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[00:02:57] <mohbana> can i isntall the fedora 8 eclipse without the gcj compiler
[00:03:50] <rcjsuen> I'm not sure. That might be natively compiled, so you'd still need the gcj _runtime_.
[00:03:55] <rcjsuen> The compiler is a different story.
[00:04:05] <rcjsuen> For your information, you don't need a Java compiler to run Eclipse.
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[00:06:23] <robinr> the startup scripts assume gcj I think, so there's some tweaking needed then. Get a package from eclipse.org instead
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[00:06:51] <nmatrix9> rcjsuen, eclipse doesn't seem to like the gcj
[00:07:11] <Zerone> n8 *
[00:07:12] <rcjsuen> nmatrix9: The Eclipse from eclipse.org probably not.
[00:07:21] <rcjsuen> nmatrix9: The Fedora bundled one probably knows what it's doing.
[00:07:37] <rcjsuen> mohbana: but yes, as robinr stated and nmatrix9 hinted, I would say get Eclipse from eclipse.org also.
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[00:08:32] <d_a_carver> the problem with the ones that come from the linux repositories compiled with gcj is when you start adding outside plugins, wierd things really start happening.
[00:08:44] <mohbana> is anyone here running fedora 8 x64
[00:09:26] <rcjsuen> mohbana: ijuma runs Fedora 8
[00:09:35] <rcjsuen> But he would say the same thing, get Eclipse from eclipse.org. ;)
[00:09:54] <ijuma> indeed I run F8 x86_64
[00:10:12] <mohbana> yeh but i dont want to mess up my system, because i have never installed from other than the repo
[00:10:30] <rcjsuen> ijuma: ijuma, my good friend, would you or would you not say, to get Eclipse from eclipse.org?
[00:10:35] * rcjsuen passes mic to ijuma.
[00:11:10] <ijuma> fedora 8 actually has iced tea which is based on openjdk, so eclipse should work fine. The problem is that there are a few differences regarding parameter configuration and whatnot. So, personally I take the easy way out and get eclipse from eclipse.org
[00:11:30] <ijuma> i've been using that for a long time and know what I need to do to achieve whatever I need to do
[00:11:45] <ijuma> mohbana: but you can just extract it in a dir in your home directory
[00:11:51] <ijuma> no need to mess up with anything
[00:12:13] <mohbana> oh i thouhht it was different in linux
[00:12:20] <ijuma> also, that makes it easy to try new versions
[00:12:33] <ijuma> mohbana: nope, that's the nice thing about eclipse, just a directory with files, nothing special
[00:12:49] <ijuma> (although you can make it a bit nicer by keeping plug-ins in a separate directory, but won't go into that ;))
[00:13:37] <ijuma> mohbana: also, be aware that the 32 bit version of eclipse is tested a lot more, so tends to be more stable
[00:14:37] <ijuma> njbartlett: are there any rules without exceptions?
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[00:15:19] <ijuma> "<njbartlett> Anybody know a good tutorial for writing a text editor, with all the nice stuff like completion, syntax highlighting, etc?"
[00:15:24] <ijuma> njbartlett: is that for scala? ;)
[00:15:46] <rcjsuen> ijuma: I thought that but sounded like he's trying to redesign a wheel, so I thought "nah".
[00:16:05] <ijuma> rcjsuen: worth asking anyway ;)
[00:20:56] <rcjsuen> ijuma: The rule "There are always exceptions" has no exceptions, maybe? But then isn't that an exception, oh shi.....!
[00:21:31] <ijuma> rcjsuen: hehe
[00:21:54] <rcjsuen> good ol' self referencing paradoxes
[00:22:17] <ijuma> rcjsuen: btw, i noticed you're blogging on planet.eclipse now
[00:22:33] <ijuma> the bread crumbs thing is cool
[00:22:51] <ijuma> ben was actually wondering if it was easy to implement that in a RCP app and your blog was quite relevant and timely
[00:22:55] <rcjsuen> ijuma: That's my second post actually.
[00:23:01] <rcjsuen> my first was whining about Android
[00:23:04] <rcjsuen> but anyway :)
[00:23:18] <rcjsuen> ijuma: Well, I didn't want to try it when it was still in patch form
[00:23:23] <ijuma> rcjsuen: oh, didn't see that
[00:23:26] <rcjsuen> but once Benno committed I picked up the N build on Saturday morning ;)
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[00:25:27] <rcjsuen> ijuma: What does he need them for?
[00:25:43] <rcjsuen> It's just your standard ITreeContentProvider, so nothing to do with a filesystem, really
[00:25:46] <ijuma> yeah, that forum and ADT thing is so weird
[00:26:01] <ijuma> especially after they started the same way with GWT and fixed it by using google code
[00:26:11] <ijuma> rcjsuen: file system?
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[00:26:31] <ijuma> i am not sure, maybe keep a track of editors in rssowl
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[00:26:42] <ijuma> it was just loud thinking really
[00:26:44] <ijuma> nothing concrete
[00:27:09] <rcjsuen> I meant the breadcrumbs in JDT makes it kinda look like it is file system related
[00:27:14] <rcjsuen> but i guess not since it does show jars ;)
[00:27:21] <rcjsuen> ijuma: ah
[00:27:38] <ijuma> rcjsuen: oh i see
[00:28:33] <rcjsuen> ijuma: yeah, i hate the ADT thing
[00:28:48] <rcjsuen> the one bug I filed on their mailing list got fixed at least :)
[00:28:53] <ijuma> good :)
[00:29:41] <rcjsuen> i wonder if i could find it
[00:29:43] <rcjsuen> probably no teasily
[00:29:46] <rcjsuen> dominikg tried before
[00:29:49] <rcjsuen> i guess i'll grep me logs
[00:30:24] <rcjsuen> ijuma: http://groups.google.com/group/android-developers/browse_thread/thread/fc17b14e91cf53c4
[00:30:29] <rcjsuen> They didn't ever reply though ;)
[00:31:14] <ijuma> right
[00:31:19] <rcjsuen> http://code.google.com/android/RELEASENOTES.html - Version m3-rc22a - 920282 - Fixes a NullPointerException that is thrown in certain situations with the DDMS perspective in Eclipse.
[00:31:24] <rcjsuen> I'm _guessing_ that one is mine.
[00:31:33] <rcjsuen> Okay, I'll admit, I'm not positive they fixed it, I never verified it. ;)
[00:31:40] <rcjsuen> But that one's probably mine
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[00:32:32] <rcjsuen> i think they said they're still thinking of a way to some how sync internal tracker with the external-one-whenever-that's-released
[00:35:18] <rcjsuen> eugene's alrdy critiqued the breadcrumbs too https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=210830#c24
[00:35:38] <rcjsuen> to be honest every time i see his screenshots i cringe because i can't stand the win2k theme :x
[00:36:56] <ijuma> rcjsuen: yeah, but why did they make the same mistake as with gwt? They went through the same thing
[00:37:00] <ijuma> had an internal tracker
[00:37:12] <ijuma> then used to update a web page with the bugs every few weeks or so
[00:37:13] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[00:37:16] <ijuma> eventually migrated
[00:37:23] <ijuma> just seems weird, but anyway i don't care ;)
[00:37:32] <rcjsuen> the plug-in becamse EPL a week or two afterwards
[00:37:42] <rcjsuen> but i dunno if it's in a public repo yet
[00:38:24] <rcjsuen> I'll start caring when they put it online.
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[01:00:54] <rcjsuen> I hate how Ctrl+H
[01:00:54] <rcjsuen> Doesn't remember your last selection
[01:00:54] <rcjsuen> but just keeps giving me "Java"
[01:00:54] <rcjsuen> over and over again
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[01:03:41] <mutable> hello, i have some files in project (shared in cvs) that i want add to .cvsignore, however menu entry "add to .cvsigore" is disabled on them, why please?
[01:03:55] <mutable> build.properties, build.xml ...
[01:04:40] <rcjsuen> that probably means you committed them alrdy
[01:04:41] <rcjsuen> i think
[01:05:23] <mutable> no, they are in "Team Synchr..." synchronize view (they was modified)
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[01:05:39] <Sal> ciao!
[01:05:42] <Sal> anyone here!
[01:05:49] <Sal> rcjsuen, ?
[01:06:02] <rcjsuen> mutable: do you see a + sign? Can you take a screenshot?
[01:06:05] <rcjsuen> Sal: No I'm not here.
[01:06:11] <Sal> :)
[01:06:41] <Sal> listen, is there a switch or something that tells eclipse to use its internal browser instead of the esternal one? i almost got pdt to work
[01:07:41] <rcjsuen> Window > Preferences > General > Web Browser
[01:07:52] <mutable> rcjsuen: it depends on they state (i know what you mean), simply, i cannot add them to cvsignore regardless of their cvs state
[01:07:55] <mutable> their
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[01:08:52] <mutable> now i have file which is in cvs, but i don't want to have it on my local pc, so i'm trying to add it to cvsignore (-)
[01:10:08] <Sal> rcjsuen, thanks, but i can't get the defuakt system web browser unchecked
[01:10:55] <rcjsuen> Sal: krbarnes might be able to help you
[01:11:10] <rcjsuen> mutable: wha?
[01:11:13] <Sal> krbarnes, ?
[01:11:18] <rcjsuen> you want it in CVS but not on the PC?
[01:11:20] <Sal> can ya help meplease
[01:11:21] <rcjsuen> what's the point then
[01:11:28] <krbarnes> what was the question?
[01:11:33] <rcjsuen> Sal: Window > Show View > Web Browser, does it work?
[01:11:34] <Sal> :)
[01:11:48] <Sal> i almost got finaly pdt to work with xdebug
[01:11:58] <Sal> but it always uses the external browser
[01:12:43] <Sal> rcjsuen, don0t have that view
[01:12:57] <rcjsuen> Under 'General' > 'Internal Web Browser'
[01:13:03] <rcjsuen> If you don't have it, I think you have bigger problems.
[01:13:42] <Sal> oh, yes, founf it
[01:13:45] <Sal> ok, let me try
[01:13:58] <rcjsuen> mutable: Can you take a screenshot?
[01:14:02] <krbarnes> I don't know the answer...
[01:14:25] <rcjsuen> krbarnes: that's the question i s'pose > <Sal> rcjsuen, thanks, but i can't get the defuakt system web browser unchecked
[01:14:32] <rcjsuen> for whatever reasons it's greyed out i'm guessing
[01:17:39] <mutable> rcjsuen: ok, w8
[01:18:36] <krbarnes> Sal: what platform are you on?
[01:21:35] <Sal> xp
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[01:26:15] <krbarnes> I've never had that problem... You could try running http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/%7Echeckout%7E/org.eclipse.swt.snippets/src/org/eclipse/swt/snippets/Snippet148.java. That would tell you if the browser widget is the problem, or if it's the action that opens the view.
[01:29:20] <rcjsuen> krbarnes: Is there anyone working on WPF port besides you?
[01:29:39] <mohbana> can i just ask why you just recommend downloading eclipse from the site as appossed to using the eclipse that comes with fedora
[01:29:54] <rcjsuen> mohbana: <d_a_carver> the problem with the ones that come from the linux repositories compiled with gcj is when you start adding outside plugins, wierd things really start happening.
[01:30:22] <rcjsuen> mohbana: We will not stop you from using the one from the repositories, but if you have problems, we can't help you, because we don't know what they did during the packaging process.
[01:30:28] <rcjsuen> You would have to ask the Fedora guys for help.
[01:30:35] <rcjsuen> Which we won't stop you from doing either.
[01:30:42] <krbarnes> rcjsuen: not right now. I haven't been able to dedicate myself 100% to it lately either.
[01:30:51] <rcjsuen> krbarnes: So I guess there is no one now? ;)
[01:31:26] <Sal> ok, got it working
[01:31:27] <rcjsuen> I kinda had an environment setup before, I guess I should try again later.
[01:31:37] <Sal> krbarnes, do u use pdt?
[01:32:04] <krbarnes> rcjsuen: well.. I'll be doing more soon.
[01:32:10] <rcjsuen> ah
[01:32:20] <krbarnes> Sal: no I don't
[01:32:25] <Sal> :(
[01:32:30] <Sal> nobody here uses pdt!!
[01:32:35] <Sal> its impossible
[01:32:54] <Sal> there are a lot of php developers on the world!! and nobody uses pdt?
[01:33:02] <Sal> then maybe i'm making the wrong choice
[01:33:07] <rcjsuen> i know some people, but they use phpeclipse
[01:33:13] <mutable> rcjsuen: so here is the screenshot: http://paulie.mlnarik.net/eclipse_cvsignore.png
[01:33:14] <Sal> yes
[01:33:19] <Sal> i was in that channel
[01:33:21] <mohbana> is the fedora eclipse faster than the one of eclipse site
[01:33:26] <Sal> they really helped me alot
[01:33:37] <rcjsuen> mutable: It's already in CVS. You can't add it to ignore.
[01:33:44] <Sal> but they weren't able to let the debugger work with phpeclipse
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[01:33:58] <rcjsuen> mutable: I guess you could commit the delete and then ignore? I'm not sure how CVS works, sorry.
[01:34:11] <rcjsuen> mohbana: I've never tried that one (I use Gentoo), I dunno.
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[01:43:10] <d_a_carver> Sal:I used PDT for a while, but switched back to PHPEclipse...mainly because I kept running into my system hanging for 2 minutes at startup.
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[01:45:22] <nitind> mohbana: It can be, as long as you use the gcj/gij runtime it's made for and stick to packages provided as part of Fedora.  Otherwise, the lack of a JIT will make anything you add run rather slowly.
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[01:48:22] <staykovmarin> hi, i just imported a few projects using the svn plugin. for some reason it marked  them all as genereal orjects, is there a way to convert them into java projects?
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[01:53:02] <Sal> d_a_carver, ok, then why don't you help me with phpeclipse?
[01:53:14] <Sal> d_a_carver, first, r you using the debugger?
[01:53:19] <d_a_carver> Sal: unfortunately, I use it very rarely, and not for debugging.
[01:53:49] <Sal> ok
[01:54:02] <d_a_carver> I'm mainly a Xquery, XML, XSLT and java person.
[01:54:08] <Sal> anyway i got the last version of pdt finaly debugging like i wanted it to
[01:54:29] <Sal> i'm sorry for my new phpeclipse friends, but i think i'll start using pdt
[01:54:58] <d_a_carver> Sal: glad to hear it...I hope that the PDT stuff gets more attention once Zend gets their latest Zend Studio out the door.  I have a feeling that is where their resources are right now.
[01:55:21] <Sal> yes
[01:55:33] <d_a_carver> Sal: PHPEclipse has made overtures to PDT to merge the two projects, but so far PDT hasn't taken them up on the offer.
[01:55:34] <Sal> and i hope that pdt will still keep on after that
[01:56:23] <Sal> d_a_carver, if i would like to add some menu functions... can that be done?
[01:56:37] <Sal> i noticed that pdt is missing some essenzial stuff
[01:56:46] <Sal> z/t
[01:57:02] <Sal> for example, the web server restart button
[01:57:22] <Sal> can that be done easly?
[01:57:29] <d_a_carver> Sal: Probably have to do that through a plugin contribution.
[01:57:57] <d_a_carver> Sal: might also check the Preference->Customize Perspective
[01:58:17] <d_a_carver> Window->Customize Perspective I mean
[01:59:16] <Sal> ok, i'll play with ti a little bit
[01:59:22] <Sal> ti/it
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[02:26:27] <NMajik> Sorry, I'm still stumped. I'm getting this new error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52850/ when I try the help > updates > find thing still. I bring up eclipse with the following command ./eclipse -vm /home/nmajik/eclipse/jdk1.6.0_04/bin/java . I get the feeling I am just very dense. (I removed the apt-get install and used the one from eclipse.org)
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[03:01:51] <rcjsuen> NMajik: what arch are you on
[03:01:54] <rcjsuen> cpu arch
[03:04:04] <Sal> got the zend debugger working too!!!
[03:04:06] <Sal> yahoo
[03:04:08] <Sal> :)
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[03:04:23] <Sal> now i'll write a nice tutorial in my blog
[03:04:25] <Sal> :)
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[03:08:35] <rcjsuen> Sal: Please link it here when you're done.
[03:08:49] <Sal> i will
[03:09:05] <Sal> but first i'll write it in italian for my pizza friends
[03:09:06] <Sal> :)
[03:09:10] <Sal> then in english
[03:10:53] <NMajik> rcjsuen: 32bit Intel, dual core (Is that what you need?)
[03:11:38] <Sal> NMajik, r you doing a yard sale?
[03:11:42] <Sal> i need one too
[03:11:52] <Sal> ops, a garage sale
[03:11:55] <Sal> :)
[03:13:36] <rcjsuen> NMajik: that's weird, what tarbal did you download
[03:17:50] <NMajik> rcjsuen: eclipse-java-europa-fall2-linux-gtk.tar.gz
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[03:25:31] <rcjsuen> NMajik: do you get the same error if you download Eclipse Classic?
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[03:35:06] <NMajik> I'll download and get back to you
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[04:46:16] <J338> Hi all. I dual-boot Ubuntu Gutsy and Windows XP. I find that if I create a project in XP and try to access it under Ubuntu, Eclipse says the .project file is missing, even though I can see it using my Ubuntu file manager. IIRC, the reverse is similar--projects created under Ubuntu do not open properly in XP. Does anyone know anything about this?
[04:49:22] <rcjsuen> Never heard of that problem.
[04:49:23] <nitind> You've ruled out all the file permission issues that might be happening?  Regardless, the best thing to do is to share the projects between installations using a source control system like CVS.
[04:49:38] <rcjsuen> How did you import those projects?
[04:50:18] <J338> Hmm, I don't remember exactly, but I use the same workspace for both partitions. Would they show up automatically?
[04:50:41] <rcjsuen> If it's the same workspace then I s'pose it shouldn't exactly be a problem.
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[04:53:35] <nitind> You know, unless anything made use of the filesystem location.
[04:53:52] <rcjsuen> Well, true
[04:53:55] <J337> Yeah, as soon as I said it I wonder how it ever worked in the first place...
[04:53:58] <rcjsuen> Assuming it was all in the worksapce.
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[04:56:21] <J337> If all projects are stored in the workspace, would it use relative paths and work correctly? Some of my projects were outside, which might be why they didn't work, but some are inside...except I can't test it right now.
[04:57:02] <rcjsuen> If it's all inside it should work I think.
[04:58:28] <J337> ok...I'll investigate further. Thanks.
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[06:23:01] <SphtKr_> Hi all...any OS X people in here? I have an RCP project that runs fine in Linux...I copied the whole workspace to my MacBook, and I get :
[06:23:03] <SphtKr_> org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: Plug-in gov.noaa.nws.wr.flare was unable to load class gov.noaa.nws.wr.flare.Application
[06:24:04] <SphtKr_> I even tried re-creating the Application plugin (there are five other plugins in the app) using the wizard, and that won't run either. Any ideas?
[06:26:50] <rcjsuen> SphtKr_: your exported plug-in won't run?
[06:27:51] <SphtKr_> (kinda new to this) I'm just trying the "Launch an eclipse application" link on the plugin manifest GUI editor's overview tab.
[06:28:10] <rcjsuen> You might want to try making a new launch configuration completely.
[06:28:13] <SphtKr_> Not trying to export the project as a standalone yet.
[06:28:14] <rcjsuen> Or well, deleting your existing ones.
[06:28:28] <SphtKr_> In the Run Dialog?
[06:28:35] <rcjsuen> Yes
[06:29:24] <SphtKr_> ok, deleted them all...
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[06:32:51] <SphtKr_> hmm...still can't launch, but I've got even more errors...
[06:33:08] <SphtKr_> lemme try restoring my original app plugin code...
[06:40:04] <pombreda> SphtKr_: I would whack the .metadata folder and try to reimport the projets. I am not so sure the workspace metadata are portable
[06:40:23] <SphtKr_> hmm...interesting...I'll give that a shot...
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[06:47:12] <pombreda> SphtKr_: you can try that on a copy of the workspace I would say
[06:47:29] <SphtKr_> pombreda: grr... now something else is wrong...not resolving things like org.eclipse.swt... Thanks, I'll have to mess with this more tomorrow.
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[06:47:53] <pombreda> SphtKr_: you did not copy Eclipse too, right? just the workspace?
[06:48:08] <pombreda> :-)
[06:48:14] <pombreda> whatever
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[07:48:03] <pombreda> Matrix9: hey
[07:48:44] <pombreda> Matrix9: where did you get eclipse from? the one bundled in Fedora 8?
[07:49:01] <Matrix9> pombreda, yup, standard one that came with it
[07:49:04] <pombreda> Matrix9: and you are trying to get Jboss plugins installed on it?
[07:49:34] <pombreda> Matrix9: did you install the full RHDS, of just the latest jboss plugins?
[07:49:41] <pombreda> *or
[07:49:42] <Matrix9> pombreda, I installed jboss tools from within eclipse and everything seems to work fine except I can't open up a xhtml file with its internal editor
[07:49:59] <Matrix9> pombreda, No just jboss tools
[07:50:01] <pombreda> hum
[07:50:35] <Matrix9> it has an xulrunner plugin that it installs and bunch of linux specfiic libraries but none of them have the libswt that I need
[07:50:46] <pombreda> Matrix9: there could be sevral reasons. but first I would try to get eclipse from eclipse.org
[07:51:20] <pombreda> Matrix9: I fear the swt shipped by fedora is not correct for that use
[07:51:39] <pombreda> Matrix9: yes that xulrunner plugin is one I build @ mozilla :-P
[07:52:17] <Matrix9> Wow, cool - at least you are in a position to help me then haha :)
[07:52:32] <pombreda> hehe
[07:52:46] <Matrix9> Will i be able to install that eclipse in my local home directory?
[07:53:08] <pombreda> Matrix9: I see you asked on #jbosstools, which is probably the best place since the dev hang there
[07:53:23] <pombreda> Matrix9: Will i be able to install that eclipse in my local home directory? -> yes just unatr and run
[07:53:51] <pombreda> Matrix9: I think fc8 comes with icedtea, but I woudl get Sun's java too just in case
[07:54:03] <pombreda> use Java 5 rather than 6 just in case too
[07:54:10] <pombreda> to be conservative :-)
[07:54:20] <Matrix9> haha, just too many variables :)
[07:55:23] <pombreda> Matrix9: so get eclipse "classic" 3.3.1.1, Sun java 5. install those in your userdir. Using the eclipse update site get the web tools with j2ee support and all deps that come with it
[07:55:44] <pombreda> Matrix9: then where di you get jboss tools from ?
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[07:57:20] <pombreda> Matric actually jboss tools seem to have doc page describing what you need : http://labs.jboss.com/wiki/InstallingJBossTools
[07:58:32] <Matrix9> pombreda, I added the following remote site http://download.jboss.org/jbosside/updates/stable
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[08:00:30] <pombreda> Matrix9: that sounds about right
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[08:01:11] <pombreda> Matrix if you get the right eclipse then you shoudl be fine. Use Sun's java 5. and start eclipse the first time after all those installs with -clean
[08:02:54] <pombreda> Matrix9: I am off to bed. but we can catch up tomorrow
[08:03:29] <Matrix9> pombreda, thank you for your help, at least your information set me on the right path.
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[08:05:14] <pombreda> :-)
[08:05:17] <pombreda> bbl
[08:05:26] <pupped> is this eclipse help?
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[08:08:23] <pombreda> pupped: sure. ask and you may get an answer
[08:08:27] <pombreda> bbl
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[08:41:04] <fifo_> My eclipse keeps freezing up, throwing exceptions about threads, and avoiding deadlocks and state changes for threads.
[08:41:12] <fifo_> I assume it has to do with the PermGen space that ran out
[08:41:31] <fifo_> How can I reset/cleanup eclipse, so it removes all runtime data and stuff, to try and give it a "reboot" of sorts
[08:41:36] <fifo_> Without loosing plugins/features
[08:46:49] <lemmy> fifo_, OS?
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[08:48:25] <Fiet> hello everyone
[08:49:12] <Fiet> are there any known problems with the Eclipse - autocompletion under Ubuntu/Gutsy?
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[08:52:03] <Fiet> i forget to mention that its the basic autocompletion for Java that makes problems, not some wild plugin
[08:54:36] <Fiet> no variable-identifiers, no method names .. only an empty popup comes up when I hit ctrl - space saying "No Default Proposals"
[08:55:10] <Fiet> and no, I did not play with the settings
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[09:34:54] <njbartlett> ~set
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[09:37:42] <njbartlett> ~add completion Java autocompletion not working when you press Ctrl-Space? Try the following: open Window->Preferences (for Mac users: Eclipse->Preferences). Then navigate to Java -> Editor -> Content Assist -> Advanced. Ensure that all the entries in the uppermost list are checked. Click okay and check whether autocompletion is working now.
[09:37:44] <KOS-MOS> The new keyword "completion" has been stored. In the future, you can ask me about "completion" and I will respond.
[09:37:49] <njbartlett> ~completion
[09:37:50] <KOS-MOS> Java autocompletion not working when you press Ctrl-Space? Try the following: open Window->Preferences (for Mac users: Eclipse->Preferences). Then navigate to Java -> Editor -> Content Assist -> Advanced. Ensure that all the entries in the uppermost list are checked. Click okay and check whether autocompletion is working now.
[09:39:28] <njbartlett> ~tell fifo_ about permgen
[09:39:28] <KOS-MOS> fifo_: Having permgen problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
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[09:55:17] <dissonans> I've configured the Problems view in Eclipse to only show problems from the current working set, but problems from other projects are shown anyway
[09:55:20] <dissonans> known bug?
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[09:57:28] <mrynit> eclipse keeps forgetting where my projects are and plugins dissapear
[09:58:31] <praecox> why would it remember if they have gone..?
[09:58:46] <Rhe> default workplace dir?
[09:58:52] <Rhe> let's see
[09:59:07] <Rhe> ~tell mrynit about default workplace
[09:59:12] <Rhe> boo
[09:59:45] <mrynit> i picked my defualt workspace.
[10:00:04] <mrynit> oh well. i
[10:00:19] <mrynit> dont matter. just wished it wasnt so buggy on this computer.
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[10:09:41] <mrynit> do you know to check out older projects from svn? only my latest project shows up
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[10:21:47] <dt06pe3> Hello. I use Eclipse with CVS. Is there any function that automatically checks if I am up to date with the repository?
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[10:28:43] <mrynit> dt06pe3: you can do it manualy
[10:29:02] <mrynit> but yeh idk about auto
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[15:08:40] <NMajik> I know this is likely the wrong place to ask but does this output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52882/ mean anything to anyone? It is generated by the JRE (believe) not eclipse, as with the other error logs. This is a clean install of eclipse from eclipse.org and a clean install of jdk1.6.0_04.
[15:10:12] <rcjsuen> Well, it doesn't really seem like an Eclipse error.
[15:10:23] <rcjsuen> You could try a 1.5 JRE.
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[15:10:38] <rcjsuen> Since 1.6 is not officially listed as supported (though I and many others use it, but anyway)
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[15:10:58] <rcjsuen> I am not using _04 though
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[15:13:49] <Sal> rcjsuen, what linux distro do you have on?
[15:13:55] <rcjsuen> I use Gentoo.
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[16:06:44] <simmerz> I'm trying to get eclipse europa running on my ubuntu machine but I get the following error: Details: serial 431 error_code 11 request_code 148 minor_code 5
[16:07:04] <simmerz> it says "BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)" but I have plenty of drive space and RAM
[16:08:44] <rcjsuen> ~info
[16:08:45] <KOS-MOS> Please state your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), your Java runtime environment (unless you checked in your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, you do not know _for sure_, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), your Eclipse version, and where did you download Eclipse from.
[16:08:46] <rcjsuen> simmerz: ^
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[16:11:52] <simmerz> rcjsuen: x86, Ubuntu Linux, and sun java 6 (Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_03-b05))
[16:12:10] <simmerz> ~jre
[16:12:11] <KOS-MOS> Please verify your Java runtime environment - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#How_do_I_find_out_which_Java_runtime_environment_is_being_used_to_run_my_Eclipse.3F
[16:12:34] <simmerz> heh. would be great if i could get into eclipse at all!
[16:12:51] <rcjsuen> ~logs
[16:12:52] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[16:12:59] <rcjsuen> simmerz: Where did you get Eclipse
[16:13:07] <simmerz> classic eclipse from the project site
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[16:15:17] <simmerz> http://rafb.net/p/CfotyR48.html is the error I get. the first bit is in the console, the latter part (JVM terminated...) is in a dialog
[16:15:44] <rcjsuen> I think that's the Xorg problem people have been getting on Ubuntu.
[16:15:48] <rcjsuen> google the error
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[16:17:05] <simmerz> hmm, yeah seems to be
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[16:21:29] <simmerz> that seems to have been the problem
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[16:29:24] <MacGyverNL> Is there an easy way in an eclipse text editor to convert triple-spaced indents into quadruple-spaced indents, or is that plugin-specific?
[16:29:32] <gdiebel> There seems to be issues with eclipse under my fedora 8 and I can't track down what the problem is. Stock F8, eclipse, iced tea. Fresh workspace, fresh .eclipse. Here is my debug: http://pastebin.com/d70160c77
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[16:30:02] <gdiebel> Eclipse runs fine, but will not exit. I need to kill the process
[16:30:25] <rurouni> anyone having problems with copy/paste folders with subclipse??
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[16:33:36] <MacGyverNL> Ah, found a way. Set indentation level on the plugin to 3, then convert space-tabs to tabs, set indentation level to four, then convert tabs to space-tabs (Pydev plugin). *solved*
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[16:49:10] <madsara> Hey, where do I find the package to satisfy this requirement - org.eclipse.wst (2.0.0) ?
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[17:06:54] <simmerz> madsara: it's in the default europa location
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[17:09:17] <d_a_carver> madsara: look at the Web Tools portion in Europa
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[17:21:29] <madsara> Hmmm... can I use that location if I'm using Eclipse 3.2.1?
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[17:29:14] <rcjsuen> madsara: wst is for 3.3, not 3.2.x
[17:29:20] <rcjsuen> madsara: er, wst 2.0 anyway
[17:29:22] <rcjsuen> 1.5 is for 3.2.x
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[17:30:34] <rcjsuen> gdiebel: Eclipse from F8 repositories?
[17:31:05] <gdiebel> same occurs with eclipse from eclipse.org or from f8 repos
[17:31:14] <rcjsuen> gdiebel: 32-bit / 64-bit?
[17:31:17] <gdiebel> 32
[17:31:47] <madsara> Yeah... basic problem is I'm trying to install PDT... it's got a dependency for that... Eclipse 3.2.1 is the latest ebuild for gentoo... so...
[17:31:52] <gdiebel> rcjsuen: did you see the debug? nothing interesting there. perhaps I can can get better debugging?
[17:31:57] <rcjsuen> gdiebel: yes, I saw the debug
[17:32:05] <rcjsuen> use a supported jre
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[17:32:21] <rcjsuen> if you can't open f8's repository's eclipes on f8, you need to file a bug to f8
[17:33:35] <gdiebel> rcjsuen: thanks. I will do so. Just checking in channels to see if others have same issue. I just upgrade to F8.
[17:34:08] <rcjsuen> if you use a Sun JRE or something to open Eclipse.org Eclipse and it won't work, let us know
[17:34:28] <rcjsuen> ~tell madsara about pdt-install
[17:34:29] <KOS-MOS> madsara: Trying to install PDT? - http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/FAQ#Installation
[17:34:38] <rcjsuen> madsara: actually, 3.3.x went in tree today i think, but anyway
[17:35:43] <madsara> Yeah KOS-MOS I read that... following the guidelines for Eclipse 3.2/Callisto/PDT I still have the missing dependency.
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[17:36:33] <rcjsuen> madsara: i'd just use the pdt all-in-one if i were you
[17:36:46] <madsara> Yeah, I think you're right. Thanks rcjsuen
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[17:39:33] <int> hello! i'm trying to install DTP on eclipse 3.3.1 but get this error: """Data Tools Platform Open Data Access Designer (1.5.1.200709261) requires feature "org.eclipse.datatools.doc.user (1.5.1)", or later version""", i enabled all items in DTP update site, but still no success :( is that known bug?
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[17:49:32] <d_a_carver> If you need an XSLT Editing features, XSL Tooling 0.5M4 is now available: http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/incubator/downloads/
[17:50:55] <d_a_carver> you need 3.4 and wst 3.0m4
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[17:56:12] <endra> hello pretty people
[17:56:41] <endra> The program 'Eclipse' received an X Window System error.
[17:56:42] <endra> This probably reflects a bug in the program.
[17:56:42] <endra> The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'.
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[17:56:59] <endra> It was working just fine yesterday and nothing was updated, and I have enough memory and hard disk space
[17:57:32] <endra> On a side note, azureus is also giving me that exact error
[17:57:42] <endra> They both depend on Java and I don't know what to make of it. Any help is appreciated
[17:58:52] <d_a_carver> endra: You appear to be getting hit by the xorg patch that came down over the last few days for debian based systems.
[17:59:10] <endra> Oh noes
[17:59:42] <endra> Expected patch-patch soon or should I downgrade?
[18:00:08] <d_a_carver> endra: http://www.suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=44755&hl=
[18:00:33] <d_a_carver> that'll give you some background and probably work arounds.  I haven't experienced it mainly because I'm using the Jrockit JVM and not Suns.
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[18:01:03] <endra> Okay, thank you
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[18:24:14] <aca20031> Should I not upload .project to the cvs
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[18:26:10] <d_a_carver> aca20031: no, you should always upload it.
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[18:27:18] <aca20031> so it wont mess with other users project settings?
[18:27:28] <aca20031> Such as if they want to have a specific jdk
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[18:28:24] <tromey> no, it should be ok
[18:30:03] <d_a_carver> aca20031: .settings usually contains user specific settings
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[18:31:08] <aca20031> one last thing, should CvS see .bat as ascii or binary :/
[18:31:31] <aca20031> because technically its ascii instructions that are run, lol
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[18:42:28] <d_a_carver> aca20031; ascii
[18:42:51] <d_a_carver> aca20031: anything that is text that you might want to do comparisons against should go in as ascii
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[18:50:41] <PupenoG> Hello.
[18:51:16] <PupenoG> Is it possible to download WTP to use in an existing Eclipse installation?
[18:51:37] <d_a_carver> PupenoG: yes, just point to the Europa update site.
[18:51:55] <d_a_carver> or download the zip files and install.
[18:51:59] <PupenoG> d_a_carver: what would be the URL for that? or how do I find it?
[18:52:08] <PupenoG> for the update site, not the zip files.
[18:53:30] <d_a_carver> PupenoG: what version of Eclipse are you using.
[18:53:50] <PupenoG> d_a_carver: 3.3.
[18:53:59] <d_a_carver> http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/updates/
[18:54:13] <d_a_carver> Add that to your update sites in eclipse.
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[18:54:46] <blokkie> hi
[18:54:55] <PupenoG> thanks.
[18:55:03] <blokkie> The error was 'BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)'. (Details: serial 1540 error_code 11 request_code 147 minor_code 5)
[18:55:08] <d_a_carver> PupenoG: It's also included in the Europa Site as well.
[18:55:15] <blokkie> is this a known error code ?
[18:55:29] <blokkie> how do I fix this ?
[18:55:39] <PupenoG> d_a_carver: what is "the Europa Site" exactly? (sorry, I'm kind of new to Eclipse)
[18:56:52] <d_a_carver> PupenoG: http://download.eclipse.org/releases/europa/
[18:57:14] <d_a_carver> Add that to your Update Manager if you don't already have a "Europa Discovery Site" entry.
[18:57:24] <PupenoG> d_a_carver: thanks.
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[19:14:06] <subopt> I just installed Eclipse3.3 in my home space, then used the updater thingie to install Mylyn(2.2) to the same location. The Product Configuration dialog says that Mylyn's installed correctly, but Eclipse doesn't give me any way to start a new task or category or anything. This is the 2nd time i've been through this loop. Any suggestions?
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[19:53:08] <s0x_> hi sorry if I'm to silly to see the solution for my prob on my own but i can't get my first plugin to work. It's only the little example from http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-Your%20First%20Plug-in/YourFirstPlugin.html which should show a Hello World in an info-dialog. but i only get the message "The chosen operation is not currently available.". Can anybody give me a hint?
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[19:55:20] <s0x_> btw. but the Icon is showing at the toolbar and in about->plugins it is also listed
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[20:26:22] <vwegert> Hi all. Do I really have to add a -Djava.library.path to the launch config for every SWT application I develop on Mac OS X or is there an easier way?
[20:26:49] <benowar> vwegert I dont think that argument is required since 3.3 anymore
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[20:27:33] <vwegert> benowar: I just got the Mac a few days ago and have no real experience with it.
[20:28:31] <benowar> vwegert: I would give it a try with SWT 3.3 and not using this property.
[20:28:32] <vwegert> I don't even succeed in starting a second eclipse instance with default settings
[20:30:01] <vwegert> benowar: I get the "usual" UnsatisfiedLinkError
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[20:35:09] <benowar> vwegert: interesting, thats with 3.3?
[20:35:24] <vwegert> benowar: Yep, fresh install
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[20:37:00] <benowar> thats weird
[20:37:01] <benowar> "The SWT JNI libraries must be found at runtime. As of Eclipse/SWT 3.3 this will happen automatically if the platform-specific SWT jar is on the java classpath."
[20:37:04] <benowar> reads the SWT faq
[20:39:05] <vwegert> benowar: That's about as far as I got, too.
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[20:39:17] <vwegert> benowar: Even worse - even if I specify the parameter, it doesn't work
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[20:39:33] <benowar> vwegert: thats for launching an eclipse application out of eclipse?
[20:39:58] <vwegert> benowar: Yes. Launching Eclipse itself from the dock or finder works without problems
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[20:48:23] <rcjsuen> ~tell s0x_ about consolelog
[20:48:24] <KOS-MOS> s0x_: Writing an Eclipse-based application and can't find anything useful in your console and/or getting "Unhandled event loop exceptions"? Add -consoleLog as a 'Program Argument' to your launch configuration. See http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_get_an_unhandled_event_loop_exception_in_my_console._What_gives.3F
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[20:49:00] <Zerone> ello :)
[20:55:40] <s0x_> ahh .. i will try
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[21:22:48] <er4z0r> hi there
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[21:24:14] <er4z0r> I have an OSGi-App but I am not sure how/where to store individual configuration parameters for my bundles. can you give me some approaches?
[21:24:44] <njbartlett> er4z0r: Read about Configuration Admin yet?
[21:31:20] <er4z0r> njbartlett: not really.
[21:32:36] <njbartlett> er4z0r: Okay, take a look. You can use it together with Peter Krien's FileInstall bundle to supply the actual config data.
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[21:34:48] <awmcclain> Hi all... I'm trying to automate adding a project to Eclipse... is there way to add a project from the command line?
[21:35:21] <vwegert> *sigh* since nothing seems to work, I'm about to file a bug for this SWT error on OSX... I've seen this error a number of times appearing in mailing lists, but no answers
[21:35:29] <rcjsuen> awmcclain: Not possible afaik.
[21:36:02] <robinr> using ant?
[21:36:27] <rcjsuen> robinr: Eclipse has a built-in Ant task for adding projects?
[21:36:47] <robinr> thinking indirectly
[21:36:56] <rcjsuen> Indirectly?
[21:37:15] <awmcclain> So there's no remoting interface from the command line... what about changing the manifest somewhere? Where are the project listings stored?
[21:37:18] <rcjsuen> it either adds it, or it doesn't ;)
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[21:37:43] <rcjsuen> awmcclain: Perhaps the question is, what's your use case
[21:37:55] <Zerone> ello rcjsuen :)
[21:38:05] <rcjsuen> Hi
[21:38:41] <njbartlett> You might be able to write a bundle that periodically scans for new projects in a certain location
[21:38:58] <awmcclain> rcjsuen: Branching from a DVCS. I want to get the branch via a script, then add it to the workspace. Eclipse doesn't have to be running.
[21:39:36] <awmcclain> I mean, worst comes to worse, I could edit the DVCS's "add project" wizard.
[21:39:48] <rcjsuen> the stuff is stored in workspace/.metadata/.plugins/org.eclipes.core.resources folder
[21:39:49] <awmcclain> *worse comes to worst
[21:40:04] <rcjsuen> whether you speak their language is a different (and probably difficult) story
[21:40:10] <awmcclain> :)
[21:40:47] <rcjsuen> If you knew what you were doing you could probably code one up yourself.
[21:41:07] <awmcclain> Code up a wizard?
[21:41:33] <rcjsuen> yes, write your own CLI app
[21:42:05] <awmcclain> OK... I'll look into that.
[21:42:31] <awmcclain> So much for the quick hack. ;)
[21:43:23] <robinr> awmcclain: maybe ant4eclipse is something for you. http://ant4eclipse.sourceforge.net/ant-for-eclipse-home.html
[21:44:19] <awmcclain> I see what you mean about the .plugins folder. Blech.
[21:44:20] <vwegert> benowar: Seems to be a bug of the Java 1.6 developer preview - works fine with Java 1.5
[21:44:31] <benowar> vwegert: ah :)
[21:45:04] <vwegert> benowar: Question is - should I report it or will it be a why-are-you-using-previews-anyway-flame?
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[21:45:36] <rcjsuen> vwegert: I'd report it if I were you.
[21:47:00] <awmcclain> robinr: thanks for the link... doesn't look like there's a task for me in there. I'll just edit my existing plugin
[21:47:08] <awmcclain> Thank you all for your help!
[21:47:10] <vwegert> rcjsuen: will do
[21:47:20] <EskilA> I have a multi-page editor, One editor is a text editor and the other is gui-based, I'd like to change the text in the texteditor from the GUI editor, how should i access the text editor inside the GUI editor class?
[21:47:44] <rcjsuen> EskilA: Could just pass the text editor to the gui editor
[21:47:50] <rcjsuen> or the IDocument
[21:47:53] <EskilA> true
[21:47:53] <rcjsuen> or the ITextViewer
[21:47:54] <rcjsuen> or whatever
[21:48:03] <EskilA> is there an "eclipse way" of doing it?
[21:48:23] <rcjsuen> Not that I know of.
[21:48:35] <rcjsuen> at the end of the day it's just a matter of using the same model for your UI to manipulate
[21:48:43] <EskilA> ok, thank you
[21:49:30] <er4z0r> njbartlett: ok, I will
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[21:56:00] <vwegert> rcjsuen: #216051
[21:56:24] <rcjsuen> k
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[22:19:09] <slestak> i have a editor plugin I am trying to use with my db.  on winxp (eclipse 3.3) works fine.  On ubuntu gutsy (eclipse 3.2) it does not appear to obet workspace text file encoding selection.  I have chosen iso-8859-1 and it saves the file an utf-8.  anyone else see similar problems?
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[22:20:18] <rcjsuen> I've heard of such complaints in the past.
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[22:20:52] <slestak> the plugin author said it is not repeatable on his fedora 8 box
[22:21:26] <slestak> wonder if it related to 3.2 vs 3.3?
[22:22:21] <rcjsuen> Well, only he or she would know.
[22:22:37] <slestak> yup. well, apparently he doesnt know.
[22:22:56] <slestak> im getting the worksforme from him
[22:24:04] <rcjsuen> Are you both even using the same download of Eclipse
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[22:24:31] <slestak> no, 3.2 for ubuntu (from the repo) and 3.3 for winxp
[22:24:36] <konigsberg> Hi all, I'm trying to figure out how much of the conference I'll miss if I don't show up Monday.
[22:24:51] <konigsberg> (Any answer other than '25%', please. :))
[22:25:31] <rcjsuen> konigsberg: Well, those are just tutorials.
[22:25:48] <rcjsuen> And I guess you'll miss some bofs
[22:25:56] <rcjsuen> and maybe some other things
[22:26:10] <rcjsuen> slestak: Well then
[22:26:29] <rcjsuen> slestak: Perhaps you (or both of you) should try to remove some variables.
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[22:27:19] <konigsberg> Yeah
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[22:27:47] <nitind> Tutorials are free this year (right?), so I'd say: a lot.
[22:27:52] <rcjsuen> nitind: Yes
[22:28:06] <konigsberg> rcjsuen: It's too bad the schedule isn't that well prepared yet, it would help me.
[22:28:16] <konigsberg> nitind: were tutorials not free last year?
[22:28:17] <rcjsuen> nitind: Well, missing talks is "a lot" too.
[22:28:23] <rcjsuen> I guess it depends what you want to get out of EclipseCon.
[22:28:24] <rcjsuen> konigsberg: Negative.
[22:28:34] <rcjsuen> There was some *rubs fingers* involved.
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[22:28:42] <konigsberg> rcjsuen I think I double-negatved myself into confusion.
[22:28:51] <konigsberg> Ah
[22:29:09] <rcjsuen> I'm still not sure if I'm going at the moment.
[22:29:14] <nitind> konigsberg: No, they've never been free before.
[22:29:17] <rcjsuen> If I do it'll probably be just for Monday and Tuesday I guess.
[22:29:24] <rcjsuen> or Tues / Wed, or Wed / Thurs
[22:29:29] <rcjsuen> Well, the easiest would be Mon / Tues
[22:30:09] <konigsberg> rcjsuen, you wouldn't do Monday/Thursday? Or Monday/Wednesday? :)
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[22:30:25] <rcjsuen> If I have warp speed transport maybe
[22:30:29] <konigsberg> Yeah
[22:30:36] <deepjoy> is anybody using 3.4m4 on gtk2/32
[22:30:45] <rcjsuen> Let me know if warp speed transport goes public though
[22:30:50] <rcjsuen> I'll consider those dates then.
[22:30:51] <konigsberg> I can't talk about it. :)
[22:30:56] <rcjsuen> deepjoy: Ask the real question.
[22:31:05] <rcjsuen> deepjoy: Ulness you're taking a poll, which I highly doubt
[22:31:11] <rcjsuen> But in the event that you are, I was, a few weeks ago, I s'pose.
[22:31:17] <deepjoy> I get a render error when I do open resource
[22:31:33] <deepjoy> couldn't find a filed bug
[22:31:40] <deepjoy> was wondering if it was just me
[22:31:42] <konigsberg> Thanks nitind and rcjsuen, I'll think some more.
[22:31:42] <rcjsuen> ~logs
[22:31:42] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
[22:31:43] <rcjsuen> ~pastebin
[22:31:44] <nitind> deepjoy: Regardless of the theme?
[22:31:44] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[22:32:08] <rcjsuen> I need to move locations
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[22:36:47] <deepjoy> I get the following http://rafb.net/p/rhGaom10.html
[22:37:06] <deepjoy> when I start open resource on 3.4M4 on GTK2/32 Linux
[22:37:24] <deepjoy> I do not have PDE. just the platform runtime binary
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[22:43:18] <deepjoy> I'm using xulRunner 1.8 default with Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon and a standaline 1.6_03 JRE from sun
[22:44:25] <deepjoy> any additional information is volunteered
[22:44:33] <deepjoy> :-)
[22:44:38] <rcjsuen> try with the Eclipse SDK
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[22:47:41] <deepjoy> ok I'v started the download,
[22:47:47] <deepjoy> it's gonna take a while
[22:48:07] <deepjoy> but should that effect an Array index out of bounds?
[22:48:21] <deepjoy> or does that provide additional debug information?
[22:49:06] <deepjoy> I'v installed JDT, CVS Team, GEF, XSD, WTP, etc on top of 3.4M4
[22:49:24] <deepjoy> the open Type dialog also causes the same error
[22:49:46] <deepjoy> even with just JDT installed
[22:50:25] <deepjoy> apart from that it runs like a dream
[22:50:53] <deepjoy> I installed teh gotoFile plugin but that uses too much CPU on linux :-(
[22:51:58] <deepjoy> s/teh/the/
[22:52:43] <deepjoy> nitind: I'm running on compiz-fusion, I'll try with that disabled.
[22:53:41] <deepjoy> no luck
[22:53:46] <deepjoy> still the same
[22:54:04] <deepjoy> is there anyone in this room still listening to my ranting :-)
[22:54:16] <konigsberg> Another question about eclipsecon: which hotel is adjacent to the convention center?
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[22:54:35] <rcjsuen> konigsberg: Hyatt i think
[22:54:47] <rcjsuen> Hyatt and/or Hilton
[22:54:54] <rcjsuen> whichever is not the one is like across the street, so no matter
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[22:55:11] <konigsberg> Thanks
[22:55:14] <rcjsuen> deepjoy: well yes it shouldn't matter, but just in case
[22:55:24] <rcjsuen> deepjoy: and just because no one says anything doesn't mean no one's reading
[22:55:27] <konigsberg> I just realized it was obvious from actually *reading* the hotels info.
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[22:56:26] <deepjoy> rcjsuen: thanks for replying. I'm on a slow connection here, The download is gonna be over 2 hours. so I'll check back later
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[22:58:29] <deepjoy> btw is there anywhere I can access the eclipse source online (as in separate java files to go through a stack trace)?
[22:58:44] <deepjoy> specificaly 2.4M4 source
[22:58:47] <deepjoy> :-)
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[22:58:57] <deepjoy> s/2.4/3.4/
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[22:59:34] <rcjsuen> deepjoy: I'm sure google can help you
[23:03:00] <deepjoy> rcjsuen: thanks I'll look it up
[23:03:27] <rcjsuen> but i guess a macro would be nice
[23:04:25] <rcjsuen> ~add viewvc Looking for a web interface to the source code released by Eclipse projects? http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/
[23:04:26] <KOS-MOS> The new keyword "viewvc" has been stored. In the future, you can ask me about "viewvc" and I will respond.
[23:05:01] <deepjoy> ~viewvc
[23:05:01] <KOS-MOS> Looking for a web interface to the source code released by Eclipse projects? http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/
[23:05:08] <deepjoy> :-)
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