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[00:19:04] *** kirkt has quit IRC [00:19:39] *** rorUnni has quit IRC [00:26:33] *** mefisto has joined #eclipse [00:26:39] <robinr> edrin: yes [00:27:12] <robinr> all hash implementions do that, except "perfect hashes", but those are very special cases [00:29:28] *** Infinito_ has quit IRC [00:29:33] <robinr> see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_table for more on hash tables [00:29:40] *** dominikg has quit IRC [00:31:23] *** kab has quit IRC [00:31:38] <edrin> robinr: you are absolutely sure that HashMap continues searching for another key that gives true on equals() if the current key with correct hashCode() failed with equals() ??? [00:35:14] <edrin> anyone else? [00:40:22] *** tobias_ has joined #eclipse [00:40:23] *** Weng has quit IRC [00:42:43] *** tskaufma has joined #eclipse [00:42:54] <tskaufma> Hello? [00:43:41] <rcjsuen> d_a_carver: for the record, i was condiering this issue http://www.eclipse.org/swt/faq.php#printOnGTKHangs [00:43:49] <rcjsuen> but yeah, i didn't consider gcj [00:43:54] <rcjsuen> tskaufma: ? [00:44:07] <tskaufma> I wanted to make sure I could see and be seen.. [00:44:13] <tskaufma> I do have I question though. [00:44:14] <rcjsuen> well, there's your answer [00:44:20] <rcjsuen> tskaufma: if you have questions just ask it directly [00:44:35] <rcjsuen> you're welcome to say 'hello', but sometimes those go ignored [00:44:48] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: yeah, first thing I do is consider gcj since it causes 90% of the problems with ubunutu [00:45:13] <rcjsuen> anyways, i'm afk again, ttyl dave [00:45:19] <d_a_carver> later [00:46:01] <tskaufma> I just grabbed all the Platform-ui stuff from CVS, and the latest Integration build of the Eclipse SDK, but I have compiler errors. There are 53 errors all related to org.eclipse.ui.carbon. Is this something to be worried about (I don't want to change anything in there)? [00:49:45] <robinr> edrin: look at the code if you don't believe me [00:52:08] *** tobiash has quit IRC [00:53:49] *** eelriver has quit IRC [00:53:52] *** caravena has joined #eclipse [01:00:14] *** riishigh has left #eclipse [01:01:25] *** veleno has joined #eclipse [01:05:38] <njbartlett_> edrin: Yes [01:08:01] <rcjsuen> tskaufma: well, elaborating on those compiler errors would be a good start, you're actually on a mac, reiight [01:08:06] <rcjsuen> and afk again ~.~ [01:09:06] *** feldari_ has joined #eclipse [01:10:32] <njbartlett_> When do EclipseCon BOFs get setup? Is it Wayne who organises them? 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Is there any special CDT channel? [02:09:25] *** secureT has quit IRC [02:11:25] <ian|> I have some problems with remote debugging of C++ applications (cross-platform). I set up "Debug local application" with gdbserver target, using the cross gdb (ppc-linux-gdb) and load the correct binary. [02:12:12] <ian|> The gdb process also connects to gdbserver but in Eclipse it is shown in the progress bar, that "launching" is about 86% complete and nothing more happens. [02:12:30] *** feldari has quit IRC [02:12:41] <ian|> In the debug console everything seems to be fine (e.g. 'info threads' works). [02:13:43] *** feldari__ has joined #eclipse [02:13:59] *** dohtem has joined #eclipse [02:14:06] <njbartlett_> ian|: Unfortunately not, the CDT people don't seem to come onto IRC much either. The best place to ask is on the CDT newsgroups. [02:14:33] *** context has joined #eclipse [02:14:54] *** feldari__ has quit IRC [02:14:56] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC [02:15:09] <context> umm so how the hell do i open the ui editor thing in eclipse :/ [02:15:19] *** feldari__ has joined #eclipse [02:16:03] *** njbartlett_ has quit IRC [02:19:53] *** feldari__ has quit IRC [02:20:58] *** feldari has joined #eclipse [02:21:28] *** feldari has quit IRC [02:23:18] *** feldari has joined #eclipse [02:23:51] *** njbartlett_ has joined #eclipse [02:27:21] *** feldari has quit IRC [02:27:48] *** feldari has joined #eclipse [02:30:41] *** nmatrix9 has joined #eclipse [02:34:57] *** steegf has joined #eclipse [02:34:58] *** fsteeg has quit IRC [02:38:36] *** caravena has quit IRC [02:42:15] *** tromey has left #eclipse [02:46:12] *** caravena has joined #eclipse [02:53:35] *** merlin2049er has joined #eclipse [03:05:43] *** mxttie has quit IRC [03:05:50] *** mxttie has joined #eclipse [03:09:27] *** mxttie has quit IRC [03:10:15] *** Infinito_ has quit IRC [03:12:06] *** Infinito_ has joined #eclipse [03:14:01] *** Infinito_ has quit IRC [03:19:47] *** dohtem` has joined #eclipse [03:20:04] *** riotz has quit IRC [03:20:40] *** scorphus has joined #eclipse [03:22:46] *** pombreda has quit IRC [03:22:53] *** dohtem` has quit IRC [03:37:24] *** dohtem has quit IRC [03:51:19] *** tobias_ has quit IRC [03:59:41] *** merlin2049er has quit IRC [04:01:08] *** tskaufma has quit IRC [04:04:31] *** robinr has quit IRC [04:11:45] *** ReneP has quit IRC [04:12:28] *** scorphus has quit IRC [04:12:39] *** Infinito_ has joined #eclipse [04:29:58] *** eelriver has joined #eclipse [04:31:55] *** ekuleshov has joined #eclipse [04:38:30] *** z` has quit IRC [04:56:04] *** nmatrix9 has quit IRC [05:04:54] <atomi-> is there a way to script eclipse to save after a couple seconds if the editor is dirty? [05:05:14] *** ekuleshov has quit IRC [05:07:05] <atomi-> i see the Workspace save in interval, and that works well, but i'd like it to save within seconds or immediately after a change. [05:10:22] <context> atomi-: umm you're gonna kil the box saving on every keystroke ... [05:11:01] <atomi-> context well not if it only saves if there are changes [05:11:06] <context> atomi-: umm id ask why you need instant saves in the first place [05:11:15] <context> atomi-: and a keystroke in the editor would be a change ... [05:11:19] <atomi-> context because my pinky hurts [05:11:24] <context> and i dont know, but after 60 wpm, thats a LOT of saves .. [05:11:49] <context> your pinky ? [05:11:51] <atomi-> context yes but only after a short pause would it save [05:12:02] <atomi-> context yes my pinky finger, it's killing me [05:12:10] <atomi-> context i think i might have to brace it. [05:12:25] <atomi-> context i'm not even trying to be funny. [05:12:30] <atomi-> context it hurts [05:13:29] <atomi-> context admittedly i'm not great at css, so styling a web site is especially excrutiating [05:13:52] <atomi-> context i'm having to save for every change just to see what it looks like or if it worked as expected. [05:13:54] <context> umm ok [05:14:09] <context> get a better development environment ? [05:14:19] <context> for css at least ... ? [05:14:53] <context> atomi-: ya know firebug DOES let you edit css actively from the browser and see your changes in real time [05:14:57] <context> WITHOUT saving ... [05:15:25] <atomi-> you miss the point. i don't want to have to ctrl s [05:15:37] <atomi-> regardless of whether it's css [05:15:47] <atomi-> ctrl+s = bad [05:16:39] <atomi-> put it this way: if it saves at one minute intervals, why not in seconds? if crashing is a problem just mention the caveat [05:17:41] <context> like i said [05:17:46] <context> get a better development environment [05:17:55] *** spathi has joined #eclipse [05:17:56] <context> eclipse has build on the fly [05:18:17] <context> atomi-: i use textmate, it saves as soon as i change window focus [05:18:24] <atomi-> perfect [05:18:53] <atomi-> why can't i have that for eclipse! [05:19:08] <context> dont ask me [05:20:43] <atomi-> i'd miss mylyn, subversive, integrated ant etc... [05:25:09] *** pombreda has joined #eclipse [05:34:37] *** LongBeach has joined #eclipse [05:36:48] *** DPAK0H has joined #eclipse [05:43:40] *** steegf has quit IRC [05:48:30] *** dmiles_afk has quit IRC [05:53:51] *** rcjsuen has joined #eclipse [05:55:54] *** eggauah has quit IRC [06:00:52] <rcjsuen> SKuhn: Don't think there's a setting to tell what to load first. By default it usually loads the one that's inspecting in launch configs though I think. [06:02:51] <rcjsuen> atomi-: Check bugzilla if you want it so bad, or file one yourself. [06:03:02] <rcjsuen> context: What do you mean by UI editor? GUI builder? 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[06:45:03] <rcjsuen> as aforementioned, installing Eclipse has no effect on this, unless that is how your distro works [06:45:06] <rcjsuen> but that osunds ridiculous [06:45:29] <rcjsuen> that would mean installing all of eclipse for one of its part so that Azureus can use that one part [06:45:42] <rcjsuen> sounds like a package-gone-bad [06:46:17] <rcjsuen> I recommend you file a bug to your distribution's Azureus packaging team. [06:50:52] <sanguisdex> why if I installed eclipse manualy [06:52:13] <rcjsuen> sanguisdex: So you're telling me you downloaded the Eclipse tarball, extracted it to ~/, that tried to start Azureus, and now it's dead. [06:52:28] <rcjsuen> then tried to start Azureus, rather [06:52:42] <sanguisdex> well not to ~/ but yeah that's what I am telling you [06:53:09] <rcjsuen> So where did you extract it to [06:53:24] <sanguisdex> /usr/lib [06:53:50] <rcjsuen> sanguisdex: Did you try not putting it there? [06:54:03] <sanguisdex> nope [06:54:08] <rcjsuen> sanguisdex: Does deleting Eclipse make Azureus start properly? [06:55:02] <sanguisdex> after all the time it took to install the plugins to eclipse I wanted to make that my last resort [06:55:16] <sanguisdex> so I did not try [06:55:21] <rcjsuen> sanguisdex: All you'd have to do is just move it to another folder. [06:55:26] <rcjsuen> mv /usr/lib/eclipse ~/ [06:55:27] <rcjsuen> azureus [06:55:28] <rcjsuen> the end [06:55:40] <sanguisdex> ok [06:55:59] <rcjsuen> if it still doesn't work, move it back, no gain, no loss, you never start Eclipse, so it would not even noticed it ever was moved [06:56:49] <sanguisdex> nope still broke [06:57:18] <rcjsuen> sanguisdex: Then it is not an Eclipse problem. [06:57:50] <sanguisdex> weird [06:57:54] <sanguisdex> well thanks [06:58:13] <rcjsuen> Talk to your distro. [06:58:15] <sanguisdex> I will try reinstalling azureus [06:58:17] <sanguisdex> I will [06:59:07] <sanguisdex> do you think that line w/ eclipse mentioned in the error is because the azureus devs use it? [06:59:18] <rcjsuen> sanguisdex: Rephrase that. [07:01:51] <sanguisdex> the line, Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/eclipse/swt/widgets/Display is the reason that I suspected eclipse of the problem. Do you think that eclipse is mentioned there because the azureus devs use it? [07:03:17] <rcjsuen> sanguisdex: Yes, Azureus uses SWT www.eclipse.org/swt [07:03:32] <sanguisdex> ok [07:03:53] <sanguisdex> well that clears up that part of the confusion [07:03:57] <sanguisdex> thanks [07:26:51] *** rcjsuen has quit IRC [07:29:53] *** sanguisdex has left #eclipse [07:51:16] *** mefisto has quit IRC [08:00:06] *** lawsonenglish has joined #eclipse [08:00:54] <lawsonenglish> I'm running pydev and sometimes my script hangs so I kill it. Unfortunately, the socket it bound is now permanently bound until I quit eclipse. Is there anyway around this? 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[11:32:57] <Sukh0i> I tried with \", (char)34, none seems to work. [11:33:06] <mahogny> \" should be fine [11:33:57] *** mefisto has joined #eclipse [11:34:18] <context> hibernate fails to compile :( [11:34:19] *** GEK has joined #eclipse [11:34:59] <GEK> Hmn [11:35:04] *** GEK is now known as Sukhoi [11:38:48] *** benowar has joined #eclipse [11:42:24] *** SKuhn has quit IRC [11:43:09] *** SKuhn has joined #eclipse [11:46:58] *** veleno has quit IRC [11:52:05] *** Sukh0i has quit IRC [12:02:17] *** mhaller8547 has joined #eclipse [12:16:41] *** lawsonenglish has quit IRC [12:17:56] *** ender has quit IRC [12:21:05] *** mhaller has quit IRC [12:23:39] *** DPAK0H_ has joined #eclipse [12:23:53] *** DPAK0H has quit IRC [12:25:46] *** Andrean has joined #eclipse [12:29:17] *** jwisher_ has joined #eclipse [12:31:34] <Andrean> hy there , i have got a problem and i dont know why it does not work, so i compiled a simple program in g++ , and i try it in eclipse and it does not work http://rafb.net/p/3rPKlX33.html [12:33:02] <Andrean> can somebody help me ? [12:34:59] *** ender has joined #eclipse [12:36:46] *** asac has quit IRC [12:37:29] *** Tortoose has quit IRC [12:38:24] *** benowar is now known as ben^afk [12:39:13] <ender> hello again... i need to generate code from UML diagrams... how? emf? jet?... 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[13:28:06] <xLE> yes rcjsuen [13:28:27] <rcjsuen> xLE: So it was fine "yesterday". [13:28:30] <xLE> yes [13:28:41] <xLE> it has started to do this since my box restarted [13:28:51] <xLE> unexpectently this morning [13:28:59] <rcjsuen> Looks like your CDT's gone mad. [13:29:10] <xLE> =[ [13:29:11] <rcjsuen> Try opening Eclipse on a non-existent/clean workspace. [13:29:35] *** Tortoose has joined #eclipse [13:29:44] <xLE> same error. [13:30:29] <rcjsuen> xLE: How are you opening Eclipse on the diff workspace [13:30:29] *** Tortoose has quit IRC [13:30:50] <xLE> applications > programming > eclipse [13:30:55] *** Tortoose has joined #eclipse [13:31:11] <rcjsuen> xLE: How do you know that'll open Eclipse on a different target workspace? [13:31:16] *** Tortoose has quit IRC [13:31:17] <xLE> :s [13:31:49] <rcjsuen> xLE: eclipse -data /path/to/empty/folder [13:31:58] <xLE> oh [13:32:34] <xLE> ah [13:32:34] <rcjsuen> If you usually open Eclipse through the App menu, there's no reason to believe clicking it today, right now, will magically point it elsewhere. ;p [13:32:43] <xLE> that has fixed it :p [13:32:49] <xLE> thank you very much. [13:35:08] *** Tortoose has joined #eclipse [13:36:11] *** Tortoose has quit IRC [13:39:28] *** Tortoose has joined #eclipse [13:40:31] *** Tortoose has quit IRC [13:40:47] *** Tortoose has joined #eclipse [13:41:50] *** Tortoose has quit IRC [13:42:07] *** Tortoose has joined #eclipse [13:42:30] *** Tortoose has quit IRC [13:43:47] *** ender has joined #eclipse [13:43:49] *** njbartlett_ has joined #eclipse [13:46:20] *** Tortoose has joined #eclipse [13:50:34] *** Tortoose has joined #eclipse [13:50:53] <Sukhoi> rcjsuen:Java [13:50:54] *** Tortoose has quit IRC [13:51:13] <rcjsuen> Sukhoi: So you can't print quotation marks? [13:51:30] <Sukhoi> Yes [13:51:53] <rcjsuen> Sukhoi: Does it work on the command line? What is your code like? [13:52:02] <rcjsuen> Did you try a one line hello world print statement? [13:52:15] <Sukhoi> It doesn't work on the command line. [13:52:56] <Sukhoi> If I try: System.out.println("Hello"); System.out.println("hello \" hello"); [13:53:03] <Sukhoi> I can see Hello hello hello [13:53:04] <Sukhoi> :) [13:54:26] <rcjsuen> well, it definitely works on my computer [13:54:47] *** Tortoose has joined #eclipse [13:55:06] *** Tortoose has quit IRC [13:55:14] <Sukhoi> Hmn... I created a new action plugin and it echos ". [13:55:18] <Sukhoi> Hmn. [13:56:54] <Sukhoi> But in another, where I want to use it, it does not work :) [13:58:25] *** gallatin has joined #eclipse [14:00:15] *** dtuna has joined #eclipse [14:03:06] <Sukhoi> Hmn, there is a problem somewhere in my plugin, because when I delete printouts it still prints them out [14:03:59] <Sukhoi> Xcuse me. [14:04:02] <dominikg> Sukhoi, sounds like it does not get rebuilt [14:04:14] <Sukhoi> jap [14:04:52] *** dtuna has quit IRC [14:07:56] *** ben^afk is now known as benowar [14:10:28] *** acuster has quit IRC [14:11:40] *** caravena has quit IRC [14:12:57] *** dan`afk has joined #eclipse [14:13:40] <Sukhoi> I was recompiling wrong project, problem solved. [14:14:45] *** caravena has joined #eclipse [14:17:21] <rcjsuen> Sukhoi: Well then. [14:20:12] *** veleno has joined #eclipse [14:20:35] *** dan`afk has quit IRC [14:22:40] *** mmr has joined #eclipse [14:23:13] *** co2 has joined #eclipse [14:24:59] *** chadchoud has joined #Eclipse [14:26:16] *** eggauah has joined #eclipse [14:30:38] *** riotz has quit IRC [14:31:36] *** tobiash has joined #eclipse [14:32:42] *** sieboje has joined #eclipse [14:32:49] <sieboje> hello [14:33:24] <rcjsuen> sieboje: Hi [14:33:35] <sieboje> i have a question [14:33:51] <sieboje> is it possible to instal aptana php plugin in eclipse? [14:34:10] <rcjsuen> sieboje: I think so, I mean, they have a plug-in download don't they [14:34:22] <sieboje> yes [14:35:08] <sieboje> i can install aptana php plugin in aptana ide but can't find it to eclipse [14:35:27] <rcjsuen> "can't find"? [14:35:28] *** Carnage\ has joined #eclipse [14:35:29] <rcjsuen> define 'find' [14:35:32] <rcjsuen> where are you searching [14:35:38] *** ender has quit IRC [14:35:47] <sieboje> on eclipse site [14:36:08] <rcjsuen> sorry, not sure i follow [14:36:10] <sieboje> eclipseplugincentral [14:36:19] <sieboje> there is aptana plugin [14:36:19] <rcjsuen> you're looking for an Aptana plug-in download at eclipseplugincentral? [14:36:28] <sieboje> no no [14:36:31] <rcjsuen> sieboje: or are you lookin for a plug-in download at Eclipse.org? [14:36:36] <sieboje> i have aptana plugin already [14:36:47] <sieboje> but i need aptana php plugin [14:37:04] <sieboje> clear aptana plugin don't include php editor [14:37:40] <rcjsuen> so you want some Aptana plug-in but you can't find it on Aptana's site? [14:38:12] <sieboje> when u instal aptana ide u have a option to install php plugin [14:38:34] <sieboje> and when i install aptana as a eclipse plugin i haven't that option [14:38:38] *** merlin2049er has joined #eclipse [14:38:46] <rcjsuen> you should ask the Aptana guys then [14:38:53] <rcjsuen> Don't they have a message board or something [14:39:07] <sieboje> possibly they have [14:39:14] <sieboje> thanks for your help [14:40:22] <rcjsuen> sieboje: Good luck. Sorry, I don't use Aptana, so can't really help. [14:47:46] *** kartben has joined #eclipse [14:49:02] *** kartben has left #eclipse [14:51:21] *** sieboje has quit IRC [14:58:59] *** fsteeg has joined #eclipse [15:00:51] *** ender has joined #eclipse [15:05:38] *** Mr has joined #eclipse [15:06:00] <Mr> hello, i have playback problem with the mkv file [15:06:21] <Mr> video and audio is fine but subtitle is not showing!! [15:06:24] <Mr> plz help [15:08:46] <rcjsuen> Mr: I tihnk you're in the wrong channel. [15:09:15] *** soulreaper has quit IRC [15:09:32] <Mr> isnt this the anime channel? [15:10:09] <mmr> Mr: no [15:10:15] <rcjsuen> Mr: Eclipse fansubs is on Rizon (irc.rizon.net). [15:10:50] <rcjsuen> Mr: This is Eclipse at eclipse.org, the fansub group is at eclipse.no-sekai.de, see topic [15:11:22] <rcjsuen> Mr: What kind of player are you using? [15:11:23] <Mr> http://eclipse.no-sekai.de [15:11:30] <Mr> im using mplayer [15:11:36] <rcjsuen> Mr: On Linux? [15:11:40] <Mr> no, on vista [15:11:45] <Sukhoi> :) [15:11:46] <rcjsuen> oh, I don't know then [15:11:51] <rcjsuen> try right-clicking [15:11:57] <rcjsuen> maybe the graphical option will have something [15:12:02] <Sukhoi> Try VLC player. [15:12:17] <rcjsuen> I see a 'Subtitles' option if I use gmplayer. [15:12:28] <Mr> the thing is audio and video is fine, just sub isnt showing [15:12:43] <rcjsuen> Sukhoi: VLC is no good for softsubs at times because it ends up showing comments by the subbers. [15:13:00] <Mr> i see the option to choose SRT english or ASS english [15:13:15] <rcjsuen> Mr: okay, pick one and be on your merry way [15:13:24] <Mr> sadly, neither works [15:13:43] <rcjsuen> Mr: try MPC or try VLC [15:13:50] <rcjsuen> Mr: in the meantime, go talk to them on Rizon [15:14:15] <rcjsuen> hell they even have an faq http://eclipse.no-sekai.de/faq [15:14:43] <rcjsuen> "Where do you hang out, and where is your distro? >>>>>>>>>>>>> #eclipse @ irc.rizon.net " [15:14:48] <Mr> i read the faq, didnt find my asnwer but found this channel [15:15:13] <rcjsuen> well, you found the wrong server [15:15:22] <Mr> ok thx for the help guys [15:15:27] <Mr> i'll go over to rizon now [15:15:31] <mmr> bye [15:15:39] <rcjsuen> So long, farewell. [15:15:44] *** Mr has left #eclipse [15:15:53] <mmr> rcjsuen: gee, you have way more patience than me [15:16:28] <rcjsuen> mmr: That's because a) I watch shows from that sub group and b) I'm usually in a mood for helping people. [15:16:49] <mmr> rcjsuen: i see [15:17:01] <Sukhoi> :) [15:17:20] <mmr> rcjsuen: i like helping people as well but just when people really listen [15:17:29] <rcjsuen> mmr: It's partially my fault, if I stopped trying to help he would probably have left if I spammed "Rizon" enough times. [15:23:04] <Sukhoi> anyone has book contributing to eclipse? [15:40:57] *** GNU_D has joined #eclipse [15:41:14] *** aksn has joined #eclipse [15:42:12] <GNU_D> How to make embedded birt designer in my program ? [15:49:07] *** caravena has quit IRC [15:52:48] *** GNU_D has left #eclipse [15:53:56] *** scorphus has joined #eclipse [15:54:22] *** Rapp has joined #eclipse [15:55:12] <Rapp> is there a way to get a more 'emacs like' editing feeling in eclipse? are there any alternative editing components/plugins for eclipse, that implement more of the emacs functionality? [16:00:20] *** merlin2049er has quit IRC [16:02:38] <robinr> Rapp: emacs has a thousands features, so do eclipse. You have to be more specific. [16:03:43] <robinr> see http://eclipse-plugins.2y.net/eclipse/plugins.jsp [16:04:55] <Rapp> robinr: hm, best would be to have all the standard editing commands, like cut to kill buffer, yank, select, indent with tab, honoring the mode variable block in files (at least for things like indent mode, tab mode and language mode), splitting views (C-x 2 and C-x 3) and switching buffers (C-x b etc) [16:05:44] <Rapp> also neat would be if someone would implement a standard emacs in java, as a plugin for eclipse. not with ALL the features of e.g. gnu emacs, but at least the core. similar to uemacs [16:09:06] <robinr> I don't know of any such thing [16:09:18] *** soulreaper has joined #eclipse [16:09:42] <robinr> a practical problem is that emacs key bindings conflict with default eclipse key bindings [16:10:24] <Rapp> ok. i just found eclim, which brings eclipse to vim... mayber the other way around is more simple. so, to use a headless eclipse as a backend in emacs... [16:10:45] <Rapp> so, someone 'just' needs to write an emacs mode to talk to the headless eclipse... :) [16:11:17] <robinr> why. that would enable just a subset [16:11:46] <robinr> better to learn the keybindings in eclipse instead and use the full power [16:11:48] <Rapp> yes? what functionality is exported via the headless eclipse? eclim looks relatively impressive [16:12:06] <Rapp> sure, but i have so many nice emacs modes and tools, that i would miss :) [16:12:20] <Rapp> i mainly like the good code completion and svn support in eclipse... [16:12:25] <robinr> I use Alt-Tab to switch between applications [16:12:40] <robinr> that way I can use eclipse, jbuilder and emacs on the same projectgt [16:13:06] <Rapp> yes... but doesn't help with the lacking code completion in emacs :^) [16:13:06] <robinr> plus bash ofcourse [16:13:09] *** rorUnni has joined #eclipse [16:18:50] <robinr> btw, indent with tab works in eclipse afaik [16:26:53] *** acuster has joined #eclipse [16:34:05] *** caravena has joined #eclipse [16:35:27] *** ender has quit IRC [16:38:22] *** ekiczek__ has quit IRC [16:49:25] *** aikie has joined #eclipse [16:51:07] *** ender has joined #eclipse [16:53:51] *** willi__ has joined #eclipse [16:54:30] *** Carnage\ has quit IRC [16:54:35] <willi__> hello. my eclipse just stopped giving me syntax proposals .. does oanzone how how i can turn it back on? [16:58:11] *** Rapp has quit IRC [16:59:04] *** ekiczek has joined #eclipse [17:00:22] <aikie> control+space? [17:00:27] *** n_np has quit IRC [17:00:33] *** Rapp has joined #eclipse [17:01:23] <willi__> aikie: doesn't give me anything .. [17:02:53] *** ian| has quit IRC [17:03:09] *** ian| has joined #eclipse [17:03:30] <aikie> no idea than [17:03:39] *** wowzero has joined #eclipse [17:04:11] *** mmr has left #eclipse [17:04:44] *** aikie has quit IRC [17:05:31] *** Tortoose has joined #eclipse [17:07:46] *** gallatin has quit IRC [17:13:24] *** ender has quit IRC [17:19:37] *** aksn has quit IRC [17:21:51] *** acuster has quit IRC [17:23:06] *** chillmann has joined #eclipse [17:26:07] *** wowzero_ has joined #eclipse [17:27:52] *** kjkoster5489 has joined #eclipse [17:28:19] *** soulreaper has quit IRC [17:32:15] *** soulreaper has joined #eclipse [17:32:19] *** willi__ has quit IRC [17:42:27] <Sukhoi> Do you have right editor on? [17:42:32] <Sukhoi> ah [17:44:56] *** mhaller8547 has quit IRC [17:45:01] *** wowzero has quit IRC [17:49:28] *** TomTom has quit IRC [17:59:21] *** KOS-MOS has quit IRC [18:19:12] *** amitev has joined #eclipse [18:20:02] *** splatch_ has quit IRC [18:22:07] *** nerdboy|off is now known as nerdboy [18:33:21] *** wowzero has joined #eclipse [18:36:24] *** kjkoster5489 has quit IRC [18:39:32] *** dan2 has quit IRC [18:50:41] *** wowzero_ has quit IRC [18:53:37] <pombreda> Rapp: about emacs, there is a std incomplete set of emacs keybindings in eclipse, then there are a few plugins: one deal with tabbing "a la emacs" and is quite old. another is able to embed emacs and vim themselves in eclipse as integrated editors. oth [18:56:00] <pombreda> there wrere may be a couple on emacs mebeeding in fact; this old one http://people.csail.mit.edu/adonovan/hacks/eclipse-emacs.html that one was the tab stuff (rather old too) http://park.ruru.ne.jp/ando/work/who/ee2e/ [18:59:20] *** wowzero has quit IRC [18:59:26] *** adz21c has joined #eclipse [19:00:35] <adz21c> hey i am running eclipse 3.2 under ubuntu 7.10 x64. I am trying to get visual editor to work, but it fails with this message "IWAV0138E Remote VM terminated too soon." Any ideas why this is happening? Cheers [19:01:49] *** caravena has quit IRC [19:03:39] <pombreda> http://eclim.sourceforge.net/ is a more recent one that does eclipse emebdding in vim (sic) ... and that one does vim in eclipse http://vimplugin.sourceforge.net/wiki/pmwiki.php (which should theorically be a good base for the same emacs embedding) .... and finally http://code.google.com/p/eeedit/ does vim embedding too using another technique (borrowed from netbeans ) and support vim for now with plans for xemacs. that one and ht [19:03:47] <pombreda> Rapp: that is it :-) [19:05:00] <pombreda> adz21c: you would need to run eclipse 32 bits as provided by eclipse, and the latest version of the visual editor 1.2.3_jem as well as a 32 bits Sun jvm. [19:05:29] <pombreda> adz21c: you would help a lot of you can post a bug with your log just in case :-P [19:05:46] <adz21c> where would i post it? [19:06:03] <pombreda> adz21c: before the bug... can tyou ~pastebin ? [19:06:11] <pombreda> ~pastebin [19:06:19] <adz21c> ok, where do i go for the log? [19:06:24] <pombreda> KOS-MOS! help! [19:06:45] <pombreda> adz21c: http://eclipse-wiki.inof/IrcFaq has some pointers [19:06:48] <pombreda> for the logs [19:06:52] <pombreda> and use a pastebin [19:07:05] *** Tortoose has quit IRC [19:07:11] <pombreda> http://eclipse-wiki.info/IrcFaq [19:07:24] <adz21c> ok ta [19:08:05] <pombreda> and http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC too [19:08:18] <pombreda> rcjsuen: KOSMOS is dead, I am missing him [19:08:27] * pombreda in love with the bot :-P [19:08:30] *** atomi9987 has joined #eclipse [19:09:07] *** atomi9987 is now known as [atomi] [19:09:14] <pombreda> adz21c:a better faq is now here: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ [19:10:54] <benowar> Q: I add an IAction programmatically (not using plugin.xml) to my app (including setting an ID and Action Definition ID) and want to support keybindings. I define a Command/Keybinding in the plugin.xml using the action-defition-id and its even showing up in the UI of Eclipse but it can not be executed. [19:11:09] <benowar> (eclipse 3.3 btw) [19:11:29] <benowar> I guess I need to register some kind of IHandler, but advise is greatly appreciated :) [19:12:31] *** sama has joined #eclipse [19:16:38] *** richip1618 has joined #eclipse [19:16:49] *** nikolavp has joined #eclipse [19:17:15] <nikolavp> sorry for the newbish question but is there a way to execute a specific target in a build.xml file from eclipse ? [19:17:19] <richip1618> Hi. Is there a mailing list where I can ask users type of questions on eclipse? Specifically regarding JEE app development? [19:17:26] <nikolavp> or i have to provide an external tool command ?:) [19:17:41] <richip1618> nikolavp: Sure ... pull up the Ant view and double-click on your target [19:17:44] <pombreda> benowar: that sounds like paulweb515 's turf to me :-) [19:18:13] <pombreda> nikolavp: the ant view or the outline view (more crude) [19:18:14] <nikolavp> hmm what do you understand under Ant view :) [19:18:48] <pombreda> nikolavp: drag and drop a build file in the ant view [19:18:56] <benowar> pombreda, paulweb515: yes. and I think I already asked this question and iirc paul said this was fixed in 3.4, but it would be interesting how to solve this for 3.3 :) [19:19:01] <richip1618> nikolavp: I think it's under Window ... show view. Show the Ant view then select your build.xml ant file. It should show you a tree view. Select the target you want to execute [19:19:14] <pombreda> nikolavp: Menu Window/Show View/Other/Ant [19:19:18] <nikolavp> ah i found it :) [19:19:21] <pombreda> :-) [19:19:21] <nikolavp> thanks :D [19:19:40] <pombreda> benowar: :-P [19:20:06] <nikolavp> cool ;P [19:20:07] <nikolavp> thanks :D [19:20:30] <richip1618> so ... are there mailing list for JEE app dev users? [19:21:47] <richip1618> I'll try here, anyway: I'm creating an enterprise app (EAR) which contains two webapps (WAR) which, in turn, rely on a Java project (JAR) [19:21:59] <richip1618> ... they all depend on external JARs. [19:22:21] <richip1618> ... My question is how to set up the Enterprise app project so that it includes all the external JAR dependencies [19:22:47] *** atomi- has quit IRC [19:22:54] <richip1618> ... Each time I try to add all three projects to the EAR project, it seems like it only wants one [19:23:19] <richip1618> ... ie. I restart eclipse and only one app remains as a dependency of the EAR project. Any ideas? [19:24:00] *** amitev has quit IRC [19:25:19] *** splatch has joined #eclipse [19:25:50] *** splatch is now known as splatch_ [19:27:37] <benowar> no, its not even working that way in 3.4 [19:29:33] <richip1618> soo ... are there any support groups / IRC channels / mailing lists for JEE-related questions? [19:29:45] <richip1618> JEE in eclipse, that is. [19:30:39] *** adz21c has quit IRC [19:36:23] *** denisr has joined #eclipse [19:37:45] *** Rapp has quit IRC [19:38:20] *** mr_daniel has quit IRC [19:41:29] *** denisr has quit IRC [19:45:47] *** [atomi] has quit IRC [19:55:10] *** Rapp has joined #eclipse [19:55:57] <benowar> I solved my problem, its working when I add a default handler [20:01:16] <dmiles_afk> hrrmm, i havent found any eclipse plugins that read visual studio plugin files [20:02:18] <dmiles_afk> i thought cdt did.. well there are .sln vs .vcprj vs .vcp files.. but none of the three [20:03:04] <dominikg> dmiles_afk, i've never heard of anything like that. eclipse doesn't read netbeans or intellij configgurations either [20:03:25] <dmiles_afk> but what i want is for any of the three C# plugins to read .csproj files :) [20:03:44] <dmiles_afk> go figure [20:05:51] *** richip1618 has left #eclipse [20:07:06] <dmiles_afk> i think so far i've found 3: blacksun, Improve C# Plugin for Eclipse , and evolution plgins or c#.. the search box on eclipse.org wasnt more that three characters.. i on have two: C# [20:08:14] *** soulreaper has quit IRC [20:08:22] <dmiles_afk> plugins for c#... and the search box on the plugin http search wants three characters [20:08:39] *** bugra has joined #eclipse [20:09:31] *** bugra has joined #eclipse [20:09:47] *** rorUnni has quit IRC [20:10:06] *** rorUnni has joined #eclipse [20:11:29] *** kjkoster5489 has joined #eclipse [20:13:33] *** mhaller has joined #eclipse [20:14:07] *** mefisto has quit IRC [20:15:26] *** soulreaper has joined #eclipse [20:15:41] *** Pete^_^ has quit IRC [20:17:31] <dmiles_afk> got it.. emf4net [20:19:29] *** steegf has joined #eclipse [20:27:49] *** atomi- has joined #eclipse [20:35:09] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: emf4net can read vs project files? [20:35:40] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: What is this "evolution plgins or c#"? [20:35:53] <dmiles_afk> it looks like it might just be eventually getnerating them after it makes the .cs files from emf [20:36:37] *** chillmannek has joined #eclipse [20:36:42] <rcjsuen> What exactly are you looking for? You want to do C# in Eclipse and you want the plug-in to read the .csproj files and set up the project properly? [20:36:54] *** Pete-_- has joined #eclipse [20:37:11] <dmiles_afk> yeah.. that doesnt seem like too much [20:37:22] *** fsteeg has quit IRC [20:37:38] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Well, because of the concept of "solutions", it's not as straightforward I think since a solution is kind of a "nested" project. [20:37:44] *** yi has joined #eclipse [20:37:47] * dmiles_afk getting the url of the evolution plugin [20:38:45] <rcjsuen> At least, that's what I got from reading stuff online. I've never used Visual Studio. [20:38:46] <dmiles_afk> solutions well end up being workspaces for .csproj,vsjproj,vbproj etc [20:38:59] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Can't you have multiple solutions open at the same time? [20:39:05] <rcjsuen> That's not really a one-to-one mapping to a workspace. [20:39:11] *** kjkoster5489 has quit IRC [20:39:34] <dmiles_afk> yeah.. .. but what happens is one soltuion takes over as the file that "saves" when you exit [20:39:54] <rcjsuen> Rephrase that. [20:40:56] <dmiles_afk> well you start ut opening a solution with 3 projects.. then you might open another soltuion.. with 3 more.. .. it actually makes the first soltuion contains 6.. and the second contain 3 still [20:41:13] <rcjsuen> That's kinda odd. [20:41:23] <rcjsuen> Sounds counterintuitive, but maybe (probably?) because I'm not familiar with VS. [20:41:52] <dmiles_afk> its usefull .. in vc6 it didn work this way.. and it was more painfull when you could only open one at a time [20:42:05] <dmiles_afk> now it just secretly opens the children projects for you [20:42:18] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: I meant, the bit about "adding to the first solution" sounded counterintuitive to me. [20:43:12] <dmiles_afk> well yeah.. becasue you think you chaging the second.. or who knows which.. its just whichever one you "save" that gets the new members [20:43:23] * rcjsuen shrugs. [20:43:24] <rcjsuen> Oh well. [20:43:36] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Let me know when you find that 'evolution plug-in' or whatever. [20:43:37] <yi> in eclipse [20:43:42] <yi> how do you do postmortem debugging? [20:43:56] <yi> i.e. i'd like to see the variables right after an exception has occured [20:44:17] <rcjsuen> yi: You could set exception breakpoints I s'pose. [20:45:46] <dmiles_afk> ok ther eis fr.improve.* and sf.blacksun. and the thrirn that i call evoltion is actually called org.emonic.* [20:45:47] *** bugra has joined #eclipse [20:46:06] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: ah, okay [20:46:07] <yi> hurm [20:46:12] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: I thought there was another C# plug-in I didn't know about. ;) [20:46:15] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: If you find another, let me know. [20:46:28] <dmiles_afk> rcjsuen, do you know o more than those three? [20:46:31] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: I work on Emonic personally. [20:46:48] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Nope, I don't. I found out about Emonic last summer, realized it was still active (compared to the other two), so started contributing to that. [20:47:32] <dmiles_afk> ah.. well i am trying to find it's UI contributions ;P is it the one that creates a perspective of .NET ? [20:47:48] *** codehog has joined #eclipse [20:47:51] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Yes, that one has a '.NET' perspective. [20:47:58] *** chadchoud has quit IRC [20:48:02] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Well, maybe Black Sun does, I've not tried that one. I tried Improve's a long time ago. [20:48:16] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: I committed monodoc support yesterday. :) http://imagebin.ca/img/ajFlfP.jpg [20:48:47] <rcjsuen> The plug-in is still pretty immature with all due respect, but we're working quite hard. [20:48:57] <dmiles_afk> rcjsuen, well they some to all have differnt fonts and pretty code colors.. i been looking for which one has a build nature though [20:49:13] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: We use NAnt to build (or Ant if you want). [20:49:41] <rcjsuen> We don't have MSBuild integration or parsing of .csproj files as you probably noticed. [20:49:42] *** ticapix has joined #eclipse [20:49:52] <ticapix> hi [20:49:55] <rcjsuen> ticapix: Hi [20:50:04] <dmiles_afk> ah that is a nice screenshot [20:50:33] *** sama has quit IRC [20:51:07] *** chillmann has quit IRC [20:51:26] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: thx ;) [20:51:45] <rcjsuen> i am very proud of this milestone [20:51:50] *** thaivinhhuy has joined #eclipse [20:51:57] <thaivinhhuy> hello [20:52:13] <rcjsuen> thaivinhhuy: i [20:52:25] <thaivinhhuy> hello [20:52:30] <ticapix> I don't understand why with cdt 4.0.2 when with a c++ project I do a right clic on Index->Rebuild it doesn't help getting code completion. [20:54:10] <dmiles_afk> well for a few weeks igoing to be doing c# mixing it in with .java.. using ikvm to bind them. i'e gotten spoiled by eclipse.. monodeveop isnt bad .. sharpdeveope is a little better.. but i have to do this building on linux beause takes way too long on windows..l and VS2005 wont let me disable mscorlib.dll .. which fihgts with IKVM.Runtime if your in java [20:54:42] *** Pete-_- has quit IRC [20:54:50] <rcjsuen> ah [20:55:00] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: takes way too long on Windows? [20:55:04] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Well, on Linux you don't have much choice. [20:55:19] <dmiles_afk> in .cs it'll let you disable the mscorelib.. but not in j# [20:55:42] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: We're (obviously) worse than MonoDevelop, so unless you feel like helping with filing bugs and running CVS code... ;) [20:56:14] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: MD can import vs 2k5 files I thought? Maybe 2k8 too, I don't remember. [20:56:31] <dmiles_afk> it does.. it inports and exports them [20:56:57] <rcjsuen> Ah. [20:57:07] <dmiles_afk> but the imports is *sticky*.. it cant add a project to sometjing it imported [20:57:13] <rcjsuen> hm [20:57:26] <dmiles_afk> well it does until you close it one.. then its all gone [20:57:33] <dmiles_afk> one/once [20:58:01] <dmiles_afk> so when gleaning a codebase.. best to go with SharpDevelop [20:58:44] <dmiles_afk> but oh on taking to long on windows.. its that massively huge project it talk about all the time [20:59:03] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Well, if you feel like describing what you want (how importing a solution should work in an Eclipse context), let us know at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=158390&atid=807644 [20:59:16] <rcjsuen> Hm, so you are saying importing it in SD or MD is faster? [20:59:37] <dmiles_afk> SD is cleaner/faster [21:00:25] <dmiles_afk> building 1600 java files on my windows machine takes eclipse 10-20 minutes.. on my linux about 1/2 that [21:00:39] <rcjsuen> 1600 [21:00:44] * rcjsuen can't decide if that's a lot or not. [21:00:55] <rcjsuen> Since I never asked myself how big my workspace is. [21:01:28] <dmiles_afk> well less than 1/2 as long.. yeah.. in the scope of building eclipse itself it not very big .. but when your trying to chage one thing every minute. it gets behind you [21:01:44] <rcjsuen> hm [21:03:07] *** mr_science has quit IRC [21:03:50] *** sama has joined #eclipse [21:04:17] <dmiles_afk> i used the jlca last night now i have to place 1600 cs into a eclipse project.. maybe it'd be faster to try to just make a reader the the .csproj ;P [21:04:49] <dmiles_afk> java language conversion assistant thing [21:05:12] <rcjsuen> ah [21:05:21] *** dominikg has quit IRC [21:06:38] <dmiles_afk> i am supproed that none of these three c# plugins can just recusivly nab you .cs files the way the jdt does [21:06:45] <dmiles_afk> surprised [21:06:56] *** kjkoster5489 has joined #eclipse [21:07:22] *** sama has quit IRC [21:07:27] *** Pete-_- has joined #eclipse [21:07:39] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Recursively nab? [21:07:46] <dmiles_afk> recusivly nab your files that meet the extension they care about as long as its in a source folder [21:07:49] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: You mean just construct a "source folder" like JDT? [21:08:00] <rcjsuen> Dunno what you are trying to get at. [21:08:05] <dmiles_afk> or maybe it does ;P.. maybe that all i need to do :P [21:08:10] <rcjsuen> Okay, I get all .cs files in 'projectName', now what? [21:08:45] <dmiles_afk> right, i was in the now what stage [21:08:54] <rcjsuen> lol [21:09:46] *** atomi9987 has joined #eclipse [21:13:07] <dmiles_afk> sometimes i'll have the project view instead of the package view open .. and the project view has less right click adornments than the package view [21:13:45] <rcjsuen> I think I might've seen that before. [21:13:55] <rcjsuen> I "always" just use the Package Explorer though, so whatevs [21:14:17] <dmiles_afk> ah the .NET perspectvie doesnt have a "add to build path".. or actualyl a .NET project [21:17:29] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: question about content assist [21:17:46] <dmiles_afk> replace when a said "project view" with "navagitor view" .. i guess they are almost the same though [21:18:05] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Here you see 'interface blah.blah.blah' in VS http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ec/VSIntelliSense.PNG [21:18:21] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: in JDT, you would see 'String - java.lang' in the content assist popup (and not in the javadoc section [21:18:26] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Which do you think we should do? [21:19:09] *** chillmann has joined #eclipse [21:19:23] <dmiles_afk> i definatly like to know the implmenting type as well as the return type .. even if that means getting scrollbars [21:19:40] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: no no, this is for code completion on the class's name [21:19:43] <rcjsuen> like Str<ctrl+space> [21:19:48] <vwegert> Hi all. I'm having a slight problem with the Progress view. I schedule multiple jobs that block each other so that only one can be run at a time. I expect the view to show all jobs (both the one currently running and the waiting ones), but it only shows one or two of them. [21:19:53] *** kelaouch1 has joined #eclipse [21:20:06] <vwegert> Right now, it doesn't even show the job that is currently running. [21:20:44] <dmiles_afk> (i i mean a horizontal scoll bar) thats the thing i dont like about VS .. it only getves ytou them member name.. where JDT i like better it puts to the right of it the implmnenting reason that member is there [21:20:47] *** atomi- has quit IRC [21:21:33] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Not sure I follow. Are we talking about the same thing? ;) [21:21:38] <dmiles_afk> (i i mean a horizontal scoll bar) thats the thing i dont like about VS .. it only gives you them member name.. where JDT i like better, becasue it puts to the right of the member .. the implmentor's name [21:22:12] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: By implementor's name you mean the package name? [21:22:54] <dmiles_afk> like toString()String - Object vs toString()String - AbstractStringifier [21:23:31] <rcjsuen> I wasn't talking about that scenario. [21:23:56] <rcjsuen> Although in your scenario the two strings look the same to me. [21:25:15] *** thaivinhhuy has quit IRC [21:25:44] <dmiles_afk> ok .. i thing i'd like the see the whole name in the content assist and the javadoc section [21:25:57] <rcjsuen> Both, huh? [21:26:03] <rcjsuen> I guess both would be useful. [21:26:22] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Thanks for your comment. [21:26:45] <dmiles_afk> but i'd want it to still be cltrl-space completion to make sense.. and not try to make me use the pageaged name [21:27:07] <rcjsuen> Rephrase that. [21:27:17] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: No offense but your typing seems to have gone down the drain today. [21:27:45] <rcjsuen> vwegert: That's odd, I always see my jobs fly by. [21:27:58] <rcjsuen> vwegert: Are you sure they're running? Did you put a breakpoint in the run(IPM) method and just "hang" it? [21:28:17] <vwegert> rcjsuen: I've just scheduled about ten of them, and the progress view shows two at most [21:28:32] <rcjsuen> Well, when I mean I see all of them I meant I see the one that's running. [21:28:37] <vwegert> rcjsuen: even more interesting: let's assume the progress view shows job 1 running and job 4 waiting. [21:28:38] <rcjsuen> I don't think I've ever tried scheduling ten jobs. [21:29:05] <dmiles_afk> if i type Stri<ctrl-space> i would only want (ng) to be offed.. but i'd like to see that it means to use java.lang.String .. but i dont want to expect to give it enough time to get the javadoc [21:29:26] <vwegert> rcjsuen: after job 1 is finished, it disappears from the view. Now job 2 kicks in (I can see that in the status line at the bottom), but it doesn't appear in the progress view. [21:29:27] *** chillmannek has quit IRC [21:29:36] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: you only want to see 'ng'? That's kinda odd imo [21:29:57] <rcjsuen> I think it helps to see the whole word, if i typed Array, then I only saw 'List', I might get confused :x [21:30:16] <rcjsuen> dmiles_afk: Thankfully, the javadoc popup runs on a non-UI thread, so that should technically never hang the UI. [21:30:19] <vwegert> rcjsuen: Closing and re-opening the progress view fixes the issue insofar that now job 2 (running) and job 4 (waiting) appear - but the other ones are still missing. [21:31:09] *** ricgomez has joined #eclipse [21:31:24] *** chillmannek has joined #eclipse [21:32:26] *** mhaller has quit IRC [21:32:38] *** kelaouchi has quit IRC [21:33:56] *** GNU_D has joined #Eclipse [21:34:53] <GNU_D> Hi, I need guide for building birt from cvs, please? [21:35:00] *** kjkoster5489 has quit IRC [21:35:47] <rcjsuen> GNU_D: What exactly is the problem [21:35:52] <benowar> Anyone ever removed a key-binding programmatically (execept for Paul) ;) ? [21:35:55] <GNU_D> I don't where to start [21:36:08] <rcjsuen> GNU_D: Let's ask another question, why are you building from CVS [21:36:43] <GNU_D> I need the desigher with only few features, without menu and so on [21:36:59] <rcjsuen> So did you check out the code from CVS? [21:37:20] <GNU_D> yes [21:37:20] <rcjsuen> benowar: I'm guessing that you can't do it through the service? [21:37:27] <rcjsuen> GNU_D: Have you ever build plug-ins before? [21:37:36] <GNU_D> for eclipse, no [21:37:38] <rcjsuen> Have you tested your code? [21:37:41] <benowar> rcjsuen: which service speficially? [21:37:50] <rcjsuen> ~api ICommandService [21:37:57] <rcjsuen> oh right, KOS-MOS went down [21:38:08] <GNU_D> rcjsuen: I haven't [21:38:38] <rcjsuen> GNU_D: Is everything even buitl? Do you have errors in the workspace? [21:38:43] <GNU_D> yes [21:38:52] <benowar> I can disable the command but the binding is still there [21:38:53] <GNU_D> I mean few [21:39:26] <GNU_D> where is the main project that must be built ? [21:40:02] <rcjsuen> Main project? [21:40:46] <GNU_D> I mean what file to build first ? [21:41:05] <GNU_D> My go is to integrate birt into my program. [21:41:15] <rcjsuen> benowar: IBindingService / BindingManager? [21:41:37] <rcjsuen> removeBinding(Binding) maybe, dunno, might work, might not ;) [21:41:48] <rcjsuen> GNU_D: Well, Eclipse just builds all the projects in your workspace, so [21:42:13] <rcjsuen> What kind of errors do you have? [21:42:42] <benowar> rcjsuen: yeah, bindingmanager sounds promising, thanks [21:43:11] <rcjsuen> benowar: np, good luck, sorry, I don't help Paul with these things, too deep for me ;) [21:43:22] <GNU_D> rcjsuen: wait to post the error [21:43:42] *** _seshf_ has joined #eclipse [21:44:53] <benowar> rcjsuen: yes "deep" is the right thing to call this ;) [21:45:23] <rcjsuen> deeeeeeeeeeeeeeep [21:45:43] <GNU_D> rcjsuen: Here are the error http://rafb.net/p/VToNzg32.html [21:46:23] <GNU_D> rcjsuen: How to build only the designer ? [21:46:30] <rcjsuen> GNU_D: You'll probably have to ask on the newsgroup. I don't do BIRT. [21:46:35] *** chillmann has quit IRC [21:46:53] <rcjsuen> benowar: Don't forget to share the solution if you figure it out. :) [21:47:18] <GNU_D> rcjsuen: Does birt has irc channel ? [21:47:36] <rcjsuen> GNU_D: Not that I know of. [21:47:41] <GNU_D> oh [21:48:11] <rcjsuen> "General" questions are usually resolved here, but otherwise... [21:48:34] *** Toni_ has joined #eclipse [21:49:17] *** Toni_ is now known as cachirro [21:49:22] <benowar> rcjsuen: actually you cant access BindingManager, but you can cast IBindingService to BindingService and then call removeBinding [21:49:29] <benowar> thats ugly, but I cant find a better solution right now [21:49:48] * benowar hates those methods that are only visible on internal classes [21:50:03] <cachirro> hi guys [21:50:08] <rcjsuen> Lemme check for alternate solutions. [21:50:11] <rcjsuen> cachirro: Hi [21:50:34] <cachirro> i've been trying to find info on a poblem i got, but haven't got sucess, so maybe you guys can help me, it's a simples question [21:51:37] <cachirro> when i run the .JAR i created, after using it and closing it, the javaw.exe stays in memory (and blocking file access), and i have to kill in the taskmgr. is this a problem in my code? or its realted to other thing? [21:51:44] *** Carnage\ has joined #eclipse [21:52:11] <rcjsuen> cachirro: Might want to try in ##java. Are you running the jar from the command line? [21:52:28] <cachirro> nah, just by double clicking it [21:52:35] <cachirro> it autostarts [21:53:11] <cachirro> so you think that it's nothing to do with my code in eclipse [21:53:42] *** GNU_D has left #Eclipse [21:54:44] <rcjsuen> Unlikely. [21:54:50] <rcjsuen> Unless you doubt Eclipse's compiler. [21:55:17] <rcjsuen> The problem is either with your code or with the JRE. I doubt Eclipse is to blame. [21:55:18] <cachirro> cool, gonna try the java channel then, thanks for helping [21:55:25] <cachirro> hmm [21:55:34] <rcjsuen> you are probably not cleaning everything up [21:55:36] <cachirro> my code could be a problem, cause i'm a newbie :P [21:55:41] <rcjsuen> or something or another [21:55:48] <cachirro> can you sugest anything for me to check? [21:55:48] <rcjsuen> is this a big app [21:55:57] <rcjsuen> what kind of app is this, a Swing app? [21:56:05] <cachirro> nah, 8K java [21:56:21] <rcjsuen> I mean in terms of lines of code. [21:56:23] <cachirro> i got swing and swt [21:56:47] <rcjsuen> Well, I guess the Swing/SWT bridge could be causing problems. [21:57:24] <rcjsuen> benowar: Yeah, doesn't really look like there's any public access, at least, not from a cursory check. [21:57:29] <cachirro> 300 lines [21:58:03] <rcjsuen> Did you try removing code so that it is really simple? [21:58:06] <rcjsuen> Does the problem persist? [21:58:25] <cachirro> no, but i can try that [21:59:01] <cachirro> is there any "must have" code in this kind of issue? [21:59:22] * rcjsuen shrugs. [21:59:29] <rcjsuen> How are you using both SWT and Swing anyway? [21:59:38] <rcjsuen> Maybe just open a window and close it and see what happens or something. [22:01:03] <cachirro> is there any command i must insert to release resources? [22:01:40] *** chillmannek has quit IRC [22:02:03] <cachirro> i'm extending JFrame, is there anything i must "release"? [22:02:08] *** Carnage\ has quit IRC [22:02:59] <benowar> rcjsuen: when looking at the KeysPreferencesPage it seems as if all bindings are copied to a local BindingManager then changes applied and all bindings written to preferences, thereby overriding any old ones. [22:03:04] <benowar> but I hope I am wrong ;) [22:03:05] <rcjsuen> cachirro: are you calling frame.setDefaultCloseOperation(JFrame.EXIT_ON_CLOSE); ? [22:03:15] <rcjsuen> benowar: har har [22:03:26] <cachirro> rcjsuen: no [22:03:33] <benowar> maybe I need to involve the IContextService too since bindings are defined for contexts [22:03:56] *** pombreda has quit IRC [22:07:18] <cachirro> rcjsuen: dude, you rock, problem solved :P [22:07:38] <rcjsuen> ok [22:08:08] <cachirro> thanks for helping rcjsuen, bye [22:08:13] *** cachirro has quit IRC [22:11:01] <benowar> rcjsuen interesting: "There is no public API for defining bindings. To try to achieve stability for the user, bindings are only defined through the extension points. If you are an RCP application, you should be able to override this behaviour in the WorkbenchAdvisor." [22:11:10] <benowar> (thats from the doc of binding extension point) [22:12:28] <benowar> I wish there was more info on how to change this IF one does a RCP app ;) [22:13:09] <rcjsuen> ;p [22:15:17] *** `m0 has quit IRC [22:18:16] *** dominikg has joined #eclipse [22:24:43] *** Imaginativeone has joined #eclipse [22:28:22] *** tskaufma has joined #eclipse [22:29:48] *** Imaginativeone has quit IRC [22:31:00] *** vwegert has quit IRC [22:31:01] *** Imaginativeone has joined #eclipse [22:32:29] *** dominikg has quit IRC [22:32:49] *** bugra has quit IRC [22:33:54] <tskaufma> Bug 196785 to support nested attributes on Tables has a working patch, but makes some changes to BeanObservables, does anyone know if the corresponding change exists in EMFObservables? [22:39:55] *** sama has joined #eclipse [22:41:46] *** dominikg has joined #eclipse [22:42:57] *** steegf has quit IRC [22:43:57] *** fsteeg has joined #eclipse [22:44:58] *** Ramosa has joined #eclipse [22:59:53] *** oisin has joined #eclipse [23:04:13] *** oisin has quit IRC [23:07:01] *** z` has joined #eclipse [23:10:16] <Imaginativeone> how do I add JUnit to my (previously made) project? [23:10:36] <Imaginativeone> on Windows, it was accessed from the G: drive [23:10:48] <Imaginativeone> but I'm working on my Mac at the moment [23:10:51] <Imaginativeone> how do I switch it? [23:12:10] <rcjsuen> Imaginativeone: That'd kind of depend on how your project is setup, I suppose. The quick-and-very-ugly way is to just create a new JUnit test case, and then tell Eclipse to add it to your project's build path. [23:12:21] <rcjsuen> there's an option in that wizard or something like that [23:12:22] <rcjsuen> afk [23:12:46] <Imaginativeone> yeah...that's what I tried, but it's still trying to reach the G: drive [23:12:51] *** JakovM has joined #eclipse [23:13:03] *** rorUnni has quit IRC [23:18:45] <robinr> Imaginativeone: you'd have to define "it" more precisely? What was on "G:"? [23:19:19] <Imaginativeone> junit.jar [23:20:14] <robinr> refere to the junit that's included with Eclipse instead. It's a "library" that you can refer to in your buildpath [23:20:48] <Imaginativeone> Severity and Description Path Resource Location Creation Time Id [23:20:49] <Imaginativeone> Project 'Lesson 02 - Java Basics' is missing required library: 'G:/Java/JUnit/junit-4.4.jar' Lesson 02 - Java Basics Build path 1200176411980 240 [23:21:08] <Imaginativeone> great! where do I find that? [23:21:28] <robinr> the properties of your project [23:23:09] <robinr> click on the project, select "Java Build Path" (to the left). Select the "libraries" tab. Remove the reference to g:... and click on the libraries button and pick junit [23:29:10] <Imaginativeone> robinr: THANKS! [23:35:05] *** dominikg has quit IRC [23:35:53] *** benowar has quit IRC [23:39:59] *** chillmann has joined #eclipse [23:52:46] *** ticapix has quit IRC [23:57:02] *** Imaginativeone has quit IRC