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[00:12:42] <AStorm> heh, I wonder if anyone here tried to use TreeItem checkboxes only for info display
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[00:13:22] <AStorm> I cannot get the system to not change these
[00:13:40] <f1sh3r> is there a linux distro that comes prepackaged with eclipse?
[00:13:50] <tromey> most of them
[00:14:06] <f1sh3r> any that are configured for php out of the box?
[00:14:19] <f1sh3r> or a vm setup of types?
[00:14:39] <tromey> php, I don't know
[00:14:59] <f1sh3r> hmm
[00:15:29] <bladezor> Hey, does anyone know if Eclipse has an option to automatically convert "." to "->" if the preceding object is a pointer?
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[00:15:44] <f1sh3r> ok, just thought id ask here before i began my search. thanks.
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[00:15:52] <Erik1> problem definig svn repository in Eclipse: how would the URL look like, if my repos. is /var/svn-repos on localhost ????
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[00:16:16] <bladezor> Erik1, http://127.0.0.1/svn-repos
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[00:16:21] <bladezor> Depends on how your settings are
[00:16:22] <bladezor> But mine is
[00:16:27] <bladezor> http://127.0.0.1/svn
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[00:16:35] <Techdeck> hi, how do I add a property file to the classpath of a project?
[00:16:45] <Erik1> even with the /var ?
[00:16:50] <bladezor> Erik1, no
[00:17:32] <bladezor> Erik1, in one of the configs for apache there should be a line to specify where the svn repo will be
[00:18:24] <bladezor> check /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/dav_svn.conf
[00:19:17] <bladezor> If you look at the <Location> tag it should have a location next to it, hence mine is <Location /svn>
[00:19:54] <Erik1> ok
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[00:24:23] <Erik1> bladezor: I find "# SVNPath /var/svn/lib" I make that " SVNPath /var/svn-repos " ?
[00:24:35] <bladezor> yes
[00:24:39] <bladezor> And uncomment it
[00:24:42] <Erik1> ok
[00:25:47] <bladezor> bah
[00:26:00] <bladezor> I guess I'm going to have to make a plugin
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[00:50:30] <d_a_carver> Jimbob2k: I've shared workspaces between Linux and Windows XP before, the only weird issue I ran into is that Eclipse would rebuild the workspace projects when it first started in either Windows or Linux.
[00:51:28] <d_a_carver> and you just have to remember to use / instead of \ if you hard code the file separator.
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[00:54:31] <Techdeck> hi, how do I add a property file to the classpath of a project?
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[00:57:47] <Kevin_Sawicki> hi, does anyone know if the SWT_AWT bridge is broken on Eclipse 3.3 on Mac OS 10.5
[00:58:54] <Techdeck> how do I generate a manifest file?
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[01:15:20] <Techdeck> does eclipse read MANIFEST.MF?
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[01:41:11] <bladezor> Hi, does anyone have any idea how to change the tool tip background color? -> http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/7431/tooltipcolorsgf6.png
[01:41:39] <octoberdan> I tried to update eclipse this morning, but after closing it, I could not longer open it without having it crash with "JVM terminated. Exit code=13"
[01:43:45] <octoberdan> So I gave up and wiped it out
[01:45:35] <octoberdan> However, when I downloaded eclipsed again (64 bit linux) I experienced the same problem
[01:45:42] <octoberdan> I've done a clean
[01:45:47] <octoberdan> and it still doesn't work
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[01:51:01] <octoberdan> How can I diagnose?
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[01:56:21] <cruss1> octoberdan maybe they're using a different jvm?
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[01:58:08] <twdsje> I'm having trouble using the sysdeo tomcat plugin with eclipse. If I make an html file or a jsp page in a project called test in eclipse I can go localhost/test/hello.jsp and it works but if I make a servlet called hello.java and i goto localhost/test/hello I get nothing
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[01:59:02] <octoberdan> cruss1: $JAVA_HOME is set and the java installation is 64bit aswell
[01:59:10] <octoberdan> And before the update it was working
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[02:00:03] <cruss1> Did you try moving your default workspace out of the way?
[02:01:06] <octoberdan> yes, still crashes
[02:01:19] <cruss1> Could eclipse be storing anything in your home dir?
[02:01:19] <octoberdan> http://pastebin.com/m745a5361
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[02:03:14] <octoberdan> I doubt it
[02:03:25] <octoberdan> I haven't seen anything
[02:04:04] <octoberdan> I'll find | grep
[02:05:06] <cruss1> And your JVM runs other apps okay still?
[02:06:54] <octoberdan> Yes, the only thing that has changed is eclipse
[02:07:09] <octoberdan> That includes everything
[02:07:10] <cruss1> Pretty strange problem.
[02:07:30] <octoberdan> How can I further diagnose it?
[02:07:37] <cruss1> Moral of the story: don't upgrade eclipse.
[02:07:37] <octoberdan> Logs?
[02:08:14] <cruss1> I'd probably be googling
[02:08:27] <octoberdan> I have been.
[02:08:49] <octoberdan> As of now I haven't found anything usable. Some posts, but mostly unanswered
[02:09:17] <octoberdan> emacs is taking its revenge
[02:09:18] <cruss1> Sounds like recent (your updated) versions of eclipse may have a plugin or component that triggers the problem on your system.
[02:09:32] <cruss1> Maybe there's a way you could go back to an older build?
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[02:10:07] <ijuma> octoberdan: yes, the logs would be the next step
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[02:11:45] <bladezor> https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=194312 <- Why isn't that fixed?
[02:12:11] <bladezor> Do I have to wait until the newest Eclipse version?
[02:14:11] <ijuma> bladezor: CDT 5.0 if you want a stable version
[02:14:24] <ijuma> or just get an integration build of milestone build
[02:14:38] <bladezor> How would I go about doing that?
[02:16:16] <ijuma> there are nightlies here http://download.eclipse.org/tools/cdt/builds/5.0.0/index.html but it says that you also need eclipse 3.4
[02:16:26] <ijuma> so, you'd have to upgrade everything
[02:17:30] <bladezor> ah
[02:17:33] <ijuma> bladezor: so, if you think it's worth upgrading you may want to do it from here http://wiki.eclipse.org/Ganymede/For_Users
[02:17:52] <ijuma> bladezor: that has all the milestone builds in the next version "train"
[02:18:35] <ijuma> bladezor: it seems like the CDT 5.0M4 was released a few days after the fix you need
[02:19:02] <ijuma> so, unless they branched, it means you'd get it as part of the last release from the ganymede train
[02:19:27] <bladezor> Alright, thanks a bunch ;)
[02:21:04] <ijuma> np
[02:24:42] <bladezor> Yep, it's in there
[02:24:43] <bladezor> :)
[02:24:44] <bladezor> Thanks
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[02:33:48] <speedcore> one short question: Anyone who has succesfully edited classic asp in Eclipse?
[02:34:24] <speedcore> experiences and such
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[02:59:16] <rawake> is there a way to open up a file that doesn't have a file extension in a specific editor?
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[03:00:59] <speedcore> well.. can't you give a file an extension of your like'ing?
[03:01:16] <speedcore> also you can open files with no extension i most dev-editors
[03:01:36] <rawake> no, I don't want to modify the filename because other files rely on it being named the way it is
[03:01:51] <speedcore> ok
[03:02:05] <speedcore> anyway... try to open it
[03:02:32] <speedcore> is it a critical file?
[03:02:33] <rawake> I right clicked the file, clicked open with -> other and selected the editor but it doesn't like that because it says its content type isn't set
[03:02:48] <speedcore> wich os are you on?
[03:03:09] <rawake> speedcore: yes, well I need to edit this file and it will be a lot easier if I had all the ide features avaialble rather than it just being a plain text document
[03:03:14] <rawake> speedcore: linux
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[03:03:38] <speedcore> ah... but... then open in in... gedit... or something like that
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[03:03:48] <speedcore> and then save a copy... and change the extension
[03:03:53] <speedcore> and play with it
[03:04:04] <speedcore> once opened you can find out what kind of file it is
[03:04:05] <rawake> so no way to keep it in eclipse huh?
[03:04:15] <speedcore> ylu
[03:04:18] <speedcore> sry
[03:04:21] <rawake> ylu?
[03:04:28] <speedcore> just type error
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[03:04:45] <rawake> ok, thanks
[03:04:54] <speedcore> well.. you can open it in eclipse... but I think eclipse like a file extension for colorcoding
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[03:05:03] <speedcore> most editors do
[03:06:07] <speedcore> rawake: good luck
[03:07:13] <rawake> right but there's just no way to tell it what editor to use because it doesn't have an extension huh?
[03:07:56] <speedcore> if you see the content of the file.. as simple text..
[03:08:03] <speedcore> maybee you can determain...
[03:08:08] <speedcore> by the content of it
[03:08:18] <speedcore> and then give it the correct extension
[03:08:30] <speedcore> what kind of file do you think it is?
[03:08:37] <speedcore> what are you working on?
[03:09:09] <rawake> I know for a fact it's a php file
[03:09:16] <rawake> I know what kind of file it is, I created it
[03:09:33] <rawake> I know what editor I want to assign to it but I don't know how to do it without giving it an extension
[03:09:57] <Kevin_Sawicki> hi, does anyone know if the SWT_AWT bridge is broken on Eclipse 3.3 on Mac OS 10.5
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[03:10:57] <speedcore> rawake: then... just name it php
[03:11:17] <speedcore> if you can't for any reason name that file .php then copy it.. and edit the copied one
[03:11:33] <speedcore> and paste the changes back to the extensionless file
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[03:12:27] <speedcore> sounds like a strange system of work.. though
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[04:44:06] <bladezor> My indexer in Europa doesn't seem to be working
[04:44:20] <bladezor> Code completion is not functioning correctly
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[05:24:20] <Eckos> I got a question about the Eclipse C++. How do I get the intellisense for the external C++ classes and not just my own classes?
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[05:34:56] <jelly-bean> in Eclipse PDT i can't right-click > new > PHP File and name the file anything with a hyphen in it. (e.g. no hyphens allowed in php filenames? since when?) anyone know how to correct this? is it a configuration setting?
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[06:26:55] <dmiles_afk> is jbuilder in eclipse make special binaries abnormal to eclipse?
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[07:05:05] <S4nD3r> I installed eclipse Eclipse for RCP/Plug-in Developers but this do not works as user??? Just for root...
[07:05:08] <S4nD3r> How solve it
[07:05:08] <S4nD3r> ?
[07:05:31] <S4nD3r> as user, IDE opens, but do not allows to use any tools
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[07:28:38] <cstextile1> I want to find all the references of Class HttpServletRequest.setAttribute() Method but i don't have HttpServletRequest Class How to find the references of the same?
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[08:00:37] <probonono> Are there keyboard shortcuts for switching between open source document windows, a la firefox tabs (ctrl-n) etc.?
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[10:23:46] <Erik1> I added subversion, but now I have to set a connection to repository (/var/svn-repos). all on local host. what must be the URL to set ?
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[10:27:43] <peter__> hello! in all eclipse-gef examples they save model data just serialized. but how should it be done if model is presented as xml? saving is no problem but what is the proper way for loading data into gui - generating series of faked requests maybe?
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[12:45:17] <neill_> i have a question about plugin activation. my RCP project some.rcp depends on another plugin some.process, where some.process starts a background process that is needed by some.rcp.
[12:46:15] <neill_> i have set the dependencies so that some.rcp requires some.process. but some.process is not activated.
[12:46:46] <neill_> can i activate it programmatically, or what is the recommened steps?
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[13:03:26] <neil__> can someone explain how to activate plugins that don't depend on eclipse core plugins?
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[13:05:02] <paulweb515_> neil__: do you depend on anything (org.eclipse.ui, org.eclipse.core.runtime)?
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[13:06:13] <paulweb515_> neil__: the normal way (as RCP often does) is to specify the plugin in the eclipse/configuration/config.ini file
[13:06:16] <paulweb515_> gotta run
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[13:07:50] <neil__> paulweb515: no the plugin doesn't depend on anything.
[13:08:36] <neil__> the config.ini is the place to edit if i want to publish the plugin, isn't it?
[13:09:14] <neil__> what do i need to activate it during development in the IDE?
[13:09:35] <neil__> i meant 'what do i need to do to activate...'
[13:11:17] <neil__> the problem is not the RCP plugin. this one is activated as it should. but the RCP plugin depends on another plugin (which depends on nothing and is never activated)
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[13:31:45] <neil__> may i repeat my question about plugin activation. of course i can instantiate the plugin's activator class and invoke it's start() method.
[13:32:25] <neil__> but i think this is not the recommended way of doing it. can't i use the plugin.xml to have it activated?
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[13:50:22] <rcjsuen> Techdeck: read manifest.mf in what way?
[13:53:06] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: jbuilder making special binaries?
[13:54:20] <rcjsuen> probonono: you mean switching between files?
[13:55:03] <Techdeck> heh, I asked that question yesterday :p
[13:55:19] <rcjsuen> I realize that. I'm reading the logs.
[13:55:20] <probonono> rcjsuen, yes
[13:55:22] <Techdeck> rcjsuen, I meant, actually use a manifest.fm while running a java client
[13:55:29] <rcjsuen> probonono: ctrl+pgup/down?
[13:55:30] <Techdeck> (from eclipse)
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[13:55:53] <rcjsuen> use a manifest.mf while running a java client? not sure I follow
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[13:56:40] <probonono> rcjsuen, thank you so much. I know I ought to be able to look it up somewhere but I'm just so exhausted at the moment.
[13:56:57] <rcjsuen> probonono: you can also try ctrl+f6 if you like cycling it that way
[13:57:08] <Techdeck> rcjsuen, I mean, I run a java class I made with eclipse. The project has a MANIFEST.FM in META-INF which is in the bin directory
[13:57:21] <rcjsuen> <neil__> the problem is not the RCP plugin. this one is activated as it should. but the RCP plugin depends on another plugin (which depends on nothing and is never activated)
[13:57:34] <rcjsuen> neil__: that's odd, if rcp plug-in activates and it depends on something else, something else should activate
[13:57:39] <Techdeck> how can I make eclipse read that manifest.fm and use the class-path defined in it?
[13:58:32] <rcjsuen> Techdeck: dunno, never had to do that i'm afraid
[13:58:39] <Techdeck> :)
[13:58:41] <Techdeck> :(
[13:58:46] <Techdeck> no worries, thanks anyway
[13:58:55] <neil__> rcjsuen: did you follow my description before?
[13:59:03] <rcjsuen> Techdeck: what's your use case?
[13:59:24] <Techdeck> you mean what am I trying to do?
[13:59:27] <rcjsuen> neil__: i think i understand anyway ;)
[13:59:28] <neil__> some.rcp depends on some.process. some.rcp _is_ activated. but some.process is not.
[13:59:39] <rcjsuen> neil__: yes, and i'm saying that's un-possible
[13:59:41] <neil__> some.process depends on nothing.
[13:59:50] <Techdeck> well, I have a property file, that needs to sit outside of the jar I'm making. I need a way to load it from within the jar (without using absolute paths)
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[14:00:09] <neil__> you say its impossible that some.process is not activated?
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[14:00:20] <rcjsuen> neil__: afaik about OSGi
[14:00:28] <rcjsuen> neil__: njbartlett might be able to help.
[14:01:08] <neil__> can lazy-start be the problem?
[14:01:24] <rcjsuen> neil__: how do you know some.process is not activated
[14:01:34] <rcjsuen> Techdeck: ah
[14:01:37] <neil__> debug messages
[14:01:47] <Erik1> pfffff: I just installed Subversive/Subversion in Eclipse. turns out there is a lot of Apache-stuff (like SSL things) to set right and Subversion stuff to do, before you can even think about Subversive. Then , after that, Subversive in Eclipse is rather straightforward.
[14:01:54] <neil__> is Activator.start() is never executed.
[14:01:55] <rcjsuen> neil__: can you pastebin your process's MANIFEST.MF file
[14:02:04] <rcjsuen> and it's activator class
[14:02:27] <neil__> wait. i need some minutes.
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[14:07:06] <neil__> rcjsuen: http://pastebin.ca/873320
[14:08:08] <neil__> rcjsuen: just found the 'Eclipse-LazyStart: true' in the manifest. Is this the problem? i'll try without.
[14:08:34] <rcjsuen> That shouldn't prevent it from "never" starting.
[14:11:02] <neil__> no. i changed it to 'Eclipse-LazyStart: false' and still it is not activated.
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[14:13:04] <neil__> rcjsuen: here is the some.rcp MANIFEST.MF: http://pastebin.ca/873326
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[14:13:45] <rcjsuen> you actually named your plug-in some.rcp and some.process?
[14:13:52] <neil__> do i need to list the some.process activator in the some.rcp MANIFEST.MF?
[14:14:00] <neil__> yes that are the names.
[14:14:25] <rcjsuen> No, you don't need the proess's activator.
[14:14:26] <neil__> some.rcp is just the headless RCP template.
[14:16:00] <neil__> in this eclipse article: http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-Plug-in-architecture/plugin_architecture.html you find the following remark:
[14:16:06] <neil__> A plug-in that is deployed but unreachable from any core plug-in via the dependency and extension relations might as well not be deployed from the point of view of plug-in activation.
[14:16:17] <neil__> may this be the problem?
[14:16:55] <rcjsuen> Unlikely.
[14:17:20] <neil__> why? some.process is unreachable, because it depends on nothing.
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[14:17:34] <rcjsuen> neil__: your rcp depends on proces though
[14:17:41] <neil__> right.
[14:17:44] <rcjsuen> it is reachable, from a core (your rcp)
[14:19:32] <neil__> what i did is create an almost trivial plugin project (some.process) with an activator and the headless RCP template some.rcp (RCP application with activator). listed some.rcp to depend on some.process.
[14:19:48] <neil__> nothing else. this should make some.process to be activated?
[14:20:35] <neil__> both some.* are in the plugins of the run configuration.
[14:20:35] <rcjsuen> B depends A, if B gets activated, A should too
[14:20:46] <neil__> weird
[14:21:25] <neil__> isn't rather A only activated if B needs "something" from A?
[14:21:46] <neil__> this is lazy-start, isn't it? although i set lazy-start to false
[14:22:12] <neil__> ans what would "something" be?
[14:22:26] <rcjsuen> Well, if you want to try that, just make a class in A
[14:22:29] <rcjsuen> and then in B
[14:22:32] <rcjsuen> call new MyClassInA()
[14:22:45] <njbartlett> neil__: I think I can help you, but unfortunately have to go out now. Look for me online later?
[14:22:53] <neil__> what do you mean "make a class in A"?
[14:23:04] <neil__> njbartlett: what time approx.?
[14:23:07] <rcjsuen> neil__: As in, create a class in A?
[14:23:19] <njbartlett> neil__: After 5PM GMT
[14:23:23] <neil__> rcjsuen: any class???
[14:23:26] <njbartlett> See you
[14:23:33] <neil__> thanks, njbartlett
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[14:23:55] <rcjsuen> neil__: That is what I'm implying.
[14:24:07] <neil__> or do you bean I should instantiate B in A?
[14:24:13] <neil__> bean -> mean
[14:24:18] <rcjsuen> That is what I said, right?
[14:24:29] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> and then in B
[14:24:30] <rcjsuen> <rcjsuen> call new MyClassInA()
[14:24:51] <neil__> ah, sorry.
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[14:27:08] <neil__> here it is: B(rcp) depends on A(process)...
[14:27:46] <neil__> I added "some.process.Activator proc=new some.process.Activator();" in A's Activator.start()
[14:28:10] <neil__> sorry in B's Activator.start()
[14:28:25] <neil__> still A is not activated.
[14:30:37] <neil__> even if i add "proc.start(context)" after the proc=new... line (above), A is not activated??
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[14:33:37] <neil__> it becomes worse. no i saw that even some.rcp.Activator.start() is not executed.
[14:33:58] <neil__> i think i give up.
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[14:37:02] <rcjsuen> [14:30:37] <neil__> even if i add "proc.start(context)" after the proc=new... line (above), A is not activated??
[14:37:07] <rcjsuen> calling it directly has nothing to do with this
[14:37:27] <rcjsuen> neil__: Do you have -consoleLog?
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[14:41:02] <neil__> how do i get the consolelog?
[14:42:07] <neil__> i have just replaced the headless some.rcp with the 'Hello RCP' template (called it some.ui_rcp). Now at least the some.ui_rcp Activator is started.
[14:42:08] <rcjsuen> ~consolelog
[14:42:09] <KOS-MOS> Writing an Eclipse-based application and can't find anything useful in your console and/or getting "Unhandled event loop exceptions"? Add -consoleLog as a 'Program Argument' to your launch configuration. See http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_get_an_unhandled_event_loop_exception_in_my_console._What_gives.3F
[14:42:25] <neil__> thanks
[14:42:30] <rcjsuen> i thought your some.rcp Activator always started
[14:43:58] <neil__> i thought so, too. but i had written: it becomes worse. no i saw that even some.rcp.Activator.start() is not executed.
[14:45:37] <neil__> when i talked about plugins being activated i actually meant that their start() method would be executed. I didn't distinguish between the instantiation and the start() call. but it seems the plugin Activators have even not been instatiated
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[14:46:12] <neil__> now with the some.ui_rcp at least *that* activator is start()ed.
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[14:47:51] <neil__> i added "-consoleLog". no additional output. problems should be reported on the console? or somewhere else?
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[14:54:48] <neil__> rcjsuen: are you still around? i have narrowed down the problem.
[14:55:38] <neil__> as i said, the Activator.start() method of some.ui_rcp is executed.
[14:56:40] <neil__> when i set Eclipse-LazyStart: true instead of false, the start() method is not executed anymore. how this?
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[14:57:31] <neil__> i thought the lazy-start would rather prevent plugins from being activated. there is some severe misunderstanding in my brain.
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[15:08:08] <cstextiles> I want to find all the references of Class HttpServletRequest.setAttribute() Method but i don't have Source code of HttpServletRequest Class. How to find the references of the same?
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[15:18:49] <rcjsuen> neil__: should be reported in the Eclipse console
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[15:30:07] <neil__> rcjsuen: well there is no output in the console except the messages that output from the program.
[15:31:40] <neil__> another question: for the prerequisite plugin "A" to be activated, do i need to declare an extension in the dependent plugin "B" to use an extension point of "A"?
[15:32:12] <neil__> i tried this, without success. before, "A" didn't declare any extension points.
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[15:48:06] <haluk_> hi im trying to format code with ctrl+shift+f in c/c++ perspective but it doesn't work, i know it works in java. Do you have a idea to format the code?
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[15:49:43] <devkid> hi
[15:50:25] <devkid> i'd like to know if it is possible to use something like `pkg-config --libs ...` in a managed c++ project in eclipse cdt
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[16:28:33] <BFCPP> hi does anybody use eclipse cdt in that room ?
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[16:33:45] <yban> Hi *
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[16:40:00] <rcjsuen> BFCPP: if you have a question, just ask it, or try the cdt newsgroups
[16:41:05] <rcjsuen> neil__: you could use -console and try to use the OSGi console
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[16:49:42] <neil__> rcjsuen: i created several new projects for testing, including new run configurations, and now eclipse behaves as expected.
[16:49:51] <neil__> no idea what was wrong.
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[16:50:22] <neil__> thank you for your patience!
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[17:05:40] <edrin> i have an xml schema. how can i validate an xml file with it with java?
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[17:07:47] <rcjsuen> edrin: you mean run an xml validator on an xml file using java code?
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[17:08:39] <rcjsuen> edrin: you should go ask in ##java, basic idea is sax parser and possibly an entity resolver iirc
[17:08:42] <edrin> rcjsuen: yes
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[17:28:09] <jakobC> anyone who knows how the text reconciler works? I have really strange behaviour in my plugin...
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[17:48:59] <neill_> how do i get a bash script (or any other text file) that is part of my eclipse project into the runtime workspace?
[17:49:26] <neill_> do i need to define the script as IResource? any examples on the web?
[17:50:19] <rcjsuen> Into?
[17:50:30] <Erik1> Developing Joomla components with eclipse: do I make the whole Joomla site a project ? can I set breakpoints in different .php files and step through the site ?
[17:50:51] <rcjsuen> Erik1: pombreda might be able to help you if he's around.
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[17:52:50] <Erik1> rcjsuen: PM'ed hem/her. thnx
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[18:09:40] <Erik1> in windows->orefs->php->debug in the pulldown for PHP executables, I get a weird-looking list, like: 'PHP Executable(8)','PHP Executable(3)','PHP Executable(36)', etc. I don't think it should be like that, am I right ?
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[18:32:28] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Did that guy get his plugin activation issue sorted out?
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[18:34:13] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: he recreated stuff (projects / launch config) and it worked *shrugs*
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[18:34:41] <njbartlett> Ah okay
[18:35:02] <njbartlett> It sounded like a typical case of "my plugin depends on that one, why doesn't that one get activated" :-)
[18:35:22] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: is there any common reasons?
[18:35:50] <rcjsuen> are there, rather
[18:35:52] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Well, the concepts are orthogonal. Activation has nothing to do with resolution
[18:36:11] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Eclipse does muddy the waters a bit with the LazyStart stuff unfortunately...
[18:36:24] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: well, he said B depends A, and B activates but A doesn't, is that related?
[18:36:25] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: But even that only happens when you *actually* load a class from the plugin
[18:36:49] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Why would A activate?
[18:37:15] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: I thought that's what Require-Bundle did.
[18:38:05] <rcjsuen> I guess I've been living a lie.
[18:38:07] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: Nope. Require-Bundle just imports static code dependencies, it has nothing to do with activation. It's identical to saying Import-Package on all the exported packages of the specified plugin
[18:38:14] <rcjsuen> I did tell him to try new ClassDeclaredInA()
[18:38:19] <rcjsuen> ah
[18:40:06] <njbartlett> Yeah you could specifically create a class in the other plugin and make sure it gets loaded, but that's really hacky. For one thing it only works on Equinox
[18:40:47] <njbartlett> Better to use the OSGi APIs to activate the bundle specifically. Or if it's an RCP app, list the bundle in config.ini with a :start flag
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[19:00:30] <scroogey> hello
[19:01:53] <scroogey> anyone here have experience with eclipseme?
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[19:09:09] <rcjsuen> scroogey: just ask the real question
[19:10:39] <scroogey> i am planning to move away from netbeans to eclipseme only i have trouble with getting my test j2me project working
[19:10:58] <scroogey> i am trying to get it working with Nokia J2ME S60 SDK only I am getting all kind of preverified errors
[19:11:57] <scroogey> i am have installed eclipse3, eclipseme and antenna
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[19:21:03] <jonkri> is there a way to change the url that is opened in the browser tab if you use the php extension? right now it's host/PROJECTNAME/file... i can change the host, but i don't know how to get rid of the projectname, and i'm getting tired of having to use htaccess files to being able to navigate my site properly. thanks
[19:23:21] <jonkri> in php project settings, localhost is set to http://localhost and documentroot to the correct place. however, eclipse appends <project name>/ to the url before the php file, which gives me a 404 error
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[19:30:58] <Erik1> in windows->prefs->php->debug in the pulldown for PHP executables, I get a weird-looking list, like: 'PHP Executable(8)','PHP Executable(3)','PHP Executable(36)', etc. I don't think it should be like that, am I right ?
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[19:41:03] <Erik1> what is a 'PHP executable' ?
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[19:41:57] <Kapace> hello, i just downloaded and extracted this plugin for eclipse: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ircjavabot/
[19:42:19] <Kapace> and it gives me all these errors about not being able to create the view
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[19:45:31] <rcjsuen> ~tell Kapace about clean
[19:45:31] <KOS-MOS> Kapace: Please try restarting Eclipse with the '-clean' argument. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_have_just_installed_a_plug-in_but_I_do_not_see_any_indication_of_it_in_my_workspace._What_do_I_do.3F
[19:47:12] <Kapace> i actually think its cause i don't have the dependancy
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[19:48:26] <Kapace> heres the exception:
[19:48:28] <Kapace> java.lang.NoSuchMethodError: org.eclipse.ui.internal.WorkbenchImages
[19:48:47] <rcjsuen> I guess it's making calls to non-API.
[19:49:55] <Kapace> why would it do that?
[19:50:15] <Kapace> i got the newest version of everthing.. but not jtd tho
[19:50:22] <Kapace> *jdt
[19:51:00] <rcjsuen> Kapace: It would do that if the plug-in does it.
[19:51:16] <rcjsuen> Kapace: Non-API things can be removed at any time.
[19:51:23] <rcjsuen> if a plug-in makes calls to non-API methods, that is a risk they are taking.
[19:51:29] <rcjsuen> If it gets removed, well, too bad.
[19:51:55] <Kapace> :( , can you recommend another irc client for ecplise?
[19:52:30] <rcjsuen> Kapace: You could try ~ecf
[19:52:31] <KOS-MOS> Take a look at the Eclipse Communication Framework - http://www.eclipse.org/ecf/
[19:52:45] <Kapace> ok
[19:55:11] <Kapace> im using that yoxos install manager..
[19:55:17] <Kapace> its pretty nice
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[20:07:49] <efdetonator> does anyone know how to remove auto import from eclipse?
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[20:12:21] <efdetonator> Does anyone know how to remove auto import ?
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[20:23:42] <efdetonator> please can anyone help me I'm trying to find a way to disable the auto import from eclipse europa.
[20:25:31] <rcjsuen> efdetonator: If someone knew the ansewr they would've said it already.
[20:26:00] <rcjsuen> efdetonator: What is your use case anyway
[20:26:36] <efdetonator> rcjsuen: ty to at least reply, my problem is that I don't need to import anything on eclipse europa and I don't want such feature
[20:27:38] <rcjsuen> efdetonator: you mean you prefer fully qualified names everywhere?
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[20:29:56] <efdetonator> rcjsuen: I prefer to type import javax.swing.* or import java.io.*; instead of don't need to type nothing at all
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[20:31:24] <rcjsuen> i think there's a setting
[20:31:28] <rcjsuen> i don't know where tho
[20:31:55] <efdetonator> I've searched a lot of places but didn't find -_-
[20:34:18] <rcjsuen> efdetonator: java > code style > organize imports
[20:35:03] <dmiles_afk> and perhaps the 4 entries that are there.. and greyed out.. ungrey them.. remove them.. and go back to grey mode
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[20:35:28] <dmiles_afk> talking about the entries like java.lang.*;
[20:35:57] <dmiles_afk> even though in that window are supposeldly doing nothing in some modes still get read read by some impoter
[20:36:14] <dmiles_afk> some import tools organization tool
[20:38:14] <dmiles_afk> i installed jbuilder2007, thinking there was some automixing of .NET code and java due to the fact borland was trying to integrate with the RAD tools they have with C++/C#/Pascal.. have you ever tried jbuilder?
[20:38:26] <efdetonator> rcjsuen: still not that, let me give you and example if I create a public class that extends JFrame I don't need to import javax.swing.JFrame
[20:38:28] <dmiles_afk> but i dont see where it diverges yet from eclipse
[20:38:53] <rcjsuen> efdetonator: yes, i know what you mean
[20:39:06] <rcjsuen> efdetonator: er wait
[20:39:09] <rcjsuen> you don't need to import?
[20:39:16] <rcjsuen> you just want to import javax.swing.* right?
[20:39:17] <dmiles_afk> efdetonator, "extends javax.swing.JFrame"
[20:39:18] <rcjsuen> or wait
[20:39:23] <rcjsuen> you wanted to type everything by hand
[20:39:52] <efdetonator> I want to type on the header "import javax.swing.JFrame;"
[20:40:17] <dmiles_afk> rcjsuen, maybe he had organize imports "on save"
[20:40:22] <efdetonator> but with this feature I don't need to type any import
[20:40:22] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: possibly
[20:40:28] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: code completion could import too
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[20:43:44] <Zerone> ello :)
[20:45:03] <efdetonator> rcjsuen: I think I'll use another ide or vim -_-
[20:45:04] <dmiles_afk> wehnever i am importing things from java.* i like to use full names .. i am not sure if this is true, if one say explicitly imports java.lang.Object; (or java.lang.String) dosnt then all furthur use of java.lang.* then have to be explicilty used (durring compilation) since i use a class called jpl.Integer jpl.String .. so then at the bottem of my imports i "must" use imports java.lang.*; to say implicitly gain the ability to use ja
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[20:46:21] <njbartlett> efdetonator: You can turn off importing when you do completion by unchecking the setting in Preferences > Java > Editor > Content Assist
[20:46:51] <njbartlett> efdetonator: Aside from that, I don't think Eclipse would add imports for you unless you explicitly asked it to
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[20:52:14] <efdetonator> njbartlett: Maybe I pressed a shortcut -_-, anyway I'll reinstall eclipse and check if that solves
[20:52:38] <dmiles_afk> efdetonator, or creae a new workspace
[20:52:54] <dmiles_afk> alot of settings will reset with a new workspace
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[20:56:39] <efdetonator> now I noticed that it's only happening with a project
[20:57:11] <efdetonator> what might be?
[20:57:35] <dmiles_afk> i think also the import behavour can change depending on the the target JRE
[20:59:34] <dmiles_afk> unlikely thats your situation efdetonator ( the target JRE ) but i've projects must target diffenrt JREs and but all sorts of monkey bussiness results
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[21:10:35] <efdetonator> dmiles_afk: I found the solution, it was really my fault, I've created a source folder inside of a project, eclipse thought that folder was the only source, so it didn't care about the files outside the folder.
[21:10:48] <efdetonator> thanks you all got to go now
[21:10:51] <efdetonator> bye
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[21:13:34] <dmiles_afk> rcjsuen, the other week you asked if i was ussing a 3rd part c#/java interoprobility library, i think i need one now ;P.. which might be good?
[21:13:48] <dmiles_afk> 3rd party
[21:14:03] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: well, i was referring to Mainsoft
[21:14:09] <rcjsuen> I've never used it.
[21:14:10] <Zerone> ello rcjsuen :)
[21:14:13] <rcjsuen> Zerone: Hi
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[21:17:05] <xavier_> Hello RAP developers, have you ever used some kind of ConsoleView in a RAP application?
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[21:19:30] <vwegert> Hi all.
[21:19:42] <rcjsuen> vwegert: Hi
[21:20:04] <vwegert> What do you think - is there anything I can do to help resolve bug 216051 (my SWT-OSX-Java6 issue)?
[21:20:22] <vwegert> Some additional information I can supply, something else I could try out?
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[21:21:19] <cyrus__> How do I run a PHP project as a webpage. I clicked run as PHP WebPage and it opened up the browser to localhost/php-project/file.php and said not found
[21:21:33] <cyrus__> of course it isn't found because I haven't published to my webserver
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[21:25:21] <xavier_> I'd like to implement a console for quite a simple scripting language (RPN based), which should be visible in a RAP application. The console should behave like the console view in the eclipse IDE.
[21:25:33] <cyrus__> anyone?
[21:25:54] <xavier_> Since styled text widget is not available,yet, colours are not necessary, of course.
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[21:26:57] <jelly-bean> in the cvs repo explorer, what do the different icons mean? one is a reg. folder, but one is a folder that has some weird orange and white squares on it?
[21:27:12] <xavier_> But because the console view seems to be based on the Text widget, the console view should be usable.
[21:27:29] <rcjsuen> jelly-bean: that's the repository itself, and folders are, well, folders
[21:27:52] <xavier_> How would I start to open a console view in a RAP?
[21:29:07] <jelly-bean> rcjsuen: i've got :pserver:.... and then under that HEAD and then under that: contributions, CVSROOT, contributions, contributions/modules/icontheme, swish. the last 3 items are the ones w/ the weird folder icons (not the normal folder icon which are on the first two in that last level)
[21:29:09] <jelly-bean> maybe i need a screenshot
[21:29:28] <rcjsuen> jelly-bean: That would be helpful. ~image
[21:29:28] <KOS-MOS> Please upload your screenshots online - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
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[21:32:09] <jelly-bean> rcjsuen: http://imagebin.org/13408
[21:32:46] <rcjsuen> no idea, could be branches or versions, not sure
[21:32:56] <rcjsuen> or tags maybe i guess
[21:32:59] <jelly-bean> do you know what the duplicate 'contributions' is?
[21:33:05] <jelly-bean> im trying to decide which i should be committing to
[21:33:15] <rcjsuen> but i guess branches and versions would've been there already
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[21:55:29] <pombreda> Erik1: for Joomla with PHPEclipse you might you to make your whole site a project
[21:55:58] <pombreda> Erik1: LaurensVDP may be able to give you more hints tooo, and youc an also try on #phpeclipse
[21:56:18] <LaurensVDP> i heard my name :)
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[22:04:15] <Squid_g78r> hi can i ask something ?
[22:05:00] <rcjsuen> ~ask
[22:05:01] <KOS-MOS> If you have a question, just ask, don't ask if you can ask a question.
[22:05:52] <Squid_g78r> ty
[22:06:59] <Squid_g78r> if i write php code with eclipse can i make it after a stand alone application ? without the support of web server i.e apache ?
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[22:22:36] <Erik1> installing plugins and features is nice in eclipse. but how would I remove plugins and features ? just go into a terminal and rm stuff ?
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[22:23:38] <rcjsuen> Erik1: that's what i do
[22:23:55] <Erik1> is not dangeerous ?
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[22:25:00] <rcjsuen> Erik1: Well, like most things, that depends on whether you know what you're doing or not.
[22:26:38] <Erik1> ;-) ok
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[22:44:31] <cyrus__> how do I run a web app (PHP application) through Eclipse?
[22:45:10] <cyrus__> when I select Run As PHP Web Page it opens the browser to localhost. Problem is, the php files have not been published to my apache server running on localhost?
[22:48:15] <cyrus__> anyone?
[22:49:09] <dmiles_afk> php can work almost like HTMl would to a webserver as far as content goes
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[22:50:51] <cyrus__> okay...i understand that but when I am trying to test out my PHP project and click Run As PHP WebPage and the eclipse browser opens to localhost it is trying to connect to the apache webserver I have running
[22:50:59] <dmiles_afk> so i'd imagine whatever one does to make an html project "run" (publish) would be the same
[22:51:10] <cyrus__> but the project I have setup in eclipse is not published to that server
[22:51:29] <dmiles_afk> what happens if you ad one .jsp page as well?
[22:51:34] <cyrus__> plus, I don't want to have to publish to the server yet...doesn't eclipse have its own internal server
[22:52:51] <rcjsuen> Internal server?
[22:53:28] <dmiles_afk> well i am no expert .. i am just answering because no one else is, but ussualy what is internal (like for help) is just used per plugin host.. but the nornal tomcat/jsp server launchines in a jdwp context (like ant does)
[22:54:40] <dmiles_afk> it shows up in the debug view, and can live in your global tomcat directories
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[22:55:21] <cyrus__> rcjsuen - what I have is a PHP project (web page) setup in eclipse. The source code lives in my home directory. What I would like to do is run the web applciation to see how it looks/performs.
[22:55:43] <cyrus__> so I click Run as PHP WebPage and eclipse opens up my browser to localhost/index.php (index.php is the main file of the PHP web page)
[22:56:28] <cyrus__> and the web browser says - Not found - because I have not published the code to the web root of my web server that runs on my machine. Isn't there a way that eclipse can still run this without having publish to the webserver?
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[22:56:53] <rcjsuen> dunno, i don't do php
[22:57:20] <dmiles_afk> cyrus__, open up the "servers" view .. and add a new server.. i think you can set it up to use your system wide config
[22:58:33] <cyrus__> how do I open up the servers view
[22:58:55] <dmiles_afk> windows .. new view..
[22:59:34] <dmiles_afk> erm widows->show view->other
[23:00:03] <dmiles_afk> this depends on WST plugins though
[23:00:24] <cyrus__> k
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[23:00:36] <cyrus__> also, when I start up eclipse it opens ports 9000, 8118 and others
[23:00:39] <cyrus__> anyone know what these are for
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[23:01:02] <dmiles_afk> there are quite a few add Help -> software updates -> install new features-> eclipse update sites
[23:01:08] <dmiles_afk> add/at
[23:01:56] <richie> hi, when i do Project->clean... my packages with sources disappear from the explorer, how to fix that?
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[23:03:15] <dmiles_afk> richie, use package explorer instead of project explorer
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[23:06:19] <richie> dmiles_afk: project explorer is for J2EE perspective, it seems i have to switch to java perspective?
[23:06:49] <richie> i code J2EE btw
[23:07:25] <dmiles_afk> you should be able to open the package expolorer as well from widows->show view->other
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[23:08:08] <Zerone> n8 *
[23:08:29] <richie> ah yes right
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[23:08:53] <dmiles_afk> package explorer and project explorer overlap in function alot.. but sometimes one or the other have specialized functionality
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[23:09:16] <richie> thank you dmiles_afk
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[23:54:38] <Wolfman2000> Afternoon/evening. I'm trying to find a PHP Debugger, and while I found one for Eclipse, I do not have the right version of Eclipse. I have 3.3.1.*, while PHP Eclipse is meant for 3.1.*. Is there a way to force it to work? (I'm on Mac OS X Leopard if that matters too)
[23:55:16] <rcjsuen> I thought phpeclipse made a build for 3.3
[23:55:23] <Wolfman2000> I haven't seen it on their website
[23:56:05] <rcjsuen> pombreda: ?
[23:56:26] <Wolfman2000> http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=57621 No 3.3.x :(
[23:57:09] <rcjsuen> Wolfman2000: so what doesn't work
[23:57:27] <Wolfman2000> rcjsuen: I haven't tried it yet. It says it's for a different version.
[23:57:37] <Wolfman2000> I do not have the version of Eclipse they want
[23:57:41] <rcjsuen> http://www.phpeclipse.de/tiki-view_forum_thread.php?forumId=5&comments_parentId=3792
[23:58:13] <Wolfman2000> Nightly: got it
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