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[00:16:04] <TheShield> hi
[00:16:34] <rcjsuen> TheShield: Hi
[00:17:37] <TheShield> I just installed eclipse latest. While playing with some include files it seems code assist does not look into cascaded included. While looking foran answer on the internet I found that I have to enable "Search current file and included files" but I don't have such option. Any idea what I'm doing wrong here?
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[00:19:39] <TheShield> like #include <a.h> which includes b.h code assist does not see defines of b.h file
[00:19:53] <TheShield> is this normal and I am asking for too much?
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[00:23:41] <TheShield> also browsing help shows a pciture of the project settings but below there is a description of other window. "To change the scope from which Content Assist retrieves its proposals, select either Search current file and included files or Search current project by selecting the appropriate the radio button. " There is no such radio button
[00:23:44] <rcjsuen> Sorry, I don't do C/C++, no idea.
[00:24:34] <zx> try the CDT newsgroups, I do believe there are different settings in CDT when it comes to code completion
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[00:27:02] <TheShield> so I guess you do java
[00:27:29] <TheShield> do you have such option under project setting/content assist? "To change the scope from which Content Assist retrieves its proposals, select either Search current file and included files or Search current project by selecting the appropriate the radio button. "
[00:27:56] <TheShield> to save me downloading 100Mb just to see that
[00:27:57] <rcjsuen> It's whatever's on my project's classpath.
[00:28:36] <zx> maybe right clicking on a project and hitting properties exposes some settings?
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[00:31:50] <TheShield> hm
[00:32:04] <TheShield> tried to enable full indexing of files and it seems to work now
[00:32:13] <rcjsuen> The classpath would be the "scope".
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[01:40:57] <njbartlett_> Anybody interested in a Scala BOF at EclipseCon?
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[01:42:52] <INTz> has anyone had problems with eclipse saving source files in windows vista...for one of my projects, eclipse says that access is denied...but permissions are set correctly...
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[02:11:27] <caminante> hell0
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[02:12:36] <caminante> i'm about to start working with PDT on Eclipse for the first time
[02:13:29] <caminante> and i can't uncheck the "Break at First Line" option in the preferences under PHP > Debug
[02:13:43] <caminante> any known alternative to uncheck it?
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[02:36:25] <rcjsuen> caminante: that usually means no one knows that's around knows the answer
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[02:36:30] <rcjsuen> if no one answers
[02:36:39] <rcjsuen> caminante: I'd try the pdt newsgroup if I were you.
[02:37:29] <caminante> ok, thanks
[02:45:38] <rcjsuen> caminante: The behaviour sounds like a bug though if you can't "uncheck" it.
[02:45:44] <rcjsuen> ~tell caminante about bugs
[02:45:48] <rcjsuen> oh wait, bot down
[02:45:54] <rcjsuen> caminante: Check Eclipse bugzilla.
[02:46:09] <caminante> ok
[02:46:36] <caminante> i mean, it can be unchecked, but when i press OK
[02:46:48] <caminante> it keeps breaking at first line
[02:47:01] <caminante> and if i go again to preferences it is checked again!
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[06:56:32] <ipe_> Hi. I just started eclipse 20 minuntes ago. It has been doing something ever since.. writing something on the disk. Is it a bug or what is it doing?
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[07:04:49] <ipe_> it was trackerd
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[07:38:49] <OmiKrOn> hi *
[07:39:10] <OmiKrOn> any ideea why debugging doesn`t stops at a defined breakpoint using PDT?
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[10:29:27] <kodmanyagha> hi everyobdy
[10:29:58] <kodmanyagha> im using suse
[10:30:19] <kodmanyagha> and desktop environment is gnome
[10:30:29] <kodmanyagha> I want install eclipse
[10:30:36] <kodmanyagha> suse 10.3 (64bit)
[10:30:52] <kodmanyagha> how I install eclipse please help friends :S
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[10:48:48] <dominikg> ~tell kodmanyagha about linux-install
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[10:51:08] <dominikg> *sigh* looks like KOS-MOS isn't there :/ okies.. kodmanyagha go to www.eclipse.org/downloads and get the 64-bit linux gtk package of your choice. make sure you have at least java5 and its a 'real' vm like suns
[10:52:40] <dominikg> http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#How_do_I_install_Eclipse_on_Linux.3F
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[10:58:53] <kodmanyagha> I downloaded eclipse-platform-SDK-3.1.1-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz file
[10:59:15] <kodmanyagha> and I extracted it from gnome
[10:59:34] <kodmanyagha> didn't use terminal
[11:00:22] <kodmanyagha> is this have a problem?
[11:00:35] <dominikg> don't think so
[11:01:54] <dominikg> but are you sure about that filename? SDK-3.1.1 3.1 is over 2 years old. The latest release is 3.3.1.1
[11:05:03] <kodmanyagha> this is a problem probably  :)
[11:05:22] <kodmanyagha> I'm download latest version ago :)
[11:09:13] <kodmanyagha> thank you dominikg
[11:10:18] <dominikg> np (:
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[11:35:33] <mk> my occurences annotation~ by the scrollbar is broken, they don't appear when placing the cursor over something
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[11:42:14] <cook63> Un Saluto a Tutte Le Anime!
[11:42:18] <cook63> !list
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[13:14:01] <rcjsuen> dominikg: Yeah, went down for some reasons, I will reboot her later today.
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[13:17:22] <Imaginativeone> how do I rebuild my project?
[13:17:31] <rcjsuen> Imaginativeone: Project / Clean
[13:17:36] <Imaginativeone> thanks!
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[14:41:33] <secureT> i downloaded jad eclipse plugin. How to install it now?
[14:43:42] <rcjsuen> what did you download? a jar file? a zip file?
[14:44:22] <secureT> jar  just copy it to plugin directory?
[14:44:48] <rcjsuen> yes, and then restart with -clean
[14:45:50] <secureT> k
[14:46:50] <secureT> tank you
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[15:08:56] <awj> I'm having some trouble getting a keybinding enabled in my view.  I think I must be missing a step.
[15:09:19] <awj> I've got a command created, and a binding for it.
[15:09:38] <awj> I've got the action already added in a popup menu
[15:09:59] <awj> And the keybinding is showing up (thanks to the command definition).
[15:10:56] <awj> But the actual keybinding still isn't working.
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[15:19:25] <rcjsuen> awj: Did you set a context scope for the binding?
[15:20:42] <awj> I did.  And have the context enabled via ((IContextService)getSite().getService(IContextService.class)).activateContext("mycontext")
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[15:22:09] <rcjsuen> Did you create a handler?
[15:22:37] <awj> I didn't.
[15:23:17] <rcjsuen> oh, wait, I see what you mean
[15:23:23] <rcjsuen> Haven't tried that before personally.
[15:23:42] <rcjsuen> I guess you might still need a IHandler implementation.
[15:23:49] <awj> Wasn't sure whether I had to.  I was looking for examples, and in org.eclipse.jdt.debug.ui, it didn't appear that any handlers were defined.
[15:24:31] <rcjsuen> Well, that's the old way.
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[15:33:13] <awj> I'm a bit confused about how to map the handler to the original action.
[15:33:37] <awj> Or should I forget about the original action definition, and just have a handler?
[15:34:10] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[15:34:40] <rcjsuen> awj: I recommend you try asking on the eclipse.platform newsgroup, paulweb515_ will be able to help you there.
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[15:34:55] <awj> Will do.  Thanks for the tip.
[15:35:45] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: Added this to CVS on Friday. http://imagebin.ca/img/ajFlfP.jpg
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[15:49:50] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: ah so that is the content assist stuff you were asking about earlier in the week.
[15:50:15] <rcjsuen> yes, the "javadoc popup"
[15:50:49] <d_a_carver> do you guys only handle c# code now or does it also handle vb.net?
[15:52:56] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: only C#, we don't have a VB.NET "parser" (to create the 'Outline' view)
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[15:54:06] <rcjsuen> The code completion is still primitive on the C# side. Since if you did like 'this.ToString().', you'd get nothing since we don't currently analyze the return type of ToString() ~.~
[15:54:43] <rcjsuen> at least for parsed DLLs we do give you "tab" capabilities for jumping across parameters (like what JDT does), though we don't do the context information hover
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[15:55:39] <d_a_carver> well it's still a lot farther than most C# editors for Eclipse I have seen.
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[15:58:16] <Sukh0i> Did anyone ever had anything to do with java apps that communicate with terminal apps?
[15:58:28] <Sukh0i> Any info would be good ;)
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[16:20:13] <rcjsuen> Sukh0i: best to elaborate on your need and/or ask in ##java
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[16:25:34] <dondani> how can I add an environment variable for Ant to pick up?
[16:25:35] <dondani> I've tried adding it to my builder configuration, in the Environment tab, but it doesn't seem to work
[16:25:47] <dondani> <property name="lib.home" value="${env.METRO_HOME}/lib" />
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[16:52:55] <Sukh0i> You need to be identified to join that channel
[17:10:51] <rcjsuen> Sukh0i: so identify yourself / register your nickname and then id yourself
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[17:32:58] <Archie1> Anyone knows if eclipse has a feature to clean the cache/memory/buffer?
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[17:50:46] <Badman> hey
[17:50:55] <Badman> I have a problem to run eclipse
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[17:51:42] <Badman> here is the log file http://pastebin.ca/853493
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[17:51:51] <martinkli>  http://pastebin.ca/853493
[17:51:54] <martinkli> sorry
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[17:52:40] <Badman> martinkli, ?
[17:53:20] <martinkli> Badman: have you just installed it or did it work before?
[17:53:35] <Badman> it was working
[17:53:43] <Badman> for months
[17:54:06] <Badman> it just crashed suddenly
[17:54:26] <martinkli> have you performed an update or something?
[17:54:39] <Badman> and when I want to run it, I get the error message inviting me to see the log
[17:54:44] <Badman> nothing
[17:55:41] <martinkli> have you tried starting with -clean?
[17:55:51] <Badman> eclipse -clean
[17:55:56] <martinkli> yes
[17:56:01] <Badman> yes, but the same result
[17:56:13] <Badman> it does change nothing
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[17:57:22] <martinkli> there is some wrong character in the log in the file extension which should read .jar, but the "j" is some asian looking character, at least here for me
[17:58:02] <martinkli> in this path: C:\Program Files\eclipse\plugins\org.eclipse.update.configurator_3.2.101.R33x_v20070810..ar
[17:58:20] <martinkli> there should be ".jar" at the end
[17:58:43] <martinkli> maybe this causes a problem, but it's just a try...
[17:59:16] <martinkli> I'd try to rename this file and replace the file extension
[17:59:21] <Badman> I don't see j
[17:59:26] <Badman> where to change that?
[17:59:41] <martinkli> err - in the windows explorer?
[17:59:42] <Badman> I see the same thing as you
[18:00:17] <Badman> is there something to configure in eclipse?
[18:00:27] <martinkli> just rename the file
[18:00:28] <Badman> to have j and not the strange character
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[18:00:58] <Badman> files are having jar's
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[18:01:38] <martinkli> maybe the explorer doesn't show the problem
[18:02:09] <martinkli> just perform the rename, delete the .whatever and type .jar
[18:02:42] <Badman> you are right
[18:02:48] <Badman> I find the file
[18:03:03] <Badman> this file exactly wasn't have the jar extension
[18:03:12] <Badman> I renamed it
[18:03:18] <Badman> but I still get the error
[18:03:33] <martinkli> even with -clean?
[18:04:08] <Badman> http://pastebin.ca/853508
[18:04:13] <Badman> this time
[18:04:17] <Badman> will try with clean
[18:04:42] <dominikg> there is something severely wrong with your eclipse installation if files have been renamed. i suggest you check the md5 of your installation archive, if you don't have that anymore, redownload from eclipse.org and do a clean installation in a fresh directory
[18:05:25] <Badman> martinkli, even with clean
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[18:07:01] <Badman> dominikg, I prefer resolve the problem, since there is nothing to make me sure if I make a fresh installation everything will work fine
[18:07:02] <martinkli> Badman: I can only repeat dominikg's suggestion, there must be something wrong with your complete installation
[18:07:26] <Badman> so it's the best solution
[18:07:47] <martinkli> just keep your workspace ;)
[18:08:18] <Badman> Eclipse for RCP/Plug-in Developers << I was using this version
[18:08:25] <martinkli> did you have a lot of third party plug-ins or just a standard edition (e.g. J2EE edition) of eclipse?
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[18:08:31] <martinkli> ah ok
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[18:08:39] <Badman> sorry
[18:08:57] <Badman> I did ctrl+w instead of ctrl+c
[18:08:59] <martinkli> Badman: I see, so all you have to do is to download that again
[18:09:11] <martinkli> and install into a fresh folder
[18:09:16] <Badman> Eclipse IDE for C/C++ Developers << if I installed this one, it will not change something?
[18:09:28] <Badman> if I install*
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[18:09:43] <martinkli> you will not have the Java and RCP capabilities then
[18:10:24] <Badman> I'm using eclipse just for LaTeX for the moment
[18:12:43] <martinkli> then it depends on the dependencies of the plug-ins you use for that
[18:13:30] <Badman> I hope it will not cause a problem
[18:13:39] <Badman> rcp is bigger
[18:13:55] <martinkli> the platform without IDE is even smaller ;)
[18:13:58] <Badman> and I don't want to download this big distribution of eclipse
[18:14:07] <martinkli> about 40 MB for windows
[18:14:19] <Badman> I want the minimalist one
[18:14:34] <Badman> I'm downloading the one of 63MB
[18:15:05] <martinkli> the Platform Runtime Binary is the smallest executable variant I think
[18:15:12] <martinkli> look here: http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.3.1.1-200710231652/index.php
[18:17:56] <Badman> you are right
[18:18:18] <Badman> 12MB
[18:22:12] <martinkli> 12MB? that sounds like the RCP Runtime Binary which won't run on its own...
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[18:22:39] <martinkli> try the Platform Runtime Binary instead (40MB)
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[18:26:25] <Badman> http://pastebin.ca/853541
[18:26:33] <Badman> with 12MB version
[18:27:06] <Badman> it's a java problem I think
[18:27:48] <martinkli> the 12MB version can not run on its own, it needs an application on top of it
[18:28:05] <Badman> I'm downloading the 40MB version
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[18:41:38] <Rayaken> hi, i have a problem with a FormEditor. the editor has a source code page (AbstractDecoratedTextEditor) and a form page (FormPage). the form page contains a form with compile options which are loaded from a properties file. i want to be able to set the editor to dirty when a compile option has changed. i tried the following code but it aint working. the editor has no asterik in the editor label to show that is is savable at the moment. http://pastebin.co
[18:42:14] <Badman> cdt-master-4.0.2.zip << there is nothing to run with that version
[18:42:54] <Badman> there are juste features and plugins
[18:42:58] <Badman> just*
[18:45:00] <Badman> Rayaken, you didn't paste the entire url
[18:45:56] <dominikg> Badman, what about that cdt zip you mentioned. I thought you wanted to download the platform runtime binary and install texclipse on top of that?
[18:46:11] <Badman> dominikg, yes
[18:46:24] <dominikg> so where does cdt fit in there?
[18:46:56] <Badman> I thought it's the 40MB version of eclipse
[18:47:18] <vwegert> Hi all. I've got a plug-in project that is not a Java project. Is there a way to add a Java nature to this project?
[18:47:34] <vwegert> (besides manually editing the project file, that is)
[18:47:52] <martinkli> vwegert: not as far as I know
[18:47:55] <dominikg> no, its a bundle designed for developing c/c++ (tho i'm not sure what that 'master' part is about)
[18:48:14] <dominikg> http://download.eclipse.org/eclipse/downloads/drops/R-3.3.1.1-200710231652/download.php?dropFile=eclipse-platform-3.3.1.1-win32.zip <- thats the latest platform runtime binary release for windows.
[18:48:30] <Rayaken> Badman: the url is working on my browser: http://pastebin.com/m6c059d6d
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[18:48:59] <Rayaken> Badman: it aint much code perhaps you oversaw it =)
[18:49:17] <dominikg> Rayaken, your message properbly got truncated, the first post ended with .co
[18:50:02] <Rayaken> dominikg: hmmm. not on my client ... but it doesn't matter. now it is correctly transmitted (i hope).
[18:50:11] <Badman> dominikg, yes I found that url, I don't how I did to download this cdt :s
[18:50:18] <Badman> I don't know how*
[18:53:20] <Rayaken> perhaps i need to start a little be further to the beginning: how do a form page of an editor get "dirty" and savable?
[18:53:30] <dominikg> Rayaken, that may be not enough information. Especially the class, implemented interfaces etc. would be interesting as well. Also, from looking at that tiney bit it looks like your setter is missing the boolean parameter. You cannot 'unset' dirty anymore
[18:54:13] <Rayaken> dominikg: i "unset" dirty after a doSave()
[18:55:30] <Rayaken> dominikg: as a wrote before: the editor is a FormEditor. the first page is an impl. of AbstractDecoratedTextEditor and the second page a FormPage.
[18:58:11] <Rayaken> i'm not very familiar with the FormEditor and multiple pages and i problably didn't understand something important ... but i don't know what.
[18:59:57] <Rayaken> dominikg: what info do you further need to help me?
[19:01:52] <dominikg> Rayaken, sorry, i'm afraid i can't help you on that one
[19:02:19] <Rayaken> dominikg: any good source where i can get further help with form editors?
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[19:05:06] <dominikg> you can stick around here, maybe someone will answer your question later. Another good source of information are the newsgroups. in your case the rcp newsgroup suits best i think
[19:05:24] <dominikg> ~tell Rayaken about newsgroups
[19:05:43] <Rayaken> dominikg: thanx
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[19:06:07] <dominikg> damn she's still not alive ... http://www.eclipse.org/newsgroups/
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[19:06:59] <Rayaken> dominikg: thanx for the link. the eclipse site has grown quite large and more often than not i'm searching hours for stuff.
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[19:16:53] <SKuhn> how do I refer to a file (not a class) inside a bundle?
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[19:18:15] <ulfdoz> I have running two SWT-Apps in different JVMs on MacOS. Both complain about invalid thread-access until one of them crashes with "Bus error". What is broken here? I can't reproduce the problem on linux.
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[19:29:46] <Badman> Error opening the editor.
[19:29:47] <Badman> Unknown constant tag 111 in class file org/eclipse/ui/texteditor/HippieCompleteAction
[19:29:47] <Badman>  << what can this be?
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[19:51:21] <FraAspire> ragazzi mi date una mano con eclipse?
[19:52:42] <martinkli> FraAspire: please try again in english ;)
[19:53:18] <FraAspire> oh this channel is an english channel...
[19:53:24] <FraAspire> sorry
[19:53:36] <FraAspire> i try to speak english
[19:54:14] <FraAspire> i have a problem with eclipse, i want to install some plugins for UML and for java gui
[19:54:29] <FraAspire> but i don't know how doing it
[19:54:54] <Badman> what plugins exactly?
[19:55:39] <FraAspire> i don't know their name
[19:55:54] <FraAspire> i need to write UML diagrams
[19:56:26] <FraAspire> and make gui not by code but by graphic help
[19:57:00] <Badman> what about omondo?
[19:57:29] <Badman> you can have a look on that anyway http://www.eclipse-plugins.info/eclipse/plugins.jsp?category=UML
[19:58:25] <FraAspire> ok thanks, omondo is one of that
[19:58:30] <Badman> on that too http://www.objectsbydesign.com/tools/umltools_byPrice.html
[19:58:37] <martinkli> FraAspire: what GUI technology do you want to use? Swing? SWT?
[19:58:38] <Badman> omondo is a paid plugin
[19:58:45] <Badman> but there is a free version of it
[19:59:17] <FraAspire> yes swing
[20:00:39] <martinkli> FraAspire: you can give Eclipse Visual Editor a try
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[21:10:25] <Zerone> ello :)
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[21:19:22] <Sukh0i> hi Zerone
[21:21:06] <Zerone> hi Sukh0i
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[21:52:31] <HanifB> In Eclipse, do I have to construct a project every time I need to run a java class?
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[22:12:00] <arooni_> is there a way i can export my current color scheme?
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[22:15:31] <acuster> Hey all, trying to attach source to a jar used in a referenced library
[22:15:38] <acuster> i don't understand the explanation
[22:16:10] <acuster> Source attachement for variable entries are defined by variable paths
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[22:18:17] <arooni_> is there a place
[22:18:22] <arooni_> where color schemes are posted
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[22:26:37] <HanifB> How do I build a project in eclipse to get .class files? I have a project defined and several .java files in it but I go to Project, Build Project is greyed out
[22:28:43] <carluva> is Build Automatically selected?
[22:28:53] <HanifB> yes
[22:29:05] <robinr> is it s "Java" project?
[22:29:43] <HanifB> ye
[22:30:53] <HanifB> when I say run, it says selection does not contain a main type
[22:32:01] <carluva> Build Project is always grayed out when Build Automatically is selected because the project automatically builds every time you save a file
[22:32:05] <Sukh0i> Are there any other variables I could use for Eclipse beside Preference Store?
[22:32:14] <HanifB> still not run
[22:32:44] <carluva> have you created a new run profile for your project?
[22:32:56] <HanifB> I get this error message when trying to run, after building the project - "Selection does not contain a main type
[22:33:26] <HanifB> I have not created a run file
[22:33:33] <HanifB> err project
[22:33:34] <carluva> that means that you're trying to run without creating a run profile or the class you're trying to run doesn't have a public static void main method in it
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[22:33:48] <HanifB> I do have a main method
[22:33:55] <HanifB> in the java file I am trying to run
[22:34:02] <HanifB> so it must mean I need to create a run profile
[22:34:04] <HanifB> How do I do that?
[22:34:15] <carluva> on the run menu, choose "Run..."
[22:34:51] <HanifB> I did
[22:35:00] <HanifB> then I get "Selection does not contain a main type
[22:35:11] <carluva> HanifB: in the dialog box, choose "Java Application" and click on the "New Launch Configuration" button
[22:36:01] <HanifB> ok
[22:36:27] <carluva> HanifB: when you click "Run..." you should get a large dialog box titled "Run", that says "Create, manage, and run configurations"
[22:36:42] <HanifB> yes
[22:36:45] <HanifB> I am on that window
[22:36:54] <martinkli> HanifB: you could also right-click in the editor containing your class with the main method and select Run As -> Java Application
[22:36:55] <HanifB> I am at "New_configuration
[22:37:05] <HanifB> let me try that
[22:37:15] <carluva> martinkli: lol, yeah, that would probably be easier...
[22:37:32] <HanifB> "Editor doe snot contain a main type" WTF?
[22:37:34] <HanifB> does*
[22:37:37] <HanifB> argh
[22:37:50] <HanifB> I have a public static void main(String[] args) throws IOException {
[22:38:26] <martinkli> what happens when you right-click on the class in the package explorer and Run As -> Java App?
[22:38:42] <HanifB> "Editor does not contain a main type"
[22:38:43] <njbartlett_> HanifB: pastebin the source for that file
[22:38:44] <HanifB> That error ^
[22:38:48] <njbartlett_> ~pastebin
[22:38:52] <HanifB> ok
[22:39:00] <njbartlett_> Oh great, the bot is down
[22:39:16] <HanifB> http://rafb.net/p/y80gSa39.html
[22:39:20] <HanifB> its ok :)
[22:40:24] <njbartlett_> It looks okay. Is it saved? Is it in a file called BinarySearchTreeProgram.java in the default package?
[22:40:25] <HanifB> I checked the workspace where the project is saved. There are no .class files. Could that be why?
[22:40:38] <HanifB> not default package, I gave it a name
[22:40:42] <njbartlett_> HanifB: No, the classfiles exist, just the Package Explorer view hides them from you
[22:40:43] <HanifB> let me screenshot my screen
[22:40:48] <HanifB> oh ok
[22:41:07] <njbartlett_> If you open the Navigator view (or indeed Windows Explorer/Mac Finder/whatever) you will see .class files.
[22:41:08] <HanifB> please hold, getting a screenshot
[22:41:11] <HanifB> no
[22:41:18] <HanifB> I do not see the .class files even in Finder
[22:41:23] <HanifB> thats why I am trying to say
[22:41:27] <njbartlett_> Ah wait a minute...
[22:41:38] <njbartlett_> Is this Java file inside a source folder, or just a regular folder?
[22:41:38] <martinkli> Project -> Build Automatically?
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[22:41:58] <martinkli> njbartlett_: good point
[22:42:03] <njbartlett_> martinkli: We've done that bit already
[22:42:05] <HanifB> oh shit!!
[22:42:08] <martinkli> sorry
[22:42:09] <HanifB> it wasn't in the src folder
[22:42:26] <njbartlett_> martinkli: No probs :-)
[22:42:26] <njbartlett_> HanifB: Working now?
[22:42:27] <HanifB> not it works!!
[22:42:28] <HanifB> :D
[22:42:33] <Romeus> hello :)
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[22:42:38] <Romeus> does anybody have any idea what the status is on Use Case Diagram editor in UML2Tools?
[22:42:47] <HanifB> the files were not in the "src' folder lol
[22:42:48] <HanifB> doh
[22:42:53] <HanifB> thanks njbartlett_  and martinkli
[22:43:03] <HanifB> It's always some little thing, isn't it?
[22:43:19] <carluva> HanifB: I can't see anything wrong with the source code either...
[22:43:34] <HanifB> yep, works now
[22:43:39] <HanifB> silly mistake
[22:44:19] <njbartlett_> HanifB: Yeah most people make that mistake once. You should notice that the files have a different icon now they're inside the source folder
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[22:45:04] <HanifB> correct, "J" icon
[22:45:28] <HanifB> I had them under the wrong category, which is: "JRE System Library [JVM 1.6.0]"
[22:45:53] <njbartlett_> HanifB: Java 6? On a Mac?
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[22:46:00] <HanifB> Yes
[22:46:05] <HanifB> "Preview" version though
[22:46:08] <TKT> Does anyone know how to downgrade a plugin? Eclipse aptana upgraded (well it said you want to upgrade and i said yes) .... now i get this error .... http://support.aptana.com/asap/browse/STU-129
[22:46:09] <HanifB> from connect.apple.com
[22:46:17] <njbartlett_> HanifB: Ah, 64 bit Intel?
[22:46:22] <HanifB> Yes
[22:46:25] <HanifB> MacBook
[22:46:52] <HanifB> if a file has a red x icon, what does that mean? It was not able to build/compile?
[22:47:11] <HanifB> means there are errors, nevermind
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[23:04:00] <HanifB> hows this for an email address? hanifbh at gmail dot com. Hanif is my first name, bh are the first two letters of my last name.
[23:11:00] <martinkli> HanifB: wrong channel? ;)
[23:11:27] <HanifB> lol
[23:11:28] <HanifB> ok
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[23:21:33] <SKuhn> hi, how do I execute code when a plugin is loaded & unloaded?
[23:23:05] <martinkli> SKuhn: there are start and stop methods in the plug-in activator class
[23:23:50] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: It depends what you mean by "loaded" and "unloaded"
[23:23:58] <SKuhn> martinkli: I know, like start(bundleContext) - I've set a breakpoint inside but it never stops
[23:24:28] <SKuhn> njbartlett_: well, I've got a emf-file or an uml profile inside a plug-in
[23:24:33] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: That gets called when your bundle is activated. The problem is, many bundles are never activated, and they don't need to be.
[23:25:11] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: I see, those are just resources or something?
[23:25:14] <SKuhn> well, I just said in another plugin that in requires that one
[23:25:47] <SKuhn> njbartlett_: yes, now I want to add this resource to the URI-Converter map
[23:26:01] <SKuhn> when the plugin is "loaded"
[23:26:12] <SKuhn> and delete it when the plugin is "unloaded"
[23:26:15] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: Umm I don't know anything about "URI-Converter" map
[23:26:53] <SKuhn> njbartlett_: you don't need to, it's already working. I just need to execute that code when my umlProfilePlugin is loaded
[23:27:21] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: However, there's no such state for a bundle as "loaded". There's "resolved", or there's "active"
[23:27:35] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: Ah okay. Well there's two routes here
[23:28:11] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: You can put the code you need to run in the BundleActivator, as you already have done. The problem is, you need some way to activate the bundle... it's not automatic.
[23:28:25] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: The other thing you should look at is something called the "Extender Pattern"
[23:28:55] <SKuhn> Extender Pattern? which way would you prefer?
[23:28:58] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: That means you have a separate bundle which sits around and examines new bundles being installed/uninstalled/resolved etc
[23:29:18] <SKuhn> ahh, I just need it for this bundle
[23:29:26] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: It simply says, "ah there's a new bundle with a UML profile in it. I'll add it to the URI-Converter"
[23:29:30] <SKuhn> actually all my other bundles will depend on it
[23:29:57] <SKuhn> ahh, there's no need to register more that this bundle
[23:30:02] <SKuhn> and not at runtime
[23:30:37] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: Okay fair enough. Then the simple way is best. So you need to work out when and how to activate this one bundle.
[23:30:38] <SKuhn> so, how can I activate and deactivate the bundle?
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[23:31:23] <SKuhn> It would be best if it's activated as soon as another bundle which requires this one is loaded
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[23:31:32] <SKuhn> and unloaded the other way round
[23:31:37] <njbartlett_> SKuhn: By calling the Bundle.start() method. You can get the Bundle object from your BundleContext
[23:33:44] <SKuhn> hmm, let's say I've got a bundle A and B. B requires A. So in my dreams, as soon as B is loaded I want  to execute code in A. When B (or all plugins requiring A) is unloaded, I want to execute some other code in A.
[23:34:23] <njbartlett_> Loaded?
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[23:34:33] <SKuhn> started
[23:35:26] <njbartlett_> When you say B requires A, you actually mean "A must do something before B does something"?
[23:36:01] <SKuhn> yes
[23:36:22] <njbartlett_> Right. So, B has a BundleActivator with a start() method
[23:36:23] <SKuhn> ahh, I mean B depends on A
[23:36:42] <njbartlett_> No, you don't mean that, at least I don't think so.
[23:36:55] <njbartlett_> B depends on A means a class in B imports a class from A.
[23:37:08] <njbartlett_> So which is it?
[23:37:09] <SKuhn> actually no
[23:37:44] <SKuhn> I've put it in the plugin dependecies to make sure it is there
[23:38:13] <SKuhn> plugin A just contains a file, an uml-profile
[23:38:24] <njbartlett_> It's got nothing to do with dependencies then. A just has to do something before B can do its thing.
[23:38:31] <njbartlett_> Here's what needs to happen:
[23:38:32] <SKuhn> yes
[23:38:36] <njbartlett_> B has a BundleActivator
[23:38:43] <SKuhn> yes
[23:39:15] <njbartlett_> In the start() method of that bundle activator, B needs to call getBundles() on the BundleContext that gets passed to it by the framework.
[23:39:41] <SKuhn> ahh, and there I have to call A start
[23:39:53] <njbartlett_> Somewhere in that list of bundles will be A. You might have to just iterate through and find its SymbolicName
[23:39:58] <njbartlett_> Yeah, just call start()
[23:40:31] <njbartlett_> The problem is the shutdown, you were saying that basically there are lots of plugins with this relationship to A? Ie B1, B2, B3?
[23:40:57] <SKuhn> right now not, but it might be
[23:41:24] <njbartlett_> Okay. That's kind of hard because how do you know which B is the last one?
[23:41:49] <SKuhn> not at all. I was hoping osgi would do things like that :)
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[23:42:17] <njbartlett_> No sorry, OSGi won't implement your application for you :-)
[23:42:33] <njbartlett_> You will need some kind of counter
[23:42:36] <SKuhn> dream--
[23:44:32] <SKuhn> allright, I guess the start method could be called more than once
[23:44:55] <njbartlett_> Yeah, calling start() on an already started bundle is basically a no-op
[23:45:13] <njbartlett_> Thinking about this more... I wonder if we're doing this the wrong way around
[23:45:38] <njbartlett_> Can you describe a bit more about what the code in B should do?
[23:45:57] <SKuhn> B is a GMF plugin
[23:46:17] <SKuhn> it's a graphical editor which requires a profile
[23:46:20] <njbartlett_> Okay I've heard of GMF but I have absolutely NO idea what it does or how it works.
[23:46:50] <njbartlett_> The profile is this file in A, right?
[23:46:58] <SKuhn> but honestly, B just needs to load a file in A
[23:47:29] <SKuhn> but I don't want to refer to the file as C:/lalala/eclipse/plugin/XXX/super.profile.uml
[23:47:54] <njbartlett_> So why not load it from the Bundle object using getEntry()
[23:47:59] <SKuhn> so I can register the URI of the profile as www.myComp.de/profile/1.0.0
[23:48:32] <SKuhn> this makes it easier for the uml editor to load the file, even when it's used on different PCs
[23:48:53] <SKuhn> (eclipes based UML Editor like topcased)
[23:49:49] <njbartlett_> So there's some API in GMF where you register a profile using a URI. And then in B, you lookup the profile using that URI?
[23:50:02] <Zerone> n8 *
[23:50:35] *** Zerone has quit IRC
[23:50:40] <SKuhn> yes, the api is already in emf
[23:52:16] <SKuhn> I wonder if I shouldn't just write the code in the activator constructor and in the finalizer
[23:52:47] <njbartlett_> I'm wondering why the profile thing needs to be in its own bundle?
[23:53:24] <njbartlett_> Why not just put the profile file in the GMF plugin and register it during startup of that plugin?
[23:53:44] <SKuhn> it doesn't need to. But if somebody else wants to use the profile, this makes more sense to me
[23:54:05] <SKuhn> ahh, and the plugin B is generated :)
[23:54:17] <njbartlett_> Oh boy generated code, that doesn't help :-)
[23:54:18] <SKuhn> so I customize the source-models and the templates
[23:54:52] <SKuhn> but I don't want to put any files in the plugin, so that I can delete it whenever I want
[23:55:26] <SKuhn> sometimes code generation messes up the plugin, so deleting, re-gen is the best way
[23:55:38] <njbartlett_> Okay I think I see the picture. Give me a minute, I have a solution but I need to think it through
[23:55:52] <njbartlett_> Oh and I also need to change my baby's nappy, back soon
[23:55:55] <SKuhn> ok, I'll take a smoke
[23:56:01] <SKuhn> ;)
[23:57:05] <arooni_> is there a quick & easy way to change my colorscheme with eclipse?

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