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[00:55:18] <TheSHAD0W>  http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/30/2053230
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[05:53:27] <Toast_Guy> hey all
[05:53:32] <Toast_Guy> anyone awake?
[05:53:38] <thewird> no
[05:53:41] <Toast_Guy> lol
[05:53:44] <Toast_Guy> What is a Tracker?
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[05:53:50] <Toast_Guy> and how to I add a tracker?
[05:54:27] <thewird> tracker keeps track of all the peers
[05:54:35] <Toast_Guy> hmmm
[05:54:41] <Toast_Guy> so what do I enter for that?
[05:55:00] <thewird> find a .torrent for what you want to download
[05:55:12] <Toast_Guy> um
[05:55:16] <Toast_Guy> I want to create one
[05:55:35] <Toast_Guy> so find a torrent I want to list to?
[05:55:53] <thewird> you want to create a tracker?
[05:55:57] <Toast_Guy> no
[05:56:02] <Toast_Guy> I want to add a tracker
[05:56:08] <thewird> add it to what?
[05:56:22] <Toast_Guy> when creating a new Torrent...
[05:56:53] <thewird> you need to find a public tracker then
[05:56:56] <thewird> that you can use
[05:57:07] <thewird> or find a tracker that will let you use it to host torrents
[05:57:40] <Toast_Guy> Here's the basic run down of fields I have to enter:  SELECT SOURCE (the file), TRACKER PROPERTIES (under that it says Trackers, Comment, Piece Size), then OTHER (public or private).
[05:57:57] <thewird> yes exactly what i said
[05:58:01] <Toast_Guy> ok
[05:58:05] <Toast_Guy> so leave it blank?
[05:58:12] <Toast_Guy> Just select Public
[05:58:14] <Toast_Guy> and away I go?
[05:58:18] <thewird> no otherwise the torrent is useless
[05:58:29] <Toast_Guy> mmm.
[05:58:37] <Toast_Guy> oh
[05:58:56] <Toast_Guy> So how do I find a public tracker?
[06:01:13] <thewird> http://tinyurl.com/37t72r
[06:02:51] <Toast_Guy> lol
[06:02:55] <Toast_Guy> I tried looking
[06:02:57] <thewird> :)
[06:03:02] <Toast_Guy> hahaha
[06:03:03] <Toast_Guy> funny
[06:04:11] <thewird> thepiratebay lets you host torrents
[06:04:25] <Toast_Guy> ah... okay
[06:04:30] <Toast_Guy> and there is mini nova
[06:04:44] <thewird> dont know if they have a tracker you can use
[06:04:58] <thewird> looks like they do
[06:05:01] <thewird> http://www.mininova.org/upload
[06:05:08] <thewird> its right there on the page
[06:05:09] <thewird> LMAO
[06:05:18] <Toast_Guy> haha
[06:05:35] <thewird> see you could have found your answer if you looked a little deeper
[06:05:35] <thewird> ;)
[06:05:36] <Toast_Guy> Okay, now it seems like a stupid question in hind site
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[06:06:12] <Toast_Guy> lol... you know i just wanted to give some life to this room
[06:06:44] <thewird> this room can't have life
[06:06:47] <thewird> its full of coders
[06:06:55] <Toast_Guy> hahaha
[06:06:59] <Toast_Guy> I didn
[06:07:04] <Toast_Guy> I didn't realize
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[06:07:18] <Toast_Guy> Ya, I get that same kind of attitude in the php room
[06:07:27] <thewird> :)
[06:08:06] <thewird> if you want a really neat URL i can give you one
[06:08:26] <Toast_Guy> haha
[06:08:31] <Toast_Guy> I like your google one
[06:08:33] <thewird> http://dattebayo.on.nimp.org/?u=timecop
[06:08:34] <Toast_Guy> Sure
[06:08:39] <thewird> give that to your ex friends
[06:09:23] <Toast_Guy> lol
[06:09:32] <Toast_Guy> you sick Fuck
[06:09:33] <Toast_Guy> lol
[06:09:46] <Toast_Guy> now i just got 15 viruses
[06:09:54] <thewird> naw
[06:09:58] <Toast_Guy> hahaha
[06:10:01] <thewird> its clean
[06:10:02] <thewird> just annoying
[06:10:16] <Toast_Guy> does it ever stop?
[06:10:19] <thewird> nope
[06:10:22] <Toast_Guy> lol
[06:10:23] <thewird> you have to kill your browser
[06:10:24] <Toast_Guy> hahaha
[06:10:43] <Toast_Guy> done
[06:10:44] <Toast_Guy> :P
[06:10:49] <Toast_Guy> on that note
[06:10:52] <Toast_Guy> I'm outt'a here
[06:10:55] <Toast_Guy> thanks for the help
[06:11:02] <Toast_Guy> minus the url
[06:11:04] <Toast_Guy> lol
[06:11:05] <thewird> np :)
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[06:25:15] <Fenix-Dark> hey
[06:25:22] <Fenix-Dark> anyone use tflux?
[06:27:54] <firefly2442> what about it?
[06:28:05] <Fenix-Dark> curious how long it takes to set it up
[06:28:17] <Fenix-Dark> i plan on installing it in the near future
[06:28:22] <firefly2442> have you ever setup a PHP script?
[06:28:28] <firefly2442> or a MySQL database?
[06:28:42] <Fenix-Dark> nope
[06:29:07] <firefly2442> probably not that long
[06:29:12] <firefly2442> just follow the instructions carefully
[06:29:26] <Fenix-Dark> ok, thanks for the suggestion
[06:30:17] <firefly2442> it helps if you have experience installing PHP scripts and such but...
[06:30:29] <firefly2442> eh, I'm sure you can figure it out ;)
[06:30:53] <firefly2442> night all..
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[14:28:10] <TheSHAD0W> http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080131/mideast_internet_outages.html?.v=2
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[16:17:25] <datachild> Can the linux-bittorent client create torrent files from command line?, and if so, without DHT?
[16:25:18] <init0> if you're referring to mainline then yes maketorrent-console.py does create .torrent files on the cmd line. afaik only without dht
[16:36:34] <datachild> ah!
[16:36:41] <datachild> how does that work?
[16:38:10] <init0> maketorrent-console.py|less gives you a help
[16:47:53] <datachild> hmm, one must install bittorrent from source then?, since the debian repo is gui
[16:51:40] <init0> there are two deb packages bittorrent and bittorrent-gui
[16:51:48] <init0> both are ancient
[16:52:09] <datachild> yeah, i saw that
[16:52:21] <init0> v3.4
[16:52:30] <init0> they are at 5.X
[16:52:33] <datachild> so one must do it from source?.. but are those in the /dl/ dir cli?
[16:52:40] <init0> last time i check that is
[16:52:52] <datachild> that is correct, latest deb repo is 3.4
[16:56:38] <datachild> init0, so i must install it from source?, but those downloads listed in /dl/ are those gui or cli?
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[16:59:42] <init0> both
[17:00:43] <datachild> neat
[17:00:50] <datachild> will try it out then, thanks for the help init0
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[18:23:40] <Ryugi> hello
[18:24:04] <Ryugi> is there a bittorrent client that  can run on linux without a gui ?
[18:24:29] <Ryugi> maybe a daemon ?
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[18:42:48] <rcjsuen> Ryugi: i think bittornado
[18:42:53] <rcjsuen> dunno if it can go in daemon mode tho
[18:43:01] <The_8472> rtorrent and azureus too
[18:43:40] <The_8472> rcjsuen, anything with a console mode can run as daemon... just doublefork and detach
[18:44:02] <rcjsuen> true
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[18:52:35] <Ryugi> ok thanks
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[22:04:06] <Toast_Guy> I have some newbie torrent questions.... I seeded a torrent with mininova
[22:04:38] <Toast_Guy> however I tried downloading from a remote connection but it won't start
[22:05:19] <ShadowJK> There needs to be atleast one client running that has the entire file
[22:05:31] <Toast_Guy> I'm thinking because the original computer I'm on... when I started the seed moved to a different location MiniNova and the other trackers got messed up on the original location of the file.
[22:05:35] <ShadowJK> Did you perhaps close your client at home before you went to that remote location to try download?
[22:05:45] <Toast_Guy> yes
[22:05:53] <Toast_Guy> I'm at a coffee shop now
[22:06:10] <Toast_Guy> I thought it would be smart and figure out the location
[22:06:14] <ShadowJK> Well, if nobody else downloaded the torrent (and kept the client open), then there'd be no seeds left now
[22:06:29] <Toast_Guy> okay.,.. so I just got to make a new one...
[22:06:31] <ShadowJK> I don't think mininova provides any seed services?
[22:06:37] <Toast_Guy> um...
[22:06:45] <Toast_Guy> I supposedly uploaded the torrent...
[22:07:03] <ShadowJK> The .torrent file?
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[22:07:06] <Toast_Guy> You're right, I would think they would host the file
[22:07:07] <Toast_Guy> yes
[22:07:28] <Toast_Guy> So I need to re-seed it... and KEEP that location?
[22:07:45] <Toast_Guy> so i basically need to use it like a server?
[22:07:54] <Toast_Guy> seed it from a server...
[22:07:58] <Toast_Guy> ??
[22:08:02] <ShadowJK> basically
[22:08:54] <Toast_Guy> hmmm... so the trackers are only smart enough to figure out when it was first updated?
[22:09:13] <Toast_Guy> or first loaded... and when the file makes it too another computer?
[22:09:35] <Toast_Guy> but not when another computer magically appears with the seed?
[22:10:10] <ShadowJK> That computer would have to download the same .torrent file and have the data you were distributing
[22:10:57] <Toast_Guy> So If I moved the files and torrent to the original machine it would start seeding properly again?
[22:11:14] <ShadowJK> yes
[22:11:15] <Toast_Guy> Or under the same network?
[22:11:22] <ShadowJK> Or any machine
[22:11:25] <The_8472> http://open.tracker.thepiratebay.org/stats?mode=s24s <- hrrm, opentracker has some interesting stats capabilities
[22:11:25] <ShadowJK> with network
[22:12:18] <Toast_Guy> what does 24s mean?
[22:12:26] <Toast_Guy> like how long it would take to download the file?
[22:12:32] <The_8472> he doesn't know cidr ^^
[22:12:37] <Toast_Guy> lol
[22:12:39] <Toast_Guy> I don't
[22:12:58] <The_8472> then this line was not intended for you
[22:13:02] <Toast_Guy> I'm still learning about the fascinating world of torrents
[22:13:04] <Toast_Guy> k
[22:13:18] <ShadowJK> The .torrent file describes the data you are distributing. It also contains a tracker address to which peers will connect. The tracker only keeps track of what peers are involved in distributing or donwloading what torrents, and enables peers to connect to eachother by letting them know of eachother's IP. Just because you create a .torrent and put it on some tracker doesn't mean that any of the data is replicated or transfered anywhere at all
[22:13:41] <ShadowJK> For that you open the torrent on a machine that already has the contents. That machine will then be offering it to other peers
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[22:14:54] <Toast_Guy> when you said "for that you open the torrent on a machine that already has the contents"   are you saying that I'd basically be duplicating a torrent?
[22:15:31] <ShadowJK> You'd "download" it on a machine that already has the data. You'd "save" on top of existing data. The torrent program is clever enough to see that all the data is already there, and wouldn't download, but skip direct to seeding
[22:16:35] <Toast_Guy> Ah... it eventually found it!!!!!
[22:17:00] <Toast_Guy> I guess it took a little while to propagate the system?
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[22:18:16] <Toast_Guy> ShadowJK: ya that makes sense
[22:18:23] <ShadowJK> Well if the machine isn't reachable then it'd take awhile for it to try a connection the other way
[22:18:56] <Toast_Guy> you mean, look for other sources?
[22:19:18] <ShadowJK> yeah
[22:19:51] <Toast_Guy> ShadowJK: so how does MiniNova, PirateBay, and whoever else know that my seed exists on my machine?
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[22:20:03] <ShadowJK> Your machine tells them
[22:20:10] <Toast_Guy> Does the tracker list in the torrent tell them?
[22:20:21] <ShadowJK> yes
[22:20:43] <ShadowJK> That's the tracker's job. It keeps track of computers downloading/seeding a torrent.
[22:21:10] <Toast_Guy> So, I could in theory limit my torrent to JUST piratebay's tracker? or will piratebay start sharing that information with other trackers
[22:21:57] <ShadowJK> I don't think they do
[22:22:22] <Toast_Guy> so whatever happened to demonoid?
[22:22:38] * DeHackEd takes a shot of the Potion of Apathy.
[22:22:48] <ShadowJK> I don't even know what that was
[22:22:51] <ShadowJK> or is
[22:22:57] <The_8472> well, TPB runs opentracker, opentracker supports full scrapes, so one could theoretically find the hash of your torrent, obtain it via DHT and then download, assuming it's not a private torrent
[22:23:07] <The_8472> but they don't share the .torrents
[22:25:00] <roee88> Anyown knows what are µTorrent/30xx peers? (x=digit, and this is the full peer id - the rest is all spaces)
[22:26:17] <uau> you mean there are only 99 possible such ids?
[22:26:29] <uau> 100 i mean
[22:26:48] <roee88> I have only seen 30.., but it is possible that there are more
[22:27:05] <Toast_Guy> ShadowJK: yes... or is what?
[22:27:10] <roee88> actually, I think the IPs of these peers belong to my ISP
[22:27:20] <roee88> and I'm getting good speeds from these peers (only one is enough to reach my max DL)
[22:27:26] <roee88> maybe some kind of a cache? new BitTorrent service?
[22:27:34] <ShadowJK> Toast_Guy, I don't know what it was or what it is
[22:28:01] <Toast_Guy> you said... "i don't even know what that was...." on the next like you write "or is"
[22:29:16] <roee88> Toast_Guy: He says he doesn't know what demonoid is
[22:31:43] <Toast_Guy> ok
[22:31:48] <Toast_Guy> I follow
[22:31:52] <Toast_Guy> I can read :P
[22:32:04] <Toast_Guy> I was just confused on OR IS
[22:33:02] <roee88> sorry, big lags here :) I got your message 1 minute after his.
[22:33:07] <Toast_Guy> lol
[22:33:16] <Toast_Guy> what IRC client are you using?
[22:34:19] <roee88> xscript, don't ask me why :)
[22:35:03] <roee88> I don't like the original mIRC
[22:35:31] <Toast_Guy> i don't blame you
[22:35:34] <Toast_Guy> check out Trillian
[22:35:37] <Toast_Guy> it's free
[22:35:50] <roee88> I will. thanks
[22:35:55] <Toast_Guy> and it works with all your other instant messaging software
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[22:53:11] <Toast_Guy> roee88: basic
[22:53:19] <Toast_Guy> I'm not a registered IRC user
[22:53:27] <roee88> thanks
[22:53:34] <Toast_Guy> you didn't see my PM
[22:53:36] <Toast_Guy> right?
[22:53:41] <roee88> right
[22:53:55] <Toast_Guy> ya
[22:53:58] <Toast_Guy> I bought the PRO
[22:54:02] <Toast_Guy> but you don't need to
[22:54:21] <Toast_Guy> In fact i don't think it's worth it, unless you really need GMAIL ability
[22:54:43] <roee88> no need. great, thanks :-)
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[22:54:50] <Toast_Guy> it doesn't work how they promise it should work
[22:55:04] <Toast_Guy> i mean GTALK
[22:55:09] <Toast_Guy> GTALK works
[22:55:22] <Toast_Guy> Webcam, File Transfers don't work
[22:56:27] <roee88> and no spinning smiles? :P
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[23:51:17] <daMaestro> hmm
[23:51:27] <daMaestro> anyone around with cbtt information?
[23:51:30] <daMaestro> did upstream die?
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[23:52:55] <daMaestro> ok.. so we are looking to put cbtt back into prod.. anyone know what the status of upstream is?
[23:53:16] <daMaestro> or any other peer-able trackers (that arn't php shiet) recommended?
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