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[00:14:31] <Homie> guys Im trying to run a swing class and it works fine, but on the cosole appears that stuff http://pastebin.ca/850032
[00:14:34] <Homie> any idea ?
[00:15:25] <rcjsuen> I'd try googling.
[00:15:29] <rcjsuen> Do you have this problem on the command line?
[00:16:32] <MarcWeber> rcjsuen: The tm project has been exactly what I was looking for. Thanks
[00:16:46] <rcjsuen> MarcWeber: ok
[00:18:23] <Homie> rcjsuen: it seems to be some archtecture problem, cos I got i686 and it's showing something about i383 in the error... is it possible ?
[00:18:37] <Homie> /opt/java/jre/lib/i386/client/libjvm.so
[00:18:40] <rcjsuen> Homie: Irrelevant
[00:20:21] <Homie> It's so weird, thats the first time that i get this problem   =/
[00:20:38] <rcjsuen> Do you have this problem on the command line?
[00:22:13] <Homie> rcjsuen: no i dont
[00:22:37] <rcjsuen> Homie: Is it consistently reproducible in the Eclipse 'Console'?
[00:24:24] <Homie> yup
[00:24:44] <Homie> can it be some desktop theme that im using ?
[00:25:06] <Homie> cos only swing class give that error
[00:25:19] <rcjsuen> dunno, try googling and searching bugzilla
[00:25:34] <Homie> aight
[00:25:40] <Homie> rcjsuen: ty
[00:26:43] <rcjsuen> Homie: Does that happen even with very simple Swing applications?
[00:27:17] <Homie> yeah bro, even a simple JFrame
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[00:27:59] <rcjsuen> ~tell Homie about info
[00:28:00] <KOS-MOS> Homie: Please state your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), your Java runtime environment (unless you checked in your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, you do not know _for sure_, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), your Eclipse version, and where did you download Eclipse from.
[00:28:14] <njbartlett_> Need to verify whether it's the same Java version when running from Eclipse and running from command line.
[00:28:43] <rcjsuen> njbartlett_: ooo, good point
[00:30:29] <Homie> Eclipse> Compiler compliance level: 6
[00:30:30] <Homie>  javac -version
[00:30:30] <Homie> javac 1.6.0_03
[00:31:35] <rcjsuen> We're not talking about the compiler.
[00:32:55] <Homie> opsss, i got an error when tried java -version
[00:33:01] <Homie>  java -version
[00:33:02] <Homie> Error occurred during initialization of VM
[00:33:02] <Homie> java.lang.Error: Properties init: Could not determine current working directory.
[00:33:05] <Homie> 	at java.lang.System.initProperties(Native Method)
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[00:37:55] <njbartlett_> Homie: How are you able to launch your app from the command line if java -version doesn't work?
[00:38:15] <rcjsuen> njbartlett_: one of the mysteries of life
[00:39:31] <Homie> dunno what happened, but now is working again
[00:40:09] <Homie> here's 2 jdk installed, 1.5 n 1.6 I'll remove one of them n try again
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[00:42:25] <njbartlett_> Sounds like a **cked up Java installation.
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[00:54:54] <kuchenhure> I'm having a problem getting the C++ compiler to work wit my eclipse, could anyone give me a quick hand please?
[00:55:54] <kuchenhure> indow 3
[00:55:56] <rcjsuen> kuchenhure: Elaborating on the problem would give you better chances. I'd also suggest you try the CDT newsgroup.
[00:56:10] <kuchenhure> Thanks. Damn wireless keyboard.
[00:56:53] <kuchenhure> When I download the CDT am I supposed to take the files and drop them into the corresponding folders in my eclipse folder?
[00:57:21] <rcjsuen> kuchenhure: That's one way of going about it, yes.
[00:58:07] <kuchenhure> It's apparently not going to work my way, hehe.
[00:58:37] <rcjsuen> ?
[00:58:42] <rcjsuen> What is "not working"
[00:58:58] <kuchenhure> I'm not sure, is it supposed to let me create a new C++ project?
[00:59:54] <d_a_carver> kuchenhure: have you checked the CDT faq?
[01:00:05] <kuchenhure> Yes
[01:00:35] <njbartlett_> kuchenhure: Can you see ANYTHING in Eclipse that looks like C/C++ support? If not, you haven't installed CDT properly.
[01:00:46] <rcjsuen> ~tell kuchenhure about clean
[01:00:47] <KOS-MOS> kuchenhure: Please try restarting Eclipse with the '-clean' argument. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_have_just_installed_a_plug-in_but_I_do_not_see_any_indication_of_it_in_my_workspace._What_do_I_do.3F
[01:00:50] <rcjsuen> Make sure you 'clean'.
[01:00:56] <rcjsuen> if you're doing the air strike approach
[01:01:15] <d_a_carver> http://wiki.eclipse.org/CDT/User/FAQ#C.2FC.2B.2B_Project_Creation
[01:01:42] <thnee> how can i change what eclipse should do when it autobuilds a project? are there build configurations aswell?
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[01:02:12] <d_a_carver> thnee what are you trying to do?
[01:02:25] <kuchenhure> hmm. using bash does it go eclipse -clean still?
[01:02:38] <thnee> d_a_carver: texlipse doesnt build my references, only my .tex
[01:02:38] <rcjsuen> kuchenhure: Yes, no difference. ./eclipse -clean
[01:02:48] <kuchenhure> Ahh. Thanks
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[01:04:44] <d_a_carver> thnee: probably best asking that on their support forum as that is plugin specific.  Check their sourceforge forum: http://texlipse.sourceforge.net/
[01:04:52] <kuchenhure> Apparently Ruby is dominating my eclipse so much it doesn't want to let C++ through :P
[01:05:49] <thnee> d_a_carver: i asked in the channel, and yes, this is not eclipse specific, but it would still be nice to be able to construct your own build configurations
[01:05:59] <thnee> or is that built into the plugin completely?
[01:06:39] <rcjsuen> "build configurations"?
[01:06:46] <rcjsuen> Depends how you define a 'build configuration'.
[01:06:48] <njbartlett_> kuchenhure: No, Eclipse doesn't work like that
[01:07:30] <kuchenhure> I know, I'm kidding ;)
[01:07:59] <kuchenhure> It keeps locking up when I try to get into update manager, Ah... I'll do it when I get back home.
[01:10:05] <zx|cafe_> if you have a firewall, make sure it loves Eclipse
[01:10:28] <kuchenhure> ohhh yeah.
[01:10:39] <kuchenhure> Thanks
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[01:20:24] <d_a_carver> thnee: you could always use an Ant build script, and add that to the builder for your project.  Bring up the properties for your project, and select the Builder category I think.
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[01:22:12] <thnee> d_a_carver: do you really think an Ant script is suitable for a latex project?
[01:23:13] <d_a_carver> thnee: I think it's suitable to any project, it's just a scripting language.
[01:25:13] <thnee> okay
[01:25:22] <d_a_carver> remey we need a cdt-faq command in KOS-MOS.
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[04:07:45] <kuchenhure> I have ruby eclipse and I've tried installing the C++ CDT but I still can't make cpp projects ... any ideas? thanks
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[04:12:05] <schnoowork> does anyone use ubuntu and managed to get europe installed on it ?
[04:12:34] <kuchenhure> that's the same problem i believe i'm having.
[04:13:07] <schnoowork> yeah i kind of dont want to compile from binary :P and am wondering if there is any bleed edge stuff for it
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[04:19:02] <rcjsuen_> kuchenhure: Help > About Eclipse SDK > Plug-in Details, do you see CDT?
[04:19:13] <rcjsuen_> schnoowork: Just download the binary, no need to compile it.
[04:19:28] <rcjsuen_> schnoowork: Just a tarball, extract, ./eclipse, the end.
[04:20:12] <kuchenhure> when i try to update it just freezes up.
[04:20:21] <kuchenhure> let me look.
[04:21:19] <kuchenhure> i see c/c++ development user
[04:21:23] <kuchenhure> so i guess it's in there, right?
[04:21:34] <rcjsuen_> Sounds like it.
[04:21:37] <rcjsuen_> kuchenhure: File > New > Project
[04:21:40] <rcjsuen_> Nothing there?
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[04:21:54] <kuchenhure> so how do i get it off this ruby crap and get it back to a default eclipse profile?
[04:22:00] <kuchenhure> nope, nothing about cpp
[04:22:47] <rcjsuen> kuchenhure: Window > Open Perspective > Other
[04:24:09] <kuchenhure> i see.
[04:24:11] <kuchenhure> hmmm
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[04:39:51] <schnoowork> rcjsuen, will that build it into my menu system in ubuntu or anything like that or do i need to do that customly ?
[04:40:36] <rcjsuen> schnoowork: You'd have to add your own menu item.
[04:40:44] <schnoowork> ahh ok ill try it out :)
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[06:10:16] <AndyCR> I can't seem to find the preference to change the editor background color
[06:10:28] <AndyCR> Does anyone know where it is?
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[10:01:12] <jgoo> how can I have the current package of the file I am editing show in the title of the window?
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[10:01:47] <jgoo> 3.2.1 version
[10:02:11] <jgoo> Last time I asked, someone said that they always see the package showing in the title of the window... :-/
[10:07:48] <jgoo> I've googled for 'show package name in eclipse window title' and others, also looked through prefs - does anyone here see  the package of the current editing file in the window title?
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[10:32:09] <deanc> Does anyone know how I can enhance code-folding usind the PDT (PHP development tool/plugin) to allow code folding for if statements/loops. At the moment it's only working for function braces and /* */ style comment
[10:32:12] <deanc> *comments
[10:33:34] <Carnage\> jgoo: What do you mean by "have"?
[10:33:41] <Carnage\> Get its string representation?
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[10:47:43] <jgoo> Carnage\ what you are asking is 'what do I mean by 'see the package showing in the title of the window'
[10:48:29] <Carnage\> You only see the path of the file you're currently editing in the title
[10:48:36] <Carnage\> However, you can easily derive the package name from it
[10:48:38] <jgoo> How can I do that?
[10:48:48] <jgoo> I checked all over the place to find it... in preferences etc.
[10:51:35] <jgoo> Carnage\ do you know? does yours show the file path currently? I am looking in prefs now... for the 10th time... :/
[10:53:12] <Carnage\> In the Java perspective, my title shows "Java - <project name>/<path to current file>
[10:53:18] <Carnage\> In the Java perspective, my title shows "Java - <project name>/<path to current file> - Eclipse SDK"
[10:54:12] <jgoo> well. mine doesn't. Says Java - SecretPlotToKIllBush.java - Eclipse SDK
[10:55:18] <jgoo> I am working on a project that is imperative to world security :p, ah well, I can live with it for now... emacs shows me the path though....
[10:55:23] <jgoo> Carnage\ what version you using?
[10:55:32] <Carnage\> 3.3.1.1
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[10:56:28] <jgoo> hrm. hrm. hrm. .... hrm.... /gives up
[10:56:30] <jgoo> ok thanks
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[12:11:41] <lnxnt_> exit
[12:11:43] <lnxnt_> exit
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[13:02:33] <Sukh0i> Can anyone tell me how to envoke SourceViewerConfiguration of SampleXMLEditor from button? I would like to refresh the Editor?
[13:03:03] <Sukh0i> I can't figure it out.
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[13:07:09] <pdani_> hi
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[13:07:34] <pdani_> what should i use in eclipse for drawing UML diagrams, and maybe generate code (python) from it?
[13:09:05] <Sukh0i> Draw2D?
[13:09:39] <pdani_> in eclipse
[13:09:54] <pdani_> what extension
[13:10:37] <Sukh0i> http://www.planeteclipse.net/articles/Article-GEF-Draw2d/GEF-Draw2d.html
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[13:51:21] <rcjsuen> deanc: You'd probably have to file patches directly.
[13:52:00] <rcjsuen> Sukh0i: You're not really supposed to "invoke" it.
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[14:02:13] <Sukh0i> rcjsuen: What should I do than?
[14:03:09] <Sukh0i> I'm having big problems with that
[14:03:26] <Sukh0i> And have no idea how to solve it :)
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[14:11:40] <rcjsuen> ~tell Sukh0i about api AbstractTextEditor#affectsTextPresentation(PropertyChangeEvent)
[14:11:41] <KOS-MOS> Sukh0i: AbstractTextEditor#affectsTextPresentation - The javadoc search results could not be processed.
[14:11:50] <rcjsuen> ~api AbstractTextEditor
[14:11:51] <KOS-MOS> org.eclipse.ui.texteditor.AbstractTextEditor - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/ui/texteditor/AbstractTextEditor.html
[14:12:07] <rcjsuen> Sukh0i: look at the affectsTextPresentation method
[14:13:51] <cbosdonnat> Hi all
[14:13:56] <rcjsuen> cbosdonnat: Hi
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[14:24:14] <Sukh0i> hmn hmn
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[14:50:56] <Sukh0i> Where can I see which menubarPath's can be used?
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[14:53:33] <paulweb515> Sukh0i: in what context?  the main menu (actionSets?)
[14:56:45] <Sukh0i> I would like actionSets to appear somewhere else than innavigate/show.ext
[14:57:59] <Sukh0i> But I don't know the names of menubarPath
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[15:02:36] <Sukh0i> paulweb515: do you have any idea?
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[15:06:01] <paulweb515> Sukh0i: have a look at WorkbenchActionBuilder ... in the SDK/IDE, that defines the main menu structure.
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[15:06:23] <paulweb515> Sukh0i: that will tell you both the main IDs (like file, edit, help) and group markers that are also provided
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[15:08:25] <amitev> is there a free eclipse plugin for visualization of ant build.xml
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[15:19:59] <z4z4> amitev : try Ant Explorer from http://www.yworks.com
[15:20:54] <z4z4> I used it some time ago, and it gave interesting results
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[15:23:11] <roots_> yeah there stuff is cool
[15:23:28] <roots_> also you could make a DAG drawing using graphviz
[15:23:38] <roots_> there is even a mediawiki plugin
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[15:48:16] <jeffrey_> hi
[15:52:01] <rcjsuen> jeffrey_: Hi
[15:52:20] <jeffrey_> I wrote my program and suddenly I can't see my GUI anymore.  Eclipse says: "Parse Error" in the status bar
[15:52:31] <jeffrey_> hHw can I solve this problem
[15:52:39] <jeffrey_> *How
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[15:53:39] <rcjsuen> ~tell jeffrey_ about logs
[15:53:40] <KOS-MOS> jeffrey_: Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located.3F
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[15:56:06] <jeffrey_> ~pastebin
[15:56:07] <KOS-MOS> Please paste the relevant information to a pastebin - http://rafb.net/paste/ - http://pastebin.com - http://pastebin.ca
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[15:58:46] <jeffrey_> http://rafb.net/p/uq4DXD71.html
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[15:59:32] <rcjsuen> jeffrey_: If you can reproduce the problem consistently, file a bug.
[15:59:42] <rcjsuen> attaching the Java source file would be helpful
[16:00:21] <jeffrey_> just a minute
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[16:01:38] <jeffrey_> http://rafb.net/p/CYI8SW81.html
[16:01:41] <jeffrey_> http://rafb.net/p/Mumkgj31.html
[16:01:49] <lemmy> Does anybody know what has happened to eclipse.org/ece?
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[16:02:57] <rcjsuen> ECE?
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[16:03:12] <rcjsuen> jeffrey_: I mean, attaching the Java source to the bug.
[16:03:19] <lemmy> rcjsuen, Eclipse charting engine which is a part of birt
[16:05:19] <jeffrey_> sorry.. i don't know what you mean
[16:05:26] <rcjsuen> lemmy: Maybe it is under BIRT now?
[16:05:34] <rcjsuen> jeffrey_: File a bug, and attach the Java source files to your bug.
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[16:06:20] <jeffrey_> how can i do this
[16:06:59] <rcjsuen> ~tell jeffrey_ about eclipse bugs
[16:07:15] <rcjsuen> ~tell jeffrey_ about g eclipse bugs
[16:07:15] <KOS-MOS> jeffrey_: Try googling - http://google.com/search?q=eclipse+bugs
[16:07:15] <rcjsuen> hm
[16:07:15] <rcjsuen> ~g test
[16:07:15] <KOS-MOS> Try googling - http://google.com/search?q=test
[16:07:15] <rcjsuen> there we go
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[16:08:30] <jeffrey_> sorry but my engish isn't the best
[16:12:00] <lemmy> rcjsuen, it is definitely in the birt cvs, but why do they move an independent component into birt in the first place? birt as a whole is much harder to consume.
[16:12:02] <rcjsuen> No worries.
[16:12:22] <rcjsuen> lemmy: You said it is a part of birt, you mean a birt dep?
[16:12:33] <rcjsuen> what have I done to deserve this http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4508058
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[16:12:45] <lemmy> No, it is in the birt ns.
[16:12:49] <rcjsuen> Guess I'll need to workaround this.
[16:13:07] <rcjsuen> lemmy: Well, if it's independent, you'll still only need to consume itself anyway, no?
[16:13:25] <rcjsuen> You'll still be able to, I guess I mean to say.
[16:13:30] <lemmy> Which is a lot harder if the project is integrated. ;)
[16:13:54] <rcjsuen> lemmy: Not sure I follow, ECE are all "standalone" plug-ins, no?
[16:14:02] <rcjsuen> If they are an "independent component".
[16:14:08] <rcjsuen> Unless you mean in terms of feature bundling.
[16:14:16] <lemmy> standalone in terms of OSGi and plain java or Birt?
[16:14:45] <rcjsuen> You seem to have made the claim that ECE is an "independent component".
[16:14:47] <rcjsuen> So I took it as meaning
[16:15:05] <rcjsuen> "ECE are a set OSGi bundles that have no dependency on BIRT even though they are called org.eclipse.birt.blah"
[16:15:14] <lemmy> right
[16:15:16] <jeffrey_> sorry but i cant fidn it
[16:15:33] <rcjsuen> oh yo umean it is gone from cvs too?
[16:15:38] <rcjsuen> wait, nm
[16:15:43] <rcjsuen> ~tell jeffrey_ about bugs
[16:15:43] <KOS-MOS> jeffrey_: Eclipse Bugzilla - https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/
[16:15:49] <rcjsuen> jeffrey_: first hit on Google
[16:16:26] <jeffrey_> i already was on that site
[16:16:47] <rcjsuen> so what's wrong
[16:17:02] <rcjsuen> jeffrey_: On the right hand side, there is a 'Report a new bug.' link.
[16:17:09] <rcjsuen> This is where you "file" bugs.
[16:17:36] <jeffrey_> but i am not a member
[16:17:54] <rcjsuen> jeffrey_: Yes, so you need to create an account.
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[16:50:12] <InsomniaCity> Hey! Is there a tool in Eclipse to generate documentation from my WSDL?
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[16:55:45] <qwertyuio> Hi!
[16:56:06] <rcjsuen> qwertyuio: Hi
[16:57:00] <qwertyuio> I need to close an SWT window from another thread. Any hint?
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[16:57:19] <rcjsuen> qwertyuio: Did you try closing it from another thread?
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[16:57:42] <krbarnes> display.asyncExec(Runnable)
[16:59:31] <qwertyuio> krbarnes: ok... and then? Shell[] shells = Display.getDefault().getShells(); shells[0].close  ????
[17:00:03] <rcjsuen> qwertyuio: that's kind of hack-y, don't you have a reference to your shel
[17:00:09] <njbartlett_> qwertyuio: You should already have the reference to the window you want to close
[17:00:34] * rcjsuen has a feeling 'final' is going to be involved here.
[17:01:23] <krbarnes> qwertyuio: I assumed you already had the shell...
[17:01:26] <qwertyuio> rcjsuen: well... uess... 	public static Shell myShell = SWTUtil.getShell(SWT.CLOSE);
[17:01:49] <qwertyuio> rcjsuen: well... yes: public static Shell myShell = SWTUtil.getShell(SWT.CLOSE);
[17:01:59] <rcjsuen> so myShell.close()?
[17:02:32] <qwertyuio> rcjsuen: myShell.close() should close it, but it doesn't... :(
[17:02:53] <rcjsuen> I guess you could also dispose().
[17:02:56] <rcjsuen> define "doesn't"
[17:03:10] <krbarnes> close() doesn't close()? what platform are you on?
[17:03:19] <qwertyuio> rcjsuen: doesn't = does not == it just keeps on running...
[17:03:34] <qwertyuio> rcjsuen: dispose doesn't work either..
[17:03:35] <rcjsuen> errors in the console?
[17:03:38] <njbartlett_> qwertyuio: I suspect you're closing a different shell to the one you think you're closing.
[17:03:40] <qwertyuio> rcjsuen: none
[17:03:43] <rcjsuen> sounds like you have other problems
[17:03:50] <rcjsuen> pastebin your code
[17:04:09] <rcjsuen> njbartlett_: possibly
[17:04:28] <qwertyuio> I can't. The whole code is quite huge...
[17:04:52] <rcjsuen> I can't really help you then
[17:05:11] <qwertyuio> rcjsuen: do I need to run the close() or dispose() from asyncExec?
[17:05:11] <rcjsuen> I'd recommend you copy/paste some here and there and try to make a small, contained, reproducible test case.
[17:05:14] <rcjsuen> Or pastebin the whole file
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[17:05:16] <roots_> qwertyuio: close()
[17:05:17] <njbartlett_> qwertyuio: Then you need to reduce it to a simple example that demonstrates the problem.
[17:05:31] <rcjsuen> qwertyuio: yes, if you're not in the UI thread
[17:05:34] <rcjsuen> did you even try closing it from a non-UI thread?
[17:05:46] <qwertyuio> rcjsuen: sure... :P
[17:05:57] <rcjsuen> qwertyuio: http://www.eclipse.org/swt/faq.php#uithread
[17:06:02] <njbartlett_> qwertyuio: If you can't do that... well, I do consulting, my rates are reasonable. Which city and country are you in?
[17:06:05] <roots_> close() on the ui thread
[17:06:07] <roots_> not dispose()
[17:06:31] <qwertyuio> njbartlett_: thanks... the point is that I have no money... :P :D
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[17:07:33] <qwertyuio> I'll try the asyncExec again... :) thanks!
[17:12:22] <rorUnni> hello, is there a good place to "wait" for changes in a diagram in a gmf based editor? the editpolicies feel somewhat "spammy" to me, and the notifications in the editparts are ok, but its feels like i'm at the bottom when doing stuff there ;)
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[17:13:58] <rorUnni> i'm trying to automatically apply the layout(arrangeAll) whenever something changes, i got the arrangement stuff done, but the place where i do it, doesn't feel right ;)
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[17:53:57] <robot_jesus> sup peeps
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[18:07:36] <joeamined> hi
[18:07:51] <joeamined> how to avoid out of memory crash please ?
[18:08:05] <joeamined> it happens very frequently
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[18:10:31] <mnereson> Anyone know of a jsp format plugin that gives me a lot of options and control over the format?
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[18:13:36] <robot_jesus> ~out of memory
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[18:13:41] <robot_jesus> ~memory
[18:13:41] <KOS-MOS> Having memory problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
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[18:22:10] <progzy> Hi ! I have a file in the file explorer that I don't see whereas I can see it in the windows explorer... Any idea please ?
[18:22:58] <progzy> Even if I refresh I can not see it.
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[18:32:35] <paulweb515_> progzy: do you mean in the eclipse project explorer? Package Explorer? Or Resource Navigator?
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[18:35:03] <progzy> paulweb515 : navigator
[18:35:11] <progzy> en php explorer too
[18:35:18] <progzy> (I use the pdt plugin)
[18:35:26] <rcjsuen> robot_jesus: Hi
[18:35:38] <rcjsuen> ~tell joeamined about memory
[18:35:38] <KOS-MOS> joeamined: Having memory problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
[18:35:54] <rcjsuen> progzy: Is it a hidden file? Did you press F5 to refresh?
[18:35:59] <paulweb515_> progzy: there's usually a thing on filters in the view dropdown menu
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[18:37:46] <progzy> paulweb515 : excuse me I am new to eclipse ... but I can not see a view menu ...
[18:38:48] <rcjsuen> progzy: In a view, there is a down-arrow
[18:38:53] <rcjsuen> on the top right hand corner of the view
[18:39:10] <progzy> ok .. I got it ..;
[18:40:20] <progzy> But it is a php file and I can see all of them except this one :\
[18:40:29] <progzy> Filtering on PHP files is off
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[18:41:16] <LordMetroid> wtf, there is a channel for an IDE?
[18:41:26] <LordMetroid> cool
[18:41:37] <rcjsuen> progzy: Is it a hidden file? Did you press F5 to refresh?
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[18:42:04] <progzy> rcjsuen : I pressed "refresh" but I could not get it ...
[18:42:11] <robot_jesus> hey rcjsuen
[18:42:15] <robot_jesus> :)
[18:42:39] <progzy> But now .. I ve just pressed refresh I am able to see it ... Strnge ...
[18:42:43] <rcjsuen> progzy: What is the name of the file, can you take a screenshot of the PHP Explorer and the Windows Explorer?
[18:42:45] <progzy> *strange
[18:42:46] <rcjsuen> progzy: I see.
[18:43:40] <progzy> I ve just noticed a dir too which I had renamed ... It was not renamed in the navigator ...
[18:43:47] <progzy> Now everything is ok ...
[18:43:54] <progzy> Don't know what happended
[18:44:16] <progzy> Thanks all :)
[18:44:33] <progzy> I hope I won't get this problem often ...
[18:44:56] <dominikg> you will get this every time you rename a dir outside of eclipse and don't refresh
[18:45:17] <progzy> dominikg : I refreszhed
[18:45:30] <progzy> and DID NOT work
[18:46:32] <progzy> Anyway I congratulate the developer. I have it since few days and it is best than my DW :p
[18:46:38] <progzy> *developpers
[18:46:43] <rcjsuen> "DW"?
[18:47:05] <progzy> Dreamweaver -> WYSWIG HTML editor etc ...
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[18:47:19] <rcjsuen> ah, Dreamweaver
[18:47:29] <progzy> I know most of devellopers says it sucks ...
[18:47:48] <rcjsuen> you mean your peers?
[18:47:58] <progzy> My peers ?
[18:48:09] <rcjsuen> you said "most of developers"
[18:48:14] <rcjsuen> So I'm assuming you mean your coworkers.
[18:48:32] <progzy> Ah .. I read a lot of things on it on the web ...
[18:48:49] <progzy> not my peers
[18:48:56] <rcjsuen> oic
[18:49:31] <progzy> Now I m just waiting for the smarty plugin :)
[18:49:57] <progzy> I also like a PEAR plugin integration ... Don't know if it is possible
[18:50:23] <robot_jesus> does DW have that ?
[18:50:30] <robot_jesus> DW does suck for development :P
[18:50:45] <progzy> :p
[18:50:55] <progzy> It has nothing
[18:51:02] <progzy> pretty nothing
[18:51:04] <dominikg> cya
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[18:51:53] <progzy> I often use a factory method to get my objects ; is there a way to make eclipse recognize this object so I can get the methods/attributes ?
[18:52:26] <rcjsuen> "Recognize"?
[18:52:51] <rcjsuen> Perhaps the better question is, what are you doing and what do you expect the tool to do
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[18:55:24] <progzy> rcjsuen : It seems not possible to acess the methods if one does not use the "new" operator
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[18:55:47] <progzy> eclipse does not know what class it referes to
[18:56:03] <progzy> (I guess)
[18:57:07] <rcjsuen> progzy: File an RFE to PDT then.
[18:58:56] <progzy> rcjsuen : don't know yet what it is but I will read doc about that. Thanks.
[18:59:40] <rcjsuen> progzy: Request For Enhancement
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[19:22:17] <dsuch> Hi there, for some reaons, right after installing Eclipse SDK Version: 3.3.1.1 Build id: M20071023-1652 (Windows XP) it hasn't started to autocomplete my statements and pressing ctrl-space shows only "No Default Proposals". Short of restoring the defaults (which I haven't changed but I did it anyway) do you guys have perhaps any other suggestion what I can do with it?
[19:22:57] <dsuch> I don't think there's any stacktrace generated anywhere (I don't even see a log file, truth is).
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[19:25:23] <dsuch> Hm hm hm, the FAQ's interesting indeed ;-)
[19:26:15] <dsuch> Of course, I wasn't using JDK..
[19:27:05] <dsuch> But shouldn't attributes & methods of own classes be visible after ctrl-space?
[19:27:57] <dsuch> *my own
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[19:34:31] <b0r3d> hi. I just installed eclipse on linux.. and checked out a java project from svn.. is it possible that i don't hava the java perspective installed? because the java code appears as a normal text file without any colors and so on
[19:35:28] <rcjsuen> b0r3d: how did you install it
[19:35:34] <b0r3d> urpmi
[19:35:34] <__zzz__> b0r3d: right click on the java class and try "open with" -> java editor
[19:36:03] <__zzz__> b0r3d: perhaps an file extension assignment problem
[19:36:07] <__zzz__> =
[19:36:08] <b0r3d> i don't see a java editor
[19:36:09] <__zzz__> ?
[19:36:20] <TomTom> JDT
[19:36:25] <b0r3d> aha
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[19:37:51] <b0r3d> yeah.. i'm installing JDT now
[19:38:14] <rcjsuen> b0r3d: urpmi?
[19:38:23] <b0r3d> no
[19:38:26] <b0r3d> through eclipse
[19:38:32] <__zzz__> does anybody know a good tutorial (with video/screenshots) about developing web services with eclipse in tomcat ?
[19:38:35] <rcjsuen> what is urpmi
[19:38:54] <__zzz__> using axis/axis2
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[19:39:08] <b0r3d> urpmi - rpm downloader, installer and dependency solver
[19:39:32] <rcjsuen> ah
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[19:48:46] <b0r3d> i thought java perspective would be installed by default with eclipse
[19:49:39] <rcjsuen> b0r3d: Eclipse is a platform, it knows nothing about the Java tooling.
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[19:52:49] <mh_le> how can I clear the 'problems' list?
[19:53:02] <rcjsuen> mh_le: Clear?
[19:53:14] <rcjsuen> You can't just magically delete compilatino errors
[19:53:59] <b0r3d> lol eclipse just crashed
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[19:54:21] <rcjsuen> b0r3d: That's why I recommend people use the Eclipse binary from eclipse.org.
[19:54:35] <rcjsuen> b0r3d: You should file a bug to your distro tho.
[19:55:17] <mh_le> rcjsuen: I just want to clear previous errors
[19:55:42] <rcjsuen> mh_le: How does one define "previous"
[19:56:49] <mh_le> like other peoject I'm not working on ATM
[19:57:01] <rcjsuen> how do you define "not working"
[19:57:08] <rcjsuen> If you close a project, the markers should go poof.
[19:57:09] <rcjsuen> if not ,bug
[20:00:52] <ekuleshov> hi folks
[20:01:00] <rcjsuen> ekuleshov: Hi
[20:01:44] <ekuleshov> does anyone remeber if there is something in jface that can show message dialog similar to MessageDialog but with hyperlinks in the message text?
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[20:02:33] <ekuleshov> rcjsuen: hi Remy
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[20:56:54] <secureT> how to enable drag  and drop of text?
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[21:01:35] <rcjsuen> secureT: In existing editors?
[21:01:38] <pombreda> ekuleshov: happy new year Sir!
[21:01:51] <rcjsuen> Haven't ever pondered over such a feature myself.
[21:02:06] <secureT> rcjsuen: in eclipse
[21:02:27] <rcjsuen> secureT: Very well. In existing editors of Eclipse?
[21:02:42] <ekuleshov> pombreda: hey. happy new year to you too Philippe :-)
[21:03:10] <secureT> rcjsuen: yeah
[21:03:57] <rcjsuen> secureT: Works fine for me in the Java editor.
[21:04:04] <rcjsuen> select text, click, drag, release mouse
[21:04:50] <secureT> php too?
[21:05:20] <rcjsuen> secureT: I don't do PHP.
[21:05:25] <secureT> 3.3.0
[21:05:42] <rcjsuen> I don't use 3.3.0.
[21:06:17] <pombreda> ekuleshov: something like the links to toggle to setup prefs ?
[21:06:29] <pombreda> MessageDialogWithToogle or something like that?
[21:06:55] <secureT> rcjsuen: what u use it doesnt work for me neihter java nor php
[21:07:12] <rcjsuen> secureT: I20080108-1320
[21:07:30] <pombreda> ekuleshov: org.eclipse.jdt.internal.ui.dialogs.SortMembersMessageDialog may be something to look at and its super class if that is what you mean
[21:07:32] <pombreda> need toi run
[21:07:33] <pombreda> bbl
[21:07:45] <secureT>  I20070625-1500
[21:07:57] <ekuleshov> pombreda: I figured it out. overwritten createCustomArea() in MessageDialogWithToogle , though it would be nice to have these hyperlinks right in the main message. :-(
[21:08:21] <ekuleshov> pombreda: thnx
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[21:10:05] <rcjsuen> ~tell secureT about info
[21:10:05] <KOS-MOS> secureT: Please state your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), your Java runtime environment (unless you checked in your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, you do not know _for sure_, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), your Eclipse version, and where did you download Eclipse from.
[21:10:40] <ekuleshov> pombreda: I guess I may as well overwrite createMessageArea()...
[21:10:53] <secureT> i know i use 1.6
[21:13:11] <secureT> x86 win2000 1.6  downloaded from Eclipse.org where is the log?
[21:13:25] <rcjsuen> secureT: I don't think logs really matter here.
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[21:15:39] <dominikg> secureT, my guess is that the php editor doesn't support dragging (jet). Its not as mature as the java editor ... btw. are you using pdt or phpclipse?
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[21:16:06] <rcjsuen> I don't see this functionality in 3.2.2 anyway.
[21:16:18] <rcjsuen> secureT: Did you try with regular text?
[21:16:20] <secureT> pdt,  but it doesnt work in java too
[21:16:25] <rcjsuen> It works in the text editor for me too.
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[21:16:34] <rcjsuen> It might've been implemented in the 3.4.x stream.
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[21:16:46] * dominikg starts 3.3.0 to find out
[21:16:50] <FanBoy> Anyone familar with the eclipse profiling pluging TPTP?
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[21:17:08] <rcjsuen> FanBoy: Just ask the real question.
[21:17:42] <tobiash> hi. how can i use jface databinding with my own implementation of observables? documentation says I shouldnt be implementing IObservable
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[21:18:24] <FanBoy> Well the TPTP goes on about the Agent thing being optional but it quite clearly doesnt work without the Agent
[21:18:41] <dominikg> secureT, dragging text works for me in java,xml and plain text editor. eclipse 3.3.0 Build id: I20070621-1340
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[21:19:23] <FanBoy> anyway, I set the Agent and TPTP up at work and it worked fine
[21:19:41] <FanBoy> now setting it up at home, and the Agent wont start, and the log is hopeless
[21:20:18] <dominikg> how do you try to drag? It should be mark -> hold down left mouse -> (cursor turns into caret with a rectangle) -> drag -> drop
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[21:21:20] <dominikg> to be exact, the caret is only there when you hover text (indicates position of drop)
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[21:29:22] <FanBoy> you cant drag text if Overwrite is set on (Ins key)
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[21:29:57] <FanBoy> Didnt see the question but it seems like someone is having issues dragging text :o
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[21:39:18] <Baltazaar> Hi. Ive never used Eclipse before. Is there a good Swing/GUI tool for Java development, like the one in Jbuilder?
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[21:54:52] <dominikg> ~tell Baltazaar about plugins
[21:54:53] <KOS-MOS> Baltazaar: Look for plug-ins at the Eclipse Plug-in Central (http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/) and EclipsePlugins (http://eclipse-plugins.info)
[21:54:59] <ekuleshov> pombreda: Philippe do you know by any chance how to open Eclipse help browser for some particular page? I can't figure out how to get hands on org.eclipse.help.browser.IBrowserFactory
[21:55:42] <dominikg> Baltazaar: there are several gui builder plugins, jigloo, swt-designer and VE are the most common ones
[21:56:07] <Baltazaar> VE is not maintained, no?
[21:56:24] <dominikg> don't let pombreda hear that ;)
[21:56:25] <robot_jesus> there is a nice commericla one
[21:56:33] <robot_jesus> ~google swt-designer
[21:56:45] <dominikg> robot_jesus, its ~g
[21:57:36] <robot_jesus> ~robot_jesus
[21:57:49] <robot_jesus> ~dominikg
[21:57:52] <robot_jesus> its not working
[21:58:10] <robot_jesus> ~get me a beer bitch
[21:58:13] <dominikg> ~g swt-designer
[21:58:14] <KOS-MOS> Try googling - http://google.com/search?q=swt-designer
[21:58:33] <dominikg> ~tell robot_jesus about list
[21:58:34] <KOS-MOS> robot_jesus: Check out the list of available messages and commands I provide - http://ecf.eclipse.org/~rcjsuen/messages.html - http://ecf.eclipse.org/~rcjsuen/commands.html
[21:58:35] <robot_jesus> ~only joking :)
[21:58:41] <Baltazaar> there it was... ;-)
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[22:04:57] <pombreda> hey
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[22:05:27] <pombreda> ekuleshov: about the help browser, I dunno on top of my head
[22:05:57] <pombreda> dominikg: no there are several excellent GUI builders out there. I am cool :-)
[22:06:06] <ekuleshov> pombreda: there is an internal BaseHelpSystem...
[22:06:29] <dominikg> pombreda, i was talking about VE not being maintained ;)
[22:07:13] <dominikg> btw. will there be a VE release for ganymede?
[22:08:05] <pombreda> dominikg: that is the half truth atm :-)
[22:08:06] <pombreda> yes there will
[22:08:21] <dominikg> nice!
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[22:10:00] <joeamined> hi
[22:10:25] <rcjsuen> joeamined: Hi
[22:10:30] <joeamined> when i open a java file in eclipse, it keeps on loading it and no longer responds !
[22:10:52] <joeamined> knowing my eclipse installation is from scratch !
[22:12:04] <joeamined> how can i fix this please'
[22:12:07] <joeamined> ?
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[22:13:20] <rcjsuen> joeamined: Are you on Linux / gtk+?
[22:14:47] <joeamined> yes
[22:15:20] <rcjsuen> joeamined: check the swt faq
[22:15:31] <joeamined> i tried the eclipse java bundle and the eclipse jee bundle
[22:15:36] <joeamined> same result for the two
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[22:15:55] <joeamined> rcjusen : so it is a known bug ?
[22:16:18] <rcjsuen> joeamined: I think I know which bug it is, doesn't mean it is that one.
[22:16:31] <joeamined> rcjsuen : it only happens when i try to open a java file, i mean eclipse opens, the project is created etc..
[22:16:43] <rcjsuen> joeamined: Does it happen with other editors?
[22:16:45] <joeamined> html, xml... files work okay too
[22:16:47] <joeamined> no
[22:16:50] <rcjsuen> o
[22:16:55] <joeamined> :P
[22:17:04] <joeamined> it's bizarre
[22:17:07] <rcjsuen> read the faq
[22:17:19] <joeamined> of swt ? or eclipse ?
[22:17:30] <rcjsuen> joeamined: see above
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[23:08:23] <kirkt> hey all. are there any mailing lists i can subscribe and learn from ?
[23:08:23] <d_a_carver> rcjsuen: you forget to ask joeamined if he was running gcj...should alwasy just do the ubuntu-3.3 command for them when they mention ubuntu.
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[23:09:06] <d_a_carver> newsgroups are some of your best sources, and www.planeteclipse.org/planet
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[23:11:25] <dominikg> kirkt, to keep up to date, i also check eclipse-plugins.info and eclipseplugincentral.com regularly (the new/updated plugins sections) .. eclipsezone.com is also worth a look from time to time. Some ppl also use google news alerts
[23:12:16] <njbartlett_> dominikg: EclipseZone is dead, alas
[23:12:23] <kirkt> dominikg i would like to learn from people's discussion of various topics in eclipse and software design.. i find reading entire discussion really informative
[23:14:43] <dominikg> njbartlett_, almost, but not entirely
[23:15:08] <njbartlett_> dominikg: Well it's only people like Ferd Gtort in there now :-)
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[23:30:22] <railbait> I have a java SE sdk installed right now that Eclipse is using, but I want to keep an application server and the j2ee environment separate, but all the while develop with Eclipse. Are there any issues I should watch out for?
[23:30:46] <railbait> Do I need different profiles for the classpath? Is there a way to automate that to keep the enterprise classpath out of the stuff that's supposed to just be in the personal apps?
[23:31:05] <caravena_> Howto http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entity-relationship_model with eclipse?
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[23:33:34] <heavenquake> anyone familiar with eclim?
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[23:36:31] <caravena_> I testing Azurry, and plugin azurry. Azurry problem for work.
[23:36:37] <caravena_> Other plugin?
[23:37:07] <caravena_> I testing Poseidon UML. Poseidon work with clases and plugin export to sql.
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[23:41:06] <SKuhn> hi, can I somewhere configure that the plugins from my platform are loaded BEFORE plugins in my workspace?  So if I've imported a plugin to workspace to be able to 'inspect' it, I still prefer the original to be loaded in my runtime even if I have the imported opened
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