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[01:03:51] <adamkex> hey, how can i enable video files being played in my browser?
[01:05:56] <pcgod> os/version?
[01:07:11] <adamkex> pcgod: gentoo/5.0.307.7
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[01:10:31] <pcgod> adamkex: the gentoo ebuilds should play h264 video (if you have the ffmpeg useflag set)
[01:12:16] <adamkex> that's odd since i have that useflag
[01:12:47] <adamkex> pcgod: i can't play vorbis
[01:13:18] <adamkex> for example http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ogg_video lower on the page
[01:15:13] <pcgod> that video doesn't even work on windows chrome ;) (I see the first 2 seconds and after that the renderer crashes)
[01:16:04] <adamkex> oh
[01:16:27] <adamkex> ok
[01:17:20] <adamkex> i can install google-chrome and compare
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[01:23:15] <adamkex> pcgod: if it's relevant
[01:29:07] <rubenbb> why would it be?  if it doesn't play on windows chrome, the only way you could get it to play is by invoking some outside video player
[01:37:22] <pcgod> it also doesn't play correctly on linux (but at least it doesn't crash the renderer)
[01:39:44] <rubenbb> hmm, that biplane video plays for me, the audio plays all the way through
[01:40:07] <rubenbb> however, the video freezes a couple seconds in, as I've noticed happening on theora videos for recent chromium builds
[01:40:53] <rubenbb> the theora videos at http://openvideo.dailymotion.com/ have been doing the same for me since my latest build, audio plays fine but video freezes 2-15 seconds in
[01:48:57] <pcgod> rubenbb: same here and every seek on windows crashes
[01:49:27] <pcgod> (some video have completly no video output, only audio)
[01:49:45] <adamkex> mine won't play at all
[01:51:17] <adamkex> google-chrome seems to do it now
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[04:08:26] <aaron_liuj> how to got chrome code for compiling for arm arch system
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[04:15:25] <Moon_Doggy> i have a question about the chrome browser not the os is that ok
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[10:59:55] <WormFood> ok, what do i have to do to make chrome work with pulseaudio? It used to work for me in the past, but not now.
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[11:45:39] <deuterium> re, i post my user question here again:
[11:45:58] <deuterium> when i select text on a web page and use "search on google" in the context menu, the newly opened tab gets the focus immediately. how can i prevent this? i.e. i want that new tab be opened in the background, not in the foreground.
[11:47:03] <rubenbb> try looking for an extension for it, there are extensions that deal with tab focus in other situations
[11:47:22] <rubenbb> if not, it should be easy fix in the code, if you're comfortable doing that
[11:49:02] <deuterium> rubenbb: i've allready searched the extensions.. there's only one that moves tabs to the foreground. so i've tried to write an extension that does the opposiite (prevents new tabs from stealing the focus), but that didn't work in the case of "search on google". i guess, it's hard-coded (*urgh*)
[11:50:55] <rubenbb> not that it's hard-coded, just that it affects a situation that the extensions api apparently doesn't let you modify
[11:52:14] <deuterium> to be honest i think that's pretty ugly and i can't help but think that this is a selfish act of google to promote their search page
[11:52:54] <deuterium> rubenbb: well, the listener was for _any_ new tab, according to the extensions api. why wouldn't a new tab opened by "search on google" qualify as a new tab?
[11:53:44] <rubenbb> I don't think it has to do with google search, if I search for something, I want it focusing right away
[11:53:46] <pcgod> it's search for X in your <default search engine> ... not google only
[11:55:58] <deuterium> rubenbb: that's your opinion. i prefer it differently and so seem many others. on firefox, the new tab created by "search on xy" doesn't get the focus. it's much more userfriendly and consistent, given that other new tabs aren't opened in the foreground either.
[11:56:50] <deuterium> rubenbb: besides, that doesn't answer my question why this is handled so inconsistently and why it somehow manages to pass a "new tab" listener.
[11:58:18] <rubenbb> it's "inconsistent" because that's what most people would prefer.  If firefox does it differently, then it's doing it wrong
[11:59:09] <rubenbb> as for passing the new tab listener, either it's coded wrong or they somehow don't pass that new tab through the extensions api
[12:00:35] <deuterium> rubenbb: got any survey results for your statement?
[12:01:34] <rubenbb> new tabs from a link are often opened in batch, I might go down a page and open several links in new tabs
[12:01:42] <rubenbb> that's not the case with searches, hence the difference
[12:01:58] <rubenbb> nope, no survey, I just know what people do, as apparently does google
[12:02:01] <deuterium> that's totally non-scientific and makes no sense
[12:02:29] <rubenbb> well, so far, you're just as non-scientific :P but at least I'm making sense ;)
[12:04:49] <rubenbb> look at line 829 on this page, that's what you want to change - http://src.chromium.org/viewvc/chrome/trunk/src/chrome/browser/tab_contents/render_view_context_menu.cc?view=annotate
[12:05:28] <deuterium> fact 1) it _is_ inconsistent behaviour 2) "search on xy" seems to override/pass new tab listeners 4) there's no rational reason for not providing a user option to control this behaviour, given it's inconsistent and unexpected 4) firefox is in the game for quite some longer time than chrome and they handle this consistently, backed by user feedback surveys
[12:05:43] <deuterium> rubenbb: ok
[12:06:07] <deuterium> and make that first 4) a 3) ;)
[12:11:45] <rubenbb> that'll change two situations though, the one you want to change is IDS_CONTENT_CONTEXT_SEARCHWEBFOR, you may need to break it out into its own case
[12:12:56] <deuterium> as a quick-fix, i'm fine with changing both. but a real fix would need to address this properly, right.
[12:17:41] <deuterium> rubenbb: thx for the hint
[12:17:59] <rubenbb> sure
[12:25:50] <WormFood> does pulseaudio work with chrome for anyone?
[12:26:13] <rubenbb> chromium uses alsa
[12:27:29] <WormFood> so how do I make it work with pulseaudio?
[12:27:43] <WormFood> it WAS working in the past, but I'll be damned if I can make it work now :(
[12:35:24] <rubenbb> if you run from console, does it spit any errors when you try to play audio?
[12:36:51] <WormFood> it depends on how I run it...If I don't call it with padsp, and the sound is in use, it will spit out errors...if sound is not in use, it works ok, but nothing else can use sound.
[12:37:29] <WormFood> if I call it with padsp, I get no sound
[12:42:37] <rubenbb> what errors does it spit in the first case?
[13:00:21] <WormFood> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1010:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave
[13:01:36] <rubenbb> any errors with padsp?
[13:10:03] <WormFood> no
[13:10:22] <WormFood> sorry for the slow response rubenbb...have some things going on at home....but I should be ok now
[13:11:07] <WormFood> no errors with padsp, but also no audio
[13:12:53] <rubenbb> did you upgrade your alsa or pulseaudio recently?  sounds like something changed with your libraries or configuration, not chrome
[13:13:51] <WormFood> I try to keep my system up to date, but I don't know if the last update did anything with audio
[13:14:33] <rubenbb> well, what changed around the time audio stopped working?  If you didn't upgrade chrome then, then it must be one of those libraries that changed
[13:15:30] <WormFood> it hasn't been working in over a month, so I don't remember anything different or odd about that time.
[13:15:50] <WormFood> I can reboot, but I really don't think it will help
[13:16:05] <rubenbb> what chrome version?
[13:16:17] <WormFood> latest...just downloaded it an hour or two ago
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[13:17:52] <WormFood> 5.0.348.0 (40885)
[13:17:58] <rubenbb> does aplay work normally?
[13:17:59] <acegiak> anyone been able to make web-apps work in docks like docky or awn?
[13:18:09] <rubenbb> try aplay with some wav file
[13:18:15] <WormFood> hold on a sec
[13:18:54] <WormFood> yeah, aplay works ok
[13:19:00] <WormFood> but chrome isn't running too
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[13:20:27] <acegiak> cause at the moment i'm having to use prism for my web-apps cause it docks properly, which removes the main point of getting chrome for me
[13:22:39] <rubenbb> WormFood: I'd take it up in some forum for your distro, sound problems are flaky stuff, better to ask them
[13:22:49] <rubenbb> WormFood: I doubt it's a chromium problem
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[13:26:04] <meowbuntu> ok point can anyone out there help me find a good file download manager for chromeium. something like firefoxs downthemall
[13:26:33] <rubenbb> meowbuntu: did you try looking on the extensions site?
[13:26:44] <meowbuntu> i heard that fiel download manager was good but i can only find a .exe for it
[13:27:38] <meowbuntu> rubenbb, yes i just want to get recomendations adn find out if there is a ubuntu/linux version for fdm
[13:27:54] <meowbuntu> fiel = file
[13:28:41] <meowbuntu> this is all i could find http://www.chromeplugins.org/google/chrome-tools/only-download-manager-supports-chrome-7297.html
[13:30:38] <meowbuntu> rubenbb, do you use any with chromium
[13:30:43] <rubenbb> dunno what that is, you should be looking here - https://chrome.google.com/extensions
[13:31:06] <meowbuntu> http://www.chromeplugins.org/chrome/list-of-download-managers-for-google-chrome/
[13:31:16] <meowbuntu> ^ rubenbb take a look at that
[13:32:38] <meowbuntu> rubenbb, there are not really any there that i can see in the addons site
[13:32:52] <meowbuntu> thats y i am here
[13:34:30] <rubenbb> I don't use that stuff
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[13:54:26] <WormFood> oh yeah, and when I close chrome, it just closes the window, and chrome is still running...so even after I close chrome, I still can't play music :(
[13:54:34] <WormFood> I'm beginning to dislike chrome more and more.
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[13:56:45] <SeanBannister-> Does anyone else notice Chrome seems to crash and take all the tabs with it, seems to often happen when I load up YouTube so I presume it's a Flash problem
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[14:17:13] <Wunderkind> hello all
[14:17:16] <Wunderkind> wtf is going on here? - http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/27/10327570.png
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[15:44:43] <tafryn> I'd like to use the new content blocking options for javascript and plug-ins, but they appear to break many of my extensions. Is there a way around this?
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[16:02:50] <Aerdan> presumably the content-blocking blocks context scripts (which there's no real way to fix that isn't hackish).
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[16:35:56] <zinox> google chrome can consume much more memory, than the whole Windows 7, it´s not weird? do google chrome developers are doing something to reduce google chrome memory consume? .. i know memory is cheap but not any make sense a browser take much memory than whole  SO
[16:37:14] <Aerdan> zinox: the fact that you're in here talking about it means you don't know what you're talking about. please shut up and learn what 'multiple-process application' means.
[16:37:28] <zinox> ROFL
[16:38:03] <Aerdan> and if you think I'm being rude, you may want to consider that I've had to explain why Chrome seems to use more RAM than every other browser a lot more than I'd like to.
[16:38:11] <zinox> man, don't care how google chrome works
[16:38:22] <zinox> the problem is >> very high memory consume
[16:38:36] <Aerdan> I'm sorry to hear that because it's entirely relevant to why Chrome seems to use so much RAM. :)
[16:40:04] <zinox> is comforting to blame the model development
[16:40:04] <zinox> where you got advantages and disadvantages
[16:40:37] <Aerdan> It's an issue that arises because of how Chrome was designed; each tab is a process, as well as Chrome itself. As a result, each tab (and Chrome itself) carries a certain amount of RAM that only it can access. This is important because it allows for a tab to crash without crashing the entire browser.
[16:41:18] <Aerdan> If your instance of Chrome is using more RAM than the rest of your OS, you need to cut down on the number of tabs you have open. :)
[16:41:32] <zinox> my question is.. google chrome developers are working to optimize memory usage?
[16:42:11] <Aerdan> Sure. Otherwise Chrome would *leak* as well as use a fair amount of RAM.
[16:42:33] <Aerdan> ((See e.g. Firefox, which doesn't have much isolation between tabs.))
[16:43:05] <zinox> firefox does not have leak memory anymore
[16:43:25] <Aerdan> Bullshit. :)
[16:43:33] <zinox> not bulshit
[16:43:59] <Aerdan> I'd like independent verification of that claim; Firefox devs are not necessarily the best sources for this sort of thing.
[16:44:34] <zinox> i am not comparing browsers, i am just wanna know if google developers care about memory optimize for google chrome
[16:48:17] <Aerdan> If they hadn't, Chrome'd be using a lot more RAM.
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[16:57:40] <zinox> are you a google chrome fanboy?? can you at least understand that memory usage on google chrome is a real problem?
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[17:24:20] <Aerdan> zinox: No, it's not a 'real problem'. I know exactly how worthless RAM guesstimates are on modern operating systems, which apparently you do not.
[17:27:59] <zinox> ubuntu takes 180 MB of ram and google chrome take it only with three tabs opened with any javascript websites sites
[17:29:22] <Aerdan> Are you looking only at resident memory or are you including shared memory in this?
[17:30:06] <nick125> All of the browsers have an issue of using massive amounts of RAM. But I presume that you haven't used a recent version of Firefox for an extended period of time...
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[17:32:29] <nick125> Firefox quite easily consumes more memory than Chrome. At least in my uber-unscientific tests.
[17:32:45] <zinox> in mid-2000 the browsers Mozilla and Netscape used to consume less than 20 mb of memory today people find it normal to spend 20MB on a browser simply extension.
[17:32:58] <zinox> nick125, no way
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[17:33:25] <nick125> I guess you've never seen Firefox consume 700MB of memory with 15-20 tabs open..
[17:33:29] <Aerdan> Really, though, RAM consumption is a very hard thing to quantify these days. Applications like browsers have to perform RAM operations similarly to operating systems because they do quite a lot of stuff.
[17:33:41] <Aerdan> I've seen it do that with under 10 tabs...
[17:34:06] <nick125> And let's not get started on when Flash joins the party
[17:34:38] <Aerdan> And let's also not get started on the RAM usage after several days of continuous operation, either.
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[17:34:52] <Aerdan> ((that's how I got 700MB with under 10 tabs.))
[17:34:57] <nick125> Aerdan: I left a Firefox session with a few Flash tabs open for a month once.
[17:35:01] <zinox> nick125, what version?
[17:35:32] <zinox> because here 20 tabs on firefox never take more than 150mb
[17:35:43] <nick125> zinox: The last time I checked, I was comparing Firefox 3.5-ish to whatever was the latest version of Chrome a few months back.
[17:36:09] <zinox> 3.5 sucks
[17:36:16] <zinox> did you try 3.6?
[17:37:03] <nick125> I will admit that I haven't tried 3.6 on my box yet. Nothing in the Ubuntu repos for 3.6 yet.
[17:37:46] <zinox> nick125, just search for any ppa
[17:38:47] <Aerdan> zinox: y'know, every major release they announce they've finally fixed all those memoery leaks people have been reporting. every release, they're consistently proved wrong.
[17:39:10] <Aerdan> zinox: why do you still believe Firefox is worth anything at all?
[17:39:22] <zinox> google chrome performance is much more better that firefox it's real
[17:39:29] <zinox> the only problem for me is memory usage
[17:39:40] <nick125> Browsers these days do so much in-memory caching, etc, that it's not surprising that they use huge amounts of RAM.
[17:43:19] <zinox> nick125, I am surprised people think  normal a browser take much more memory than any SO
[17:43:41] <Aerdan> Well, of course they do. Browsers are much more than just shared libraries.
[17:44:02] <nick125> zinox: There's always links!
[17:44:15] <nick125> (or rather, links2)
[17:44:31] <Aerdan> Or elinks!
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[17:57:32] <zinox> nick125, memory ram is very fast.. so,  data compression will be best way to optimize memory usage
[18:00:01] <Aerdan> zinox: Please, do us all a favour and lay off the Clueless-Aid.
[18:00:49] <zinox> Aerdan, /ignore
[18:01:15] <Aerdan> zinox: You'd have to be far more clueless.
[18:04:23] <zinox> i do not need talk with google chrome fanboy.. /ignore ;x
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[19:25:11] <Kuzuan> Hey guys.  I have Chrome 5.0.342.2 (dev).  I've been googling, but I am unable to figure out how to go back to the most stable release.  Is this release "Beta" or is there a more stable version?
[19:37:49] <Kuzuan> Nevermind.  "revert" finally got me the right help page
[19:38:23] <Kuzuan> BTW, does anyone know what the warning "This extension will have access to your private data on all websites" actually means?
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[19:38:57] <Kuzuan> Does it mean that the extension can read all my passwords and history and the slightest bug or malicious intent can get all that data into an individual's hands?
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[20:22:39] <Wunderkind> hey all
[20:26:28] <Wunderkind> ???????????
[20:26:32] <Wunderkind> support??
[20:26:45] <Tucos> dude, relax
[20:26:58] <Wunderkind> relax?
[20:26:58] <Tucos> as the topic states: it can be quiet in here
[20:27:02] <Wunderkind> no shit
[20:27:46] <Tucos> (and no, i dont know why your youtube is borked)
[20:28:51] <Wunderkind> :(
[20:28:58] <Wunderkind> it's not just youtube now
[20:29:07] <Wunderkind> i've got problems with last.fm
[20:29:12] <Wunderkind> can't view the page
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[20:36:36] <Wunderkind> thanks for your help guys
[20:36:39] <Wunderkind> appreciated
[20:36:41] <Wunderkind> ....
[20:37:59] <Tucos> patience is a virtue
[20:38:09] <Tucos> and by acting like that you won't be helped any sooner
[20:39:40] <Wunderkind> i asked politely before and got nowhere
[20:39:47] <Wunderkind> and that patience is a virtue is bs
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[22:30:00] <duryodhan> hi - chromium insists on making sounds when I click on buttons. Do I know how to disable that ?
[22:30:03] <duryodhan> *you
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