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[02:44:44] <Stuee> Hi is anyone around? :-)
[02:44:54] <thewird> no >_>
[02:45:02] <Stuee> haha
[02:45:54] <Stuee> I take it I'm in the wrong place to ask questions then... ?
[02:46:07] <thewird> depends on the question
[02:46:49] <thewird> BitTorrent, client and protocol discussion and support. -- This is not a file distribution channel. Do NOT ask about files you can download, do NOT ask where to find files
[02:46:51] <thewird> ^_^
[02:46:55] <thewird> <_<
[02:47:07] <Stuee> It's a question of why, when there are plenty of leechers for a torrent I'm seeding, my client shows no upload activity at all?
[02:47:44] <thewird> maybe they don't like you
[02:47:53] <thewird> lol
[02:48:06] <Stuee> Yeah thanks ;-)
[02:48:12] <DeHackEd> you're connected to a lot of leechers, right?
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[02:48:20] <DeHackEd> just because they're present doesn't mean you're connected to them
[02:48:25] <Stuee> Well, enough--- some!
[02:48:36] <Stuee> Oh I see.. that's what I'm asking I suppose
[02:48:55] <thewird> could be firewall issue where they can't connect to you as well
[02:49:23] <thewird> i guess the generic term is NAT problem
[02:49:37] <Stuee> I see.  Must investigate.  It makes it hard to maintain a decent ratio if I can't upload what I download huh
[02:49:55] <Stuee> I have a green NAT light in Azureus
[02:50:22] <Stuee> Just looking for ideas really
[02:52:04] <Stuee> DeHackEd can you tell me how I can tell whether I am connected to them?  I thought if it said - 17(53) - I would be connected to 17 out of the 53 leechers online
[02:52:24] <DeHackEd> that's what it should mena
[02:52:26] <DeHackEd> mean
[02:52:37] <Stuee> Hmm...  weird
[02:52:40] <DeHackEd> the 17 is accurate. the 53 is subject to lookup lag, but still...
[02:53:04] <Stuee> Gonna have to buy my ratio again!  Would much rather share properly
[02:54:10] <Stuee> Oh well thanks for your input....  I'll have a poke around..  see ya
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[03:49:05] <DeHackEd> thewird: ping?
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[04:41:17] <thewird> ping?
[04:41:36] <thewird> DeHackEd: ping ?
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[05:44:32] <TheSHAD0W> thewird: poink.
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[06:06:56] <TheSHAD0W> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/29/1614206
[06:07:03] <TheSHAD0W> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/29/1614206
[06:08:57] <TheSHAD0W> http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/29/1614206
[06:09:08] <TheSHAD0W> Er.
[06:09:09] <TheSHAD0W> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/29/1524216
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[08:15:11] <thewird_> TheSHAD0W: doink
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[12:08:36] <DeHackEd> indeed
[12:08:42] <DeHackEd> no time, going to work..
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[16:47:27] <TheSHAD0W> http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080130/digital_bank_robbery.html?.v=2
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[19:48:29] <teclo-> hello, I have a problem:
[19:48:38] <teclo-> Traceback (most recent call last):
[19:48:38] <teclo->   File "/usr/bin/btdownloadcurses", line 222, in ?
[19:48:38] <teclo->     curses.nocbreak()
[19:48:38] <teclo-> _curses.error: nocbreak() returned ERR
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[23:16:08] <TheSHAD0W> Is there anyone here who knows data centers?
[23:16:23] <ShadowJK> what
[23:17:12] <TheSHAD0W> I just bought a building a few weeks ago, originally owned by the county it was in.
[23:17:28] <TheSHAD0W> I've discovered it has a bunch of fiber optic lines running into it.
[23:18:20] <TheSHAD0W> Right now I'm trying to track down where those fibers go.  Some of it probably goes directly to other county buildings, but some may go to one or more telco switches.
[23:18:41] <TheSHAD0W> I'm wondering whether I should get into the data center business.
[23:18:58] <ShadowJK> Was the fibre included in the purchase :-)
[23:19:13] <TheSHAD0W> Not specifically, no...
[23:19:20] <TheSHAD0W> AFAIK It's owned by Qwest.
[23:19:34] <ShadowJK> Or would you have to rent the fibre from the previous owner, on top of paying the only ISP available on the other end of the fibre to take your traffic..
[23:19:50] <TheSHAD0W> I'm guessing the latter.
[23:20:14] <TheSHAD0W> 'Course, if they want too much $, I just won't do anything with it.
[23:20:37] <ShadowJK> qwest is probably pretty insane :-)
[23:20:57] <TheSHAD0W> Dunno.
[23:21:10] <TheSHAD0W> It's in Las Cruces, NM; not exactly a high-tech area.
[23:22:10] <The_8472> well, you still can use it for GBit-bittorrenting :P
[23:22:16] <TheSHAD0W> Yup.
[23:25:40] <ShadowJK> If only you could reach cogent through it :)
[23:25:42] <ShadowJK> they're cheap
[23:25:49] <TheSHAD0W> Might be.
[23:26:12] <TheSHAD0W> I wouldn't be surprised if the county had multi-homed lines for emergency services.
[23:26:35] <TheSHAD0W> There's a couple dozen connections in there.
[23:27:20] <TheSHAD0W> O__O
[23:27:27] <TheSHAD0W> The Fed cut rates again???
[23:27:49] <ShadowJK> Cure the poisoned economy with more poison :)
[23:27:59] <TheSHAD0W> I dunno.
[23:28:00] <ShadowJK> hm
[23:28:08] <TheSHAD0W> They don't publish some of the more important statistics.
[23:28:29] <ShadowJK> Cogent used to be $3000 per month per 100mbit/s for resell purposes
[23:28:34] <ShadowJK> And they used to be the cheapest
[23:28:38] * ShadowJK has no idea about present day
[23:29:01] <TheSHAD0W> That's actually not bad.
[23:31:19] <ShadowJK> Most likely you'd pay through the nose to whoever owns that fibre to actually get anywhere near cogent though :(
[23:31:35] <TheSHAD0W> We'll see.
[23:31:45] <TheSHAD0W> As I said, if it's too much $, I simply won't do it.
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[23:48:38] <TheSHAD0W> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as3AYVzWmOI
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