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[00:11:45] <kirkt> is acceleo any good? last time i tried MDA was with androMDA
[00:12:27] <alf_makina> kirkt: yes, I find it very good
[00:12:57] <alf_makina> I'm currently working on a web DSL and a PHP/Zend Framework generator
[00:13:20] <alf_makina> and I've got more problems with php than with MDA =)
[00:15:33] <alf_makina> except for this export problem
[00:16:43] <kirkt> interesting. i'm hearing more and more about DSLS
[00:19:23] <alf_makina> in my case, it's because it will be easier to define a webapp with a dsl than with UML which have to many concepts and always need to play with stereotypes
[00:19:51] <alf_makina> but for now, my DSL is realy closed to UML class diagram
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[00:21:06] <cruss1> Good evening.  Is it possible to set the JPEG encoding level when saving a file?
[00:21:20] <cruss1> The lossiness is harshing my buzz.
[00:21:33] <kirkt> i guess this is where programmers go back to the basics. since DSLs are the next big thing, i guess i should spend more time on compiler theory.
[00:22:21] <kirkt> gtg, good night
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[00:36:44] <d_a_carver> hmmm...unit tests are picky...you make one little change and it causes all 500 tests to fail.. sheesh. :)
[00:38:30] <cruss1> Sounds like some kind of tight coupling.
[00:38:35] <cruss1> :)
[00:38:50] <d_a_carver> or just my plain stupidity. :)
[00:39:08] <cruss1> Yeah, possibly that.  Giving you a away out, though.
[00:40:33] <d_a_carver> :)
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[00:46:11] <jessy_> hi
[00:46:37] <jessy_> anyone know what plugin shouild I install in order to generate UML diagrams from a java project ???
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[01:56:13] <dibblego> how do I view the source of a html file?
[01:57:03] <nitind> When you've done what?
[01:57:38] <dibblego> clicked on it and it shows the file rendered
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[02:04:24] <nitind> Unless there's a Source tab at the bottom, go back to the file and use the Open With context menu to see what else you can do.
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[02:05:38] <dibblego> oh thanks
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[02:10:14] <cesar_CR> hi guys anybody there ???
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[02:23:01] <nitind> If you want to ask a question, ask your question.
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[03:09:55] <pombreda> cruss1: the compression level of jpeg could not be set, I entered a bug on that years ago together with a patch... let me check the status on that
[03:10:08] <pombreda> because of that I only use lossless png with swt now
[03:10:18] <pombreda> the default of 75 sux
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[03:16:47] <pombreda> cruss1: 2.5 years ago in fact: https://bugs.eclipse.org/bugs/show_bug.cgi?id=96320 still open. the patch must be stale of course :-P
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[03:56:47] <blahdeblah> Hi.  I'm reading the 3.3 README, and i can't see anything in it about what i need to do to upgrade plugins.  Will it "just work", or do i need to do some manual upgrading?
[03:57:41] <atomi-> the updater runs at startup blahdeblah
[03:58:12] <blahdeblah> So if i just copy my 3.2 installation directory, extract 3.3 over the top, and start it up, it should go looking for updates?
[03:58:19] <rcjsuen> blahdeblah: That really depends on the plug-ins.
[03:58:32] <blahdeblah> Most of them are pretty well-behaved, i think.
[03:58:36] <rcjsuen> blahdeblah: Extracting 3.3 on top of a 3.2 is dangerous and risky. Advance at your own risk.
[03:59:08] <blahdeblah> rcjsuen: So how can i copy the plugin update sources?
[04:00:39] <blahdeblah> And is there anything significant in eclipse/configuration i should copy?
[04:02:03] <rcjsuen> "plugin update sources"?
[04:02:37] <blahdeblah> rcjsuen: I'm probably not using the right jargon.
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[04:03:21] <blahdeblah> rcjsuen: I mean all the update sources i've added to my eclipse config.  I'm assuming they're stored in the installation directory, not the workspace
[04:04:13] <rcjsuen> Not sure I follow.
[04:04:26] <rcjsuen> Source? URL links?
[04:04:45] <blahdeblah> URLs
[04:04:56] <blahdeblah> I use subclipse, and i've got an update source for it in my Eclipse config.
[04:05:05] <blahdeblah> Where is that stored, and what do i need to do to upgrade it?
[04:06:41] <rcjsuen> Not sure where that is stored, probably somewhere in configuration/
[04:07:09] <rcjsuen> There's a setting to tel lEclipse to check for updates, I've never used it.
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[04:11:54] <jamescarr> I cannot get past eclipse 3.3's DAMN permgen error
[04:12:53] <rcjsuen> jamescarr: What measures have you tried?
[04:12:56] <`m0> Hi, I have an organization issue, say we have 5 projects and some projects depend on other project, and external jars. How would I set that up?
[04:13:08] <`m0> I don't want relative paths
[04:13:25] <jamescarr> `m0: use a dependency manager, like ivy or such
[04:14:31] <nitind> `m0: Or set up build path variables.
[04:15:39] <`m0> I will look into that, thanks
[04:22:26] <jamescarr> rcjsuen: can you point me to docs on fixing permgen issues?
[04:22:37] <jamescarr> my google search came up empty
[04:23:38] <jamescarr> it happens like... as soon as I do something
[04:23:40] <jamescarr> lol
[04:24:20] <rcjsuen> ~tell jamescarr about permgen
[04:24:20] <KOS-MOS> jamescarr: Having permgen problems? Please see http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC_FAQ#I.27m_having_memory.2C_heap.2C_or_permgen_problems.2C_what_can_I_do.3F and http://eclipsenuggets.blogspot.com/2007/10/does-your-eclipse-3.html
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[04:49:42] <jamescarr> rcjsuen: thanks... looks like that fixed it... for now
[05:04:51] <Dewi> (windows) I'd like to use eclipse on a machine where I don't like to run as an Administrator... from googling around I get the feeling this might cause autoupdate problems... should I just install my own personal copy of eclipse in my home dir?
[05:05:11] <Dewi> and by install I mean... unzip :P
[05:06:01] <Honk> or just update eclipse manually once a year or so :P
[05:06:13] <Dewi> well I'm thinking plugins and things
[05:06:32] <jamescarr> is there a way with eclipse J2EE perspective to have it take the jars in your buildpath and deploy them in the WEB-INF/lib dir when you deploy?
[05:07:09] <blahdeblah> How do you turn off comment spell-checking in the Java editor in 3.3?  I can't find any preferences in the Java section...
[05:09:05] <nitind> blahdeblah: Open the Preference dialog and type in "spell".
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[05:09:22] <jamescarr> isn't there an ant wizard in eclipse?
[05:09:37] <jamescarr> something where I just say "use this directory and make me a jar"?
[05:10:08] <blahdeblah> nitind: thanks
[05:10:39] <blahdeblah> nitind: It would be OK if there was some way to add to the dictionary easily, but right clicking the misspelled does nothing... :-(
[05:11:36] <nitind> blahdeblah: Ctrl+1.
[05:11:51] <blahdeblah> Of course - i should have thought of that.  :-)
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[05:25:44] <Honk> Dewi: dunno about windows, but in linux you can install plugins into your homedir
[05:25:50] <Honk> no matter where eclipse is installed
[05:26:59] <rcjsuen> Plug-ins can theoretically be anywhere on your hard drive.
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[05:32:47] <RedMercu1y> is there a cdt specific channel i can ask a cdt question in?
[05:33:47] <rcjsuen> RedMercu1y: Nope. Ask here or on the CDT newsgroups.
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[05:44:23] <blahdeblah> Honk: Sounds interesting - how do you do that?
[05:45:40] <rcjsuen> ~tell blahdeblah about manage
[05:45:41] <KOS-MOS> blahdeblah: Manage your Eclipse environment - http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-ecl-manage/
[05:45:43] <rcjsuen> see m1
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[05:47:18] <RedMercu1y> ok, my question is what are the substitution parameters available, how can i get a list?
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[05:47:43] <RedMercu1y> something akin to msvc's $(EnvVar), for my managed project
[05:47:52] <blahdeblah> Sorry - stupid Pidgin IM.
[05:48:28] <blahdeblah> What was that link again?
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[05:49:34] <Honk> blahdeblah: you just.. uhh.. do :P
[05:49:47] <Honk> that's the standard behaviour if your eclipse installation is not writable
[05:49:50] <Honk> <KOS-MOS> blahdeblah: Manage your Eclipse environment - http://www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/opensource/library/os-ecl-manage/
[05:50:00] <blahdeblah> Honk: thanks
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[05:54:24] <Dewi> Honk: mmm, I found some doco which seemed to indicate it will store things in my homedir if it can't write the program location... however the Update system isn't so smart, it just fails. But hopefully it won't get too tangled up and confused if I run occasionally as Administrator to do updates
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[06:49:21] <Honk> you asked about plugins :]
[06:49:25] <Honk> that's what my answer was about
[06:52:33] <Dewi> Honk: yeah, sorry. I guess I probably should have tried adjusting that 'location' field in the updater. It didn't click that I might be able to change it to anything I liked
[06:53:33] <Honk> just switch to linux ;)
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[07:11:58] <Dewi> Honk: I use linux everywhere but the workstation.
[07:12:45] <Dewi> Honk: everything I need is either ported or just an ssh away. It's a pity X remoting isn't as reliable or comfortable as 'screen'.
[07:15:58] <Honk> the real pitty is that vnc crashes when i use eclipse in it :P
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[07:30:56] <Dewi> Honk: nice!
[07:31:32] <Dewi> Honk: I used to have quite a lot of instability in vnc, but debian etch seems to have settled on a vaguely stable build. It's too slow to work in all day though, even on gigabit lan
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[07:45:17] <DPAK0H> Dewi: you can use cygwin X server, if you need to work on Linux from Windows
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[07:58:41] <Honk> i never had any problems whatsoever using vnc
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[07:58:57] <Honk> unless i start eclipse, then it's a matter of minutes till the vncserver breaks
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[10:13:12] <bobslaede> hey everybody. What java vm is best for eclipse? or does it even matter. I find that eclipse is running really slow, on a pretty up-to-date computer
[10:15:20] <FauxFaux> bobslaede: Anything but gcj. :)
[10:15:36] <bobslaede> of course ;)
[10:16:06] <bobslaede> but i find that eclipse is just really slow, is there something i could do to speed things up?
[10:16:18] <bobslaede> i have to wait for characters to show up on screen when i type
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[10:35:55] <njbartlett_> bobslaede: I've never heard of Eclipse being that slow.
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[10:36:58] <bobslaede> njbartlett_: it is here
[10:37:15] <njbartlett_> bobslaede: Java 6 would be the fastest VM to run, but I suspect that's not the real problem. Have you checked there no other processes spinning out of control and eating your CPU cycles?
[10:37:29] <bobslaede> njbartlett_: yup
[10:37:41] <bobslaede> nothing out of the ordinary
[10:37:57] <njbartlett_> bobslaede: Is it just Eclipse experiencing the slowdown? How about other Java apps?
[10:38:08] <bobslaede> just eclipse
[10:38:38] <bobslaede> you see, my problem is that i use the Zend IDE for php. But that doesnt work with compiz, but eclipse does, but thats slow
[10:38:47] <bobslaede> either way i get stressed out :)
[10:39:04] <njbartlett_> Zend is based on Eclipse anyway, isn't it?
[10:39:23] <bobslaede> njbartlett_: just the new one, the old ones are standalone so to speak
[10:39:29] <njbartlett_> What version of Eclipse are you seeing the problem with?
[10:39:51] <bobslaede> this is 3.2 i think, one second
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[10:40:18] <njbartlett_> Hmm. Well you could try 3.3.1.1
[10:40:31] <njbartlett_> Still, it's pretty mysterious, I don't really know what else to suggest.
[10:41:32] <bobslaede> ok, i'll try the new one
[10:42:17] <bobslaede> ah, eclipse platform 3.2.2? does that sound right
[10:42:27] <bobslaede> oh, 3.3.2
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[11:09:18] <njbartlett_> bobslaede: Sorry, I was making coffee. There is no 3.3.2 yet. You're probably using 3.2.x which is quite old now. Try downloading 3.3.1.1
[11:10:51] <njbartlett_> oisin: Good morning
[11:11:11] <oisin> njbartlett_: hello :)
[11:11:53] <njbartlett_> oisin: Happy New Year and all that
[11:12:54] <oisin> same to you! :)  excuse for a few minutes as I must run away from the desk...
[11:14:10] <njbartlett_> oisin: No problem. Wondering if you're planning to be at QCon London this year? It's the week before EclipseCon this time, rather than the week after.
[11:14:45] <njbartlett_> I know Iona had a stand last year, but don't recall seeing you there
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[11:24:04] <oisin> njbartlett_:  I didn't attend that one - there's enough eclipse specific conferences going on to keep the budget stretched :)
[11:25:16] <njbartlett_> oisin: Yeah tell me about it. At least QCon is in my home city... if only there was a way to avoid the registration fee without having to give a talk :-)
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[11:38:34] <tutnix> is there any way to import a different color scheme for syntax highlighting from other editors to eclipse ?
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[11:47:57] <havocologe> no posibility to import .vim files for syntax highlighting?
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[11:49:38] <nitind> Not unless you can find a plug-in that suports them.  AnyEdit can color a number of different file types.
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[11:53:28] <havocologe> is is right that every single "tag" has to be recolored by hand? or do i simply not find the option for switching to other highlighting modes
[11:53:31] <havocologe> ß
[11:54:18] <nitind> tag?  what?
[11:55:28] <havocologe> i use eclipse with pdt for php developing
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[11:56:09] <havocologe> and now i just want to change the behavior of php syntax highlighting, but preferably not by hand for every colored object
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[12:27:29] <[Klapo]> #eclipse @ irc.rizon.net
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[12:29:52] <osio> hello
[12:30:16] <multi_io> if you want to add JUnit tests to your RCP app, how do you go about it? Add the JUnit plugin to the dependencies? Isn't that less than ideal since you won't need it in the production version?
[12:30:29] <osio> can someone tell me how to turn on the autocomplete function for comments again?
[12:31:20] <osio> motd
[12:31:23] <osio> MOTD
[12:31:26] <osio> MOTD
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[12:50:48] <ech0s7> hello
[12:51:13] <ech0s7> it's possible to change color for class's names (c++)?
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[12:56:42] <havocologe> is it possible to change the behavior of the edtor from dark text on light background to light on dark ?
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[13:09:38] <ech0s7> i have done
[13:09:39] <ech0s7> ok!
[13:10:14] <ech0s7> but now i would to execute in gnome-terminal not in console in eclipse when i click on Run, how i can do??
[13:12:46] <havocologe> is there a place with some ecllipse theme to download ?
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[13:26:01] <njbartlett_> multi_io: I tend to put my unit tests in a fragment
[13:26:52] <njbartlett_> multi_io: Then you can just leave out the testing fragments when you package up the production application. The advantage of a fragment is it has full access to the classpath of its host bundle, even non-exported packages.
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[13:33:30] <pombreda> njbartlett_: ++ for tests fragments, I am using mostly that except for integration tests :-)
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[13:34:13] <pombreda> bbl
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[13:37:19] <ech0s7> i would to execute in gnome-terminal not in console in eclipse when i click on Run, how i can do??
[13:38:36] <rcjsuen> If you want to use 'Run', it is not possible unless you write you create your own launch configuration. For 'External Tools', it might be possible.
[13:38:56] <ech0s7> ok rcjsuen
[13:39:01] <ech0s7> thanks you
[13:39:38] <ech0s7> and i have downloaded the language pack, how i can install it? (there aren't install info)
[13:41:16] <ech0s7> it is an zip file (that contains two folder: "plugin" and "features"
[13:41:32] <ech0s7> i have to move them in /usr/share ?
[13:41:39] <ech0s7> or in /home/.eclipse ?
[13:42:01] <rcjsuen> ech0s7: http://www.eclipse.org/articles/Article-Speak-The-Local-Language/article.html
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[13:42:56] <havocologe> are there any collections of eclipse theme on the net, cause the standard are not really eye friendly .(
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[13:44:06] <rcjsuen> havocologe: Don't think what you want is available. My eyes are fine with it anyway so I never bothered looking.
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[14:22:48] <havocologe> rcjsuen: i just do not like the dark on light ground. normally i have it the other way round
[14:23:16] <rcjsuen> havocologe: I have it the other way around in my terminal and in gVim, but I have it the "regular" way in Eclipse.
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[14:25:23] <havocologe> rcjsuen: hm.. sadly even the vi imports for eclipse are not working on my machine.. think i have to get in touch with it
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[14:31:35] <drkwolf> hi, what's the ecquivalent widget for multi-page editor  in swt/jface ?
[14:32:35] <rcjsuen> ~tell drkwolf about CTabFolder
[14:32:38] <rcjsuen> ~tell drkwolf about api CTabFolder
[14:32:38] <KOS-MOS> drkwolf: org.eclipse.swt.custom.CTabFolder - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/swt/custom/CTabFolder.html
[14:33:19] <drkwolf> rcjsuen: i want to use mutli-tab  item iside ctabFolder
[14:33:26] <drkwolf> inside*
[14:33:46] <rcjsuen> Okay, so what's the problem
[14:34:48] <drkwolf> i'm looking for the widget that can do that
[14:35:15] <rcjsuen> I don't follow.
[14:35:29] <rcjsuen> You use a CTabFolder and CTabItem and you can achieve what a multipage editor does.
[14:39:50] <rcjsuen> drkwolf: The Platform uses a CTabFolder to implement a MPEP. No hacks were involved as far as I know.
[14:39:52] <drkwolf> sorry, i want a item widget that can have more than one view, i lookeed at azurues code & they implemented thier one widget for that
[14:40:09] <rcjsuen> Item widget that can have more than one view?
[14:40:20] <drkwolf> rcjsuen: my application is not  RCP
[14:40:31] <rcjsuen> drkwolf: CTabFolder is SWT API not RCP.
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[14:42:07] <rcjsuen> drkwolf: Please take a screenshot of Azureus with what you want to achieve.
[14:42:20] <drkwolf> rcjsuen: 1 sc
[14:42:21] <kirkt> is there any way to export my entire plugin to jar so i can test it on non-PDE environment?
[14:42:33] <rcjsuen> kirkt: File > Export?
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[14:43:22] <kirkt> ah.. cool i was looking for 'create jar' of sorts :)
[14:45:31] <drkwolf> rcjsuen: http://beauregard.ch/azureus.png
[14:47:27] <rcjsuen> as aforementioned, a CTabFolder will do that
[14:47:33] <rcjsuen> just put a CTabFolder in a CTabFolder?
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[14:49:34] <drkwolf> i try it already & it doesn't work
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[14:54:43] <sigius> When debuging a c application in Europa how do I disable 'build before launch ' (i.e. I do not want the application to be rebuild before starting the debugging session)
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[14:57:45] <DamienCassou> hi
[14:59:01] <DamienCassou> I'm looking for a plugin which would display the java classes in a kind of hierarchical view : subclasses of classes in the same package are indented
[14:59:08] <DamienCassou> is there something existing ?
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[15:02:01] <dominikg> DamienCassou, you could try the java browsing perspective and the hirachial presentation of the package explorer
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[15:04:07] <DamienCassou> dominikg: I'm using the browsing perspective already. In fact, I would like something like that for the classes
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[15:14:15] <DamienCassou> there is a lot of trafic here
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[15:21:06] <conan> oh my god this is very embarrassing - http://www.eclipse.org/nebula/widgets/compositetable/screencasts/30sec.html
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[15:24:45] <rcjsuen> drkwolf: what doesn't work
[15:24:53] <rcjsuen> drkwolf: what do you see? pastebin your code
[15:25:09] <rcjsuen> drkwolf: did you get a simple CTabFolder to run without a nesting structure for starters?
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[15:34:40] <kirkt> conan?
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[15:43:02] <conan> kirkt: listen to the audio, he does a rap.
[15:43:13] <kirkt> oh my mic is off. will do
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[15:51:49] <chevol> Anyone here have Glade experience on Ubuntu
[15:52:38] <rcjsuen> chevol: I have Glade experience on Gentoo, not sure if this is relevant to Eclipse though.
[15:53:36] <chevol> I am still having problems trying to export to a jar using Glade because of gktjni
[15:54:18] <chevol> because it links to libgtkjni in /usr/lib/jni
[15:55:00] <chevol> when I export the jar it can't finds the link unless I add -Djava.library.path=/usr/lib/jni which I don't expect my end users to do
[15:55:15] <Carnage\> What's the way to go if I want to schedule a background job and at a specific point in time, when the background job has not yet finished its work, I want it to become a foreground job to let the user know that its result is required to carry on?
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[15:56:15] <rcjsuen> chevol: Well, if it was in /usr/lib/ this probably wouldn't be a problem.
[15:56:47] <chevol> yeah I know but its an Ubuntu problem
[15:57:00] <rcjsuen> Carnage\: Don't think that's possible.
[15:57:03] <chevol> trust me rcjsuen its pissing me off
[15:57:04] <ijuma> conan: lol
[15:57:09] <ijuma> conan: that's funny :)
[15:57:14] <conan> :)
[15:57:17] <rcjsuen> If you want it on the foreground you need to call setUser in the beginning.
[15:57:25] <conan> look at nebula seems to be getting quite powerful now
[15:57:49] <Carnage\> rcjsuen: Hmm, but doesn't the JDT do simlar things like building in background and blocking when you want to change something?
[15:57:50] <conan> trying to figure out how or if I could use the ghantt modeller to some how orchestrate rules or or temporal CEP type stuff.
[15:58:10] <rcjsuen> Carnage\: I think the framework is handling that.
[15:58:26] <conan> btw does any one know if the nebula grid contorl allows row spans- the examples only show column spanning or a row (apart from  the header0.
[15:58:37] <Carnage\> Hmm, so you see no easy way to accomplish that?
[15:58:54] <rcjsuen> Carnage\: I think TodC might be able to help.
[15:59:11] <chevol> is there any way I can export native libraries or something to avoid this error?
[15:59:14] <Carnage\> rcjsuen: Lemme see, thanks ;)
[15:59:34] <Carnage\> TodC: Would you be so kind and message me when you're around, please?
[15:59:38] <rcjsuen> Carnage\: When all else fails, just debug in the code and see what's up
[15:59:46] <rcjsuen> chevol: Try putting the libraries in your jar, that might work.
[16:00:50] <chevol> rcjsuen: tried that to no avail
[16:00:59] <rcjsuen> chevol: ask in ##java
[16:01:03] <rcjsuen> how to bundle native libs with a jar
[16:01:23] <chevol> rcjsuen: I will give that a shot thanks
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[16:03:47] <jonalv> How can I set the name of an editor to the name of the edited entity?
[16:04:04] <rcjsuen> Say what now, "name of an editor"?
[16:04:12] <rcjsuen> How do you define "the name"
[16:04:51] <jonalv> okey "that which is shown at the tab"
[16:05:15] <jonalv> maybe a bit unclear.. :)
[16:05:17] <rcjsuen> jonalv: What kind of editor are you writing
[16:05:54] <jonalv> it extends EditorPart
[16:06:08] <rcjsuen> jonalv: You have your own IEditorInput?
[16:06:26] <jonalv> hang on
[16:06:33] <jonalv> (I didn't write this today...)
[16:06:36] <rcjsuen> Can't you call setPartTitle?
[16:06:46] <jonalv> probably
[16:07:14] <jonalv> where is it?
[16:07:37] <jonalv> there is a setPartName...
[16:07:46] <jonalv> might that be it?
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[16:08:21] <rcjsuen> jonalv: Try and find out ;)
[16:08:37] <jonalv> yes I am  :)
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[16:10:29] <jonalv> yep that was it, thanks
[16:11:19] <rcjsuen> coo
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[17:15:51] <multi_io> njbartlett_: ok, thanks for the tip
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[17:42:16] <hendrixski> Is there any extra magick I need to perform to make the PHP debugger stop at a line of code?  I remember the Java debugger I would just double-click the line number and it would stop, but with the PHP debugger, I set a few breakpoints and the debugger stops at none of them, just goes through the end and shows the buggy page.
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[17:48:43] <zx|cafe> I'm not sure, it could be a bug. You can try asking the same question on the PDT newsgroups for more help
[17:49:31] <hendrixski> zx|cafe, are there IRC channels for individual eclipse projects as well, or just newsgroups?
[17:49:55] <zx|cafe> hendrixski: it depends on the project
[17:49:59] <zx|cafe> hendrixski: http://wiki.eclipse.org/IRC
[17:50:08] <hendrixski> ah
[17:50:11] <zx|cafe> hendrixski: traditionally, the Platform team has been on IRC forever
[17:50:26] <zx|cafe> hendrixski: only recently has the Modeling/EMF guys started to form a presence
[17:50:53] <zx|cafe> hendrixski: some people don't "get IRC" so I can understand why they don't idle here. However, I'm an older school open source guy so IRC is my lifeline
[17:51:45] <hendrixski> heh, yeah IRC is largely a cultural phenomenon
[17:52:47] <hendrixski> I used to just use Eclipse, and if I couldn't do it, I just assumed Eclipse can't do it
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[17:53:32] <zx|cafe> lol
[17:53:37] <hendrixski> now I've switched to Linux.. and discovered that you can't get anything done on it without IRC... so I figured I'd poke around in here
[17:53:56] <zx|cafe> I assume that I can do anything with Eclipse, I just have to find out how ;)
[17:54:54] <hendrixski> zx|cafe, I realize that now.  Although, There's always that time/benefit analysis
[17:55:08] <zx|cafe> hendrixski: ya, that's another story :)
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[17:56:10] <hendrixski> ya ... well, for now I'll go old school with print statements...  I'm hopefully NEVER going to do anything with PHP again :-p
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[18:12:42] <MadOtis> Hello all...  I am trying to setup the TPTP agent on a Linux host running java 1.5.13.  When I try to run the SetConfig.sh script, I get an error telling me my JVM "does not contain a suitable JAXP feature".  Any ideas what I need to do to fix this?
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[18:15:42] <ulfdoz> MadOtis: Jaxp comes with 1.6 for any early versions, you must install it manually.
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[18:20:53] <MadOtis> ulfdoz: Does that mean the Agent itself must run under Java 6?  Even though my server I am trying to attach to runs under Java 5?
[18:23:04] <ulfdoz> MadOtis: No, if it doesnt require any other features. You must install the packages and supply a suitable classpath.
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[18:24:04] <MadOtis> ok, so if I just install jaxp, I can run it using Java 5?
[18:24:13] <MadOtis> And add it to my classpath, of course.
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[18:26:03] <]{afteji> hello
[18:26:42] <]{afteji> hi
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[18:29:58] <ulfdoz> MadOtis: If you don't run into other dependency trouble, then yes.
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[18:32:49] <kafteji> hi all
[18:37:01] <MadOtis> ulfdoz: Thank you, that fixed it up.
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[19:00:21] <railbait> Hello
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[19:01:32] <railbait> Other than macro-shmacro, is there a built in Eclipse way of sequencing common actions?
[19:01:54] <railbait> Like a Format -> Save -> Upload sequence
[19:02:01] <railbait> Similar to like how WoW (silly example) does its macros
[19:02:55] <railbait> http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Web_Links-index-req-viewlink-cid-627.html doesn't seem to be very amazing from the feedback
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[19:11:57] <timothym> railbait: I don't think there's anything in Eclipse to do exactly what you want or a plugin that could do that. You might be able to set the project's settings to auto format when saving but I can't think of anything for starting an upload.
[19:12:13] <timothym> You could try an Ant script for uploading files though.
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[19:15:36] <mindFul> Hi everyone ! I recently began using eclipse and I would like to know, is it possible to associate a perspective with a file type ?
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[19:25:44] <paulweb515> mindFul: file types are associated with editors
[19:26:01] <paulweb515> mindFul: there's no support for switching/opening a perspective when opening a file, at least not by default
[19:26:09] <paulweb515> mindFul: but it wouldn't be hard to write it
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[20:19:53] <mindFul> paulweb515 : Thanks. I understand, it would be pretty computer-intensive to switch/open perspectives everytime you change file ... I guess i'm better off getting used to switching manually when needed .. thanks for the FIletype/Editor info tho
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[20:25:34] <railbait> Perhaps a command button that could shell out to just a system script, like a bash script or batch file
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[20:26:57] <timothym> railbait: in that case I think Run > External Tools might be what you're looking for
[20:27:45] <railbait> Maybe I'll backburner an eclipse plugin for later development. I haven't tried to do that yet so it could be an educational experience.
[20:29:27] <rcjsuen> Ians: Thank you for bringing it back.
[20:29:41] <rcjsuen> Although the page seems stale http://www.eclipse.org/org/foundation/eclipseawards/index.php
[20:29:47] <Ians> you beat me to it.  I was going to sent you a message
[20:29:48] <rcjsuen> nm, a refresh did it
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[20:41:53] <kirkt> i need to dynamically load a class from file, in my plugin. should i do that manually or does eclipse provide a utility function for that ?
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[20:43:52] <paulweb515> kirkt: what control do you have over where you get the class file?
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[21:08:00] <kirkt> paulweb515: sorry for the late response
[21:08:09] <kirkt> the class file will be within the plugin hirarchy
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[21:14:03] <rcjsuen> vwegert: Please add to the FAQ if you have anything to add to your experiences with IGotoMarker. http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Plug-in_Development_FAQ#How_can_I_make_my_editor_respond_to_a_user_opening_a_marker.3F
[21:14:48] <rcjsuen> I mean, based on your experiences...
[21:15:06] <vwegert> rcjsuen: I don't really have anything to add. The EMF generated editor works, unless you happen to do stupid things that break it - which is basically what I did.
[21:15:31] <rcjsuen> vwegert: Well, if you could just read over the answer to the question, just to see if it sounds right.
[21:15:43] <rcjsuen> I've done it before, so it obviously makes sense to me.
[21:16:01] <rcjsuen> Not a very useful FAQ if too abstract / high level / low level / whatever / you know what I mean.
[21:17:19] <vwegert> rcjsuen: Perhaps just a word about the editor input (bad idea to mess with it because the platform relies on it to find the correct editor"?
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[21:18:52] <rcjsuen> hm
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[21:21:14] <Lurer> Hi, do anybody know where I can find a hibernate ide for eclipse 3.0.2 (RAD6)? :)
[21:21:35] <Lurer> Most versions I find is for eclipse 3.1+
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[21:24:50] <edrin> i want my current object to dynamically become an instance of a class derived from the class my current object is an instance of. how can I do this?
[21:25:28] <rcjsuen> Is that even possible
[21:25:31] <vwegert> nope
[21:25:44] <edrin> rcjsuen: that's the question
[21:25:52] <edrin> rcjsuen: it's like this:
[21:25:59] <rcjsuen> vwegert: That's what I thought.
[21:26:08] <vwegert> unless using something like http://www.objectteams.org/
[21:26:33] <vwegert> and even that is more like weaving-annotating
[21:27:19] <rcjsuen> edrin: Maybe you should rethink your design. Or maybe use another language (if some other language supports this, I don't know).
[21:27:33] <edrin> i do: myObject = new TheClass(); myObject.update(); -> then it could happen: myObject instanceof TheDerivedClass == true
[21:27:54] <edrin> hm
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[21:28:52] <vwegert> edrin: You'll have to use something like the adaptable concept - or throw away and recreate your instance. You can't change the dynamic type of an instance once it's created
[21:28:59] <rcjsuen> That would kind of make instanceof checks pointless. If I checked it earlier, then I use it a bit, then I try to cast later, then it fails? o.O
[21:29:37] <kirkt> edrin what if update() returned an object of derived instead ?
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[21:32:31] <kirkt> whats the thing i need to use in order to enable my plugin to have a section in the eclipse configuration ?
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[21:32:52] <vwegert> This Object Teams stuff is cool, btw - in a demo session, Stephan added some code that prevented a certain type name from being used in the JDT create class dialog - without even touching the original code, just by weaving his changes in at runtime.
[21:32:56] <vwegert> kirkt: Preferences?
[21:33:09] <rcjsuen> You mean eclipse/configuration?
[21:33:48] <rcjsuen> I wish caps were properly parsed in Quick Outline like in Open Type.
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[21:34:41] <kirkt> rcjsuen is that an extension point ?
[21:34:55] <rcjsuen> Don't think so.
[21:35:00] <rcjsuen> ~api Platform#getConfigurationLocation()
[21:35:00] <KOS-MOS> Platform#getConfigurationLocation - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/core/runtime/Platform.html#getConfigurationLocation()
[21:36:01] <kirkt> so with this i can make my own configuration form to be appendedt to eclipse' main configuration ?
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[21:37:45] <rcjsuen> ~tell kirkt about api ConfigurationScope
[21:37:45] <KOS-MOS> kirkt: org.eclipse.core.runtime.preferences.ConfigurationScope - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/core/runtime/preferences/ConfigurationScope.html
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[21:44:04] <kirkt> hmm i think org.eclipse.ui.preferencePages might be it
[21:44:19] <kirkt> unless this is deprecated?
[21:45:09] <rcjsuen> Adding a preference page doesn't really do anything.
[21:45:21] <rcjsuen> Not unless you actually write the preferences to disk.
[21:45:32] <rcjsuen> Are you trying to write workspace settings or what
[21:46:07] <kirkt> yes it says, on clayberg's book, that it would use the Prefrences API
[21:46:29] <kirkt> trying to have somewhere i could set plugin configurations
[21:46:34] <rcjsuen> well, if you feed it an IPreferenceStore
[21:46:48] <kirkt> yep, i'll read this chapter first
[21:47:05] <rcjsuen> Use the template that the preferencePages extension point provides and the rest should be straightforward.
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[21:47:49] <kirkt> ok
[21:53:23] <vwegert> kirkt: QE3?
[21:53:27] <vwegert> QE2 that is?
[21:54:06] <vwegert> kirkt: Chapter 12 ("Preference Pages" in this case)
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[21:56:59] <kirkt> yes, chapter 12
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[22:03:25] <grEvenX> good solution for working with remote files in eclipse?
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[22:03:53] <rcjsuen> ~tell grEvenX about tm
[22:03:54] <KOS-MOS> grEvenX: Check out Eclipse's Target Management project - http://www.eclipse.org/dsdp/tm/
[22:04:15] <grEvenX> rcjsuen: yeah, tm seems great, but unfortunately it doesn't work so well with all plugins :(
[22:04:27] <rcjsuen> Did you file bugs?
[22:04:51] <grEvenX> I have filed bugs for the concerned project (phpeclipse)
[22:04:56] <grEvenX> they will be working on it
[22:05:17] <rcjsuen> great to hear
[22:05:22] <grEvenX> but it seems there will need to be much refactoring of code before it will be a good solution
[22:05:46] <grEvenX> I helped patch up a bug there last night so it could be used with tm at all
[22:05:53] <grEvenX> but atm it's very slow
[22:05:56] <grEvenX> and buggy
[22:06:05] <grEvenX> any other good solutions=?
[22:06:22] <grEvenX> I just need something temporarily till those issues are sorted out
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[22:08:15] <shk3> hi all
[22:08:22] <shk3> i have a question:
[22:08:35] <shk3> does anybody know how to open the help programmatically?
[22:08:39] <shk3> showing a certain page?
[22:08:47] <shk3> from an rcp application
[22:08:59] <rcjsuen> ~tell grEvenX about plugins
[22:09:00] <KOS-MOS> grEvenX: Look for plug-ins at the Eclipse Plug-in Central (http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/) and EclipsePlugins (http://eclipse-plugins.info)
[22:09:39] <kirkt> should i use plugin-specific configuration (like which classes to use etc.) that is out of the user's reach in the preference store too? or make a separate textfile/xml config of my own ?
[22:09:52] <rcjsuen> shk3: Can't you use the Help APIs?
[22:10:01] <rcjsuen> shk3: http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/help/standalone/Help.html
[22:11:10] <shk3> sounds good
[22:11:15] <shk3> didn't know that
[22:11:20] <shk3> thanks...will try
[22:11:56] <grEvenX> rcjsuen: I have looked, but the sftp plugins and stuff I've found doesn't work with Eclipse 3.1 >
[22:12:25] <rcjsuen> grEvenX: I think most people just use TM these days.
[22:12:37] <rcjsuen> Did you ask the phpeclipse guys what they use?
[22:13:17] <grEvenX> I think they had most stuff locally, and used a versioncontrol system to commit it to the server after testing
[22:13:33] <grEvenX> but some of my projects can't be done locally
[22:13:40] <grEvenX> hmm
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[22:14:07] <grEvenX> guess I'll have to continue using Zend Studio until things are sorted out
[22:14:14] <shk3> sounds like that's for standalone apps.
[22:14:23] <shk3> I have an rcp app. Or can/shall I still use it?
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[22:14:40] <grEvenX> I tried the Eclipse based Zend Studio, but that version was crap :P
[22:14:57] * rcjsuen shrugs at shk3.
[22:14:58] <rcjsuen> Try and find out.
[22:15:18] <rcjsuen> shk3: You want the Help browser to open on a specific topic?
[22:15:23] <shk3> yes
[22:15:37] <rcjsuen> shk3: Have you seen it done in Eclipse?
[22:15:40] <shk3> no
[22:15:51] <shk3> hoped it would be possible
[22:15:54] <shk3> still
[22:16:02] <rcjsuen> Are you talking about like clicking question marks in wizards and how it opens a help extension on the dialog?
[22:16:23] <shk3> yes
[22:16:36] <rcjsuen> But you want a new shell to open?
[22:16:53] <shk3> that's what eclipse does by default, I think
[22:17:02] <rcjsuen> Eclipse extends the wizard dialog actually.
[22:17:21] <shk3> thinking about it ... it's a bit like a context sensitive help
[22:17:25] <shk3> never tried that in eclipse
[22:17:26] <rcjsuen> shk3: http://www.streambase.com/collateral/images/english-us/articles/javatoolkit/csHelp.png
[22:18:47] <shk3> hm, I don't have a wizard actually
[22:18:58] <shk3> I have an intro page and want a link to the help on it.
[22:19:13] <rcjsuen> But you're talking about something like that, right?
[22:19:27] <shk3> the intro page is supposed to have a button or image
[22:19:32] <shk3> which opens the help
[22:19:48] <shk3> like the user goes to to help contens
[22:19:49] <rcjsuen> http://www.hibernate.org/hib_docs/tools/eclipse/newandnoteworthy/wikisearch.png
[22:19:54] <shk3> and chooses a topic
[22:20:37] <rcjsuen> shk3: so it's the same as going to help through the Help menu on the top?
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[22:20:49] <shk3> exactly
[22:20:54] <shk3> just by code
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[22:21:08] <rcjsuen> so just put breakpoints and see how they do it?
[22:21:28] <shk3> hm, where should I put the breakpoint
[22:21:35] <shk3> (sorry for stupid questions)
[22:21:47] <rcjsuen> ~tell shk3 about dev-faq
[22:21:48] <KOS-MOS> shk3: Trying to write Eclipse plug-ins and don't know how to proceed? Take a look at this FAQ - http://wiki.eclipse.org/Eclipse_Plug-in_Development_FAQ
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[22:22:05] <rcjsuen> shk3: look in the User Interface section
[22:22:06] <rcjsuen> and think
[22:22:11] <rcjsuen> I'll leave it to you as an exercise.
[22:22:34] <shk3> thanks
[22:22:36] <shk3> will try
[22:22:48] <rcjsuen> if you don't figure it out in five minutes let me know
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[22:25:18] <Daetur> hey I am trying to add a view on the press of a button in the coolbar, how do I get the current perspective and its layout?
[22:25:34] <Daetur> working with RAP
[22:25:56] <rcjsuen> add a view?
[22:25:59] <rcjsuen> You mean show a view?
[22:26:20] <Daetur> actually i would prefer add, if thats somehow possibly after creation
[22:26:54] <rcjsuen> Define "add".
[22:27:48] <Daetur> ok the program has a perspective and in it two views, now I click and close that view, and on the click of a button I want to add another view
[22:28:18] <rcjsuen> How do you define "add"
[22:28:23] <rcjsuen> It just gets added to the view stack
[22:28:27] <rcjsuen> But is not brought to the front to the user?
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[22:28:50] <Daetur> just like its done in createInitialLayout in the Perspective.java
[22:29:26] <Daetur> creating a folderlayout, adding a view to that
[22:30:14] <rcjsuen> That is essentially synonymous with showing the view.
[22:30:27] <rcjsuen> Unless it is any but the first, in which case those are stacked.
[22:30:38] <rcjsuen> ~tell Daetur about IWorkbenchPage
[22:30:41] <rcjsuen> read up on the showView methods
[22:30:43] <rcjsuen> ~tell Daetur about api IWorkbenchPage
[22:30:44] <KOS-MOS> Daetur: org.eclipse.ui.IWorkbenchPage - http://help.eclipse.org/stable/nftopic/org.eclipse.platform.doc.isv/reference/api/org/eclipse/ui/IWorkbenchPage.html
[22:32:45] <rcjsuen> I don't know how you'd get the current layout though.
[22:32:56] <rcjsuen> Because that would mean you're screwing with someone's configuration.
[22:32:58] <rcjsuen> Which would be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad
[22:33:16] <Daetur> well its my configuration I am screwing with :)
[22:34:20] <rcjsuen> anyway, try the showView method
[22:34:23] <rcjsuen> I think it'll do what you want.
[22:34:28] <rcjsuen> as for positioning, i don't know aobut that
[22:34:31] <Daetur> lets see
[22:34:33] <rcjsuen> paulweb515 might have an idea
[22:34:39] <rcjsuen> If he's still here.
[22:39:24] <kirkt> rcjsuen the whole prefrences extension thing is great, well thought out and easy.
[22:39:39] <rcjsuen> kirkt: k
[22:44:05] <rcjsuen> shk3: Any luck?
[22:45:03] <shk3> looks like
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[22:45:17] <shk3> there's a IBrowser which seems to be used
[22:45:29] <shk3> and an implentation obviously
[22:45:31] <shk3> just trying
[22:45:41] <rcjsuen> shk3: PlatformUI.getWorkbench().getHelpSystem().displayHelp() was what I was looking at.
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[22:46:05] <shk3> that sounds easier
[22:47:47] <shk3> new SystemBrowserAdapter().displayURL seems to do it as well
[22:47:57] <shk3> but your's is probably the official way
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[23:11:02] <mo> hi everyone. why does my processbuilder throw an IOexception?
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[23:18:03] <dominikg> mo, at least pastebin the ioexeptions stacktrace.
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[23:21:29] <mo> dominikg: http://phpfi.com/287937
[23:22:47] <kirkt> is there any quick utility to model an swt gui and get the code for it?
[23:23:06] <kirkt> (other than using the visual designer, i want something lightweight and standalone)
[23:23:46] <mo> the code is like this: builder = new ProcessBuilder("foo.bat",arg); builder.directory(dir); builder = builder.redirectErrorStream(); proc = builder.start();
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[23:33:03] <rorUnni> hi guys, i'm currently trying to modify a generated gmf editor to do an arrange all on every change. I've tried to create an ArrangeRequest but I'm somewhat unable to get the corresponding Command to execute it. I've also tried to do something similar like the ArrangAllAction for the toolbar does, but that leaves with nullpointer expception :(
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