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[00:17:34] <SKuhn> njbartlett_: ping
[00:17:45] <njbartlett_> Oh hi
[00:19:10] <njbartlett_> Yeah so the nice solution I was thinking of probably won't work because Eclipse's extension point lifecycle doesn't quite fit OSGi's.
[00:19:51] <njbartlett_> Which means the original solution I was talking about is probably your best bet. Do the stuff in the activator, then in the plugin that uses the profile, find and activate that plugin
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[00:20:27] <Jimbob2k> hi everyone.
[00:21:03] <Jimbob2k> I'm kinda new to eclipse and thought I'd drop by with a few quick quesions...
[00:22:12] <SKuhn> njbartlett_: do I have to use the activator for counting. Wouldn't any java class not do the same?
[00:22:37] <Jimbob2k> I was looking to use it with Scons using SconsBuilder from http://nic-nac-project.de/~lothar/eclipse/update/,
[00:23:17] <Jimbob2k> but it overwrites the SConstruct file (I've hand crafted them and they're complex), so I was wanting to edit its sources to change its behaviour...
[00:24:01] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: Do you really need to unregister this profile? I think you should just keep things simple: leave it registered.
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[00:24:37] <SKuhn> njbartlett_: no, not really. I just wanted to be a good citizen :)
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[00:25:03] <tretle> hi could someone tell me how to disable the capture output option
[00:25:17] <Jimbob2k> But it seems that it doesn't compile my changes. I imported the files from the plugin as a plugin source project, what am I doing wrong? I've never coded java before, so it's probably something really basic I've not setup right.
[00:25:19] <SKuhn> tretle: capture output?
[00:25:30] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: I don't think it's being a bad citizen to leave it registered. Hell, somebody else might want to use this thing later, so you're helping them out.
[00:25:34] <SKuhn> Jimbob2k: it looks like this plugin is very specific
[00:25:47] <SKuhn> :)
[00:26:03] <tretle> instead of having a program run in the output part of eclipse I want it to run either in the command prompt in windows or the terminal in linux
[00:26:11] <SKuhn> good, so I register it in the activator and start it from somewhere else?
[00:26:22] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: Yup.
[00:26:47] <Jimbob2k> Yeah, in fact, all I really want is a plugin that redirects Build and Clean to a named program that I can setup.
[00:26:52] <SKuhn> tretle: so why running it in eclipse at all?
[00:27:07] <tretle> I am coding it in eclipse
[00:27:15] <tretle> i am compiling it in eclipse
[00:27:30] <tretle> but I want the end result to run in the command promt or terminal
[00:27:47] <tretle> jcreator has the same thing as eclipse now, the capture output
[00:28:03] <tretle> i just prefer it running in the command prompt or terminal
[00:28:25] <njbartlett_> tretle: Then continue coding and compiling it in Eclipse. When you want to run, Alt-Tab to your command prompt and run it from there
[00:29:01] <tretle> seems like a long way around a simple solution... I take it there is no capture output option
[00:29:27] <SKuhn> njbartlett_: I'll do that, thanks
[00:29:45] <njbartlett_> tretle: Alt-Tab is a long way around? If you want Eclipse to open a command prompt, it would have to run the cmd.exe executable
[00:30:10] <tretle> i dunno... does the alt tab method work in linux?
[00:30:41] <njbartlett_> tretle: I don't use Linux regularly, but I imagine it has a way to switch between windows, yes.
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[00:31:58] <tretle> did eclipse always capture the output of the program?
[00:33:04] <njbartlett_> tretle: Yes. Think about it, where else is the output going to go? To send output to a command prompt, Eclipse would have to execute that as a separate process.
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[00:34:13] <tretle> hmmmm
[00:34:28] <njbartlett_> Jimbob2k: This SConsBuilder stuff looks a little specialized. You would probably need to get support from the author.
[00:34:49] <tretle> well back in the day when i first tried learning c I used borland which gave the output in the command prompt
[00:34:54] <tretle> devc++ also did it
[00:35:00] <Jimbob2k> my issue is that in general, it's not rebuilding the classpath jar file.
[00:35:01] <tretle> and same for jcreator
[00:35:15] <Appleman1234> What is the best way to obtain the workspace's current shell in order to provide that shell to create a plugin inside a view
[00:35:18] <Appleman1234> ?
[00:35:40] <njbartlett_> tretle: Was it the same command prompt that you launched the IDE from?
[00:36:01] <njbartlett_> tretle: In other words, those IDEs were just dumping to the standard output
[00:36:07] <Jimbob2k> I followed one of the cheatsheats and got a plugin to build, so I guess I must have a java compiler installed ok?
[00:36:10] <d_a_carver> tretle: borland basicaly opened a command shell, and executed the program...because they didn't at the time have a way to capture the commands in a window.
[00:36:45] <Appleman1234> I tried using IViewSite and ViewPart, but as it is in
[00:37:05] <Appleman1234> the constructor , it causes a stack overflow error
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[00:39:07] <tretle> what if you dont want to capture the commands
[00:39:44] <njbartlett_> tretle: Alt-Tab :-)
[00:40:24] <tretle> alt tab just switches windows
[00:44:20] <njbartlett_> tretle: You can also create a launch configuration that creates an external command prompt and runs the application inside that window. That would basically replicate what jcreator etc were doing. Of course, it would be OS-dependent
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[00:45:19] <tretle> eh
[00:45:22] <tretle> doesnt matter
[00:45:26] <tretle> thanks anyway
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[00:56:26] <rcjsuen> Apologize for the downtime, KOS-MOS is back now.
[00:58:04] <njbartlett_> ~hello
[00:58:13] <rcjsuen> ~hi
[00:58:14] <KOS-MOS> Welcome to this channel. If you have a question, please ask it. Or, type ~faq for a link to the Frequently Asked Questions.
[00:58:17] <rcjsuen> sorry Neil
[00:58:23] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: You could've just asked me on here.
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[00:58:48] <rcjsuen> I always forget about ~hi, should use it more often.
[00:59:49] <dmiles_afk> oh right your here
[01:00:27] <rcjsuen> har har
[01:00:27] <rcjsuen> Why yes I'm here ;p
[01:00:33] <rcjsuen> Doug doesn't use IRC, although I wish he did, what with our ridiculous amount of CDT questions.
[01:01:34] <dmiles_afk> yeah ;P ,  somewhere on one of his pages he metions loading a .csproj file
[01:01:41] <njbartlett_> We should pester him about that again
[01:01:59] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Ah.
[01:03:02] <dmiles_afk> at http://cdtdoug.blogspot.com/2007/09/eclipse-vs-vs-on-slashdot.html  will occasionally give opinions and news regarding the Eclipse CDT - the .... I'm really looking forward using the "File->Import->From .csproj" option :) ...
[01:03:24] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Do you they have an RFE open?
[01:03:50] <dmiles_afk> probly there must be one open somewhere then
[01:04:11] <rcjsuen> [23:42:17] <njbartlett_> No sorry, OSGi won't implement your application for you :-)
[01:04:14] <rcjsuen> Hahaha
[01:04:21] <rcjsuen> Not using OSGi anymore >:(
[01:05:55] <rcjsuen> tretle: Did you get what you want working? I used JCreator two years ago, no more now with Eclipse.
[01:06:03] <rcjsuen> Or wait, 3 years ago I guess now.
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[01:18:11] <tretle> well
[01:18:26] <tretle> if its not corss platform then i dont want to bother with it
[01:18:54] <tretle> because I was interested in eclipse to begin with so i could ditch the xp partition
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[01:27:35] <njbartlett_> tretle: You can do it on any platform. But you can't take the launcher for XP and use it on Linux
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[01:32:22] <rcjsuen> JCreator isn't cross platform, lol
[01:32:41] <rcjsuen> tretle: Eclipse runs on Linux. I'ved used Linux as my main OS since 2005.
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[01:33:31] <the_giver> anyone here manage to "combine" vim shortcuts into eclipse in mac osx (leopard)?
[01:35:02] <rcjsuen> the_giver: Elaborating on the quoted word would help.
[01:38:08] <the_giver> as in.. vim plugin
[01:38:15] <the_giver> i could never get it to work tho
[01:38:38] <the_giver> i basically want to have the vim editor integrated into eclipse
[01:38:50] <the_giver> so i can navigate the text in my document more efficiently
[01:41:09] <rcjsuen> well, there _is_ a vi plugin
[01:41:14] <rcjsuen> I've never used it though.
[01:42:44] <the_giver> i tried it... i dont think it works
[01:44:54] <rcjsuen> did you let them know?
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[01:45:47] <tmccrary> If I want to include a jar with my plugin (log4J in this case), what do I need to do? Where is the documentation for doing this?
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[01:47:02] <rcjsuen> it's probably a better idea to make the jar a separate bundle
[01:47:22] <rcjsuen> tmccrary: http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Plug-in_Development_FAQ#I.27m_using_third_party_jar_files_and_my_plug-in_is_not_working...
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[01:50:15] <tmccrary> ha, they even mention log4j specifically ;)
[01:50:18] <tmccrary> thanks rcjsuen
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[01:52:11] <the_giver> rcjsuen, do you know of a free version ...?
[01:53:56] <rcjsuen> the_giver: Nope.
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[02:09:33] <Appleman1234> What is the best way to get the Swt shell from the current workspace to feed it to a plugin inside a view ?
[02:09:48] <rcjsuen> Appleman1234: Why do you need to do that?
[02:10:31] <Appleman1234> Because I am writing an eclipse plugin , and I moving it from a standalone ap to a view in eclipse
[02:11:09] <Appleman1234> public IViewSite viewsite = this.getViewSite();
[02:11:10] <Appleman1234> 	 public Shell shell2 = viewsite.getShell();
[02:11:23] <rcjsuen> you could do that, or just call getShell() from the Composite in createPartControl
[02:11:32] <Appleman1234> :)
[02:11:43] <Appleman1234> Composite has getShell ?
[02:11:51] <Appleman1234> When I looked it didn't
[02:11:52] <Appleman1234> Thanks
[02:11:59] <rcjsuen> If you just create those public fields you might get an NPE to possibly.
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[02:19:09] <Appleman1234> rcjsuen: Thank you very much :)
[02:22:56] <Appleman1234> Now I get a Argument cannot be null error :)
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[02:50:10] <Appleman1234> any ideas ?
[02:50:19] <Appleman1234> Why would getShell return null ?
[02:51:35] <rcjsuen> Appleman1234: pastebin your code
[02:51:39] <rcjsuen> Did you try debugging?
[02:52:16] <Appleman1234> I tried debugging, nothing different showed up, pastebinning now
[02:52:46] <rcjsuen> Nothing different?
[02:52:54] <rcjsuen> It should tell you why it's null if you debugged into getShell().
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[02:57:17] <chuckhazard> is this an ok place to ask for help installing cdt?
[02:57:37] <rcjsuen> chuckhazard: Feel free.
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[02:58:03] <Appleman1234> rcjsuen: ok ....
[02:58:14] <chuckhazard> ok so this is on windows.  ive installed cygwin with the gcc options, and copied the cdt files into the eclipse directory.
[02:58:21] <chuckhazard> but i'm not getting any c options in eclipse
[02:58:26] <rcjsuen> Appleman1234: Did you paste the code?
[02:59:21] <Appleman1234> Yes
[02:59:26] <rcjsuen> where is it
[02:59:29] <Appleman1234> I going to redebug it though
[02:59:48] <rcjsuen> Appleman1234: Give us the link in the meantime.
[02:59:53] <Appleman1234> ok
[03:00:05] <Appleman1234> http://rafb.net/p/j9l2Fo32.html
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[03:00:34] <rcjsuen> so where is the null problem
[03:00:44] <rcjsuen> what is in GraphJFace1.main(shell2,display2);
[03:01:17] <rcjsuen> Unfortunately, I don't think this code provides us with enough information. You'll have to pastebin your GraphJFace1 class.
[03:01:23] <Appleman1234> Ok
[03:01:43] <rcjsuen> Appleman1234: Append the stack trace with that paste while you're at it.
[03:01:50] <Appleman1234> Ok
[03:01:55] <Appleman1234> Can do :)
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[03:06:04] <Appleman1234> http://rafb.net/p/6TmJVc96.html
[03:06:56] <rcjsuen> Appleman1234: Why would 'shell' be non-null?
[03:07:26] <rcjsuen> You call buildParent() immediately without ever setting your 'shell' field.
[03:08:03] <rcjsuen> you call the main method
[03:08:08] <rcjsuen> then on line 466 you call buildParent()
[03:08:23] <rcjsuen> then on line 431 you refer to your static 'shell' field
[03:08:28] <rcjsuen> which starts of as null per line 67
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[03:08:32] <rcjsuen> and really, stays null
[03:09:29] <Appleman1234> ok
[03:09:42] <rcjsuen> getShell() is not the problem, your code is the problem
[03:09:48] <Appleman1234> Thanks
[03:09:53] * Appleman1234 fixes
[03:11:04] <rcjsuen> Cool, good luck
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[04:04:10] <jeally-bean> when i execute my java app from cmd line it runs fine but when i use eclipse, it can't find resource files (e.g. gif, txt, wav, etc.) that are supposed to be in the root of the main .class. any ideas? maybe i need to set an environment variable?
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[04:05:34] <rcjsuen> how is your project setup? do you have a src/ folder?
[04:06:43] <jeally-bean> rcjsuen: that's probably the problem. i'm following examples in a book and i created 1 project where i extracted several different source examples. so, instead of them being in the /src folder they are in a sub-directory of the project folder...
[04:07:20] <jeally-bean> other than opening files which are supposed to be relative to the classpath (but aren't found), it will build and execute fine
[04:08:58] <jeally-bean> is there a way to make it so new Java Projects do not have to be located in the Workspace root directory?
[04:09:21] <rcjsuen> yes, there's an option
[04:09:35] <rcjsuen> jeally-bean: Not selecting 'Create project in workspace' is a great start.
[04:10:16] <jeally-bean> so i create a New Java Project, type the name, click "Create project rfom existing source' and paste the path, and i get: " Projects located in the workspace folder must be direct sub folders of the workspace folder"
[04:10:45] <rcjsuen> I don't have that problem.
[04:10:50] <rcjsuen> I just put in /home/rcjsuen/abc, was fine.
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[04:11:22] <jeally-bean> i'm using latest version of eclipse pdt ? hmm
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[04:11:43] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[04:11:50] <rcjsuen> The build I'm using is probably not the one you're using.
[04:11:55] <rcjsuen> jeally-bean: Please take a screenshot.
[04:13:36] <jeally-bean> it'll work if i try: C:\Workspace\Project but not C:\Workspace\Subdirectory\Project
[04:14:57] <rcjsuen> Oh, I see what you're doing.
[04:15:02] <rcjsuen> Yeah, that's not entirely supported.
[04:15:36] <jeally-bean> ah ok np
[04:18:30] <rcjsuen> jeally-bean: Each example's resource files should be located in the root of their respective source folders.
[04:18:48] <rcjsuen> So if you have console/org/eclipse/examples, then it should go in console/
[04:20:29] <jeally-bean> rcjsuen: ah, got it. i was just severely abusing my project organization by trying to stuff multiple projects into one (as subdirectories)
[04:20:55] <jeally-bean> now that i set up an eclipse project for each project and pasted code in src directory, everything works :)
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[04:38:44] <jeally-bean> if i have a custom .jar file is there an easy way to add it to the classpath for execution in Eclipse?
[04:39:18] <rcjsuen> For "execution"?
[04:40:05] <jeally-bean> Run As > Java Application
[04:40:29] <rcjsuen> You could add it to your classpath and then specify the main class I s'pose.
[04:40:41] <rcjsuen> I'd probably just run it from the command line I guess.
[04:41:17] <jeally-bean> when i run from command line i use: java -cs "%CLASSPATH%;path-to/custom.jar" ClassName
[04:41:42] <jeally-bean> i guess i could do it in the run dialog for that Java Application
[04:45:45] <rcjsuen> jeally-bean: Why are you running Java apps from Eclipse anyway?
[04:46:09] <jeally-bean> ah the answer is  just right click the jar in the tree and add it to the build path with the build path context menu
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[04:46:21] <jeally-bean> rcjsuen: why not?
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[04:47:24] <rcjsuen> jeally-bean: Because I just run apps, I don't run said app's programming language's IDE.
[04:47:44] <rcjsuen> I would just open Firefox, I would not open up the Eclipse CDT to run Firefox.
[04:48:33] <jeally-bean> these are .java files i'm editing, building, executing, and debugging with Eclipse...
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[04:49:09] <rcjsuen> jeally-bean: So why don't you just run your java app instead of making a jar and then running that jar?
[04:49:43] <jeally-bean> it's not an app until i compile it. i'm not sure where you're going with this
[04:49:50] <jeally-bean> eclipse is 10x easier than typing the command line version
[04:50:21] <rcjsuen> jeally-bean: Eclipse is always compiling the Java code though, if you have 'Build Automatically' checked.
[04:50:29] <rcjsuen> Project / Build Automatically
[04:50:48] <jeally-bean> ya that's fine. i make changes and then need to rebuild?
[04:50:53] <rcjsuen> It was an app the first time you created a main(String[]) method and saved.
[04:50:59] <rcjsuen> jeally-bean: When you save it rebuilds the necessary parts.
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[04:51:06] <rcjsuen> (Usually that one file, but of course, it depends).
[04:51:25] <jeally-bean> oh i didn't know that bit
[04:51:28] <jeally-bean> so what are you suggesting?
[04:51:35] <jeally-bean> what's easier than clicking the Run button on the toolbar?
[04:51:40] <jeally-bean> once you have your project set up, that is
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[04:51:50] <rcjsuen> it's easy
[04:51:52] <rcjsuen> that is what i do
[04:51:55] <rcjsuen> except i don't make a jar
[04:52:12] <jeally-bean> oh the .jar isn't mine and i don't have the source for it but the example code depends on it
[04:52:42] <rcjsuen> oh, i see
[04:52:43] <rcjsuen> then yeah, that's a diff story
[04:53:33] * jeally-bean is learning by example with "Killer Game Programming in Java": http://fivedots.coe.psu.ac.th/~ad/jg/
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[05:37:42] <Appleman1234> Now my view doesn't crash :)
[05:37:51] <Appleman1234> but my buttons don't show up either :)
[05:37:59] <Appleman1234> Invisible SWT buttons :)
[05:39:03] <Appleman1234> Can anymore point me to more information about the preferred structure of Eclipse Views other than the basic Creating Eclipse Views article ?
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[05:41:03] <Appleman1234> because I have a feeling that Eclipse may have an issue with my externalisation of the creation of the controls in another class
[05:41:38] <Appleman1234> or does SWT have a level of composites inside composites that I don't know about ?
[05:44:43] <the_giver> whats the shortcut for autocomplete in eclipse
[05:44:48] <the_giver> not auto suggest
[05:44:57] <the_giver> but a var i wrote myself.. or method and i need eclipse to finish it for me...
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[05:58:05] <carluva> the_giver: isn't it ctrl+space?
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[06:05:06] <rcjsuen> carluva: I would think so.
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[06:12:48] <pombreda> the_giver: alt / for hippy completion
[06:13:21] <pombreda> ?
[06:13:24] <pombreda> bbl
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[10:34:54] <jonalv> anyone knows anything about table cell editors not working in windows?
[10:36:49] <jonalv> It works perfectly in linux but when I try it on a windows machine the cell editor or cell modifier doesn't seem to close
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[10:41:24] <jonalv> ping
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[11:13:31] <Uranellus> hello, where should I place the java source (the source of java itself) so that eclipse automatically picks it up?
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[11:21:05] <mers> hi folks. i need to standardise eclipse usage throughout a company. this includes workspace settings, plugins, and plugin settings. i was thinking of running a local update site for plugins, but i'm still stumped on how to distribute settings
[11:21:45] <mers> are there any options besides sending around an eclipse configuration file manually?
[11:21:54] <jonalv> mers my guess is taht you could distribute workspaces but there might be abetter solution
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[11:42:16] <gromgull> is this a sensible place to ask about rcp problems? or is there another eclipse-dev channel?
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[11:42:26] <Jimbob2k> hey.
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[11:43:09] <Jimbob2k> is there any build plugin around that presents a simple box in which to edit the commands to use for compilation?
[11:44:07] <Jimbob2k> i.e. I want to run a custom program to make my build..
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[11:59:37] <njbartlett_> gromgull: Yes we discuss RCP in here
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[12:03:11] <gromgull> njbartless_:ok, then: Can anyone explain why my app doesn't start with "java.lang.IllegalStateException: Unable to acquire application service. Ensure that the org.eclipse.core.runtime bundle is resolved and started (see config.ini)." when I add the org.eclipse.equinox.jetty.servlet plugin to my config?
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[12:16:16] <njbartlett_> gromgull: It sounds like some dependency is missing, which is causing the bundle containing your application to fail to start
[12:16:35] <njbartlett_> gromgull: You can analyze the missing dependency using the osgi console. Have you used that before?
[12:17:23] <njbartlett_> PS if you want to get my attention, spell my name right. Then my IRC client icon will bounce and I'll notice you've sent me a message :-)
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[13:13:18] <gromgull> njbartlett_: sorry about the misspelling :) I have used the console, unfortunately I never get there, the application dies with a dialog box "the application could not start. Would you like to view the log?"
[13:13:24] <gromgull> the log contains the exception I mentioned
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[13:33:36] <er4z0r> hi
[13:34:06] <er4z0r> I have an OSGi Question: How can I reset the UserAdminService via Equinox
[13:34:27] <njbartlett_> er4z0r: How do you mean, "reset"
[13:35:28] <er4z0r> I mean how can I remove old user objects
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[13:36:56] <er4z0r> http://pastebin.com/d67f916df
[13:37:09] <er4z0r> that is the way I could do it by code
[13:37:20] <er4z0r> but I would like to do it via the console
[13:38:13] <njbartlett_> Ah okay. I don't know if anybody's written console commands for UserAdmin. You might have to write a command yourself.
[13:38:45] <njbartlett_> However, it's pretty easy to write new commands. Take a look at Chris Aniczszyk's tutorial... let me just find the URL
[13:41:06] <njbartlett_> BTW the code you're using to get the UserAdminService is a little dangerous. Either getServiceReference() or getService() could return null if the service is not currently present.
[13:42:57] <njbartlett_> er4z0r: http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/os-ecl-osgiconsole/index.html
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[13:43:32] <er4z0r> thanks man
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[13:44:28] <gromgull> the startLevel and osgi.bundles.defaultStartLevel... is there something I need to be aware of here? Or can I make up my own system, f.x. can I have startLevel=20, default=19 and distribute my other things between 1 and 19?
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[13:45:50] <havocologe> is there a way to set eclipse to autoindenting my lines ?
[13:47:56] <rcjsuen> havocologe: If the editor supports it, it should usually be doing it already.
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[13:48:04] <rcjsuen> Ctrl+Shift+F is also useful, if it's supported.
[13:48:39] <rcjsuen> Uranellus: You should create a Java project and put it into a Source Folder.
[13:49:18] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: just open your project's properties and create an external tool builder
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[13:54:01] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen : I've got a makefile in the folder which Eclipse seems to be picking up despite the fact I've turned off all other builders except my new one.
[13:54:04] <havocologe> rcjsuen: it does support it but it indents the wrong things.. indenting BEHIND the closing bracket seems kinda strange for me
[13:55:07] <gromgull> njbartlett_: sorry about the misspelling :) - I found the solution - it was something about default start levels and hte start level assigned to org.eclipse.core.runtime
[13:57:38] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen : I think that's because I'm clicking on "Make targets" which is from the CDT? Build Project is not doing anything, any idea why this would be?
[13:58:27] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: "picking up"?
[13:59:49] <rcjsuen> havocologe: Then modify the formatter if you have to.
[14:00:00] <Jimbob2k> yeah, I created the eclipse project in a pre existing source tree where I already have an old Makefile...
[14:01:08] <rcjsuen> if you disable all builders except yours and try to use their builder, it's likely not going to do anything, as you saw
[14:01:31] <njbartlett_> gromgull: Be cautious of relying heavily on start levels. The ideal in OSGi is to have no start-ordering dependencies in your bundles, so any bundle can be started at any time. Of course some legacy or third-party code just can't be made to work that way, so start levels have to exist, but their use should be limited as far as possible.
[14:02:28] <gromgull> yes - we understood this - although faaaar too late :(
[14:02:45] <gromgull> I guess the ideal is to have bundles auto-start their dependencies the first time their functionality is required?
[14:03:06] <gromgull> we usually start everything in the activator... and hope that all dependencies are already started then
[14:04:09] <njbartlett_> gromgull: Usually the pattern is to start some kind of listener for the things you need. For example if you're using services, then use ServiceTracker to tell you when the service you need is available rather than assuming the service must be available when your bundle starts.
[14:04:15] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen : yeah, but "Build Project" would, I have hoped, launch my builder.
[14:05:07] <gromgull> njbartlett_: oh well - next time - we are too close to a deadline now to start chaning things :)
[14:05:17] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen: thing is, I also want to use gdb with it, so I need the project to be a C/C++ project to some extent, I just don't want it to be a Makefile project.
[14:05:58] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: it should, did you try project / clean
[14:06:45] <njbartlett_> gromgull: Understood. You should at least be able to fix it incrementally, i.e. one bundle at a time, rather than Big Bang style.
[14:07:42] <Jimbob2k> rcjsuen : if I want to use GDB server, does that require me to set it as a C/C++ Make Project?
[14:08:13] <gromgull> yes - actually I had kinda expected OSGI to sort out the start order based on the bundle dependencies... but realised that the world was more complicated than I thought
[14:08:25] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: No idea, I don't use the CDT.
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[14:09:34] <njbartlett_> gromgull: Yeah it's a common mistake. Bundle dependencies and bundle activation are two completely separate concepts.
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[14:12:05] <gromgull> thanks for your help
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[15:00:26] <havocologe> how to copy and paste something that is selected in visual mode ?
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[15:10:00] <vanne_> if i want to devel java (JDT), ror (RDT) and php (PDT), is it better to have 3 eclipses installed nex to each other or maintain one big install? will the big setup be slower or waste too much ram?  (i always use subclipse and viplugin as well)
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[15:12:26] <secureT> which kind of code completions are available in netbeans? i know Space+Enter
[15:12:35] <secureT> i mean eclipse of course
[15:13:02] <rcjsuen> there=s also alt+/ i think or something like that
[15:17:57] <paulweb515> ALT+/ is tag completion (sometimes called hippie completion)
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[15:34:28] <robot_jesus> morning peoples
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[15:40:39] <er4z0r> ok got my problem fixed
[15:40:42] <er4z0r> another one
[15:41:55] <er4z0r> I am using RMI + SSL. Currently I provide the parameters for truststore and keystore as parameters (-Djavax.net.ssl.something) in the launch config of my bundles. But how do I do it later, when I deploy them?
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[15:43:52] <Fastfinger> Hi.
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[15:44:23] <Fastfinger> I'm fiddling with tomcat on Eclipse Europa. Trying to figure out how to use my applications context.xml. Its being ignored.
[15:44:59] <Fastfinger> Eclipse just creates a context.xml line of its own in the server.xml on deploy time.
[15:45:06] <Fastfinger> Instead of honouring context.xml that is.
[15:45:19] <Fastfinger> I need to set up some <Resource> bindings to my databases..
[15:52:35] <Fastfinger> Hmm, the eclipse wtp tomcat faq actually states that it should happen automagically if my context.xml file is in the META-INF dir..
[15:52:46] <Fastfinger> *scratch*
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[16:17:45] <rcjsuen> er4z0r: Think you might be able to set those in the jar file, not sure.
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[16:31:51] <railbait> Man that Omondo UML plugin crashes left and right. Is there a better alternative?
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[16:35:31] <robot_jesus> poseidon
[16:35:40] <robot_jesus> been around for a while
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[16:52:25] <gromgull> Does anyone know of a page where I can see the images defined by ISharedImages?
[16:52:53] <rcjsuen> gromgull: not me, they're all pretty straightforward imo :x
[16:53:08] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: ping Ians
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[16:56:18] <gromgull> Hmm... ISharedImages only actually define a quite small number of images...
[16:56:34] <gromgull> http://help.eclipse.org/help32/topic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.user/reference/ref-68.htm?resultof=%22%69%6d%61%67%65%73%22%20%22%69%6d%61%67%22%20
[16:56:37] <gromgull> this page has many more
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[16:57:19] <rcjsuen> Well, not every one is "public API" per se.
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[17:07:28] <d_a_carver> Ians: ping
[17:07:53] <Ians> hi
[17:08:20] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: he's here
[17:08:37] <d_a_carver> Ians: Hey...I was told you were the person to see about industry verticals and eclipse, I'm with the STAR organization and we have a general session comming up in which we are looking for a possible keynot speaker.
[17:09:37] <Ians> can you send me an e-mail with the details  (ian at eclipse dot org).  I'd love to help
[17:10:29] <d_a_carver> Ians: Okay, I'll put you in contact with the people working it out.   Just so you know the GS is February 7th, so I know it's short notice, but we also have another one in October
[17:10:41] <Ians> ok
[17:11:09] <d_a_carver> Ians: but I'll put you in contact with the people that can get you more info.
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[17:15:58] <d_a_carver> Ians: should be receiving something from Ghezal Khalili at least, she's our admin.  Just sent you the email.
[17:16:08] <d_a_carver> Ians: let me know if I can get you any more info.
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[17:25:11] <jm2> I'm trying to access a workspace mounted over a samba share, but when I start eclipse it just dies.  Anyone run into this before?
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[17:37:02] <jamiejackson> when you change a file's encoding from, say ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8 in eclipse, does that do anything to the file itself?
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[17:37:53] <jamiejackson> i saw it do something when switching to UTF-16, but not between those two (BOM-less?) formats
[17:38:11] <aikie> is there anyone here involved in PDT?
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[17:42:52] <jamiejackson> does it just not let you save any utf characters?
[17:43:17] <jamiejackson> if eclipse knows it as an ISO-8859-1, that is?
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[17:47:37] <jamiejackson> is there a better channel in which to ask these questions, btw?
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[17:49:30] <kirkt> hey ppl. i was developing my plugin using PDE and the host eclipse, and now after exporting it to jar, trying it on a fresh eclipse, it doesnt really work
[17:49:45] <kirkt> i dont have error log so i also can't see whats wrong
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[17:59:58] <kirkt> anyone?
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[18:03:09] <jwisher> I'm getting error msg "October
[18:03:09] <jwisher> <Ians> ok
[18:03:12] <jwisher> oops
[18:03:19] <jwisher> well, that didn't copy.
[18:03:43] <jwisher> the error is "The preferences for the xdoclet runtime does not point to a valid installation"
[18:04:06] <jwisher> I set the preferences to point to the folder where i unzipped xdoclet though
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[18:05:16] <jwisher> in the preferences it says, "Missing library: xdoclet-1.2.1.jar"
[18:05:22] <jwisher> but the file is there, :|
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[18:07:06] <jwisher> oh nevermind, it is because it is version 1.2.3!
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[18:24:33] <jamiejackson> i've found that eclipse only saves some meta-data in the .settings folder for utf-8 and iso-8859-1 encodings. it does nothing to the file itself (answering my own question from earlier)
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[18:35:29] <kirkt> rcjsuen not here today?
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[18:39:19] <robot_jesus> i saw him earlier
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[18:48:27] <rcjsuen> kirkt: what do you mean "doesn't really work"
[18:48:55] <rcjsuen> jamiejackson: I've heard similar observations in the past.
[18:50:17] <kirkt> wb rcjsuen
[18:50:29] <kirkt> it can't find the activator class for some reason
[18:51:06] <rcjsuen> kirkt: I thought you said there was nothing in the error logs.
[18:51:44] <kirkt> no i said i didnt have an errorlog on it, i moved it to an eclipse host that did
[18:52:28] <rcjsuen> your build.properties and/or MANIFEST.MF file is properly incorrect
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[18:54:33] <kirkt> http://rafb.net/p/JbL6vV50.html
[18:54:53] <kirkt> http://rafb.net/p/fUMPu279.html
[18:55:06] <kirkt> these are the manifest and build.properties
[18:55:07] <rcjsuen> Bundle-ClassPath: /, bin/, lib/whw1.0.jar > Bundle-ClassPath: ., lib/whw1.0.jar
[18:55:14] <njbartlett_> The bundle-classpath looks odd
[18:55:19] <kirkt> ah.. the dot!.
[18:55:26] <rcjsuen> njbartlett_: Hi Neil
[18:55:29] <njbartlett_> The first entry shouldn't be /, it should be dot
[18:55:32] <njbartlett_> Hi Remy
[18:56:05] <kirkt> still doesnt work :(
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[18:56:45] <iAmHaris_> Hello
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[18:56:56] <rcjsuen> kirkt: add . in your bin.includes
[18:56:56] <iAmHaris_> Does anyone here know how to profile PHP code in Eclipse PDT?
[18:57:08] <iAmHaris_> xdebug
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[18:59:19] <rcjsuen> iAmHaris_: Might want to try the PDT newsgroup.
[18:59:19] <kirkt> where is bin.inclues ?
[18:59:32] <rcjsuen> kirkt: Your build.properties file?
[18:59:47] <rcjsuen>                tools/,\ (newline) .
[18:59:48] <iAmHaris_> rcjsuen, help?
[18:59:53] <iAmHaris_> rcjsuen, whats the link?
[19:00:17] <kirkt> added it, didn't work =\
[19:00:20] <rcjsuen> iAmHaris_: I don't know it offhand, google can probably help you.
[19:00:31] <rcjsuen> ~newsgroup
[19:00:31] <KOS-MOS> Try asking for help on the newsgroups - http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/
[19:01:09] <rcjsuen> kirkt: what is jars.compile.order for
[19:01:16] <iAmHaris_> KOS-MOS, thanks.
[19:01:32] <kirkt> no idea, it just was there. i used the plugin template wizard
[19:01:59] <rcjsuen> Well, I guess that's not really a problem, if it was you wouldn't be able to build the plug-in.
[19:02:03] <kirkt> removed it.. still no work
[19:02:35] <rcjsuen> try adding source.. = src/
[19:02:38] <rcjsuen> Although probably irrelevant.
[19:03:05] <njbartlett_> kirkt: Does this work if you launch direct from Eclipse, rather than building and then running the build output?
[19:03:12] <kirkt> njbartlett_ yes
[19:03:21] <kirkt> wait
[19:03:24] <njbartlett_> Ah then it's definitely the build.properties
[19:03:35] <kirkt> it only works when i launch it from PDE i mean, using the host eclipse
[19:03:48] <kirkt> but when i export to jar and put it in some other eclipse plugins dir, it doesnt work
[19:03:50] <njbartlett_> Yeah that's what I thought
[19:03:53] <rcjsuen> Yes, it is odd that fixing Bundle-ClassPath didn't solve the problem.
[19:04:19] <njbartlett_> Yeah you need "source.. = src/" in build.properties
[19:04:53] <njbartlett_> rcjsuen: Actually I think Bundle-ClassPath was a red herring. It runs fine from the Eclipse launcher, so there's nothing wrong with the manifest. It's the build that's fauly.
[19:05:29] <rcjsuen> njbartlett_: mm, you don't think / is a problem?
[19:05:36] <kirkt> njbartlett_ added src/, didnt work
[19:05:49] <rcjsuen> kirkt: Pastebin both files again.
[19:05:52] <njbartlett_> kirkt: Could you pastebin your build.properties again, just so we can check?
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[19:05:54] <rcjsuen> So we see what they look like now.
[19:06:19] <kirkt> yes
[19:06:35] <kirkt> http://rafb.net/p/OD9SnA12.html
[19:06:51] <kirkt> i added the bin/ just to be sure too
[19:07:38] <njbartlett_> Hmm that looks fine. Is the source file for your activator class under src/?
[19:07:49] <kirkt> sec
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[19:08:27] <kirkt> my activator is inside src/com/paracode/msc/Activator
[19:08:32] <kirkt> my activator is inside src/com/paracode/msc/Activator.class
[19:08:44] <rcjsuen> kirkt: How many third-party jar files do you have, where are they located
[19:09:00] <kirkt> they're all in /lib
[19:09:09] <njbartlett_> kirkt: Did you pastebin the log already? Sorry I missed the start of this thread.
[19:09:20] <kirkt> which log?
[19:09:22] <kirkt> errorlog ?
[19:09:25] <njbartlett_> Yeah
[19:09:32] <kirkt> no, i will in a sec
[19:09:37] <njbartlett_> Thanks
[19:10:00] <rcjsuen> try adding > jars.compile.order = lib/x.jar\, lib/y.jar\, [etc etc]\, .
[19:10:07] <kirkt> http://rafb.net/p/d4icI261.html
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[19:11:12] <njbartlett_> kirkt: Can you have a look inside the JAR that gets built by the export. Check that com/paracode/msc/Activator.class exists
[19:12:05] <rcjsuen> just use jar -tf x.jar | grep Activator
[19:12:23] <kirkt> its under bin/com/paracode/msc/Activator.class
[19:12:34] <njbartlett_> Aha. Well that "bin" shouldn't be there
[19:12:45] <rcjsuen> ah
[19:12:54] <kirkt> but thats what eclipse makes
[19:13:09] <njbartlett_> Yeah let's try to work out why...
[19:13:09] <rcjsuen> kirkt: remove the bin,\ in bin.includes
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[19:14:35] <kirkt> i did output.. = /
[19:14:35] <kirkt> it placed everything under com/paracode/msc now, but it still doesnt work
[19:14:53] <rcjsuen> pastebin your manifest.mf
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[19:15:54] <njbartlett_> kirkt: I'm going to try to replicate your problem here. Give me a few mins.
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[19:16:52] <kirkt> http://rafb.net/p/9OKRfx41.html
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[19:19:02] <njbartlett_> kirkt: Hmm. I can't seem to make it fail the same way, but I have another idea.
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[19:22:29] <kirkt> moment im trying to clean and build everything
[19:23:28] <njbartlett_> kirkt: Sorry, no idea at the moment. I have set a project up basically the same way you have it and it works fine. And I have to go now... will take a look later if you're online
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[19:30:10] <kirkt> njbartlett_ thanks alot
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[19:37:39] <ziofabbri> hello
[19:37:42] <ziofabbri> guys
[19:37:49] <ziofabbri> one question
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[19:38:30] <ziofabbri> when i try to open a file from a folder, instad open it on the instance of ecplise i've already open , it opens anoter one and give me an error
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[19:40:49] <ziofabbri> ?
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[19:59:15] <kaje1> I've imported a project into Eclipse and I need to organize my directories so that all my code is in /java/myproject/library/codefile.java. However, the problem is that all my code already imports from packages that look like myproject.library.codefile (notice the missing "java" root). Is there some setting I can change so that I don't have to go through an alter all of my import statements?
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[20:02:30] <nitind> kaje1: Go into the project's Properties dialog and modify the Build Path so that "java" is a source folder instead of the project itself.
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[20:05:21] <ziofabbri> when i try to open a file from a folder, instad open it on the instance of ecplise i've already open , it opens anoter one and give me an error
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[20:10:14] <kaje1> nitind: Thanks! That fixed my import statements, but my package statements still seem to be broken. When I hover over the red underline it says the expected package was java.myproject.library.codefile...
[20:10:18] <Rayaken> hi, i stilled got my problems with writing my own editor. i got FormEditor and added an AbstractDecoratedTextEditor and a FormPage to it in addPages() of the editor. i want to set the editor to dirty if i changed something on my form page. so i used firePropertyChange(PROP_DIRTY); in my form page after changing something in the form but the editor does not has the asterik * at the label of the editor. isDirty() of the editor isn't even called then. what
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[20:12:55] <SveinT> I can't get libraries to be included when using CDT (c++) in eclipse in linux. I have added the library, and /usr/include is in my left view but yet the compiler says it can't find the lib (gtk-2.0). Any ideas?
[20:13:17] <SveinT> ../test.cpp:1:21: warning: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory
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[20:15:47] <kaje1> nitind: nevermind, I think I just needed to give it more time to catch the change, thanks for the help!
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[20:21:35] <ChrisRecoskie> SveinT:  that's G++ complaining... you'll have to make sure the include path is setup right in your build settings
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[20:37:27] <kirkt> do i need to explicitly select the bin directory in the build tab of manifest.mf ?
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[20:42:28] <markluffel> is anyone familiar with making a site.xml file to provide updates for plugins?
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[20:48:00] <kirkt> HELLPP
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[20:55:23] <rcjsuen> ziofabbr: opening another Eclipse?
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[20:56:01] <rcjsuen> kaje1: When you think you fixed the problem, try Project / Clean so that it does a rebuild, that should remove any stale/old warnings/errors.
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[20:57:05] <rcjsuen> Rayaken: getManagedForm().dirtyStateChanged()?
[20:57:35] <rcjsuen> I would not recommend you change isDirty() directly.
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[20:58:13] <Zerone> ello :)
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[20:58:46] <rcjsuen> or actually, maybe you should call dirtyStateChanged() and then it'll check isDirty(), or something
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[20:59:07] <rcjsuen> kirkt: No, you don't.
[20:59:08] <Zerone> ello rcjsuen :)
[20:59:11] <rcjsuen> Zerone: Hi
[21:01:39] <kirkt> rcjsuen: im still working on that problem.. any more ideas or where to concentrate effort ?
[21:02:02] <rcjsuen> kirkt: What does your files look like now
[21:02:18] <rcjsuen> ChrisRecoskie: Interesting thread bug there
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[21:03:26] <kirkt> http://rafb.net/p/3ff4yT27.html
[21:03:42] <kirkt> http://rafb.net/p/Rtos7C75.html
[21:04:01] <rcjsuen> You can post them both in one file next time btw ;p
[21:04:15] <rcjsuen> can you pastebin jar -tf yourplugin.jar
[21:04:25] <kirkt> oh, ok
[21:04:41] <rcjsuen> Might as well save some bandwidth on submitting the form multiple times. ;)
[21:05:25] <kirkt> sec
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[21:08:34] <kirkt> http://rafb.net/p/pFqb7a96.html
[21:08:35] <robot_jesus> hmm, how can I put in a request to the WTP people ?
[21:08:47] <ChrisRecoskie> rcjsuen:  Yeah I haven't figured it out yet.
[21:08:56] <robot_jesus> this god damn thing is constantly asking me to refresh the project, why doesn't it just do it itself for gods sake
[21:08:58] <rcjsuen> robot_jesus: File a bug under the web tools product
[21:09:10] <robot_jesus> ~WTP
[21:09:13] <robot_jesus> ~wtp
[21:09:14] <KOS-MOS> Check out Eclipse's Web Tools Platform - http://www.eclipse.org/wtp/
[21:09:14] <rcjsuen> kirkt: So it is still making that bin/ I see.
[21:09:37] <kirkt> rcjsuen: yes ive moved it back and forth out and into /bin several times
[21:09:42] <kirkt> i can move it out again
[21:10:00] <rcjsuen> Oh, you mean it fails even without bin/?
[21:10:03] <kirkt> yes
[21:10:16] <rcjsuen> Same error?
[21:10:30] <kirkt> btw every time i need to mark the checkbox in the build tab to include the bin dir, otherwise it won't show in the jar
[21:10:32] <kirkt> yes, same error
[21:11:39] <rcjsuen> The only checkboxes I have on the 'Binary Build' side is META-INF, icons, and plugin.xml.
[21:12:57] <kirkt> then for me it would only include those files.. maybe thats the source of the problem "?
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[21:13:18] <kirkt> on the right side i have nothing selected btw
[21:14:19] <rcjsuen> Yes, same here.
[21:14:29] <rcjsuen> this is my simple build file
[21:14:35] <kirkt> this way it just makes a 27kb jar instead of 2.5mb jar
[21:14:49] <rcjsuen> source.. = src/ (newline) output.. = bin/ (newline) bin.includes = META-INF/,\ (newline)                .,\(newline)                plugin.xml,\(newline)                icons/
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[21:16:35] <kirkt> nope it wont include any binary class that way
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[21:17:10] <kirkt> but i just created a new plugin and its like you say.. i'll try to find the differences
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[21:18:28] <secureT> how to replace a certain string in all files of a project, is this possible?
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[21:20:46] <markluffel> is there any documentation on what adding an "associateSitesURL" attribute to an update site xml file should do
[21:20:57] <markluffel> only thing i can find is "optional URL that points to the xml file that lists sites that should be open at the same time as this site"
[21:20:58] <ijuma> secureT: Search -> File
[21:21:13] <ijuma> if it can't be refactored
[21:22:10] <secureT> where is search?
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[21:24:16] <rcjsuen> On the top, the search menu
[21:24:17] <kirkt> rcjsuen nope, no binaries get included if i dont explicitly select it
[21:24:34] <rcjsuen> kirkt: Binaries? You mean your third-party jars?
[21:24:42] <StrangeCharm_> where's the plugins dir for 3.2.2 on ubunutu?
[21:24:46] <kirkt> no, i mean my compiled classes
[21:25:17] <rcjsuen> StrangeCharm_: I think in /usr/lib/eclipse/plugins or something maybe. Did you try in #ubuntu?
[21:25:33] <StrangeCharm_> i asked in there at the same time as i asked in here
[21:25:36] <StrangeCharm_> i'll try that
[21:26:09] <markluffel> is there an irc channel for eclipse plugin development?
[21:26:14] <rcjsuen> But I wouldn't recommend you use Ubuntu's Eclipse packages.
[21:26:17] <rcjsuen> markluffel: This one.
[21:26:35] <StrangeCharm_> thanks rcjsuen - you were right
[21:27:26] <markluffel> rcjsuen: have you made an eclipse update site before? i'm trying to figure out how to reference other update sites
[21:27:33] <rcjsuen> markluffel: Nope, I don't do releng.
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[21:27:48] <rcjsuen> kirkt: What do you mean by explicitly select it
[21:27:52] <rcjsuen> Explicitly select what, the bin/ folder you mean?
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[21:28:08] <kirkt> rcjsuen check the checkbox for the 'bin' folder
[21:28:09] <StrangeCharm_> rcjsuen - why not?
[21:28:10] <rcjsuen> kirkt: Why did you add com/ in your build.properties file? > http://rafb.net/p/3ff4yT27.html
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[21:28:21] <rcjsuen> StrangeCharm_: Because people come in here with problems quite often.
[21:28:46] <StrangeCharm_> might that not say something about ubuntu users rather than the packages?
[21:29:10] <rcjsuen> StrangeCharm_: It could be both.
[21:29:26] <markluffel> rcjsuen: do you know someone in the channel who does releng that I can ask?
[21:29:37] <rcjsuen> StrangeCharm_: But no, I don't get the impression that it is the user's fault.
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[21:29:54] <rcjsuen> markluffel: Not me.
[21:30:09] <b0r3d> hi. how can I hide dependent project libs ?
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[21:30:20] <b0r3d> so they don't show up in the project tree
[21:30:28] <StrangeCharm_> fair enough, rcjsuen, i'll consider myself warned
[21:30:30] <rcjsuen> You create a filter for it somehow I s'pose.
[21:30:31] <kirkt> rcjsuen i guess it was one of the tries where i moved everything out of /bin, and check the checkbox for com
[21:31:00] <kirkt> when i check the folder, it adds the entry to build.properties
[21:31:09] <rcjsuen> Yes, don't check it.
[21:31:14] <markluffel> rcjsuen: ok, sorry to bug you,  it just seems like there must be somewhere better to ask my question, any idea?
[21:31:20] <rcjsuen> markluffel: Try the newsgroups.
[21:31:44] <kirkt> rcjsuen:ok, now i got a jar with no class files in it
[21:32:41] <rcjsuen> add the source.. = src/ - output.. = bin/ lines
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[21:33:14] <kirkt> they're there
[21:33:27] <b0r3d> hi. how to hide project libs in Eclipse so they don't show up in the project tree?
[21:33:42] <rcjsuen> b0r3d: You create a filter for it somehow I s'pose.
[21:33:47] <b0r3d> ok
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[21:36:24] <secureT> rcjsuen: ups i was in wrong channel i wanted netbeans to replace   (in netbeans there only find)
[21:37:08] <rcjsuen> kirkt: http://rafb.net/p/q9vRrf29.html
[21:38:43] <kirkt> rcjsuen: works!!!
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[21:38:54] <kirkt> how the hell?
[21:39:00] <rcjsuen> njbartlett_: ^
[21:39:29] <njbartlett_> Woohoo
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[21:39:59] <kirkt> what was wrong ?
[21:40:12] <rcjsuen> Now to go wash some rice so I can eat a late lunch.
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[21:41:53] <kirkt> ah
[21:41:58] <kirkt> it was the pesky dot again
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[21:42:22] <kirkt> thanks rcjsuen!
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[21:46:42] <Sukh0i> rcjsuen: Good appetite :)
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[21:56:24] <secureT> however in netbeans it's possible to replace all
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[22:12:06] <secureT> now i found the feature in netbeans too
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[22:20:42] <sanguisdex> oh eclipse noob here, I added an existing file system to eclise as a project, but where ever includes are present it can't find existing files
[22:21:08] <sanguisdex> also when ever I click on a tab for an open file it opes a save dialog
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[22:28:27] <rcjsuen> ~tell sanguisdex about info
[22:28:28] <KOS-MOS> sanguisdex: Please state your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), your Java runtime environment (unless you checked in your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, you do not know _for sure_, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), your Eclipse version, and where did you download Eclipse from.
[22:29:23] <robot_jesus> sanguisdex: CDT ?
[22:29:31] <robot_jesus> you should add plugin to that info thing ;)
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[22:30:42] <sanguisdex> oh eclipse noob here, I added an existing file system to eclipse as a project, but where ever includes are present it can't find existing files.  My system is and x86 running on linux, it is a brand new classic downlaod and I am running jre 6
[22:30:50] <sanguisdex> better?
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[22:33:18] <sanguisdex> robot_jebus: what's a CDT ?
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[22:35:22] <dominikg> sanguisdex, you are talking about includes, so he asked if you are using cdt ( c/c++ ide for eclipse)
[22:35:47] <sanguisdex> no it's the php
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[22:37:50] <Jimbob2k> hey guys, I want to make my eclipse recognize another file extension as being an executable so I can debug it, anybody got any pointers for this?
[22:38:41] <SveinT> can anyone help me setting up c++ lib in eclipse using linux?
[22:40:13] <SveinT> ../test.cpp:1:21: warning: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory
[22:40:24] <SveinT> although I think I have included it
[22:41:33] <SveinT> works when compiling using terminal
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[22:43:12] <rcjsuen> sanguisdex: PHPEclipse? PDT?
[22:43:31] <rcjsuen> Jimbob2k: You probably can't do that easily.
[22:43:36] <sanguisdex> rcjsuen: phpEclipse
[22:44:32] <rcjsuen> sanguisdex: check with #phpeclipse or their mailing list on sourceforge, could be a bug
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[22:44:40] <rcjsuen> if you have a simple test case, file a bug
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[22:57:59] <ulfdoz> tptp claims "RAServer is already running with pid 18263", but there is no process with this id. Where is that information stored?
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[22:59:00] <er4z0r> hi there
[22:59:32] <er4z0r> I know this is an OSGi specific question, but you guys seems to be the best resource for osgi-infos
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[23:00:29] <er4z0r> I need to pass parameters about keystore and truststore to my application. I currently do that via -Djavax.net.ssl.trustStore=something in my launch-config
[23:00:48] <er4z0r> however I am not sure how to do this when my app is running outside eclipse
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[23:01:26] <rcjsuen> Well, how are you running it outside of Eclipse?
[23:01:51] <rcjsuen> It's just a VM argument, no different from typing 'java -Dmy.property=true com.company.abc.MyMainClass'
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[23:04:25] <nitind> As long as you specified that in the VM parameters field, it's the same.
[23:04:30] <tomsontom> paulweb515_: can I bother you once more with Command-Framework / Evaluation questions?
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[23:07:04] <tomsontom> blupin: did you had time too review my API changes in ~215069
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[23:11:37] <rcjsuen> er4z0r: See above ^
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[23:34:49] <ulfdoz> Whoever packaged tptp should be forced to use some *nix.
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[23:48:18] <ulfdoz> wow, it suddenly happened to work.
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[23:52:18] <ulfdoz> DIE SCHEISSE GAYT!
[23:52:21] <ulfdoz> ECHAN, sorry
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[23:55:45] <codeRat> hi. anyone here uses JformDesigner?
[23:56:17] <unlord> hi
[23:56:39] <unlord> I'm using WTP 2.0 and the Deployment Descriptor node disappears for no reason
[23:56:53] <codeRat> I can't change the lookandfeel.. :(
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[23:59:37] <InsomniaCity> Is there any way to stop JST from stepping into certain classes? Kinda like visual studio.

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