[00:00:28] <Jimbob2k> anyone got any experience with Edit Source Lookup Path? It's just not working and should be a no-brainer.
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[00:11:13] <Jimbob2k> it's ok, eclipse seemed to 'learn' a path mapping when I pointed it to one of the sources.
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[00:17:22] <Pupeno> Hello.
[00:17:42] <Pupeno> Is it possible to update eclipse 3.3.0 to 3.3.1.1 through the internal software install?
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[00:19:54] <Sal> anyone here is using PDT with Zend debugger?
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[00:29:19] <ferric84> I'm having an issue with 3.3.1.1 in XP where sometimes when I'm typing there is a serious lag, to the point where I can't use eclipse to do dev work because it takes the program so long to catch up with what I typed
[00:29:28] <ferric84> I have 2gb of ram, so I'm sure that's not an issue
[00:29:29] <ferric84> any ideas?
[00:29:48] <mo> in my plugin i got an action for *.c-files. i can use it with right click in navigator-view, but not in c/c++ projects-tab. whats wrong?
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[00:33:55] <mo> ah, i got to set adaptle to "true" :)
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[00:42:33] <ahughes> While trying to install the maven plugin... I get *An exception occured while downloading feature from http://m2eclipse.codehaus.org/update/features/org.maven.ide.eclipse.feature_0.0.12.20071107-2300.jar" Do you want to retry?*  but the jar/url is correct. and i can hit if from a browser.... what's this exception it doesn't seem to be from network/host it seems to be on my side
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[00:46:17] <ahughes> ok, so I bounced eclipse and now it works... weird
[00:49:48] <ahughes> actually no, it still does not work.. that was some other jar it just downloaded
[00:50:06] <ahughes> how can I find what this "Exception"  is
[00:50:46] <ahughes> Oooooo i think it must be timeouts!
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[01:19:12] <dmiles_afk> rcjsuen, ahh i think i got emonic buidler to finaly run on a project.. i can copy that builder into another project maybe?
[01:19:30] <dmiles_afk> one that isnt .Net?
[01:19:40] <rcjsuen> "copy that builder"?
[01:19:47] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Well, it just runs Ant / NAnt.
[01:19:55] <rcjsuen> So, hell, you could use it on a Java project.
[01:20:40] <dmiles_afk> right thats what i want .. i just use org.emonic.base.prefs
[01:21:03] <rcjsuen> Pupeno: It should be.
[01:21:26] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Couldn't you just set up your own External Tool builder that does the same thing? o.O
[01:21:32] <rcjsuen> our builder isn't exactly "advanced" lol
[01:21:42] <dmiles_afk> :) i know .. i know
[01:21:54] <rcjsuen> ferric84: could be problems with plug-ins
[01:22:01] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: What are you using it for? o.O
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[01:22:32] <dmiles_afk> i have a .java and .cs mix .. Cyc and OpenSim
[01:22:49] <rcjsuen> Ah, I see.
[01:23:00] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Yeah, we don't have an "Add Builder to this non-Emonic project" thingamajig.
[01:23:07] <dmiles_afk> Nant build is good.. but there is help ikvm  needs from ecj
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[01:23:46] <dmiles_afk> or Nant needs from Ant needs .. IKVM can be a weak link
[01:25:26] <dmiles_afk> since IKVM has a phase MyStuff.class -> MyStuffInThe.jar MyStuffInThe.dll -> MyStuffInThe.jar that the last jar is a stub made to call into the .dll
[01:26:14] <rcjsuen> lol, dll > jar again
[01:26:42] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Are you using 0.3.0?'
[01:26:52] <rcjsuen> Or did you build a CVS?
[01:26:54] <dmiles_afk> i think i am
[01:27:01] <dmiles_afk> i did the 0.3.0
[01:27:03] <rcjsuen> ah
[01:27:15] <dmiles_afk> maybe as well use the CVS than?
[01:27:32] <dmiles_afk> may as well use the CVS then?
[01:27:33] <rcjsuen> You could if you dare.
[01:27:50] <rcjsuen> There are more features / bug fixes (obviously).
[01:27:53] <rcjsuen> Depends what you're using it for
[01:27:58] <rcjsuen> sounds like you're just using the builder right now ;)
[01:28:03] <rcjsuen> which in that case then it doesn't relaly matter
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[01:28:14] <dmiles_afk> yeah generally the cvs versions of something like this is better.. more features
[01:28:35] <rcjsuen> but if you are using the C# editor then I'd say try the CVS one
[01:28:41] <dmiles_afk> i dunno what all i am going to be using or not yet
[01:29:01] <dmiles_afk> yeah i hope to actualyl edit c# as well
[01:29:06] <rcjsuen> It's a rough world out there.
[01:29:11] <rcjsuen> It's cool you are doing this C#/Java business though imo.
[01:29:17] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Are you using Mainsoft's stuff?
[01:29:30] <dmiles_afk> Mainsoft = ?
[01:29:44] <dmiles_afk> IKVM the .NET JVM
[01:29:48] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: some C# / Java bridge thingy
[01:29:56] <rcjsuen> i think write Java and deploy to ASP.NET or something.......?
[01:30:22] <dmiles_afk> nope.. the IKVM  .class->.ilasm thying
[01:30:30] <dmiles_afk> thing
[01:31:20] <dmiles_afk> so the c# is untainted .. the java has to realy on classpath/openjdk
[01:31:52] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: I'm going to go afk, but let me know if you (or us know on SourceForge) have problems. Hopefully, it is already fixed in CVS HEAD, but anyway...
[01:32:23] <dmiles_afk> ok cool, i was just saying hi and yeah we'll see
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[02:52:51] <Belxjander> is there any up to date python editing plugins for eclipse ?
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[03:13:46] <tmccrary> I am getting an exception: Failed to execute runnable (java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/lwjgl/BufferUtils)
[03:14:01] <tmccrary> but I KNOW that the class IS defined
[03:14:55] <tmccrary> ?????????
[03:16:54] <tmccrary> this is maddeniung
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[03:26:29] <rcjsuen> Belxjander: PyDev?
[03:26:34] <rcjsuen> Belxjander: DLTK?
[03:26:41] <rcjsuen> tmccrary: Would probably mean it's not on the classpath of the running JVM.
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[03:32:50] <Belxjander> rcjsuen: Ive just found PyDev
[03:33:20] <rcjsuen> Belxjander: o.O That's the first hit on google with 'python eclipse'
[03:33:34] <Belxjander> rcjsuen: I ended up with a different result
[03:33:42] <rcjsuen> Probably a location thing
[03:33:43] <Belxjander> but then I put eclipse first
[03:33:58] <rcjsuen> I've had bad experiences with google.abc
[03:34:01] <rcjsuen> instead of google.com
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[03:34:23] <Belxjander> rcjsuen: uhmm 3rd hit for me,  I have Japanese sites showing first
[03:34:23] <rcjsuen> Belxjander: Anyway, good to hear you found it, good luck.
[03:34:51] <Belxjander> just need wait for eclipse to finish pulling in the material Ive told it to add
[03:35:20] <rcjsuen> well, whatever the problem, you found it anyway
[03:35:49] <Belxjander> not so much a problem so much as wanting to start blank slate with an IDE I actually know
[03:50:00] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: How complicated are these .sln .csproj files?
[03:58:56] <tmccrary> rcjsuen: Thanks! It actually was kind of similar. It was an issue with the classpath dependency chain
[03:59:12] <rcjsuen> I see.
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[05:00:45] <ferric84> any ideas?
[05:00:47] <ferric84> I'm having an issue with 3.3.1.1 in XP where sometimes when I'm typing there is a serious lag, to the point where I can't use eclipse to do dev work because it takes the program so long to catch up with what I typed
[05:00:49] <ferric84> I have 2gb of ram, so I'm sure that's not an issue
[05:01:33] <rcjsuen> ferric84: Never had that problem on XP or Vista (and I've used it on 512 ram and 1 gig)
[05:01:41] <rcjsuen> Which Eclipse package did you download?
[05:01:49] <rcjsuen> Do you have a lot of plug-ins installed?
[05:01:55] <ferric84> only cfeclipse
[05:01:58] <rcjsuen> Something could be raging in the background.
[05:02:05] <rcjsuen> ferric84: Which Eclipse package did you download
[05:02:16] <ferric84> not sure
[05:02:17] <ferric84> hold on
[05:02:25] <rcjsuen> Do you have problems when using the base package?
[05:02:36] <rcjsuen> There are lots of variables. It is not easy to identify an offending plug-in.
[05:02:41] <rcjsuen> Assuming it even is a plug-in problem.
[05:02:52] <ferric84> I just downloaded eclipse classic and installed my cfeclipse plugin
[05:02:57] <ferric84> that's all i've done with it
[05:03:13] <rcjsuen> Do you have problems with Eclipse Classic?
[05:03:47] <ferric84> i haven't used it extensively enough to tell
[05:04:10] <rcjsuen> well, what files are you editing, cfml files?
[05:04:19] <ferric84> yeah
[05:04:20] <ferric84> .cfm
[05:04:39] <rcjsuen> what is "sometimes"
[05:04:41] <rcjsuen> what if you edit other files
[05:05:18] <ferric84> sometimes is the majority of the time
[05:05:39] <rcjsuen> Okay, so it's "reproducible".
[05:05:43] <rcjsuen> So do you get it on non-cfm files?
[05:05:44] <ferric84> the only other files i've edited are .js, and from the limited time i've been editing them it's been ok
[05:06:33] <rcjsuen> So it is possible to guess it is a problem with the .cfm editor.
[05:06:47] <rcjsuen> Or not, but anyway, no one can say without further analysis.
[05:07:01] <ferric84> either case, would would you suggest?
[05:08:08] <rcjsuen> ferric84: check cfeclipse's bug tracking system / forums / mailing list / whatever
[05:08:25] <rcjsuen> edit .cfm files in a regular Eclipse Classic unzip for, i dunno, five minutes?
[05:08:27] <rcjsuen> see what happens
[05:08:55] <ferric84> ok
[05:08:56] <ferric84> thanks
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[06:37:23] <Belxjander> anyone ever try installing the subversive extensions and have it fail to show up as usable ?
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[07:14:55] <SKuhn> damn it, isn't the plugin log4j available by an update site?
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[08:26:43] <po7m> i am a newbie. i've searched google, but nothing explains how to install java documentation for eclipse on mac osx.  Do i download the file, or is it already there?  How do i search for stuff in docs ?
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[09:26:39] <Dominik> hi there, i've got a problem with the internationalization of my rcp application. and maybe someone can help me. i'll just explain to you, what i did and what goes wrong
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[09:27:33] <Dominik> i've created for my gui messages.properties-files for the different languages and put them into the according packages. the get read and the gui now is able to present itself in English and in German
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[09:27:54] <Dominik> but still the rcp labels in the properties dialog and views aren't internationlized
[09:28:06] <Dominik> therefore i created the plugin.properties and plugin_de.properties files
[09:28:40] <Dominik> and changed the labels in the plugin.xml from the german names to somewhat '%plugin.xyz....'
[09:29:22] <Dominik> that works great when I run the application from eclipse. but when i export it, i see the plain property-names. (i already checked the the plugin.properties-files are included in the building process).
[09:29:35] <Dominik> so anyone's got a clue on how to solve this problem?
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[09:38:42] <Dominik> maybe another information: i just found out that everything seems to work if i manually extract my plugin's jar file into a local folder. then rcp seems to find the properties files.
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[09:55:32] <MacGyverNL> Is there an FTP mirror for installing new features?
[09:55:50] <MacGyverNL> The firewall here has a habit of corrupting HTTP downloads.
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[09:59:43] <MacGyverNL> More specifically, an FTP mirror for the Europa Discovery site.
[10:06:39] <pschriner> MacGyverNL: ftp://sunsite.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/mirror/eclipse.org/
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[10:39:14] <phylax> when i edit html-templates eclipse signals errors for the "<%...%>" template-tags
[10:39:31] <phylax> is there an plugin which understands custom template-tags?
[10:39:46] <phylax> or an other way to prevent those errors?
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[10:52:36] <kirkt> can anyone help me with an exporting to jar problem?
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[10:58:10] <MacGyverNL> Does the eclipse update manager do CRC checks on the downloaded files?
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[12:10:16] <xLE> where is eclipse installed to?
[12:12:40] <kirkt> what ever you specify. if its a zip, just unzip it to your directory
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[12:19:52] <AStorm> hello
[12:20:04] <AStorm> I've a problem w/ eclipse and projects
[12:20:28] <AStorm> maybe, wait, I'll try something more
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[12:27:34] <AStorm> I've a problem importing existing java source
[12:37:10] <AStorm> ok, solved it myself
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[13:31:09] <rcjsuen> kirkt: ask questions instead of metaquestions (wrt exporting to jar problem)
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[13:40:54] <rcjsuen> Isn't 'Save Actions' an API or extension point or something?
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[13:41:16] <paulweb515> rcjsuen: Save Actions (things to do on save) I think is part of java editors preferences
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[13:41:49] <rcjsuen> paulweb515: I thought I could do something to add an extension point to add "do this on save" functionality on my editor, I guess not.
[13:42:03] <rcjsuen> Well, I suppose it's no different from adding stuff to the doSave method in my EditorPart subclass
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[13:54:42] <paulweb515> rcjsuen: you can add an IExecutionListener and listen for the org.eclipse.ui.file.save command
[13:54:55] <rcjsuen> paulweb515: Is that a 3.3 thing?
[13:55:25] <paulweb515> rcjsuen: it's in 3.3, although it's most reliable in 3.4 ... it won't capture programmatic requests to save, just user requests
[13:55:32] <rcjsuen> blegh
[13:55:38] <rcjsuen> my fellow devs don't want to jump from 3.2.x ;(
[13:56:13] <rcjsuen> although we just uncovered a bug yesterday cuz one was testing on 3.3.1.1 and couldn't open external files (cuz of FileStoreEditorInput) and I never had the problem on 3.2.2 target platform cuz that wasn't in 3.2.x
[13:57:25] <n_np> urg
[13:57:28] <n_np> isnt there a web form designer?
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[14:07:57] <nitind> n_np: Yes, did you install WTP 2.0?
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[14:32:20] <Sal> hello
[14:32:31] <Sal> anyone here is using zend PDT ?
[14:32:42] <rcjsuen> Sal: Ask the real questoin.
[14:32:50] <Sal> ok, sorry
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[14:33:27] <rcjsuen> Anyone want to help me answer this question and convince my fellow devs to move on to 3.3.x? ;p "Is there a single feature in eclipse 3.3 that is so important to drop the support for all the people using [the plug-in] under 3.2? Can't see one...."
[14:33:42] <rcjsuen> It's a plug-in so it's not like a product built on top of Eclipse wherein we could say "Now they get Ctrl+3"
[14:33:47] <rcjsuen> more at a platform api level i guess
[14:33:48] <Sal> i have a local htdocs project and would like to edit it with PDT. do i have to import all the files ina project or link the htdoc directory?
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[14:34:32] <paulweb515> rcjsuen: improved commands/menu contribution support (menu declaration simplification)
[14:34:39] <Sal> considering that i would like to debug the project as a webpage and not as a script
[14:34:45] <paulweb515> rcjsuen: but you can use 3.3 to develop 3.2 stuff :-)
[14:34:47] <rcjsuen> Sal: you should be able to link folders, i've never done it...i'm assuming "Zend" PDT is the same as regular PDT
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[14:34:58] <rcjsuen> paulweb515: i use I builds and set target plat on 3.2
[14:34:59] <Sal> rcjsuen, yes
[14:35:09] <paulweb515> rcjsuen: they're also the support/bugfixing issue ... 3.2 is old news
[14:35:11] <Sal> rcjsuen, how do you do it?
[14:35:22] <rcjsuen> paulweb515: yeah we have some ugly ugly action wiring with IDs and other horrid shtuff
[14:35:37] <rcjsuen> Sal: I've never done it, so, I'm not sure, to be honest.
[14:35:44] <Sal> oh
[14:35:54] <rcjsuen> but people talk about it all the time ;p
[14:36:30] <Sal> the problem is that i can't find any "publish before debug" switch, so i think that the files have to stay under the web server root to be able to debug them correctly
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[14:38:18] <nitind> rcjsuen: Ctrl+3?
[14:38:55] <rcjsuen> paulweb515: Sure I can use 3.2 and up to dev 3.2 target plat, but switching TPs all the time (cuz theoretically, even though I don't, I would have to test all code on 3.2.2, 3.3.1.1, and 3.4Ms) is annoying
[14:38:58] <rcjsuen> nitind: Quick Access?
[14:39:04] <rcjsuen> The "new ctrl+1"?
[14:39:25] <rcjsuen> and yes, 3.2 is oooooooooold
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[14:40:59] <Sal> is there anyone here that can tell me the correct way to debug a website using PDT please?
[14:44:31] <rcjsuen> Sal: What do you mean "publish"
[14:44:47] <Sal> i mean to copy on webserver root
[14:45:01] <Sal> because eclipse puts the files in its workspace
[14:45:16] <Sal> so before debugging, i need to publish the files
[14:45:35] <rcjsuen> you should be able to use linked resources or use TM to handle this case, i would think
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[14:46:31] <Sal> TM?
[14:46:33] <cbx33> GAHHH this is driving me nuts every time i do anything I get a Process Resource Updates dialog pop up
[14:46:48] <cbx33> about a NoDataDeltaNode cannot be cast to a DataTreeNode
[14:46:59] <rcjsuen> ~tm
[14:46:59] <KOS-MOS> Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
[14:48:37] <Sal> the problem is that PDT inserts the linked resources in a "include Paths" folder, and that folder is invisible in the debug dialog
[14:48:46] <Sal> so there must be a way to do it
[14:49:33] <rcjsuen> cbx33: Check bugzilla then
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[14:51:23] <cbx33> also...I'm fairly new to C
[14:51:28] <cbx33> I've made some changes to a sourcefile
[14:51:35] <cbx33> but when i recompile...or Build the project
[14:51:44] <cbx33> it is still complaining about this that I thought I'd fixed
[14:54:30] <Sal> rcjsuen, where are the pdt guys?
[14:54:42] <Sal> pdt fellows! wake up!
[14:54:42] <rcjsuen> Sal: Define "where"
[14:54:47] <rcjsuen> Sal: You could ask on the PDT newsgroup.
[14:54:53] <rcjsuen> or try phpeclipse
[14:55:00] <Sal> omg!
[14:55:05] <Sal> let me try that, thanks
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[14:56:38] <AhtiK> wow this new build schedule page is quite clumsy to find when 3.4 final ships :( (http://www.eclipse.org/eclipse/platform-releng/buildSchedule.html)
[14:56:58] <AhtiK> any ideas if there's still this old simple html page available with 3.4Mx and 3.4 final dates?:)
[14:57:12] <rcjsuen> I don't think there's anything "definite" for 3.4 final yet.
[14:57:16] <rcjsuen> or maybe there is
[14:57:21] <rcjsuen> just go look ta the Ganymede wiki page
[14:59:16] <AhtiK> rcjsuen: thanks for the hint! yeah, http://wiki.eclipse.org/Ganymede#Ganymede_Builds was the page to check. so 3.4 comes in June.
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[15:00:04] <AhtiK> first RC in the middle of May
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[15:01:09] <Sal> rcjsuen, :) phpeclipse isn't pdt... i thing they god bad when i asked for pdt in there :)
[15:01:20] <rcjsuen> Eh?
[15:01:33] <rcjsuen> Yes, I know phpeclipse isn't PDT, so I suggested it because it is a different plug-in so you might like that one better.
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[15:02:36] <Sal> rcjsuen, it doesn't have any debugger
[15:06:29] <Sal> rcjsuen, ok... seems that the pdt copies files automatically to the server root before debugging.
[15:07:45] <Aso`> it does have debugging however to get it working can be a hassle
[15:07:56] <Aso`> you could try the nightly build of eclipse
[15:08:06] <Aso`> phpeclipse*
[15:08:32] <Sal> zend debugging is fantastic
[15:08:51] <Sal> its just like the dbg
[15:08:54] <Aso`> i never got that working properly either :s
[15:09:06] <Sal> i just did, its nice
[15:09:28] <Aso`> does it have breakpoints and such ?
[15:17:04] <Sal> yes
[15:17:30] <Sal> Aso`, do you knw the dbg debugger that runs in nusphere phped?
[15:18:44] <Aso`> nope, never used nuSphere.
[15:19:23] <Aso`> you could try it though maybe it works better in nuSphere
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[15:32:39] <Sal> Aso`, i was using nusphere phped, and it was good... only was tell you about it just to say that the zend debugger is better than the nusphere dbg debugger
[15:32:57] <Aso`> ahh ok
[15:33:19] <Aso`> ok maybe ill try zend debugger again someday
[15:33:43] <Sal> i installed the all-in-one package from the zend web site
[15:34:03] <Sal> http://www.zend.com/en/community/pdt
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[15:40:46] <rcjsuen> vahapt_: Look in the Help that comes with Eclipse.
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[15:41:54] <vahapt_> rcjsuen: I've looked at it however It does not provide enough information
[15:42:11] <vahapt_> rcjsuen: or I could not find correct section
[15:42:15] <rcjsuen> When all else fails I guess you could look at the code.
[15:43:09] <vahapt_> rcjsuen: Hardest but the best :)
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[16:05:11] <yassine> good evning everyone
[16:06:06] <yassine> why does eclipse change my launch configuration of tomcat (VM args) each time even if aster clicking apply and saving server setting ?
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[16:31:54] <schrmanu> hi guys if have a problem using eclipse on an intel core duo 64 bit processor with suse 10.2. the error which occurs when i start eclipse is http://rafb.net/p/mldZBZ28.html . anyone an idea?
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[16:34:50] <rcjsuen> schrmanu: Where did you download Eclipse?
[16:37:10] <schrmanu> via yast
[16:37:32] <rcjsuen> You should ask the SuSE guys then, since we don't know how they packaged Eclipse.
[16:37:37] <rcjsuen> schrmanu: Or get Eclipse from eclipse.org.
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[16:38:30] <schrmanu> hum, i use an office computer so it would be better to use the package manager
[16:38:52] <rcjsuen> Well, it's quite straightforward, you don't need to compile anything.
[16:39:12] <schrmanu> ok, so i just download eclipse precompiled for suse?
[16:39:19] <rcjsuen> Pretty much
[16:39:27] <rcjsuen> Use tar to extract
[16:39:28] <rcjsuen> ./eclipse
[16:39:29] <rcjsuen> the end
[16:39:41] <schrmanu> hm okay would be an option, too
[16:39:55] <schrmanu> :)
[16:39:58] <kirkt> rcjsuen: where can i go to look at eclipse projects to participate in?
[16:40:11] <rcjsuen> kirkt: Not sure what yo umean.
[16:40:19] <rcjsuen> kirkt: oyu could search for bugs with 'helpwanted' keyword
[16:40:21] <rcjsuen> or 'bugday'
[16:40:40] <rcjsuen> bug day is probably what you're thinking of
[16:42:04] <kirkt> well, this student strike is now in its 90'th day. since i can't apply for a job, i want to start doing things, and my hobby projects are kinda hobbi-sh, in terms that i am the one who need to come up with things to do, and thats hard.
[16:42:53] <kirkt> so i prefer joining some open source project. im fluent in many technologies, however, i prefer eclipse
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[16:43:22] <rcjsuen> Well, bugzilla queries like the ones I suggested above should do.
[16:44:11] <rcjsuen> then if you're interested could try to solve the problem and apply the patch
[16:44:18] <rcjsuen> or ask questions on the bug to get a better understanding etc
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[16:46:26] <kirkt> ok
[16:48:22] <kirkt> rcjsuen: so in order to participate in bug fixing i'd have to be really proficient with the tool i'm contributing to
[16:49:54] <rcjsuen> Depends what you mean by "really proficient".
[16:50:46] <kirkt> know it as well as the person who wrote it ?
[16:50:47] <rcjsuen> some bugs are really minor and is quite easily fix-able
[16:51:22] <rcjsuen> the hard part is finding where to start i guess
[16:51:32] <rcjsuen> it is not obvious since eclipse has so many classes
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[16:53:55] <kirkt> so pde-build-inbox at eclipse dot org means unassigned ?
[16:54:59] <rcjsuen> well, just because a bug is assigned doesn't really mean it's going to be tackled either
[16:56:34] <kirkt> i actually dont know how to make a patch etc. any where i could learn ?
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[17:02:47] <rcjsuen> kirkt: ther'es info on the wiki i think
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[17:04:00] <kirkt> ok
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[17:05:41] <rcjsuen> basic idea is Team > Create Patch anyway
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[17:36:03] <MacGyverNL> If I've updated one eclipse instance, would I, in order to install the same eclipse version with the same patches and features applied, just copy the folder over to another PC?
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[17:38:06] <pschriner> MacGyverNL: that is a decent idea. You have to remember, though, that some settings etc are stored on a per-workspace instance - so you might want to export the preferences as well.
[17:38:52] <MacGyverNL> pschriner: Assume I haven't done anything but start eclipse for the first time, select a workspace and start updating.
[17:39:04] <MacGyverNL> Point is, I don't want to do redundant downloads.
[17:39:16] <MacGyverNL> Will that "just work" (tm)?
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[17:44:32] <pschriner> MacGyverNL: plugin / Eclipse updates are by default stored in the eclipse/plugins directory of the eclipse you started. So my answer would be: yes, that should work. You can normally copy Eclipse to another PC and use it just as well
[17:44:46] <MacGyverNL> Thanks.
[17:45:06] <MacGyverNL> Hey, is creating a portable Eclipse then as easy as copying it to a USB stick?
[17:45:12] <pschriner> jep
[17:45:21] <pschriner> but I wouldn't recommend that
[17:45:40] <pschriner> as Eclipse & it's workspaces can have a huge number of files
[17:46:19] <pschriner> I tend to zip everything first, and unpack it into some temporary (local) dir, and repack when i leave
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[17:47:35] <pschriner> & you have to avoid using absolute paths in your workspace - eg if you bind your Java projects to a specific JRE path, it will require a little work to get it to work on different PCs if paths can't match
[17:48:43] <pschriner> I tend to put the same Eclipse installation on all PC that I might work on - and just carry my workspaces around
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[18:43:17] <n_np> hey guys
[18:43:28] <n_np> what's the best way to use a testing server and ftp for upload to the live server with eclipse?
[18:43:34] <n_np> are there tools for that?
[18:43:36] <n_np> i'm using pdt
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[18:45:06] <rcjsuen> well, you could use TM to manage remote files I s'pose
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[18:55:44] <Sal> anyone here that uses zend PDT?
[18:57:59] <rcjsuen> Sal: Did you try the PDT newsgroups?
[18:58:23] <Sal> zend has no newsgroup
[18:58:31] <rcjsuen> Sal: The PDT newsgroup for Eclipse
[18:58:35] <Sal> and the package on eclipse aint the same thing
[18:58:48] <rcjsuen> Sal: Doesn't Zend have support?
[18:59:17] <Sal> no, not for that... its under the community directory and its only 1 page
[18:59:45] <Sal> or maybe their support is on eclipse web
[18:59:51] <Sal> let me check
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[19:01:35] <rcjsuen> Would be kind of weird if it was.
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[19:12:42] <feindbild> hi =)
[19:12:48] <feindbild> how can I edit locked content types?
[19:13:31] <feindbild> ... in the eclipse settings -> General -> Content Types
[19:14:34] <rcjsuen> Don't think it's possible through the UI.
[19:14:35] <rcjsuen> It's locked for a reason.
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[19:21:42] <n_np> what is TM?
[19:22:15] <cachaceiro> fellows, i was wondering how would i keep track of the bundle-version of the plug-ins that are part of my rcp standalone application. Is there an automatic way of increasing it everytime a change in the code is made? Or it has to be manually performed?
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[19:35:50] <Sal> hey forgot so ask an important thing here!!!!
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[19:36:15] <Sal> can eclipse be used in some way to edit a single file?
[19:36:26] <Sal> like a click-and-edit ?
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[19:37:42] <njbartlett_> cachaceiro: You could try the "qualifier" trick
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[19:44:33] <cachaceiro> njbarlett_ ; what trick?
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[20:08:16] <MacGyverNL> When upgrading Eclipse features, the old ones get disabled, but not uninstalled, correct?
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[20:16:16] <atahualpa> in subclipse, is there a way to change my login/pwd for my svn project directly trough eclipse?
[20:17:07] <kirkt> MacGyverNL yes
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[20:18:35] <n_np> is there a php testing server for eclipse?
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[20:22:33] <dominikg> atahualpa, you can change it in the repositories preferences. check the svn repositories perspective.
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[20:25:42] <pjkix> atahualpa: you might want to try subversive instead of subclipse it seems to have more support these days
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[20:32:53] <MacGyverNL> Should I install both Eclipse RCP patches, or are they mutually exclusive?
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[20:36:36] <kirkt> im getting java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/log4j/Logger in the exported plugin
[20:36:46] <kirkt> eventhough the log4j lib is in the classpath etc
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[20:38:13] <nitind> kirkt: In the Build Path, or listed in the manifest (or the manifest of a plug-in that's required)?
[20:38:51] <kirkt> ive put it everywhere i could
[20:39:12] <kirkt> ok it might work now.. checking..
[20:39:46] <kirkt> nope
[20:40:24] <kirkt> i've sorted out the log4j thing, but now under 3.2 it works partially (finds the activator) and 3.3 doesnt even find activator
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[20:44:44] <kirkt> finally i can put this behind me
[20:45:18] <kirkt> seems it was a combination of alot of things. one of them is an old, same, plugin hiding there, the classpaths.
[20:46:56] <kirkt> laters all
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[21:00:32] <rcjsuen> ~tell n_np about tm
[21:00:33] <KOS-MOS> n_np: Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
[21:00:57] <rcjsuen> Sal: File > Open File..., you could edit it that way.
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[21:10:25] <Sal> rcjsuen, no way to do a "click-n-edit"?
[21:10:35] <rcjsuen> what is "click"
[21:10:37] <Sal> no plugin that could help on that?
[21:10:39] <rcjsuen> Click what
[21:10:40] <rcjsuen> Click where
[21:10:52] <Sal> click the file, the editor opens
[21:10:57] <rcjsuen> where are you clicking this file
[21:10:59] <rcjsuen> Windows Explorer?
[21:11:09] <Sal> rcjsuen, what o.s. are you using?
[21:11:15] <rcjsuen> Sal: I use Linux.
[21:11:24] <Sal> CP/M-86?
[21:11:27] <rcjsuen> But sure I've used Windows.
[21:11:32] <Sal> oh, almost the same than
[21:11:33] <Sal> :)
[21:11:34] <rcjsuen> No idea what CP/M is
[21:11:39] <nitind> Oooooooold.
[21:11:53] <Sal> thats why you don't know what click-no-go is
[21:11:55] <Sal> :)
[21:12:11] <rcjsuen> Sal: Sorry, the earliest OS I used was MS-DOS. I guess this CP/M-86 was before my time.
[21:12:19] <nitind> CP/M was command line, wasn't it?
[21:12:20] <Sal> nitind, yes, my first friend :)
[21:12:37] <Sal> it was dos granpa
[21:12:44] <nitind> So, no click.
[21:12:46] <rcjsuen> So anyway, I'm guessing you mean clicking in Windows Explorer / Nautilus / Konqueror / whatever, right?
[21:12:54] <Sal> yes
[21:13:01] <rcjsuen> There might be a plug-in.
[21:13:03] <rcjsuen> No support OOTB.
[21:13:05] <Sal> anywhere,m even on desktop
[21:13:35] <Sal> OOTB? object oriented trash bin ?
[21:14:03] <rcjsuen> Out-Of-The-Box
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[21:14:58] <Sal> :)
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[21:36:56] <adva> hi all!
[21:37:04] <adva> i hava a question for everybodyes: i need a class/method , that starting for a "dirty" text file, cleans it, removing(replacing) all the NON-utf-8 chars . I haven't found nothing online... could you help me?
[21:39:03] <rcjsuen> that sounds pretty inefficient
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[21:39:29] <nitind> And a bit strange.  Why would you want to just up and delete characters instead of using a different encoding?
[21:39:33] <bewest> is libswt bundled with eclipse downloads?
[21:40:01] <adva> becouse i have to read a text file ( xml, rss) that is written by someone else
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[21:40:21] <adva> and there i usually found charachters non utf, and i've got an exception and fatal errors
[21:40:31] <nitind> Then read it in using a different encoding.
[21:40:35] <adva> so I have to clean
[21:40:40] <rcjsuen> bewest: yes, the swt library comes with "99%" of the eclipse downloads
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[21:41:16] <adva> nitind:  i'm using SaxParse
[21:41:29] <adva> do you think is it possible to declare which encoding to use?
[21:41:34] <ulfdoz> if I've defined filter, how are they applied. I.e. what happens, if I have one includeing foo* and anotherone excluding *. What's the correct order to get foo* profiled?
[21:42:17] <ulfdoz> some additional context: when using tptp.
[21:42:22] <rcjsuen> nitind: afk, you hold the fort ;p
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[21:43:03] <nitind> adva: If you mean the SaxParser class, it will take the raw InputStreams directly.
[21:43:14] <adva> exactly
[21:43:17] <adva> so how can i do?
[21:43:24] <nitind> adva: I don't understand the question.
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[21:43:53] <adva> how can i check and repair an InputStream from non UTF chars?
[21:43:54] <bewest> is gcj required for libswt?
[21:44:07] <ulfdoz> bewest: no
[21:44:20] <bewest> I'm having problems starting eclipse on centos 5 x86_64:
[21:44:43] <bewest> java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: no swt-gtk-3347 or swt-gtk in swt.library.path, java.library.path or the jar file
[21:44:58] <bewest> jvm crashes with code 13
[21:45:06] <nitind> adva: UTF is just one way to represent the characters in that stream.  Does it actually specify UTF-8 and not something close like iso8859-1?
[21:45:33] <nitind> bewest: Are you using the x86-gtk64 download?
[21:45:39] <bewest> no, I don't think I am
[21:45:48] <bewest> think I'm using 32 bit for some reason
[21:45:58] <nitind> bewest: Is it also a 32-bit JRE?
[21:45:58] <ulfdoz> bewest: Simply set java.library.path to the directory containing libswt-gtk, when starting the jvm.
[21:46:08] <bewest> I believe 64 bit jre
[21:46:19] <bewest> java -version reports 64 bit
[21:46:27] <bewest> 1.6, actually
[21:46:37] <nitind> bewest: You have to match them.  Are you using a version of Eclipse provided by your distribution?>
[21:46:53] <bewest> no, if I ask yum to do it, it tries to install gcj and whatnot
[21:46:54] <adva> nitind:  please tell me how to paste an exception stacktrace
[21:47:05] <nitind> KOS-MOS: tell adva about pastebin
[21:47:12] <nitind> *sigh*
[21:47:14] <nitind> ~pastebin
[21:47:15] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
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[21:47:59] <adva> thankx
[21:48:02] <adva> so : http://pastebin.ca/857662
[21:48:07] <bewest> if I ask yum to install libswt, it installs gcj
[21:48:15] <nitind> bewest: Then go download the gtk64 build.  They have to match.
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[21:48:30] <bewest> ok. just to be clear, you are talking about the library, correct?
[21:48:34] <bewest> erm
[21:48:37] <bewest> the C library
[21:48:39] <adva> this is the exception ... Sometimes it becomes a Fatal Error , and the plugin start to work badly!
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[21:50:18] <nitind> adva: Is the xml file in question saying it's UTF-8?  If so, then whomever/whatever made it did it wrong.  If it says it's not UTF-8, the it.actionscript.flex.core.* classes may need bugs reported against them.
[21:50:28] <bewest> ulfdoz: where do I manipulate java.library.path ?  perhaps I could get yum to install it with gcj?
[21:50:32] <nitind> bewest: Yes.  That or the whole SDK, whichever one you need.
[21:50:49] <bewest> nitind: thanks
[21:52:46] <nitind> bewest: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.3.1.1-200710231652/download.php?dropFile=swt-3.3.1.1-gtk-linux-x86_64.zip, the .so file is in a .jar file in the zip.
[21:56:57] <rcjsuen> nitind: sorry ;p
[21:57:19] <rcjsuen> nitind: file an rfe if you want
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[21:58:10] <m4lu8> I'm having an issue Importing Existing Project into Workspace ... i've got a dir mounted over nfs; inside there is a .project file. I choose this NFS mounted dir as my root dir, and mysteriously, no projects show up in my import wizard. Any clues?
[21:58:49] <nitind> rcjsuen: A wha?
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[21:59:28] <rcjsuen> nitind: An RFE > <nitind> KOS-MOS: tell adva about pastebin
[21:59:45] <nitind> rcjsuen: Ahhh
[22:00:36] <rcjsuen> Case insensitivty and ~123 is in demand too, of course.
[22:00:45] <rcjsuen> must...get...to them..at some point
[22:02:24] <m4lu8> bloody ODD. i mv'd the mountpoint from my-project to myproject, and equally mysterious, voila. the project shows up. ... ugh.
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[22:10:20] <ulfdoz> bewest: You can set system properties when starting the vm using -D<property_name>=<value> as argument to the java binary.
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[22:11:43] <d_a_carver> ~bug215567
[22:11:45] <KOS-MOS> See bug 215567 - Move JDT and PDE to Tools Project - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215567
[22:11:56] <d_a_carver> Let's see if that gets any discussion. :)
[22:12:27] <d_a_carver> wasn't sure the correct place to put it though.
[22:13:09] <fleXible> hello guys, I have a problem to write a simple C/C++ application in Eclipse, I'm a newbee, but when I want to compile (run) I see a dialogbox wherin I need to type filter text, what the hack is that?
[22:13:21] <fleXible> I can't even compile
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[22:14:10] <d_a_carver> fleXible: have you viewd the faq: http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/User/FAQ
[22:14:28] <fleXible> btw, I'm from the windows environment and use VC++ 6.0 all the time, but now I want to use Eclipse in Linux so I'm a bit new to Eclipse
[22:14:51] <fleXible> no carver, but I'll do that right now
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[22:20:57] <Erik1> syntax coloring for some file types is rather 'basic", like JavaScript. Where are the files hat define syntax coloring ? can they be changed by me  ? I'd like to add some color...
[22:21:21] <rcjsuen> Erik1: Don't think so, at least, most editors don't have a "file" anyway.
[22:21:38] <d_a_carver> no but you should be able to define the coloring in preferences
[22:22:04] <Erik1> d_a_carver: yes, but only a few settings....basic, as I said...
[22:22:37] <Erik1> and the possibilities are different from file type to file type...
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[22:23:16] <d_a_carver> well, I think the new JavaScript editor in WTP 3.0M4 allows more configuration options.
[22:24:01] <d_a_carver> You could also look at eclipseplugins...I think there is an editor that allows for specifying various syntax colors.
[22:24:55] <dominikg> there are at least 2, one is also available thru easyeclipse (forgot its name) the other one is eclipsecolorer
[22:26:25] <nitind> Erik1: WTP 3.0 will have more comprehensive settings for JavaScript files.
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[22:27:27] <bewest> nitind: thanks for the link
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[22:28:21] <Brownoxford> Is it possible to group projects under "folders" in the Project Explorer view?
[22:29:05] <Erik1> nitind: quickly looked at wtp, but I do not see any 'PHP' there... is is Java-only ? I don't do Java, only PHP...
[22:30:22] <bewest> nitind: actually, http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.3.1.1-200710231652/download.php?dropFile=swt-3.3.1.1-gtk-linux-x86_64.zip doesn't work... some zip error
[22:30:53] <nitind> bewest: It worked for me.  Perhaps a different mirror?
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[22:32:35] <nitind> Erik1: PHP is a separate project at http://eclipse.org/pdt/.
[22:33:23] <d_a_carver> PDT leverages the WST components that are part of WTP.
[22:33:53] <Erik1> nitind: yes, but my projects are mixed: PHP (so + HTML) JavaScript, mysql....
[22:34:17] <Erik1> ant building too
[22:34:29] <nitind> Erik1: So combine all of that into one installation.
[22:35:07] <Erik1> nitind: that is whay I want and try to do, but got stuck with bad JS syntax coloring...
[22:36:07] <Erik1> just installed JSEclipse from Adobe... but not too great either, it seems
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[22:36:19] <d_a_carver> Erik1: WST 3.0 should handle taht as I believe the the JSDT should handle that.
[22:36:47] <d_a_carver> but again, that is for 3.4 and I don't know if PDT supports Eclipse 3.4
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[22:38:09] <ekuleshov> zx: you see what happens when you ask too much... :-/
[22:38:58] <Erik1> d_a_carver: I daren't switch to 3.4 yet... I want my PDT to stay intact.
[22:39:05] <nitind> d_a_carver: I forget, are you a committer on Incubator?
[22:40:38] * nitind finds the answer himself
[22:41:19] <fleXible> Is there a link to use Eclipse with GCC and G++?? Cause I don't want to use CDT
[22:41:45] <nitind> fleXible: CDT uses gcc and g++.  It doesn't compile anything on its own.
[22:41:48] <rcjsuen> Brownoxford: Under "folders"? say what now
[22:42:29] <Brownoxford> rcjsuen, I'd like to be able to group all of my related projects together in the tree view
[22:42:39] <fleXible> well accoording to a n article, CDT is partly GNU but there is also third party in it
[22:42:40] <d_a_carver> nitind: Yeah, I'm basically pm/pain the butt for the xslt incubating project. :)
[22:43:01] <Brownoxford> rcjsuen, so instead of only having projects as the top level, you could also have custom groups.
[22:43:08] <ChrisRecoskie> fleXible:  there is no GNU code in CDT, I'm not sure what you mean
[22:43:11] <nitind> d_a_carver: I wouldn't say that.
[22:43:30] <rcjsuen> Brownoxford: You want Working Sets then I guess maybe.
[22:43:36] <d_a_carver> nitind: yeah...just kidding <funny clown nose..honk honl>
[22:43:46] <fleXible> anyway, how can I check if I have CDT installed, because I followed the instructions to build a simple hello world application but at the end I get an error saying there is no binary
[22:43:50] <rcjsuen> fleXible: They make use of GNU tools, like how a random bash script can call 'gcc' five billion times.
[22:43:58] <ChrisRecoskie> fleXible:  if you want to use GCC/G++ with Eclipse then CDT is pretty much your only option unless you want to roll your own C/C++ development plugins
[22:44:01] <rcjsuen> fleXible: Help > About Eclipse SDK > Plug-in Details
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[22:44:15] <rcjsuen> ChrisRecoskie: Reinventing the wheel is open source's specialty.
[22:44:56] <ChrisRecoskie> rcjsuen: yeah but I'm not going to handhold someone through that :-p
[22:45:13] <fleXible> no no, programming in C/C++ is enough for me. But I get an error saying htere is no binary? I don't get it, it should compile to get a binary, hmmm
[22:46:04] <ChrisRecoskie> fleXible: are there no other errors?  When you created the project, did you tell it to generate a makefile for you or use an existing one?
[22:46:44] <fleXible> well, I just followed the instruction accoording to the eclipse FAQ of CDT
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[22:47:04] <fleXible> but you might gave me a hint where to look
[22:48:22] <ChrisRecoskie> well if there were errors they would be output to the console
[22:48:46] <relat> Is there any way I can run any version of the eclipse C++ IDE on linux with JVM <1.5?
[22:48:59] <fleXible> well, building was ok, but I didn't use buil all, just build the C-file I guess
[22:49:15] <ChrisRecoskie> relat:  version 4.0 and lower works on Java 1.4.2
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[22:49:27] <rcjsuen> ChrisRecoskie: You guys made the jump for five-oh?
[22:49:40] <relat> ChrisRecoskie: thanks how can I locate that version?
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[22:50:12] <ChrisRecoskie> rcjsuen:  yep, it's been overdue
[22:50:31] <rcjsuen> relat: http://www.eclipse.org/epp/download.php try these
[22:50:34] <ChrisRecoskie> relat:  the latest build available on the website is 4.0.2 so just grab that
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[22:52:11] <d_a_carver> fleXible: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-eclipse-stlcdt/
[22:52:58] <ChrisRecoskie> rcjsuen:  we were sick of making non-type-safe API... generics are so much better
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[22:53:17] <nitind> non-type-safe?
[22:53:18] <robot_jesus> yes they are
[22:53:37] <rcjsuen> I'm more die-hard backwards-compatible myself.
[22:54:13] <ChrisRecoskie> nitind:  yeah, like returning unparameterized lists and sets that only say they contain Object
[22:54:26] <nitind> I just stick to arrays.
[22:54:36] <fleXible> make says: no make -all rule
[22:55:05] <rcjsuen> nitind: Do you implement your own dynamic arrays?
[22:55:09] <ChrisRecoskie> arrays are a PITA
[22:55:14] <d_a_carver> ya know...the only 1.5 feature I found useful is for-each
[22:55:29] <nitind> rcjsuen: For most API methods, I haven't needed them.
[22:55:38] <rcjsuen> nitind: Ah.
[22:55:43] <relat> ChrisRecoskie: can you direct me to the actual download link please? The europa-fall2 version is all I can locate
[22:55:43] <rcjsuen> I like arrays too.
[22:55:54] <rcjsuen> foreach is kinda cool
[22:56:01] <ChrisRecoskie> relat: one sec
[22:56:03] <rcjsuen> But there were several instances where I need the 'i' counter.
[22:56:08] <rcjsuen> So I ended up...not using it.
[22:56:28] <d_a_carver> too much C# type stuff in Java 1.5 and 1.6 for my tastes...I prefer me telling it what to do instead of leaving it up to the compiler.
[22:57:06] <d_a_carver> Oh...and I guess I do like the @override on a method..at least I know it over rode a parent that way.
[22:57:07] <fleXible> foreach is cool yes, but it is only useful when using linked lists
[22:57:34] <ChrisRecoskie> relat: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/tools/cdt/releases/europa/dist/cdt-master-4.0.2.zip
[22:57:40] <rcjsuen> I'd used linked lists more if I didn't use toArray() so often.
[22:57:47] <fleXible> I agree with you carver, C# is too high level language
[22:57:53] <relat> thanks
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[22:58:16] <d_a_carver> I liked it better when there wasn't soo much generic stuff in it.
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[22:59:00] <fleXible> but it makes programming for beginners easier with C#. C++ is a bit more complex and overrun prone
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[23:00:36] <fleXible> when they allocate memory, or for example a linked lists with only dynamic mem variables in it, than it is easy to have mem leaks
[23:00:58] <robot_jesus> generics are great, there is no debate!
[23:01:10] <MacGyverNL> Is it usual for updates to break half your plugins?
[23:01:20] <fleXible> generics, is like templates
[23:01:39] <MacGyverNL> (Not half, figure of speech, but it does disable them without notification because references are suddenly missing.)
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[23:03:24] <robot_jesus> generics are not templates though, generics do nothing at all with code generation, its just a constraint put on at compile time to strengethen your code
[23:03:43] <nitind> Compiler checks are good.
[23:03:50] <robot_jesus> yep!
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[23:04:40] <rcjsuen> oh now we're having that erasure argument huh
[23:04:48] <nitind> erasure?
[23:05:09] <nitind> MacGyverNL: Only if that half wasn't written or packaged properly.
[23:05:39] <rcjsuen> nitind: Java generics has erasure no?
[23:06:11] <MacGyverNL> nitind: Seems like one update is dependent on an out-dated version of something else.
[23:06:17] <MacGyverNL> Does this happen often?
[23:06:18] <robot_jesus> yes, for binary compatibilty with < 1.5
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[23:08:27] <fleXible> what is the difference between autotool(gnu) and executable(gnu)??
[23:08:43] <fleXible> which one should I use to compile
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[23:10:12] <robot_jesus> never heard of either of those
[23:10:19] <robot_jesus> unless you mean autoconf tools :S
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[23:15:10] <d_a_carver> redhat has a plugin for CDT for working with autotool
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[23:15:51] <d_a_carver> http://sourceware.org/eclipse/autotools/
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[23:24:41] <robot_jesus> id go with auto tools
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[23:31:55] <Oggu> How can i edit many lines at the same time?
[23:32:05] <Oggu> Now i wanna remove an tab indent
[23:32:25] <rcjsuen> highlight them, shift+tab?
[23:32:40] <Oggu> thanks
[23:32:57] <Oggu> can a add same text in several places some way?
[23:37:42] <rcjsuen> How would that work?
[23:40:42] <Oggu> dont know, you can do so in some other editors
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[23:42:39] <fleXible> Anyway, thank you for your help so far. But unfortunately I haven't managed to compile a simple C/C++ source in Eclipse. With Vim I can write a source and compile using gcc -o
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[23:44:41] <fleXible> I want to program in Linux so bad, especially network applications, but.....need to spend to much time in figuring out how things need to configure just to get it run only. So frustrating......
[23:45:24] <fleXible> But now I gotta sleep, so chill out guys!
[23:45:43] <fleXible>  c u next time with positive news :)
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[23:50:21] <d_a_carver> Darn fleXible left and I just finally found the document he needed: http://pdftown.com/Setting-up-Eclipse-CDT-on-Windows-Linux-Unix-Mac-OS-X.html
[23:57:51] <ulfdoz> What do I have to add to the classpath, if I want an app to start the JPIAgent for profiling?
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