support
[23:19:56] <winmutt> lol
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[23:30:25] <nitind> There's help.eclipse.org for all the user guides and references, articles on eclipse.org itself, and newsgroups on news.eclipse.org (login ID required)
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[23:34:05] <dominikg> winmutt, you get what you pay for.. if you need responsive support, buying a product that guarantees support may do the trick.
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[23:36:54] <robot_jesus> winmutt: wordwrap is available as a plugin, likely to be included next release, you can open a text file easily, not sure why you say that ?
[23:37:47] <dominikg> robot_jesus, can you back that up with some information/links?
[23:38:23] <winmutt> robot_jesus: the existing word wrap plugin blows as it wrap to col 1 not to the beg of the line
[23:39:10] <winmutt> robot_jesus: i dont want to open a txt file. i want to create one and not save it for temporary purposes such as editing sql queries or just cutting pasting into
[23:39:29] <winmutt> dominikg : it just seems like some basics were overlooked
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[23:40:50] <robot_jesus> winmutt: ahh i see, yea there is no *scratch* buffer
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[23:43:55] <floating> got my problem solved. i needed a cygwin1.dll in windows/system . eclipse didnt tell me this or warn me about it, but external run on the .exe kinda get me on tracks
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[23:44:12] <nitind> There an Untitled File option on the New menu.
[23:44:59] <nitind> is
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[23:47:35] <winmutt> nitind not in 3.3
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[23:50:11] <nitind> winmutt: Yes, in 3.3.
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[23:52:29] <winmutt> not in my version
[23:53:16] <winmutt> 3.3.1.1.
[23:54:38] <nitind> Maybe you need JDT installed, or open the New...Other wizard.
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[23:58:15] <winmutt> I have new other
[23:58:20] <winmutt> only one thing under it
[23:58:28] <winmutt> all i want is notepad lol
[23:58:29] <winmutt> sigh
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