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[00:04:52] <donavan> Is CDT on topic in here?
[00:05:14] <zx> possibly, very few CDT committers hang out here unfortunately though
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[00:09:44] <donavan> Heh, I'll try anyway. --- I have C++ makefile based project that compiles into the same directory as the source code.  Eclipse in the "Project Explorer" tab shows all these files.  Is there a way to exclude .o and other none source files automagically?
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[00:13:32] <philk_> I have 3 product configurations that should share the same splash screen and about texts... how could I achive this?
[00:14:52] <robinr> donavan: In the package explorer you can use the ? menu and change the filters
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[00:51:48] <d_a_carver> donovan you might want to check the CDT FAQ but the only thing on exclusions I found there was how to exclude the .o files from the make file compilation.
[00:51:59] <d_a_carver> ~tell donovan about cdt-faq
[00:52:00] <KOS-MOS> donovan: Looking for all of the answers related to CDT, or just most of them?  Check out the mighty CDT-FAQ (http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/CDT/User/FAQ).
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[00:54:43] <donavan> d_a_carver: are you looking at the same FAQ?
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[01:26:27] <d_a_carver> donavan: yeah, I checked that FAQ out, didn't see how to have the Project Explorer, or Navigator exclude those files from the list.  I would have figured it would have done it already.  You are using CDT 4.0 right?
[01:27:52] <donavan> d_a_carver: 4.0.1 even.
[01:28:28] <d_a_carver> donavan: did you check the CDT newsgroup?
[01:30:21] <d_a_carver> donavan: does CDT have the concept of a source folder?
[01:30:50] <d_a_carver> If so, you might check to see if you can have a way to tell it to include or exclude certain patterns from the source folder.
[01:32:03] <d_a_carver> well...I need food, and a break from the computer.  later.
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[03:37:33] <yi> hi, eclipse will not start for me anymore on OSX, I get the following error message:
[03:37:34] <yi> 1/23/08 6:36:43 PM [0x0-0x13b13b].org.eclipse.eclipse[16301] Exception in thread "Thread-1" java.lang.InternalError: Can't start the AWT because Java was started on the first thread.  Make sure StartOnFirstThread is not specified in your application's Info.plist or on the command line
[03:37:44] <yi> any idea how to fix this?
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[03:45:27] <konigsberg> Good afternoon. I'm having trouble where plug-in A depends on B. A has a builder that uses something in B after B.stop is called. How can I learn about bundle shutdown order?
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[04:03:26] <Gevaudan82> Hey guys...I'm having trouble getting files with the .html extention in my source folder getting copied over to my classes folder...files of .java and .properties work fine...I was under the impression everything was copied over to the classes folder unless otherwise specified...any ideas what I can do aside from manually added the extentions I want?
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[04:05:49] <bladezor> Hi, does anyone know how to change the background color of the tool-tip window in Eclipse?
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[04:20:56] <krbarnes> anyone using Leopard? I'm trying to reproduce crash when printing a file and could use some help.
[04:21:03] <krbarnes> ~216173
[04:21:04] <KOS-MOS> See bug 216173 - Print crashes Eclipse 3.3.1 on Mac OS 10.5 - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=216173
[04:22:34] <modoc> Gevaudan82: I don't see any problems in the screenshot.  Give me a minute to check something.
[04:22:58] <Gevaudan82> k, thank you...it could be a bug w/ MyEclipse
[04:23:26] <modoc> possibly, but I couldn't say.  I have a project with a .html file in a java source folder.  Let me see what it does.
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[04:24:52] <modoc> looks like eclipse copies the .html file to the build folder.  I'll try cleaning and rebuilding just to be sure.
[04:26:36] <Gevaudan82> I just created a separate project in my workspace (a java project whereas my other is a web project) and test.html still did not get copied over even after a clean and rebuild
[04:27:24] <modoc> Eclipse seems to be copying my html file to the build folder.
[04:28:05] <Gevaudan82> thank you for checking on this...I'll create a bug report w/ MyEclipse
[04:28:08] <modoc> Gevaudan82: the only plugin of interest I have is for maven2.
[04:28:20] <modoc> I can't imagine that it would copy anything around like that.
[04:29:05] <modoc> Gevaudan82: have you tried a workspace that doesn't have myeclipse and do the same thing there?
[04:29:24] <Gevaudan82> ...trying
[04:32:51] <Gevaudan82> interesting...it might be my workspace...i just created a new myeclipse workspace, created a new project and test.html was copied over...not a huge deal if I have to recreate my workspace but let me see if there is a clean command for workspaces
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[04:36:19] <Gevaudan82> Perfect! running -clean on eclipse startup fixed whatever the problem was
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[04:42:11] <rcjsuen> BlackBerry Dev Day, whta a joke, where's my open source, RIM?
[04:43:20] <rcjsuen> konigsberg: What d oyou mean learn? Listen for bundle start/stop in the framework?
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[04:50:26] <rcjsuen_> bladezor: Depends on what tooltip you're talking about, preferences might have something
[04:50:52] <bladezor> rcjsuen, in the following image -> http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/435/screenshotccoeframeworkyl5.png
[04:50:58] <bladezor> The one with the pale yellow bg
[04:51:53] <rcjsuen_> konigsberg, just adding a BundleListener to your BundleContext should do, but sounds weird for your builder to do stuff after stop() is called if A needs B, but anyway
[04:52:17] <rcjsuen_> bladezor: I dunno, you'd have to check your CDT or text editor preferences.
[04:52:32] <rcjsuen_> Those could theoretically be a custom control created by CDT, or using the standard one from the Platform.
[04:52:37] <bladezor> Yea I don't see anything for it anywhere
[04:53:19] <rcjsuen_> bladezor: Window > Preferences > Editors?
[04:53:26] <rcjsuen_> or possibly in Window > Preferences > General > Appearance i guess
[04:53:44] <rcjsuen_> If not it might be time to file an enhancement request.
[04:55:58] <bladezor> hmm
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[05:06:26] <tifine> hello
[05:06:41] <tifine> looking for myeclipse cd key or crack if somebody knows :(
[05:11:09] <bladezor> ...
[05:13:09] <krbarnes> tifine: isn't myeclipse only $32?
[05:13:40] <tifine> only $32 is alot of money for me!
[05:14:38] <tifine> kbarnes:  only $32 is alot of money for me!
[05:14:47] <tifine> kbarnes:  do u have the key ?
[05:14:52] <krbarnes> no
[05:20:48] <nmatrix9> tifine, wtf what do you do?
[05:21:08] <tifine> i m a developer!
[05:21:23] <nmatrix9> tifine, and you can't afford 32 dollars?
[05:21:26] <nmatrix9> bullsh*t
[05:21:59] <nmatrix9> for one freaking year
[05:22:01] <nmatrix9> ?
[05:22:09] <tifine> nmatrix9: oh come on man u know i believe in the concept of freedom you know opensource !!!
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[05:23:06] <tifine> nmatrix9: i dont pay for windows becoz i dont use it, i use linux, ubuntu free no copyright !!
[05:23:07] <nmatrix9> tifine, if we were talking about a couple hundred bucks then yeah but 32 freaking dollars?  That also includes live support
[05:24:02] <nmatrix9> tifine, opensource does not necessarily mean "free" I suggest you look up the definition
[05:24:29] <tifine> nmatrix9: yes my friend i m not in  a position to spend $30 but hopefully i will get it.
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[05:25:11] <bladezor> If that's the case
[05:25:15] <bladezor> You don't really need it
[05:25:18] * krbarnes wonders why anyone would want software that wasn't worth $32
[05:25:43] <nmatrix9> bladezor, if thats the case then you don't really need it
[05:25:52] <nmatrix9> I mean as bladezor said
[05:26:31] <nmatrix9> tifine, 32 dollars is too much?  Are you serious what you do spend all your money on women and crack?
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[05:27:22] <tifine> nmatrix9: i m girl just love to drink sleep with hard men u know wat i mean :)
[05:27:27] <nmatrix9> please say yes because then at least that removes the suspicion that you are just a really really crappy developer
[05:27:29] <tifine> oh well i guess i m in wrong forum here everybody is just love to pay i think u shud give that money to charity to help poor peoples dman idiots@
[05:28:17] <nmatrix9> tifine, even a college student could afford that
[05:28:38] <tifine> okie then u pay for mine and send me the cd key :p
[05:28:41] <nmatrix9> probally spend that amount on money on wild friday night
[05:28:46] <bladezor> If you're that desperate...beg?
[05:28:51] <bladezor> Blow job or two?
[05:28:55] <nmatrix9> lol
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[05:29:22] <tifine> true bladezor i think i shud take ur sisiter too
[05:29:38] <bladezor> Sick, oh god no, no you don't
[05:30:02] <nmatrix9> tifine, are you just starting to learn to program? (serious question)
[05:30:40] <tifine> nmatrix9: how long u have been in development and where u from ?
[05:32:02] <nmatrix9> tifine, about 8 years that includes 4 in a formal eduacation (university) but I guess my "real" education didn't start until the years outside of school
[05:32:15] <nmatrix9> tifine, Iam from Canada
[05:32:56] <nmatrix9> tifine, but if you want you could actually build your own setup just like eclipse, it's just that it'd be a lot more tedious
[05:33:05] <nmatrix9> *like myeclipse
[05:33:45] <tifine> namtrix: like my eclipse ?
[05:34:59] <nmatrix9> tifine, no "myeclipse"
[05:35:19] <tifine> nmatrix9: then!
[05:35:52] <rcjsuen_> wow, should've been reading #eclipse
[05:36:05] <nmatrix9> rcjsuen_, :)
[05:36:20] <rcjsuen_> nice going, you had me for a sec, now i realize you're just trolling to piss us off
[05:36:57] <nmatrix9> rcjsuen_, I don't know I think he's serious
[05:37:36] <tifine> :)
[05:37:40] <rcjsuen_> nmatrix9: Serious or not, it has become obvious that tifine refuses to listen to what we have to say and refuses to pay the MyEclipse team $32 for a MyEclipse license.
[05:38:07] <rcjsuen_> tifine: If you don't want to fork out 32 bucks, so be it.
[05:38:46] <tifine> nmatrix9:  a new entry a new villon  rcjsuen_
[05:38:51] <nmatrix9> rcjsuen_, the fact he claims to be a developer and can't afford 32 dollars either means he's 12 years old and hasn't got his allowance from his parents yet, or he is one really crappy developer.
[05:39:17] <rcjsuen_> tifine: New villain, you say?
[05:39:40] <tifine> nmatrix: i thnk second one suits more on me though
[05:39:40] <nmatrix9> tifine, go to rentacoder, do like 3 jobs match and you'll easily make that money
[05:39:46] <nmatrix9> real simple jobs
[05:39:55] <nmatrix9> tifine, rentacoder.com
[05:40:15] <tifine> nmatrix: oh see every kid know about rentacoder.com!
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[05:40:49] <nmatrix9> tifine, the guys at myeclipse are doing a great job and are actually helping out the opensource community and it really irks me when someone is trying to screw them over,  they've just started and their not a big company
[05:42:01] <tifine> nmatrix9: so
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[05:43:27] <sknh> Hi. Can anyone help me out with setting up eclipse PDT and xdebug?
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[05:44:01] <sknh> I get an error saying incompatible server version
[05:44:06] <dewd> Does anyone know how to edit the phpdoc template ?
[05:44:07] <tifine> sknh: sure nmatrix can help you out got 8 years experience
[05:44:21] <dewd> I want to automaticly insert some extra stuff
[05:44:43] <sknh> tifine: nmatrix9?
[05:44:56] <dewd> I tried adding them to templates with phpdoc context but it doesn't work
[05:45:18] <sknh> nmatrix9: hi, can you help me out with eclipse pdt and xdebug?
[05:45:29] <tifine> sknh: he is genious 8 years experience, brilliant
[05:46:24] <sknh> tifine: thanks for suggesting him... hope he does help me out
[05:46:54] <tifine> sknh: he is damn genious, eclipse is nothing for him !
[05:48:10] <dewd> Should this even be possible via the normal interface or is this hardcoded somewhere ?
[05:48:22] <dewd> the help file is not very helpfull
[05:49:44] <tifine> sknh: i think nmatrix9 is busy doing some jobs on rentacoder.com !!!
[05:50:08] <sknh> tifine: ok
[05:58:24] <dewd> not possible to add @author ${user} and @since ${date} to auto generated phpdoc thingy ?
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[06:09:56] <dewd> to which mailinglist should I direct my question ? Is there an user mailing list for application usage help, i can't seem to find onein the faq
[06:16:58] <rcjsuen> dewd: try the pdt newsgroup
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[06:22:08] <dewd> there only appear to be dev lists for pdt but I'll try
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[06:36:06] <Appleman1234> java.net.URI cannot be cast to org.eclipse.emf.common.util.URI
[06:36:19] <Appleman1234> why is there to different URIs :(
[06:37:21] <Appleman1234> are how do I specify a specific one
[06:41:07] <Appleman1234> two*
[06:41:13] <Appleman1234> and*
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[07:28:41] <Appleman1234> it works now
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[07:37:17] <rawake> hello, I just wanted to fire up eclipse for the first time today and all of a sudden its broken... I get this error from the command line...  Details: serial 1082 error_code 11 request_code 147 minor_code 5 ... here is the full error http://rafb.net/p/8jT8nM59.txt
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[09:44:07] <zipito> can someone help me with eclipse
[09:44:16] <zipito> when I start it in console I get
[09:44:17] <zipito> *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/eclipse/eclipse: double free or corruption (!prev): 0x087048d8 ***
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[11:24:47] <MarcWeber> Anyone using pdt ? After removing / readding a project to the workbench Eclipse still shows the old function locations (using Meta-Shift-g). Of course I've tried --clean and F5. Any other ideas?
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[11:26:19] <Roberto> holas
[11:26:32] <Roberto> i need eclipse in spanish
[11:26:39] <Roberto> were located?
[11:27:06] <Roberto> donde encuentro eclipse en español
[11:27:08] <Roberto> ??
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[12:06:51] <Arcalyth> o lawd was dat sum netsplit?
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[12:27:31] <MrStein> Hi! Is there no channel for the CDT plugin ?
[12:27:56] <lemmy> MrStein, you could try the cdt newsgroup
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[12:30:25] <MrStein> 10x
[12:31:22] <lemmy> or simply raise your question here and hope for the best
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[12:40:19] <Kako> z4z4: hallo again, after reading some bugs i know now a little more. The problem is, that eclipse prunes directories with not used CVS subdirs (eclipse delete the CVS-subdirs). That is the reason why I couldn't do any cvs-action.
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[13:17:53] <tafsen> I can't eclipse to start! :( http://pastebin.archlinux.org/24797
[13:17:58] <tafsen> *get
[13:19:42] <lemmy> tafsen, is libqt3-mt on your system? and what system do you run anyway?
[13:19:56] <tafsen> Arch Linux
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[13:21:50] <tafsen> lemmy: And yes, it's on my system
[13:22:21] <tafsen> Where is eclipse searcing for it?
[13:22:29] <lemmy> tafsen, try to run ldconfig
[13:23:18] <tafsen> lemmy: What does that do?
[13:23:30] <lemmy> it updates the linker cache: man ldconfig
[13:23:45] <tafsen> lemmy: Same error
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[13:26:03] <tafsen> after I ran that command
[13:26:57] <lemmy> what does ldconfig -p |grep qt show?
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[13:27:44] <tafsen> http://pastebin.archlinux.org/24798
[13:28:08] <lemmy> But after rereading your problem again, it might be unrelated to the crash. after all it's just a GTK-warning
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[13:29:06] <lemmy> You're sure about libqt3-mt being installed on your system? the linker isn't able to find it.
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[13:31:24] <MrStein> CDT question: is there a way to click on an include line in C source and have eclipse open the included file ?
[13:32:08] <MrStein> also, occurence highlighting does not work. I suspect it is due to parsing problem. Any idea how to troubleshoot it ? logs ?
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[13:47:20] <MarcWeber> MrStein: I haven't used CTD yet. But I think it should support it. Just guessing: Have you opened the file with the CDT editor ? (Explorer -> open with editor)? Have you defined the include paths?
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[14:01:08] <MrStein> martinkli: I did not define any include paths. But F3 works. In some cases ....
[14:01:31] <MrStein> eh, the last line was for MarcWeber
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[14:04:29] <rcjsuen> rawake: Ubuntu error with xorg i think that is
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[14:45:20] <shampoonator> hi
[14:45:51] <shampoonator> I got some Eclipse 3.2 Plugins, what i want to do is to deploy them as an rcp
[14:46:36] <shampoonator> is there an easy way to do that? or do i have to write my own "rcp main" plugin?
[14:46:42] <lemmy> shampoonator, throw them into your RCP and see those bundles get loaded
[14:47:34] <shampoonator> well the problem is.. it doesnt work.. the plugin has a navigator, and the navigator doesnt work in the rcp (in eclipse it does)
[14:47:57] <shampoonator> i i havve no clue why it doesnt..
[14:48:13] <shampoonator> no errorlogs, no exceptions.. no nothing
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[14:50:14] <rcjsuen> ~logs
[14:50:15] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[14:50:54] <shampoonator> well what i mean is.. there is no error in the logs :(
[14:51:05] <shampoonator> (due to bad programmer skills i guess :D)
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[14:55:01] <lemmy> shampoonator, do you have the sources at your hand?
[14:55:09] <shampoonator> yes
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[14:55:23] <lemmy> shampoonator, happy debugging ;)
[14:55:33] <shampoonator> lol i knew you would say that
[14:55:39] <shampoonator> *sigh*
[14:56:00] <shampoonator> thx :)
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[15:35:10] <Algognito> hi, im a fedora noob and need bit help with installing visual class
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[15:58:52] <tobias> If all I want is basic HTML editing support in Eclipse, do I really need to install WST ?
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[15:59:23] <paulweb515> tobias: unless you can find an HTML plugin on plugin central
[15:59:25] <paulweb515> ~plugins
[15:59:25] <KOS-MOS> Look for plug-ins at the Eclipse Plug-in Central (http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/) and EclipsePlugins (http://eclipse-plugins.info)
[15:59:44] <tobias> paulweb515: thanks, i'll take a look
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[16:05:20] <slickming> is there ftp/sftp plugin for eclipse 3.* ?
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[16:07:31] <paulweb515> slickming: there is something in TDM? TRM?
[16:07:37] <paulweb515> ~TMD
[16:07:42] <paulweb515> ~TDM
[16:07:49] <zx|work> ~TM
[16:07:53] <paulweb515> ~TRM
[16:07:54] <zx|work> it should be TM :)
[16:08:06] <slickming> TM ?
[16:08:09] <paulweb515> maybe I've upset 'im
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[16:09:33] <paulweb515> slickming: http://wiki.eclipse.org/EFS
[16:09:45] <paulweb515> ~DTM
[16:09:52] <zx|work> http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
[16:09:56] <zx|work> Also I believe TM had something
[16:10:11] <paulweb515> zx|work: yeah, it's part of  Remote System Explorer
[16:10:36] <slickming> i will try both
[16:10:40] <paulweb515> slickming: http://wiki.eclipse.org/EFS#Remote_System_Explorer_.28SSH.2C_FTP.2C_dstore.29
[16:10:50] <paulweb515> slickming: I think zx|work and I are talking about the same thing :-)
[16:11:03] <slickming> ok
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[16:48:52] <slickming> sweet, it works great
[16:49:17] <Tamm0r> hi everyone
[16:49:25] <Tamm0r> i need some help with headless build
[16:51:29] <Tamm0r> while building i get an java.io.EOFException in assemble.<feature>.xml
[16:53:59] <Tamm0r> nevermind, problem is as good as solved
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[17:20:26] <Mrdini> hullo all
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[17:25:32] * Mrdini stabs an eclipse user he's working with.... can anyone tell me why his text files end up getting extra lines
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[17:26:08] <paulweb515> Mrdini: extra lines in what way?  Every time he saves it adds a blank line to the end?  What editor is he using?
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[17:26:32] <Mrdini> eclipse - extra spaces as in extra CR/LFs on each line
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[17:27:05] <nitind> Extra both, or CR+LF instead of just CR or LF?
[17:27:11] <nitind> And which editor?
[17:27:13] <paulweb515> Mrdini: are they working on a share? Samba or windows?
[17:27:16] <Mrdini> I said Eclipse
[17:27:27] <Mrdini> paul, SFTP to our web server
[17:27:41] <nitind> Eclipse can host many many different editors.
[17:28:08] <Mrdini> nitind, ah - so how do I determine which editor  he's using?
[17:28:39] <Mrdini> <--- not an eclipse user, just an incredibly farked off user :) (due to his code looking like crap :P)
[17:29:15] <nitind> Mrdini: The Open With context menu of the file will indicate which one he last used, or the default if he's never edited that file.
[17:29:52] <nitind> Mrdini: But again, extra both, or CR+LF instead of just CR or LF?
[17:30:11] <Mrdini> ok, just checked - extra CRs
[17:30:33] <rcjsuen> paulweb515: it's case sensitive still, unfortunately ~tm
[17:30:33] <KOS-MOS> Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
[17:31:15] <nitind> Mrdini: So to complete the scenario, which editor, and what's expected vs. what's happening?
[17:32:06] <Mrdini> php editor(?)
[17:33:12] <Mrdini> as I said, extra CRs on each & every line which shouldn't be there
[17:33:35] <nitind> There's more than one PHP editor out there.  Which of those?
[17:34:17] <Mrdini> checking
[17:34:59] <Mrdini> how can he find out?
[17:35:13] <Mrdini> he says "Default one for PHP projects"
[17:35:30] <nitind> Would it be rude for me to ask you to smack him around a bit?
[17:35:41] <Mrdini> nitind, not at all :D
[17:36:17] <Mrdini> HALLEJUAH
[17:36:21] <nitind> Mrdini: I would hope he remembered where it came from, possible licensing issues and all.
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[17:36:31] <Mrdini> ok, he found it - line delimiters were set for windows
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[17:37:09] <Mrdini> who on earth sets that when working with PHP
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[17:40:50] <nitind> d_a_carver: Out of curiosity, who wrote the news post announcing the XSL milestone?
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[17:41:06] <Mrdini> ah well, thanks nitind anyway
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[17:44:43] <huhlig> good morning
[17:45:00] <huhlig> is this an appropriate question for SWT as well as eclipse or am I in the wrong place
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[17:52:51] <d_a_carver> nitind: david williams
[17:53:21] <d_a_carver> nitind: I sent similar postings to xml-dev, and xsl-list
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[17:58:52] <d_a_carver> huhlig: just ask the question and if somebody knows they'll respond.
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[18:00:44] <huhlig> ok, I am trying to build a Tree. In Swing you use a tree model and it handles all the functions neccessary to fill the table, if you need to update date you simply change models
[18:01:14] <huhlig> on SWT tree however you seem to need to build a tree of treeitem objects to acomplish the same task
[18:01:17] <huhlig> am I missing something?
[18:01:27] <huhlig> or is there a simpler way to do it
[18:01:43] <njbartlett> huhlig: Yes there is a simpler way
[18:01:55] <njbartlett> huhlig: There's a whole library called JFace which sits on top of SWT
[18:02:20] <njbartlett> In this case you would create a TreeViewer on top of the Tree, and supply it with a TreeContentProvider
[18:03:09] <huhlig> ahh, so your not supposed to use swt by itself normally
[18:03:11] <huhlig> ok
[18:04:12] <njbartlett> Well you can if you want. But typically you would use the higher level stuff in JFace.
[18:04:44] <huhlig> ok
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[18:06:25] <huhlig> I take it is preinstalled with eclipse
[18:06:36] <huhlig> since I cant find an entry anywhere for it
[18:06:36] <njbartlett> huhlig: YEs
[18:06:39] <huhlig> ok
[18:08:27] <huhlig> so normally you build with swt and then when something tedius comes up you use jface components
[18:08:32] <huhlig> is this a correct assumption?
[18:09:43] <njbartlett> huhlig: Sort of. SWT provides the low-level components themselves. JFace provides a kind of MVC library on top of SWT, which is normally need for the more complex controls like trees, tables, pre-defined dialogs, etc.
[18:10:07] <njbartlett> However for simple stuff like a Button, you wouldn't need JFace.
[18:10:11] <huhlig> ok
[18:10:29] <huhlig> so you still create displays, ctabfolders shells using swt directly
[18:10:38] <njbartlett> Yes
[18:10:39] <huhlig> but a tree or dialog you would use jface for
[18:10:44] <huhlig> ok makes sense
[18:10:56] <huhlig> I gave up on swing
[18:11:07] <njbartlett> Well, you would create the Tree control using "new Tree(parent, style)" etc, and then you would wrap it with a TreeViewer
[18:11:12] <huhlig> it was like pulling teeth speed wise for some odd reason
[18:11:17] <huhlig> ok
[18:12:05] <njbartlett> The point about JFace is it doesn't hide the lower layer SWT, it just provides some useful stuff on top. So you don't lose any control over the details.
[18:12:33] <huhlig> cool
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[18:16:33] <mutable> hello, i checked out the project from cvs, but i just chose to create new project in workspace (without new project wizard), now i have some "generic" project in workspace and i would like to convert it to java project. is it possible? if not what is that "generic" project?
[18:16:50] <rcjsuen> mutable: no you can't just switch things like that
[18:17:04] <mutable> rcjsuen: so what is that project?
[18:17:15] <mutable> rcjsuen: what kind
[18:18:12] <rcjsuen> it is probably "nothing"
[18:18:15] <rcjsuen> a "generic" nothingness
[18:18:22] <multi_io> is it possible to tell the debugger to stop as soon as any piece of code in a given package is reached?
[18:18:25] <rcjsuen> not that that was grammatically correct, but anyway
[18:18:51] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: could add the java nature to the project, and that would give the java project functionality.  I've done that many a time.
[18:19:03] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: yes, but there's no UI to that
[18:19:12] <d_a_carver> right..have to edit the .project file.
[18:19:16] <rcjsuen> mutable: so yes, you can add it by hand
[18:19:18] <rcjsuen> but there's no UI
[18:19:58] <d_a_carver> kids and their uis. :)
[18:21:10] <mutable> rcjsuen: i like idea from intellij idea, where each project is generic and you just add some "facets", like web, spring. i still can't understand eclipse project philosophy
[18:21:33] <rcjsuen> we just said you can
[18:21:34] <rcjsuen> there's just no UI
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[18:21:42] <FReeZ> Hi
[18:21:50] <mutable> rcjsuen: how please?
[18:22:15] <d_a_carver> mutable: create a new java project.  Go into that new java project, open a file called .project
[18:22:55] <d_a_carver> In there find the buildSpec and natures elements, copy them.  Open your generic projects .project file.
[18:23:12] <rcjsuen> FReeZ: hi
[18:23:17] <d_a_carver> Paste over the empty buildspec and natures elements with the ones you copied from the other file.
[18:23:32] <FReeZ> I use Eclipse PDT project for a complex PHP project. The main disadvantage is it doesn't make the suggestions when I use the multilevel variables such as $controller->$privilegies->$main->, is it possible to fix it? It works only for $controller->
[18:23:35] <d_a_carver> Save the file, and you should now hae a java project.
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[18:26:11] <rcjsuen> FReeZ: check bugzilla, someone's probably filed a bug
[18:26:15] <mutable> d_a_carver: i see, thanks
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[18:27:01] <rcjsuen> i think we have an faq for the nature in IRC FAQ
[18:27:04] <rcjsuen> but that's for pdt i think
[18:27:07] <rcjsuen> but the basic idea is there
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[18:32:48] <FReeZ> rcjsuen, thank you, I've looked at the 250 bugs with keyword "suggestion", but no one is about the issue I've just described. Does it mean I should make a bug report?
[18:33:11] <rcjsuen> FReeZ: sure
[18:33:16] <rcjsuen> FReeZ: if it's a duplicate, they'll mark it as one
[18:33:36] <FReeZ> rcjsuen, ok, THX, bye
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[18:37:09] <nitind> "suggestion"?  Not just using the severity "enhancement"?
[18:39:47] <rcjsuen> content assist would probably be the proper word
[18:39:58] <rcjsuen> nitind: think FReeZ meant "code completion suggestion" kinda thang
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[18:44:04] <konigsberg_> Thanks rcjsuen
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[18:44:23] <rcjsuen> konigsberg_: i don't know what you're doing though, sounds pretty weird
[18:44:27] <mrynit> Findbugs gives me this error M C UwF: Unwritten field: Vehicle.my_initial_direction but i have this code private Direction my_initial_direction;
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[18:45:06] <mrynit> it does like this:     my_direction = my_initial_direction;
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[18:51:42] <Bonaparte> Hi. I am running eclipse for the first time.
[18:51:47] <Bonaparte> I am using Fedora 8
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[18:52:18] <Bonaparte> The browser won't open the file. It gives me cannot connect message
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[18:52:33] <Bonaparte> Any idea what I am doing wrong?
[18:52:42] <nitind> Which file?
[18:53:15] <Bonaparte> I created a php file
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[18:54:24] <Bonaparte> I right click on the file on the Project Explorer and click on Open PHP Browser
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[18:57:57] <Bonaparte> On the RUN window, the Run button is disabled
[18:58:11] <Bonaparte> Similarly the Debug button is disabled on the Debug window
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[19:03:25] <Bonaparte> In the PHP Browser the URL is http://localhost:37571/second/second.php
[19:04:01] <Bonaparte> Is it generate correctly? I must be missing something basic.
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[19:14:27] <nitind> Firewall settings?
[19:15:55] <Bonaparte> nitind, firewall is stopped
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[19:18:09] <Bonaparte> What setting can enable the Debug and Run buttons on respective windows?
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[19:47:40] <cyrus__> I have downloaded a plugin called Shelled (since I could not find it via the find and install feature). How do I install it?
[19:49:47] <rcjsuen> cyrus__: well, what did you download
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[19:54:29] <LaurensVDP> v
[19:55:58] <cyrus__> http://sourceforge.net/projects/shelled
[19:56:07] <cyrus__> rcjsuen - the shelled plugin.
[19:56:27] <rcjsuen> cyrus__: I mean, what do you have? Zip file? Jar file? What's in the zip file?
[19:57:12] <cyrus__> well, it is a zip file, once extracted it contains a jar
[19:58:01] <rcjsuen> cyrus__: one jar file?
[19:58:54] <cyrus__> multiple, spread over a few directories
[19:59:06] <cyrus__> I am going to try and just put the contents into the .ecplise/plugin directory
[19:59:16] <rcjsuen> I wouldn't.
[19:59:20] <rcjsuen> cyrus__: what are these directories?
[19:59:33] <rcjsuen> so you mean zip -> jar -> folders inside jar?
[20:00:02] <cyrus__> yes
[20:00:09] <rcjsuen> cyrus__: what are these directories?
[20:00:13] <cyrus__> the directories are line com.shelled.ui-1.0.2
[20:00:19] <cyrus__> and inside appears to be a java applicatoin
[20:00:29] <rcjsuen> what an odd setup
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[20:05:57] <cyrus__> rcjsuen - any ideas
[20:06:02] <cyrus__> what should be in this file
[20:06:19] <rcjsuen> cyrus__: what's inside that other folder?
[20:06:58] <cyrus__> they just all appear to be java applications
[20:07:09] <cyrus__> they are much the same as the plugins installed in the .ecplise/plugin directory
[20:07:13] <rcjsuen> how come the zip i downloaded
[20:07:17] <rcjsuen> has a features/ and plugins/ folder
[20:07:20] <rcjsuen> and not one jar file
[20:07:36] <cyrus__> the jar fiel is in plugins directory
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[20:07:48] <rcjsuen> Okay, I see waht you're saying now
[20:07:49] <rcjsuen> ~manage
[20:07:50] <KOS-MOS> Manage your Eclipse environment - http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-ecl-manage/
[20:08:00] <rcjsuen> you can choose to read that
[20:08:07] <rcjsuen> or put plugins/ in plugins/ and features/ in features/
[20:08:18] <rcjsuen> and then use ~clean
[20:08:19] <KOS-MOS> Please try restarting Eclipse with the '-clean' argument. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_have_just_installed_a_plug-in_but_I_do_not_see_any_indication_of_it_in_my_workspace._What_do_I_do.3F
[20:08:49] <cyrus__> thank you
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[20:42:23] <jamiejackson> is there a way to specify a given subdirectory _level_ in a file search? "/*/*" doesn't work...
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[20:47:11] <Gizmore> hola, i have checked in an svn project. how can i assign this project to Java or PHP, that i can use code-completition and stuff ?
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[20:48:15] <Gizmore> currently it seems that this project is assigned as plaintext, tho syntax highlighting seems gine
[20:48:18] <Gizmore> *fine
[20:49:47] <Gizmore> maybe i did something wrong while creating a new svn project ?
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[20:50:52] <Almindor> is there any 64bit eclipse for linux package? (3.3.x) I didn't see any 64 bit option in downloads
[20:51:07] <rcjsuen> Almindor: www.eclipse.org/epp/
[20:51:22] <triggate> Giz, I had that same problem with a CVS project.  Trying to remember the order in which I fixed it.
[20:51:37] <Gizmore> thank you triggate :)
[20:52:15] <Almindor> rcjsuen, thanks
[20:53:38] <rcjsuen> Gizmore: you need to modify your .project file so it knows it's a java project or whatever
[20:53:42] <rcjsuen> or just use Checkout As...
[20:54:19] <Gizmore> hmm ok. so i try to check in next time properly, also i will take a peek at .project. thanks a lot for the tip
[20:54:19] <triggate> It is something about creating the CVS project inside a new java project.
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[20:54:32] <triggate> When you created the SVN project, did it prompt you for creating another project?
[20:54:47] <Gizmore> hmm nope (iirc)
[20:55:38] <triggate> lemme create another test one. :)  I have forgotten..
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[20:58:00] <triggate> ok, I dont have SVN, but when creating a new CVS project, I get to pick the module from the repository.  I am then prompted "Choose how to check out folder foo".
[20:58:28] <triggate> Pick the option "check out as a project using the new project wizard".
[20:58:54] <Gizmore> hmm ok. thank you. ill try it out next time our svn is connectable
[20:59:13] <triggate> It will then bring up what appears to be the same dialog box, only this time you pick a "java project".
[20:59:37] <Gizmore> yeah, so i always checked in wrong :)
[20:59:53] <triggate> Took me forever to figure that out.
[21:00:24] <Gizmore> hehe, i supposed that i did it wrong, but i always noticed it a bit too late
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[21:05:42] <plexq> where do I put properties files so that they end up in a JAR that I export?  and how do I get them into the class path so they get found with class.getResourceAsStream();
[21:06:01] <plexq> (not when in a JAR,  when I'm just running from eclipse)
[21:06:32] <kaje1> Is there a way to add and remove buttons from the toolbar in eclipse? I'm in the java perspective and I'd like to have a toolbar button to generate javadoc...
[21:07:05] <rcjsuen> kaje1: well, you can add/remove stuff
[21:07:09] <rcjsuen> that kinda assumes, there is such "stuff"
[21:07:14] <rcjsuen> or youcould write a plug-in
[21:07:34] <rcjsuen> plexq: wherever your .java file is
[21:07:46] <plexq> in the src/ directory?
[21:08:42] <rcjsuen> yes, it should copy those accordingly as needed
[21:09:38] <plexq> what about things like image files?  Where is the best place to put those?
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[21:10:32] <kaje1> rcjsuen: how do you add/remove stuff?
[21:11:18] <Gizmore> plexq: as long as the files are in src/ (or src/blub) they will be in the .jar, and you can access them with getResourceAsStrem... for example getResourceAsStream("image/blub.gif");
[21:11:35] <plexq> cool
[21:13:57] <plexq> so something like this would work: JLabel l=new JLabel(new ImageIcon(RegisterFrame.class.getResource("gfx/product_registration_banner.png")));
[21:14:05] <plexq> I guess I'll run it and find out ;)
[21:14:56] <Gizmore> yeah. it might be tricky, but somehow it should work, as long as the resources are somehow in/under src
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[21:16:16] <plexq> looks like it works if I start the path with a /
[21:16:19] <rcjsuen> kaje1: right-click, Customize Toolbar?
[21:16:38] <Gizmore> plexq: ya, thats what i meant with "tricky" :)
[21:16:43] <plexq> :)
[21:17:01] <plexq> hey - this is my first time using eclipse, I'm used to working server side with just vim and ant
[21:17:31] <Gizmore> eclipse is kinda great, only a bit memory hungry
[21:19:57] <st3-f> Gizmore: Is there an IDE comparable needing less memory?
[21:20:26] <Gizmore> hmm no, i dont know any ide that is so extensible and powerful
[21:20:54] <Gizmore> but there are some ide's that may work better for low memory machines
[21:21:02] <Gizmore> for c++ i use Code:blocks
[21:21:47] <Gizmore> for java you might try JCreator, but it is surely less powerful
[21:22:06] <Gizmore> iirc it doesnt have cvs or svn for example
[21:22:40] <Gizmore> for php i can recommend qunata+ on linux
[21:22:44] <plexq> memory is cheap
[21:22:55] <st3-f> OK, I have just used netbeans and eclipse and just for java (not php etc.)
[21:23:23] <Gizmore> JCreator is lightweight, but eclipse totall owns it :)
[21:24:55] <st3-f> plexq: true. not comparable to a couple of years ago.
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[21:25:57] <Gizmore> developing with eclipse on 256mb ram is a pain :O, now i have 376mb and it works much better
[21:27:45] <st3-f> Gizmore: isn't developing with 256mb in general a pain. not just with eclipse.
[21:28:14] <Gizmore> hmm no, i recall times coding with 65535 bytes of memory :D
[21:29:32] <Gizmore> eclipse/java is really hungry. native ide's are ok with 256mb
[21:30:04] <st3-f> I am (so far) a java-only developer.
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[21:49:10] <kaje1> Is there an easy way in eclipse to organize the positions of fields and member functions in my file based on their access level? IOW, put all the private member variables at the top, then package, then protect, then public, rinse and repeat for member methods...
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[21:50:54] <kaje1> nevermind, just found it
[21:52:02] <rcjsuen> IOW?
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[21:52:39] <kaje1> IOW = In other words
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[21:53:41] <kaje1> I've been getting Out of Memory errors from Eclipse lately, but my physical memory never goes above 25% use... Is there a mem setting on the JVM or something?
[21:54:01] <rcjsuen> ~memory
[21:54:02] <KOS-MOS> Having memory problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
[21:54:03] <Gizmore> kaje1: you can somehow set the maximum java heap space
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[21:54:29] <kaje1> thanks, will look at those
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[22:10:31] <ech0s7> hello
[22:10:54] <ech0s7> can i use carbide.c++ (symbian.c++ language) on eclipse (for linux) ??
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[22:56:34] <thp173> evening all
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[22:58:12] <rcjsuen> thp173: Hi
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[23:00:39] <thp173> i was wondering if anyone has been in a situation where you need java code completion inside an xml file? Im using the zk framework and am trying to set it up so that my java event handlers have code completion and syntax highlighting
[23:01:07] <thp173> within eclipse that is :)
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[23:19:03] <dominikg> just a little reminder: http://ianskerrett.wordpress.com/2008/01/18/last-week-for-nominations-of-the-eclipse-community-awards/ if you want to nominate someone for the community awards, better do it now :)
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[23:22:27] <Zerone> ello :)
[23:22:37] <thp173> hey
[23:22:54] <Zerone> hey :)
[23:23:04] <Arcalyth> hai
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[23:30:06] <jonkri> is there a way to change the url that is opened in the browser tab if you use the php extension? right now it's host/PROJECTNAME/file... i can change the host, but i don't know how to get rid of the projectname, and i'm getting tired of having to use htaccess files to being able to navigate my site properly. thanks
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