[00:00:01] <rcjsuen> So I had to have it ignore.
[00:00:10] <rcjsuen> good ol' hard coding
[00:00:18] <rcjsuen> The answers to all of life's problems.
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[00:55:10] <ninix> rcjsuen: d_a_carver: Eclipse 3.3 + CDT 4.0 just rock! :) all is working very well and fast. thx
[00:55:19] <rcjsuen> ninix: coo
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[01:09:33] <Zerone> n8 *
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[01:12:58] <d_a_carver> ninix: glad to hear it.
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[01:32:03] <Sal> any pdt user here?
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[01:34:33] <homik> hi, i have an issue with starting eclipse on Suse 10.3 64-bit. i keep getting the error glibtop: cannot find btime in /proc/stat: Resource temporarily unavailable /usr/lib64/.: No such file or directory.
[01:35:50] <rcjsuen> ~tell homik about info
[01:35:50] <KOS-MOS> homik: Please state your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), your Java runtime environment (unless you checked in your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, you do not know _for sure_, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), your Eclipse version, and where did you download Eclipse from.
[01:35:57] <Matrix9> I opened this project in eclipse and it cant even resolve java.util, where would I check to see if the reference to this is correct?
[01:36:32] <rcjsuen> Matrix9: sounds like the project's build path is hosed
[01:36:34] <rcjsuen> try Project / Clean
[01:36:41] <rcjsuen> and try creating a new java project and seeing if it works there
[01:36:46] <rcjsuen> if the new project fails, try a diff workspace
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[01:37:23] <Sal> rcjsuen, ciao
[01:37:31] <Sal> like you can see, i'm still searching :(
[01:37:38] <rcjsuen> Sal: Hi
[01:37:49] <Candid> hi, is there a gettext file editing plugin where i can update .po files from a .pot file? or is that possible with gted?
[01:38:12] <rcjsuen> Sal: Did you check bugzilla?
[01:38:36] <Sal> i don't think that i'm stopped by a bug
[01:39:02] <Sal> i'm stopped by bad settings
[01:39:46] <Sal> because i don't think that pdt comes with a not working debugger
[01:40:00] <homik> i have 64-bit proc, suse 10.3, java 6, eclipse 3.3 which i got from the main page
[01:40:02] <rcjsuen> PDT doesn't come with a debugger
[01:40:11] <Sal> xdebug
[01:40:14] <rcjsuen> homik: do you still have the tarbal?
[01:40:19] <Sal> its in its package
[01:40:23] <rcjsuen> Sal: which package?
[01:40:24] <homik> i got it from yast
[01:40:36] <rcjsuen> homik: you just said you "got from the main page"
[01:40:39] <rcjsuen> which is it? o.O
[01:40:52] <homik> oh, woops, >.<
[01:41:14] <rcjsuen> Sal: "PDT doesn't come with any bundled debugger but you can download Zend Debugger from Zend.com or XDebug from bugzilla."
[01:41:18] <rcjsuen> http://wiki.eclipse.org/PDT/FAQ#Does_PDT_include_a_debugger.3F_Where_can_i_find_one.3F
[01:41:29] <homik> i first downloaded it from the main page, then got the error, thinking it was a dependancy issue i then went to yast
[01:41:35] <rcjsuen> o
[01:41:43] <rcjsuen> homik: do you still have the tarbal? what is its name
[01:42:22] <homik> no, i got rid of it, sorry
[01:42:35] <rcjsuen> can you give me the link then?
[01:42:56] <rcjsuen> maybe the file is still "there" in your Firefox downloads history?
[01:43:00] <homik> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/technology/epp/downloads/release/20071103/eclipse-java-europa-fall2-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
[01:43:52] <homik> its in the history as eclipse-jva-europa-fall2-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
[01:44:02] <Sal> rcjsuen, i got the all-in.one pdt package, and there is a the xdebug in it
[01:44:04] <rcjsuen> homik: http://suseforums.net/index.php?showtopic=39757 http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-bugs/2007-08/msg12160.html https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=331618
[01:44:09] <rcjsuen> Sal: where did you get it from though
[01:44:23] <Sal> wait, i'll get the url
[01:45:02] <Sal> http://download.eclipse.org/tools/pdt/downloads/?release=S20071213-M1
[01:45:33] <Sal> the file is : pdt-all-in-one-S20071213_M1-win32.zip
[01:45:34] <rcjsuen> how odd, i wonder what brought about their change of heart
[01:45:44] * rcjsuen wonders if there are licensing issues.
[01:49:05] <homik> thanks rcjsuen, that got it working
[01:49:16] <rcjsuen> homik: coo, no problem
[01:49:32] <rcjsuen> homik: Let us know if you have other problems, good luck with whatever your project is.
[01:51:18] <Matrix9> rcjsuen, thanks for the tip on build path, the jre on windows was 1.6 on fedora its supposed to be 1.7 - hence why it couldn't match them up.
[01:51:31] <rcjsuen> i see
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[02:02:34] <Matrix9> trying to open a seam web xhtml project and get this error "Caused by: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-xulrunner-gtk-3346 or swt-xulrunner-gtk in swt.library.path, java.library.path or the jar file"
[02:05:58] <secureT> how to make eclipse doing try and catch only around the smallest possible code segment?
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[02:45:32] <Matrix9> I keep getting tihs error java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space and I increased the memory in eclipse.ini, wierd
[02:47:14] <ijuma> Matrix9: with -XX:MaxPermSize?
[02:47:18] <rcjsuen> Is it set properly?
[02:47:21] <rcjsuen> pastebin your eclipse.ini
[02:47:46] <Matrix9> ijuma, yup, did that in the usr/share/eclipse/eclipse.ini
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[02:48:14] <ijuma> MacIver: what rcjsuen said then ;)
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[02:49:03] <rcjsuen> o.O
[02:49:06] <rcjsuen> hokaaaaaaaaaaay
[02:49:11] <ijuma> MacIver: oops, sorry it was for Matrix9
[02:49:17] <Matrix9> org.eclipse.platform
[02:49:19] <rcjsuen> ah, I see the problem now
[02:49:24] <rcjsuen> or just throw it in here, i s'pose
[02:49:47] <rcjsuen> Matrix9: Where did you get Eclipse?
[02:50:15] <Matrix9> rcjsuen, Its included in Fedora 8, with JDK (icedtea) 1.7
[02:50:32] <ijuma> maybe it's not getting picked up
[02:50:49] <ijuma> Matrix9: you can check with jconsole what the max perm gen size is
[02:51:00] <Matrix9> ijuma, how do I do that?
[02:51:10] <ijuma> Matrix9: jconsole
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[02:51:15] <ijuma> select the eclipse process
[02:52:02] <ijuma> memory tab, select the non-heap chart bar, one of them is the perm gen one
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[02:52:22] <ijuma> or two depending on whether it's client or server
[02:52:26] <ijuma> see what the "Max" value is
[02:53:02] <ijuma> that should work with icedtea because it's based on a snapshot of a jdk7 builds
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[02:57:05] <Sal> any pdt user here?
[02:57:14] <Matrix9> jconsole is supposed to be located in the bin directory?
[03:02:18] <ijuma> Matrix9: yeap
[03:02:19] <ijuma> Matrix9: of your jdk
[03:03:19] <Matrix9> ijuma, apparently this fedora doesn't seem to have jdk installed
[03:05:35] <ijuma> Matrix9: just the jre? I am sure you can install the jdk too
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[03:13:33] <Matrix9> ijuma, ok I got it running, how do i attach it to the eclipse process?
[03:14:07] <Matrix9> first thing is a radio button local process or remote process, on local process, only pid showing is jconsole
[03:14:49] <ijuma> Matrix9: eclipse shows as blank for some reason
[03:14:56] <ijuma> don't you have some blank entries?
[03:15:05] <ijuma> if there's only on eclipse-based process, it's easy to choose
[03:15:08] <ijuma> one*
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[03:15:50] <ijuma> or you can choose the pid based on ps/top/task manager
[03:16:48] <Matrix9> ijuma, keeps saying connection failed to that pid? the pid is correct # based on ps
[03:18:07] <Matrix9> ijuma, could it be, cause on fedora they compile eclipse?
[03:18:12] <ijuma> Matrix9: strange, always worked here
[03:18:19] <ijuma> Matrix9: is the process stuck for some reason?
[03:18:42] <Matrix9> ijuma, no i'm able to move around in the files etc
[03:19:41] <Matrix9> ijuma, can't i get this info from help/about?
[03:19:45] <ijuma> you could try passing the pid to the jconsole on start-up
[03:20:11] <ijuma> Matrix9: probably
[03:20:15] <ijuma> worth a try anyway
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[03:24:00] <Matrix9> ijuma, don't see anything... arghs.. haha
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[04:38:59] <Matrix9> eclipse.vmargs=-Dosgi.sharedConfiguration.area=/usr/lib/eclipse/configuration <-- does this mean eclipse.ini settings are not being passed?
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[05:19:19] <Johnson_> hi im trying to start eclipse and ive got this error twice. http://pastebin.com/dc94c952
[05:19:51] <rcjsuen> ~tell Johnson_ about gcj
[05:19:51] <KOS-MOS> Johnson_: GCJ is not officially supported by Eclipse as a Java runtime environment. Please talk with your distribution's packaging team and/or the GCJ team for assistance. To run Eclipse with a different JVM, see: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I_just_installed_Eclipse_on_Linux.2C_but_it_does_not_start._What_is_the_problem.3F
[05:20:21] <Johnson_> rc jseun i dont understand that.
[05:20:33] <Johnson_> i thought i had changed my default java to jre-sun
[05:20:56] <Johnson_> i've been using eclipse fine for about 2 weeks
[05:20:59] <rcjsuen> well, you thought wrong
[05:21:13] <rcjsuen> You got Eclipse from the repositories, I presume?
[05:21:22] <Johnson_> yeah. eclipse sdk
[05:21:26] <rcjsuen> That would be your first mistake.
[05:21:29] <rcjsuen> ~linux-install
[05:21:30] <KOS-MOS> Trying to install Eclipse on Linux? http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_install_Eclipse_on_Linux.3F
[05:21:57] <rcjsuen> Well, I don't know what happened to your computer between yesterday and today, but anyway
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[05:26:15] <almostautomated> Hello, anyone active?
[05:26:43] <rcjsuen> almostautomated: Why do you ask?
[05:28:35] <almostautomated> I'm looking for some direction on troubleshooting the dstore server.pl connection on a Linux host...
[05:29:04] <rcjsuen> Not sure I follow. How is this related to Eclipse (eclipse.org)?
[05:30:02] <almostautomated> Eclipse ==> DSDP => RSE/TM = dStore (server.pl)
[05:30:19] <almostautomated> It is the terminal management code to run on the target system
[05:30:50] <rcjsuen> Well, best way to get direction is to just ask
[05:31:03] <rcjsuen> I'd also recommend trying the newsgroups and/or checking bugzilla in the event that it is a bug.
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[05:33:00] <almostautomated> Yep, I browsed a little looking for something, and thought I might get lucky with someone who has it working already...
[05:33:35] <rcjsuen> you just might
[05:35:25] <almostautomated> I'm sure it is something with my target server setup...  The dstore server starts up fine and starts listening fine; then when the connection is attempted it craps out with a connection refused and java throws exceptions causing the dstore to go down.
[05:36:28] <Johnson_> rcjsuen, thanks
[05:38:24] <almostautomated> I'll just hang out a bit and see if someone might have an idea...  It isn't vital as the sftp and ssh shell are working great.  If you haven't checked out the target management features and you work with remote hosts it is worth checking out.
[05:47:41] <Johnson_> rcjsuen, im getting the same error, now its just list java6 instead of gcj
[05:48:31] <rcjsuen> Johnson_: Do you still have the tarball that you downloaded Eclipse from?
[05:49:28] <Johnson_> no i did repositories, and i went ahead and changed all the jvm reference on my os to point to java6 sun first
[05:49:42] <Johnson_> and then i removed eclipse and redownloaded it
[05:50:15] <rcjsuen> where did you download it from?
[05:50:24] <rcjsuen> Johnson_: what are you on? 32-bit? 64-bit?
[05:50:31] <Johnson_> 32 ubuntu
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[05:50:48] <Johnson_> downloaded from repositories, not gcj version this time
[05:50:49] <yi> hi, is it possible to have eclipse insert matching parenthesis automatically in java?
[05:51:22] <Johnson_> this is odd because its worked fine past few weeks. and i haven't changed anything
[05:51:32] <rcjsuen> Johnson_: get it from eclipse.org
[05:51:51] <rcjsuen> yi: it should "just do it"
[05:51:56] <rcjsuen> assuming you have the Java plug-in
[05:52:11] <rcjsuen> yi: when i open a parenthesis, it adds a closing one for me
[05:53:03] <yi> sorry, what I was being confusing. What I meant was I could select a statement (e.g., highlight it) and then hit "(" to have it automatically wrap it in parens
[05:53:23] <rcjsuen> dunno, never had a need myself
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[05:58:34] <yi> ok, another question then, are there things such as 'snippets' in eclipse?
[05:58:44] <rcjsuen> snippets?
[05:58:54] <rcjsuen> I think maybe you mean the java scrapbook or whatever it's called
[05:58:58] <yi> yeah, when I'm doing python programming in textmate for example
[05:59:01] <yi> i can type
[05:59:04] <yi> "def"<tab>
[05:59:22] <yi> and it will expand out def name(vars): where I can tab through the different fields
[05:59:33] <rcjsuen> yi: i think you want ctrl+space
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[05:59:49] <yi> rcjsuen: ah, cool!
[06:00:01] <Johnson_> i just needed to restart my system apparently
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[06:13:28] <almostautomated> yi: you might want to check out Help|Help Contents|Java Dev Guide|Tips and Tricks
[06:13:41] <yi> almostautomated: i'm actually reading it right now, thanks!
[06:14:42] <almostautomated> :)  Excellent!
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[06:27:36] <zipito> I'm trying to use CodeCompletion in Eclipse for C++ development
[06:27:45] <zipito> but it's useless
[06:27:53] <zipito> it doesn't filters at all
[06:28:33] <zipito> and prbably not fully indexed mine include dir
[06:28:46] <zipito> 'cause it rans out of memory on that stage
[06:29:11] <zipito> and that's taking (2G of SWAP and 1,2G of operating memory dedicated to Eclipse)
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[07:12:39] <deepjoy> I'm getting a Error when trying to open resource on 3.4m4 in a standalone install on gutsy with jre 1.6_03
[07:12:58] <deepjoy> can't find it in the known bugs
[07:13:28] <deepjoy> does anybody know anything about this?
[07:13:39] * deepjoy wonders if the room is empty
[07:16:03] * deepjoy says heloooooooo
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[07:20:53] <deepjoy> Is anybody else here using 3.4m4 on GTK2/x86 32-bit
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[07:44:32] <the_giver> anyone know how to get the "TODO" working in the task viewer?
[07:50:36] <the_giver> or how do i add a "todo, complete this method" or w/e
[07:53:15] <nitind> the_giver: Either write it into a comment or right-click on the left-hand margin and add a Task.
[07:53:40] <nitind> deepjoy: Maybe if you said what the error message was?
[07:54:08] <nitind> the_giver: If you have automatic builds disabled (check the Project menu), you might also need to Build.
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[11:11:56] <Appleman1234> I want to know if you have to directly specify the swt controls in createPartControl when making an eclipse for the controls to show up ?
[11:12:09] <Appleman1234> Can anyone clarify this for me ?
[11:12:14] <Appleman1234> Thanks for your time
[11:12:55] <deepjo1> I think we are here at the wrong time
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[11:13:03] <deepjo1> nobody seems to be responding to queries
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[11:13:16] <deepjo1> try on a weekday maybe?
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[11:13:48] <deepjo1> also on Europe time/ North American Time
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[11:13:57] <deepjo1> thats what I'll do I guess
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[11:30:23] <aikie> anyone here working with pdt?
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[12:07:15] <probonono> I installed pydev extension just to quickly get some python syntax highlighting. When I attempt to save a modified file, I get "Save Failed java.lang.NullPointerException". Any suggestions as to what I should check,etc?
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[12:11:57] <probonono> Hmm, I get the save error when attempting to save a file that was checked out (with subclipse). I copied the file to ~, opened it from there and it saved without error.
[12:12:18] <kirkt> are you trying to save to a path with ~ ?
[12:13:40] <kirkt> if you do, try writing the fullyqualified path, it might work.
[12:22:15] <probonono> Grrr, I was looking in the wrong directory, a left-over from an earlier attempt. It turns out it *is* saving the file. but it's giving me that error each time. The checked-out file is saved to a project folder and the workspace is in my home directory but all the references I can see (looking in properties) are using the full path.
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[13:25:27] <edrin> hi
[13:27:34] <edrin> my application gets an xml schema at runtime. it then wants to marshal/unmarshal/validate xml documents according to this schema at runtime. how can I do this without compiling the schema's classes? I want to do all this at runtime...
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[13:44:57] <njbartlett__> The schema's classes? I thought a schema was just XML
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[13:46:44] <rcjsuen> aikie: Why do you ask?
[13:53:05] <aikie> Is there any support in pdt for making getters and setter?
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[13:54:47] <rcjsuen> you could try right-clicking and taking a look at one of those menus
[13:54:52] <rcjsuen> maybe there's a 'Source' or 'Refactor' option
[13:54:59] <rcjsuen> if not, check bugzilla, someone's probably filed a request alrdy
[13:55:02] <rcjsuen> if not, just file your own :)
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[14:51:27] <mdm> hey
[14:51:35] <mdm> anyone here using pdt and zend for debugging?
[14:52:07] <mdm> I am having issues with the correct setup so it prompts on a breakpoint. I already read a couple of articles but I just dont get it right...
[14:52:18] <mdm> I know it has something to do with path setup
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[15:30:45] <Zerone> ello :)
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[15:40:32] <Imaginativeone> hey
[15:40:37] <rcjsuen> hi
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[15:46:11] <Zerone> ello rcjsuen! :)
[15:46:18] <rcjsuen> hi
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[16:00:45] <Smashcat> Hi, I'm just starting out using Eclipse (I'm a Java developer, used to Netbeans). I also need to get python working on it. Is it just me, or is there a nightmare chain of dependencies for python?
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[16:01:43] <rcjsuen> Smashcat: For Python?
[16:01:54] <rcjsuen> What OS are you on? Most Linux distributions already have Python.
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[16:02:24] <Smashcat> For python to work with Eclipse. For example, I now have the error "...requires plugin org.eclipse.ui (3.4.0.120070918)
[16:02:44] <rcjsuen> What did you download?
[16:02:48] <Smashcat> I'm on Windows for the desktop - I have a linux server, but it's headless.
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[16:03:14] <Smashcat> I installed pydev, then that needed mylyn, now mylyn needs this
[16:03:40] <rcjsuen> PyDev doesn't need Mylyn afaik.
[16:03:55] <rcjsuen> http://pydev.sourceforge.net/download.html There is no mention of Mylyn whatsoever.
[16:04:00] <Smashcat> It said it did when i tried to install the plugin update
[16:04:10] <rcjsuen> o rly
[16:04:13] <Smashcat> hmm
[16:04:20] <rcjsuen> It was probably optional but you had it selected.
[16:04:25] <rcjsuen> That happens a lot.
[16:04:50] <Smashcat> Ah ok, so mylyn's crap then? I'll uncheck it and see...
[16:04:58] <rcjsuen> I didn't say it's "crap".
[16:05:17] <rcjsuen> I just said "It was probably optional but you had it selected." The 'C' word never came up at all.
[16:05:47] <Smashcat> Ok. Looks like it's downloading now, thanks.
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[16:09:55] <Smashcat> Should the org.eclipse.ui plugin be part of the base install?
[16:10:13] <rcjsuen> Yes.
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[16:12:27] <Smashcat> Probably a version mismatch I guess. I don't write python (yet), but i'm being forced into learning some, and thing our python guy complains about most is python's pedantic verion number problems - especially with plone... Looks like fun!
[16:12:49] <ijuma> Smashcat: mylyn is a useful plug-in if you need to keep track of tasks (e.g. from a bug tracker, but local too) and it has some context-sensitive filtering (but i don't use that)
[16:13:16] <das6745> hi, how can i run php script in eclipse to see output like on web server
[16:13:27] <Smashcat> I think the mylyn project have changed their name, usefully, so that might explain why it's buggy
[16:13:36] <ijuma> Smashcat: are you using eclipse 3.3?
[16:13:45] <ijuma> Smashcat: there's no mylyn bug
[16:13:48] <rcjsuen> Smashcat: Actually, I doubt that has anything to do with the problem.
[16:13:50] <Smashcat> Whatever the version was last night
[16:14:00] <rcjsuen> Smashcat: you used a nightly build?
[16:14:12] <Smashcat> No, the stable release, as of last night
[16:14:24] <ijuma> Smashcat: so, the mylyn version you selected is for the 3.4 stream
[16:14:27] <ijuma> version problem as you said
[16:14:43] <ijuma> but there's also a mylyn update center for 3.3
[16:14:57] <rcjsuen> How would you define "the stable release, as of last night".
[16:15:08] <Smashcat> ... so it won't work anyway on 3.4 then? Doubt I need it, TBH
[16:15:17] <ijuma> rcjsuen: 3.3.1.1?
[16:15:25] <ijuma> Smashcat: it will work of course
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[16:15:27] <rcjsuen> ijuma: Or a 3.3.x maintenance build, who knows
[16:15:29] <Smashcat> rcjsuen: You're being obtuse
[16:15:43] <ijuma> but there are two versions, one for 3.3.x and another for 3.4x
[16:15:45] <ijuma> 3.4.x
[16:15:51] <Smashcat> I can't check because the update dialogue is on the screen
[16:15:52] <ijuma> you just need to select the right one
[16:15:52] <rcjsuen> Smashcat: People have said that to me before.
[16:16:42] <ijuma> rcjsuen: i would have called that a maintenance release, but whatever ;)
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[16:16:55] <rcjsuen> ijuma: I would too, but you never know.
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[16:17:11] <ijuma> it doesn't really matter
[16:17:15] <rcjsuen> ijuma: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
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[16:17:22] <ijuma> mylyn has update centers for two streams
[16:17:25] <rcjsuen> Well, they call it 3.4 Stream Stable for the M builds actually.
[16:17:28] <rcjsuen> Interesting
[16:17:47] <rcjsuen> and then 3.3.1.1 is just called "Latest Releases"
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[16:18:04] <ijuma> if it's a maintenance release or a just the "Latest release"
[16:18:16] <ijuma> as long as it's 3.3.x, it uses one update center
[16:18:26] <ijuma> and 3.4.x another
[16:18:33] <ijuma> rcjsuen: talk about confusing ;)
[16:18:41] <rcjsuen> ijuma: You mean Mylyn?
[16:18:50] <ijuma> yeap
[16:18:58] <ijuma> well
[16:19:03] <ijuma> the confusing part was not about mylyn
[16:20:11] <Smashcat> Yeah, don't think I'll be using it somehow... After working with RPMs from years ago, I tend not to bother with packages that force me into searching for obscure libs and dependencies to work, just because some developer was too bone idle to write 5 lines of code instead of linking in an entire library ;-)
[16:20:32] <ijuma> Smashcat: ok, you will enjoy the java world very much then ;)
[16:20:39] <rcjsuen> ijuma: :)
[16:20:46] <Smashcat> I don't mind Java - never had that issue ;-)
[16:21:03] * ijuma goes back to enjoying the productivity benefits of many plug-ins who were installed separately
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[16:22:59] <das6745> does anybody know how to run script in pdt as a web page???
[16:23:00] <s0nix> good morning here.
[16:23:37] <s0nix> anyone has the same problem than me...... for now, when i start eclipse i got a X11 windows blank
[16:23:38] <rcjsuen> s0nix: Hi
[16:23:53] <das6745> ...and get the same result as run on web server. thx
[16:25:48] <rcjsuen> s0nix: say what now
[16:25:51] <rcjsuen> ~tell s0nix about info
[16:25:52] <KOS-MOS> s0nix: Please state your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), your Java runtime environment (unless you checked in your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, you do not know _for sure_, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), your Eclipse version, and where did you download Eclipse from.
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[16:27:24] <s0nix> i installed manually..... Eclipse 3.3 with CDT 4 and the QT integration.......(it wat working #1)....... under a Ubuntu feisty x86
[16:27:59] <rcjsuen> So Eclipse was fine yesterday now today it won't start? Where did you download Eclipse?
[16:28:22] <s0nix> not yesterday.... it was perfect in the las 15 mins.
[16:28:38] <rcjsuen> well, close enough
[16:28:41] <s0nix> and i don't have error message nothing
[16:28:52] <rcjsuen> okay, so what happened
[16:28:58] <rcjsuen> did Eclipse crash? so you had to restart?
[16:29:06] <s0nix> absolutly nothing....... i juste closed normaly
[16:29:21] <rcjsuen> Famous last words.
[16:29:35] * rcjsuen wonders if it's that Xorg problem them Ubuntu fellows have been getting in the past 48 hours.
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[16:29:51] <rcjsuen> Where did you download Eclipse?
[16:30:04] <s0nix> with the X.... on the windows.
[16:30:19] <s0nix> should i use File->Quit ?
[16:30:35] <s0nix> normally, it doesnt matter.
[16:31:00] <rcjsuen> s0nix: Where did you download Eclipse
[16:31:14] <s0nix> from the web site.
[16:31:27] <s0nix> the one in the topic
[16:31:32] <s0nix> europa
[16:31:36] <rcjsuen> Are you starting Eclipse from the command line?
[16:32:08] <s0nix> i have made a link in my KMenu for: ~/eclipse/eclipse -vm java
[16:32:23] <rcjsuen> well ,start it from the command line
[16:32:29] <rcjsuen> no error messages doesn't mean nothing in the console
[16:32:50] <s0nix> i tryed... no message error
[16:33:03] <rcjsuen> Do you have a screenshot?
[16:33:08] <rcjsuen> what is this "X11 windows blank"
[16:33:11] <s0nix> yes one second
[16:33:13] <rcjsuen> ~logs
[16:33:14] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[16:33:54] <s0nix> if i do a -clean  , it will start.....
[16:34:01] <s0nix> but i don't wanna clean everytime
[16:34:11] <rcjsuen> That's odd, you should only have to clean once.
[16:34:22] <rcjsuen> Well, technically you could just add it to your eclipse.ini file as an additional argument.
[16:34:28] <Smashcat> Yeah, the version of Eclipse I have is 3.3.1.1 BTW. It's now throwing errors trying to update the "Eclipse Project Updates" - more version conflicts. Is there a better, more stable release?
[16:34:28] <rcjsuen> Some people do that, tell it to clean every time.
[16:35:35] <s0nix> but why? .... i just clean when i add a plugin or something
[16:35:40] <Smashcat> The error is "Eclipse RCP Path 1 for 3.3.1 (long version id) requires feature "org.eclipse.rcp (another long version id)
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[16:36:52] <rcjsuen> s0nix: If I knew why I would've said ;)
[16:38:24] <s0nix> si just sent you the link
[16:38:45] <rcjsuen> ~imagebin
[16:38:45] <KOS-MOS> Please upload your screenshots online - http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add - http://imagebin.ca/upload.php - http://imageshack.us/
[16:38:50] <rcjsuen> upload it online so others can see
[16:39:04] <s0nix> it online follow the url
[16:39:15] <s0nix> ha , for other..
[16:39:30] <Smashcat> Hehe, after a software update, it Eclipse no longer responds after it opens the window. Cheers guys, think i'll go back to Netbeans ;-)
[16:39:45] <rcjsuen> Smashcat: Best of luck!
[16:41:02] <s0nix> http://imagebin.org/13235
[16:41:49] <Smashcat> Thanks, good luck to you guys too! ;-)
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[16:52:10] <s0nix> rcjsuen: if i use File->Quit......... it work and restart correctly
[16:52:39] <rcjsuen> o
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[16:52:56] <das6745> who know how to set server publish directory in pdt, i just cant find how =(
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[17:06:13] <richie> can someone explain me how is that error possible? http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/2991/captureym9.png
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[17:09:49] <rcjsuen> What happens if you import?
[17:09:58] <rcjsuen> Good lord you don't have line numbers on
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[17:10:39] <richie> nothing happens if i import, i guess eclipse see that it is already there :(
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[17:10:54] <rcjsuen> What is the error?
[17:11:26] <richie> Person2 cannot be resolved to a type
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[17:11:45] <rcjsuen> If you hit F3 what happens
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[17:12:34] <richie> it goes to Person2 declaration
[17:13:03] <rcjsuen> try Project / Clean
[17:14:25] <richie> aah than you so much rcjsuen, stupid me, i didn't test that...
[17:14:30] <richie> thank
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[17:16:11] <richie> rcjsuen: by the way, do you know struts stuff ?
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[17:16:27] <rcjsuen> No, I don't do web / j2ee / whatever.
[17:17:29] <richie> i think my current problem is related to path on eclipse: i get this error : java.io.FileNotFoundException: jasper/our_jasper_template.jrxml (No such file or directory) and..
[17:18:05] <richie> i have that code JasperCompileManager.compileReportToFile("jasper/our_jasper_template.jrxml"...
[17:18:49] <richie> well.. problem is where to put this folder?
[17:19:25] <richie> or simply getting my code to access this jrxml file
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[17:36:25] <aca20031> Im trying to get Subclipse to work with opensvn but I keep getting this on initial import:  svn: PROPFIND of '/WarJudge': 405 Method Not Allowed (https://opensvn.csie.org)
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[17:38:39] <rcjsuen> When was the CNF pushed down to the Platform? 3.1? 3.2?
[17:38:56] <rcjsuen> Okay, I guess 3.2 "The CNF began as a product solution for a general problem in IBM Rational Application Developer v6.0, and has been contributed to the open source Eclipse Platform in 3.2 to allow the community to better integrate their navigational viewers and provide a more cohesive user experience across software layers and products."
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[17:44:57] <aca20031> soo anyone, subclipse/opensvn? :)
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[17:48:38] <Taube> How can i change my commit name with subclipse?
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[18:07:22] <rorUnni> mhm
[18:07:29] <rorUnni> nu passt natürlich miranda absolut net
[18:07:35] <rorUnni> und das netbeans farbschema auch noch net ;)
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[18:08:39] <rcjsuen> rorUnni: try English or try #eclipse-de
[18:09:07] <rorUnni> argh
[18:09:12] <rorUnni> wrong chat :(
[18:09:19] <rorUnni> sorry guys ;)
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[18:43:08] <richie> does someone have a code sample of an appli using [spring2+jasper reports] or [struts2+jasper reports]?
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[18:51:38] <rcjsuen> anyone ever get System.out.println(fl.getFullPath().toFile().exists()); System.out.println(fl.exists()); - top true bottom false? o.O
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[18:52:51] <rcjsuen> or false / true
[18:54:13] <rcjsuen> I think I see the problem.
[18:54:17] <rcjsuen> One is workspace relative, the other isn't.
[18:54:45] <rcjsuen> oh, and 'fl' is an IFile ^
[18:54:54] <rcjsuen> workspace relative gives true for the IFile but false for the full path
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[19:33:21] <nitind> .toFile() turns the path into a java.io.File, so the fullpath will almost never be what you want to use.  That would be the location instead.
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[19:34:16] <rcjsuen> i tried getLocation() but i think that was null
[19:34:19] <rcjsuen> no matter, i filed a bug
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[20:00:22] <rcjsuen> N20080119-0010 here, 'Problems' view,  drop down, show, Configure Contents
[20:00:25] <rcjsuen> ..........with a checkbox? wtf
[20:04:14] <nitind> wha?
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[20:06:27] <rcjsuen> nitind: http://imagebin.ca/img/ty6qEc6.jpg
[20:07:12] <nitind> That is kind of weird.
[20:08:17] <Zerone> :D
[20:10:44] <rcjsuen> It's weird being in the 'Show' submenu already.
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[20:13:45] <rcjsuen> "style passed to control tooltip behaviour" > "style passed to control tooltip behavior"
[20:13:53] <rcjsuen> uh-oh, not spelling wars in CVS
[20:17:33] <rcjsuen> dear god that pde dialog problem is still not fixed
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[20:58:16] <das6745> sorry for dumb question, but how to execute sql (mysql) query in eclipse (pdt-all-in-one)? i've already conntect to mysql database, now i'm in database development perspective. thx
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[20:59:15] <rcjsuen> das6745: http://assets.devx.com/articlefigs/17416.gif
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[21:01:02] <das6745> and how to configure eclipse or what plugin(s) i should download to execute query
[21:01:32] <rcjsuen> Well, I guess one option is from the dtp project.
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[21:07:51] <das6745> there are "data tool platform" pluggins in pluggin details
[21:08:05] <rcjsuen> Then it sounds like you should be set.
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[21:11:25] <das6745> here is available preferences http://img177.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot6io4.png
[21:13:06] <das6745> have no idea where to look ((
[21:13:31] <njbartlett__> Yuck, did you choose that colour scheme or is somebody forcing you under threats of violence?
[21:15:07] <das6745> hehe, no, i chose it, cause i have old crt monitor and dark theme is good for it
[21:15:52] <das6745> and quite nice when i switch from shell to gui apps =)
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[21:21:14] <rcjsuen> das6745: make a new SQL file and try to execute it
[21:22:57] <das6745> i'm a dumb
[21:22:58] <das6745> sry
[21:23:22] <das6745> ther is 'execute' in context meny
[21:23:32] <das6745> and I tried to Run
[21:24:13] <das6745> but can i execute sql with Run?
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[21:37:00] <NMajik> Is this a support channel?
[21:37:31] <das6745> kinda
[21:38:45] <rcjsuen> ~hi
[21:38:46] <KOS-MOS> Welcome to this channel. If you have a question, please ask it. Or, type ~faq for a link to the Frequently Asked Questions.
[21:39:09] <NMajik> Well, I just installed Eclipse on Ubuntu using apt-get.  When I start it up, it brings up the view I would expect, but on pressing help > software updates > find updates it quits and gives me an error, found here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/52819/
[21:39:24] <rcjsuen> ~gcj
[21:39:25] <KOS-MOS> GCJ is not officially supported by Eclipse as a Java runtime environment. Please talk with your distribution's packaging team and/or the GCJ team for assistance. To run Eclipse with a different JVM, see: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I_just_installed_Eclipse_on_Linux.2C_but_it_does_not_start._What_is_the_problem.3F
[21:39:26] <NMajik> And I don't know enough for that to mean anything to me
[21:39:27] <rcjsuen> ~linux-install
[21:39:27] <KOS-MOS> Trying to install Eclipse on Linux? http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_install_Eclipse_on_Linux.3F
[21:39:40] <rcjsuen> If you get Eclipse from apt-get, you ened to tell your distro when you have problems.
[21:40:27] <NMajik> "ened"?
[21:40:34] <NMajik> Need
[21:40:34] <NMajik> Oh
[21:40:36] <das6745> NMajik: you don't have rights to write to system directories
[21:40:51] <das6745>  try manual update or apt-get update
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[21:46:37] <das6745> there is execution plan view in dtp, does it work with mysql queries?
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[22:05:35] <rcjsuen> NMajik: Did you try downloading Eclipse from eclipse.org?
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[22:12:49] <NMajik> No, I think I'm going to try that next. By adding some packages and updating everything, then running with gksudo it opens fine. When I try the same thing I did before, nothing happens; better than a crash I suppose
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[22:35:04] <das6745> sry, but does execution plan  in dtp works with mysql?
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[22:40:52] <d03boy> I had the regular Eclipse Europa installed adn then I downlaoded the J2EE version adn copied over it.. it didnt seem to work though
[22:41:11] <d03boy> at least it didnt seem like it worked
[22:41:17] <d03boy> nothing seemed different
[22:41:32] <d03boy> can anyone tell me how I upgrade or hwo I can tell if it worked?
[22:41:54] <rcjsuen> You shouldn't download two different verisons and then copy one on top of the other.
[22:42:20] <d03boy> well then maybe eclipse should have an installer
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[22:42:40] <rcjsuen> If you want an installer you could try EasyEclipse.
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[22:42:50] <rcjsuen> There's probably a bug open asking for an installer though.
[22:42:50] <mohbana> hello
[22:42:53] <rcjsuen> mohbana: Hi
[22:43:02] <rcjsuen> d03boy: pombreda would be able to help you with EasyEclipse.
[22:43:30] <d03boy> too late now. i already copied my crap over
[22:46:58] <rcjsuen> I'd recommend just unzipping the jee package again and running that instead
[22:47:31] <d03boy> the jee package?
[22:47:36] <d03boy> oh
[22:47:43] <d03boy> ya, i unzipped it right on top of my old install
[22:47:48] <d03boy> but.. i just deleted my old install
[22:47:51] <d03boy> so I hope i didnt lose anything of value
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[22:50:32] <rcjsuen> Right, by again, I mean, in an empty folder
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[22:54:32] <d_a_carver> d03boy: Did you try restarting eclipse with the -clean option.
[22:55:14] <d_a_carver> if you do what you did, then you need to use -clean to make sure configuration files are update correctly and it can regcognize all the new plugins.
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[22:55:53] <njbartlett> Anybody know a good tutorial for writing a text editor, with all the nice stuff like completion, syntax highlighting, etc?
[22:56:04] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: Can't say I do.
[22:56:10] <rcjsuen> They do give you a sample XML editor.
[22:56:15] <rcjsuen> as a PDE template
[22:56:22] <njbartlett> Oh yeah that's true
[22:56:29] <rcjsuen> so there is syntax highlighting at least, per se
[22:56:57] <rcjsuen> Let me know if you have specific questions and I'll try to help.
[22:57:16] <d_a_carver> njbartlett: check the past EclipseCon tutorials, usually find a sample there.
[22:57:45] <d03boy> i gotta go. I think i'll figure it out. cya
[22:57:45] <njbartlett> d_a_carver: Another good idea, thanks
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[22:58:02] <d_a_carver> njbartlett: it depends on what you are wantting to do.. I know the WTP did some for using and extending SSE.
[22:58:57] <rcjsuen> There's certainly never enough documentation. ;)
[23:00:19] <njbartlett> Ultimately I want to know how to build a fully fledged editor for a programming language. But I need to start small :-)
[23:01:42] <rcjsuen> well, nitind's well-versed with editors since he does sse
[23:02:39] <njbartlett> Yeah well it's going to be basic noob questions from me for a while, so I'll stick to whatever tutorial I can find
[23:02:50] <rcjsuen> heheh ;)
[23:02:53] <rcjsuen> ~dev-faq
[23:02:56] <rcjsuen> I wonder did I add that back.
[23:02:58] <rcjsuen> I guess not.
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[23:03:16] <d_a_carver> njbartlett: There is a decent tutorial for the dltk I saw yesterday, has most of the framework for what you are looking for I would think.
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[23:03:30] <rcjsuen> ~add dev-faq Writing Eclipse plug-ins / RCP apps and don't know where to turn? http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Plug-in_Development_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/RCP_FAQ
[23:03:30] <KOS-MOS> The new keyword "dev-faq" has been stored. In the future, you can ask me about "dev-faq" and I will respond.
[23:03:44] <rcjsuen> I've written a couple of faqs on editors http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Plug-in_Development_FAQ#Editor
[23:03:49] <rcjsuen> Although the answers are all pretty short.
[23:03:52] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: you should put in the EclipseCon web site as well.
[23:03:54] <rcjsuen> And assume you have the code in front of you
[23:05:42] <njbartlett> Ah, the "official" FAQ looks reasonably helpful
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[23:06:06] <rcjsuen> njbartlett: Except it's 3.0.
[23:06:25] <njbartlett> Oh.
[23:06:30] <rcjsuen> ~set dev-faq Writing Eclipse plug-ins / RCP apps and don't know where to turn? See these FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Plug-in_Development_FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/The_Official_Eclipse_FAQs - http://wiki.eclipse.org/RCP_FAQ / Or look at EclipseCon talks/tutorials - http://www.eclipsecon.org/
[23:06:31] <KOS-MOS> The keyword "dev-faq" has been updated with the new reply in my database.
[23:06:36] <d_a_carver> njbartlett: just found this as well: http://www.realsolve.co.uk/site/tech/jface-text.php
[23:06:54] <rcjsuen> "The initial contents for these FAQ pages has come from The Offical Eclipse 3.0 FAQs written by John Arthorne and Chris Laffra."
[23:07:03] <rcjsuen> I'm sure some of them are updated, but anyway...
[23:07:14] <njbartlett> d_a_carver: Cool, thanks!
[23:07:19] <rcjsuen> oh right, I remember that link
[23:07:27] <rcjsuen> Except it was XML-based.
[23:08:25] <d_a_carver> yeah, but the concepts should apply.
[23:08:42] <d_a_carver> and for programming languages, then there is SSE and dltk.
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[23:28:55] <subopt> I'm trying to dl/install the Mylyn project from our eclipse3.2.1 installation at work, and the Update Manager seems to have stalled while trying to connect to the Callisto Discovery Site (at only a nominal 6% complete). I hit this issue a couple years ago, when i was trying to learn/use Eclipse, but i can't remember how i resolved it. Any clues?
[23:29:23] <rcjsuen> Mylyn doesn't run on 3.2.1
[23:29:35] <rcjsuen> For 3.2.1 I think you need the original Mylar.
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[23:30:45] <subopt> rcjsuen: Okay, but i haven't even gotten to that part of it yet. The Update Manager stalled as soon as it tried to connect. I think there was some kind of proxy setting i had to do, but i don't remember where Eclipse let me set it.
[23:33:06] <subopt> Never mind. I think i found it.
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[23:41:00] <rcjsuen> If I'm writing an API method and it does nothing. Should I say "Subclasses should re-implement"? "Subclasses may re-implement"? re-implement? reimplement?
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[23:46:47] <njbartlett> rcjsuen: The Economist Style Guide suggests that you only need the hyphen to separate identical letters. Eg book-keeping, pre-empt, re-entry
[23:47:15] <rcjsuen> very well
[23:47:16] <njbartlett> Versus predate, precondition, rearm, rearrange, reborn
[23:47:20] * rcjsuen respins patch
[23:47:56] <njbartlett> Unfortunately the rule sometime needs to be over-ridden
[23:47:57] <njbartlett> ;-)
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[23:48:08] <rcjsuen> you got me!
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