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[00:37:16] <cyrus__> rhk - but when you go run as you can assign it which server to run on
[00:37:34] <cyrus__> rhk - i have tried that but it still doesn't seem to want to work
[00:38:25] <cyrus__> rhk - and if that is the case how do I test out PHP web applications through Eclipse
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[00:42:29] <rhk> personally, I've just used an instance of apache to test with, but I'm sure you're right that there is a way to get the internal http server in eclipse to do the job
[00:42:38] <rhk> it would certainly be more convenient
[00:43:02] <kyr> Anyone knows how to get opengl working together once CDT and SDL works fine to run? I get "/usr/bin/ld: Undefined symbols:" and several ogl calls
[00:43:58] <rhk> kyr: sounds like you're missing some libs on the link command.
[00:44:19] <kyr> aahh damn, any idea which?
[00:44:35] <rhk> what is your link command line right now?
[00:44:48] <rhk> it probably needs -lGL, at a minimum
[00:44:50] <kyr> I only put in the cocoa and sdl framework in linker stup
[00:45:11] <kyr> Okay I'll try that
[00:45:18] <rhk> possible more
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[00:47:29] <rhk> yay, I finally got osgi and http service to work. the description in the quickstart are missing a few bits.
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[01:17:23] <nitind> rhk: If you see things that should be added to or improved, open a bug report with your suggestions.
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[01:22:15] <rhk> nitind: I plan to. It's probably something obvious for people who are deeply involved with equinox, but I got snagged on the equinox server side quick start instructions because I didn't have the web files listed as exported in the build.
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[01:24:12] <ndee> hi there, which is the official update site for eclipse that I can add to my "find and install"-sites?
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[01:28:54] <kyr_> if I get the error "can't locate file for: -lGL, what have I missed?
[01:30:07] <nitind> libGL.so (or GL.dll) not being on the linker's library search path?
[01:31:55] <kyr_> how would that look like? Is it the exact path? ".../../libGL.so"
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[01:32:44] <rhk> you might need -L(libpath) as well, if libGL.so is not in the normal path. this is mac os?
[01:33:01] <kyr_> yes is is mac os
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[01:42:43] <rhk> hmm. I can't seem to find libGL.so on my mac
[01:43:12] <rhk> but it is not my primary computer, and I'm not terribly familiar with programming on it.
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[01:54:05] <kyr_> no actually I cant find it either so I'm trying to compile it soon, haha
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[01:55:02] <rhk> are you using xcode gcc?
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[01:55:52] <kyr_> well, I'm not sure actually, sorry.
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[02:07:35] <rhk> kyr_: you might want to ask in #sdl
[02:08:09] <kyr_> thanks for the tip! you've been very helpful
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[02:15:05] <ecfuser30114> test
[02:15:18] <d_a_carver> echo test
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[02:20:37] <ecfuser30114> :-)
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[04:50:57] <proof> hey guys eclipse = compiler?
[04:51:29] <rcjsuen> proof: Eclipse is a Java platform, Eclipse does not refer to a compiler.
[04:51:43] <rcjsuen> proof: Eclipse JDT includes its own Java compiler. But Eclipse != compiler.
[04:52:04] <proof> thanks
[04:53:19] <proof> i dunno if this is support or anything but im taking a simple programming course with java
[04:53:42] <proof> and eclipse is giving me some kinda syntax error when the code i have is correct
[04:53:45] <proof> so says my teacher
[04:53:52] <rcjsuen> proof: Pastebin it.
[04:53:57] <proof> k
[04:54:00] <rcjsuen> ~pastebin
[04:54:00] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[04:57:24] <proof> http://pastebin.com/m6267325a
[04:57:37] <proof> my teacher was using bluejay and windows
[04:57:45] <proof> but code should still be right
[04:57:51] <proof> im using linux and eclipse
[04:58:20] <rcjsuen> what's hhe error
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[04:58:26] <rcjsuen> what line
[04:59:39] <proof> line 30
[04:59:43] <proof> return type missing
[04:59:57] <proof> theres a few but i think its cause of that
[05:00:08] <proof> why would my teacher say that was write though?
[05:01:08] <rcjsuen> yes, it is wrong
[05:01:17] <rcjsuen> what did your teacher exactly say?
[05:01:22] <rcjsuen> is this copy/paste from his code?
[05:01:58] <proof> no i coppied in class but he reviewed
[05:02:13] <rcjsuen> So he looked at your code and said it looks fine?
[05:02:26] <rcjsuen> You did not compile this in class?
[05:02:41] <rcjsuen> I will give you a hint, look at the name of your class and the name of your constructor.
[05:02:47] <proof> it was not giving me that error though
[05:02:49] <rcjsuen> If you can't figure it out in the next five minutes or so, tell me.
[05:03:09] <proof> it was complaining about me needing newer platform or version compiler to use autoboxing
[05:03:16] <proof> but i had the newer version
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[05:03:31] <rcjsuen> the current error has nothing to do with Java version AFAIk
[05:03:56] <proof> yea thats wierd
[05:04:13] <proof> well it was when i was in class :)
[05:06:39] <proof> oh ok wasnt on that lin i found the error i didnt understand
[05:07:24] <rcjsuen> Well, you do have an error on line 30 though.
[05:09:27] <proof> Severity and Description Path Resource Location Creation Time Id
[05:09:28] <proof> Syntax error, parameterized types are only available if source level is 5.0 Dataset Dataset.java line 21 1201249339007 1
[05:09:52] <proof> there was what he coudlknt figuer out
[05:10:06] <proof> im not really sure what it means
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[05:12:29] <rcjsuen> proof: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_change_the_compiler_compliance_level_for_my_workspace.3F
[05:13:29] <proof> oh thanks :) i thought i was gonna have to compile differant packages
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[05:20:08] <proof> !
[05:20:23] <nitind> ?
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[05:22:40] <rcjsuen> hm
[05:22:54] <rcjsuen> You're pretty good with that question mark.
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[05:39:29] <nitind> I have mad ? skillz.
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[06:43:31] <LOGAN> hello. I never used eclipse. is there a good recource for first time users?
[06:45:44] <LOGAN> I heard eclypse could be used for Flash developement. Not sure why version to choose. (Why are there different versions?)
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[07:03:02] <Eckos> is there a way to use visual studio instead of mingw/cygwin for CDT?
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[07:09:16] * LOGAN cries
[07:09:24] <Eckos> ?
[07:09:25] <LOGAN> I dont know what download
[07:09:30] <LOGAN> I need
[07:09:37] <Eckos> what u want
[07:09:38] <LOGAN> and all are asleep it seems
[07:09:47] <Eckos> ill try 2 help
[07:09:47] <LOGAN> hello. I never used eclipse. is there a good recource for first time users?
[07:09:52] <LOGAN> I heard eclypse could be used for Flash developement. Not sure why version to choose. (Why are there different versions?)
[07:10:06] <Eckos> i never heard that
[07:10:15] <LOGAN> well I did
[07:10:27] <LOGAN> and theres like 6 versions to download :)
[07:10:36] <Eckos> link
[07:10:56] <LOGAN> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
[07:10:57] <LOGAN> ?
[07:11:04] <LOGAN> ok 5 versions
[07:11:46] <Eckos> http://osflash.org/eclipse
[07:12:05] <LOGAN> when I checked last time there was only one eclipse version so no confusion what to download
[07:12:51] <Eckos> http://asdt.org/
[07:13:00] <Eckos> just get the classic
[07:13:06] <Eckos> go to that site http://asdt.org/
[07:13:34] <Eckos> http://mb0.org/asdt/wiki/GuideInstalling008
[07:13:40] <LOGAN> hmm but isnt that an old version?
[07:13:42] <Eckos> there u go
[07:13:47] <LOGAN> thanks
[07:13:47] <Eckos> iono
[07:13:50] <Eckos> i don't do flash
[07:14:09] <LOGAN> well i better ask some flash devs and java devs
[07:14:25] <LOGAN> (or just get the official IDE)
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[07:15:32] <LOGAN> this seems much to confusing for me lol.
[07:15:49] <Eckos> just get the offical
[07:15:54] <Eckos> imho
[07:16:45] <LOGAN> I have flash MX 2004 pro
[07:17:15] <LOGAN> but wanted to try some open source 3D engine for flash but I cant load it because its newer version
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[07:46:09] <rrrobert> i have install the eclipse 3.3 on windows, the new class creation button is disabled.. Any suggestions?
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[07:46:37] <blahdeblah> Hi. I've been getting errors like this a bit lately: http://rafb.net/p/xv9ONM18.html
[07:46:52] <blahdeblah> Do i need to increase the JVM RAM allocated to Eclipse? If so, how.
[07:46:53] <blahdeblah> ?
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[07:47:53] <rrrobert> blahdeblah, ./eclipse -vmargs -Xmx1000m
[07:48:09] <rrrobert> use the above command to allocate more space to eclipse
[07:48:41] <blahdeblah> rrrobert: Cool - thanks
[07:48:59] <rrrobert> wc
[07:49:43] <blahdeblah> Are there recommended minimums? I'm pretty sure Eclipse is allocating 512 MB by default.
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[08:05:05] <nitind> rrrobert: Did you get the right download and are you running it with a recent enough JRE?
[08:06:15] <rrrobert> nitind, i have installed the 1.5 jdk.
[08:06:31] <nitind> rrrobert: And you're certain that's what it's running on?
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[08:08:01] <rrrobert> nitind, it is running on jdk 5. i have checked the java -version
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[08:14:43] <nitind> rrrobert: Actually I meant checking it within Eclipse itself, such as the About dialog's configuration details dump.
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[08:15:53] <blahdeblah> Have you ever noticed that words like View and Field look really _stupid_ if you look at them for long enough? :-)
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[08:17:56] <nitind> No, can't say that I have.
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[10:35:46] <klopfdreh> hello, I've a little question about string internalisation. I can configure the view names and so on in the plugin.xml with the % notation, but whats about the dialogs - the preferences-dialog
[10:36:16] <klopfdreh> even if I set the locale to DE oder EN the dialog buttons still appears in english with OK and Cancel
[10:36:47] <klopfdreh> are there some language packs which I can include in my project so that they are going to be exported with my product?
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[10:39:25] <nitind> Not for 3.3. For earlier releases, sure.
[10:40:26] <klopfdreh> Im using eclipse 3.2
[10:40:29] <klopfdreh> :DDD
[10:40:50] <klopfdreh> so where I have to find the fragment which I have to include for getting german language support for the dialogs
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[10:41:36] <nitind> klopfdreh: The download page, http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/, points to them at the bottom.
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[10:43:54] <klopfdreh> great
[10:43:55] <klopfdreh> thanks
[10:44:49] <klopfdreh> nitind, are there any problems when I use Eclipse 3.2.2 insted of 3.2.1 displayed there
[10:45:53] <klopfdreh> sorry for asking XD - I will go on with reading the instructions ;)
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[11:01:25] <njbartlett> blahdeblah: If you're still there, the issue you're having cannot be solved with the simple -Xmx flag
[11:01:54] <njbartlett> ~tell blahdeblah about permgen
[11:01:55] <KOS-MOS> blahdeblah: Having permgen problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
[11:06:43] <blahdeblah> njbartlett: Interesting
[11:06:54] <blahdeblah> I'm using 3.2 on Linux AMD64
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[11:07:27] <blahdeblah> I found 3.3.1.1 significantly less stable than 3.2, so i downgraded
[11:07:55] <njbartlett> blahdeblah: Yeah there have been some problems with 3.3 on Macs as well. I actually find the 3.4 milestones more stable.
[11:08:27] <aravi> Anyone here familiar with the Sysdeo Tomcat plugin for eclipse. I'm using it to develop a web app, but when I try to create a WEB-INF/classes folder, the folder simply doesn't appear under WEB-INF. It's there if I look in the filesystem but it doesn't show up in eclipse?
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[11:09:49] <blahdeblah> njbartlett: Is it something i can mitigate, or am i better just waiting for 3.4 to be released? The only reason i tried upgrading was that i realised that i hadn't upgraded to a new minor release in 10 months or so, and i didn't want to get too far behind. My requirements are pretty simple.
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[11:10:59] <njbartlett> blahdeblah: I would encourage you to use 3.4 M4. It's really very stable, and it has a number of functionality improvements over 3.2
[11:11:53] <blahdeblah> njbartlett: OK - will check it out. Any ideas how far away from a 3.4 release we are?
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[11:12:05] <njbartlett> blahdeblah: End of June
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[11:12:16] <njbartlett> blahdeblah: It's the same every year
[11:12:21] <blahdeblah> OK
[11:12:24] <blahdeblah> thanks for your help
[11:14:23] <njbartlett> No problem
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[11:25:52] <klopfdreh> args eclipse in german is !"§$%&/()
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[11:47:08] <legolas> Hi
[11:47:20] <legolas> What should I download in order to develop J2Me applications?
[11:49:08] <legolas> Any one?
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[13:54:47] <dangerous_dave> hi all, just wondering if there is a way to add customised code snippets into the intellisense of eclipse
[13:56:11] <Carnage\> dangerous_dave: Sure, search for "templates" in the preferences
[13:56:18] <dangerous_dave> cheers
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[14:41:41] <Erik1> I have this blue button in the lower right that says 'Ctrl contrib (Bottom)' . what is it ?
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[14:54:24] <paulweb515> Erik1: it's coming from one of the org.eclipse.ui.examples plugins ... probably contributions
[14:54:45] <LordMetroid> I installed Eclipse C/C++ IDE yersterday and recalled today that it is a better idea to code my upcomming software in Java. Do I need to install Eclipse yet again or can I complement or what do I do to get Eclipse for both Java and C/C++ ?
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[14:58:11] <timothym> LordMetroid: Help > Softare updates > Find and Install... you can get the Java support from there
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[14:58:48] <LordMetroid> Thank you
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[15:00:29] <GEM|N|> Hej
[15:00:51] <GEM|N|> Några svenskar här?
[15:04:08] <LordMetroid> jora
[15:04:09] <njbartlett> GEM|N|: There are some Swedish speaker online occasionally, yes. But if you have a question, you're more likely to get an answer if you ask it in English :-)
[15:04:18] <GEM|N|> Hhe
[15:04:42] <LordMetroid> I agree, not speaking English is rude...
[15:05:00] <GEM|N|> I need to get in touch with a swedish company that have exchanged their existing developing enivorement to Eclipse...
[15:05:23] <njbartlett> Oh I don't think it's rude. Just less useful at getting results :-)
[15:05:29] <GEM|N|> Sorry for that swedish crap. ;-)
[15:07:28] <njbartlett> GEM|N|: Hey at least you have a choice of languages to speak. Us Brits and Yanks are stuck with just the one
[15:07:52] <GEM|N|> Njbartlett: True. True.
[15:08:16] <GEM|N|> i have no excuses...
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[15:14:30] <LordMetroid> njbartlett: No one is stuck, you just need to learn yourself more languages
[15:15:17] <njbartlett> LordMetroid: True. ?????????
[15:15:49] <Erik1> paulweb515: thnx. found cause.
[15:15:56] <LordMetroid> I can converse in Japanese, though I was better two years ago when it was freshly used.
[15:16:28] <LordMetroid> I don't have any Japanese support installed on my laptop though
[15:18:27] <LordMetroid> nihongo wakaru hito ha nan no imi desu ka?
[15:18:49] <LordMetroid> *s/nan/anata
[15:19:31] <LordMetroid> nahh *s/nan no/dou iu
[15:19:41] <LordMetroid> I dunno what to say
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[15:20:07] <bobbytek2> is there a trick to easily view a map in the debugger?
[15:21:34] <njbartlett> bobbytek2: Yeah there's these things called logical structures... they should be turned on by default but I think it's a relatively new feature. What version of Eclipse are you using?
[15:23:08] <njbartlett> bobbytek2: Ah you also have to turn on a toggle button on the view toolbar. If you look at the row of buttons on the "Variable" view, click the second one. It should say "Show Logical Structure" when you hover your mouse over it
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[15:36:58] <rcjsuen> Speaking in tongues now are
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[15:43:15] <LordMetroid> njbartlett: What did you mean with "?????????" It is only half a sentence!
[15:43:42] <njbartlett> LordMetroid: Yup. Since when do Japanese people use whole sentences? ;-)
[15:43:53] <LordMetroid> hehe...
[15:43:55] <njbartlett> LordMetroid: In this case it means "are there any Japanese speaking people?"
[15:44:04] <StaZ|Work> Hello guys, i'm using Zend Neon, which is supposely built over eclipse, and i'm wondering where i can find the mouse bindings, there's a functionnality that i'd like to bind to a key but i don't find the good binding : in html/xhtml if you click 5 times on a word it will select the text between the 2 html entities... i try to bind this to a key
[15:44:50] <StaZ|Work> (also works in xml)
[15:45:20] <njbartlett> 5 times?? Your poor mouse :-)
[15:46:01] <njbartlett> Unfortunately I don't think Eclipse has any general concept of mouse bindings. It sounds like Zend have simply implemented a custom listener for 5 mouse clicks on their editor
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[15:48:19] <philk__> hello! How can I get the name (ID) of the currently running Application inside IApplication.start() ? I seems I have no access to the application id using the given context
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[15:50:15] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: Really? I got lost in that sentence because of 'imi'. And of course, all those s/ made it complicated. ;)
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[15:50:38] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Ah, that was LordMetroid's sentence, not mine :-)
[15:50:54] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: Well, but that was your translation. ;)
[15:51:12] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: Perhaps my real question is, what did you translate imi as
[15:51:23] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: I didn't translate imi
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[15:51:46] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: I also got confused with all those s/
[15:52:00] <StaZ|Work> njbartlett, well 5 click is still better than shift+control+arrow til the end of the tag :P
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[15:52:56] <philk__> how do I do a refresh of the command handler service when I want it to perfom a re-evaluation of an expression to enable/disable a certain command/menu?
[15:53:06] <rcjsuen> I think I get what's being said after rereading it a few times properly.
[15:53:10] <LordMetroid> I got confused because I didn't remember a Swede entering and asking if there was any Swedes in.
[15:53:26] <StaZ|Work> but the third click selects the current row, and if it's larger than the view port, it will horizontally scroll to the beginning of the line and restart the click sequence :P that's why i wanted a binding, but other than that do you know a way to do that? example <tag>blah blah blah</tag> select the "blah blah blah"
[15:53:27] <LordMetroid> So I didn't know what the context was you were asking in
[15:53:37] <LordMetroid> So I tried to ask... I should just have written
[15:53:51] <LordMetroid> ????????... Nani?
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[15:54:48] <rcjsuen> philk__: Can't you get it from the IApplicationContext?
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[15:55:31] <philk__> rcjsuen: nope... IApplicationContext does not seem to offer any method to fetch it.
[15:55:40] <leodamasceno_> Alguém que fale português, e que possa me ajudar a fazer com que meu package explorer mostre a hierarquia ARVORE?
[15:56:13] <rcjsuen> philk__: I guess the branding id isn't what you want?
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[15:56:57] <philk__> rcjsuen: thought getting it from the arguments list, but its not included there. I am running a product and use the branding (product) id for now, but this could be, according to the docs, null. Which of course is not an option, I need a valid name to create a file for it.
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[16:06:42] <rcjsuen> Ians: http://www.eclipse.org/community/news/eclipseinthenews.php the first piece of news is just a link, a title would be better I think? not sure if you handle this page
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[16:07:41] <Ians> I agree, I will try to get it fixed
[16:07:56] <rcjsuen> thx
[16:08:11] <rcjsuen> Ians: It is also like that on www.eclipse.org directly, but I'm guessing the two pages are connected anyway.
[16:08:27] <rcjsuen> philk__: for your command problem, you should talk to paulweb515
[16:08:32] <Ians> they are connected; it is based on an rss feed
[16:08:34] <rcjsuen> leodamasceno_: Do you speak English?
[16:08:37] <rcjsuen> fig's
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[16:08:57] <njbartlett> philk__: I think there's a way, using the OSGi Application Admin interface. How well do you know OSGi?
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[16:10:13] <paulweb515> philk__: for declarative commands their enabled state is re-evaluated when their core expression changes
[16:11:01] <rcjsuen> Of course it's an rss feed, there's an rss icon right there. ;)
[16:11:01] <philk__> njbartlett: Know it pretty goot now I think... thanks to your article :)
[16:11:37] <philk__> paulweb515: how can I inititate a core expression change? Say I have changed the models state and want the toolbar to update.
[16:11:54] <njbartlett> philk__: When Eclipse starts an application, it registers an instance of ApplicationHandle with the service registry. If you can search for a service of that type with the property "application.state=RUNNING" then the property "application.descriptor" will give you the app ID
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[16:12:26] <paulweb515> philk__: and you're using property testers? Or is it your own AbstractHandler isEnabled() method that changes?
[16:12:28] <philk__> njbartlett: thats wonderful! Will try it
[16:12:40] <philk__> paulweb515: using property testers
[16:13:15] <philk__> njbartlett: and its guaranteed that only one app is running in the eclipse RCP context, isn't it?
[16:13:18] <paulweb515> in 3.3 there's no way to do that ... in 3.4 we're adding the ability to tell the service "propertyX changed, re-evaluate the expressions"
[16:14:32] <njbartlett> philk__: Hmm not necessarily. Probably it will be the only one. TBH I'm not sure.
[16:14:41] <philk__> paulwe515: is this feature already in a nighty build?
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[16:15:18] <njbartlett> philk__: Oh for one thing, if it's an RCP app then it must have "eclipse.application.type=main.thread". And there can only be one app on the main thread
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[16:16:13] <philk__> njbartlett: its RCP yes... ok I will try this. I am implementing a file mutex to ensure you start a RCP app only once.
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[16:17:14] <njbartlett> philk__: Ah, you mean preventing other instances on the same machine? Because equinox will ensure there are no other instances within the same VM already
[16:19:05] <philk__> njbartlett: inside the same VM is of no use for me here. The user clicks 3 times on the exe and starts 3 instances. I want to prevent that. It works using my file mutex very well. Just wanted to give the file a meaningfull name and thought of the Apps ID :)
[16:19:41] <philk__> njbartlett: so its "eclipse.application.type=main.thread" but "application.state=RUNNING" not "eclipse.application.state=RUNNING"?
[16:19:51] <paulweb515> philk__: no, I had hoped to get it into 3.4M5 (which is 2 weeks away) but it is unlikely ... so it probably won't show up for at least 3 weeks.
[16:20:15] <LabMonkey> how do I tell eclipse what shell to use for performing build tasks?
[16:20:16] <njbartlett> philk__: Yeah understood
[16:20:48] <njbartlett> philk__: Yes, because "application.state" is a property defined in the OSGi spec but "eclipse.application.type" is an eclipse-specific extension
[16:20:55] <rcjsuen> LabMonkey: Eh?
[16:20:56] <philk__> paulweb515: thanks for clearing that up. I will keep an eye on that. Do you have a bug-id for that maybe?
[16:21:03] <rcjsuen> LabMonkey: Most people use jobs for that I would imagine.
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[16:21:51] <LabMonkey> rcjsuen: well I'm using the autotools cdt plugin which works fine on linux, but when I try to use it on windows with mingw32/msys, it wants to launch my autogen.sh and configure scripts with cmd.exe instead of sh.exe
[16:22:21] <bobbytek2> njbartlett: thanks! I'll give that a go. I'm using 3.3.1.1 i believe
[16:22:44] <ChrisRecoskie> rcjsuen, LabMonkey: I'll ping overholt and see if he can help
[16:22:57] <LabMonkey> ChrisRecoskie: thanks, I'm in #fedora-java too
[16:22:58] <rcjsuen> LabMonkey: Oh, I thought you were tlaking about an SWT Shell.
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[16:23:31] <LabMonkey> rcjsuen: nah, just the builder configuration really
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[16:23:57] <LabMonkey> I think the real problem is that built-in builders aren't adjustable
[16:24:24] <paulweb515> philk__: yes, just a sec
[16:24:30] <LabMonkey> so I can't configure the gnu autotools builder to use c:\msys\1.0
[16:24:32] <LabMonkey> err
[16:24:32] <overholt> ChrisRecoskie says someone has a question about the autotools plugin? jjohnstn (author) isn't around, but I *may* be able to help
[16:24:41] <LabMonkey> so I can't configure the gnu autotools builder to use c:\msys\1.0\bin\sh.exe as it's command launcher
[16:24:44] <philk__> njbartlett: I will try it now :) thanks
[16:25:07] <overholt> LabMonkey: jjohnstn and someone else have been working on this. they supposedly have it fixed.
[16:25:16] <overholt> LabMonkey: email jjohnstn at redhat dot com and ask him about it
[16:25:17] <paulweb515> philk__: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=199454 ... adding a property updating mechanism would be part of the solution to this bug (although we'll probably add a perspective variable anyway)
[16:25:22] <ChrisRecoskie> overholt: is there a new plugin available?
[16:25:23] <skka> anyone can help me out regarding plugin development / matching brackets in TextEditor ?
[16:25:25] <LabMonkey> overholt: will do, thanks much!
[16:25:30] <overholt> ChrisRecoskie: I don't know
[16:25:43] <overholt> ChrisRecoskie: I think Jeff may have a build or two somewhere ...
[16:25:58] <ChrisRecoskie> overholt: thanks for your help
[16:26:06] <overholt> ChrisRecoskie: np
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[16:28:38] <j4ybuntux> how to add the eclipse openPerspectiv/showView features (from menuitem window) to my custom rcp-application?
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[16:30:59] <philk__> paulweb515: thanks
[16:31:00] <paulweb515> j4ybuntux: There should be a ContributionFactory similar to the ActionFactory
[16:31:25] <paulweb515> skka: Can the text editor do that? The java editor can
[16:31:35] <paulweb515> skka: you want to know how it's done?
[16:33:13] <j4ybuntux> i'll search for this.. thanks
[16:33:46] <skka> yes, i override configureSourceViewerDecorationSupport, and set a defaultcharacterpairmatcher there, like i saw in the cdt sources. but it actually doesn't work.
[16:36:14] <nitind> skka: Did you also call org.eclipse.ui.texteditor.SourceViewerDecorationSupport.setMatchingCharacterPainterPreferenceKeys(String, String) to set up their painting?
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[16:38:32] <skka> nitind, hm yes, but to be honest i didn't implement a checkbox in the preferences for that.
[16:39:32] <skka> nitind, so this is cruicial.. yes?
[16:39:51] <skka> crucial i mean, sorry
[16:40:33] <philk__> paulweb515: the expression reevaluation works if the selection provider changes, right? Maybe I could just simulate a selection provider refresh? My editor input should be added to the current selection anyway
[16:41:54] <philk__> njbartlett: calling the filter (&(application.state=RUNNING)(eclipse.application.type=main.thread)) from the IApplication.start does not seem to work, since the app is not running, but starting, right?
[16:43:34] <nitind> skka: I believe so, or at least those values need to exist and be set in the preference store your editor uses.
[16:44:06] <paulweb515> philk__: if the global selection changes, then any expression that uses the default variable or the "selection" variable will get updated
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[16:45:11] <philk__> paulweb515: so I will update the global selection then, lets see if that works as a workaround until this refresh feature is implemented.
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[16:46:00] <njbartlett> philk__: Ah, I'm not sure if it goes through some transitional starting state. Maybe take a look at all the instances of ApplicationHandle you can find, and see what state they're in. There will probably only be one, anyway.
[16:46:44] <skka> nitind, they exist, i'll try adding them to the preference page.
[16:46:57] <philk__> ok, njbartlett, I will check them step by step :)
[16:47:38] <njbartlett> philk__: Sorry I can't be more specific. But if you get to see one by looking at it manually, then you'll know what to search for
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[16:49:08] <philk__> njbartlett: I will command&conquer :) thanks for the help
[16:49:26] <njbartlett> Hehe. That's the spirit :-)
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[16:51:00] <philk__> njbartlett: where do I find the constants for application.state? It says its "0".
[16:52:58] <njbartlett> philk__: Just checking...
[16:54:05] <njbartlett> philk__: org.osgi.service.application.ApplicationHandle.APPLICATION_STATE
[16:54:12] <philk__> njbartlett: hmm... EclipseAppHandle is an internal class and defines FLAG_STARTING as 1
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[16:55:22] <philk__> njbartlett: yes, thats the name of the property... but the value is said to be 1, but the constant for that is only declared in internal class EclipseAppHandle
[16:56:12] <njbartlett> philk__: Hmm, interesting. The spec doesn't define any values except RUNNING and STOPPING
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[16:57:03] <philk__> njbartlett: ah the value is "org.eclipse.equinox.app.starting"
[16:57:09] <njbartlett> philk__: Thinking about it... you probably don't need to check the state. Just the existence of the handle should be enough
[16:57:33] <philk__> njbartlett: ok :)
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[17:00:01] <skka> nitind, i also added the values to my preference page. still no luck, still no matching brackets. :/
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[17:04:31] <philk__> njbartlett: works great. Checking state anyway :)
[17:05:04] <philk__> njbartlett: interesting that the app does not have a name (in OSGi). Only the product gives the app a name... not sure why that is
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[17:05:18] <njbartlett> philk__: Yeah I noticed that too
[17:06:05] <njbartlett> philk__: BTW, you probably don't need this yourself, but maybe you want to tell your friends/colleagues about it... I'm doing a "Getting Started with OSGi" webinar on Eclipse Live tomorrow
[17:06:08] <njbartlett> http://live.eclipse.org/node/407
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[17:06:46] <philk__> njbartlett: I will attend probably, or see the recording of it. Its more like 101 of OSGi or something more deep?
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[17:07:18] <njbartlett> Yeah, introductory. If you could write the code to gind the ApplicationHandle service and get properties from it, you don't need to attend :-)
[17:08:46] <philk__> njbartlett: uhmmm I just registered :) The code is written and working.
[17:09:19] <njbartlett> Cool
[17:10:45] <philk__> njbartlett: but i have another question. Lets say I have a service that connects to a database and is implemented in its own bundle. How can I ensure this service is started when someone needs it? I see the only way is to configure the start config.ini, or are there other ways? I know that I can activate the bundle by referencing a class from it, but I want to keep the dependencies between bundles as low as possible.
[17:11:40] <njbartlett> philk__: Yeah putting it in config.ini is probably the best way. Relying on referencing a class is really hacky, and it only works on Equinox due to the Eclipse-LazyStart extension
[17:12:30] <philk__> njbartlett: would dynamic services be the way to go, if I do not want to modify config.ini (which is not nicely supported by PDE)
[17:12:54] <njbartlett> philk__: Do you mean declarative services?
[17:13:19] <philk__> njbartlett: of course, thats what I was meaning
[17:13:58] <njbartlett> philk__: Yeah that's another possibility. Of course, you still need the DS bundle to be activated.
[17:14:27] <njbartlett> philk__: Something has to go in config.ini, ultimately. If you use DS, then you can just put one thing in there rather than potentially lots.
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[17:17:31] <philk__> njbartlett: ah well, the DS bundle does not get activated by equinox? Have to check that out.
[17:17:51] <njbartlett> philk__: Nothing gets activated by equinox, unless you tell it in config.ini
[17:19:04] <philk__> njbartlett: i see. So it comes down to taking an excisting config.ini and add the server access bundle or DS. Thats possible to do :)
[17:19:34] <njbartlett> Exactly
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[17:21:28] <cichlasoma> hi. i'm not able to open a project i created on another computer... could anybody help me?
[17:23:33] <dale_1> i think you maybe have to say a little more about what 'unable to open...' means
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[17:30:43] <kaylee> hey, is this an appropriate place to get assistance with the EPIC plugin and eclipse?
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[17:31:19] <cichlasoma> well, i simply copied the whole project directory into the current workspace directory, yet i cannot get any access to the project. (newbie, have a patience, please...)
[17:31:45] <dale_1> that one is easy
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[17:31:59] <dale_1> just use the new project wizard, choose simple project...
[17:32:14] <dale_1> specify the same name as the project directory and you're done.
[17:32:39] <dale_1> it should pick up all the natures and the rest from the files in the project
[17:34:15] <jacekp__> cichlasoma: or next time use File -> Import -> Existing Projects into workspace and point to dir. with your projects (eg. another workspace)
[17:35:30] <cichlasoma> dale_1: sounds great! yet, i'm not allowed to create the project & get "A resource with the project name already exists in the workspace root"
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[17:39:56] <cichlasoma> jacekp__: great! works! (i've tried it myself before, but didn't find the "Exixting Project" optio in the "General" submenu...
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[17:54:38] <RobStone> Could someone possibly point me to any sort of documentation about developing custom mylyn connectors?
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[17:58:17] <overholt> RobStone: here, maybe? http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/Mylyn_Integrator_Reference
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[18:01:01] <RobStone> I read that one over. I suppose that's about as comprehensive as I should have expected, though it still falls short of what I was looking for.
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[18:53:07] <philk__> how can I declare a handler that is only active when a the active part adapts to a certain object class? I tried "with activePart" adapt, but it does not trigger
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[19:22:38] <neclimdul> is there a way to exclude directories from being used in the workspace building process?
[19:23:09] <riishigh> inside a source directory?
[19:23:50] <neclimdul> i have a project on a network share that is a subversion checkout and runing through the .svn directories takes all day.
[19:24:17] <neclimdul> yeah, source directory
[19:24:43] <riishigh> you can add an exclude directive
[19:25:08] <neclimdul> where do i do that?
[19:25:33] <riishigh> in the build path
[19:25:51] <riishigh> You can probably do something better...
[19:26:02] <riishigh> I've never had that problem though, must be a big project
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[19:26:28] <neclimdul> sort of. its also actually on a remote server so the latency is fairly high
[19:26:35] <riishigh> ah
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[19:26:59] <riishigh> Workproject of 1M lines does not have that problem at all
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[19:27:21] <jonathan-br> hello
[19:27:45] <neclimdul> you could blame pdt too if you want. it does like 6 different validations on every file
[19:28:12] <jonathan-br> could someone helpme?
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[19:29:03] <riishigh> Ah yea - this is pure java + jee stuff
[19:29:20] <riishigh> no rcp stuff yet
[19:30:04] <jonathan-br> everytime i open a file, the windows download dialog popup, its driving me crazy!!!
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[19:32:12] <jonathan-br> ok, i give up
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[19:32:50] <neclimdul> too bad, i was going to give you an answer in a sec
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[19:33:22] <neclimdul> riishigh: where would i add that exclude directive?
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[19:39:08] <BudgetDedicated> Hi, I'm working on a large (php) project that has a few subdirs that I do not want included in my project. One of those dirs contains about 50K files and eclipse takes ages to scan that directory. How do I tell eclipse to ignore certain subdirs of a project ?
[19:40:09] <neclimdul> wow... sounds familiar...
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[19:40:33] <riishigh> sorry was inside the vpn window.... For each source folder you can add stuff to the "Excluded" list
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[19:41:06] <riishigh> Go to Java Build Path and select the source tab and unfold the source dir trees
[19:43:07] <riishigh> Or perhaps go into preferences and add .svn to the Java/Compiler/Building -> Filtered Resources.... might also work
[19:44:06] <BudgetDedicated> riishigh: If that was for me, the problem is that i'm not using java
[19:44:34] <riishigh> no that was not for you... I have NO idea how to do stuff in php :)
[19:44:47] <riishigh> My guess is that php has something similar.
[19:44:58] <neclimdul> it doesn't, that's my problem too. its php.
[19:45:07] <riishigh> oh :)
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[19:45:15] <riishigh> php sucks :)
[19:45:18] <neclimdul> or if it does, i can't find it
[19:45:20] <riishigh> *duck*
[19:46:02] <riishigh> you didn't say did you?
[19:46:35] <neclimdul> i mentioned PDT (php development tools)
[19:46:57] <BudgetDedicated> neclimdul: I'm using phpeclipse
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[19:47:21] <riishigh> oh right - I read that as pde
[19:47:29] <riishigh> must get better glasses
[19:47:41] <neclimdul> :-D
[19:48:40] <neclimdul> BudgetDedicated: what i did to get around it was turn off all the validators. don't know if your options will be the same.
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[19:48:59] <mohbana> i am using eclipse on fedora8 with the icedtea jdk, how come i don't get api docunmentation when i hover over a method
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[19:49:51] <BudgetDedicated> neclimdul: I like the validators
[19:50:19] <BudgetDedicated> I just do not want them to scan 50K of text files with session data etc
[19:50:33] <neclimdul> BudgetDedicated: i do too, but i can't wait 24hrs for eclipse to crash and still not be able to see the validation
[19:50:42] <BudgetDedicated> true
[19:51:10] * neclimdul shrugs
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[19:52:07] <neclimdul> another side complaint, why does canceling building workspace mean wait till its done building the workspace and then not do anything instead of stoping the build...
[19:52:23] <BudgetDedicated> neclimdul: what I do now is that I make a 'fake' project folder that contains bindmounts of the dirs in the actual folders
[19:52:41] <BudgetDedicated> and leave the folders I do not want out
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[19:52:57] <neclimdul> that works
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[19:53:15] <neclimdul> not for me, but its something :)
[19:53:27] <BudgetDedicated> why not for you ? on windows?
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[19:53:32] <neclimdul> anyways, thanks for the help. i'll just make a bug for it
[19:54:05] <neclimdul> no, linux but its a remote share and i need all the folders. the files i'm trying to exclude are the .svn directories.
[19:54:49] <BudgetDedicated> ssh access ?
[19:55:01] <neclimdul> yeah
[19:55:15] <BudgetDedicated> than you have exactly my situation ;)
[19:55:19] <BudgetDedicated> look at sshfs
[19:55:51] <neclimdul> that's what i'm using. the problem is the .svn directories are in every folder. unless sshfs can filter directories for me i'm out of luck
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[19:56:45] <BudgetDedicated> What I did was create a script that I run before coding that mounts the remote folder to local using sshfs. I than scans the folder for dirs and bindmounts them into my fake project folder.
[19:56:53] <BudgetDedicated> I think you can do the same
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[19:58:41] <neclimdul> actually, that does give me an odd idea...
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[20:00:23] <BudgetDedicated> neclimdul: there are more ways to create a workaround, mine is probably not the best. If you get a better idea please share
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[20:02:21] <neclimdul> its a bit convoluted so i don't think i'll share :P
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[20:06:37] <Zerone> ello :)
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[20:10:36] <notgod> Hello. I am using Eclipse with the PDT extension, and I am trying to get it to copy files (either to a remote server via sftp or to a locally mounted filesystem) -- and I haven't found a suitable option yet. Has anyone here done any such thing? Maybe an ant build script, or some sort of plugin that does this type of operation?
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[20:14:17] <paulweb515> ~tm
[20:14:17] <KOS-MOS> Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
[20:14:26] <paulweb515> notgod: that has an sftp plugin
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[20:55:33] <sc445> Can anybody help with problem with source bundle?
[20:55:52] <rcjsuen> sc445: Describing the problem will heighten the chances.
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[20:56:45] <sc445> Ok, I have created source bundle with right extensions and src.zip file but still PDE doesn't properly resolve it.
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[20:57:15] <paukul> hi, anyone knows how content assist in eclipse under mac osx can be accessed? strg + space doesn't work for me and cant find any hints from google
[20:57:34] <njbartlett> paukul: Ctrl-Space
[20:57:40] <rcjsuen> ~tell paukul about keys
[20:57:40] <KOS-MOS> paukul: For a list of available key bindings press Ctrl + Shift + L. To configure your key bindings, see Window > Preference > General > Keys. See also http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#What.27s_the_key_for_....3F
[20:57:44] <rcjsuen> ~key
[20:57:51] <rcjsuen> ~keys
[20:57:51] <rcjsuen> uh-oh
[20:57:51] <KOS-MOS> For a list of available key bindings press Ctrl + Shift + L. To configure your key bindings, see Window > Preference > General > Keys. See also http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#What.27s_the_key_for_....3F
[20:57:54] <rcjsuen> oh there we go
[20:58:04] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Actually that's wrong on a Mac
[20:58:05] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+. or Ctrl+, is supposed to work I've heard.
[20:58:07] <paukul> ctrl + space opens a search field here =/
[20:58:33] <njbartlett> paukul: You mean spotlight? That should be mapped to Cmd-Space
[20:58:42] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: You mean c/a/L doesn't work on a Mac? I figured.
[20:59:00] <sc445> I am trying to create source bundle for springframework dm 1.0
[20:59:01] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Indeed. Most Ctrl-something sequences are mapped to Cmd-something on Mac
[20:59:13] <paukul> neighter ctrl+, nor ctrl+. work
[20:59:17] <paukul> neither
[20:59:18] <rcjsuen> Maybe the question is
[20:59:23] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: The exception is Ctrl-Space, because Mac OS itself uses that for Spotlight
[20:59:24] <rcjsuen> are you even in a neditor
[20:59:29] <rcjsuen> in an editor, that supports content assist
[20:59:37] <paukul> sure :)
[21:00:00] <sc445> so I created source bundle springframework-osgi and have following source directory
[21:00:05] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: well, feel free to correct the reply with your new found powers ;)
[21:00:05] <njbartlett> Oh is this the mylyn problem again?
[21:00:13] <sc445> org.springframework.bundle.osgi.core_1.0
[21:00:14] <rcjsuen> maybe
[21:00:18] <rcjsuen> paukul: Does a Window even appear?
[21:00:25] <njbartlett> paukul: Do you get a little popup that says basically no suggestions? Or nothing at all
[21:00:34] <paukul> yes, a osx windows for spotlight
[21:00:54] <njbartlett> paukul: Hm then you're pressing Cmd-Space, not Ctrl-Space!
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[21:01:12] <njbartlett> Cmd is the button with the Apple logo on it
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[21:01:41] <paukul> njbartlett: cmd-space opens the little spotlight search, ctrl-space a bigger search window
[21:02:03] <rcjsuen> paukul: Please take a screenshot of ctrl+space window.
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[21:04:13] <paukul> rcjsuen: http://codeslave.de/share/eclipse.png here you go :)
[21:04:14] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Most Mac users know how to translate instructions written for Windows users TBH :-)
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[21:05:07] <njbartlett> paukul: Well that's not an Eclipse window. Sounds like you've got some other utility on your system that's stealing the hotkey, so Eclipse will never receive it.
[21:05:14] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: well then
[21:05:26] <notgod> paulweb515: Thenks. I have been trying to use the extension, but there are quite a few problems. For one, I can't get a project integrated with Subversion over RSE. (Subclipse) so I am looking at something to synchronize the local environment with a remote folder. I also can copy the files to another locally mounted directory. Need to figure out how to do either of these. :)
[21:06:16] <paukul> njbartlett: ok i'll try to find the thief and beat him as long as he gives back the hotkey to my beloved eclipse. thanks
[21:06:26] <LordMetroid> Installation on Windows went fine, at least I think it did as I merely copied the content of the zip file to my program folder... I am trying to run a test project but Eclipse gives me a "Launch Error" stateing "Selection does not Contain a main type", what is wrong? I got a public static void main(String[] args) of course so there is a main!
[21:07:00] <paukul> njbartlett: got it, it was buttler :)
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[21:09:22] <paukul> butler agreed to let the hotkey belong to eclipse finaly (he's missing a few teeth now but i thats ok)
[21:09:32] <rcjsuen> LordMetroid: please take a screenshot of your window
[21:10:11] <LordMetroid> ok
[21:11:18] <rcjsuen> LordMetroid: with error, source code, and package explorer visible
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[21:15:12] <LordMetroid> http://www.areta.org/~lordmetroid/test.png
[21:15:42] <njbartlett> LordMetroid: Two problems
[21:15:52] <LordMetroid> OK?
[21:15:54] <njbartlett> LordMetroid: First, you need to put this main method inside a class
[21:16:12] <njbartlett> LordMetroid: Second, you need to create a "source folder" and put Test.java inside it
[21:16:13] * rcjsuen opens.
[21:16:16] <rcjsuen> ooo, no source folder
[21:16:54] <LordMetroid> Ahhh, Doh! I forgot the class envelope, I must be rustier than I suspected...
[21:17:06] <rcjsuen> I'm surprised there were no source folders, could this be, Eclipes 3.2?
[21:17:19] <LordMetroid> 3.3.1.1
[21:17:35] <rcjsuen> how odd
[21:17:43] <rcjsuen> when you make a new java project the default should be set to use src/bin
[21:19:32] <LordMetroid> Okay when I am about to create a new file I have a bin folder
[21:19:53] <LordMetroid> Test/bin
[21:20:18] <LordMetroid> Should I Create Test.java in the bin folder?
[21:20:46] <njbartlett> LordMetroid: No, you should create it inside the src folder, which should also have been created by the wizard
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[21:21:22] <LordMetroid> There is a whole lot that is found on my linux installation of Eclipse
[21:22:04] <LordMetroid> Running 3.2 on linux though
[21:23:04] <njbartlett> LordMetroid: Let's talk about the problem on your Windows installation for the moment, because that's the one you showed us a screenshot of
[21:23:32] <LordMetroid> Yes and the Linux one works fine
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[21:24:15] <rcjsuen> File > New > Java project
[21:24:19] <rcjsuen> in one of the bordered boxes
[21:24:27] <rcjsuen> make sure 'Create separate source and output folders' (or whatever)
[21:24:30] <rcjsuen> Put a name, 'Finish'
[21:24:38] <LordMetroid> I created a src folder manually and put the Test.java there, doesn't work either
[21:24:39] <rcjsuen> See 'ProjectName' > 'src'
[21:24:43] <rcjsuen> Click on 'src', File > New > Class
[21:24:50] <rcjsuen> LordMetroid: did you put public class Test?
[21:24:55] <LordMetroid> yes
[21:25:04] <rcjsuen> that depends on whether you made a new Folder
[21:25:07] <rcjsuen> or a new Source Folder
[21:25:20] <overholt> LordMetroid: right-click on the project and select properties
[21:25:33] <rcjsuen> just do the steps i just went through and save yourself some time
[21:25:36] <overholt> LordMetroid: is your "src" folder listed under Java Build Path -> Source?
[21:25:37] <LordMetroid> Okay, by choosing the default workspace it works...
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[21:28:18] <secureT> how to make hidden files be shown?
[21:28:45] <LordMetroid> I previously tried to Create project from existing source, which obviously is faulty... In Linux it worked anyhow
[21:29:10] <njbartlett> LordMetroid: Ah. It's not the "Create project from existing source" that's faulty. It's your existing source that was faulty ;-)
[21:29:23] <LordMetroid> But in Windows it doesn't add the JRE System Library and all other necessary additions
[21:29:57] <rcjsuen> I never used that existing source thingamajig.
[21:30:16] <njbartlett> LordMetroid: When you import a project, it doesn't add anything, because it's supposed to be a working project already. So if the JRE is pointing to some Linux filesystem path, it of course won't work on Windows
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[21:30:31] <LordMetroid> ok
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[21:43:16] <LordMetroid> Thanks people...
[21:43:27] <LordMetroid> I really appreciate the help
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[21:49:18] <Jetrii> Has anyone had trouble with Eclipse on OS X? It isn't property compiling a few parts of my program. For some reason "getRootPane().putClientProperty("apple.awt.brushMetalLook", Boolean.TRUE);" won't work.
[21:50:43] <rcjsuen> define "won't work"
[21:52:06] <Jetrii> It isn't doing what it is suppose to? That is suppose to enable the unified toolbar look but It's just making things darker. I'll take a screenshot
[21:52:28] <Jetrii> I copy and pasted the exact same thing into Xcode and it worked flawlessly.
[21:52:30] <njbartlett> Jetrii: What's that got to do with Eclipse? It's some kind of Mac-specific Swing setting?
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[21:52:49] <rcjsuen> maybe using a different jre i s'pose?
[21:53:04] <njbartlett> Could be
[21:53:05] <Jetrii> I configured them to use the same one.
[21:53:09] <rcjsuen> Jetrii: well, there's more than "this isn't doing what i expect it to do", maybe it's crashing, eclipse is giving compilation errors, etc etc
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[21:53:29] <rcjsuen> Jetrii: which is why iasked you to define "won't work"
[21:53:38] <rcjsuen> Please understand our rationale for asking "stupid questions".
[21:54:51] <Jetrii> If there were compiler errors/runtime errors, I would have said so. Sorry for not specifying.
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[21:56:13] <rcjsuen> Jetrii: if you run the Eclipse app from the command line does it work?
[21:56:21] <rcjsuen> the app compiled by eclipse JDT, to be precise
[21:56:36] <Jetrii> If I compile it from the command line, it does work.
[21:56:49] <rcjsuen> not compile, run
[21:56:52] <lgbr> I just downloaded eclipse, and imported my java project from CVS. I have lots of things in the build path, like JUnit. However it will not build. It doesn't seem to be able to find the references in the build path. What's going on?
[21:57:24] <Jetrii> Compiles and runs fine.
[21:57:44] <Jetrii> http://www.picgarage.net/images/Pictu_53832_334.jpeg. Using the command line/xcode produces the result on the left. Right is produced by Eclipse
[21:57:45] <martinkli> lgbr: where are your references located?
[21:57:48] <njbartlett> Jetrii: Does the problem only happen when you launch your application using Eclipse's Run or Debug buttons? If so I suspect that it's not using the same JRE when launching java
[21:58:01] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: i still think that too
[21:58:02] <lgbr> martinkli: MyProjectFolder.lib.ext
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[21:58:27] <Jetrii> njbartlett: I tried different versions of Java. This has been supported for a while.
[21:59:08] <martinkli> lgbr: please post the error message you get the in the problems view
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[21:59:15] <njbartlett> Jetrii: Take a look at the JRE tab on the launch configuration in Eclipse.
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[21:59:38] <lgbr> martinkli: Severity and Description Path Resource Location Creation Time Id
[21:59:38] <lgbr> TestCase cannot be resolved to a type Seeker/Commands LinearAlgebraTest.java line 18 1201553808580 2373
[22:00:21] <rcjsuen> lgbr: ~pastebin your project's .project file
[22:00:22] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
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[22:00:57] <plexq> I have a dynamic website project, but somehow it doesn't use class files I've imported into WEB-INF/lib
[22:01:00] <Jetrii> njbartlett: Hmmm?
[22:01:19] <lgbr> rcjsuen: http://rafb.net/p/XthqDN31.html
[22:01:24] <rcjsuen> Jetrii: Run > Run Configuration
[22:01:30] <rcjsuen> click your app, JRE tab
[22:01:33] <rcjsuen> is what he's trying to say
[22:02:15] <rcjsuen> lgbr: sorry, i mean .classpath
[22:03:03] <lgbr> rcjsuen: http://rafb.net/p/hrz47e43.html
[22:03:07] <Jetrii> njbartlett: It is using the standard JRE version. I literally tried every possible combination of settings.
[22:03:44] <rcjsuen> Jetrii: open your debug window
[22:03:50] <rcjsuen> select your dead process
[22:03:53] <rcjsuen> open its properties
[22:03:58] <rcjsuen> get its command line command
[22:04:02] <rcjsuen> run that
[22:04:05] <rcjsuen> see what happens
[22:04:15] <rcjsuen> lgbr: do you have <classpathentry exported="true" kind="lib" path="lib/ext/junit-4.4.jar"/>
[22:04:16] <rcjsuen> that jar?
[22:04:22] <rcjsuen> lgbr: if yes, try Project / Clean
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[22:04:56] <lgbr> rcjsuen: Yes I do. Project / Clean didn't help.
[22:05:12] <rcjsuen> lgbr: screenshot
[22:05:27] <njbartlett> Jetrii: Okay, I'm a Mac user as well... can you package up a minimal bundle of code that I can run to test this myself?
[22:05:37] <rcjsuen> give us problems view, file with errors
[22:05:42] <rcjsuen> package explorer with external libraries tree node expanded
[22:06:18] <Jetrii> njbartlett: Yea, one second. I
[22:07:00] <Jetrii> http://pastebin.com/d3714cbaa
[22:07:16] <lgbr> rcjsuen: http://logichem.wsu.edu/~bwaldher/screen.jpg
[22:08:54] <rcjsuen> lgbr: does pressing F3 on TestCase work?
[22:09:18] <lgbr> rcjsuen: It highlights the error that I pasted above
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[22:09:33] <njbartlett> Jetrii: So it should look like the menu bar and the rest of the window are all one panel, right?
[22:09:40] <rcjsuen> lgbr: what is in your jar file
[22:09:50] <rcjsuen> lgbr: if you expand it can you find the class?
[22:09:57] <martinkli> lgbr: is there a TestCase class when you press Ctrl+Shift+T and enter "TestCase"?
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[22:10:16] <Jetrii> njbartlet: Everything should be 1 gradient. There shouldn't be a line between the title and the window.
[22:10:24] <rcjsuen> martinkli: good question
[22:10:28] <njbartlett> Jetrii: Right. Well that's what I get
[22:10:35] <njbartlett> Jetrii: When running under Eclipse
[22:10:43] <lgbr> martinkli: no.
[22:10:49] <Jetrii> njbartlet: That is odd...Wonder what the heck happened to my configuration...
[22:11:05] <Jetrii> njbartlet: Are you on Leopard?
[22:11:09] * rcjsuen rubs his chin at njbartlett.
[22:11:27] <njbartlett> Jetrii: Yup, Mac OS 10.5.1
[22:11:32] <lgbr> I think I've found the problem
[22:11:39] <lgbr> I have corrupt jars... all five of them
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[22:12:19] <Jetrii> njbartlet: Hmmmm, now I'm even more confused...
[22:12:33] <rcjsuen> lgbr: har har
[22:12:45] <lgbr> CVS corrupted them or something to that effect
[22:13:12] <njbartlett> Jetrii: In the launch configuration, could you add "-verbose" to the VM arguments
[22:13:13] <martinkli> lgbr: on your screenshot, there is another juni-4.4.jar in the project, above the Manifest file
[22:13:24] <njbartlett> Jetrii: Then pastebin the output... just the first hundred lines or so would do
[22:13:31] <martinkli> you could try that one instead
[22:13:52] <lgbr> martinkli: Yeah, I have that one in two places. it needs to be fixed
[22:13:53] <martinkli> but if all your jar files are corrupt that won't do the job ;)
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[22:16:22] <Jetrii> njbartlet: I tried Eclipse on my new Mac pro and it worked...Although the configurations are identical, my Macbook has Java 1.6 installed and my Mac pro doesn't. I guess Java 1.6 somehow messed up with my settings.
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[22:16:47] <njbartlett> Jetrii: Ah, the developer preview?
[22:17:08] <Jetrii> njbartlet: Yeap. I expected it to be buggy but I didn't think it would take over my system.
[22:17:11] <njbartlett> BTW if you spell my name right, my Colloquy icon will bounce and get my attention when you're trying to talk to me :-)
[22:17:40] <neclimdul> (just hit tab)
[22:17:50] <Jetrii> njbartlett: Sorry, wasn't aware that I missed a t. I am really off my game today.
[22:18:13] <njbartlett> Jetrii: No worries. So where you running against Java 6 from Eclipse, or Java 5?
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[22:18:52] <Jetrii> njbartlett: I tried both. Problem still persisted with everything set to Java 5. Very odd.
[22:19:41] <njbartlett> Jetrii: Yeah. I can't explain that either.
[22:19:46] <Jetrii> njbartlett: Funny thing is that all of the other OS X properties work fine. apple.awt.brushMetalLook is the only one acting up.
[22:21:43] <Jetrii> njbartlett: Thanks again. I can finally stop OCDing about the unified toolbar and finish my program. There are a lot of PS3/360 owners waiting on it :)
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[22:22:42] <njbartlett> Jetrii: You're welcome
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[22:29:17] <riishigh> Anybody tried taking an Idea J2EE project and using that project in eclipse?
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[22:39:24] <multi_io> HUH? All of a sudden, my small RCP app (that is is not an Eclipse plugin and has nothing to do with the Eclipse IDE) incorporates several Eclipse IDE actions, menus and toolbars, including text search, software updates and Run/"External Tools"! How can that happen?
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[22:41:18] <multi_io> Manifest.MF only has 3 core Eclipse plugins in its "Require-Bundle" section: org.eclipse.ui, org.eclipse.core.runtime and org.eclipse.ui.views
[22:41:23] <multi_io> as it always did
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[22:44:47] <njbartlett> multi_io: You probably included some additional plugins in your launch config
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[22:47:54] <multi_io> njbartlett: shit, you're right :-P
[22:47:57] <multi_io> thanks
[22:48:03] <njbartlett> I know I'm right :-)
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[23:30:49] <lgbr> when profiling using TPTP, my swing application doesn't start. Is this normal?
[23:31:04] <lgbr> well, I suppose it does start, but the interface never pops up
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[23:49:28] <riishigh> Anyone know where you can reconfigure EJB Module target dir from the EJB Module Facet?
[23:51:22] <riishigh> only way I've found is to close the project go into .settings directory and edit the files... which I really don't think can be right! :)
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