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[02:18:54] <CSMan> uh... is there a way to fix a corrupted torrent?
[02:20:30] <uau> badly defined question
[02:21:05] <CSMan> ok. I have this torrent that it's at 70%, I moved the file from the incomplete folder while the torrent was downloading
[02:21:30] <CSMan> now when I try to resume downloading it gives me an exception after a certain amount of time
[02:21:49] <CSMan> [20:20:02] Torrent got exception: <type 'exceptions.KeyError'>
[02:22:13] <uau> that looks like a bug in the client you're using
[02:22:15] <uau> which client is that?
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[02:23:35] <CSMan> bittorrent-curses
[02:24:46] <uau> some version of the python client from bittorrent.com?
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[03:00:05] <CSMan> uau: yes
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[10:17:39] <init0> moin
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[14:30:45] <CyHawk> hi! i will have to distribute a larger file, and i thought of doing it via torrent. i guess i will have to set up a tracker for that, but i can not find any good pointers on the subject, can you help?
[14:31:03] <CyHawk> the tracker would have to run on a fedora linux box
[14:31:21] <TheSHAD0W> How many people do you think it'll have to serve at the same time?
[14:31:24] <CyHawk> and i will only need it this once, so easy of setup is the primary concern :)
[14:32:01] <CyHawk> well, there will be a programming contest, and the input files have gotten a bit large -- totalling around 20MB
[14:32:09] <CyHawk> there will be around 200 contestants i think
[14:32:24] <TheSHAD0W> Use a script tracker.  That'd be the easiest.
[14:32:32] <CyHawk> we will distribute the files as passworded zip files a starting a few hours before the contest
[14:32:33] <TheSHAD0W> All you need is apache/php/sql.
[14:32:41] <CyHawk> great, how do i do that :)
[14:33:18] <The_8472> CyHawk, you could use a public tracker too
[14:33:22] * TheSHAD0W pokes DeHackEd
[14:33:38] <The_8472> since the content is encrypted anyway
[14:33:47] <CyHawk> The_8472: i was thinking about that, but could not find one that looked good
[14:33:52] <TheSHAD0W> The_8472: I don't recommend people use public trackers for legitimate purposes unless there's no choice.
[14:33:58] <CyHawk> i do not want to upload it to some pirate site :)
[14:34:01] <TheSHAD0W> Too likely for the tracker to be down or overloaded, etc.
[14:34:19] <The_8472> http://denis.stalker.h3q.com:6969/announce
[14:34:36] <The_8472> TheSHAD0W, that's why we have DHT/PEX
[14:34:55] <kjetilho> how about Amazon's tracker?
[14:34:58] <The_8472> and personal trackers can be down too
[14:35:05] <CyHawk> hm, well i guess i could upload it to several trackers
[14:35:22] <The_8472> upload? i meant public trackers that don't need uploading
[14:35:24] <CyHawk> and i can host the torrent file myself, so it will not appear that unprofessional
[14:35:50] <CyHawk> uh, okay, i know, i just confused myself :)
[14:35:51] <The_8472> you just can use their announce URL, no strings attached
[14:36:07] <CyHawk> well, i have never created a torrent before
[14:36:26] <CyHawk> do you know any web page describing this process in some detail?
[14:36:29] <The_8472> some trackers require you to upload the .torrent on their site before they track it, others don't
[14:36:38] <The_8472> *scratching head* no, never needed one
[14:36:52] <TheSHAD0W> Actually...
[14:37:04] <CyHawk> :) well okay, what do you use to create a torrent file? how do you register it with a tracker?
[14:37:14] <CyHawk> i don't know how announce url's work unfortunately
[14:37:22] <The_8472> i use the new torrent wizard in azureus
[14:37:32] <TheSHAD0W> The 50K BT FAQ is gone.  Oh well.
[14:37:36] <CyHawk> oh, thanks, i'll give it a try
[14:37:45] <kjetilho> hmm, Amazon's tracker isn't free.  but they include seeding
[14:37:52] <kjetilho> http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html?node=164272
[14:37:55] <The_8472> most clients have can create torrents
[14:38:22] <The_8472> you just have to specify the announce URL(s) during the process, and then it depends on the tracker's policy if you have to upload the .torrent to their site or not
[14:39:24] <CyHawk> great, i did not know it was so simple :) thanks, i'll try creating a torrent then
[14:41:36] <TheSHAD0W> http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20080220
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[21:14:32] <CarlFK> 3 day 4 room programmers conference. at the end of each day there will be 800gig of video data collected
[21:15:21] <CarlFK> there will be a room where people can hook up there laptops to a wired connection
[21:16:17] <cyb2063> CarlFK: are you sure, you are in the correct channel?
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[21:16:29] <CarlFK> bt would reduce server traffic, but...
[21:16:33] <CarlFK> yes. :)
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[21:17:05] <CarlFK> will the network congestion be a bottleneck anyway?
[21:18:22] <The_8472> if the network is switched and the backplanes can handle the bandwidth then you should be able to distribute faster than a single server could
[21:18:26] <The_8472> theoretically
[21:21:06] <CarlFK> assuming 50 laptops get hooked up at any one time, one big 64 port, or a bunch of 10s ?
[21:21:32] <The_8472> yes
[21:21:36] <CarlFK> heh
[21:22:01] <The_8472> and assuming that they're downloading the same stuff
[21:22:28] <The_8472> if everyone downloads something different it obviously will have to come from the server again
[21:23:01] <CarlFK> there will be 20 talks.  each person will have seen 5, and may not be interested in all 15 that they missed
[21:23:18] <CarlFK> but I think there will be considerable overlap
[21:24:02] <CarlFK> http://us.pycon.org/2008/conference/schedule/
[21:24:26] <CarlFK> I wonder what client I should recommend :)
[21:24:43] <kjetilho> CarlFK: not much choice anymore, is there? :)
[21:25:28] <CarlFK> bittornado, becasue I can't find original
[21:25:51] <kjetilho> right
[21:27:02] <CarlFK> too bad the tracker doesn't have a cool stats page thing
[21:27:40] <The_8472> define "cool stats page thing"
[21:28:02] <The_8472> if you just need the seeds/peers/downloaded numbers then most trackers with web frontend will do
[21:29:42] <CarlFK> i guess the seeder client stats are good
[21:30:56] <CarlFK> bit tornado tracker doesn't have a web thing, right?
[21:33:01] <The_8472> don't know
[21:40:11] <uau> it does have a simple status page
[21:41:11] <CarlFK> huh - I need to look into that
[21:41:12] <CarlFK> thanks
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[21:58:06] <CarlFK> h = open(file, 'rb') ...  x = h.read(min(piece_length, size - p))
[21:58:36] <CarlFK> I an going to make it write the data back out to a different file
[21:59:07] <CarlFK> to move the data from external usb to internal sata drive
[21:59:36] <CarlFK> should I bother submitting a patch?
[21:59:59] <CarlFK> or is this too ..  bloat
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