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[00:32:19] <not_benh> hello all, I'm new to eclipse and have been installing plugins and now find my self stuck. I can not install anything because I seem to be missing org.eclipse.wst.sse.ui, org.eclipse.wst.server.core, and org.eclipse.jem. Is there a way that I can download and install these by hand?
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[00:32:30] <not_benh> if so where should I look to find these jars?
[00:32:49] <not_benh> or rather find what project these jars would be linked to?
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[00:34:16] <not_benh> I found WST in the updates but when I select that I get this error: java.lang.NullPointerException.
[00:34:22] <not_benh> Is there a way around this?
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[00:58:10] <gaillard_> anyone here good with manually using springlayout?
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[01:54:12] <spaceinvader> btw everyone that helped me the other night
[01:54:21] <spaceinvader> i just installed windows and ran the nokia thing there :P
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[02:20:16] <rcjsuen> not_benh: what plug-ins are you trying to install
[02:24:24] <gebi> hmm... how do i create a new java package inside an allready created package hirachy so that eclipse recognices it as ressource?
[02:24:58] <gebi> i've tried it with new>class> and create the class with the wanted package, but then the new package is external and eclipse breaks :(
[02:25:04] <rcjsuen> External?
[02:25:20] <rcjsuen> You need to have a proper source folder.
[02:25:22] <gebi> not recogniced as ressource but only as filesystem folder
[02:25:58] <rcjsuen> Please take a screenshot.
[02:26:10] <gebi> backtrace: http://paste.debian.net/46378
[02:26:29] <rcjsuen> hm
[02:27:02] <gebi> screen after new start: http://einsteinmg.dyndns.org/ss/gkrellShoot_01-08-08_021957.png
[02:27:25] <rcjsuen> Fascinating.
[02:27:27] <gebi> the ipc thing should be on the same level as svu.peer.input/interfaces
[02:27:57] <rcjsuen> Delete that folder, make sure it is deleted on the filesystem.
[02:28:07] <rcjsuen> then go thorugh the new class wizard again
[02:28:09] <rcjsuen> take a screenshot of that
[02:28:14] <rcjsuen> also pastebin your .project and .classpat hfiles
[02:28:41] <gebi> it does not delete the folder
[02:29:08] <gebi> folder>delete: are you shure you want to delete the folder >yes, but folder is still on the fs
[02:29:32] <rcjsuen> use F5 to try to refresh a few times
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[02:31:09] <gebi> if i delete the folder it reloads the overview on the left 2 times, first ipc disapears, at the second reload ipc reapears
[02:32:35] <gebi> can i just delete the folder from the workingcopy manually?
[02:33:18] <rcjsuen> just delete it from the file system and see what happens
[02:34:04] <gebi> ah... there is a .svn in that folder because i've allready commitet
[02:34:59] <gebi> ok thats the class creation dialog (the really same as the first time): http://einsteinmg.dyndns.org/ss/gkrellShoot_01-08-08_022635.png
[02:36:45] <gebi> project and classpath files: http://paste.debian.net/46380
[02:37:12] <gebi> that seems strange: <classpathentry excluding="svu/peer/ipc/|svu/peer/ipc/|svu/peer/ipc/" kind="src" path="src"/>
[02:41:59] <gebi> ok i've removed the strance excluding (really no idea why eclipse has added that) and restartet eclipse
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[02:53:39] <k0001> hello everyone here!
[02:53:55] <gebi> rcjsuen: ok the only remaining problem is that eclipse and svn went apart (eclipse coudln't delete the folder, in svn the folder had D state, ak. queued for deletion on next commit, but eclipse has never done that)
[02:54:19] <k0001> anyone knows where i can find some other color schemes for eclipse ? the default is killing my eyes
[02:55:05] <paulweb515_> k0001: you might be able to find some in plugin central
[02:55:08] <paulweb515_> ~plugins
[02:55:08] <KOS-MOS> Look for plug-ins at the Eclipse Plug-in Central (http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/) and EclipsePlugins (http://eclipse-plugins.info)
[02:55:58] <k0001> paulweb515, excelent! thanks i'll give a try
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[03:01:48] <gebi> is there a way to generate testmethod stubs for added functions to the unittest of the class under testing?
[03:02:12] <rcjsuen> Should be, I don't know how though.
[03:02:18] <rcjsuen> I thought there was an option for that.
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[03:04:29] <gebi> where would such an option be?
[03:05:10] <rcjsuen> in the wizard
[03:05:28] <gebi> rcjsuen: ah, from an allready created junittest ;)
[03:06:16] <gebi> e.g to sync the junittest with the class (add method stubs for missing testmethods)
[03:14:08] <gebi> how do i wakeup a java thread which blocks on a Selector?
[03:14:56] <rcjsuen> wakeup()?
[03:15:01] <rcjsuen> gebi: try asking in ##java
[03:17:24] <gebi> oh... but, ok that might get funny because then some message queues should know about the selector :(
[03:17:29] <gebi> thx
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[03:21:38] * gebi 's rule of thumb: always use the up to date sun api doc
[03:23:40] <gebi> rcjsuen: i can just use the Thread::interrupt() method for that :)
[03:23:40] <rcjsuen> Well, assuming you're using the most up-to-date JDK.
[03:24:19] <gebi> as we are using nio, yes (up-to-date jdk)
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[04:27:46] <gebi> why do i get out of memory exceptions all the time, even if i increased eclipse to >768MB ram?
[04:28:18] <gebi> does eclipse really nead that much memory?
[04:29:02] <rcjsuen> I don't have that problem. Maybe you are using many plug-ins?
[04:29:28] <gebi> only the subclipse plugin
[04:29:38] <rcjsuen> gebi: Where did you download Eclipse?
[04:29:43] <rcjsuen> actually
[04:29:46] <rcjsuen> ~tell gebi about info
[04:29:46] <KOS-MOS> gebi: Please state your CPU architecture (x86, 64-bit, etc.), operating system (Windows, Linux, Mac OSX, etc.), your Java runtime environment (unless you checked in your workspace logs and/or in the about dialog, you do not know _for sure_, please see ~jre. No, typing 'java -version' in the command line does not count as checking), your Eclipse version, and where did you download Eclipse from.
[04:30:26] <gebi> rcjsuen: ok, i'm using the ready packaged eclipse for amd64 from eclipse.org, on linux amd64 with 64bit sun jvm
[04:30:39] <rcjsuen> "ready packaged Eclipse"? Which one
[04:31:23] <gebi> org.eclipse.equinox.launcher_1.0.1.R33x_v20070828.jar
[04:32:00] <rcjsuen> talking about the dowlnoad site
[04:32:03] <rcjsuen> not some random jar file
[04:32:08] <nitind> And file name of the download.
[04:32:27] <nitind> Could it be PermGen failures?
[04:32:34] <rcjsuen> filename would be good
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[04:32:36] <gebi> eclipse-SDK-3.3.1.1-linux-gtk-x86_64.tar.gz
[04:33:02] <rcjsuen> so the standard sdk with subclipse running out of memory, hm
[04:34:05] <gebi> even a normal quick-fix invocation jumps the memory to >125MB from 40
[04:35:40] <rcjsuen> gebi: pastebin the contents of the eclipse/plugins folder with an 'ls'
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[04:40:06] <gebi> http://paste.debian.net/46385
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[04:41:35] <rcjsuen> Don't seem to see anything suspicious.
[04:41:44] <rcjsuen> ~tell gebi about memory
[04:41:45] <KOS-MOS> gebi: Having memory problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
[04:41:50] <gebi> oh... > Exception in thread "RMI TCP Connection(idle)" java.lang.OutOfMemoryError: PermGen space
[04:42:06] <gebi> is that what you meant?
[04:42:21] <gebi> KOS-MOS: ok
[04:44:15] <gebi> omg... how do i say that eclipse should just use _as_MUCH_ memory it wants?
[04:44:55] <gebi> i don't care if it takes 3GB, it should just work, regardlessly what i do
[04:47:55] <gebi> KOS-MOS: is there a way to set the whole limits to unlimited?
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[04:54:35] <ijuma> gebi: just put a very high value for -Xmx
[04:54:50] <ijuma> oh
[04:54:59] <ijuma> but the error you gave was a PermGen one
[04:55:11] <ijuma> so you need the -XX:MaxPermSize one
[04:55:15] <gebi> ijuma: i've 8GB ram in this box, so it's quite strange to fail with oom at 64mb ;)
[04:56:04] <ijuma> gebi: sure, be very generous with your settings then. That's the best you can do right now
[04:56:11] <gebi> can i set the values >4GB?
[04:56:24] <ijuma> gebi: if you're using a 64-bit jvm, yes
[04:56:29] <gebi> or is the jvm limited to 4(2)gb? (thought i read something about that)
[04:56:34] <gebi> kk :)
[04:56:51] <ijuma> gebi: but to be honest, if you get an OOM with 2GB, I would be very impressed ;)
[04:56:55] <gebi> a "use as much memory as you want" flag would be nice ;)
[04:57:26] <ijuma> gebi: make sure to increase your perm gen as well. Usually 160m tends to be enough, but feel free to double that if you want to make sure and have loads of memory anyway
[04:57:28] <gebi> imho it's not the task of the app to restrict this, it would be killed by the os anyway if it uses too much memory
[04:57:46] <ijuma> gebi: yeap, it would, but the jvm uses -Xmx to deal with phantom references and the like
[04:58:00] <ijuma> this is more a sun jvm issue than eclipse
[04:58:45] <gebi> oh, nice idea :)
[04:59:26] <gebi> i've set Xmx to 1G and -XX:MaxPermSize to 256mb
[04:59:29] <gebi> hope that is enough
[04:59:38] <ijuma> gebi: should be unless you open _huge_ files
[04:59:55] <ijuma> and by huge i mean files too huge to be source code
[05:00:23] <gebi> ijuma: shouldn't eclipse set at least double the limits as on 32bit archs on amd64?
[05:00:35] <gebi> i see eclipse using a _good_ deal more memory on amd64
[05:00:55] <ijuma> gebi: 1.5x to 2.x
[05:00:59] <ijuma> i agree
[05:01:12] <ijuma> but i don't think they have the infrastructure to do this per arch
[05:01:34] <ijuma> gebi: that's one of the reasons why i use a 32-bit vm even though I have 4GB of RAM
[05:01:45] <ijuma> it's not 8 GB though ;)
[05:01:46] <gebi> i've a 64bit os
[05:01:53] <ijuma> me too
[05:02:01] <gebi> and i do _not_ want to enable pat ;)
[05:02:06] <ijuma> that doesn't affect what jvms you can run
[05:02:21] <gebi> oh?
[05:02:28] <gebi> nice, didn't know that
[05:02:31] <ijuma> i have my kernel running on 64-bits
[05:02:42] <ijuma> x86_64 is nice like that ;)
[05:02:45] <gebi> userspace too?
[05:02:53] <ijuma> most of userspace is 64 bits yes
[05:03:05] <ijuma> but you need some 32 bits stuff for whatever other apps you run as 32 bits
[05:03:14] <ijuma> e.g. i use 32 bit firefox for flash
[05:03:37] <gebi> hehe, i've flash running in 64bit firefox ;)
[05:04:25] <gebi> no problem with nspluginwrapper
[05:05:51] <ijuma> gebi: I think flash gives me enough problems running natively ;)
[05:06:59] <gebi> i had never problems with flash in 64bit ff
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[05:08:16] <ijuma> gebi: you must be lucky. Most people I know attribute a great part of firefox's lack of stability to flash usage
[05:08:24] <ijuma> and this can be easily seen by disabling flash
[05:08:27] <ijuma> at least on linux
[05:08:56] <gebi> opera is wise to start the flash in an external process *gg*
[05:09:21] <gebi> i use ff only for flash, opera for all other things because lastest flash and opera won't work together :(
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[05:51:39] <gaillard_> any spring layout gurus out there?
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[07:17:20] <jieryn-w> how can i launch an external program from within eclipse?
[07:17:36] <jieryn-w> i'm wanting to launch jsvc
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[07:20:22] <jieryn-w> i see i can Run Program, but the Run Application As dialog doesn't display that mode
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[07:25:55] <jieryn-w> ok, seems i figured out how to launch jsvc
[07:26:02] <jieryn-w> but i need to get a variable representing the project classpath
[07:26:03] <jieryn-w> anyone know it?
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[07:42:25] <jieryn-w> why can't i get at the classpath??
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[09:10:02] <yao_ziyuan> i'm studying SWT (standard widget toolkit" on wikipedia
[09:10:06] <yao_ziyuan> it seems a SWT-based program would require java runtime, isn't it?
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[09:39:01] <Raging_Hog> we have been stupid and every coder had a different server encoding. Now the comments on the committed files are of different encodings and I wondered if there's a chance to make eclipse show the comments in the encoding they were made with? This is hard I know, since they are probably in the same file(with cvs at least)
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[09:52:36] <mo> how can i ignore case in methods like getDefaultEditor(filename)?
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[10:01:24] <l0gin> hi all
[10:02:40] <l0gin> Does someone know where I can find doc about eclipse:// protocol ? I need it to make xdebug output good links so I can easily open buggy files from dev platform.
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[10:11:43] <astaldo> good morning
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[10:13:19] <astaldo> i habe some probs with subclipse and UTF-8 "apply patch"
[10:13:40] <astaldo> does anyone knows about this
[10:13:57] <astaldo> i cant apply tha patch because these characters are not identified coorectly
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[10:26:50] <haakonn> hello, is there any way to disable the "file changed" monitor in eclipse? it works extremely poorly with our samba/cifs setup; we constantly get the dialog "The file has changed on the file system. Do you want to load the changes?"
[10:28:28] <roots_> haakonn: could be nothing but a simple time sync problem
[10:28:45] <roots_> also with FAT there was issues
[10:29:05] <roots_> luckily i dont use any samba
[10:29:14] <haakonn> roots_: yes, but it seems extremely sensitive (down to a second or less), improving time sync is not an option
[10:29:33] <roots_> throwing out samba is what i would do
[10:29:39] <haakonn> this is a large university, there is some latency between the clients and the server
[10:29:54] <haakonn> roots_: definitely, but not my table unfortunately :)
[10:30:10] <roots_> but with ntp you dont have the latency problem
[10:30:19] <roots_> at least not usually
[10:30:41] <haakonn> i wouldn't think so
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[10:35:15] <mo> how to get a resource from a filename?
[10:37:18] <mo> or some othery type that i may save()
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[10:44:14] <l0gin> haakonn instead of samba file share, why not using svn ? (I don't know...just an idea)
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[10:44:45] <l0gin> ah ok university
[10:44:52] <haakonn> l0gin: problem is that the users' home directories are on samba
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[10:53:03] <EtnaRosso> morning i'm looking for a good tutorial about how to build a new eclipse plugin
[10:53:13] <EtnaRosso> may some one help me?
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[11:09:25] <psst> what do you use to automate UI testing in eclipse?
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[11:47:13] <Carnage\> Is there a way to prevent a user job from being sent into background?
[11:50:09] <Carnage\> I mean, I schedule my user job and the feedback dialog opens up with a button "Run in Background"
[11:50:33] <Carnage\> I don't want this button to be active, since the user should not be able to continue working until the job is done
[11:54:24] <dominikg> Carnage\, i don't know the api, but would expect it to offer some method like 'setModal'
[11:56:09] <Carnage\> Unftly there is no such method :/
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[12:17:59] <dmiles> do others need to disable org.eclipse.mylyn.java.ui.javaTypeCompletionProposalComputer due to proposal computer taking too long?
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[12:22:47] <Carnage\> dmiles: Yep, happened to me as well
[12:24:35] <dmiles> ok well at least we can disable
[12:24:59] <Carnage\> :)
[12:25:43] <dmiles> i think though maybe i need to restart eclipse for disable to take effect though? odd
[12:26:46] <dmiles> i use -consoleLog normally.. and it still prinbts out it's "..." dots
[12:27:15] <dmiles> maybe thats eclipse time tracking?
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[12:40:32] <njbartlett_> Carnage\: If the user can't continue work until this task is finished, then it sounds like it shouldn't be implemented as a Job at all. Why not just run it in the GUI thread and slap up a model "please wait" dialog?
[12:41:08] <Carnage\> Because I'd like to use the scheduling rules of the Job A
[12:41:09] <Carnage\> PI
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[12:43:34] <nvictor> hi people
[12:43:45] <njbartlett_> Carnage\: Why? Surely scheduling rules are only relevant if you have the ability to run in the background
[12:43:48] <nvictor> has anybody tried to use eclipse for web development?
[12:44:14] <Carnage\> njbartlett_: One of the two jobs in question is supposed to be run in the background
[12:44:30] <Carnage\> But the other that is dependent on this job should be blocking
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[12:44:57] <njbartlett_> Hmm so you run a background job first, and when that finished you run the blocking task?
[12:45:35] <njbartlett_> nvictor: Lots of people have, I expect :-)
[12:45:49] <Carnage\> njbartlett_: Kind of, the user determines when to start the blocking task
[12:46:21] <njbartlett_> Carnage\: Sorry I don't follow you
[12:46:45] <Carnage\> And when it does it before the background task is finished, a dialog like the one that pops up when you try to modify source code while the JDT is still building your stuff should turn up
[12:47:12] <njbartlett_> Ah I think I see
[12:47:25] <Carnage\> It's a bit complicated, sorry for not being able to describe it clearer ;)
[12:47:55] <njbartlett_> So the user can initiate the blocking task, but if he does so before the background task is complete then it should wait before starting?
[12:48:14] <njbartlett_> How about doing a join() on the background job?
[12:49:06] <Carnage\> Yeah, I tried that solution yesterday, but I thought the one with scheduling rules is smarter
[12:49:27] <Carnage\> Because I thought by using that way, I might automatically get this framework dialog
[12:49:36] <Carnage\> "User operation is waiting for background operation to complete..."
[12:50:21] <nvictor> njbartlett_: would you suggest it for xhtml/css/javascript development, I really need an IDE, I'm having too much pain with Vim, I need something, where I can preview and all...
[12:50:36] <njbartlett_> Well it's a nice thought but if the framework dialog doesn't have the flexibility you need...
[12:50:47] <nvictor> I sse
[12:50:54] <nvictor> see sorry :)
[12:51:05] <njbartlett_> nvictor: That was a reply to Carnage\, not you :-0
[12:51:16] <nvictor> ok
[12:51:50] <njbartlett_> nvictor: I believe there are plugins for XHTML, CSS and JavaScript. I haven't used them myself so I don't know which ones to recommend. Do you do any development of back-end stuff like PHP or Java on the webserver?
[12:52:57] <Carnage\> njbartlett_: Hmm yeah, my current solution is to schedule the jobs using schedule rules and then display a modal dialog that is closed upon the second job's "done"-event
[12:54:34] <njbartlett_> That sounds reasonable, assuming I understand your requirements.
[12:54:37] <nvictor> njbartlett_: yes
[12:54:45] <nvictor> njbartlett_: PHP
[12:55:04] <njbartlett_> nvictor: Okay, then you could try PDT, the PHP Development Tools.
[12:55:50] <nvictor> I will
[12:55:51] <nvictor> thanks
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[13:17:28] <legendi|work> re
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[13:44:22] <rcjsuen> jieryn-w: the project classpath is a jdt concept, not sure if you can just arbitrarily retrieve that due to Eclipse's decoupled plug-ins
[13:45:12] <lemmy> Does somebody has a good alternative to JFreeChart? What I need is some real time charting/plotting/graphing framework.
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[13:46:07] <rcjsuen> EtnaRosso: dunno, i just created sample plug-in projects with the  templates, read stuff online, and asked questions
[13:46:25] <rcjsuen> mo: from an IWorkspaceRoot you can try getFile, you might be able to retrieve your IResource
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[13:48:32] <rcjsuen> lemmy: Might want to try asking in ##java also.
[13:49:06] <lemmy> hi remy
[13:49:22] <rcjsuen> lemmy: Hi
[13:49:55] <mo> rcjsuen: i managed this in anothery way. but thanks anyway :)
[13:50:28] <rcjsuen> mo: Please share your solution with the community then.
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[13:50:46] <mo> what was my question? ^^
[13:51:10] <rcjsuen> [10:35:15] <mo> how to get a resource from a filename? [10:37:18] <mo> or some othery type that i may save()
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[13:52:39] <mo> i iterate through all editors, store the active one, make the one with the corret file active, perform getActiveEditor().doSave() and make the old one active again. very very dirty.
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[13:52:54] <rcjsuen> good grief
[13:53:40] <paulweb515> mo: never call doSave() that's a framework method
[13:53:49] <mo> i don't know how to come from iresource to resource so that i can save()
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[13:54:19] <paulweb515> mo: if you are backed by file buffers (like text editors) then they manage the save for you
[13:54:51] <paulweb515> mo: if you really want to do it by walking the editors, use IWorkbenchPage#saveEditor(*) to actually do the save
[13:54:52] <nitind> paulweb515: They're not all backed by them, only if they didn't reimplement the document provider and are working with files (not random streams).
[13:54:59] <rcjsuen> Wait, why are you saying to begin with, what's your use case
[13:55:01] <mo> paulweb515: i want to save the file when i perform an action on it.
[13:55:14] <paulweb515> nitind: right
[13:55:14] <rcjsuen> You should ask the user
[13:55:17] <nitind> mo: Shouldn't the user be doing that?
[13:55:22] <rcjsuen> "These files are dirty, before performing, I need to save"
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[13:55:45] <mo> yes, he "should". but the user asked me to do it automatically.
[13:55:52] * rcjsuen shakes his head.
[13:56:19] <mo> ok, so i need to find a isSaved()-method and open a dialog?
[13:56:28] <paulweb515> mo: well, if you are in the editor part, then IWorkbenchPage#saveEditor(*) is the appropriate API method
[13:56:29] <nitind> mo: ok, then depending on how the action's implemented, it already has access to the editor part.
[13:56:46] <nitind> paulweb515: Not call it on the IEditorPart?
[13:57:03] <rcjsuen> ~api IEditorPart
[13:57:04] <KOS-MOS> org.eclipse.ui.IEditorPart - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/ui/IEditorPart.html
[13:57:21] <rcjsuen> nitind: I'm not sure if I would.
[13:58:02] <nitind> Hmm, not sure there is a method there.
[13:58:07] <mo> addsaveEditor works better :)
[13:58:13] <mo> with a dialog..
[13:58:24] <rcjsuen> I mean, I wouldn't call doSave
[13:58:36] <rcjsuen> When there's a saveEditor
[13:58:41] <mo> i call saveEditor() now.
[13:58:51] <mo> didn't find when i needed it
[13:58:52] <paulweb515> nitind: blupin added some pretty complex saveables support in 3.3 ... but you only talk to it correctly when going through IWorkbenchPage#saveEditor(*)
[13:59:25] <paulweb515> nitind: that's not to say an editor that knows what it is doing can't call its own doSave() method ...
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[14:02:10] <mo> i got another problem. i parse a console output and add markers. but some of theme aren't added though createMarker() is called properly. it seems like they are added but they are deleted half a second later..
[14:03:03] <nitind> This sounds oddly familiar.
[14:03:18] <nitind> Are they breakpoints?
[14:03:38] <mo> nitind: no..
[14:03:53] <nitind> Are you saving the editor right after you create the markers?
[14:04:06] <mo> no. should i?
[14:04:11] <nitind> just asking
[14:04:17] <mo> k
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[14:06:14] <wild_oscar> hi
[14:06:20] <mo> in a special case of the console output i delete the markers. but this case doesn't happen after the markers are added
[14:06:23] <rcjsuen> wild_oscar: Hi
[14:06:59] <wild_oscar> is there a way to add a file type to the pop-up menu "right click - new"?
[14:07:33] <rcjsuen> If you edit the perspective, I believe so.
[14:07:42] <wild_oscar> I'm in the java perspective and I'd like to have "jsp" as one of the file tipes
[14:07:44] <rcjsuen> Or if you use an extension point.
[14:07:53] <rcjsuen> Did you make a wizard for that?
[14:08:31] <wild_oscar> for what?
[14:08:52] <rcjsuen> For the jsp file.
[14:09:48] <wild_oscar> aha, i've found how to
[14:10:01] <wild_oscar> didn't think it would be so easy...
[14:10:14] <wild_oscar> just a matter of customize perspective
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[14:13:13] <mo> nitind: it works now without chaning anything. just pasting a few lines in a file and deleting them again. sometimes eclipse is a bit strange...
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[14:21:54] <mo> what's the process type of an external tool?
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[14:27:39] <zx|work> what do you mean?
[14:28:44] <mo> i want to add a consolecolorprovider and have to speciy the process type of it in plugin.xml. it should be activated if a special batchfile is invoked via external tools.
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[14:30:37] <zx|work> it's probably somewhere in the org.eclipse.debug.ui plug-in xml (I assume)
[14:30:44] <zx|work> so I'd probably just import that plug-in into my workspace to do some peaking
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[14:31:47] <rcjsuen> agreed
[14:32:16] <zx|work> mo: or better yet, the plug-in registry view probably has the id buried in there :)
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[14:38:14] <mo> zx|work: you mean under org.eclipse.debug.ui > Extensions? i cannot find it there. many points, dunno where to start..
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[14:39:30] <zx|work> mo, what happens when you open the plug-in registry view and type 'process' in it
[14:40:01] <haakonn> anyone else know if there is any way to disable the "file changed" monitor in eclipse? it works extremely poorly with our samba/cifs setup; we constantly get the dialog "The file has changed on the file system. Do you want to load the changes?" we are a comp.sci. department, and need eclipse for our courses
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[14:40:20] <mo> zx|work: i come to "Prerequisites"..
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[14:40:52] <zx|work> mo, ok, one sec, lemme peak. I was busy cropping screenshots this morning :)
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[14:48:51] <zx|work> mo: not sure what a process id is, but what about org.eclipse.ui.externaltools?
[14:49:43] <mo> gonna try it
[14:50:15] <zx|work> you know, let me ask the Debug Lead
[14:50:30] <zx|work> actually, he's not up yet.
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[14:52:20] <zx|work> mo, I only see one implementor of that extension point which kind of sucks
[14:53:10] <mo> zx|work: no problem. just letting you know: org.eclipse.ui.externaltools doesn't work for me..
[14:56:14] <zx|work> mo: I'm finding the damn id now, I'm determined
[14:56:57] <mo> zx|work: maybe look at this: http://dev.eclipse.org/newslists/news.eclipse.platform/msg09474.html
[14:57:06] <mo> but foo.bat isn't working.
[14:58:12] <zx|work> oh interesting
[14:58:20] <zx|work> so looking at the code (ProgramLaunchDelegate)
[14:58:30] <zx|work> It sets the IProcess.ATTR_PROCESS_TYPE to the programName
[14:58:49] <zx|work> which is the substring of the name - ext.length
[14:58:52] <zx|work> so instead of foo.bar
[14:58:57] <zx|work> it would be foo I think
[14:59:52] <zx|work> mo: if you want to figure out the id via debugging, import org.eclipsee.ui.externaltools in your workspace and set a breakpoint in ProgramLaunchDelegate where it sets the id
[15:00:22] <mo> zx|work: m works :)
[15:00:25] <mo> thank you!
[15:00:53] <zx|work> np
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[15:12:53] <Sal> can someone please help me start using eclipse? first of all, what should i download?
[15:13:34] <Sal> i went to the download page and i got 5 packages and 3 third party distros
[15:13:52] <haakonn> "Eclipse IDE for Java Developers" should be fine for most needs
[15:14:33] <Sal> ok
[15:14:41] <Sal> next, i would like to use it for php
[15:17:34] <rcjsuen> ~tell Sal about compare
[15:17:34] <KOS-MOS> Sal: Wondering what's the difference between all of those Eclipse packages? See http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/moreinfo/compare.php
[15:17:51] <Sal> thanks
[15:20:00] <railbait> Starting with the most basic version and building up from there as you discover your needs seems to be the best way to go about things
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[16:13:30] <kirkt> i'm having alot of problems running visual editor with 3.3, is that a known problem ?
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[16:14:09] <paulweb515> kirkt: AFAIK if you get 3.3.x from eclipse.org and then use Europa to get VE, they should work together
[16:14:23] <Silver> Hi, im looking for a shortcut for Uploading all changes to remote location though Team syncronization. ( not CVS ), i've looked in the Preferrences -> General -> Keys section, and there is not one where i bind that to a key combination. Is there something else i can do for making a shortcut to it?
[16:15:39] <kirkt> paulweb515 where in the updates should it be ?
[16:15:55] <paulweb515> kirkt: do you see the Europa Discovery site?
[16:16:35] <paulweb515> Silver: did you check the "Show Unbound Commands" box on Keys (assuming prior to 3.3.2)?
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[16:16:49] <Silver> paulweb515 yeap
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[16:17:34] <paulweb515> Silver: if you sort by the Category column, you should see all of the Team commands that are available for keybindings
[16:17:53] <paulweb515> but it's possible that they didn't make a command for that action
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[16:18:18] <kirkt> paulweb515 yes, but couldnt find 'visual editor' there
[16:18:23] <Silver> paulweb515 oki, thanks for your help :)
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[16:20:13] <paulweb515> Silver: oh, Commit all outgoing changes is a CVS operation, not a Team one (if that's the one you are talking about)
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[16:20:35] <paulweb515> It might work with different repo providers, but you would have to try it to find out
[16:20:55] <Silver> paulweb515 yeap, i saw that. :P only problem is that its a sftp plugin that im using, and it dosents seem like it takes the hint :p
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[16:22:49] <kirkt> paulweb515 i can't find VE in the updates from europa
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[16:30:42] <paulweb515> kirkt: ooops, it's not available on Europa
[16:30:50] <paulweb515> kirkt: did you get one of the testing releases? http://www.eclipse.org/vep/WebContent/main.php
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[16:33:59] <evil_bit> hello
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[16:34:19] <dominikg> ~tell kirkt about ve-europa
[16:34:20] <KOS-MOS> kirkt: There is no stable VE 1.3 for Eclipse 3.3 -- yet. See http://wiki.eclipse.org/Visual_Editor_Project#Development_Resources for roadmap and interim build installation guide.
[16:34:36] <evil_bit> is there a  stable eclipse for macosx?
[16:34:56] <paulweb515> evil_bit: yes ... 3.2.x and 3.3.x
[16:35:13] <evil_bit> paulweb515: i mean one that doesn't crash every hour or less
[16:35:21] <evil_bit> or when you hit cmd+shift+T
[16:35:27] <evil_bit> or cmd+shift+O
[16:35:32] <evil_bit> or cmd+shift+R
[16:35:35] <paulweb515> evil_bit: yes ... my next cube neighbour works on Mac, and hers works fine
[16:35:43] <nitind> Mine works fine, too.
[16:35:52] <evil_bit> leopard?
[16:36:03] <nitind> Which one came before that one?
[16:36:14] <evil_bit> i've tried 4 different versions, tried no plugins, tried back on tiger as well
[16:36:27] <krbarnes> the latest 3.4 milestone build is good on Leopard.
[16:36:41] <krbarnes> also the latest 3.3 maintenance builds.
[16:37:04] <evil_bit> i got 3.3.1.1 build 1652
[16:38:20] <krbarnes> that crashes on Leopard. Try M20071219-0800, or 3.4 M4
[16:38:43] <krbarnes> Any build should be fine on Tiger
[16:40:04] <evil_bit> ok lemme give that a shot, tks
[16:40:43] <krbarnes> This is the bug report: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=207827
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[16:50:30] <jmatt> hi, i have to use eclipse tptp static analysis an the tutorial says, that "viewers can be attached to any analysis element for the purposes of rendering rule result data." the api doesn't say anything about setting a viewer... http://archive.eclipse.org/tptp/4.2.0/javadoc/Platform/public/org/eclipse/tptp/platform/analysis/core/element/AbstractAnalysisElement.html
[16:50:30] <jmatt> may so. help me?
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[16:57:27] <evil_bit> btw got 3.4, not sure about stability but eclipse finally doesn't look like sh*t on macosx
[17:00:05] <krbarnes> evil_bit: I'm not sure what you didn't like about the look of 3.3 on mac, but I'm almost positive we made no fixes to improve the look.
[17:00:31] <rcjsuen> I don't recall any changes in the N&N either.
[17:00:36] <evil_bit> it looked fuzzy and out of place, now looks more in line with macosx look
[17:00:56] <railbait> Is there a way to add refactoring patterns to eclipse? I'm really getting into it and seeing some specializations I'd like to add in
[17:01:26] <rcjsuen> "Patterns"?
[17:01:27] <njbartlett_> evil_bit: I'm running 3.3 and 3.4 side by side on Leopard, they both look pretty much the same. Unless you're talking about the new splash screen...?
[17:01:42] <rcjsuen> lol, splash screen
[17:02:27] <evil_bit> not the splash, project explorer etc
[17:03:53] * rcjsuen shrugs.
[17:03:58] <evil_bit> maybe i'm imagining
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[17:05:46] <njbartlett_> evil_bit: Odd, they both use Carbon controls. Oh well, one person's "looks like shit" is another person's work of art :-)
[17:06:15] <rcjsuen> True.
[17:06:18] <krbarnes> evil_bit: at least we're improving I guess.
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[17:07:44] <nadir__> hola!
[17:08:27] <rcjsuen> nadir__: Hi
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[17:14:07] <thnee> eclipse tells me "Inconsistent classfile encountered: The undefined type parameter V is referenced from within  VisualGraph"
[17:14:43] <thnee> i have no idea what it want from me, but i moved the project from one computer to another so i'm guessing it has something to do with that
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[17:15:39] <thnee> and it just says so in the beginning of the file.. so i don't know where the problem actually is, and i don't know what a classfile is
[17:15:58] <rcjsuen> try Project / Clean
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[17:16:47] <thnee> ah, then it tells me it doesnt have a .DS_Store file that i removed (this is OS X's folder settings file so it's not important)
[17:17:12] <thnee> but what is telling eclipse to need this file?
[17:17:47] <thnee> is there a file that lists all files?
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[17:27:32] <tamir> hi, I suddenly have a problem attaching the source
[17:28:20] <tamir> even jdk source I can"t attach anymore.
[17:28:41] <rcjsuen_> thnee: can you take a screenshot of your screen
[17:28:43] <tamir> I don't know since when this happened. any advice
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[17:29:26] <rcjsuen_> tamir: Define "can't".
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[17:31:37] <tamir> brekpoint reached -> debug window -> "class file editor" window -> push "change attached source" button
[17:32:38] <tamir> still  "class file editor" window
[17:32:41] <rcjsuen_> ~logs
[17:32:41] <KOS-MOS> Looking for your Eclipse logs? Try Window > Show View > Other > PDE Runtime > Error Log. Or look at the <workspace>/.metadata/.log file. If you want to paste it somewhere, see ~pastebin - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/IRC_FAQ#Where_are_Eclipse.27s_log_files_located_at.3F - http://wiki.eclipse.org/index.php/FAQ_Where_can_I_find_that_elusive_.log_file%3F
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[17:45:43] <kirkt> so i need to use eclipse 3.2 for visual editor ?
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[17:50:06] <kirkt> ah. lucky. my CDT is 3.2
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[17:50:42] <dominikg> kirkt, or use a development build of VE, how to do so should be described on the link i provided earlier
[17:51:36] <thnee> rcjsuen_: why? i told you what it says
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[17:55:45] <rcjsuen_> thnee: I would like additional context.
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[17:56:07] <rcjsuen_> kirkt: there is no cdt 3.2 actually
[17:56:38] <kirkt> maybe i did a manual install then.. its pretty old, don't remember
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[18:21:44] <Rayaken> hi, how do i code an editor should support various document providers and editor inputs?
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[18:22:45] <kirkt> i want to create a dialog with a title textbox, description textarea. i'm using RowLayout, but i cant figure out how to make them fill the width
[18:23:52] <Rayaken> currently i am setting the document provider in the constructor but that probably ain't the way to do it.
[18:24:25] <paulweb515> Rayaken: see how TextEditor/AbstractTextEditor (and superclasses) do it
[18:26:12] <Rayaken> so i don't use setDocumentProvider(xxx) but use an extension point?
[18:28:06] <nitind> Rayaken: If you can get away with it, don't mess with document providers at all.  Use the ones that are provided.
[18:28:32] <nitind> Rayaken: And yes, there's an extension point that maps editor input classes to document providers.
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[18:30:01] <Rayaken> nitind: ain't possible because my document resides inside a database
[18:30:46] <Rayaken> nitind: what is the easiest way to look at the source for the abstracttextviewer?
[18:31:35] <nitind> Rayaken: I don't think there's any such class, but usually the SDK download.  You're looking for the org.eclipse.ui.editors.documentProviders extension point.
[18:32:38] <kirkt> is there a way to make a multiline Text not accept TABs ?
[18:33:40] <nitind> kirkt: You could add a verify listener and set the event.doit to false on the tab character.
[18:34:49] <kirkt> also, how would i set a dialog's title ?
[18:35:31] <nitind> kirkt: Hava a look at the JavaDoc.
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[18:55:23] <kirkt> damnit
[18:55:34] <kirkt> what is it with eclipse and widget is exposed exceptions
[18:56:10] <kirkt> whats wrong with this
[18:56:11] <kirkt> http://rafb.net/p/gdmQoH18.html
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[18:59:10] <Rayaken> nitind: got it working with the extension point. thanx
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[19:01:02] <nitind> kirkt: On which line?
[19:01:31] <kirkt> nitind: nothing is wrong, it compiles and displays the dialog
[19:01:34] <rcjsuen> kirkt: Hard to say, I've never used RowLayout.
[19:01:43] <rcjsuen> or well, let's just say i'm not familiar with it
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[19:01:53] <rcjsuen> kirkt: you just said there were exceptions
[19:01:56] <rcjsuen> hence, something is wrong
[19:01:56] <kirkt> the problem is, in the buttonOk, it says the _titleTextBox is disposed
[19:02:16] <nitind> kirkt: Call super last.  It might be disposing of widgets in the superclass.
[19:02:22] <rcjsuen> yeah
[19:03:04] <kirkt> ok that seems to work, thanks
[19:06:48] <Rayaken> hi, i'm trying to get my widgets on an editor page (FormPage). i'm trying to add a label in the createFormContent method: managedForm.getToolkit().createLabel(managedForm.getForm().getParent(), "Compile commands:"); but it doesnt work. it ain't showing and i dont know why. any ideas?
[19:07:53] <zx|work> my guess there's a layout missing or something is wrong with the layout
[19:07:57] <kirkt> nitind: btw they Verify listener trick just eats TAB, doesnt make the control tab out to the next control
[19:07:58] <zx|work> have to run though, bbl, lunch
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[19:11:00] <rcjsuen> kirkt: Rephrase that.
[19:11:21] <rcjsuen> Perhaps you can monitor for mod keys, if any are pressed, do not consume.
[19:11:58] <MadOtis> Hello all...  can anyone point me to a FAQ or example of how to set up the TPTP stand-alone agent so I can profile an EAR running on a JBoss application server (ver: 4.2.2) please?
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[19:14:33] <kirkt> rcjsuen: while in TextArea ( which is Text with MULTI), you press TAB and it doesnt tab to the next control
[19:14:46] <kirkt> it types the TAB into the text
[19:15:26] <rcjsuen> oh, that
[19:15:59] <rcjsuen> You could possibly setup some TraversalListeners, those might do something.
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[19:17:49] <Rayaken> hi, anybody worked with the FormPage. i try to add something to it but it won't show.
[19:19:03] <rcjsuen> Rayaken: pastebin-ing your code would be helpful
[19:19:15] <rcjsuen> as zx|work mentioned, it is probably a layout issue
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[19:21:59] <asimismo> Rayaken: Usual problem is that a composite without a Layout won't display. Have you set your Layout?
[19:29:34] <Rayaken> rcjsuen: http://pastebin.com/d405df4e6
[19:29:52] <Rayaken> asimismo: tried to create a composite and add a gridlayout, to no avail.
[19:30:26] <rcjsuen> Rayaken: that -> managedForm.getForm().getParent() -> needs a layout
[19:31:32] <Rayaken> rcjsuen: should i set it in createFormContent() ?
[19:31:47] <rcjsuen> Rayaken: Try and find out.
[19:31:58] <Rayaken> rcjsuen: as always =)
[19:36:07] <Rayaken> rcjsuen: ain't working. still no widget. the text is showing which i set with form.setText()
[19:36:48] <rcjsuen> that's a separate issue
[19:37:23] <Rayaken> rcjsuen: setting layout: will new GridLayout(2, false) suffice?
[19:38:25] <rcjsuen> Rayaken: just look at how they do it here http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-Forms/article.html
[19:39:34] <Rayaken> rcjsuen: i got the view working but not the editor.
[19:39:55] <nitind> Are you sure that you should be messing with the Form's parent at all?
[19:39:56] <thnee> rcjsuen: i ran clean and i got this: http://www.fukt.bsnet.se/~thnee/rcjsuen.png
[19:40:31] <thnee> where do i tell eclipse that this file is not needed?
[19:41:17] <rcjsuen> nitind: possibly not, it's been a while
[19:42:05] <rcjsuen> thnee: Sounds like some builder is picking it up for whatever reasons. I'd suggest googling the error.
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[19:44:14] <rcjsuen> I guess I'll do some quick investigations
[19:44:15] <greenmanspirit_> hello, is anyone here familiar with using the help viewer as a stand alone app in linux?
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[19:44:57] <rcjsuen> Rayaken: use form.getBody().setLayout
[19:45:00] <thnee> rcjsuen: i tried, got nothing
[19:45:06] <rcjsuen> then use form.getBody() instead of the getParent()
[19:45:10] <thnee> rcjsuen: what is "some builder"?
[19:45:21] <Rayaken> rcjsuen: ok. i managed to add a hyperlink to the form and it is working. now how do i add a combobox to it? there is no method to create a combo.
[19:45:31] <rcjsuen> thnee: some process that is being run and which found those files as being missing
[19:45:54] <thnee> rcjsuen: what is "some process"? :) i made a new run target if thats what you mean
[19:46:08] <rcjsuen> could be anything
[19:46:09] <thnee> or run configuration
[19:46:10] <rcjsuen> Java compiler
[19:46:13] <rcjsuen> something running Make
[19:46:17] <rcjsuen> XML parser checking files
[19:46:26] <rcjsuen> that is some examples of a "builder"
[19:46:48] <thnee> i'm not using anything andvanced like that
[19:46:59] <thnee> exepct the java compiler ofcourse
[19:47:20] <rcjsuen> Rayaken: That process is described in the forms articles.
[19:48:16] <nitind> thnee: Select the project and do a File|Refresh from the main menu.
[19:48:43] <thnee> thank you nitind
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[19:49:23] <Rayaken> rcjsuen: working at last. it was the getForm().getBody() method instead of the getForm().getParent() method.
[19:50:22] <Rayaken> rcjsuen: now i got that ugly combobox on a neat white editor page ... =( at least it is there
[19:50:22] <Rayaken> rcjsuen: thanx
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[20:11:57] <asimismo> Rayaken: You don't need the FormsToolkit to create your controls.  It just provides convenient factory methods that set some defaults on the returned controls. You can create the controls directly if you prefer.
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[20:17:05] <feindbild> hi =)+
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[20:18:42] <feindbild> When I want to install new features Eclipse Shows a lot of already installed features. Is there any way around this?
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[20:20:48] <feindbild> To be more precise: for example install new features shows the mylyn trac connector v2.2, v2.1 is installed but it doesn't show up when trying to upgrade ...
[20:21:46] <Rayaken> asimismo: that was not so clear to me. thanx.
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[20:30:51] <vinse> how do i add freemarker syntax highlighting?  i downloaded a freemakeride.jar from jboss,  unpacked it into eclipse/plugins and eclipse/features, but my *.ftl documents are still unhighlighted
[20:32:26] <rcjsuen> vinse: what's in the jar file
[20:32:35] <rcjsuen> i think you should just put the jar file in the eclipse/plugins folder instead of unpacking it
[20:32:51] <vinse> it unpacks into the eclipse directory
[20:33:01] <vinse> it has a plugins subfolder and a features subfolder
[20:33:10] <vinse> sec, i think i just have to associate *.ftl
[20:33:24] <rcjsuen> how odd to name it .jar
[20:34:20] <dominikg> rcjsuen, maybe it is an executable jar that comes with an installer? i believe omondo does/did the same
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[20:34:46] <rcjsuen> that's quite imaginative
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[20:43:22] <cachacero> how does eclipse check if the pointed workspace version is as new as required? (I mean, if you try to open a workspace created by eclipse 3.1 with eclipse 3.3)
[20:44:04] <rcjsuen> It doesn't.
[20:44:07] <rcjsuen> It just uses it.
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[20:44:31] <cachacero> what if they expect different workspace structures?
[20:44:34] <cachacero> will it just crash?
[20:44:54] <rcjsuen> cachacero: Back it up and try and find out.
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[20:45:00] <rcjsuen> No, it shouldn't crash.
[20:45:09] <rcjsuen> If it crashes, it's likely a bug.
[20:47:53] <njbartlett_> cachacero: The overall structure of the workspace doesn't change across versions. But the individual plugins have their own area within that structure, so badly behaved plugins might report errors
[20:48:14] <njbartlett_> cachacero: Luckily the "standard" plugins like JDT etc are not badly behaved.
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[20:58:37] <bobbytek> With CVS, how can I ensure that when a new resource is added, it is added as root?
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[21:13:14] <bobbytek> I guess the question is, how can I change the default group for a CVS project?  This has to be done server side right?
[21:14:06] <rcjsuen> bobbytek: Did you try asking in the CVS irc channel / mailing list / whatever?
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[21:17:52] <bobbytek> sorry, at first I thought it was an eclipse thing
[21:17:57] <bobbytek> my evil
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[21:21:03] <greenmanspirit_> has anyone here used the eclipse help system as a stand alone?
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[21:22:01] <rcjsuen> greenmanspirit_: Taking a poll?
[21:22:37] <greenmanspirit_> no, having a question
[21:23:29] <rcjsuen> greenmanspirit_: Best to just ask the question.
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[21:23:49] <greenmanspirit_> just wondering why there is no right click menu on linux in the html viewer
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[21:24:19] <rcjsuen> greenmanspirit_: Do you see it on Windows?
[21:24:23] <greenmanspirit_> yes
[21:24:37] <greenmanspirit_> it looked like the ie right click menue
[21:24:39] <greenmanspirit_> menu*
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[21:25:02] <greenmanspirit_> so i was expecting in linux to get one also, that would be like firefox or mozilla
[21:25:03] <rcjsuen> I don't seem to have it either. Never really bothered me.
[21:26:00] <greenmanspirit_> lol, doesnt bother me but the boss's will ask about it
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[21:33:58] <nomike> good evening
[21:34:19] <rcjsuen> nomike: hi
[21:35:28] <nomike> For IntelliJ idea there is a Plugin which periodically executes JUnit Tests. There is an indicator in the status bar of IDEA and te plugin guesses when to run the tests based on users activity. Is there something simmilar for Eclipse?
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[21:43:11] <Dagon> Is there a problem with one of the updates? My installed copy of Eclipse crashes just sitting there because their to many files open?
[21:43:28] <rcjsuen> "one of the updates"?
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[21:44:13] <Dagon> that is my guess. It behaved itself until after an update download
[21:44:37] <Dagon> Then again it is possible something on my system got to it too.
[21:45:32] <kirkt> Dagon i think you have too many variables in that problem. i'd unzip eclipse to a new dir
[21:45:54] <MadOtis> Hello all...  I am trying to use TPTP (latest 4.4 release) to profile a JEE app deployed on a local jboss server.  I've got the agent set up, the server started.  And "attach to agent" profile created.  But, on the "attach" dialog, I get an error saying "No probes are selected for probe insertion"...  Any idea where I need to look next?
[21:46:26] <rcjsuen> Dagon: Or try opening it on a fresh workspace and see what happens there.
[21:46:38] <Dagon> will do
[21:47:54] <kirkt> rcjsuen do u use antialiased font while programming ?
[21:48:15] <rcjsuen> Yes.
[21:48:44] <kirkt> any headaches while adjusting ?
[21:49:34] <rcjsuen> Not exactly, I've always done this.
[21:49:48] <kirkt> ok
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[21:52:46] <Dagon> rcjsuen, if I change the workspace Eclipse will not load. I guess it is time to blow that version away and start over
[21:53:42] <rcjsuen> Dagon: Ouch.
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[22:08:08] <MadOtis> Can anyone here help with TPTP?
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[22:17:42] <alexbobp> how can I import a c++ project with a makefile into eclipse?
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[22:41:06] <konigsberg> Hi all, I'm not clear: I have a text editor for which I want to disable spell checking. How can I do that?
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[22:44:32] <rcjsuen> konigsberg: look at SpellingService, maybe you can figure out how to have it not perform checks
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[22:45:34] <konigsberg> rcjsuen, is that the short answer to "not easily"? :)
[22:46:13] <rcjsuen> konigsberg: Are you using TextSourceViewerConfiguration?
[22:46:28] <rcjsuen> I didn't even think spelling was enabled by default on all text editors.
[22:46:43] <konigsberg> I am
[22:47:10] <konigsberg> I can get engineers to disable spell checking en masse, but it seems silly for an engineer to have no spelling, rather than choose which editors benefit from spelling.
[22:47:15] <rcjsuen> ~api TextSourceViewerConfiguration#getReconciler(ISourceViewer)
[22:47:16] <KOS-MOS> TextSourceViewerConfiguration#getReconciler - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/ui/editors/text/TextSourceViewerConfiguration.html#getReconciler(org.eclipse.jface.text.source.ISourceViewer)
[22:47:17] <evil_bit> krbarnes: just popped in to say thanks, 3.4 seems to have resolved the leopard crashes, haven't had eclipse up this long in a while :)
[22:48:43] <konigsberg> Reconciler, huh? Interseting.
[22:48:51] <rcjsuen> konigsberg: just return null instead, problem solved
[22:50:07] <konigsberg> Hey thanks guys
[22:50:33] <konigsberg> Is the problem solved? Sounds like a reconciler is more than spell checking.
[22:50:40] <nitind> Not in that class it's not.
[22:50:52] <rcjsuen> what nitind said
[22:51:04] <konigsberg> Never mind, I'm reaing it.
[22:51:07] <konigsberg> I'm on it.
[22:51:09] <konigsberg> Thanks nitind and rcjsuen
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[22:55:54] <sintfix> I am using eclipse 3.3.1.1 europe bundle, I want to add glassfish adapter , I download it after restarting eclipse , there is no entry in download options either avaliable server adapter list?Do you know what can be the problem?
[22:56:18] <rcjsuen> sintfix: You download it, and then what.
[22:56:21] <rcjsuen> How did you download it
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[22:57:25] <sintfix> I did work glassfish with eclipse 3.2 release...
[22:57:38] <sintfix> I downloaded it from server add screen
[22:57:46] <rcjsuen> server add screen?
[22:57:49] <sintfix> there is a link there and
[22:57:57] <sintfix> new server
[22:57:58] <nitind> "it"?
[22:58:07] <rcjsuen> ~tell sintfix about clean
[22:58:08] <KOS-MOS> sintfix: Please try restarting Eclipse with the '-clean' argument. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Graphical_Eclipse_FAQs#I_have_just_installed_a_plug-in_but_I_do_not_see_any_indication_of_it_in_my_workspace._What_do_I_do.3F
[22:58:13] <rcjsuen> This sounds vaguely familira, let's try a -clean first.
[22:58:48] <sintfix> let me try
[23:00:03] <sintfix> It worked , thanks
[23:00:16] <rcjsuen> coo
[23:00:30] <rcjsuen> well, that was easy
[23:01:26] <sintfix> yes , sorry bothering you with an easy fish
[23:02:01] <rcjsuen> sintfix: No need to apologize, we're here to help.
[23:02:25] <konigsberg> rcjsuen, nitind, the way I'm solving it is a little different:
[23:02:45] <konigsberg> I have a combined preference store for the editor.
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[23:03:11] <konigsberg> And setting the spell-check preference in the editor's preference.
[23:03:14] <sintfix> rcjsuen:thanks
[23:03:28] <rcjsuen> konigsberg: that works too
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[23:20:47] <lnxnt> hello
[23:20:58] <lnxnt> what does perf/success mean?
[23:21:01] <lnxnt> what is perf?
[23:21:07] <lnxnt> I found it in tracing
[23:21:13] <lnxnt> for plugin tracing
[23:21:18] <krbarnes> performance
[23:21:21] <lnxnt> ah
[23:21:22] <lnxnt> thanks
[23:22:55] <krbarnes> np
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[23:22:59] <edrin> if info is a variable that contains myObject and info might be set by different threads, could an if (info == null){} result in thread instability? do i have to synchronize it?
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[23:26:32] <robinr> no. it's atomic
[23:26:52] <robinr> s/threadsafe/
[23:28:12] <edrin> ok
[23:28:25] <d_a_carver> bah...delete two xsd's (aren't related) and the whole batch validation starts validating all 300 xsds. <growl>
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[23:31:27] <lnxnt> what is the difference between build path and classpath?
[23:32:11] <krbarnes> lnxnt: I believe by default they are the same...
[23:32:58] <krbarnes> but you can change classpath if you want it to be different at run time
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[23:39:53] <lnxnt> did anyone use the spider plugin suggested in "contributing to eclipse:plugins and patterns" and can someone help me with it?
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[23:40:43] <rcjsuen> lnxnt: If you provide more context other people might be able to help.
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