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[00:00:46] <rcjsuen> JDT has a step filter, if that's what you mean.
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[00:02:01] <InsomniaCity> sounds about right
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[00:06:44] <unlord> ahh, okay I figured it out
[00:06:51] <unlord> can't have two roots
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[00:31:36] <asimismo> I'm coding a wizard page that contains a SourceViewer. I'd like a TAB pressed within the SourceViewer to setFocus on the Next button at the bottom of the wizard page. Is there an easy way to do this or do I have to listen to keystrokes?
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[00:40:38] <Jimbob2k> ok, I really do need to add a new executable type to eclipse, do I need to modify the Elf Parser? And any pointers on where this lives? (I can't find a decent way to search through the jars in plugins)
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[00:42:01] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: You mean to right-click > Run As > C/C++ Application?
[00:42:09] <Jimbob2k> yeah.
[00:42:30] <Jimbob2k> or right click, import, c/c++ executable
[00:42:34] <rcjsuen> not exactly an impossible task
[00:42:42] <rcjsuen> standard Eclipse plug-in mechanism will do it
[00:42:51] <Jimbob2k> I guess I need to figure out where the binary parser code is..
[00:43:02] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: Doesn't it just check for .exe extension?
[00:43:13] <nitind> Not on that platform.
[00:43:25] <rcjsuen> I s'pose so
[00:43:29] <rcjsuen> since there aren't file extensions
[00:43:39] <rcjsuen> look at the org.eclipse.debug.ui.launchShortcuts ep
[00:43:52] <rcjsuen> and see how the contextualLaunch is setup
[00:44:00] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: yeah, I need to modify it slightly too.
[00:44:06] <rcjsuen> nitind: Where were you last week?
[00:44:54] <rcjsuen> Let us know if you need help, I've used the extension point before.
[00:45:00] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: I need it to look for .exe
[00:45:14] <Jimbob2k> sorry, I mean prx.
[00:45:27] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: http://emonic.cvs.sourceforge.net/emonic/org.emonic.debug.core/ http://emonic.cvs.sourceforge.net/emonic/org.emonic.debug.ui/ are both relatively small projects, you should be able to pick up on how to code it up
[00:46:52] <nitind> rcjsuen: Vacationing, and forcing myself to neither read my work email nor think about work by being in these channels.
[00:46:53] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: thanks very much, will get digging... last time I tried to modify a plugin I couldn't get it to rebuild the .jar file, but I'll hopefully use this as a reference.
[00:47:15] <rcjsuen> nitind: Fair enough.
[00:47:39] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: You should be able to make a completely new plug-in and contribute functionality that way.
[00:47:44] <rcjsuen> Sure you'll probably use some internal classes.
[00:47:45] <rcjsuen> but anyway
[00:48:04] <rcjsuen> or don't make a new one and modify CDT's and contribute it back via bugzilla as a patch! :D
[00:48:34] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen : one thing, I need it to link in with the cdt as I want to use gdb on the files.
[00:48:52] <Jimbob2k> would that necessitate writing a binary parser?
[00:49:40] <rcjsuen> I dunno what you're doing, but you could probably just use their launch delegate to launch the file that you're right-clicking on
[00:49:45] <rcjsuen> then everytthing should automagically work
[00:50:41] <nitind> There's already a binary parser of sorts, org.eclipse.core.runtime.content.BinarySignatureDescriber
[00:51:55] <Jimbob2k> If I did want to patch the fixes into the Elf Parser first, I guess I'd need a full-source version of eclipse, where would I be best off getting that? Is there a svn repo or something I can checkout?
[00:52:08] <rcjsuen> no, you don't need "full source"
[00:52:10] <rcjsuen> you'd just need that one plug-in
[00:52:17] <rcjsuen> and yes, we have a CVS repository
[00:52:21] <rcjsuen> (or Subversion)
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[00:53:18] <Jimbob2k> which?  org.eclipse.core.runtime.content.BinarySignatureDescriber or one of the two you pointed out earlier?
[00:53:43] <rcjsuen> what I pointed out is a different plug-in I work on that was intended to help you understand what's involved in writing a new plug-in
[00:53:54] <rcjsuen> for contributing back to CDT, you'd need to checkout CDT's code
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[00:54:56] <Midtronic> howdy... I'm getting some errors because "org.eclipse.core.runtime.Plugin" can't be found.  Any ideas what might be up?
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[00:55:00] <rcjsuen> ~tell Midtronic about logs
[00:55:01] <KOS-MOS> Midtronic: Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F
[00:55:09] <rcjsuen> *evil grin* I already have an idea.
[00:56:38] * Midtronic sees a ClassNotFoundException being thrown... keeps looking
[00:56:54] <rcjsuen> Midtronic: Just pastebin the logs.
[00:56:59] <rcjsuen> Alternatively, rename your .log file.
[00:57:06] <rcjsuen> Start Eclipse (or do whatever you did to get the error).
[00:57:11] <rcjsuen> Pastebin that new/clean log file.
[00:57:27] <Midtronic> ~pastebin
[00:57:28] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
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[00:58:46] <er4z0r> I have a Bundle with declarative services which has a service reference specified. The setter methods for the service are never called but still the component is activated
[00:58:56] <er4z0r> I don't get it
[00:59:13] <Midtronic> hrm.  No more error
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[00:59:51] <Midtronic> ohh, I know what it was.  I used a launcher, which doesn't specify the correct java version.. I have it aliased in bash to do that the right way.  I just forgot to run from bash
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[01:00:27] <rcjsuen> Midtronic: Did you get Eclipse from your distro's package management system?
[01:00:37] <Midtronic> rcjsuen: yes
[01:00:52] <Midtronic> but I also have a few versions of Java floating around so I can do 32-bit stuff on my 64-bit box
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[01:01:56] <rcjsuen> Midtronic: I'd recommend you get Eclipse from eclipse.org instead personally.
[01:02:21] <Midtronic> rcjsuen: why's that?
[01:02:55] <rcjsuen> Midtronic: Because people come in here with problems pretty much every day.
[01:03:37] <Midtronic> hehe, but I very well might have had more problems if I did it by hand ;-)  I see what you're saying though
[01:04:00] <rcjsuen> Midtronic: Doing it by hand consists of extracting the tarball, and then typing ./eclipse.
[01:04:45] <Midtronic> rcjsuen: I would have had to go through all the java versioning issues I was having anyway, though
[01:04:46] <rcjsuen> Admittedly when I started using Linux I didn't know how to extract files on the command line or know that to run an executable in the same directory required a './', but these concepts were quickly picked up by yours truly and I now no longer have any problems with said process.
[01:04:56] <rcjsuen> java versioning issues?
[01:05:21] <Midtronic> eclipse was running using the wrong java binary for a while and it was giving me a host of problems until I figured it out
[01:06:06] <rcjsuen> Midtronic: Yes, that is quite simple.
[01:06:14] <rcjsuen> ./eclipse -vm /opt/sun-jdk-1.6.0.02/bin/java
[01:06:17] <rcjsuen> Problem solved.
[01:06:36] <rcjsuen> Midtronic: The process you had to go through was probably because of your distro's way of packaging Eclipse.
[01:07:10] <Midtronic> rcjsuen: nah, it was my install of a 32-bit non-sun binary so I could watch youtube X)
[01:08:15] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: I want to start from a known stable base rather than latest in the repo, would e.g. http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.3.1.1-200710231652/eclipse-SDK-3.3.1.1-win32.zip have all the source for the CDT included with it?
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[01:08:56] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: No, because the Eclipse SDK does not include the CDT (nor does it have the CDT sources, of course).
[01:09:11] <Jimbob2k> aah.
[01:09:22] <rcjsuen> ~tell Jimbob2k about compare
[01:09:22] <KOS-MOS> Jimbob2k: Wondering what the difference between all those Eclipse packages are? See http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php
[01:09:55] <rcjsuen> By the awesomeness of this chart, you can see that, none of those packages, will actually deliver CDT's source code with it.
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[01:10:42] <Jimbob2k> yeah lol!
[01:10:53] <Jimbob2k> so, svn it is.
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[01:13:28] <Jimbob2k> which branch is the best to get?
[01:13:52] <Jimbob2k> svn co svn://dev.eclipse.org/svnroot/technology/ seems to be massive.
[01:14:14] <rcjsuen> I think CDT is in CVS.
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[01:21:50] <Jimbob2k> I can't for the life of me find source code for CDT, any help would be appreciated.
[01:24:13] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: enjoy http://dev.eclipse.org/viewcvs/index.cgi/?root=Tools_Project
[01:24:19] <SKuhn> hi, I found a bug in eclipse and solved it. How do I replace the wrong plugin with my own one?
[01:24:28] <SKuhn> or with the fixed version
[01:24:35] <rcjsuen> SKuhn: Did you file a bug to bugzilla?
[01:24:48] <SKuhn> sure, https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=215282
[01:25:22] <rcjsuen> SKuhn: Ask yourself "How would I build / export my plug-in?"
[01:26:39] <SKuhn> rcjsuen: jar export with default options?
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[01:27:03] <rcjsuen> File > Export > Plug-in, defaults should be good I s'pose
[01:27:08] <rcjsuen> Although I'd select package as individual jar myself
[01:27:12] <rcjsuen> or maybe not, it depends on the plug-in
[01:27:15] <rcjsuen> some plug-ins aren't as jars
[01:29:30] <SKuhn> rcjsuen: I've downloaded gmf with sources
[01:29:57] <rcjsuen> I would imagine, if you fixed the bug. :)
[01:29:58] <SKuhn> so I have both, once as jar, and once in the src folder of gmf.sdk.src
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[01:30:27] <rcjsuen> your suggested fix, it's better to create a patch instead of typing the stuff
[01:30:42] <SKuhn> how do I do that?
[01:31:02] <rcjsuen> well, if you just copy/paste the jar in wherever you installed gmf, removed the old one, restart, should be okay
[01:31:20] <SKuhn> I mean creating a fix :)
[01:31:45] <rcjsuen> Well, I was referring to your earlier statement about having a jar.
[01:32:37] <rcjsuen> http://www.eclipsepowered.com/eclipse/forums/t99339.html
[01:32:48] <njbartlett_> zx or zx|work: ping
[01:32:50] <SKuhn> sry, spend my hole day for turning a boolean on ;). I mean how2 create a patch
[01:33:28] <rcjsuen> The link will explai nit.
[01:33:44] <rcjsuen> but assuming you did things right, simply right-click on the project > Team > Create Patch should do
[01:33:48] <rcjsuen> if not, well, you should read that link
[01:33:57] <njbartlett_> I've got a problem launching Equinox using the OSGi launch configuration. Even with -Declipse.ignoreApp=true and -Dosgi.noShutdown=true, the damn thing shuts down immediately after starting the osgi console
[01:34:32] <rcjsuen> "Because the PDE team loves suspense, we will have a mystery guest available to answer your questions in the chat:"
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[01:34:43] <rcjsuen> mystery guest, like Wassim, I presume
[01:34:51] <SKuhn> rcjsuen: I've imported the sources as import->plugin,fragments. So it's not directly from CVS
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[01:37:25] <rcjsuen> Well, as you can imagine, you can't create a proper patch if you don't get it from CVS.
[01:37:37] <rcjsuen> The GMF team knows what to do anyway though I presume since it's a simple fix.
[01:40:59] <SKuhn> ok, I'll get it from CVS. Want to do this once by myself
[01:41:00] <SKuhn> :)
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[01:49:08] <njbartlett_> spathi: Yay, a Star Control fan!
[01:49:19] <njbartlett_> (I presume...)
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[01:58:47] <andreus> hello. i'm having an issue. i've created a dynamic web project, created java class for servlet purpose. when i try to import something or complete any code with ctrl+space it says that there are no possible proposals for completion
[01:59:03] <andreus> any ideas?
[01:59:13] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: I managed to download the source code I need for cdt.
[01:59:56] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: but it won't build as it says Unsatisfied version constraint: 'org.eclipse.ltk.core.refactoring: 3.4.0'
[02:00:16] <Drache> I recently downloaded the Eclipse PDT for windows. After unzipping it, when I try to load it, I just get the splash screen, and then nothing. Anyone have any suggestions?
[02:00:39] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: then you need that plug-in, at version 3.4.0
[02:00:39] <Jimbob2k> do you know where I'd get my hands on that? Or even, failing that, a cvs or svn link for the whole of eclipse and cdt?
[02:00:50] <rcjsuen> when working with CVS code it's better to get an integration or nightly build
[02:01:16] <Jimbob2k> integration build? what's that?
[02:02:01] <andreus> guess there're more interesting questions to answer. thanks anyway
[02:03:15] <rcjsuen> andreus: if no one answers it usually means "we don't know the answer", three minutes also isn't a very long time, I'd suggest you try on wtp's newsgroups
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[02:03:23] <rcjsuen> andreus: nitind might be able to help you if he's around.
[02:03:27] <njbartlett_> andreus: Open Window -> Preferences
[02:03:29] <rcjsuen> ~tell Drache about logs
[02:03:30] <KOS-MOS> Drache: Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F
[02:03:50] <njbartlett_> andreus: Then navigate to Java -> Editor -> Content Assist -> Advanced
[02:04:20] <njbartlett_> andreus: Make sure all the items in the top list are checked. Then try again
[02:04:30] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/
[02:04:41] <rcjsuen> njbartlett_: true, forgot jee edition includes mylyn
[02:06:10] <andreus> njbartlett_: thank you very much, it worked. it is only my first month of learning java and only first day exploring eclipse, overall i like it. thanks again
[02:06:40] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: thank you very much.
[02:06:55] <njbartlett_> andreus: You're welcome.
[02:07:09] <njbartlett_> rcjsuen: Any idea why those entries get unchecked in the first place?
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[02:08:59] <rcjsuen> njbartlett_: no, i've seen bugs open, supposedly fixed, maybe the 3.3.2 builds will rid this problem for good, dunno
[02:09:47] <rcjsuen> afk
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[02:10:30] <Drache> rcjsuen, doesn't appear to be anything in the log file. The eclipsec.exe file seemed to be spitting something out when I tried it in the command prompt. Here's the error, I don't know if it's related or not...
[02:10:36] <Drache> http://pastebin.com/d45d74e24
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[02:34:19] <SKuhn> how can I display the hierachy of Metaclasses in EMF Models?
[02:34:52] <paulweb515_> SKuhn: is it not a hierarchy you can see with F4 (of java classes)?
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[02:35:22] <SKuhn> yes, I would like to have the same for EMF Models
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[02:37:35] <paulweb515_> SKuhn: ah, OK
[02:38:38] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: I got the latest 3.4 Stream Integration Build, would you recommend that or 3.4 Stream Stable Build?
[02:40:23] <paulweb515_> Jimbob2k: the integration builds might be fine for what you are doing ... M4 just has the advantage that it's that little "extra" stable :-)
[02:40:47] <Jimbob2k> ok thanks.
[02:41:13] <Jimbob2k> I've rebuild CDT from the latest svn, how do I launch a new eclipse that will use the new build?
[02:41:57] <Jimbob2k> aah, the overview thing, s'ok.
[02:43:03] <Jimbob2k> hmm, java.lang.IllegalStateException: Unable to acquire application service. Ensure that the org.eclipse.core.runtime bundle is resolved and started (see config.ini).
[02:43:47] <paulweb515_> Jimbob2k: if that doesn't work, you should be able to go Run>Run Configurations
[02:44:06] <paulweb515_> Select Eclipse applications and click on the little "new" icon
[02:44:54] <paulweb515_> Jimbob2k: then you can make sure you're running the correct product on the Main tab
[02:45:52] <Jimbob2k> !MESSAGE One or more bundles are not resolved because the following root constraints are not resolved:
[02:45:57] <Jimbob2k> !MESSAGE Bundle update at plugins/org dot eclipse.cdt.core.win32_4.0.0.200711280800 was not resolved.
[02:46:17] <Jimbob2k> and it was all going so smoothly up til now.
[02:47:05] <paulweb515_> Jimbob2k: is that available in the SVN repository?
[02:48:19] <Jimbob2k> It came with the integration build I downloaded, I've got a C:\Program Files\eclipse\plugins\org.eclipse.cdt.core.win32_4.0.0.200711280800 folder.
[02:48:36] <Jimbob2k> http://pastebin.com/d7fa1cf18
[02:48:59] <Jimbob2k> ah, the top error is Reason: Another singleton version selected: org.eclipse.core.runtime_3.4.0.v20071207
[02:49:37] <Jimbob2k> so I guess I should've cleaned out my eclipse folder before dropping the integration build ontop eh?
[02:50:02] <paulweb515_> Jimbob2k: yes, they don't go well one over top the other
[02:50:23] <paulweb515_> Jimbob2k: they have to be kept in separate eclipse folders
[02:50:56] <Jimbob2k> ok, well I'll just ditch the old stuff, my workspaces are in a different location luckily.
[02:51:34] <Jimbob2k> maybe soon I can try some java, that should be fun.
[02:52:49] <paulweb515_> Jimbob2k: the java part of eclipse is fairly mature and well used ... I use it all the time :-)
[02:54:07] <Jimbob2k> I get a lot of warnings when compiling the cdt.
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[03:13:42] <Jimbob2k> hm, looks like my new cdt isn't running.
[03:15:02] <Jimbob2k> yet the plugin registry lists it?
[03:17:00] <zx|cafe> if you go to the dependencies view
[03:17:03] <zx|cafe> do you see an errors ?
[03:17:07] <zx|cafe> or red x's ?
[03:18:35] <Jimbob2k> no. some of the icons are purple though?
[03:18:43] <rcjsuen> Drache: nhaven't seen that before, sorry
[03:18:47] <rcjsuen> Drache: are you on 64-bit windows?
[03:18:59] <Jimbob2k> and cdt isn't listed in the dependencies view.
[03:19:02] <zx|cafe> purple is the color of love in plug-in development
[03:20:15] <Jimbob2k> what's blue?
[03:20:26] <Jimbob2k> well, blue and a dash of yellow.
[03:21:51] <Jimbob2k> so, I'm wondering if the problems are because I'm using 5.0.0.qualifier of cdt and 3.4.0.v* of the other ones?
[03:22:13] <Jimbob2k> what's the difference between the plugin registry and the plugins?
[03:22:47] <zx|cafe> The plug-in registry shows what is in the currently running runtime
[03:22:54] <zx|cafe> The plug-in dependencies view shows what is in your target platform + workspace
[03:23:01] <zx|cafe> Does that make sense :)?
[03:23:44] <Jimbob2k> yeah.
[03:24:12] <Jimbob2k> so cdt is running, but none of it's contributions to the IDE are appearing.
[03:24:24] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: Help > About Eclipse SDK > Plug-in Details
[03:24:25] <zx|cafe> I don't think CDT is running then
[03:24:44] <zx|cafe> If you go to the plug-in registry view
[03:24:48] <zx|cafe> are there little green arrows
[03:24:51] <zx|cafe> next to the CDT plug-ins?
[03:25:21] <zx|cafe> If not, they are probably having issues on startup
[03:26:15] <Jimbob2k> yeah, it's not in that list.
[03:27:09] <zx|cafe> if you start Eclipse with -console
[03:27:15] <zx|cafe> and type 'ss'
[03:27:20] <zx|cafe> do you see any CDT plug-ins there?
[03:27:21] <rcjsuen> ~tell Jimbob2k about consolelog
[03:27:21] <KOS-MOS> Jimbob2k: Writing an Eclipse-based application and can't find anything useful in your console and/or getting "Unhandled event loop exceptions"? Add -consoleLog as a 'Program Argument' to your launch configuration. See http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_get_an_unhandled_event_loop_exception_in_my_console._What_gives.3F
[03:27:30] <Jimbob2k> ok, will give that a go.
[03:27:53] <zx|cafe> you can read one of my best works to understand how to work with the OSGi console (http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-ecl-osgiconsole/)
[03:28:18] <zx|cafe> I only like that article because I was able to sneak in the DOOM picture at the end :)
[03:28:32] <Jimbob2k> when relaunching eclipse I get "unable to read workbench state." I guess this is because they're from older eclipse?
[03:29:43] <Jimbob2k> cdt doesn't appear in the list returned from ss.
[03:29:59] <zx|cafe> is CDT actually in the plug-ins directory in your Eclipse install?
[03:31:05] <Jimbob2k> no, so it shouldn't show up in my hacking-on-cdt workspace, but it should in my target one?
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[03:31:31] <Jimbob2k> should I export my cdt and put it in my eclipse folder?
[03:31:38] <zx|cafe> oh, so you actually have the CDT plug-ins checked out and in your workspace?
[03:32:02] <Jimbob2k> yeah.
[03:32:15] <zx|cafe> oh n/m, that makes sense :D
[03:32:27] <zx|cafe> so, when you launch a new Runtime workbench, you don't see CDT there?
[03:34:07] <Jimbob2k> I've only got org.eclipse.cdt.core actually..
[03:34:27] <zx|cafe> so when you launch your new runtime workbench
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[03:34:33] <zx|cafe> you should check out the plug-in registry view there
[03:34:39] <zx|cafe> and you should see org.eclipse.cdt.core :)
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[03:39:18] <Jimbob2k> maybe I should have got more than just the cdt.core eh?
[03:39:26] <Jimbob2k> it's all coming down now.
[03:39:31] <zx|cafe> if it has .core, it probably doesn't make contributions to the UI :)
[03:40:02] <Jimbob2k> despite the learning curve, it does seem very nicely engineered.
[03:40:13] <Jimbob2k> eclipse that is.
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[03:40:48] <zx|cafe> you whippersnappers have it easy now... I remember the pains of 2.X and 3.0 :)
[03:41:03] <zx|cafe> I learned a lot from looking at the source
[03:41:16] <blahdeblah> Hi.  What is the preferred way for automatically including a license block within all Java source files in an Eclipse project.
[03:41:17] <blahdeblah> ?
[03:41:34] <rcjsuen> blahdeblah: change the template for java files in the preferences
[03:41:41] <zx|cafe> like on class creation?
[03:41:44] <zx|cafe> ya what rcjsuen said
[03:42:08] <blahdeblah> zx|cafe, rcjsuen: ideally, i'd like to be able to retrofit to existing classes as well as new classes...
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[03:45:30] <zx|cafe> blahdeblah: I wouldn't know how to retrofit existing classes w/o actually doing a fancy regex of some type. If you update the project settings to include the template, then it should work for all new classes
[03:46:18] <rawblem> ok i hate when this happens but it happens to me all the time
[03:46:32] <rawblem> i have a checked out project in my workspace, and an svn location for it, but i checked the project out via command line
[03:46:43] <rawblem> now i can't seem to link them together.   team-> only shows "apply patch"
[03:46:52] <rcjsuen> No 'Share Project'?
[03:47:02] <rawblem> rcjsuen:  nope
[03:47:05] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[03:47:13] <rcjsuen> There is for CVS, in that scenario.
[03:47:26] <rcjsuen> File an RFE to that plug-in's team.
[03:47:55] <rawblem> poop. poop poop poop
[03:48:45] <zx|cafe> I wish the SVN teams would just get along
[03:48:49] <zx|cafe> and produce something of quality
[03:49:51] <rcjsuen> unpossible
[03:50:31] <Jimbob2k> getting: -pprovider not specified - defaulting to org.eclipse.cdt.core.index.export.ExternalExportProjectProvider Option -target takes exactly 1 parameters
[03:50:50] <zx|cafe> That's too much CDT for me to parse :O
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[03:52:31] <rawblem> rcjsuen:  ha... ok i'm stupid... was using wrong eclipse build... didnt have subclipse installed. the new subclipse works fine =D
[03:53:22] <rcjsuen> well then
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[03:54:17] <zx|cafe> subclipse is better anyway, subverise damages my eyes
[03:54:47] <rcjsuen> I've only used Subclipse *shrugs*
[03:55:05] <rawblem> rcjsuen:  interesting... sysout   and ctrl+space no longer shows system.out.println as a default completion.   I have to press ctrl+space twice to get to it
[03:55:14] <zx|cafe> If you want to see about every UI guideline violated, check out subversive :D
[03:55:17] <rawblem> new install obviously
[03:55:40] <rawblem> its a template proposal instead of ad efault proposal
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[04:08:38] <nitind> zx|cafe: I thought that was the one that claimed to be better integrated?
[04:10:08] <zx|cafe> nitind: it looks like poop and the icons are ugly
[04:10:47] <rcjsuen> Could've sworn they said they felt their icons were superior.
[04:11:50] <zx|cafe> poooop
[04:12:34] <nitind> zx|cafe: Don't hold back, tell me how you really feel.
[04:13:00] <rcjsuen> nitind: s/poooop/shit?
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[04:13:25] <Jimbob2k> ok, my breakpoint isn't being hit.
[04:13:28] <rcjsuen> nitind: You like that line don't you.
[04:13:38] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: Does it hit any breakpoints?
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[04:13:52] <Jimbob2k> where's a good place to put one?
[04:13:57] <nitind> rcjsuen: It's been used on me.
[04:14:07] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: Open the 'Debug' view, you see multiple threads, yes?
[04:14:35] <Jimbob2k> in the original eclipse (the one I dev in)?
[04:14:45] <Jimbob2k> am I best launching via overview?
[04:15:04] <rcjsuen> In the Eclipse that I presume you pressed F11 in.
[04:15:05] <Jimbob2k> "Launch an Eclipse Application in Debug mode"
[04:15:27] <nitind> via overview?  the what?
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[04:16:01] <Jimbob2k> it's working now!
[04:16:13] <rcjsuen> Well then
[04:16:18] <rcjsuen> nitind: 'Overview' page in manifest editor.
[04:16:22] <rcjsuen> or tab, whatevs
[04:16:26] <Jimbob2k> nitind: yeah, what he said.
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[04:18:14] <Jimbob2k> how can I get a callstack?
[04:18:30] <Jimbob2k> ah, it's the debug view, I see.
[04:20:02] <zx|cafe> :)
[04:20:43] <zx|cafe> Jimbob2k: http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-ecbug/
[04:20:46] <zx|cafe> Jimbob2k: that should help too
[04:22:55] <Jimbob2k> yup, thanks very much.
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[04:35:55] <rcjsuen> I have an ICompletionProposal i return for my quick assist processor but the getAdditionalProposalInfo() method doesn't seem to be getting called, any ideas?
[04:36:26] <rcjsuen> the proposal's definitely getting created properly, the apply method works, stuff from getDisplayString() shows up 'n' all
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[04:37:41] <Jimbob2k> is there any build and continue type stuff in eclipse?
[04:38:25] <rcjsuen> 'build and continue type stuff'?
[04:39:05] <carluva> I'm having some trouble trying to export a jar in Eclipse...when I try to export with the source attached, I get the error "Resource is out of sync with the file system" for two of the files...what does that error mean?
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[04:43:57] <rcjsuen> carluva: Means Eclipse's "copy" of that file is out of sync with the file system, as you would imagine.
[04:44:08] <carluva> okay...how do I fix it?
[04:44:19] <Jimbob2k> how do I stop debugging?
[04:44:44] <krbarnes> hit the big red stop button
[04:44:57] <carluva> rcjsuen:  as far as I can tell, eclipse doesn't even have a copy of it loaded right now...
[04:45:22] <rcjsuen> carluva: Could try refreshing.
[04:45:44] * Jimbob2k is tired and dumb.
[04:47:21] <Jimbob2k> ok thanks guys it all works. can debug my psp applications now,
[04:49:01] <carluva> rcjsuen:  okay, thanks, that worked...I had to refresh one of the files twice, though...I've never had that happen before...
[04:50:45] <carluva> thanks a bunch
[04:55:22] <krbarnes> Jimbob2k: PSP as in Playstation Portable?
[04:55:56] <Jimbob2k> yeah.
[04:56:37] <Jimbob2k> actually, I got my plugin code to work when I launch it with F11, but it doesn't work now that I did that export wizard thing and relaunched eclipse, anyone got any ideas on that?
[04:56:47] <rcjsuen> I think I don't have proposal infos because I don't have an IInformationController, hrm
[04:58:55] <rawblem> new install on 64 bit linux OS... having a lot of problem with code complete. anyone else experience this?
[04:59:10] <rawblem> nothing seems to be registering as a code completion
[05:00:24] <Jimbob2k> crap, now the files I'd modified have been lost!
[05:00:26] <rawblem> I'm getting "No default proposals", "No template rpoposals", and "No JPA Proposals"
[05:01:23] <rcjsuen> Okay, so in your SourceViewerConfiguration's subclass's getQuickAssistAssistant(ISourceViewer) method, make sure the returned IQuickAssistAssistant (which is probably a QuickAssistAssistant subclass) has an IInformationControlCreator set.
[05:02:13] <rawblem> rcjsuen:  if you're talking to me, i'm not extending / implementing code completion. I'm just trying to use it normally ;)
[05:02:28] <rawblem> rcjsuen:   just regular old writing java
[05:02:49] <rawblem> rcjsuen:  not even using it in a plugin!
[05:02:55] <rcjsuen> rawblem: No, I was asking a question earlier, and just saying the solution out loud for interested parties.
[05:03:08] <rawblem> rcjsuen:  ah... ok sorry I misunderstood ;)
[05:03:42] <rcjsuen> rawblem: Window -> Preferences -> Java -> Editor -> Content Assist -> Advanced, all checked?
[05:04:44] <rawblem> rcjsuen:  my god now they are. wow.  heh.  You know, I just get so used to stuff just working immediately and then they go and move stuff around ;)
[05:05:25] <rcjsuen> rawblem: We had the same question just an hour or two ago.
[05:05:41] <rawblem> rcjsuen:  must not have been paying attention. heh. awesome
[05:05:56] <rawblem> rcjsuen:  you are truly adding value to this channel ;)
[05:06:33] <rcjsuen> rawblem: Actually, njbartlett_ caught that one earlier.
[05:07:13] <rawblem> rcjsuen:  yes but he wasnt here this time and you are.  people who stick around and remember solutions add value
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[05:10:54] <Jimbob2k> gah, now Im getting Error creating session when trying to debug the app..
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[05:14:50] <Jimbob2k> how can I get more logging? I already added -console -consoleLog -debug
[05:16:03] <rcjsuen> Not sure if more will really help, what's the error
[05:17:46] <Jimbob2k> I've explicitly pathed my gdb as C:\msys\local\bin\devkitPSP\bin\hbpsp-gdb.exe
[05:18:24] <Jimbob2k> All I get is Exec error: The system cannot find the file specified
[05:18:27] <Jimbob2k> three times.
[05:18:47] <rcjsuen> pastebin your console contents
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[05:23:27] <Jimbob2k> http://pastebin.com/d5306e71d
[05:23:49] <Jimbob2k> it's giving some more, going to try breakpointing in debug mi core or whatever.
[05:24:31] <rcjsuen> that'd be a good start
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[05:40:43] <Jimbob2k> I'm getting lots of out of memory errors.
[05:43:13] <Jimbob2k> I did xmm to 512 maxpermsize to 128, should I go higher? I've not got too much mem on this computer.
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[05:56:59] <nitind> d_a_carver: Do you see a compile error in org.eclipse.wst.xsl.debugger.XMLReaderWrapper.LineReadingContentHandler.resolveEntity(String, String)?
[05:58:24] <Jimbob2k> is there some way of importing a file as a reference as opposed to a copy?
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[06:01:43] <nitind> Jimbob2k: A link, possibly.  Create a new file in the workspace but fill in the Advanced part of the file with the correct location.
[06:06:51] <Jimbob2k> argh.
[06:06:57] <Jimbob2k> how can I add a c/c++ nature to a project?
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[06:12:16] <Jimbob2k> argh, I setup a new c/c++ project, but now it wants to build it! there's nothing to build, I don't want any makefiles, just to be able to debug a program.
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[06:20:03] <Jimbob2k> ah well, got to go. thanks for all the help everyone.
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[07:04:24] <unlord> when I deploy into a server with WTP
[07:04:31] <unlord> what about the jar files?
[07:05:40] <HanifB> I have BufferedReader inFile = new BufferedReader(new FileReader(
[07:05:41] <HanifB> 					"video.dat"));. When I run in Eclipse, it is not finding the file. Am i doing something wrong?
[07:07:57] <AlNor> I think Eclipse looks in the eclipse root dir by default - that's where the JVM was started from
[07:08:23] <HanifB> so put the file there?
[07:09:09] * HanifB tried that, same erro
[07:09:12] <HanifB> error
[07:09:30] <AlNor> does the file actually exist?
[07:09:47] <HanifB> yes
[07:09:50] <HanifB> of course
[07:10:06] <AlNor> well not "of course" - I can't see what you are doing :)
[07:10:44] <AlNor> what is the error?
[07:10:57] <HanifB> java.io.FileNotFoundException: video.dat (No such file or directory)
[07:14:19] <HanifB> hmmm
[07:16:11] <AlNor> seems to look in the project root actually
[07:17:40] * AlNor nudges HanifB
[07:17:45] <HanifB> that worked
[07:17:47] <HanifB> thanks
[07:19:01] <AlNor> ahh, in the Run ... dialog there is a Classpath tab
[07:19:17] <AlNor> and the project has been added to that by default
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[07:20:33] <HanifB> I got so many errors now though
[07:20:33] <HanifB> I'll debug htem tomorrow
[07:20:50] <HanifB> thanks for the help
[07:20:51] <HanifB> good night
[07:21:02] <AlNor> nn
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[08:34:27] <bronson> Dammit, Eclipse keeps closing editors that get opened when I search.
[08:34:31] <bronson> I want them to stay open!!
[08:35:31] <bronson> How can I tell Eclipse to quit closing editor windows automatically?  Preferences -> Editors -> Close Automatically is turned off of course.
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[08:48:08] <ulfdoz> Hm, swt is unusable slow, when attached to an profiler. And not just the profiled app.
[08:48:14] <ulfdoz> Is there a trick, to get the guis responsive and profile the rest?
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[09:05:34] <JohnBat26> Hi all
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[09:05:52] <JohnBat26> I install clear Eclipse-3.3.1.1
[09:06:01] <JohnBat26> But update don't work
[09:06:24] <JohnBat26> and I don't may install any plugin across update site
[09:06:34] <JohnBat26> Error: Current configuration problems eclipse
[09:06:47] <JohnBat26> Help me, please
[09:06:49] <JohnBat26> ;)
[09:07:03] <JohnBat26> OS: Gentoo Linux x86
[09:07:18] <JohnBat26> JVM: Sun JDK 1.6_03
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[10:26:19] <eilartt> i've erased .project file from a directory in my workspace and now eclipse dont allow me to create a project cause it says it already exists
[10:26:35] <eilartt> where is memorized the list of the workspace projects?
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[10:30:31] <b0r3d> hi. how can I run eclipse in debug mode? I mean I have some plug-ins that didn't load and I want to see why
[10:30:39] <b0r3d> I did it before.. but forgot the command.
[10:31:42] <b0r3d> does that give you more info about plugins?
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[10:34:30] <b0r3d> it's not that command
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[10:39:08] <b0r3d> how to get more info about plugins?
[10:39:28] <eilartt> hot to get more info about workspace project list?
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[10:42:51] <b0r3d> how to get more info about a plugin that failed to load?
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[10:53:30] <b0r3d> how to get more info about a plugin that failed to load?
[10:56:53] <njbartlett_> ~console
[10:57:02] <njbartlett_> ~info
[10:57:03] <KOS-MOS> Please state your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), your Java runtime environment (unless you checked in your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, you do not know _for sure_, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), your Eclipse version, and where did you download Eclipse from.
[10:57:10] <njbartlett_> Doh, wrong command
[10:57:23] <njbartlett_> b0r3d: You could try opening the OSGi console
[10:58:11] <njbartlett_> b0r3d: Launch eclipse with the -console command line switch, you should get an interactive text console.
[10:58:56] <njbartlett_> Some docs on how to use the console are in this article by zx: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-ecl-osgiconsole/index.html
[10:59:52] <njbartlett_> ~list
[10:59:52] <KOS-MOS> Check out the list of available messages and commands I provide - http://ecf.eclipse.org/~rcjsuen/messages.html - http://ecf.eclipse.org/~rcjsuen/commands.html
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[11:12:58] <eilartt> hei boys, i've erased a project from the filesistem, now eclipse don't make me recreate it asserting that a project with the same name aleready exists
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[11:17:52] <b52h> hi\
[11:19:26] <b52h> i got a small :D  problem  with eclipse  after reloading my system (win...)  it refuse to start http://pastebin.com/m7852bc54
[11:19:32] <b52h> i'm using eclipse 3.3
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[11:35:45] <matt1982> hey peeps is there a way to do amass find and replace over a project in eclipse?
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[11:50:03] <josh__> is there any reason why i might not be able to make a certain directory as a workspace ?
[11:51:03] <eilartt> how to disable in a project eclipse to put the class in a bin directory instead than in the source tree?
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[11:53:49] <martinkli> eilartt: right-click on the project -> Properties -> Java Build Path -> Source tab, there you can define the output folder for the project etc.
[11:54:34] <eilartt> there is no "bin" anywhere
[11:54:42] <martinkli> josh__: what do you mean exactly? in the workspace selection dialog you should be able to select any accessible folder
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[11:55:15] <josh__> martinkli, , yes i chose /var/www and it said that i couldnt use it
[11:55:16] <martinkli> eilartt: do you want it to be in bin or do you want source and classes in the same folder?
[11:55:28] <eilartt> sources and classes in the same folder
[11:55:57] <martinkli> josh__: do you have write access for /var/www? unless you are root, you probably shouldn't, I guess
[11:56:31] <martinkli> then you have to select the option "Allow output folders for source folders"
[11:56:45] <eilartt> but it recreates the bin dir with classes inside if i try to erase it
[11:56:46] <josh__> where abouts is that option ?
[11:57:19] <josh__> www currently is drwxr-xr-x
[11:57:34] <martinkli> josh__: that's not an eclipse option, the access rights are defined in your file system
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[11:58:33] <martinkli> eilartt: you have to go the options I mentioned above and configure everything correctly, then you can delete the bin directory
[11:58:43] <eilartt> yes, i've done
[11:58:54] <eilartt> seem work
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[12:03:56] <eilartt> martinkli thanks for your kindness
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[12:06:12] <martinkli> eilartt: glad I could help you
[12:11:25] <martinkli> josh__: if your user account does not have write access to /var/www, you might want to place the workspace in your home directory and then deploy your "output" to /var/www using a priviledged account
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[12:29:42] <matsuka> Is it possible to add as a member of a class a file which existis in the same project using eclipse dialogs and not by hand writting?
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[13:24:16] <Jimbob2k> hey guys.
[13:25:27] <Jimbob2k> I'm trying to debug an eclipse windows spawn problem when launching a msys debugger, and have traced the code right up until it starts running stuff from org.eclipse.cdt.utils,
[13:25:38] <Jimbob2k> I don't seem to have .cdt.utils anywhere on my filesystem?!
[13:26:14] <emantos> hi guys, I have a question,.. how would u listen for the open/close event of the workspace
[13:26:54] <emantos> like, when I first start eclipse, I want to gather all the IProject in the workspace and do something with them
[13:31:05] <Jimbob2k> it fails somewhere in "final Process pgdb = ProcessFactory.getFactory().exec(args);"
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[13:34:10] <Getty> is this also a right place for PDT questions?
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[13:40:40] <rcjsuen> bronson: Well, my editors definitely stay open. Did you check bugzilla?
[13:41:33] <rcjsuen> JohnBat26: What do you mean it won't work? Eclipse crashes? Update Manager doesn't respond to mouse clicks? Mirrors aren't responding? You need to give more context.
[13:42:01] <bronson> rcjsuen: if you do a Control-H search, double-click on a file, and then double-click on another file, both editors stay open?
[13:42:19] <bronson> What about if you already have ~8 editor windows open?
[13:42:49] <bronson> This sure feels like a feature to me... .  .
[13:43:27] <rcjsuen> Oh, I see what you're saying.
[13:44:10] <rcjsuen> bronson: Then go file one.
[13:44:27] <bronson> rcjsuen: You're seeing the same thing I am?
[13:44:58] <rcjsuen> Yes.
[13:45:46] <bronson> Ah, cool.  Guess I'll file a bug.  :)
[13:45:49] <bronson> Thanks for verifying.
[13:46:18] <rcjsuen> Getty: yes, you are welcome for trying
[13:47:06] <rcjsuen> emantos: I guess you could use the startup extension point and start your plug-in there.
[13:48:04] <rcjsuen> b52h: Try restarting with -clean. I see you're using MyEclipse though, you should ask those guys.
[13:48:18] <kirkt> hey rcjsuen, about the problem i had yesterday with exporting jars, turned out it only worked for eclipse 3.2, and with 3.3 it still does the same problem. cant locate activator. any idea why?
[13:48:38] <rcjsuen> Not really, not off-hand.
[13:48:43] <emantos> rcjsuen , thanks very much. any keyword you can suggest to start off my search for that? what's the name of the extension point?
[13:48:56] <rcjsuen> emantos: the 'startup' keyword?
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[13:49:04] <rcjsuen> or maybe it's startu
[13:49:06] <rcjsuen> start, i mean
[13:49:11] <emantos> rcjsuen , :D thanks, i'll try that one
[13:49:43] <emantos> rcjsuen , thanks, I got it.
[13:50:36] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: you should look at the 'args' string and see what it's executing
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[13:51:14] <emantos> damn, its deprecated. tsk tsk tsk.
[13:51:15] <emantos> :D
[13:51:52] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: It's all fine and correct. I noticed that the other environment thing was empty though, could that be the problem?
[13:51:54] <paulweb515> emantos: as much as possible, you should wait until the user requires some data
[13:52:12] <rcjsuen> what is "the other environment thing"
[13:52:31] <paulweb515> emantos: i.e. they do something like open a view ... then they actually need to see the data
[13:52:33] <rcjsuen> emantos: Because plug-ins shouldn't "automatically" start, which is why it is discouraged.
[13:52:56] <emantos> paulweb515 , i see
[13:53:04] <emantos> thanks for the advice
[13:53:18] <paulweb515> emantos: in your own RCP app, of course you are free to do what you want
[13:53:44] <emantos> paulweb515 : im developing an eclipse extension so I don't have that luxury :D
[13:53:47] <paulweb515> emantos: in an eclipse plugin, however, we beat people that use the early startup extension ... it is almost never warranted
[13:54:02] <emantos> hehehehehe, point taken.
[13:54:03] <paulweb515> emantos: the eclipse plugin best practice is  "Don't use the early startup extension"
[13:54:46] <JohnBat26> rcjsuen: In Update manager appers label:  Current configuration problems eclipse....
[13:54:51] <paulweb515> emantos: the most common pattern in eclipse plugins, then, is to put early startup code in the Activator#start(BundleContext) method ... something causes your bundle to start, so you get the information
[13:55:08] <paulweb515> emantos: if it needs to be on the UI thread, then we schedule a UIJob which will execute shortly
[13:55:17] <rcjsuen> JohnBat26: Where did you get Eclipse?
[13:55:34] <paulweb515> emantos: Even better is if the information is used in a view, so creating the view is the trigger point to start doing the work/adding the listener
[13:55:38] <JohnBat26> rcjsuen: eclipse.org
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[13:56:03] <JohnBat26> http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/download.php?file=/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.3.1.1-200710231652/eclipse-SDK-3.3.1.1-linux-gtk.tar.gz
[13:56:19] <rcjsuen> JohnBat26: So you extracted, ./eclipse, opened update manager, it fails?
[13:56:26] <emantos> ic , ... so the mantra is to do any initialization the first time the user needs it.
[13:56:27] <paulweb515> emantos: of course, this is only best practice advice :-)  We don't actually beat anyone ...
[13:56:36] <JohnBat26> yes
[13:56:45] <paulweb515> emantos: yes, within eclipse that's what we aim for
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[13:56:57] <rcjsuen> JohnBat26: That shouldn't be happening, I've never heard of someone with that problem using the SDK build.
[13:57:04] <JohnBat26> Eclipse work, But I don't istall any plugin
[13:57:18] <rcjsuen> JohnBat26: Please take a screenshot. You are on 32-bit?
[13:57:21] <emantos> paulweb515 : well, if its the best practice, then i should be practicing it :D
[13:58:03] <JohnBat26> ttp://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.platform.rcp/msg13934.html
[13:58:06] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: one sec, just re-launching.
[13:58:21] <Getty> ok, my PDT Eclipse is "thinking" too much, it always hangs on auto completion stuff
[13:58:38] <Getty> why is it blocking instead of caching or not showing stuff?
[13:59:14] <JohnBat26> + I have this error  too:http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.platform.rcp/msg21229.html
[13:59:43] <JohnBat26> Gentoo Linux 32-bit
[13:59:53] <JohnBat26> JVM : Sun JDK 1.6_04
[14:00:02] <rcjsuen> Getty: Does this happen with an empty workspace?
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[14:02:45] <Getty> rcjsuen: no idea, how i can have an empty workspace? ;) hehe
[14:03:01] <Getty> rcjsuen: i started with a php project, added include paths and filesystem link for the working files
[14:03:03] <rcjsuen> Getty: File > Switch Workspace > Enter in a non-existent folder
[14:03:18] <rcjsuen> Then it'll create a workspace in that folder.
[14:03:28] <Jimbob2k> now I'm getting -pprovider not specified - defaulting to org.eclipse.cdt.core.index.export.ExternalExportProjectProvider, Option -target takes exactly 1 parameters when I try to f11 my version of the cdt?
[14:04:58] <Getty> rcjsuen: i need to test some minutes, the problem doesnt happen all the time
[14:05:10] <Getty> rcjsuen: i work now with a totally empty workspace just with the files directly and see what happens
[14:05:26] <rcjsuen> Getty: Once you have reproduced it on "consistently", you should file a bug.
[14:05:39] <rcjsuen> Of course, it could be a transient problem.
[14:05:44] <rcjsuen> You should check bugzilla for existing bugs also
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[14:11:28] <Getty> rcjsuen: i wouldnt say its a bug
[14:11:44] <Getty> rcjsuen: its just the "uncontrolled" way of access to the filesystem that i guess broke at this moments
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[14:12:09] <Getty> rcjsuen: if i start lets say $obj->| at this point he tries to findout what this obj is able to, and my eclipse hangs for some seconds
[14:12:25] <Getty> rcjsuen: i bet he is doing fileaccess then, and the source is laying on a samba share
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[14:18:50] <Getty> rcjsuen: now it hangs again
[14:19:05] <Getty> $Product->find()| exactly there he hangs again....
[14:19:15] <Getty> empty workspace
[14:19:27] <Getty> it hangs around 5-10 sec.
[14:19:48] <Getty> now it even totally hangs... lol 30 sec. already
[14:19:53] <Getty> ah back again
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[14:20:25] <Getty> and hanging... and hanging, now all the time....
[14:23:09] <rcjsuen> I'll let you decide if you want to open a bug or not.
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[14:23:11] <MacGyverNL> I'm new to Eclipse, read a bit about it and want to try it out.  I've also read that it's highly extensible. Now, considering I program in multiple languages, including Java and C++, what is the best way to install Eclipse so that one program rules them all, so to speak? Install only classic Eclipse, and extend it manually, or install the Java EE version and extend on that as required?
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[14:30:01] <Jimbob2k> I'm getting !MESSAGE Plug-in org.eclipse.jdt.debug.ui was unable to load class . when I try to use my rebuild cdt plugins, any ideas?
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[14:30:46] <BoD[]> Hi!
[14:30:51] <Jimbob2k> does this indicate the src isn't included? Can you package up plugins as source only (for interpreting and easier modification) or must they always be compiled?
[14:32:03] <BoD[]> Does anybody know if there is a "Open method" dialog somewhere in Eclipse - like Open Type or Open Resource, but for all the methods declared in the project
[14:32:06] <BoD[]> ?
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[14:33:07] <d_a_carver> nitind: the wst.xsl.core.XMLReaderWrapper.LineReadingContentHandler.resolveEntity(String, String) had an invalid @override in place.   It had the @override on an interface which isn't valid.   I'll check the correction in.
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[14:40:23] <Getty> rcjsuen: i have no idea what i should right.. i mean, why not everybody gets this problem? i would rather like to solve it, cause i guess its some environment problem which is just "activated" by eclipse
[14:40:35] <Getty> btw: i had the exactly same problem with Zend before, thats why i switched ;)
[14:43:24] <Jimbob2k> when trying to debug now, I'm getting The import org.eclipse.cdt.debug.core cannot be resolved; btw, I'm also getting memory errors in the 2nd spawned eclipse, even though I set my limits very high.
[14:43:54] <d_a_carver> Getty: Hmm...it might not be best to have files on a network share like samba, Any particular reason you aren't using a souce code control system instead of a network shared drive?  Weird things can happen regardless of which IDE environment you use.
[14:43:55] <Jimbob2k> I guess while the memory heap errors are happening, everything else is irrelevent?
[14:44:07] <Getty> d_a_carver: code must run on the server
[14:44:27] <Getty> d_a_carver: if i would misuse a versioning system for every testrun the overhead would be much bigger
[14:44:37] <Getty> d_a_carver: i also see that its not ideal, but i cant get around
[14:44:43] <Getty> d_a_carver: the client machine cant test the code
[14:44:55] <Getty> (client as in the coder)
[14:45:11] <d_a_carver> Getty: Are you testing code on the production server, or just a test sever...can't you setup a local test server on your development machine?
[14:45:24] <Getty> we talk about the local test server
[14:45:35] <Getty> we got a big development server, where everybody has its own environment to test the stuff
[14:45:47] <Getty> the coder is having a windows system in front of him to work with, but the code cant run on windows, cause its linux stuff
[14:45:54] <Getty> made for linux, run on linux
[14:46:09] <Getty> and no, installing linux on every coder pc is not an option ;)
[14:46:19] <d_a_carver> cygwyn?
[14:46:24] <Getty> ???
[14:46:39] <Getty> setting up a perfect copy of the development environment on any pc and then not loosing more management time?
[14:46:41] <d_a_carver> http://www.cygwin.com/
[14:46:47] <Getty> are you crazy? we talk about 15 coder
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[14:46:59] <Getty> we got just 2 linux admins, and one is me, and i'm the technical leader, so other stuff todo
[14:47:02] <Getty> its impossible to handle that
[14:47:09] <Getty> beside that i cant bring all stuff to run on cygwin
[14:47:13] <d_a_carver> Getty: Well...the other option if PDT isn't working, is to try PHPEclipse
[14:47:19] <Getty> PHPEclipse?
[14:47:35] <Getty> i like to hear other plans, its not that i'm not open
[14:47:38] <d_a_carver> http://www.phpeclipse.de/tiki-view_articles.php
[14:47:56] <Getty> just fact is: coder client pc is windows, php code must run on server for test
[14:48:05] <d_a_carver> PHPEclipse is the other PHP Development environment for Eclipse.
[14:48:40] <d_a_carver> The thing is, you can't installed PDT and PHPEclipse in the same eclipse instance, they don't play well with each other.
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[14:54:14] <Jimbob2k> In my package explorer, org.eclipse.cdt.debug.core has a x in its icon, what does this mean?
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[14:55:33] <Getty> stupid question, where is the exactly right place to change the jre used by eclipse itself?
[14:55:51] <Getty> i'm a bit confused cause there are several places where you define the jre of the actual java code you are coding (if you would code java ;) )
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[14:58:41] <Jimbob2k> hmm, looks like it's lost the Java Builder on one of the plugins.
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[15:01:58] <d_a_carver> ~vm
[15:01:59] <KOS-MOS> To learn more about the Eclipse launcher / binary, see - http://www.eclipse.org/swt/launcher.html - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Equinox_Launcher - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/misc/launcher.html
[15:02:45] <d_a_carver> Getty; you can specify which JRE eclipse itself uses with the vm switch when launching eclipse
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[15:04:29] <Getty> so in this .ini -vm and next row the path to the jvm.dll ?
[15:04:45] <rcjsuen> or the 'java' binary
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[15:05:04] <er4z0r> can you help me with OSGi Declaratvie Services? I have a component, that has a mandatory service reference. It gets activated allthough the bind/set Method for my service-ref is never called
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[15:08:39] <Jimbob2k> when trying to browse some cdt plugin source, it's highlighting stuff and saying The import org.eclipse.core cannot be resolved?
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[15:12:17] <Getty> cool ok, now i test it with JRockIt
[15:12:27] <Getty> made amazing results with it on Zend
[15:14:17] <d_a_carver> Getty: Yeah, I use Jrockit myself.
[15:14:43] <Getty> useless question: i want a cool skin for my eclipse ;) is there something? ;)
[15:14:55] <Getty> i mean so black 3d borders and shit ;) you know fancy and dark
[15:15:10] <d_a_carver> Getty: no. but it's in one of the long term plans to providing better theming support
[15:15:27] <MacGyverNL> I'd like an inverted theme, I guess.
[15:15:51] <Getty> yeah that would be first help
[15:16:04] <Getty> i code regulary White on Black, and i have no idea how to set this up
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[15:19:39] <toulmean> hey everyone
[15:19:56] <toulmean> 2 questions: what is the best newsgroup to post questions about PDE ?
[15:20:08] <emantos> d_a_carver : is there any long term plan for the theming of the editor ... like u can just choose a predefined theme that will give ur editor a predefined syntax coloring
[15:20:39] <emantos> for now, i have to manually change it if i havent yet exported it
[15:20:53] <rcjsuen> toulmean: ask here or the eclipse.platform newsgroup I s'pose
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[15:21:48] <d_a_carver> emantos: best bet is to search the bugs with "theme" as one of the words to look for
[15:22:21] <toulmean> my other question is for PDE guys: when typing //$NON-NLS-1$ to ignore a string, the PDE dialog to help externalizing does not recognize that pattern when adding a space between // and $NON-NLS-1$. Is it a bug ?
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[15:22:26] <toulmean> thanks Remi
[15:22:33] <toulmean> I'll just do that
[15:22:52] <emantos> d_a_carver : :D thanks for the tip.
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[15:26:04] <rcjsuen> toulmean: yeah, if there's a space the parser does not pick it up as you see in the Java editor, not sure if it's a bug, never bothered me anyway
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[15:26:55] <toulmean> rcjsuen ok Remi, I'll post to the newsgroup, and will open a bug
[15:26:59] <toulmean> thanks!
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[15:44:41] <Jimbob2k> seems like all my main parts of eclipse don't like my new plugins as they've still got their dependencies setup to point to the old ones. Is there anyway of automatically refreshing all the dependencies in plugins that you've only got .jars for?
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[16:24:01] <ccozan> hi all
[16:24:14] <ccozan> any1 can help me with a CDT setting?
[16:24:59] <ccozan> i have in a .c file a #ifdef USE_THIS .... #endif
[16:25:55] <ccozan> if i do that the section colors gray and it can't get any outline and also i can't use CTRL-click to navigate
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[16:27:15] <ccozan> any idea how can i add this  "define USE_THIS" so that eclipse knows that i really use USE_THIS
[16:34:09] <ccozan> cool, i got it alone
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[16:38:39] <ElvanorAtWork> Do the Eclipse development team uses jsch-0.1.36 in latest releases?
[16:38:55] * zx|work checks
[16:39:10] <zx|work> I see 1.31
[16:39:14] <ElvanorAtWork> I am trying to compile 3.3.1.1 against jsch, but it fails
[16:39:17] <zx|work> Is there an eed to update?
[16:39:23] <ElvanorAtWork> jsch-0.1.36 I meant
[16:39:35] <zx|work> in 3.4M4, I see 0.1.31
[16:39:37] <ElvanorAtWork> zx|work: well, 0.1.31 has bugs
[16:39:46] <ElvanorAtWork> zx|work: thanks
[16:40:03] <ElvanorAtWork> so they don't plan to move to a newer version in the near future that means
[16:40:13] <zx|work> ElvanorAtWork: oh ok, if there's a case I can start the process for the version bump
[16:40:42] <ElvanorAtWork> zx|work: would be nice
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[16:53:09] <zx|work> ElvanorAtWork: I see that 0.1.35 is in queue, what was the difference between 35 and 36?
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[16:53:50] <ElvanorAtWork> in 0.1.36 they break API for ChannelSftp class
[16:54:00] <ElvanorAtWork> the pwd() function now can throw an exception
[16:54:07] <ElvanorAtWork> in 0.1.34 it can't
[16:54:16] <ElvanorAtWork> so Eclipse does not build against 0.1.36 because of that
[16:54:48] <ElvanorAtWork> I don't know if it would build against 0.1.35
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[16:56:52] <Jimbob2k> right, I'm getting tired of all the dependency problems I'm having while trying to change the CDT. Where should I go for the very latest version of Eclipse, with all plugins installed as source only?
[16:59:24] <zx|work> which version of Eclipse are you using? I'd assume the latest milestone would be OK (3.4M4)
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[17:02:36] <ElvanorAtWork> 3.3.1.1
[17:03:03] <ElvanorAtWork> zx|work: check org.eclipse.jsch.internal.ui.preference.PreferencePage
[17:05:32] <LAVILA> I am working with eclispe 3.3.1.1, trying to setup java web start and getting this error Could not find main-class org.eclipse.core.launcher.WebStartMain
[17:05:58] <LAVILA> DO you know in what plugin is this class supossed to be?? I cannot ifind it in equinox.launch
[17:07:00] <zx|work> maybe org.eclipse.core.runtime
[17:07:17] <LAVILA> willl check that
[17:07:29] <LAVILA> thanks... other suggestions?
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[17:10:20] <LAVILA> not there :(
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[17:15:05] <ekuleshov> zx: what are those guys been thinking when moving image viewer to wpt?
[17:16:31] <zx|work> ekuleshov: I don't know. I'm considering throwing it in the PDE Incubator for now and possibly graduating something in M6
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[17:17:09] <ekuleshov> zx|work: that would be handy
[17:17:44] <zx|work> ekuleshov: I just need to sit down with the bug and refactor it into a separate plug-in and see what's missing
[17:17:53] <ekuleshov> zx|work: I also wonder if I should move it back to the platform... but that will be considered rude
[17:18:20] <zx|work> ekuleshov: lol :)
[17:19:30] <ekuleshov> zx|work: btw, QuickView developer picked up his code again and his plugin as functional as mine patch for the ide plugin. though he also don't have crop and save as... features
[17:21:05] <Jimbob2k> zx|work : I kind-of like the idea of following a fairly bleeding edge (but not too bleeding edge) subversion repo.
[17:21:43] <zx|work> Jimbob2k: I'm always on the edge :)
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[17:23:08] <Jimbob2k> The problem I can forsee is that there's CDTs repos and eclipse general ones, and keeping the two in sync would, I imagine be a bit painful?
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[17:29:04] <e14600> hello
[17:29:29] <rcjsuen> e14600: Hi
[17:29:53] <e14600> I'm having some editor problems in Windows Europa and was wondering if anyone can help; my backspace and arrow keys don't work!
[17:30:10] <e14600> It sounds a lot like this thread: http://dev.eclipse.org/mhonarc/lists/cross-project-issues-dev/msg01833.html
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[17:31:26] <e14600> I've switched between a 1.5.0_14 jvm and a 1.6.0_03 jvm and that didn't help
[17:31:48] <e14600> if I ctrl+backspace that works
[17:31:53] <e14600> or ctrl+<arrow keys>
[17:32:03] <e14600> just not straight away
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[17:32:43] <d_a_carver> Doesn't the Nebula project have a image viewer widget?
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[17:35:40] <rcjsuen> they have a Gallery widget
[17:35:41] <zx|work> not the same thing
[17:36:51] <LAVILA> anybody knows if java web start works with elcipose 3.3.1.1 and acan point me to a useful tutorial?
[17:37:06] <markluffel>  in a plugin's MANIFEST.MF, what effect does visibility:=reexport do? does it bundle the jar file of the reexported plugin with the given plugin?
[17:40:37] <rcjsuen> markluffel: no for Q2
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[17:41:47] <nitind> ekuleshov: Moving what into what?
[17:42:17] <rcjsuen> markluffel: see Export-Package and that might make some sense by "re" export
[17:43:17] <d_a_carver> zx|work: Well it might not be the exact same thing, but the image viewer, might be a good widget candidate for nebula while it incubates, so that both can reuse the same api's where necessary instead of re-inventing them.
[17:43:18] <nitind> markluffel: It automatically makes the other plug-in available as a runtime dependency on anything that declares this plug-in as a runtime dependency.  Unless you have a specific reason to use it, I'd say don't.  You effectively make its API something you have to keep providing.
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[17:46:46] <blundar> hello all.
[17:47:56] <rcjsuen> blundar: Hi
[17:49:42] <blundar> how are you doing?
[17:49:52] <blundar> I'm an eclipse newbie and I
[17:50:02] <blundar> I'm having some silly issues
[17:50:15] <blundar> I'm using it for ARM7 cross-development with gcc
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[17:50:33] <blundar> I think I'm setting up the projects a little funny
[17:51:00] <blundar> the issue I am having is that if I try to do a build project from within eclipse, it fails saying it cannot find "as"
[17:51:19] <blundar> if I manually invoke make from the command line in the project directory, it builds perfectly
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[17:52:00] <blundar> I've specified the correct AS / GCC in the makefile in the project directory
[17:52:25] <gromgull> I have a view that contains many tableViewers, aligned horisontally by a row-layout - how can I add a horistonal scrollbar for the view itself?
[17:52:38] <gromgull> so that if there are too many tables I can scroll to see the rest?
[17:53:54] <rcjsuen> ~tell gromgull about api ScrolledComposite
[17:53:55] <KOS-MOS> gromgull: org.eclipse.swt.custom.ScrolledComposite - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/swt/custom/ScrolledComposite.html
[17:54:14] <gromgull> tahnks!
[17:54:15] <gromgull> thanks
[17:54:30] <blundar> any ideas on my building issue?
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[17:54:32] <blundar> :)
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[17:55:30] <ekuleshov> nitind: bug 155323
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[18:15:57] <gromgull> I'm sure this is easy to look-up if you know where - but how can I have one view opening another? i.e. I double click a file and I want some webbrowser view to popup... assuming i write both views?
[18:16:30] <gromgull> I can find the view in the view registry and get a ViewDescription... and create a new view freom this.
[18:17:49] <rcjsuen> ~tell gromgull about api IWorkbenchPage#showView(String)
[18:17:50] <KOS-MOS> gromgull: IWorkbenchPage#showView - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/ui/IWorkbenchPage.html#showView(java.lang.String)
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[18:20:42] <gromgull> thanks again :)
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[19:24:54] <jimcan> Is it possible to use an update site to create directories in the eclipse/ directory as well as install a plugin? (not sure if this is clear)
[19:25:30] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: Never heard of that.
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[19:25:40] <rcjsuen> jimcan: Never heard of that.
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[19:25:55] <rcjsuen> jimcan: Why are you adding new folders, this is unexpected on the user's part
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[19:26:40] <jimcan> Well my plugin is going to be displaying files found in a particular directory and I want to make that directory accessable to users
[19:27:12] <jimcan> but I need to have some way to have that directory created with some template files already there
[19:27:41] <rcjsuen> So your plug-in is going to read a directory for some .xyz files, and you also want to prepopulate that directory with some .xyz files?
[19:28:02] <jimcan> yes
[19:28:06] <rcjsuen> I think update sites are meant to just download files, not run some bash script to do crazy magic.
[19:28:37] <rcjsuen> what project are you with
[19:29:13] <rcjsuen> One alternative would be to package your plug-in as a direcotry instead of a jar and read a folder in said plug-in's root directory.
[19:29:29] <rcjsuen> I dunno how update sites work with non-jars though.
[19:29:47] <rcjsuen> Or you could just have the user specify a folder (or use the .metadata folder).
[19:30:07] <rcjsuen> Once that's settled, upon plug-in activation, open InputStreams in your files within your jar and file io / rw them to the folde.r
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[19:31:16] <jimcan> alright thanks, I was thinking of doing that (file io/rw) but I wanted to make sure there wasn't an easier way first
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[20:30:23] <Jimbob2k> ok, I cleaned out my eclipse again, now I want to make 1 change to a part of the CDT plugins, what should my first step be?
[20:31:07] <rcjsuen> Well, I guess you should install CDT first.
[20:31:23] <rcjsuen> Or I guess you could checkout all relevant projects to your workspace, I do that sometimes.
[20:31:41] <Jimbob2k> Yeah, done that, got the right versions of everything this time (3.4 M4 I think).
[20:32:06] <rcjsuen> So checkout that one project from CVS.
[20:32:13] <Jimbob2k> I was going to go "Import Plug-ins and Fragments" from my filesystem and see if that works?
[20:32:39] <Jimbob2k> or will that just be a binary jar? (when I started to mess with CVS, I got into all sorts of dependency issues...)
[20:32:47] <Jimbob2k> brb.
[20:33:00] <rcjsuen> You could File > Import if you had the sources.
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[20:33:10] <rcjsuen> But if you want to contribute the fix back, you would obviously get it from CVS.
[20:33:43] <alphaaa__> i have a file open in eclipse, and i can edit it with a text editor. shouldn't it be read-only outside eclipse ?
[20:34:26] <rcjsuen> alphaaa__: Eclipse does not enforce locks.
[20:34:32] <rcjsuen> You can poen five thousand Notepad.exe if you wanted ot.
[20:34:45] <alphaaa__> doesn't windows enforce locks then
[20:35:06] <rcjsuen> alphaaa__: If you could you wouldn't be able to open Notepad five thousand times.
[20:35:43] <robot_jesus> alphaaa__: if the file changes eclipse will prompt you to  realod it
[20:36:29] <alphaaa__> if i modify and save in notepad, and modify and save in eclipse, the notepad changes will be lost
[20:36:41] <rcjsuen> alphaaa__: As you can see, no locks.
[20:36:41] <alphaaa__> (if i don't reload)
[20:37:07] <rcjsuen> Eclipse will prompt you, as robot_jesus mentioned.
[20:37:42] <alphaaa__> how do i find implementations of a interface method
[20:39:04] <rcjsuen> F4 / Ctrl+Shift+T is probably what you want, maybe not.
[20:39:19] <alphaaa__> what is this function called
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[20:39:34] <rcjsuen> Type Hierarchy or something I think
[20:39:44] <rcjsuen> just open the Hierarchy view and drag an interface there
[20:39:53] <alphaaa__> ok
[20:40:18] <njbartlett_> alphaaa__:  If you've got the cursor on an interface method you can just do Ctrl-T to do a "quick" popup hierarchy view
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[20:40:39] <alphaaa__> no pop ups, thanks
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[20:41:33] <njbartlett_> alphaaa__: Huh? You mean you don't get a popup, or you don't want a popup?
[20:41:39] <rcjsuen> ah yes, Ctrl+T
[20:41:43] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+Shift+T is open type, my mistake
[20:41:44] <alphaaa__> dont want ))
[20:41:55] <rcjsuen> *gasp* Does that mean you don't use Ctr+O?
[20:42:07] * rcjsuen still needs intelligent-case-matching-whatever in Quick Outline.
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[20:44:33] <alphaaa__> its not kurtz who minces once on a moped
[20:45:17] <njbartlett_> alphaaa__: Are you on drugs?
[20:45:27] <robot_jesus> hmm ctrl-o, nice
[20:45:37] <robot_jesus> Can we all share are favorite hot keys ?
[20:45:40] * rcjsuen shrugs at njbartlett_.
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[20:45:48] <robot_jesus> KEY: ctrl+shift+r , jump to file/resource
[20:45:51] <rcjsuen> robot_jesus: Ctrl+F8
[20:46:17] <rcjsuen> alt+shift+r is used semi-often
[20:46:33] <njbartlett_> Ctrl-2 for me
[20:47:09] <alphaaa__> NOW, winga
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[20:47:16] <robot_jesus> hmm ctrl+2 new to me
[20:47:19] <rcjsuen> I noticed I don't use Ctrl+3 as often then when I first started using it.
[20:47:21] <robot_jesus> and ctrl=f8 :)
[20:49:44] <rcjsuen> How can I use a TextFileDocumentProvider to handle FileStoreEditorInputs (so my editor can open external files) but also be able to set a document partitioner?
[20:49:52] <rcjsuen> if i try to set one, my editor won't open
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[20:58:00] <rcjsuen> Figured out the problem, I was constantly setting IDocumentPartitioners (because the original 3.2.2 did that). I should've checked to only do that if getDP() returned null, problem solved.
[20:59:14] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: the fix is more of a hack for a hack made to the elf format for a particular toolchain, so not really something that'd go back.
[20:59:17] * rcjsuen switches his target platform from 3.3.1.1 back to 3.2.2 to make sure this is backwards-compatible.
[20:59:40] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: well, suit yourself
[21:00:50] <Jimbob2k> they changed an attribute for the file type of the elf. I'd contribute it back but I'm sure someone would say "Hey what is this silly hack for the PSP doing in Elf.java" or words to that effect.
[21:01:15] <rcjsuen> "they changed"? Sony?
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[21:07:37] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: http://pspdev.tistory.com/9
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[21:13:24] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: seen that, yeah, he's not dealing with prx's though which is the format I need to work. It's ok, I got my little hack going earlier, just need to re-build it.
[21:13:51] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: I think you should still file an RFE to CDT.
[21:14:05] <rcjsuen> To make them aware of this problem.
[21:14:41] <ChrisRecoskie> Jimbob2k: sorry I'm missing the context... are you just adding a new magic number?
[21:15:10] <Jimbob2k> yeah, for ELF_EXECUTABLE, psp has -96 as the 4 byte value.
[21:15:18] <Jimbob2k> instead of 2 or something.
[21:15:36] <ChrisRecoskie> ah ok but it's not the magic number for the CPU
[21:19:04] <unlord> hi guys
[21:19:15] <unlord> I'm running WTP and I am getting a SEVERE jasper compile error
[21:20:46] <rcjsuen> Severe you say
[21:21:45] <unlord> thats what it says
[21:22:19] <ChrisRecoskie> Jimbob2k:  yeah... hmm... that would be hard to put in it sounds like, if you are changing a non-cpu specific constant.  I wonder why they changed that for the PSP...
[21:22:23] <unlord> http://rafb.net/p/uHzSlw92.html
[21:22:26] <rcjsuen> unlord: Did you try googling?
[21:22:32] <unlord> rcjsuen: yes, a bit
[21:22:37] <unlord> I thought I'd ask here as well
[21:23:10] <rcjsuen> ##java might be able to help you also
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[21:23:30] <rcjsuen> I guess the question is if this happens if you start Tomcat from the command line or whatever
[21:24:26] <Jimbob2k> ChrisRecoskie : I think it's because they support 2 different execution formats on the machine that are very similar.
[21:24:35] <njbartlett_> Anybody here used the "automated management of dependencies" tab in the PDE editor?
[21:25:25] <ChrisRecoskie> Jimbob2k:  maybe if you create a PSPBinaryParser class or the like it could go in... it just couldn't go into the base ELF parser
[21:25:57] <rcjsuen> Maybe an extension point could be abstracted out or something?
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[21:28:01] <ChrisRecoskie> rcjsuen:  if you are referring to the ELF thing, we have an extension point for binary parsers already
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[21:28:03] <unlord> rcjsuen: working on that now
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[21:32:37] <rcjsuen> Anyone know how to make an annotation for an IMarker be quick-fix-able graphically with the light bulb icon?
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[21:33:39] <rcjsuen> When a user uses quick fix my processor analyzes the cursor offset and all that good stuff and we do the popup but the icon on the left margin doesn't have the bulb and i'd like to add that.
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[21:35:28] <unlord> rcjsuen: same error when I run it from tomcat (no WTP)
[21:35:48] <rcjsuen> o
[21:36:02] <unlord> nothing in the log files either
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[21:39:03] <unlord> I think I've got bad versions of servlet api
[21:40:02] <unlord> yes that was it
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[22:04:03] <kaje1> Are there any good books out there that explain the GMF?
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[22:04:55] <rcjsuen> kaje1: Didn't they release a book recently?
[22:05:32] <kaje1> rcjsuen: I haven't seen it... Do they have a separate IRC channel?
[22:06:02] <rcjsuen> kaje1: try #eclipse-modeling
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[22:06:59] <rcjsuen> kaje1: I guess I was wrong. http://eclipse-modeling.blogspot.com/2007/09/time-to-write-book.html
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[22:07:32] <Zerone> ello :)
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[22:15:18] <E_mE> where are all the configures located for eclipse? I recently reinstall my linux box and restored a backup /home/e_me, but since then eclipse just refuses to work correctly. keeps throwing DTD errors on PHP files and other random exceptions?
[22:17:06] <nitind> Exceptions aren't often random.  First question is whether you're using an Eclipse build provided by your distribution or from Eclipse.org.
[22:17:11] <rcjsuen> E_mE: How did you install Eclipse?
[22:17:20] <dominikg> see :>
[22:17:31] <E_mE> downloaded and decompressed and that was it really
[22:17:42] <nitind> And you did it again?
[22:17:50] <rcjsuen> The PDT-all-in-one?
[22:17:57] <E_mE> and placed in a location somewhere with a shortcut to the desktop (kde/linux)
[22:18:13] <E_mE> i believe so
[22:18:31] <E_mE> yes it was
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[22:18:41] <rcjsuen> what nitind said?
[22:19:06] <E_mE> nitind: yes i redownloaded afterwards and decompress + moved
[22:19:16] <E_mE> after the reinstall that is
[22:19:28] <Zerone> ello rcjsuen :)
[22:19:43] <rcjsuen> Zerone: Hi
[22:20:08] <E_mE> im using a build from eclipse.org
[22:20:14] <E_mE> sorry, missed that bit
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[22:20:43] <njbartlett_> Zerone, a question for you. Why do you always say "n8 *" when you logout?
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[22:21:58] <rcjsuen> I think that's "good night all"
[22:22:00] <rcjsuen> Or something similar.
[22:22:18] <nitind> E_mE: Then perhaps it's time to start pastebin-ing some of the exceptions so they can be diagnosed.
[22:23:05] <njbartlett_> Oh. In what accent does 8 rhyme with "night"? Australian maybe?
[22:23:09] <E_mE> nitind: ok.. one moment
[22:23:59] <rcjsuen> njbartlett_: Well, I could be wrong ;p
[22:24:46] <njbartlett_> rcjsuen: Just another of life's mysteries :-)
[22:24:52] <E_mE> An error has occurred. See error log for more details.
[22:24:53] <E_mE> org.eclipse.emf.ecore.util.EcoreEMap$DelegateEObjectContainmentEList
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[22:25:44] <garethfn> :S
[22:25:59] <garethfn> downloading within eclipse takes forever
[22:26:08] <garethfn> am i doing something wrong?
[22:26:18] <garethfn> downloading plugins/svn i mean
[22:26:29] <nitind> E_mE: No, the whole thing.  At a pastebin like pastebin.ca.
[22:27:36] <rcjsuen> ~tell E_mE about pastebin
[22:27:37] <KOS-MOS> E_mE: Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
[22:28:59] <E_mE> what do you mean the log?
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[22:30:31] <E_mE> nitind: where are the logs stored?
[22:30:45] <rcjsuen> ~tell E_mE about logs
[22:30:45] <KOS-MOS> E_mE: Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F
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[22:31:51] <garethfn> any reason svn access would be very very slow?
[22:31:55] <garethfn> with subclipse
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[22:32:39] <Altair^> hi, do you guys know how I can get applet-developing working in linux?
[22:32:43] <Altair^> with eclipse of course
[22:32:55] <rcjsuen> "applet-developing working"?
[22:33:10] <E_mE> http://p.caboo.se/139259
[22:33:13] <E_mE> there is the log
[22:33:32] <Altair^> in other words, my eclipse won't compile applets
[22:33:43] <rcjsuen> Altair^: What errors are you getting?
[22:33:48] <E_mE> opps
[22:33:51] <E_mE> thats an old log :/
[22:33:55] <E_mE> sorry
[22:34:02] <Altair^> instead it complains: Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: sun.applet.AppletViewer
[22:34:05] <rcjsuen> E_mE: Rename the .log file, start Eclipse, and try again.
[22:34:24] <E_mE> ok
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[22:34:56] <Altair^> the whole error-file here: http://pastie.caboo.se/139266
[22:35:32] <rcjsuen> Altair^:   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(libgcj.so.81) oho
[22:35:36] <rcjsuen> why am I not surprised
[22:36:09] <rcjsuen> Although I wonder why it has to load sun.applet.AppletViewer and not some interface/abstract class/factory, but anyway
[22:37:25] <E_mE> http://p.caboo.se/139269  there you go.. sorry about the delay nitind
[22:37:32] <rcjsuen> Sounds like your project's using a GCJ runtime as its project setting, and possibly your Eclipse alos.
[22:37:35] <Altair^> rcjsuen: yeah but my main point is that what should I install to make it work?
[22:37:46] <rcjsuen> ~tell E_mE about gcj
[22:37:47] <KOS-MOS> E_mE: GCJ is not officially supported by Eclipse as a Java runtime environment. Please talk with your distribution's packaging team and/or the GCJ team for assistance. To run Eclipse with a different JVM, see: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I_just_installed_Eclipse_on_Linux.2C_but_it_does_not_start._What_is_the_problem.3F
[22:37:54] <rcjsuen> E_mE:    at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(libgcj.so.81)
[22:38:05] <E_mE> its Eclipse PDT
[22:38:08] <E_mE> got PHP
[22:38:09] <rcjsuen> Altair^: see the link above ^
[22:38:10] <E_mE> for*
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[22:39:34] <rcjsuen> E_mE: yes, it's PDT, but you are using GCJ to run PDT
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[22:41:35] <rcjsuen> Altair^: Also, where did you ge tEclipse?
[22:43:39] <Altair^> rcjsuen: aptitude
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[22:44:07] <frb-work> howdy
[22:44:26] <rcjsuen> Altair^: You should a) get a supported JRE like Sun's, BEA's, or IBM's or b) get Eclipse from eclipse.org, or c) do both.
[22:44:34] <frb-work> is there a quick index of what all the icons and things mean in the package explorer hierarchy?
[22:44:35] <rcjsuen> frb-work: Hi
[22:44:49] <Altair^> rcjsuen: yeah I downloaded from eclipse.org now
[22:44:50] <rcjsuen> maybe somewhere in Help
[22:44:55] <rcjsuen> I eventually picked up what they meant.
[22:45:03] <nitind> Altair^: Or d) only use plug-ins provided by your distribution, as they're packaged to work properly for you.
[22:45:04] <rcjsuen> And then moved on with my life
[22:45:18] <Altair^> but problem persists, but now it does not even find the classes - e.g. it complains about import java.awt.*;
[22:45:31] <rcjsuen> nitind: yes, i am curious why it is opening sun.applet.AppletViewer, i would've expected it to use gnu's
[22:45:32] <nitind> Altair^: gcj/gij does not include AWT.
[22:45:49] <Altair^> nitind: yeah
[22:46:57] <rcjsuen> frb-work: Do you have anything specific in mind?
[22:47:22] <E_mE> rcjsuen: im downloading sun java 5 now.. and will remove gcj
[22:47:38] <nitind> rcjsuen: There's a Java Applet launch configuration type, and it probably hard-wires in the Sun applet viewer class.
[22:47:55] <rcjsuen> nitind: yeah i know about the launch config, but hard code sounds ugly
[22:47:58] <rcjsuen> lemme take a look see
[22:48:04] <frb-work> well, I see an S, F, sometimes a C, a red square, a tiny red square with a dot, a green circle
[22:48:11] <nitind> rcjsuen: It's not like it can ask the JRE which one to use.
[22:48:23] <rcjsuen> o rly
[22:48:28] <rcjsuen> I would've thought there's a property :/
[22:48:38] <rcjsuen> frb-work: s = static, f = final
[22:48:40] * nitind stumbles, "oh, maybe there is."
[22:48:43] <rcjsuen> c = constructor
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[22:49:13] <rcjsuen> frb-work: I'll leave the rest for you to figure out yourself, by looking at the icons and your declared methods/fields/whatever.
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[22:49:39] <frb-work> I don't have the source, just the compiled classes
[22:49:55] <rcjsuen> frb-work: does'nt it say in the decompiled classes?
[22:50:13] <nitind> frb-work: Java Development User Guide->Reference->Icons
[22:51:09] * frb-work gives nitind some bacon
[22:51:32] * nitind is a vegetarian, but thanks frb-work all the same
[22:51:53] <rcjsuen> Didn't know you were.
[22:51:57] <rcjsuen> I learn something new everyday
[22:52:05] <frb-work> nitind: seared tuna?
[22:52:27] <nitind> still meat
[22:52:35] <frb-work> so vegan, not just "vegetarian"
[22:52:41] <frb-work> ok, stirfried tempeh
[22:53:16] <frb-work> some snow peas, bell pepper, a little sesame oil, soy sauce
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[23:09:16] <mark_s> Hi all, I don't use eclipse too often. Now I want to moove my Installation to another PC (Linux). After mooving /opt/eclipse the programm won't start after issuing /opt/eclipse/eclipse.  Can someone please help me.
[23:09:41] <rcjsuen> ~tell mark_s about info
[23:09:42] <KOS-MOS> mark_s: Please state your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), your Java runtime environment (unless you checked in your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, you do not know _for sure_, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), your Eclipse version, and where did you download Eclipse from.
[23:09:44] <rcjsuen> ~tell mark_s about logs
[23:09:45] <KOS-MOS> mark_s: Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F
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[23:10:32] <mark_s> the old one was 32bit, the new one is 64 bit. I use Ubuntu with sun java 6.
[23:11:19] <mark_s> I alwasy get the message: bash: /opt/eclipse/eclipse: No such file or directory
[23:12:58] <Jimbob2k> hey guys, getting: Problems during export  Unable to find plug-in: org.eclipse.cdt.core_5.0.0.200801152142. Please check the error log for more details.  Unable to find plug-in: org.eclipse.cdt.core_5.0.0.200801152142. Please check the error log for more details.
[23:13:04] <njbartlett_> mark_s: That means you didn't copy it correctly
[23:13:30] <njbartlett_> Jimbob2k: Did you check the error log?
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[23:13:44] <Jimbob2k> looked for it but couldn't find it.
[23:13:48] <mark_s> njbartlett_: I thought so too. I copied twice. Using rsync and with a zip file
[23:14:01] <Jimbob2k> I did File->Export->Deployable Features
[23:14:04] <njbartlett_> mark_s: Does the file /opt/eclipse/eclipse exist?
[23:14:21] <Jimbob2k> should I have done Deployable Plugins and Fragments instead?
[23:14:47] <njbartlett_> Jimbob2k: I have no idea what you should have done, because I don't know what you're trying to achieve.
[23:15:17] <nitind> mark_s: Check the file for trailing carriage return characters.  It sounds like it's a script and trailing characters like that can mess them up.
[23:15:59] <mark_s> njbartlett_: yes the file exists
[23:16:00] <Jimbob2k> ah, yeah. ok, I did a fresh install of eclipse 3.4, then downloaded the latest nightly of CDT, installed that, then got the latest of the source of CDT and did a rebuild/deploy on that, quit, did eclipse -clean, then changed some of the code of a few plugins and tried to deploy again.
[23:16:05] <Jimbob2k> when the error happened.
[23:16:32] <mark_s> nitind: I type it correctly (using the <Tab> key
[23:16:45] <nitind> mark_s: No, the content of the file itself.
[23:17:12] <njbartlett_> mark_s: Is the file executable?
[23:17:14] <Zerone> n8 *
[23:17:28] <njbartlett_> Zerone: What does that mean??
[23:17:43] <Zerone> good night all = n8 * :)
[23:17:51] <Zerone> a bit german
[23:18:01] <njbartlett_> Ah... 8 doesn't rhyme with night
[23:18:07] <njbartlett_> So it would be "nate all"
[23:18:10] <Zerone> nacht = night in german
[23:18:13] <mark_s> njbartlett: yes rwxr-xr-x
[23:18:17] <njbartlett_> Aaah
[23:18:29] <Zerone> and 8 = acht
[23:18:33] <Zerone> so n8 = nacht :)
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[23:20:36] <Jimbob2k> http://pastebin.com/d5736e488
[23:20:57] <mark_s> this sucks so hard. The system gives me just no feedback
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[23:22:02] <Jimbob2k> so can't resolve org.eclipse.cdt.debug.core then.
[23:22:14] <Jimbob2k> it's in my plugins.
[23:23:54] <nitind> Jimbob2k: Does org.eclipse.cdt.debug.core require something you're missing?
[23:25:05] <Jimbob2k> ok, where do I check that? sorry to be a pain.
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[23:26:33] <Jimbob2k> I see it's got a list of dependencies in the project view.
[23:27:03] <Jimbob2k> they're all resolved to a file in my eclipse app dir, except one of them.
[23:27:10] <nitind> mark_s: Is /opt/eclipse/eclipse a script, and if so have you checked that the line delimiters are correct?
[23:27:42] <mark_s> ok thank you for your time. I guess I just install and configure it again
[23:28:49] <Jimbob2k> ok, I'll try Export Plug-ins and selecting everything from the CDT.
[23:29:25] <mark_s> nitind: it is no script. It is a binary file. the rights a set correct.
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[23:33:24] <njbartlett_> mark_s: Well, I don't understand that. You said the file exists and is executable, but when you run it, bash says "file not found". Maybe one of the UNIX channels can help with this sort of problem.
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[23:34:04] <mark_s> njbartlett_: I will try that
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[23:51:02] <mark_s> njbartlett: I just asked. It is a 32 to 64bit issue
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[23:55:12] <Altair^> argh
[23:55:21] <Altair^> my eclipse still does not work with applets
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[23:55:56] <Altair^> im gay
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